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I first learned that the bitcoin creator was anonymous in 2017. I immediately spent the next 20 minutes researching.....

1) -- (2 minutes) A simple google search taught me that "Satoshi Nakamoto" is his screen name on bitcoin talk. He simply quit posting after he finished creating bitcoin.


2) -- (10 minutes) I pulled up Bitcoin Talk and realized it is the same formatted message board I used every day for years for music related purposes. These message boards are EXTREMLY addicting. I'm sure he figured he would simply become a player and get rich off of bitcoin -- never to post again or give away his hand. Satoshi is obviously a computer nerd who is far too bright to be the face of this thing. He (or they) masterminded the construct of bitcoin and posts very methodically. He was aware of the possible implications of being "the inventor" and the backlash which he could face in the future. He also kept 1m coins to always have enough control in case it is ever needed. HOWEVER, what he didn't create was a way to be himself and get any credit for this thing. I mean, he worked for a long time on this and its his masterpiece. He needs to have some type of say/control over his baby. It would be impossible to simply walk away. He of course followed the progress and he would not be able to refrain from posting/input. Find a major player who registered right after Satoshis final post.

3) -- (5 minutes) Satoshi has posted on this page on December 13, 2010. Pieter Wuille registered 4 days later on December 17, 2010. And he has been at the forefront of development. Coincidence?

4) --- (3 minutes) Calculating the chances of Pieter Wuille registering only 4 days after satoshis final post, immediately contributing, and remaining at the forefront of bitcoin development ever since. Coupled with the fact that coincidences simply do not exist. I believe that the chances of Wuile NOT being affiliated with the creator, being the creator, or at least knowing who is responsible for the satoshi nakamoto screen name are fairly low.

Have a check to Pieter's tweet together with his replies.


According to him, Satoshi is still active on early 2011 after he became inactive on bitcointalk on december 2010. He even have last message/email to his co-developers.

Your guess might ring a bell, but nah.

Satoshi last post was on the 7th March 2014 on p2pfoundation " I'm not DORIAN NAKAMOTO" after the American software engineer was arrested as Satoshi. Pieter was not the only one who had emails contact with Satoshi.



He became anonymous the moment he introduced bitcoin on cryptographic mailing list on Nov 2008.

Bro your prediction could be god damn right. The days so much similar and the posibility of the coincidence is so hard. Those guys could really know the satoshi so what? How it can affect us and our investments?

I appreciate your hard work in finding news and looking for information to find assumptions like this I really appreciate it
but there are a few things that deviate from what i know because what i know is that Satoshi was last active on bitcointalk it was 2010 not 2011.
other than that back to the statement at the beginning. this is your own prediction, it could be right and it could be wrong apart from that, there is still no clarity and it is still a secret until now

Are you familiar with the concept of open source software? The author makes it free for anyone to modify and release their own versions of it. Or can just pass the role of maintainer to other people, no strings attached. And no single person controls Bitcoin development, all the changes that are made are agreed upon by the community of developers.


This doesn't mean anything. If satoshi had an alt account, he could have registered it at any point in history. You gotta show a lot of strong evidence to claim that someone is satoshi, not some single and meaningless coincidence.


Where did you pull that fact from?

I had found the same mis statement on your analysis. But your work was impressive. Most people like to know, who is satoshi Nakamoto. In my circle, most traders say Elon musk was sathosi. He was hidden himself and used the bitcoin for his project. Then using same bitcoin, he was doing such market speculation. But their is no proof for the same.

I doubt if he knows Satoshi. Sure, knowing Satoshi isn't impossible, nothing really anonym in this world. But all of us realize that the chance is very small as Satoshi really must understand how to contact someone without the possibility to track his identity or even location. I am following too many discussions about Satoshi, unfortunately no one has convincing proof of his real identity.

Considering your data very well might be related, it would be foolish to assume that Satoshi has done ALL the work by himself, maybe 95%, but he still needed help. But I doubt that it’s him.

First, the styles in which they write are different (spaces, quotes, words in a sentence, etc.). Second, the latter (Pieter Wuille) doesn’t seem to hide his identity. If it took you only 20 minutes to find out this info, don't you think the real Satoshi would’ve been more careful about these things?

I still think Satoshi Nakamoto was australian security researcher David Kleiman who unfortunately passed away in 2013 (R.I.P.). There are many published articles and accounts written about the potential for Kleiman being Satoshi. If Satoshi were still alive today. I think he would end up in a cell next to Julian Assange and John McAfee. To deter future developers from walking the path. The only thing that makes sense is, he is no longer in this world.

One excalibur sword left in a stone to verify the identity of Satoshi has been private keys to genesis blocks Satoshi was known to have pre mined. Perhaps someday Satoshi will return to enter the private keys, pull the sword from the stone and crown himself king. But I doubt it. Even if a private key were verified, enough time has elapsed that the keys conceivably could have been broken or recovered from wherever they were stored on hardware.

If you spend enough time trying to solve the mystery of who Satoshi is, I think it pretty clearly comes down to two people whom are the most likely candidates.  Now I want to make it clear that I hope we never find out whom Satoshi is, and the fact that he has stayed anonymous for all these years since the start of bitcoin is the one of the best things that could have every happened to bitcoin.  In fact I would bet my life savings ( which is about 100 bucks or so  :D ) that Satoshi knew he would stay anonymous and leave bitcoin so that there was never a "central head' to the project from the very beginning.  Whom do I think I Satoshi is, IMO the two most likely candidates are easily Nick Szabo and Hal Finney.  Personally I think Nick and Hal were both Satoshi.  I mean take a look at Szabo.. the guy created bitgold, smart contracts, never joined bitcointalk that we know of etc.  Satoshis writing style was analyzed by a firm and they compared it to all of the other most obvious candidates such as Nick, Hal, Klieman and several others and they concluded his style most closely resembled Nick Szabo.  Nick gave an interview a few years back where he was talking about bitcoin and he had a bit of a slip of tongue and stated "when I created bitcoin, I mean created bitgold".. obviously he could have done that by complete accident..but I dunno. My 2 Satoshis.

I might as well bump a good thread about Satoshi here:

[1] I gathered every Satoshi Nakamoto thread. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5271796.0) by @BlackHatCoiner

[2] Who is Satoshi Nakamoto ? Suspects, frauds and conspiracies on bitcointalk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4359615.0) @xtraelv

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We all know our own conclusions or who is Satoshi, but I guess we really can't find out who the legendary man behind the creation.

The time frames in relation to satoshis final post and Wuille registering for bitcoin talk was exactly 4 days. It would be impossible for satoshi to never post on these boards again. The fact that this man is onw of the core developers since day 1 is also extremely coincidental. I do not believe in coincidences -- especially 2 like this combined. Those statistics are astronomical. It is a theory which is of course based on stats and ruling out variables

He most CERTAINLY changed the way he communicated to throw ppl off. And he did a fantastic job.

Nice correlation, but sadly useless.
Unless Pieter Wuille comes out telling "I am Satoshi" and proves it by proving ownership on one of "Satoshi's wallets", all this is just another story.
Do you see that coming after so many years? I don't. So just leave it be.

The same one proposed by Jeff Garzik.
He said he started writing software code for Bitcoin after reading a post on slashdot in July 2010. At the time, Bitcoin had only been around for about a year and a half and satoshi was still active.
Within a short period of time, Garzik became the third largest Bitcoin coder, after satoshi himself and Gavin Andresen, and remained in this position until 2014.
During the initial period, Garzik worked directly with Nakamoto, interacting with him via email and here on Bitcointalk, until Satoshi disappeared in 2011.
His personal theory is that satoshi was Floridian Dave Kleiman. For Garzik he matched his coding style, Kleiman was self-taught and the coder of Bitcoin was someone who was very, very smart, but not a classically trained software engineer.

I gathered every Satoshi Nakamoto thread. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5271796.0). Another topic about Satoshi Nakamoto. ;D

Any attempt to discover who is/ are real Satoshi Nakamoto is waste of time and will end with nothing. Satoshi wanted to be anonymous at beginning and he is a time-traveler to know he will be very famous after a several Bitcoin halvings so he did not leave trace for us to break his anonymity.

I think he realized that it was a really big deal that his family and his name would be at stake and he also did realize that government will probably try and pin him down therefore he just tried to cover it all up, which he already had planned before. So he is most likely a very intelligent person with plans beforehand.

He might just show himself one day and going to make some major changes in the chain. I do think he is there on Bitcointalk for sure but he is hiding lol.


Well even if he did not leave any trace I do feel like he does care about his invention and would come to fix some minor issues.

But we won't find him for sure until and unless he decides he is comfortable with us and there have been attempts in the past, I remember one where they had a countdown lol, it's hilarious, they were probably doing some weird science experiment.

It makes way more sense if satoshi is only one person, I know that for a lot of people it is almost impossible to imagine a single person that is so well versed in so many fields that it can produce something like bitcoin on his own, however if satoshi was in fact a group of people then I'm pretty sure that someone must have told someone already about what they were doing, after all we are talking about something that is going to change the world, could a group of people keep the secret? I simply do not believe it, so the most likely explanation is that satoshi was a single person that created all of this by himself.

Good hypothesis, but from a psychology standpoint each one of us is unique and thus has its own peculiar things. A man with a bright mind that was capable of creating Bitcoin is certainly special like every one of us. :) My point is that not everybody has a need for attention and fame. There are people who just want to do meaningful things and not be the center of attention. Just imagine the amount of publicity and renown he would get if he revealed himself. One needs to think deeply about his lifestyle when making such decisions.

Pieter Wuille may be one of the many candidates for Satoshi Nakamoto but you need to provide more proofs for your hypothesis if you want to prove he is really Satoshi.
You need to compare writing styles and other things, not just 4 days registration difference between Satoshi and Pieter Wuille, that proves nothing.
One thing is sure about Satoshi identity - he is not Craig Wright aka Faketoshi, anyone else is possible candidate including Pieter Wuille.

But it could all just be coincidence, I mean I registered about 4 days after some random user but that doesn't mean that I am them unless I am an alt. But despite all that, I think we can never be sure because the only way for us to confirm our own set of theories is if we were to ask Wulle himself, and it's also another factor, will he lie or tell the truth or evade the question?

I have checked writing styles thoroughly -- they are nothing alike. Same with coding style. And I personally believe that was done 100% intentionally.  This guy(s) far brighter than us, look at all he has accomplished. Anonymity was a breeze. Thats why I assumed it had to be "That itch". He may have planned to never post again, or to "clumsily" stumble upon bitcoin later on "accidentally". however, 4 days was all he could fight the itch

I agree. But also, why would he go through all of this only to tell us? lol

Also, ive asked in the past -- no response.

I absolutely agree. Especially for something like this. He is a visionary -- he knew the implicatons which could accompany it. Stress, lawsuits, headaches, etc....  Look at all the stress the cardano guy has gone through. Now, put that on a 10,000x scale. This guy is FAR too bright to put himself in that position.

I don't like these guessing games anymore since there is not any smoking gun.
there are a number infinite of hypothesis about the real identity but without a clear proof we can see just clown claiming to be satoshi and not else :(

You saying that you checked everything without posting some proof or explanation means nothing.
Maybe you can fake your writing style, that is tedious work and I don't understand why would Satoshi be motivated to do this for so long without ever moving his coins, but changing coding style is very hard or even impossible to accomplish.

Not moving the coins in the satoshi wallet doesnt mean this person/ppl dont own TONS of bitcoin in other wallets.....cmon bro. That wallet is a failsafe

::) Prove something from anything you say and don't just act smart and blab things like a broken machine.

That could change everything definitely but its just a dream that satoshi will gonna come out from being anonymous. Ive been researching some articles and of course some of his previous post here in forum and my theory is he is Nick Szabo. I dunno if it just my gut feeling but who knows lol.

Actually bitcoin inventor been Satoshi Nakamoto did a nice thing by introducing the bitcoin as a digital currency, despite that i could not meet him via Bitcointalk community, i think what he did is perfectly correct by leaving the community after introduction of the forum, because assuming he was still on board different people would have channelling ambiguous questions to him and expect him to return or answer their questions here via the documents and fluctuations of bitcoin.

Does it matter who is Satoshi Nakamoto? For the entire digital currency market, if the emergence of Satoshi Nakamoto cannot give Bitcoin new value power, then, what does it matter who is Satoshi Nakamoto?

To explore who Satoshi Nakamoto is is just to satisfy people's curiosity. We need to look more rationally. We look forward to the appearance of Satoshi Nakamoto in the hope that he can once again bring important value to Bitcoin. Otherwise, whether he appears as an individual or as a team, there will be no value. .

More important than a person is, what value does this person produce?

Thank him silently for creating this miracle.

Satoshi may have used another account to stay hidden, we don't know that much and all we have are mere speculations, and I honestly think that it'd be better if Satoshi would remain hidden, let's all accept the fact that it's a bad idea if the creator of Bitcoin gets to be discovered, even if years go by, I really think that Satoshi is going to stay anonymous. 

This your research is great, everybody has a different opinion to when he last posted but I know Satoshi Nakamoto knows himself as well as several others. It might be funny that some people might have guessed right about whom he is but no legal ground.

Sometimes I really do wonder how this can affect us, but I have come to understand whether we know who he is or not, it doesn’t add anything at all. The project  has been growing without him so what’s the need of having me around again? It doesn’t add anything at all.

And if he was around then, and not anonymous as he is, I don’t think it would have ended pretty well for him, because the government would have not treated him in a good way. Just look at how the government treated the person that was suspected to be him, so imagine if it was really him? So, I guess he took the best decision. And the way he developed to not have a central control unit is really the best thing he did for us, if not the government would have ended this earlier, forget the fact that they seem to be liking it now.

While you are correct and people have different motivations we also need to consider that satoshi was afraid to be put into jail, after all do you really think that if we knew who satoshi was that he will still be free and not in jail? Governments would have tried to accuse him of all kind of crimes, satoshi knew this and decided to never reveal his identity, also if we knew who satoshi was governments could have tried to destroy bitcoin by using character assassination techniques and try to discourage people from adopting bitcoin that way.

Why you want sathosi to be jailed.He is the god,who created this new crypto world.Being a bounty hunters,we are very loyal to him and support him at any cost.He may be the hidden king,whose identity was deleted with purpose.Only the co founder or marketing team will know the real sathosi.Sathosi is not a matter and his creation should be appriciated.

You need to read my response once again, maybe this is not your native language but I never said anything about what I wanted but about the potential for satoshi to face consequences for the creation of bitcoin if the world knew of his identity, and if you want an example look at what happened to Liberty Reserve, it was created in 2007 and it was officially disbanded on 2011 but one of the owners kept going until it was seized in 2013 and he was sentenced to 20 years in jail, if satoshi had made his identity public it is safe to assume he could have faced the same fate.

Interestingly, you gave me another thought, that 20 is still not enough to prove this hypothesis to be true. Imagine 20 minutes? whereas many analysts who spent more than 20 minutes to find out who Satoshi was still not convinced of the real truth. Even though it's as far as a strong reference, could it be that one day he really came to the surface or was he already dead?
No one knows, even identity becomes a big question. For that I will not think too far, given my limited analytical skills, so I better save this big question mark for future generations. Just do what I can do for Bitcoin's progress so that it can continue to grow and be continued by the next generation. Isn't that our job today?