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Title: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: Philipma1957cellphone on August 15, 2021, 04:40:37 PM
So to proudhon a new homage.

30k thread proved by math and science to be wrong
35k thread proved by math and science  to be wrong
40k thread proved by math and science to be wrong.

In fact both 40k threads are wrong. He did one back in may I did one in late july

So let's see if 45k ends up true. Or wrong.

I HAVE August 12 with a 44k number.

So Aug 13 is the first day over 45k


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on August 15, 2021, 06:50:49 PM
I see what you’re doing here. Good work philipma, would send you 10 Merit for this but I’m out at the moment ;D
I hope you’re able to do this all the way up to $100,000+ this year. Things are looking good at the moment, maybe we’re at a new floor, consolidating before an explosion to new highs in October or something.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: ccFOUND on August 15, 2021, 07:54:11 PM
We congratulate you on your analysis and we hope to see everything go by the design you have implemented in your mind about BTC's price. The markets are showing every sign of recovery towards the ATH and above and we strongly think that the breakout will make things easier for Bitcoin to break $100k+ based on an image below.

https://i.ibb.co/C9zttzk/IMG-20210816-012120-050.jpg

Src: https://www.twitter.com/WuBlockchain/status/1426438980518567936


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: vapourminer on August 15, 2021, 09:11:59 PM
I see what you’re doing here. Good work philipma, would send you 10 Merit for this but I’m out at the moment ;D


excuses excuses.

as proudhon was wrong, so are you - check your merit balance now hehe

edit phils 40k thread is here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352160


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on August 15, 2021, 09:16:16 PM
I see what you’re doing here. Good work philipma, would send you 10 Merit for this but I’m out at the moment ;D


excuses excuses.

as proudhon was wrong, so are you - check your merit balance now hehe

edit the real thread is here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352160

Thanks brother, will send them to OP now.

Here’s hoping for 50k ASAP :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: sheenshane on August 15, 2021, 11:59:24 PM
I checked all your threads and it's quite interesting to me.

We are waving on bullish ahead and I believed this thread and Bitcoin price should move forward after 10 days or this is so far, 4-5 days will might Bitcoin price move again in a bullish direction.  Though we saw that there's a small correction but in just a matter of time, it will always have resistance.

"Beer" months expecting the price will rise so that holders can buy more beers when cutting their profit. ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: Philipma1957cellphone on August 16, 2021, 01:04:00 PM
I checked all your threads and it's quite interesting to me.

We are waving on bullish ahead and I believed this thread and Bitcoin price should move forward after 10 days or this is so far, 4-5 days will might Bitcoin price move again in a bullish direction.  Though we saw that there's a small correction but in just a matter of time, it will always have resistance.

"Beer" months expecting the price will rise so that holders can buy more beers when cutting their profit. ;)


Yeah we did go over 45k a few days back and are trying g to go past and stay past 48k as I type.

IT WOULD BE NICE TO BLOW OUT 45K AND 50K IN THE NEXT 14 DAYS.🤞

I simply mine on and hope for the best.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: btc_angela on August 17, 2021, 09:23:10 AM
Lets wait for proudhon counter, Lol, but it seems that his intentionally avoided @philipma1957 thread like a plague,  ;D.

We are already in a bullish phase, next will be the $50k target and so on. Those perma-bulls are really going to get REKT in the last quarter. But we can't do anything about it, that's there call but most of the times you really gonna love them. Lol.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: Philipma1957cellphone on August 17, 2021, 06:38:31 PM
Lets wait for proudhon counter, Lol, but it seems that his intentionally avoided @philipma1957 thread like a plague,  ;D.

We are already in a bullish phase, next will be the $50k target and so on. Those perma-bulls are really going to get REKT in the last quarter. But we can't do anything about it, that's there call but most of the times you really gonna love them. Lol.

I mine on and do not worry. I hold some I cash some.

Pretty simple plan for me.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: Zedpastin on August 17, 2021, 06:44:24 PM
Lets wait for proudhon counter, Lol, but it seems that his intentionally avoided @philipma1957 thread like a plague,  ;D.

We are already in a bullish phase, next will be the $50k target and so on. Those perma-bulls are really going to get REKT in the last quarter. But we can't do anything about it, that's there call but most of the times you really gonna love them. Lol.
proudhon only cares about attention he does not gain any attention from a losing battle in some one elses topic. I am sure we will see him continue to ignore this topic and post more of his absurd claims.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: STT on August 17, 2021, 09:30:36 PM
Awesome how people are always so sure, me Im about as sure of direction as a man who just spun 50 times and tries to walk straight.  BTC is so volatile I dont know how people are that sure in short term calls, even if bearish how would we know that it doesnt go higher.   World just isnt that obvious and predictable imo despite it all seeming clear in retrospect.    We seem likely to pullback here but I think its only a small amount in the bigger scheme and I also have to note Im generally too negative amidst a good uptrend and its fair we are very likely in a good uptrend having beaten the prior selling.   I dont get any great negative view at this moment beyond trading ideas.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: hatshepsut93 on August 17, 2021, 09:31:19 PM
BTC just dipped below $45k, so it's time to reset the counter.

IMO believing that Bitcoin will never be above $45k is a very silly, the era of bubbles is not over yet, even if things could be slowing down. And after one or two bubbles $45k would be the bottom or even just forgotten.

It's pointless to listen to permabears, because they always say that Bitcoin will never again reach whatever is the ATH at the moment and that it will only go down.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: proudhon on August 17, 2021, 11:54:48 PM
Lets wait for proudhon counter, Lol, but it seems that his intentionally avoided @philipma1957 thread like a plague,  ;D.

We are already in a bullish phase, next will be the $50k target and so on. Those perma-bulls are really going to get REKT in the last quarter. But we can't do anything about it, that's there call but most of the times you really gonna love them. Lol.
proudhon only cares about attention he does not gain any attention from a losing battle in some one elses topic. I am sure we will see him continue to ignore this topic and post more of his absurd claims.

https://i2.wp.com/media0.giphy.com/media/5BDllZRyDesFy/giphy.gif



Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: buwaytress on August 18, 2021, 04:42:09 AM
^ First attempt at >45k already invalidated in the last few hours making yer heart flutter hon? 44k as I woke up (really, really early, but well into Asian afternoon) but disappointed in the bears that they're not pushing it more enthusiastically towards 40k right now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: el kaka22 on August 18, 2021, 10:58:19 AM
This is a fun topic, it is definitely good that you took it over, we are going to have many of these, it will not be 50k, it will not be 55, it will not be 60 and all the way up. You know which one I am most excited about? 100K, that is a big milestone, 10k was like that, it took a while for us to get back over 10k after the 2018 bear run, that 10k was so sensitive that we had many many times that we went over it a bit and then crashed, it kept going over it a bit and crashed.

I believe same will happen to 100k as well, which is why I am so excited about the potential of it one day happening. I know it will not be tomorrow, but I know it will not be impossible in the future neither, it is going to be something that will eventually happen one day. Let's hope that it doesn't really take too long, I would love to see that before 2023 hits and that would be a good period.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: Wind_FURY on August 18, 2021, 11:15:11 AM
^ First attempt at >45k already invalidated in the last few hours making yer heart flutter hon? 44k as I woke up (really, really early, but well into Asian afternoon) but disappointed in the bears that they're not pushing it more enthusiastically towards 40k right now.


Bitcoin can crash to $30,000 tomorrow, but zoom out, nothing can challenge the fact that it’s on a very long term trend to $100,000. Then you zoom out BSV and prepare to laugh. Calvin Ayre’s miners are dumping to buy Bitcoin. The Flat-Earthers were scammed. Haha. 8)


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: proudhon on August 18, 2021, 05:12:37 PM
^ First attempt at >45k already invalidated in the last few hours making yer heart flutter hon? 44k as I woke up (really, really early, but well into Asian afternoon) but disappointed in the bears that they're not pushing it more enthusiastically towards 40k right now.


Bitcoin can crash to $30,000 tomorrow, but zoom out, nothing can challenge the fact that it’s on a very long term trend to $100,000. Then you zoom out BSV and prepare to laugh. Calvin Ayre’s miners are dumping to buy Bitcoin. The Flat-Earthers were scammed. Haha. 8)

When I zoom out what I see is a final ATH of ~$64k, and then the classic collapse and dead cat bounces which are going to take us back below $10k which is the proven max price bitcoin can sustain.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: vapourminer on August 18, 2021, 05:44:10 PM
^ First attempt at >45k already invalidated in the last few hours making yer heart flutter hon? 44k as I woke up (really, really early, but well into Asian afternoon) but disappointed in the bears that they're not pushing it more enthusiastically towards 40k right now.


Bitcoin can crash to $30,000 tomorrow, but zoom out, nothing can challenge the fact that it’s on a very long term trend to $100,000. Then you zoom out BSV and prepare to laugh. Calvin Ayre’s miners are dumping to buy Bitcoin. The Flat-Earthers were scammed. Haha. 8)

When I zoom out what I see is a final ATH of ~$64k, and then the classic collapse and dead cat bounces which are going to take us back below $10k which is the proven max price bitcoin can sustain.

so according to that paper "you" and that other guy wrote (which one in the credits was you?) linked in some post or another of yours its value is actually zero, thus 10,000=0 ?

dude/dudette, you need to show your work here for credit.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: proudhon on August 18, 2021, 08:34:56 PM
^ First attempt at >45k already invalidated in the last few hours making yer heart flutter hon? 44k as I woke up (really, really early, but well into Asian afternoon) but disappointed in the bears that they're not pushing it more enthusiastically towards 40k right now.


Bitcoin can crash to $30,000 tomorrow, but zoom out, nothing can challenge the fact that it’s on a very long term trend to $100,000. Then you zoom out BSV and prepare to laugh. Calvin Ayre’s miners are dumping to buy Bitcoin. The Flat-Earthers were scammed. Haha. 8)

When I zoom out what I see is a final ATH of ~$64k, and then the classic collapse and dead cat bounces which are going to take us back below $10k which is the proven max price bitcoin can sustain.

so according to that paper "you" and that other guy wrote (which one in the credits was you?) linked in some post or another of yours its value is actually zero, thus 10,000=0 ?

dude/dudette, you need to show your work here for credit.

What I mean is that it's the proven max price bitcoin can sustain under the most optimistic assumption. The real value is zero, as I have proven.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: Hippocrypto on August 18, 2021, 11:26:12 PM
As per checking on Kucoin, bitcoin doesn't really stayed at $45k and this predictions have been precisely taking over reality. Though there's no concrete and specific target, but it we can't ignore predictions these days because it's closer to reality.
Moreover, after this little dip I'm just hoping that we're going to overcome fears until another ATH will be our next big target. No speculations yet, but the possibility is positively there.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 18, 2021, 11:53:13 PM
Bitcoin can crash to $30,000 tomorrow, but zoom out, nothing can challenge the fact that it’s on a very long term trend to $100,000.
When I zoom out what I see is a final ATH of ~$64k, and then the classic collapse and dead cat bounces which are going to take us back below $10k which is the proven max price bitcoin can sustain.
Since I don't trust technical analysis, I'd have to say that either one of you could be right.  As much as I'd like to agree with Wind_FURY that there's some kind of long-term trend that'll lead bitcoin to $100k, there's just no telling what could happen on the path to that number--if that path exists in the first place and isn't some kind of desert mirage.

What I do think is that bitcoin will reach $50k at least sometime this year.  That long-term trend I'm not so sure about, but there does seem to be a very real short-term one.  Bitcoin is just waffling about, with the market deciding in which direction to send it--and since what I sense in the market is bullishness, I'm anticipating a breakout to the upside.  To $50k and beyond, probably within a month.  I wouldn't swear to it, but I'd probably be willing to wager a little money on it (but that's not an offer, lol).


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: philipma1957 on August 19, 2021, 03:32:18 AM
This is a fun topic, it is definitely good that you took it over, we are going to have many of these, it will not be 50k, it will not be 55, it will not be 60 and all the way up. You know which one I am most excited about? 100K, that is a big milestone, 10k was like that, it took a while for us to get back over 10k after the 2018 bear run, that 10k was so sensitive that we had many many times that we went over it a bit and then crashed, it kept going over it a bit and crashed.

I believe same will happen to 100k as well, which is why I am so excited about the potential of it one day happening. I know it will not be tomorrow, but I know it will not be impossible in the future neither, it is going to be something that will eventually happen one day. Let's hope that it doesn't really take too long, I would love to see that before 2023 hits and that would be a good period.

Well I did not take it over. this is an homage to Proudhon he has been a bear since 2011

 
Yes, I have bought some. Because I believe it will rise much further, even in the short term.

Pffffff, I'm selling and recovering initial investments before the big crash.

this is his first "big crash reference"


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: Poker Player on August 19, 2021, 05:51:09 AM
What I mean is that it's the proven max price bitcoin can sustain under the most optimistic assumption. The real value is zero, as I have proven.

You have not proven anything. The objective value theories, which can also be applied to the stock market, are based on the difference between the real value and the price assigned by the market to the financial asset at that moment. Good analysts who know how to make good appraisals of objective values, give predictions in which the objective value and the market price tend to get closer and closer in the long term.

In your case, it is only moving away.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: Wind_FURY on August 19, 2021, 09:18:35 AM
^ First attempt at >45k already invalidated in the last few hours making yer heart flutter hon? 44k as I woke up (really, really early, but well into Asian afternoon) but disappointed in the bears that they're not pushing it more enthusiastically towards 40k right now.


Bitcoin can crash to $30,000 tomorrow, but zoom out, nothing can challenge the fact that it’s on a very long term trend to $100,000. Then you zoom out BSV and prepare to laugh. Calvin Ayre’s miners are dumping to buy Bitcoin. The Flat-Earthers were scammed. Haha. 8)

When I zoom out what I see is a final ATH of ~$64k, and then the classic collapse and dead cat bounces which are going to take us back below $10k which is the proven max price bitcoin can sustain.


That’s only because you are biased, and you want to see Bitcoin fail. But if you’re honest with yourself, it’s very obvious to everyone’s eyes that Bitcoin is on a trajectory to 6 digits. Why? Because the design decisions made by the Core developers ensures that Bitcoin becomes a multi-generation protocol. Your grandchildren will ask you why you’re not HODLing Bitcoin, and you HODL the keys to a dead shitcoin. “It’s long story”. 8)


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: ivankoh on August 19, 2021, 10:29:43 AM
Based on the chart and performance of bitcoin incremental for 28 days, coming from $29k as of July 20th. And with whatever just happened in the past three days at ranges around 44k-48k  it's not serious enough to fall further.  Again a short trend is present but not a red signal, I think the market base still holds the settlement maximum at $43k and remains optimistic if we can bend to the upside.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: philipma1957 on August 19, 2021, 12:27:04 PM
What I mean is that it's the proven max price bitcoin can sustain under the most optimistic assumption. The real value is zero, as I have proven.

You have not proven anything. The objective value theories, which can also be applied to the stock market, are based on the difference between the real value and the price assigned by the market to the financial asset at that moment. Good analysts who know how to make good appraisals of objective values, give predictions in which the objective value and the market price tend to get closer and closer in the long term.

In your case, it is only moving away.

Actually he is correct that BTC will be zero value some time in the future. Since we humans may last only 1-5 million more years. Once we are gone BTC will be worthless. ;D

So in a way I do agree with the assessment that he has proven scientifically  that BTC will go to zero.

I just don't think it will happen in the next 200 or 300 or even 1000 years. ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: Wind_FURY on August 20, 2021, 11:09:59 AM
What I mean is that it's the proven max price bitcoin can sustain under the most optimistic assumption. The real value is zero, as I have proven.

You have not proven anything. The objective value theories, which can also be applied to the stock market, are based on the difference between the real value and the price assigned by the market to the financial asset at that moment. Good analysts who know how to make good appraisals of objective values, give predictions in which the objective value and the market price tend to get closer and closer in the long term.

In your case, it is only moving away.

Actually he is correct that BTC will be zero value some time in the future. Since we humans may last only 1-5 million more years. Once we are gone BTC will be worthless. ;D

So in a way I do agree with the assessment that he has proven scientifically  that BTC will go to zero.

I just don't think it will happen in the next 200 or 300 or even 1000 years. ;D


BUT you are wrong. Elon Musk have already started to develop the tools to make humanity become space-faring creatures. The descendants of the Bitcoin trillionaires of the 21st Century will protect their wealth, and assure the continuation of the protocol around the new colonies in planets of the solar system. 8)


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: Phil_S on August 20, 2021, 01:03:51 PM
Well I did not take it over. this is an homage to Proudhon he has been a bear since 2011

Leave some material for him, will you?

Let him have the next thread.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: proudhon on August 20, 2021, 01:59:36 PM
Well I did not take it over. this is an homage to Proudhon he has been a bear since 2011

Leave some material for him, will you?

Let him have the next thread.

https://i.imgur.com/uJk01CI.gif


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: Boov on August 20, 2021, 11:15:51 PM
We've already seen bitcoin soars very amazing this week, and the recent price updates intimately showed a wonderful progress. The latest price as per checking today was $49175 while green market indication remains stable since last night. This signs was very exciting to see, and based on my previous experiences on this market, is absolutely moving towards future gains as btc market build strong momentum.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: Wind_FURY on August 21, 2021, 06:22:49 AM
Well I did not take it over. this is an homage to Proudhon he has been a bear since 2011

Leave some material for him, will you?


He has a lot of material left to write on how to prove a fork-of-forked-shitcoin is “the real Bitcoin”, and that Craig Wright is the “real Satoshi”. I would like to see them keep contuning with that narrative. Like Flat-Earthers going around the globe to prove that the Earth is flat.

Quote

Let him have the next thread.


He can have $50,000, $60,000, $70,000, $80,000, $90,000, and $100,000. 8)


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: philipma1957 on August 27, 2021, 11:41:52 AM
So where do we stand?

 on coinbase we were at 44+ on August 19 so we are 7.7 days in on this 45+ level.
At 7 pm EST August 29 we could be 10 days over 45k
Which would kill off this thread.

https://i.imgur.com/cm8G1yk.png


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: dezoel on August 30, 2021, 12:18:06 PM
Every time this and subsequently higher number topics are created, the point is not to actually think that it will not be over a certain price for a certain amount of days, the point is the fact that it will do that, and to show you how great and amazing a bitcoin investment really is, because no matter what the price is, and no matter what the day is, eventually bitcoin breaks it.

We might literally be 10k+ for the whole past year, or we are getting there at least, I do not know when was the last time bitcoin was under 10k, but it is definitely getting there (cmc says 52 week low is 9.9k so nearly there). I just wanted to share this with everyone who is new to the topic and the idea, if they missed on proudhons topics and all. Some people think that phillipmareeeally thinks this, but it is not, even proudhon doesn't, this is basically just a joke.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: zanezane on August 30, 2021, 01:45:38 PM
I like how this thread gets funnier every passing day that bitcoin is staying at 45k, hope that you get to open those other topics which is the same as this OP in the future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: philipma1957 on August 31, 2021, 04:02:55 AM
Unfortunately some mod with zero sense of humor and history deleted my

homage block of threads.

set at

50k
55k
60k
65k
70k
75k
80k
85k
90k
95k
100k

sad so sad.

I will lock this one and not bother with one for 50k.

proudhon wins thanks to the mods.

oh well.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above 45k for ten days in a row ever again.
Post by: Philipma1957cellphone on August 31, 2021, 04:07:07 AM
Done locked.

And no more homages to proudhon. As the mods dont want them.