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Title: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 21, 2021, 11:12:50 AM I was reading this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352710.msg57743618#msg57743618) and made a post in it recently in which I voiced my suspicion that there might be one or two accounts that might be alts (posting in the same thread and two that were in the same bounty). I took a look into the merit histories of the accounts involved and found several more that I think might be connected based on several factors (including merit being sent between the accounts), but I'm not comfortable making accusations without evidence and I'm requesting one of the statistical wizards here help me out by perhaps creating a merit flow chart or diagram or something for the following accounts. I've listed the names and registration dates.
HaleyOccam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2888165) 11/28/2020 7:26am StanleyBoyle (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2888751) 11/28/2020 1:19am KevinRosa (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2888758) 11/28/2020 1:55am Aliceooo78 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2926255) 12/22/2020 6:44am Alex Peters (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3103350) 12/23/2020 3:29am Luke Jackson (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2928338) 12/23/2020 3:31am Luke Briggs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3165381) 12/23/2020 6:39am Ryder Kudrow (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2928556) 12/23/2020 7:41am Dax Robinson (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2928581) 12/23/2020 7:47am Nora Olin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2976372) 1/9/2020 1:11am Liamttw (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3102750) 1/30/2021 2:45am JillianTaft (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3103292) 1/31/2021 3:02am EvieLannister (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3103294) 1/31/2021 3:13am Jazmin Leslie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3103309) 1/31/2021 3:45am Lily Garver (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3103350) 1/31/2021 5:29am John Jefferson (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3164806) 2/23/2021 7:05am Connor Britton (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3165381) 2/24/2021 7:16am Mikayla Buckley (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3165409) 2/24/2021 7:58am Roy Asher (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3249405) 3/25/2021 2:27am The Ghoul (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3364128) 8/4/2021 7:41am I'd also appreciate the community's opinion on this, good, bad, or indifferent. There's nothing wrong with having alt accounts IMO, but when they start posting in the same threads or abuse bounties like I suspect is being done with at least a couple of accounts that I referenced in the above thread, then it starts to become a problem. In addition, I don't care for account farmers one bit, since that can lead to account and/or merit sales. I fully realize that nothing I've written here thus far proves anything, but I'd like to get some feedback as to whether I'm on the trail of something or not. Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: joker_josue on August 21, 2021, 12:04:48 PM I've been taking a look at the list of users you indicated, and one thing I found interesting is the last activity each of them had.
It's really weird, they all have a very short time each other on the forum. All of them were active, with intervals of 5~10 minutes apart. Is it just coincidence? What is the probability that users of this list will all enter the forum with such short intervals of time? Note the information I collected: https://i.ibb.co/bbS0h59/01.png (https://imgbb.com/) . https://i.ibb.co/kJXZbYj/02.png (https://imgbb.com/) https://i.ibb.co/W3bsj3d/03.png (https://imgbb.com/) . https://i.ibb.co/Rb2RRdX/04.png (https://imgbb.com/) https://i.ibb.co/tbKdPVB/05.png (https://imgbb.com/) . https://i.ibb.co/tMKt6fY/07.png (https://imgbb.com/) https://i.ibb.co/S6njwzB/06.png (https://imgbb.com/) . https://i.ibb.co/P9Ngz4L/08.png (https://imgbb.com/) https://i.ibb.co/3FZTsJY/09.png (https://imgbb.com/) Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: Lucius on August 21, 2021, 01:27:24 PM I can agree with you that we can very likely be talking about an alt farm here. As you noticed in the linked thread, the names are very similar in structure (consisting of two parts), and it is also indicative of the registration time, as well as what @joker_josue noticed about when profiles appear online.
As far as I can see only two accounts have signatures so far, but I haven't checked how many of them are participating in the bounty campaigns. I believe that forum forensics will find some specific links (if any), and if they are really alt accounts, with this number there is always a good chance that they made a mistake. Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 21, 2021, 02:03:43 PM we can very likely be talking about an alt farm here. That's what I'm concerned about, especially since a lot of the accounts are earning merits at a fairly high rate--which most would probably agree is unusual for newbies in general, and very odd that a group of newbies with similar username structure and registration dates would all achieving the same feat.I believe that forum forensics will find some specific links (if any), and if they are really alt accounts, with this number there is always a good chance that they made a mistake. I'm not sure who you mean by "they" in the last line there, but mistakes could be made in any of this analysis, including my own. That's why I don't want to come out and accuse anybody of being an alt of someone else or of being part of an account farm. But my suspicions are roused to an extent that I just couldn't ignore this--but I don't have the cerebral horsepower to create a merit flowchart or something similar like I've seen members like DdmrDdmr, LoyceV, nutildah, and others do.Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: YOSHIE on August 21, 2021, 02:06:16 PM I think it's a new trick done by a group of beginners, they want to collect (merit) first, then play it in the campaign, because some of them have had problems from the start here and I see that there are several Alt accounts that are connected to the accounts above.
Eg: @John Jefferson and @Mikayla Buckley linked. At a glance i see: @John Jefferson (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3164806), using the same Telegram, facebook, twitter as the Alt account below and also the same thing happened to @Mikayla Buckley. Telegram and Facebook are used by: @John Jefferson also used by: @and1514. 1. and1514 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1133138) Proof: Bitcointalk Username: john jefferson https://archive.vn/wip/fBzeSTelegram Username:@AndreyOstrivnoy Facebook Username:Andrey Galushkin ]Facebook Profile Link: https://www.facebook.com/andrey.galushkin.92/ Reporting Week Number 8: 17.05 - 23.05 https://archive.vn/wip/yGcvIBitcointalk Username: and1514 Telegram Username:@AndreyOstrivnoy Facebook Username:Andrey Galushkin Facebook Profile Link: https://www.facebook.com/andrey.galushkin.92/ Second telegram used by:@John Jefferson and @Mikayla Buckley, also used by other Alt accounts below. 2. Mikayla Buckley (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3165409) 3. ss siyam5 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2827015) 4. khoroch pro (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2857157) 5. Ampela (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2535840) 6. Cilukbakekok (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2535828) Proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5336827.msg57042321#msg57042321 Quote Twitter profile link: https://twitter.com/cardibot2 https://archive.vn/wip/RKPMyUsername telegram : @siyam5 Telegram Username: @siyam5 https://archive.vn/wip/WX8P1TRX Wallet Address: TBw1mNBqgbQtExH8vLGpfYoXM1E42mkvBu Bitcointalk user name: ss siyam5 https://archive.vn/wip/FF6wdTwitter profile link: https://twitter.com/cardibot1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5337850.msg57022675#msg57022675 Quote BTT Username: khoroch pro https://archive.vn/wip/pqJc6Telegram Username: @siyam5 Smart Chain (BSC) Wallet Address: 0xfaea7c458B189eEFD2E53810e1a4DeE22004b820 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5301114.msg55860673#msg55860673 Quote Forum Username: Ampela https://archive.vn/wip/78GTiTelegram Username: @siyam5 ERC20 Wallet Address: 0x6d6e13ef1cfc5814f888ed14e96c31ecd880e750 Forum Username: Cilukbakekok https://archive.vn/wip/cjkV4Telegram Username: @Siyam5 ETH Wallet Address: 0x7b88057acbb1cd5b4cc11114425a4cad1d35c186 This is the only evidence for now that I can see. Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: savetheFORUM on August 21, 2021, 05:51:32 PM HaleyOccam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2888165) 11/28/2020 7:26am StanleyBoyle (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2888751) 11/28/2020 1:19am KevinRosa (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2888758) 11/28/2020 1:55am Aliceooo78 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2926255) 12/22/2020 6:44am Alex Peters (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3103350) 12/23/2020 3:29am Luke Jackson (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2928338) 12/23/2020 3:31am Luke Briggs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3165381) 12/23/2020 6:39am Ryder Kudrow (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2928556) 12/23/2020 7:41am Dax Robinson (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2928581) 12/23/2020 7:47am Nora Olin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2976372) 1/9/2020 1:11am Liamttw (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3102750) 1/30/2021 2:45am JillianTaft (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3103292) 1/31/2021 3:02am EvieLannister (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3103294) 1/31/2021 3:13am Jazmin Leslie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3103309) 1/31/2021 3:45am Lily Garver (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3103350) 1/31/2021 5:29am John Jefferson (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3164806) 2/23/2021 7:05am Connor Britton (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3165381) 2/24/2021 7:16am Mikayla Buckley (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3165409) 2/24/2021 7:58am Roy Asher (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3249405) 3/25/2021 2:27am The Ghoul (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3364128) 8/4/2021 7:41am Not very good at researching either but those usernames look like some quick names created by random name generator or something. Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: Timelord2067 on August 22, 2021, 01:07:56 AM I would say three are farmed:
Luke Jackson (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=2928338) https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/15/blob8b98837d919aadf7.jpeg Ryder Kudrow (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=2928556) https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/15/blob4cfc9ab35f6e7e92.jpeg Dax Robinson (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=2928581) https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/15/blob710a3251836549c2.jpeg All three woke up on the same day and previously, all three became inactive within a ~36 hour period. Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: Jawhead999 on August 22, 2021, 02:36:07 AM #PROOF OF REGISTRATION Archived (https://web.archive.org/web/20210822013241/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5354912.msg57749687)论坛用户名：StanleyBoyle 论坛个人资料链接：https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2888751;sa=summary 电报用户名:@Carol2000 ERC20 钱包地址： 0x49F2B2DCc5a26a690F57EE273f665E4753b51189 等级：新手 Archived (https://web.archive.org/web/20210822013934/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275032.msg57630271)优点：0 个人资料链接：https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3103350;sa=summary 按照现在市场价格年末能到5万 Archived (https://web.archive.org/web/20210822015150/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5274283.msg56247509%23msg56247509)I don't care what you say, I live in China and I don't envy any other country. Archived (https://web.archive.org/web/20210822020532/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352768.msg57676984%23msg57676984)https://i.loli.net/2021/08/07/x2FvkUhHPIW1E5Y.jpg https://i.loli.net/2021/08/07/ThLwKANbCSio7p3.jpg https://i.loli.net/2021/08/07/hJaEzfNTRbAOqvK.jpg https://i.loli.net/2021/08/07/dSIx6TzDFYEWNCP.jpg https://i.loli.net/2021/08/07/eGAiYOKPzWoHcy7.jpg Archived (https://web.archive.org/web/20210822021423/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile&u=2926255&sa=showPosts&start=0) We can conclude 5 users above are from China because 3 of them using Chinese language, @The Ghoul claim live in China and @Aliceooo78 attach images with Chinese language, the images he used is from China article which is using full Chinese language means he should a Chinese citizen too. It's interesting only @Liamttw post a POA and included on the spreadsheet [1] While @Aliceooo78 and @StanleyBoyle didn't even post a POA but wears the signature [2] does it mean he's wear signature on wrong alts or free advertise? Not all users, but most of users above have similar posting style... he went from off topic section, then jump to Bitcoin or Economy section, often talking about China related thread and using ['list'] option on their post, but yeah I don't have any strong proof to claim all of them are alt. I would like to hear 5 above users opinion about this case. [1] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-G9TKkuKwDijMGlMXIAIaGKmwOyCdFP3xvTXSCOncpQ/edit [2] https://loyce.club/archive/topics/535/5353529.html[/list] Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: YOSHIE on August 22, 2021, 05:12:14 AM ???? For me it doesn't matter which country they come from, the reason is very simple (google can translate all languages including china and hong kong).From a google search the image displayed by @Aliceooo78, you can get it, besides the money he posted is not Chinese money, it's Hong Kong dollars. An example i got on google. https://zizihub.com/305090.jpg https://zizihub.com/1be771.jpg https://zizihub.com/a96e81.jpg https://zizihub.com/542616.jpg https://zizihub.com/107496.jpg I think they are a group of newbies who use a new trick to collect (Merit) between Alts, to reach a certain rank. I often see Alt accounts that post in several locales, different languages, I think the goal is to remove traces in terms of language, but there is one thing they can't hide, (secret). Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: Lucius on August 22, 2021, 10:30:46 AM I'm not sure who you mean by "they" in the last line there, but mistakes could be made in any of this analysis, including my own. I was thinking of the owner of all those accounts, but I expressed myself in the plural - and as you can see the owner of some accounts made an initial mistake and used the same social networks on multiple accounts. Fortunately, the tactics used by those who want to make alt farms can often be easily discovered, but there are probably those who hide it much smarter. I never doubted that after the implementation of merits, those who want an abuse forum will come up with various ideas, but fortunately there are always those who discover such things, sooner or later. Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 22, 2021, 02:36:25 PM Not very good at researching either but those usernames look like some quick names created by random name generator or something. Man, it wouldn't even take that much effort as long as you're familiar with English/American names. I could probably create 100 usernames like those as fast as I could write. By the way, the only reason I included Aliceooo75 and Liamttw is because of merit linkage, not because they have similar usernames. And again, I'm not sure they or any of these members are alts--but I'm pretty sure that some of them are.I think they are a group of newbies who use a new trick to collect (Merit) between Alts, to reach a certain rank. My thought as well, but I'm looking for someone to help link accounts like you did. I think there are more alts in my list than the two you discovered.All three woke up on the same day and previously, all three became inactive within a ~36 hour period. I tend to agree with you on that one, though it isn't definitive proof.As for me, I'm going to withhold merits from all of these members unless or until this issue is solved, because my suspicions are too great for me to be an unwitting participant in any merit-distribution scheme among alt accounts. I've already merited some of them, and now I regret that. Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: PastorNick on August 23, 2021, 07:49:25 AM I think it is not rigorous to judge whether they are the same person's alternative account only by the time of registration.
For example, how can we prove that this person belongs to Satoshi Nakamoto?Only after Satoshi Nakamoto uses his own digital signature verification, we can be sure. However, these accounts registered on the same day can be called "suspect crime suspect" suspect crime suspect A Date Registered:11/28/2020 suspect alt account:HaleyOccam,StanleyBoyle,KevinRosa suspect crime suspect B Date Registered:12/23/2020 suspect alt account:Alex Peters,Luke Jackson,Luke Briggs,Ryder Kudrow,Dax Robinson suspect crime suspect C Date Registered:1/31/2021 suspect alt account:JillianTaf,EvieLannister,Jazmin Leslie,Lily Garver suspect crime suspect D Date Registered:2/24/2021 suspect alt account:John Jefferson,Connor Britton,Mikayla Buckley At the same time, before these suspect crime suspecs do evil, we should not be biased against them because of suspicion, because so far they seem to have not broken the rules of the forum. I counted their participation in bounty and autographs
Except for accounts that clearly use the same Telegram name or address, other accounts do not seem to have "strong connections" Although I call them "suspect crime suspects", we can follow their movements at any time.I think these accounts often post posts, and some of them do not seem to be spam. They do this for only one purpose: to get enough merit and then participate in signature activities or bounty. So we can check their accounts frequently in the future. Once they reveal flaws, we can report them or give them a negative trust value. Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: Timelord2067 on August 23, 2021, 11:26:49 AM I would say three are farmed: Luke Jackson (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=2928338) Ryder Kudrow (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=2928556) Dax Robinson (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=2928581) All three woke up on the same day and previously, all three became inactive within a ~36 hour period. Looking at the UID's that @Ratimov added, we can see the following have shared information between the list @The Pharmacist and @Ratimov provided. Times are GMT +10 - Information gleaned via bpip.org (https://bpip.org/) Tim-BTC - 7/6/2021 12:02:50 PM Profile woke up New post Tim-BTC - 3/9/2021 2:26:04 PM Changed to Archived status Inactive for 90 days defi-Dany - 7/15/2021 9:24:32 AM Profile woke up New post defi-Dany - 3/9/2021 2:26:15 PM Changed to Archived status Inactive for 90 days Kimberl2020 - 7/6/2021 11:34:05 AM woke up Kimberl2020 - 7/6/2021 11:47:14 AM Profile woke up New post Kimberl2020 - 3/9/2021 3:11:19 PM Changed to Archived status Inactive for 90 days Aliceooo78 - 7/16/2021 9:03:45 AM password reset via email Ryder Kudrow - 8/4/2021 9:15:22 AM woke up Ryder Kudrow - 8/4/2021 9:30:58 AM Profile woke up New post Ryder Kudrow - 4/27/2021 2:44:31 PM Changed to Archived status Inactive for 90 days Dax Robinson - 8/4/2021 5:43:51 AM woke up Dax Robinson - 8/4/2021 6:16:49 AM Profile woke up New post Dax Robinson - 4/28/2021 2:51:55 PM Changed to Archived status Inactive for 90 days NathanielParker - 7/20/2021 1:06:13 AM password reset via email Luke Jackson - 8/4/2021 8:59:01 AM woke up Luke Jackson - 8/4/2021 9:35:31 AM Profile woke up New post Luke Jackson - 4/27/2021 9:48:02 AM Changed to Archived status Inactive for 90 days Arranging them into chronological order, we see the pattern of their behavior: Tim-BTC - 3/9/2021 2:26:04 PM Changed to Archived status Inactive for 90 days defi-Dany - 3/9/2021 2:26:15 PM Changed to Archived status Inactive for 90 days Kimberl2020 - 3/9/2021 3:11:19 PM Changed to Archived status Inactive for 90 days Ryder Kudrow - 4/27/2021 2:44:31 PM Changed to Archived status Inactive for 90 days Luke Jackson - 4/27/2021 9:48:02 AM Changed to Archived status Inactive for 90 days Dax Robinson - 4/28/2021 2:51:55 PM Changed to Archived status Inactive for 90 days Kimberl2020 - 7/6/2021 11:34:05 AM woke up Kimberl2020 - 7/6/2021 11:47:14 AM Profile woke up New post Tim-BTC - 7/6/2021 12:02:50 PM Profile woke up New post defi-Dany - 7/15/2021 9:24:32 AM Profile woke up New post Aliceooo78 - 7/16/2021 9:03:45 AM password reset via email NathanielParker - 7/20/2021 1:06:13 AM password reset via email Dax Robinson - 8/4/2021 5:43:51 AM woke up Dax Robinson - 8/4/2021 6:16:49 AM Profile woke up New post Luke Jackson - 8/4/2021 8:59:01 AM woke up Luke Jackson - 8/4/2021 9:35:31 AM Profile woke up New post Ryder Kudrow - 8/4/2021 9:15:22 AM woke up Ryder Kudrow - 8/4/2021 9:30:58 AM Profile woke up New post Conclusion: There are plenty of gaps in our knowledge of this plague if the time indexes are any indication. Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 23, 2021, 03:34:20 PM Thank you to Ratimov and Timelord2067 for that info. I hate to do this, but I'm going to put all of those members on my ignore list for the time being, as I don't want to contribute to any merit abuse that's contributing to a growing account farm. I'm still very interested in hearing opinions and getting more data from other members.
The sad part about all of this is that not all of these accounts are terrible shitposters. If they were, they wouldn't have been able to earn as much merit as they have. They do this for only one purpose: to get enough merit and then participate in signature activities or bounty. No kidding.Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: Kontibruno on August 23, 2021, 09:11:55 PM Thanks, The Pharmacist. Since August 19, I began to conduct an investigation regarding this cheater. All these accounts went through my topic: Kontibruno (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3354640) - Date Registered: July 10, 2021, 09:33:08 AM All of these accounts applied for help in obtaining rank and almost all of them violated the rule of this topic: Attention: - Do not try to apply using your alts.Also, I have not yet had time to compile a merit overflow table. Please note that these accounts very often threw merits to each other in order to quickly get the next rank. There is an obvious MERIT ABUSE. I am truly shocked to find my name listed as one of the accounts that are being used as an Alt act. Apart from being a new person here, I am new in the crypto business as a whole. I just started my crypto journey in May of this year and I joined this forum in July. I do not know a single soul among the people listed in this thread neither do I know the origin of any of the accounts. I am open to answer any questions or provide any information you may need to aid your investigation. Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: Aliceooo78 on August 24, 2021, 01:16:49 AM #PROOF OF REGISTRATION Archived (https://web.archive.org/web/20210822013241/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5354912.msg57749687)论坛用户名：StanleyBoyle 论坛个人资料链接：https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2888751;sa=summary 电报用户名:@Carol2000 ERC20 钱包地址： 0x49F2B2DCc5a26a690F57EE273f665E4753b51189 等级：新手 Archived (https://web.archive.org/web/20210822013934/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275032.msg57630271)优点：0 个人资料链接：https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3103350;sa=summary 按照现在市场价格年末能到5万 Archived (https://web.archive.org/web/20210822015150/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5274283.msg56247509%23msg56247509)I don't care what you say, I live in China and I don't envy any other country. Archived (https://web.archive.org/web/20210822020532/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352768.msg57676984%23msg57676984)https://i.loli.net/2021/08/07/x2FvkUhHPIW1E5Y.jpg https://i.loli.net/2021/08/07/ThLwKANbCSio7p3.jpg https://i.loli.net/2021/08/07/hJaEzfNTRbAOqvK.jpg https://i.loli.net/2021/08/07/dSIx6TzDFYEWNCP.jpg https://i.loli.net/2021/08/07/eGAiYOKPzWoHcy7.jpg Archived (https://web.archive.org/web/20210822021423/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile&u=2926255&sa=showPosts&start=0) We can conclude 5 users above are from China because 3 of them using Chinese language, @The Ghoul claim live in China and @Aliceooo78 attach images with Chinese language, the images he used is from China article which is using full Chinese language means he should a Chinese citizen too. It's interesting only @Liamttw post a POA and included on the spreadsheet [1] While @Aliceooo78 and @StanleyBoyle didn't even post a POA but wears the signature [2] does it mean he's wear signature on wrong alts or free advertise? Not all users, but most of users above have similar posting style... he went from off topic section, then jump to Bitcoin or Economy section, often talking about China related thread and using ['list'] option on their post, but yeah I don't have any strong proof to claim all of them are alt. I would like to hear 5 above users opinion about this case. [1] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-G9TKkuKwDijMGlMXIAIaGKmwOyCdFP3xvTXSCOncpQ/edit [2] https://loyce.club/archive/topics/535/5353529.html[/list] I did change my signature, just to try how to do it. After the operation, I forgot about it. I didn't reply to the post or fill out the application form. It has been deleted now. I master Chinese as a foreign language, and I am familiar with Hong Kong, which is not surprising. China is not a monster. I think that it is not questionable to treat a country or a thing objectively, and we cannot deny the development of China. Bitcoin forums are not only non-discriminatory, but also very inclusive. I used to study in China, and the food and beauty of China are really good. I don't talk about politics, and I don't participate in politics. This is my opinion. Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: Timelord2067 on August 24, 2021, 01:40:23 AM This is the point in the investigation where the various alts start coming out of the woodwork with various nearly plausible reasons why their accounts are similar to others that have been identified.
Compare their grammar when under the microscope to when they were unaware they are being watched and look for subtle differences. Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: HaleyOccam on August 24, 2021, 03:05:41 AM I was surprised. The first name was me. I seemed to be a suspect in the forum. :-\ :-\
I abide by the rules of the forum and did not create spam. I actively learn new knowledge in the forum and actively make a little contribution of my own. I am not an account farmer, and I do not have a replacement number (although this phenomenon is real), and I have not participated in any form of bounty program, at least not yet. Maybe I will participate in some projects that I feel are good. Although I feel a little angry, >:(I don’t want to be rude to people I respect. I will continue to abide by the rules of the forum and do my own thing. What I care about is whether I can get more knowledge points. And give merit to the poster (I don't consider whether it is a newbie). Thank you. Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: The Ghoul on August 24, 2021, 08:31:49 AM ~ First of all thank you sir, you have played a very good guide to my novice career：[GUIDE for NEWBIE] Merit-help from other users, how to use them correctly? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5350002.0)sir, I'm surprised I appeared on your suspicion list. I reviewed all my actions on the forum and did not find any violations of the rules. I have never plagiarized, all posts are through my own thinking. Never beg for merit. Never used an alt account. You can view all my posts one by one, especially those topics. They consume my energy, and I also learned a lot in the process of publishing the topic. I have not posted any spam. I have not participated in any bounty and don’t plan to participate in the future. To be honest, I am not short of money, I have benefited a lot from investing in cryptocurrency. What I care most about is my credibility. I think it’s an insult to me and everyone else on your list. But if many people on this list are innocent, I don't know what other people on your list think. But this list really hurts my self-esteem. You are one of the people who have contributed the most to the forum, and I have always respected you. Thank you for your contribution. @The Ghoul claim live in China. I never thought of concealing it, I don’t have to lie.It is too funny to judge that this is a batch of alt accounts based on nationality alone. There are 1.4 billion people in China, This reminds me of a Foreign friend of mine telling me that his ex-girlfriend is Chinese, and he asked me if I knew her. This was a joke.It’s hard for me to know his ex-girlfriend from 1.4 billion Chinese. ------------------- If you reject me because our login time is in the same time zone and the names are not normal foreign names. This behavior is no different from the American genocide of Indians. If someone on this list uses an alt account to do bounty, it deserves to be banned. But I don’t accept these groundless accusations. Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: joker_josue on August 24, 2021, 11:02:19 AM Another interesting analysis, regarding the merits distributed by these users:
HaleyOccam (https://loyce.club/Merit/history/2888165.html) Out of 16 merits awarded, only 4 were not for users on the list. Aliceooo78 (https://loyce.club/Merit/history/2926255.html) Out of 9 merits awarded, only 3 were not for users on the list. Nora Olin (https://loyce.club/Merit/history/2976372.html) Of the 2 merits given, all went to users on the list. EvieLannister (https://loyce.club/Merit/history/3103294.html) Out of 3 merits awarded, only 1 were not for users on the list. Users not mentioned, generally received merits from these users, or will only give 1 or 2 merits to these or other users. Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: Timelord2067 on August 24, 2021, 11:49:36 AM I was surprised. The first name was me. I seemed to be a suspect in the forum. :-\ :-\ I abide by the rules of the forum and did not create spam. I actively learn new knowledge in the forum and actively make a little contribution of my own. I am not an account farmer, and I do not have a replacement number (although this phenomenon is real), and I have not participated in any form of bounty program, at least not yet. Maybe I will participate in some projects that I feel are good. Although I feel a little angry, >:(I don’t want to be rude to people I respect. I will continue to abide by the rules of the forum and do my own thing. What I care about is whether I can get more knowledge points. And give merit to the poster (I don't consider whether it is a newbie). Thank you. First of all thank you sir, you have played a very good guide to my novice career：[GUIDE for NEWBIE] Merit-help from other users, how to use them correctly? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5350002.0) sir, I'm surprised I appeared on your suspicion list. I reviewed all my actions on the forum and did not find any violations of the rules. I have never plagiarized, all posts are through my own thinking. Never beg for merit. Never used an alt account. You can view all my posts one by one, especially those topics. They consume my energy, and I also learned a lot in the process of publishing the topic. I have not posted any spam. I have not participated in any bounty and don’t plan to participate in the future. To be honest, I am not short of money, I have benefited a lot from investing in cryptocurrency. What I care most about is my credibility. I think it’s an insult to me and everyone else on your list. But if many people on this list are innocent, I don't know what other people on your list think. But this list really hurts my self-esteem. You are one of the people who have contributed the most to the forum, and I have always respected you. Thank you for your contribution. I'm not surprised... *edit* I've just about run out of colours to highlight the similarities in those two posts... Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: lovesmayfamilis on August 24, 2021, 12:06:00 PM It was naive to think that such successful newcomers would not be noticed. I also warned recently and repeatedly that alternate accounts are not prohibited. The deception that they use is prohibited.
Less than a month later, they are all exactly on the same list. Guys, I already warned you. Today I see a similar bunch of accounts growing rapidly with merit. These accounts are good at writing, but there are overlaps in writing style. Therefore, I have already written more than once that alternative accounts are not prohibited, the transfer of merits to each other is prohibited, and, well, banal participation in the same companies. Time will judge whether they are honest or not. Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: The Ghoul on August 24, 2021, 12:49:06 PM ~ So you suspect that I and HaleyOccam are the same person? Do your words with colors have any meaning?I can only say that not only your words are colored, you also wear a pair of colored glasses. Don't pretend to have a pair of detective eyes. The pattern you found this time may not even be convinced by yourself. Even the humility of these newcomers is regarded as the sophistry of the same person? The fact that The Ghoul and HaleyOccam, who came running here to make excuses, are the same user who cheats on the forum, I think, is beyond doubt. They bury themselves even deeper with their reactions. 1. I never knew the name HaleyOccam before this2. Please tell me the reason why you connected me to him/her Sir, you are one of the people I respect most in the forum,I believe you are just. Please be fair for me,Thanks！！ There is nothing wrong with the crime you want to add. Unnecessary charges were imposed on me, and I have to say that I am sick. I hope you find the evidence that you say as soon as possible. What I see in my eyes is a group of bandits who bully newcomers by virtue of their earlier background in the forum. Whatever you say, I have never violated the rules of the forum. You just report it, I don't care. Timelord2067,very good.You are very talented. I suggest you buy an intelligence book for children to find regularity. I guess you can break the world record. ;D black star=dark star ? I left the forum for a while during the bear market to cool off without the mistakes I made on this forum. I recently noticed that my profile has been tagged by Timelord2067 with the tag "Not an alt of DarkStar_ u=507936". I don't know DarkStar and I have nothing to do with him so people don't need to connect me with anyone on this forum including DarkStar. I have a username that might be similar to DarkStar "_BlackStar", but is that something to be considered reckless on my part that someone should tagged me as non-alt DarkStar? What is this for? Should Timelord2067 tag me and tell people I'm not alt DarkStar? I feel a little intimidated by the Timelord2067 review or tag on my profile, this makes me think that this forum doesn't give me the right to choose the username I want. Read your post. It’s not difficult to find that you are a gossip, a slander expert, a master at finding regularity, and a trust system abuser. Feel free to check any of my posts, merits, login time, words, and punctuation. I gave you a negative evaluation, you must be responsible for what you do. Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: Timelord2067 on August 24, 2021, 05:02:56 PM ... Waffle ... One of the other things I've just noticed that the two users have in common is their use of one sentence paragraphs. Notice in my quote just above (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5355776.msg57772236#msg57772236) how both have the same style in saying something, but don't use a paragraph properly as though by saying one sentence at a time it conveys more weight if set out in paragraph form. Quote black star=dark star ? You "sir" must be dyslexic. What I wrote was:
As you can see, I did not say they are alts. Quote I gave you a negative evaluation, you must be responsible for what you do. I'll leave this here for others to evaluate what you wrote on my trust feedback page:
(Funny how you've lashed out at just me out of all the posters who studied your alts)... Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: joker_josue on August 24, 2021, 05:09:49 PM I'll leave this here for others to evaluate what you wrote on my trust feedback page:
(Funny how you've lashed out at just me out of all the posters who studied your alts)... And how does he know the others are alts? ::) Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: Timelord2067 on August 24, 2021, 05:23:33 PM And how does he know the others are alts? ::) I'm not surprised... The fact that The Ghoul and HaleyOccam, who came running here to make excuses, are the same user who cheats on the forum, I think, is beyond doubt. They bury themselves even deeper with their reactions. Perhaps you should try reading the thread? Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 24, 2021, 06:33:39 PM Unnecessary charges were imposed on me, and I have to say that I am sick. As I wrote, I'm not 100% convinced there's a linkage between all of the accounts I listed, but I'm 100% convinced that at least some of them are alts of each other. The reason you made my list isn't because of a similar username but because of your merit-giving history, which kept coming up as I looked into all the other accounts.I hope you find the evidence that you say as soon as possible. That's what this thread is for. I don't want anyone to draw any conclusions unless there's reasonable evidence accounts are connected, and so far there has been some good evidence presented for some of the accounts.What I see in my eyes is a group of bandits who bully newcomers by virtue of their earlier background in the forum. This forum is a bitch, ain't it? Seriously, the reason why I created this thread is because this kind of shit has happened before, which I referenced in a previous post. And it's always going to be new accounts involved, by virtue of them being farmed. An account farm has to start at the beginning, right?I have a username that might be similar to DarkStar "_BlackStar", but is that something to be considered reckless on my part that someone should tagged me as non-alt DarkStar? What is this for? Should Timelord2067 tag me and tell people I'm not alt DarkStar? That has already been noticed, and I even commented on it a while back, thinking it might be DarkStar_'s alt. In any case, having an alt account is not a forum no-no, but account farming is, and abusing bounties and/or merit definitely is. As far as I know, _BlackStar hasn't engaged in any of that.Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: joker_josue on August 24, 2021, 07:51:50 PM Perhaps you should try reading the thread? I was being ironic! If he criticizes our analysis, he concludes that they are alts. You cannot use this analysis to justify giving a negative truth. In practice, by saying this, he is confirming our suspicions! ;) Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: Timelord2067 on August 26, 2021, 08:55:52 AM In practice, by saying this, he is confirming our suspicions! ;) Got it. Just to be clear, while I'm certain these UID's are indeed Alts, I haven't as yet placed any trust feedback on any of their trust feedback pages. Good, bad, or indifferent. Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 29, 2021, 03:04:05 AM It's late and I haven't delved deep into the posts of all these members, but some of them seem to have a penchant for using bullet points:
Let us analyze your data：
It seems that the most confident person is you.You are a “definition king”.Let me enumerate the definition you have made：
Bitcoin is digital gold for the following reasons:
And sure, it could just be a complete coincidence, but ya know? With all that other evidence Ratimov presented....I don't think so. Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: lovesmayfamilis on August 29, 2021, 04:55:45 AM It's late and I haven't delved deep into the posts of all these members, but some of them seem to have a penchant for using bullet points: And sure, it could just be a complete coincidence, but ya know? With all that other evidence Ratimov presented....I don't think so. You are not mistaken. This was one of the hallmarks of this group. I've written about this before. Again, some kind of coincidence. ::) I support. Almost all the violas you presented also use lists similar to this design.
At first, I was somewhat surprised that many newbies appeared who use this. But later, if you pay attention to their transfer of merits, the same accounts always appear. Just as an extra "coincidence" Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 31, 2021, 07:15:40 AM You are not mistaken. This was one of the hallmarks of this group. I've written about this before. My apologies--I checked Ratimov's thread and at least one of the others to see if that particular trait had been mentioned before, but I must have missed your post. So anyway, that's just more evidence that these accounts are connected, whether they're being controlled by a single person or are part of a team. It doesn't matter to me which it is at this point, because I've got most of them on ignore (I may have missed a few) and they're not getting any merits from me.I appreciate your input. Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: Kittygalore on September 02, 2021, 05:23:28 PM I don't know if it's been pointed out already but the name combinations seem to connect to some popular pop culture names like Briggs (Jacqui Briggs from Mortal Kombat is what I've though first), Kudrow (Lisa Kudrow from F.R.I.E.N.D.S.), and Stanley Boyle (We Happy Few 2). I don't know about the others and I am not entirely sure that there's really sense in the connection that I've made.
Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 02, 2021, 09:29:31 PM I don't know if it's been pointed out already but the name combinations seem to connect to some popular pop culture names like Briggs (Jacqui Briggs from Mortal Kombat is what I've though first), Kudrow (Lisa Kudrow from F.R.I.E.N.D.S.), and Stanley Boyle (We Happy Few 2). I don't know about the others and I am not entirely sure that there's really sense in the connection that I've made. I'm not up to speed on most aspects of pop culture (and we're probably from different generations, too), but that theory might hold some water. Kudrow is not a common name--at least not where I'm from, nor is Briggs really, but I've seen the name Boyle a few times. Who knows whether that's how the usernames were derived? Either way, Ratimov and members who posted in his thread have provided enough evidence to clear up any doubts people had as to whether those accounts are connected.Speaking of which, I haven't seen that thread or the other ones by Jazmin Whoever being bumped in the last day or so. Have they all given up any pretense that they're not an account farm or what? Title: Re: Can someone with data crunching skills help me out with account linkage? Post by: Timelord2067 on September 02, 2021, 09:38:43 PM I would have to say that The Ghoul is the central UID and the others are the "farm" being cultivated by this main alt. If you look at The Ghoul's trust feedback page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3364128), you will see that I am the only one this alt (or indeed any of the alts that I have checked) targets:
At a guess, I was targeted because I am the OP of the Known Alts thread, so their anger has been directed at just me. I don't know if it's been pointed out already but the name combinations seem to connect to some popular pop culture names ...
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