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Hello,

I am looking for people that are betting using Satellite Feeds and basically bet before the bookie counts the goal. I can bet for you in Local bookmakers that only need 5 seconds to place bet.

We can discuss via Telegram: EMWIN2021


Greetings

Doesn't that counts as cheating, having delays before the goals have been announced? Plus your service is a bit suspicious since you want your deal to be on the Telegram and I don't trust any people that uses Telegram to deal with some transactions.

Yeah but thats why I will bet it offline.

Telegram is the easiest way to discuss things like this. Since you can easily use it on the phone. There is no need for me to scam people.

it's the easiest way to scam people too. I am not saying that you are a scammer or going to scam anyone but trusting someone to bet on my behalf especially when it includes cheating is a no-no. not sure if there is anyone who'd risk their money to you. but hey, it would be their fault if everything went sideways.

I get what you are saying but said person only needs to offer me the streaming services and I place the bets (with my own money) and obviously he will get 50%. Ive already done this multiple times but the old guy is on break for a while.

This is what makes the image of gambling even more unpleasant when many people do fraudulent methods for their own interests. Fooling people out there who have little knowledge of betting and finding you is very dangerous.
hope all can reconsider things like this, don't let your finances have the connectivity of other parties. Gambling with your own will is much better.

I think you must change the name of the thread from satellite betting to cheat betting. That's more appropriate!

Also the method you have mentioned here is not at all easy to execute. Otherwise all wealthy gamblers would have used this method. Since you are using local bookmakers, I am wondering how they are allowing you to place bets with them when you are always winning.

I don't think any bitcointalk member provide satellite feed service here but who knows, you can get lucky as well!

Just explain how you got all this up and running, What's the overall Satellite Feed? Your thread needs to be explained in detail, clearly, easy to understand and of course not to cause accusations of fraud. You start by attracting us more curious where such a method really works for us betting?

Satellite betting? This is the first time that I am hearing about this and I have been gambling for a long time. I guess this is just another alternative for on-court betting which made some punters rich in a short span of time.

Anyway, I don't think you will find anyone in this forum willing to partner with you since this is a risky strategy and anyone who actually uses it would prefer betting on their own.

He might be using multiple accounts, accounts registered in fake names, or registered with purchased KYC details. Who knows.

In theory, that could work. I have heard about fast satellite feeds in the past, but not as fast as to give you a 5 or more seconds advantage over the bookies. Don't forget that it takes at least 6-8 seconds to place a live bet on a European bookie. OP might be using Asian bookies that accept the bets earlier, or it's a really awful site who is not aware of what is going on.

@ElitessMedium
Do you care to share some more info on which satellites and feeds are suitable for your ventures because not all of the are available in all regions of the world and all sizes of antennas?     

what part of the world are you located?

When I first heard of satellite betting I legitimately thought it involved literal satellites somehow and I was like "how tf???".

With how weird things have gotten these days I wouldn't be surprised if it did.

Why would you use satellite if you can just go to the stadium instead? I can't imagine satellite is quicker than your own eyes.

It seems that about six months ago, I already saw here in the BTT gambling section a similar topic about how using the delay in the transmission of information, you can make instant bets and knowing the result in a couple of seconds to win.  
Last time, if I am not mistaken, it was about a variant, betting on table tennis championships and live broadcasting.  
The proposal was to place a bet after the loss of one of the athletes - on this topic, op offered to have time to place a bet immediately after the athlete lost, even before the judge announced the result.
 After a while, the moderators deleted the topic, considering it a fraud.    And they did the right thing.  
What the OP offers here can also be regarded as fraud.

Im from Germany. So I have local shops where I can bet anonymously and with whatever amount I want on multiple machines. It lets me bet live afte 5 seconds and including reaction times etc. we would need atleast a 6-7 delay for it to work.

Is this a serious question?

Not every game has a delay. This way of betting involves probably hours of finding the right games. But people know which leagues/games usually have a delay due to whatever reason.

Do you think the bookies are stupid and haven't anticipated something like that? ;D

They have their agents in the stands keeping an eye on the markets, closing and opening when needed based on what they see at the venues as well. If they aren't at the venue, they outsource this service to third-party companies who do it for them. If a match is played in a location where they can't find someone to monitor it, they will use the fastest TV channel/stream and do it from there. The delay is checked to make sure that live bettors don't have an unfair edge. That's why it takes up to 8 seconds for a live bet to be accepted when you try to place one.

This will only work if you can hire a trusted third party to escrow the funds of the bettor and you use your own money to make a bet. There's no assurance that you will release the funds to the bettor in case the bet won because you are both not binded on written agreement legally so you can easily delete your telegram and disappear when you are satisfied to the money you are holding. This is illegal same as match fixing because you are cheating on the bookies blind spot.

I don't support cheating in any area, so trying to learn of the result a few seconds earlier and use that knowledge for profit doesn't sound good to me. It also doesn't make much sense, based on my experience with live bets. For one, if the game's almost over, the odds will be incredibly low already, so not much risk (and profit) is involved even without the satellite thing. Moreover, as the odds change quickly, it's very likely that it'll take one longer to place the bet and confirm it than the difference might be between the live announcement online and a satellite (that's because you need to confirm that you agree with the new odds, and even if odds haven't changed, it still takes seconds to place and confirm the bet).

I cant think anything by this post except it is a scam attempt either with bookie or the users. First thing or which is clear that it will be cheat with the bookie. But it can be cheat with users too as there is no guaranty you will not scam those who will attend with you. It is not a fact by which media you are using to contact though telegram is considered as most scam media.

As I understand this, there's always the difference for matches and you'll watch them first and bet whoever is leading to those bookies that have it listed.
Isn't this sort of taking advantage of them and as well as what other said as cheating? if they've found you out doing this, you'll unlikely to withdraw your funds and the other speculation of offering this like a scam.

I will rather stay away from such activities as it is cheating and can lead to my account being ban on the gambling site, I think you are in the wrong place as no member of this forum will likely use this service.

I thought I was the only one who has no idea of this satellite feeds. I guess OP is providing courtsiding services, there is delay in actual event and transmission via TV.
It's very risky to do something like that with an anonymous guy who only has an anonymous TG account. It's not a legitimate thing also. So better stay away.

Can you elaborate why there is no need to scam people when your offer alone is very suspicious, we don't know you, you can easily cut yourself off after sending you fund, do you think we are so naive and so ignorant that we can easily fall for this one, are you so rich that you don't need to scam people, even long time members here become scammers, what's your best defense or alibi on why you don't need to scam people because I cannot think of anything.

Damn I cant believe how misinformed some people here are.

First of all I AM NOT OFFERING A SERVICE. I AM ASKING FOR SOMEONE THAT HAS SAID SERVICE.

I am looking for someone that offers these Streams so that I can watch them and bet them in my local bookmakers (OFFLINE WITHOUT ACCOUNT IN REAL LIFE). So I would either pay this Person a monthly subscription or we agree on him telling me whenever a team scores via phone and I quickly place the bet and we split the profit.
Also no my account wont get terminated since I am playing them in person in the shop on a machine.

Yes its cheating the bookie, but why would I care? They literally cheat us too. Ive had multiple accounts being limited because I was a winning player with regular bets.
So please dont cry about cheating when these billion dollar companies cry about winning players being up couple of thousand dollars.

A very cool way of getting people scammed. If it can't be discussed on the forum for transperancy then it's shouldn't be done else where. Telegram is too private for a transaction has this

I wonder if that means you know the last result of the match so you can place a bet for the winner and win the money?
If yes, I can not imagine how much money you will get from that match since you already know the winner.
But I am not sure if someone will share that information with a person they do not know because they can trick you with the wrong information to pick the wrong team.
But whatever it is, in the end, the bookie will know if you cheat them and I do not know if they will not do something or will chase you.

I was wondering what could be the advantage of this satellite bet? low delay means? you can probably exploit live matches? I think there are some delays on some sportsbook to around 3-5 seconds before it was accepted. Then what's the advantage of this satellite betting? I just got curious.

I don't believe that this kind of betting has any advantages, to me all this sounds like a scam. When you watch a game and you see a goal you can "place satellite bet" in that 5 seconds before casinos update scores! It's how I understand this satellite betting is working, but I don't think this works. It's better to bet on sports in the "normal" way... Do your own research, place a bet before the game and hope for the best.

from the word satelite , it can be more advanced that the normal betting system and i think yes op can make exploit but isnt it illegal and risky at the same time because we are entrusting our funds to him and what if he got banned upon betting .  idk if there are still interested to this but you guys can try at your own risk

i think  this was the service of op all about  . he can make those bets possible .

This obviously only works on live games.
The reason why this works is because some bookies (like the ones I have in Germany) are really slow bookies and have huge delays (7-15 sec for some leagues). So the goal happens whilst watching the stream and I instantly place the bet on the machine. For example Over Goals or Next Goal T1/T2. The machine needs 5 seconds to place the bet. That way you basically know a goal happens before the bookmaker.

Once again, in Germany there are local shops that have certain machines where you just put in your money and you can bet on whatever game you want. There is no verificiation needed, no account needed. All you do is just go in and place the money. You then get a ticket which you can hand in at the front desk to collect your winnings.

Its pretty simple.

The reason why some people are willing to cooperate because they live in countries where their bookmakers dont have these high delays. Thats why I am willing to place the bets for them.

Why Telegram?

Its simple and easier to talk on there. Also I am obviously not gonna exchange payment details on a public forum.

if someone know where to rent data feed send me a PM. thanks

Dear ElitessMedium,

About you old Post, i would like change some ideas. (pa,roberto@hotmail.com)

"Hello,

I am looking for people that are betting using Satellite Feeds and basically bet before the bookie counts the goal. I can bet for you in Local bookmakers that only need 5 seconds to place bet.

We can discuss via Telegram: EMWIN2021


Greetings"

Best regards

Hey mate, your activities looks suspicious. How come you could locate the topic and start conversation on it again after two years of inactivity on this particular thread. This is your first comment as a new bie which tells more of your actions. What idea are you trying to change here and clearly inserting your email so that participants would be tempted to send you an email but do not forget this gimmicks are all outdated.

How will you explain this?

^I am reading the first page without knowing that was last 2 years had passed and now, it was pumped by a new account with a very suspicious motive which I think is OP trying to trick us here but if I am mistaken, at least we already know the possibilities.
On this forum we are all aware of the possible scam, so people here won't that easy to scam.

I apologize for bothering you guys. I just wanted to send a PM to the user ElitessMedium, who made the 1st Post, but I can't, because i´m new in forum.

I have nothing to sell, just exchange information.

It's my real email and I'm not suspicious of anything, because I'm not offering any service. I just come here to try enter in contact with this user.

Thank you for attention.

Following up on things that are suspicious and possible to commit fraud is very important to do because indirectly we have notified and prevented any victims of fraud that they will do.
Maybe until now they have not been able to provide clear details about the fraudulent activities that they will carry out, but anticipating and always being vigilant is much better before it actually happens.
By providing feedback here it can also help to remind other users not to be careless and trust them too much.
Even though this is just a suspicion, at least we have tried to provide the best for the users here.

I am pretty sure no one will be interested in the post you made OP because there are many of you who have made similar topics who will look for interested people and then talk to you via telegram.

Good luck to you, and I'm sure you'll be happy with what you've done on this topic. Even I would not have any interest in what you are offering to be honest.

I am a long-time bettor and used a lot of betting sites in the last decade but I don't think this will work. You might find some weird local betting companies that have delayed reactions within their systems but it is pretty sure that they knew it too. So chances are they will review its live bettors right after the match which means withdrawals will be pending for a few minutes as well to those who won in that particular match. The account will face the risk of closure and who knows funds including your capital will be frozen too.

I don't know some people like to cheat. OP is probably ready to scam anybody as well when given the chance.

Why can't you find people offline too? It will be easy to do than coming on this forum to divert people back into your telegram space, this is weird and it's looking like a scammer's way of hunting for prey.

If you can't be transparent about what you want to do on this forum do not bother to bring such idea, if you are starting anything on this forum you must finish it on here too.

There is no packing of members off this forum into your den of hungry lions, it's not going to work and you might be penalized for this.

You should not seek any assistance with any activities that may be illegal or unethical, such as placing bets using inside information obtained through satellite feeds. It is essential to adhere to the laws and regulations in your region and engage in fair and legal betting practices.

I don’t really understand what is even being offered here. Last time I checked, satellite connections have about a 30ms latency while even cable modems has around 20ms of latency.  Seeking out people with a 30ms latency on their connection and offering to make bets faster if they go through you seems like an insane proposal right from the start. I fail to see how this could bring anyone value.

streaming are always delayed. it's useless trying to beat the house in this way.
people are doing this kind of bets only LIVE watching the match.
but even in such case, there is a strong probability that bet cannot be placed and is set as unavailable since the gambling observer will stop immediately the chance for a bet.

Where have you seen it was illegal? It would mean that people attending a match from the stands are not allowed to bet on it?  ??? Do you know countries prohibiting that in their laws or at least bookmakers prohibiting that into their ToS?
Bookmakers never take live bets instantly, they usually keep a delay of several seconds and even dozens of seconds sometimes for accepting live bets. So they don't need unfair laws or rules to get "protected" against that.
That's why Paulojavali claims to know some "Local bookmakers" with only 5 seconds delays.

I dont believe you can beat the feed tbh.   This is like the plot to a famous movie The Sting maybe, I suggest you save the money and just enjoy a good film instead.   Its not a bad idea to just watch classic gambling movies for ideas and The Sting had this kind of plot to it of early results but in fact it was just misleading.   Its more fun not getting involved in schemes like this tbh.

Telegram, otherwise known as Telescam, the den of scammers..

Anyways, this looks like a great idea and strategy to beat the casino and win bettings in sports very easily, but I still don't buy it, this is clearly cheating and if casinos find out this is what a user has been doing, they won't hesitate to ban such a user and as well, confiscate what ever amount of money the user has on his or her account.

And again, what exactly would be your sense of honour and dignity, after winning a bet through this means, nothing is more sweeter than a clean win, where your conscience won't be judging you for anything.