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My younger brother also have interest in bitcointalk. Can he creat bitcointalk account in his new mobile. 

N.B. In our house I also have bitcointalk account in my mobile. But we use same wifi. Is there any problem if he creat bitcointalk account in his mobile.

no, no real problem... you're allowed to have as many alt accounts as you want, as long as you don't abuse them.
This is even less of a problem, since it's not an alt account but rather a second account using the same ip.

Just set up an account with your  brother’s email address.

Same IP address, no big deal.

What there's no problem having one? I thought that having an alt is a bad thing and is frowned upon in this forum. Although I don't feel like making one now though, I am already doing great with this account and I have other ways to make money already like staking, NFTs and blockchain games.

You can even have 2 accounts and it's fine. So if it's not even yours, it should not be a problem.
But... if you join the same bounties with both accounts and they're actually yours or you and your brother get to write by mistake from the same account.. then problems may occur because it will be seen as bounty cheating.


I think that my answer clears up this too.

You will probably face that 'evil fee' thing, try creating account and see how it goes.

Creating multiple accounts from a single IP does no increase the amount of evil associated with it, it rather goes up when an account from that IP gets banned.

It shouldn't be probable, except Raihan.arh has had an account banned before or paid for evil fee while registering on the forum, if not, the new user would likely have no problem registering on the forum.

I don't see any problem, OP. Just take note of what NeuroticFish said. In cases that you have an encounter with evil fees like what libert19 mentioned above, go here : Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - email to get whitelisted for free (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5350260.0). It should be unlikely for you, unless a scenario mentioned by Upgrade00 happened.

There are good reasons to have an alt account. You could use one primarily for discussion/s and the other one for business-related stuffs.

Most of the time those alts were associated with plagiarizers that don't understand that once they're banned for good, they are no longer welcome.

I never ever thought of making one too until some time ago when I had to find out why my main got suspended.

You are free to use wifi, although one wifi you use 100 people and so does the cellphone you use and also if you want to create 1-10 accounts on this Bitcointalk.

What I need to say to you is: The rules you need to obey and never break.
Every place of discussion in this forum has rules, before you do something you read first, what not to do and what to do, if you always obey the rules in this forum, be it campaigns, Bitcointalk and many others, you are safe without any problems.

I will give an example of the rules that should not be done and the rules that can be done on the Bitcointalk forum.

1. Topic: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0)
2. Topic: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2021 Q3) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.0)
3. Topic: Signature Campaign Guidelines (read this before starting or joining a campaign) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0)

And many others that you should read and understand.

There is nothing wrong to have alt account, as long as you're not abusing signature campaigns and bounties with multiple accounts or do other harmful activity. Many members, including theymos here have alt accounts for valid reasons. For example they are using alt accounts when they access forum through not safe connection like public Wi-Fi. Or they use alt account for their business here. We can find many reasons.
Though, abusers often using excuses that's their brother's, father's, dog's or other family member account when they get caught abusing campaigns. But I hope that's not case with OP.

The forum itself doesn't prevent using the same wifi even the same device. As long as you do not abuse the forum and trust system then even you can use an alt account. It's not a problem at all. Since your brother is interested in the forum, then we should welcome him. Just explain to him about the forum culture. If your brother abuses the forum system then you might in trouble.

For the record, you may leave neutral feedback on your brother's profile. Although it wouldn't help you both if you abuse the forum and trust system. We know everyone which is good and bad things. So just always try to avoid bad things either you have alts or not. If you make the excuse that we are brothers and that's why we have been using the same address then it will not valid excuse to the community. Don't make such as excuse and don't abuse the forum.

Yes, your "brother" can have an account  :D. Heck, your mother father and dog can even have one. Or even your entire office (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1912475.0). Just don't shitpost from them.

Imagine being a boss and watching your subordinates shitposting on Bitcointalk instead of tending to their jobs because they probably get paid more ;D

....or even the OP's whole community (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg44708467#msg44708467).

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This post (https://archive.is/g0Gid#selection-7991.1-7991.44) describes it pretty much in a single picture. lol. :p

I think we should remain simple & not discourage him and Yes, OP you can have a account for your brother and it will not be a problem for you or anyone in your home.
Lets hope he is asking in good faith and there is no other intention.  :)

It wasn't a real office. They were all his accounts and that was just his excuse to try explain why there was dozens of accounts using the same IP.

Gotcha.

When I was a mod, there was a function to reveal duplicate accounts by IP addresses. Many fail to see that coming.

Only admins have access to that function so a lot of abuse will go unnoticed but sometimes people overstep the line which forces some accounts to be looked into.

As far as I know, there won't be any problem really if he joins the forum, because many a times not only on private but there are people who join with public WiFi so technically they also all have same IP addresses etc. But I think problem might occur if he joins campaigns the same that you join, that might raise some eyebrows because very well, people have been caught using their alts to participate in campaigns to make more money. So that's prohibited. Hope you find an exact answer by someone who knows better :)

IP is not the basis of cheater detective here because there's always an instance that a user will have same  IP when they use free VPN. The common evidence of alt account cheating was same wallet address for different account that participate bounty campaign or sending the funds at the same time to a similar wallet address. The IP doesn't matter because it will not lead to account connection, Besides only moderators has an access to our IP and they are not gonna share this in public for user privacy.

The IP could be the reason why someone's account has evil points, which could require that person to pay an evil fee before being able to use his new account. Theoretically, that can happen to his brother. But those evil points wouldn't have to stem from wrongdoings of OP (Raihan.arh). They could have been the result of someone getting banned in his IP range. Maybe his cousin from next door.   

From me you can as well register him because i have not seen anything bad or strange to enroll people into the platform provided that they don't have bad intentions that will cause harm to another user, secondly someone has made mention of alt account is not bad, really it's not bad but the problem is that don't use it to abuse the system, as old forum user try to guide him to follow the protocols of the community to avoid violating the rules and regulations of the community.

Few years ago someone posted real shitposters, or like they call themselves bounty hunters office. There was group of people with laptops around the able. Shitposting on Bitcointalk probably was their full time job. Unfortunately now I can't find this photo.

If it's the same image I'm thinking of, it was given a little earlier in this topic (click on Isaac's link) :

This is wrong. The amount of accounts created per IP does no matter, it is the amount of accounts banner per IP that raises the units of evil and the amount to be paid to clear them. If the IP is not associated to any units of evil, you can own multiple accounts, but more than 2 accounts is not really necessary and looks a lot like account farming.

It doesn't matter if you have the same isp as long as the account is using with a different user and does not abuse the account to make farming in the bounty and signature campaign welcome to the forum. AFAIK if there's an evil IP when you create an account you just need to pay before removing that restriction you want to create another alternative account you can tag that for a neutral trust and tell that's your alt account. Always follow the rules good luck with your exploring our forum.

You can create 2 accounts on 1 IP with no problem, but if you create more accounts, you may have to pay a small BTC fee to be able to post articles, it is best if there are already many more than 2 accounts / IP, but first you need to read the rules of bitcointailk carefully to learn more and how to create more accounts on 1 IP.

Not really per se: Providing the IP does not have one or more unit of evil, any and all accounts created using that same IP won’t be asked to pay anything at all. When an account that uses that IP (or a neighbouring IP) gets banned, then units of evil are associated to the IP (/s).
Being so, subsequently created accounts on that IP will be asked to pay a fee that will vary depending on the number of Evil units associated to the IP. Nevertheless, providing the IP stays free of Evil units, you can keep on creating accounts on it with no issue whatsoever.
 
Evil units associated to IPs do decay over time, although I’m not aware of the details in terms of the subjacent algorithms used to both to assign and decay the Evil units.

Multiple accounts are not prohibited in bitcointalk so anyone can create as much as account they want as long as they are not violating any rules, the only problem will be evil fee if the IP address used to register early got banned for violating and nobody may not understand or explain how the evil fee works but your brother account is okay to use one you registered without facing any issues.

May I suggest to OP that he lock this thread now that he's gotten the right answer multiple times and keeping it open is only going to invite shitposters trying to get merits and/or increase their post count in Meta?  There was no reason for this thread to be bumped by this post:

It adds nothing to what's already been written here.  Please, OP.  Do the forum a favor and lock threads like this when you've gotten your answer.  Thanks.