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Title: God and sports
Post by: Rruchi man on August 13, 2021, 11:01:50 AM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: KTChampions on August 13, 2021, 11:20:36 AM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?

Lol. God is very concerned about what is happening there (in the picture our planet is photographed from distant space)  :D
https://i.imgur.com/TlbH0t1.jpg

All of these prayers, hugs and other encouragement to each other are common in all team sports. This is important for the emotional state of the team, but it is related to the physiology and social essence of the person and not to the hopes in God.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: madnessteat on August 13, 2021, 11:26:31 AM
~snip~

A believer will unequivocally answer that God exists and helps everyone who leads a right life, prays, praises God and asks him for help no matter what he needs help for - to win a soccer game or to gather a good harvest that would be enough for the farmer to feed his family.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: kotajikikox on August 13, 2021, 11:34:44 AM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?
Actually sometimes it is not about the God or any one that will provide what they are asking but it is the belief that made them things possible .

with their faith they believe that if giving all the best will at least gives more opportunity to win , so basically it is the Positive that attracts another positive. its just that the God of whom they believe is the reason how they can achieve the winning.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: Jating on August 13, 2021, 11:39:17 AM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?

There is no divine intervention in sports, maybe the players and the fans is just looking for something to help them, in this case a prayer, to break them "good luck" and win the game.

However, the outcome is not determine by God or any divine person. And we all know that not just in gambling, but in any other form that we need some certain form of luck, we always pray and hope that it will be a positive outcome or favourable to us.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: macson on August 13, 2021, 11:40:12 AM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?
it is a suggestion that is always done by people who believe in god and football players or other sports of course have a god they believe in.  btw, i believe in god and before doing any activity i always pray, when i finish doing it i'm ready to face my day.  sometimes when placing the lottery i always pray to win, it looks ridiculous but it has become a habit lol.



Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: Mauser on August 13, 2021, 11:44:13 AM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?

If people believe in God, then they also believe that God is everywhere, including sports. It is a very personal question that we can't argue with. The problem is that nobody can proof that God exist, and nobody can proof that God doesn't exist. If it makes the player be more focused and play better being religious than its good.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: acroman08 on August 13, 2021, 12:48:01 PM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?
No, if you ask me, players do this to increase their morale nothing more, nothing less. it's no different from what ritual/superstition (no offense to religious people) other players do before the game starts or during the game. if God doesn't intervene with all the shit that is going on in this world why would he intervene in a soccer match?


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: goaldigger on August 13, 2021, 12:54:15 PM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?
Everyone is praying to win, but still I believe on destiny and if you are destined to win, you’ll win and that’s because of God’s perfect timing, so I believe prayer works. Though we should not fully rely on this, we can ask for God’s guidance but we still need to work on it and prove that we deserve to win, hard work always pays off.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: mu_enrico on August 13, 2021, 01:06:53 PM
I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?
If you assume God (like in the modern religion) exist, then He is all knowing and cares for his beloved creation (human), so yes. But the problem is none of us knows whether or not God exists, or if it exists, what kind of God He is.

Everyone is praying to win, but still I believe on destiny and if you are destined to win, you’ll win and that’s because of God’s perfect timing, so I believe prayer works.
If you were destined to win, why bother praying? It's odd and illogical concept. If you are destined to win the olympics, but you never train, and only eat dirty foods, do you think you can still get the medal?

PS: IMO this thread is more suitable on the politics and society board.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: UmerIdrees on August 13, 2021, 01:17:09 PM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?

God is involved everywhere and everything that happens in the universe is by the will of God (Allah).  Therefore teams join together before the match and pray to the god to help them for the victory in the match. This shows their believe in god.

Also note that only praying to god and not working hard in the match, won't give you success. The secret here is that perform best in the match and leave the results on god.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: alegotardo on August 13, 2021, 01:20:20 PM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?

I don't know if it's really about religion.
I'm sure that there are players who have no belief and yet join with the team to "pray" because they know that this has a very positive impact on the team's self-esteem.
The players' motivation is a fundamental factor for a good performance on the field, so I think it's a "valid", of course.

When you go to place your bets, has there ever been a time when you ask for "spiritual strength" or something like that?
Even though a bet depends only on luck and technical issues, I always believe that something "exceptional" can help.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: ultrloa on August 13, 2021, 01:25:16 PM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?

Somehow players ask guidance towards their actions or decision to be made so provably those players pray before their matches do that just to boost their confidence and skill set since believing on something positive to us can actually lift our spirit. Although god is not directly involved towards sports but since he is our creator then provably the feeling being guided can help the players to perform well on their matches.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: Qunenin on August 13, 2021, 01:37:26 PM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?
Everyone is praying to win, but still I believe on destiny and if you are destined to win, you’ll win and that’s because of God’s perfect timing, so I believe prayer works. Though we should not fully rely on this, we can ask for God’s guidance but we still need to work on it and prove that we deserve to win, hard work always pays off.

First the team and players play on the ground to their full extent in hope to win against the opponent. The prayers to god give them moral support and confidence as they believe that god can change the game in their favor.  
Also in some sports like hockey, its a common practice to gather around in the circle before the start of match and motivate each other.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: bittraffic on August 13, 2021, 01:47:55 PM

Its a ritual they do when something it about to happen. Just like having a dinner, christian family will pray thanking God for the food they are about to eat. In sports, its also practiced by the team. It could mean they are united as a team and even in their beliefs.

Somehow its sort of asking for guidance or blessing from god when done it sports, I can see many boxers do the sign of the cross even Russian  boxers.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: Tessnik on August 13, 2021, 02:00:18 PM
I think we should look away from God in the sport when it involves humans, but I know of the presence of God in everything we do. But to me, in the game of football, God is just an in-spectator.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: robelneo on August 13, 2021, 02:10:49 PM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?

God is everywhere and we should honor God in all the things we are doing, we ask for guidance, safety strength, God should be the center of everything we do so I see nothing wrong on the sports team and competitors praying, you need not baffle and ask about why people are praying,  majority or almost all people are praying even if they are commuting, eating it's something that gives us stregth.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: bitzizzix on August 13, 2021, 02:45:53 PM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?
The question is, when you are traveling or doing other activities, do you pray for your safety first?
soccer is also like that because soccer has a big risk so they pray for safety so that things don't happen that are not desirable and also they can play well and produce good results, especially safety when playing.
and every association or team that will carry out an activity will definitely do this for the sake of safety, and also I often travel with friends using a motorbike and before leaving do the same thing and for safety.

and I think things like that need not confuse you because they have become commonplace and the goal is the same.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: Frengki_cisco on August 13, 2021, 03:15:15 PM
I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?
Do you not believe in god.....

God is in your life - also in the world of sports, if God is not involved in sports games - all the teams playing will freeze....Who do you think decides a person's good and bad luck - himself or God, misleading question.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: nakamura12 on August 13, 2021, 03:59:22 PM
If you don't have a God or your beliefs is different then you have to respect theirs as they believe in their God that it will bring them good luck when they pray before the game starts. I also pray before eating and if you ask me it is the same as praying before you start playing. Those teams are praying and hope God will bring then good luck and far from accidents during the game and that also shows their faith in their God.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: newwest on August 13, 2021, 04:00:08 PM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?

Its the belief and each and everyone have their own method to boost themselves and keep the spirits high. Well there are sayings too that when all come together and send the positive vibes the universe listens more quicker than individual doing it. Now if something has worked for someone they will continue to do it and rest will not.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: Ucy on August 13, 2021, 04:30:49 PM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?


The CREATOR will definitely be involved if the activity is good and beneficial to people. HE cares so much about our wellbeing... It's just that humanity have been so blinded and forgotten how loving HE is.

I believe HE will answer such prayers if there are good reasons to... For example, a humble underdog team playing against a proud, more skilled and godless one. GOD can miraculously intervene in this case to humble the proud team and lift up the humble one


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: BADecker on August 13, 2021, 10:47:25 PM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?


The CREATOR will definitely be involved if the activity is good and beneficial to people. HE cares so much about our wellbeing... It's just that humanity have been so blinded and forgotten how loving HE is.

I believe HE will answer such prayers if there are good reasons to... For example, a humble underdog team playing against a proud, more skilled and godless one. GOD can miraculously intervene in this case to humble the proud team and lift up the humble one

The humble, underdog team should have been out there doing mission work rather than playing in sports.

8)


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: boyptc on August 13, 2021, 11:38:07 PM
It's the same with basketball players. Some in the NBA does that and there's question with it.

Whether you believe in Him or not, it's about the guidance that's being asked and every religion or belief must get respected. We do respect those that don't even believe but mocks our belief.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: Xinarae* on August 14, 2021, 04:07:34 AM
We need to have faith in god for everything not just sports you can pray to him before the game he can save us from all kinds of dangers if he wants. And can land where god sends a lot of the time the game depends on luck so he can win us if he wants it is our duty to honor god, and to follow the path he has shown us so always think positive thinking makes life easier. Life is not complicated doubt and disbelief cause us to forget our responsibilities to each other.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: peter0425 on August 14, 2021, 04:25:57 AM
it is for the guidance and safeties that they are asking , best to have faith than nothing at all.

so Players mostly prays before going to battle .


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: Poker Player on August 14, 2021, 06:02:27 AM
To believe that God is going to help you in sports is to have the same primitive thinking of those tribes that prayed or offered sacrifices for it to rain. God, supposing that something similar exists, does not have any kind of intervention in natural phenomena. He does not influence whether it rains or stops, or the outcome of a sporting event.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: Chato1977 on August 14, 2021, 06:41:59 AM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?
let them do their prayers and stop questioning their Gods , because they dont care about yours also.

In many beliefs is "God can move mountains so yes God is involving Himself for those who believes and follow his footsteps .

To believe that God is going to help you in sports is to have the same primitive thinking of those tribes that prayed or offered sacrifices for it to rain. God, supposing that something similar exists, does not have any kind of intervention in natural phenomena. He does not influence whether it rains or stops, or the outcome of a sporting event.
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To believe that God is going to help you in sports is to have the same primitive thinking of those tribes that prayed or offered sacrifices for it to rain. God, supposing that something similar exists, does not have any kind of intervention in natural phenomena. He does not influence whether it rains or stops, or the outcome of a sporting event.
your belief mate , but opposite in the belief of others in which having their God beside them.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: decodx on August 14, 2021, 06:55:37 AM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?

It does not matter. Prayers are not always meant to seek God’s intervention. A prayer can take many forms, just as there are many states of the soul.



Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: Oshosondy on August 14, 2021, 01:09:29 PM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?
I believe it is not only about winning, what the players will pray more about is for the match to be successful, if they are praying for a match to be successful, I think it is not bad at all. I will consider praying that their team should win will not be useful as both teams prayed, but for the match to be successful, praying about it is not bad if they want. Only the stronger team will have more chances to win the match, though there are few cases which makes matches unpredictable.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: KTChampions on August 14, 2021, 01:10:38 PM
To believe that God is going to help you in sports is to have the same primitive thinking of those tribes that prayed or offered sacrifices for it to rain. God, supposing that something similar exists, does not have any kind of intervention in natural phenomena. He does not influence whether it rains or stops, or the outcome of a sporting event.

The paradox is that all these primitive rituals give their performers confidence. Naturally, belief in everything supernatural is irrational, but in fact, if a person believes that someone or something is helping him, he becomes more self-confident and achieves really better results. Therefore, I would not argue that this behavior is meaningless.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: DeathAngel on August 15, 2021, 01:01:58 PM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?

Whatever helps them play well & keep strong, I don’t judge. Maybe they had a relative die & it’s a way of trying to connect with that loved one. God most likely doesn’t involve himself in sports but there’s no harm in them doing. Life is hard enough, if it gives them belief & maybe an extra 1% on the field then good luck to them.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: cabron on August 15, 2021, 01:12:54 PM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?

Whatever helps them play well & keep strong, I don’t judge. Maybe they had a relative die & it’s a way of trying to connect with that loved one. God most likely doesn’t involve himself in sports but there’s no harm in them doing. Life is hard enough, if it gives them belief & maybe an extra 1% on the field then good luck to them.

Its more of like that only. There is nothing wrong if they pray before doing something like kicking the ball. You might think that it's pointless but it's almost the same as giving high five and tapping each other when they achieve points. But these high fives are just like cheering for each other.

It's just giving respect to what people believe in is going to make you respectable as well. In a company I work for months, the Muslims are getting few more breaks because they normally pray several times a day which they are to face to some direct to kneel and because of this we all get to have a break.



Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: tnyldzerdm60 on August 15, 2021, 02:07:41 PM
Often times i have observed players in a soccer team coming together before the start of a soccer match to "pray" before the kick off of their match against an opponent.

I'm always baffled and i need to ask, do you think God involves himself in things like soccer and other sports?

I think football has nothing to do with God. Football is a team game, if you are compatible and in good condition, you will win, if not, you will lose. it's that simple!


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: mich on August 19, 2021, 10:18:08 AM
I think God is always present for all people including athletes.

If people want to pray it is fine but no player should feel obligated to participate in prayer.

God works in mysterious ways but I don't think prayer will directly affect the game's outcome.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: Chato1977 on August 20, 2021, 12:53:34 AM
I think God is always present for all people including athletes.

If people want to pray it is fine but no player should feel obligated to participate in prayer.

God works in mysterious ways but I don't think prayer will directly affect the game's outcome.
If you truly believe i think this will come your way ,and also you must need practice and dedication because no matter how prayers you do but you don't exceed efforts for that there is no way you can achieve such.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: syedakhlaque on August 20, 2021, 05:16:10 AM
The human existence and his movements are the clear signs & proof of God. The Question is that Whose order is behind the movement, success, defeat, and achievement of humans, and whose order is behind the death and return of humans. Because no one wants to go to die or defeat with his own free will but there is the order of some great force whose order cannot be rejected. Human is not completely authorized in his all matters. He always seeks help and sport. He prays to God in the worries and difficult times. He finds satisfaction in mentioning God. Human existence is meaningless & proofless without God. Man needs the help of God in all kinds of work may be games, jobs, studies, teaching, speech, and research, etc. And it is said," God helps those who help themselves".


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: Renampun on August 20, 2021, 06:03:23 PM
It's the same with basketball players. Some in the NBA does that and there's question with it.

Whether you believe in Him or not, it's about the guidance that's being asked and every religion or belief must get respected. We do respect those that don't even believe but mocks our belief.

it's about trust and when that trust strengthens then power will be created...

not only NBA players, but many soccer players also before the game starts. it is taught in almost all religions to pray before starting anything. I am a Christian and we are taught to always pray even when leaving the house.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: Sayeds56 on August 21, 2021, 02:16:29 AM
The human existence and his movements are the clear signs & proof of God. The Question is that Whose order is behind the movement, success, defeat, and achievement of humans, and whose order is behind the death and return of humans. Because no one wants to go to die or defeat with his own free will but there is the order of some great force whose order cannot be rejected. Human is not completely authorized in his all matters. He always seeks help and sport. He prays to God in the worries and difficult times. He finds satisfaction in mentioning God. Human existence is meaningless & proofless without God. Man needs the help of God in all kinds of work may be games, jobs, studies, teaching, speech, and research, etc. And it is said," God helps those who help themselves".

Its all about faith and trust in God that empowers human to deliver to his best abilities, whether it is sports or any other field of life. Having said that it is also important that we exert our best efforts to get the best results whatever task we do and then seek support of God . God always helps those who help themselves.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: ethereumhunter on August 21, 2021, 03:29:32 AM
They pray to God ask for help to have a good performance during the match to win. I believe God involves in all aspects of our lives, not just in soccer and other sports. So that is normal if you always pray to God before you doing something because you want God to guard you, protect you, and give you the best.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: boyptc on August 21, 2021, 03:47:57 AM
It's the same with basketball players. Some in the NBA does that and there's question with it.

Whether you believe in Him or not, it's about the guidance that's being asked and every religion or belief must get respected. We do respect those that don't even believe but mocks our belief.

it's about trust and when that trust strengthens then power will be created...

not only NBA players, but many soccer players also before the game starts. it is taught in almost all religions to pray before starting anything. I am a Christian and we are taught to always pray even when leaving the house.
Yes.

In almost any sport, we see those athletes that are showing their faith. There's no question with that as we all respect each belief.

It's not really a thing, they're also human beings that has belief and trust to the Creator.


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: Chato1977 on August 21, 2021, 06:24:00 AM
They pray to God ask for help to have a good performance during the match to win. I believe God involves in all aspects of our lives, not just in soccer and other sports. So that is normal if you always pray to God before you doing something because you want God to guard you, protect you, and give you the best.
and also the main reason for praying is their safeties , no injuries will occur and they will all go home safe Win or Lose.

because about the desire to win , it is not God to decide and this is about the team performance and the reaction of the opponent .


Title: Re: God and sports
Post by: LiceNseHit on September 30, 2021, 01:55:44 PM
There are people that very much believe in religion, i myself dont.
ive got a friend that prays everyday and he is not following only one religion , for certain things he is praying to certain gods, for him everything is with a meaning bad or good, even if you fell down and bruise your arm ... for him that means something and he will try to find the meaning of the situation until he finds it