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When finding a new coin, should the percentage the top holders earn influence your decision to buy in. for example if the top holders own > 50% ?

understood however when looking at coin like Covalent, the top 100 own 99%. does this matter ?? I thought maybe supply should be more spread

Of course it does matter, if top 100 owns 99% then something is wrong with that project.

It can easily be manipulated for instance, or what if those suddenly dump the coins in the market? What will be the results? It will be a disaster for those small holders.

To be fair, there are a lot of projects like this, so personally, I would stay away from this projects.

it makes no sense mate if you will base only how much the percentage of holder within the project. and there's a chance for you to fell with scam coin because mostly nowadays are fake even volume and market cap.. By the way yes i said " volume and market cap" because that the important stuff how to determine the potential of a project wherein not the amount of holders in my personal opinion ,
nevertheless if i were you if you're looking for a good coin to invest, i highly recommend to visit coinmarketcap where all of the stats of projects are genuine, and surely through that site you can see a good project, but remember the volume and market cap  if you really want a good return after all.

I haven't seen any decent coin having its top holders with more than 50% or 90% holdings. But I have seen shitcoins or meme coins with such holdings, and you know what? in a matter of days, hours or even minutes, they're dead.  :D

For me, top holders plays an important roles on a coin, because they are whales, they can manipulate it, they have much control over you, and even over the project or coin. You are at greater risk if you put yourself on things like that. But it is still up to you, if you are ready to play their game, then why not buy in, but just remember to keep an eye on it.  :D

This can obviously influence me to buy on a new project and when looking at 99% token holder ownership it is clear it could be the project owner who can be manipulated by the market at any time this will be a big risk if the project owner does bad things to get more money then I avoid it more his.

There's been a lot going on now, when looking at bigger holders and this should be a little suspicious because new projects won't have a bigger percentage except for the owners.

I definitely think that the coin distribution of a crypto project is a very important factor if you look at potential projects for an investment. The coins should be as widely distributed as possible with many thousands of different holders. Of course it is very unlikely that a Brand New project already has that many holders but you still have to look for the distribution of the coins there. If a few wallets are Holding the biggest part of the supply then you should definitely stay away from that project. You need to check first if those wallets are for the staking rewards or stuff line that of course.

If that be the case, then it's not a good Investment option as there is way too much monopoly in that project, and then again coins like this are more or less shitcoins, you really should have nothing to do with such projects, these holders can destroy the project in a single day by selling every of the coin they have, making the project a short term/unsuccessful one. You should be interested in long term projects like Bitcoin and maybe ethereum, coins that absolutely nobody has control over and even the government cannot destroy it, not coins that the actions of a 'few' can signal the end of it.

For a new token, you first need to know how many tokens there are in the market. How many exchanges there are and how much volume there is. You then decide what% profit you want to sell. But it is better not to go for new tokens. It is not possible to say how much profit or loss

Be careful it's not normal where the biggest holder reaches 99%, this will be a throwaway game and leave. Isn't that obviously suspicious? At least this allocation will make you think again, if you find something like this, it is clearly not a good investment or trade center.

I think everyone gives you the same warning, which is to pay attention to all aspects that can give you losses in the future. Coins or tokens of this kind will not last long. It was clear that such a large possession was suspicious from the start.

You should never make a decision based on one metric.
This indicator may be a red flag for you, but you need to figure out what these addresses are.
These can be the addresses of exchanges or funds for the distribution of tokens that are locked.
It is better to ask for advice about the project, but not just ask the question: "Is it right to invest in this coin?" and will share the information that you found when analyzing the project.

It depends on the economical structure of that project. Honestly, to make a decision to invest in the next big things require further effort rather than only the metric you stated. There are a lot of more significant metrics that you should look upon to analyze whether the project is worth noting or it is just another shitcoins.

of course it doesn't affect my decision as long as the holder who has >50% are not devs and only investor, because what affects my decision to invest is,
1. the progress that the project has made from the beginning until now
2. the project idea is useful in the future and has an advantage over other projects (rivals)
3. the team is very responsive and friendly, and always provides information about project developments

It should.

Remember this you must also aware about how much to total holders of such asset. You can identify whether it has a fair distribution or not. When there are only two address with the biggest hodl and you must be careful if this possibility the tokens that hodl by the team or developers.

More token holders and then it will represent the demand for the token. The big holders mean a lot when there was a lot of big holders on the various address like hundreds or even thousands of address.

that will be a scam sign when there were only two address that hodl the most of assets.

that's why percentage of top holders mean a lot. it can be said that related to the whales address

I think yes, holder that have so many total supply of token like that can probably control the market because those coin can be dumped into the market anytime and make the price of the coin drop sharply and it can create panic selling in the market.
That's why many people also see the amount of token holders if it has many holders, people will think its worth for trading or investing. Like the token thats already popular like AXS it has so many token holders and it have less chance of panic selling in the market.

The more coins in the hands of a small number of people, the worse it is. It just makes the risk of a big sale higher. It means that flash sale is theoretically possible, i.e. a very fast, large drop in price, even in a second.
The situation is close to this with Dogecoin, where over 25% is in the hands of a very small number of investors, which is why Elon Musk stopped supporting DOGE.
I also avoid coins / tokens that have situation like this.

We need to be careful about the delivery of tokens and analyze the market properly. Because it does not take long for the top holders to go down as low as they can raise the price of the currency, the traders suffer a lot. Newcomers are more at risk they have less knowledge to deliver tokens there is not much idea about pump dump. Therefore before investing you need to analyze the market and verify the reliability of the tokens.

It shouldn't have happened like that, A person/investor who owns more than 50% token supply, unless it's a wallet for token burning, Like some new projects that burn most of their token supply. It is also possible that the wallet that holds more than 50% of the token supply is the token allocation wallet that will be distributed.
Therefore it would be better if a project distributes their tokens into multiple wallets according to the planned token allocation, and each wallet is tagged for a specific allocation.

some says that was bad .
 maybe because they think that the top owners of that coin can dump it verry hard but to me i think that was also good if there are top holders because they are also the reason why the price is high and stable as long as they continue holding thier coins but dumps are still unavoidable and can occur later on .
 other than that the number of holders is also a must to check , the higher the number is , the better .

It's just as if you pour out your water because your neighbour fetches more, it's on a wrong basis and it's vague, your. Investment proportion or decision should be to influence by your research, not by other proportions, one needs to take necessary cautions when investing, and because it works for someone doesn't mean it will for another.

Well this makes sense now and that is right, it could be there is a chance that the project could be manipulated by the top holders, they can easily play the market such as pump and dump, or later on, --they will sell their coin holding coin and make a massive drop. A good project should have a massive number of people that hold on to it genuinely, it means it is back by the community and it is not easy to manipulate. I think this is a part of the investment research that we must avoid.

On the contrary, if the holders are all investors, then there is a big risk that they will dump it when the price reaches all time high. For the devs, I'm sure they know that if they did dump it, the project will die so I doubt that they will do it.

So it's worst that holders own > 50%, just like what we've seen in Doge. And like the rest of the majority, this kind of setup doesn't look good in my opinion. It should be at least evenly distributed amongst investors and devs.

Top holders meant whales were buying the coins. I do believe if the whales have a lot of consideration before trying to pick a coin to be used as their bags. I have been seeing it so many times that the whales were accumulating the gems.
The whales will be also shilling for another whale as well. that's why the top holders can be used as a way to know how much adoption happened with the coin or token.

that's affecting my decision to know about which potential coin will be boom soon. There must be an exception for the top holders that hodl a lot of coins from the total supply coz it's related to the owner of the token.
Some people were also giving the right opinion about this above me. that needs more evaluation but as long as you're doing it in a good way and then it can be used as a technical aspect to determine how good the coin is.

I think the percentage of people holding a particular coin as an effect on the price of the coin because if it is a coin that is really in demand and people are really after more people holding it will mean that lets of the coin is in circulation which in turn in turn makes the coin most cars and scarcity always drives the body of cryptocurrency Bitcoin for example has a lot of people holding it and with the Bitcoin halving that keeps happening every couple of years the history of Bitcoin keeps increasing due to the decrease in supply this in turn into ice the price of BTC up

Sure, especially if this project is new and untrusted. And especially if we don't know much about the team. The risk is huge, why taking it? There are many other good coins :)

Now that's the importance of doing research before we know it accurately every new project should be suspected for our good so as not to get a loss, especially conducting investigations from the development team and trying to communicate to ask important things and suspicions about the project.

and holding large amounts of koin above 50% must be wary because holding very large coins can affect the market movement and we will not know if he throws them away suddenly and without thinking about small holders.

Nope i am not influenced by top holders because for me This will lead to manipulation if there are top holders who can just Pump and dump the value of the coin.

i still trust coins with small holders each so at least i know that the investors are a believer and supporter and not just there to Earn but to let the project grow for long term purposes.

walk away to the mentioned  example because that is the main reason why Manipulator succeed in their strategy of bagging money from small investors.

If a team controls the supply of a token you can get dumped on, that's why I invest in mineable projects like BTC, RVN, and 0xMR. It's impossible to exit scam or rugpull these projects.

Personally I don’t buy tokens when I see that more than 30% of tokens are in the hands of one person. Whales can be really dangerous for small investors as they can easily manipulate the price. Also it can be an indicator of a scam project, as big holders can wait for pumping of price and then sell it at one moment. One more thing is that when one person has a big percentage it destroys decentralisation.

Yes, obviously it impacts. You are saying if 50% hold by the top holders I think I would not consider it buying if the coin is new because there can be a manipulation. Big coin holders can control the market and it's not good for the small bag holders but apart from this, we should check the project development and how strong the community of the coin are these are the basic things one needs to check before buying.

The decision depends on our personal beliefs, if you believe in the decision that the new coin will become a valuable investment asset, then you may change, affecting our decision to buy the new coin

That's true of course there are other things we should check before buying because after all they are important things,
and when we see that both the development of the project and the community of the coin is good I think it's a good choice to buy it,
but it comes back to each person's decision

Of course mate, the percentage of the coin holders is matters. We should be careful with the coin that have big % owned by the owner.
Thats why we should understand the coinomics / tokenomics of the coin we want to buy, it will surely affect the price in the future.

Before deciding to buy the coin, what I need to know is the number of investors (holders) and the percentage of coin ownership, a good coin that has a minimum holder of about a thousand and ownership must be evenly distributed, so no one has the most control over coin ownership, so I will hesitate to buy if someone has more than 50% of the coin.
furthermore, the maximum supply of coins is the number of coins that will be circulated to be traded to investors / holders, this coin supply greatly affects the speed of coin price development, the less the better to hold.

Top holders can affect the price as the small holders will be forced to sell their coin as the supply will increase when a top holder will dump their coin in the market. This will happen to new tokens or coins. If the coin or token will survive then there is a chance that the price will go up after the downfall then the token holder will increase but we don't have a choice if there's a rich person who will bought more tokens than the holders but locked tokens will be safe for as long as it is safe before the top holders can dump their tokens/coins.

of course. it affects so much, that if a person owns more than 50% of the total amount of coin allocation, it greatly affects the price. maybe, he could make the price drop any time. because of this, some projects restrict one from buying a coin while it is still pre-sale. however, if he does it by buying in the market, I think it's fine. I might still buy it just to use the functionality of the token. but for a new coin, I think it's too risky to hold the coin for long. above 50% is too much.

new coins with top 50% holders? yes, I think this is very high risk, don't ever try to invest in such coins. the downside is that you can get stuck on the coin RUG. I mean you can buy it but you can't resell it. This is something to be aware of if you don't want to lose money.

very influential,, because later it can change and give high value to the assets that he has bought, but it's all not as fast as we expect, because everything requires a process and the process is necessary with how we hold our patience to have it..

We have to be careful as holders in crypto. It is very risky if the owner has more percent. Manipulation always happens whenever they want to. An investor is someone who will be most disadvantaged in this regard when something untoward happens. The owner is the largest holder of control for the future progress of the project.

If the guy is Elon Musk but if the influencer that gives an introduction to that coin isn't the guy then don't you expect that there's so much to expect from it.
Because it's going to be another project that has been being marketed not only by its influencers but as well as the developers. You still need to go through what's an important point on that project before you invest. Change your style of being influenced as you invest.

Stay away if this particular project has an investors who holds huge percentage of the total supply of the coin/token. It can be easily manipulated and worse can happen if they sell. Investors who only have a small percentage will suffer and the coin gets dumped and might never recover (but it depends if we're talking about the project that has utility).

Thus before investing DYOR to know the factors to look into that can help you find a good project to invest in.

That's a problem if the project doesn't make that clear. I find that this space is already full of scammers taking advantage of the ignorance and greed of new entrants. However, if the newbies have good control over everything, then I think they will not be scammed at all, and I advise you to stay away from projects that are not transparent about this, if the dev does not have a specific explanation. For that matter, we can completely take it out of our minds. :)

Actually, if you want to invest, of course, you have to ask the team first if you find these obstacles, if you can accept their explanation, there is no harm in investing in the project. try when you want to invest do research thoroughly so you don't regret it in the future.

It is not recommended to invest in new coins without understanding.
There are many scams now.
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Everyone’s suggestions are good, depending on how much you listen to.
Don't be too confident and learn to listen to the opinions of others.
Don't invest emotionally, be too risky.

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People are hooked up to invest in new cheap coins are because they saw some cases that some really cheap coins with no quality get pumped hard more than 100x times it's initial price, but people are forgetting tons of new coins launched every day and the cases that new cheap coins get pumped is in 1:1mil ratio. They keep speculating on new cheap coins with their little money in case just try their luck.
It's okay to to this but just make sure we invest the money that we don't need or that we can afford to lose

It is best to avoid new projects in which the top holders hold a large percentage, it is very risky for manipulation to occur. Because whenever the top
holders can make a dump, we as small investors will be the victims. Because if it's too late to sell, as a result we will be stuck holding the coins for
a relatively long time. That is the importance of doing research first before deciding on an investment, so it is not wrong to choose projects.
For newbies, it is safer to invest in top altcoins, which have high volumes, making it easier to sell coins. If the price falls, usually the top altcoins
are relatively quick to recover.

If you will able to get the right timing of Buying and selling then it is good , but if you will risk for long term holding? this is a Bullshit action because at any chance the 50% holder can dump the coin and you'll be dead tomorrow.
Stupid thread hijacker , create your own Thread in ANN section and not promoting your shit project in other thread.

New coins usually have high hype because the profits generated are so high that they are able to make them expensive as they happen because the profits are high, a lot of things have happened that can be obtained from new coins, of course, it will give big profits, investors often get more profit. each time can get a very large profit more than the first investment obtained.

Yes, the amount of top holders own of course need to be considered. Over 50% of a new coin were in top holders meaning this coin's fate is totally dependent on them. You better find something else to invest in than that.

I better not buy that coin if I find there is a top holder with 50% of the total supply because that is close to manipulation and the market will be unhealthy later. If a coin is launched in the market, it needs to be heterogeneous to be volatile, so how can buying and selling occur if the top holder is silent and does not want to move the market with buy and sell orders?

Buying coin with too big single holder just like when we buy it in the presale, and dont know when it will give us profit without clear roadmap.

that's one indication of a coin scam. The only way to be trusted is for coin holders to reduce the supply. because it is feared that it will dump on a large scale and it will result in investor losses. many such events where after investors have entered the project and invested heavily the holder sells 100% of the tokens and as a result the tokens cannot rise and fall

Isn't it very worrying if the highest holder owns more than 50% of the tokens, then what if the holder releases all his assets, of course the price can drop because the highest holder leaves the project so that it can make other investors hesitate to think about holding the tokens longer because the risk given is quite high if we go into token project like that.

If you are going to invest in altcoins then one of the most important things that you need to look for is how many of those coins are being held by the developers of the project, because it is very common that they are going to keep most of the coins that they have created and then when the coin finally achieves a good enough volume they begin to sell, crash the market and then disappear with profits.

So without a doubt if you see that those that are at the top are holding more than 50% of the whole supply of the coins then it is a good idea to never invest in it because they can crash the market at any moment and you will be unable to predict when that will happen.

If we believe in the coin we holding as well we understand their plans as well risk then it will be easier to hold them despite the price drops due to other investors. Though it will be much better if we know if there are holders like in stock market to know whether we need to add more  cash out some if there are news or happening about that coin.

I don't think it is a good consideration since I don't trust these people. You can see Elon Musk's manipulation with Bitcoin. I think you should only check the project's use case, dev team, potential to growth, having every day development and so on. One of the best altcoins I highly recommend buying now is this promising gem called XSN, the native cryptocurrency of Stakenet. A stable and credible project backed by a transparent and solid team of professionals. The current comprehensive development growth is what keeps me super bullish and excited about it.

be careful with new coins at this time because there are so many new coins that are not able to develop properly so they die by themselves. moreover the top holder has more than 50%, then in my opinion it is a shitcoin that we don't need to buy because it can make us lose. so my advice please look at the better altcoins and the top holders only have 10% - 20%.

For reminding that if top holder has more than 50% probably its a locked liquidity or any exchange wallet, so check it more detailed to have some conclusion of it.
But if its a whales or team funding which not locked for periodic time, it could be a problem soon.

Yes, when many more investors are holding the tokens, the chance to grow up maybe higher although this doesn't guaranteed. However for me myself, this becomes one of the reasons why commonly I will also buy and hold the token. Of course, This is not only the factor that I must take because I need many more factors to ensure my decision. Like what kind of token, the use case, the project team and developer, the exchanges, and many more others.
Moreover, if that is a new coin.
And if that is for top coins itself, top holder tokens are alco considerable in order to see the token supply, demand, and also circulation.

I do think that it is an important factor, how the coins are distributed among the holders. I mean most crypto projects claim to be decentralized but if a lot of coins or even the majority like in your example are in the hands of only few dozens of people for example then i would say that projects is pretty centralized and those few holders can basically control everything that happens with this projects. They can kill the price of it if they decide to sell off their holdings, if there is some kind of staking available for this project then the gap between them and the other holders will only become bigger and if there is also some sort of governance function implemented in the token then they can also completely dictate the course of the project.

i think if there is a new coin and the top holder has 50% of the total supply it is very dangerous and the holder of the 50% of the coin is clearly very influential with the coin and it doesn't take long anytime he can drop the coin maybe in a matter of hours he can drop it base.

I have seen many projects that made more than 20X when the top 10 holders have 90% of the total supply. Actually, it's risky to put any money on those projects but for a working project, I saw the team push the price exponentially by keeping most of the supply out of circulation. The team will surely sell their token gradually but for quick profits, I can risk some money to those projects.

That's risky, a good project will try to have as many holders as possible and will try to equally distribute their token that is why some tokens do their ICO in a launch pad where investors investment is limited, few holders holding 50% can manipulate the price and especially if the holders are the developers of the tokens, and if it is a farm-based token you should check the liquidity and the certik certificate to avoid rug pull.

I do think that the coin distribution is an important factor. If a small percentage of people is holding most of the coins then this is definitely something that would scare me off from investing into that project at the first glance. You always need to check carefully though or ask in the telegram what those wallets are. I had this with Drip Network for example where i think more than 70% of all the tokens is in just 1 wallet, which would also be a huge no-go at the first glance but if you investigate a little further than you will see that this wallet is not owned by any person but it is the treasury wallet of the whole project where all the interest is being paid out from.

Only shitcoins have huge percentage holding by top holders, this is a game of death for real  ;D I exited a meme token because of this an few days later these whales started selling and the price was greatly affected, equally distribution of tokens brings balance to a project and erase the fact that one person can crash the whole project value just by selling his or her bag

So got lucky and exited on time bro, if not, they you could be the next victim of whales trying to manipulate the price of a shitcoin and meme coins. And right, this is a dangerous game that we are in because of this one. For us small and average joe investors, it's a game of death because we are putting our hard earn money and gambling it to make profits. But if this whales are playing, the whole game will change and to their advantage.

Unfortunately, the ownership of the top holder cannot be ascertained. What if the top holder is the team that they are likely to sell at some point in time and make the price worse?
I don't see from the number of top holders. I see how well the team is doing to promote the coin or token, whether it's listed on the best exchanges, or the level of development on their platform.

There are many examples both with one logic and with another. Sometimes it's important, sometimes not. In fact, it all depends on the roadmap and the total amount of money that must be contributed to the project. A coin can be brought down not by top holders, but by a trend of distrust towards this coin.

Not so. Investing is not based on the most coins. To see a good coin or not you can see in coinmarketcap. All the movements of the coin will be visible there.

Run, I repeat run for your life if you come across any token that a holder have access to 50% of its max supply, this means that this holder can manipulate the token value, not good mate not good, even if the project is so good at one point this holder will drag it down for a while.

It will happened in almost all the project.The developers and project holders had a control over the project. It's not a unique one and it's common one.When they want to manipulate the price variation in their coin, the adjust it by the token supply into the market.


Being a source of the project, they would like to control it based on their own way.In a long run, the team of certain project will became a whale for the long run.And they try to change the token price, when ever they like to do that.So in some project, most of the coin price vary suddenly the huge amount. Background investigation of the project is important one for the safer side.

yes, greatly influenced my decision to buy the altcoin. because if you get the top holder owning more than 50% then you have to stop and take the decision to ignore the altcoin so you don't lose assets in the future. try to learn about good altcoins then you won't find the top holders own more than 50% . so if you want to buy an altcoin then look at the top holders owning as much as 10-20% only.

Yes, it may be one of the considerations that we must think about, who is the holder, how much, and how long.
It will make us think realistic and more logically about the strength and weaknesses of the projects.
But if this is about Bitcoin, I think that there is no problem or no matter for holding.

It is moreover for special new token or coin from new projects, exactly we must double think about this. If a higher amount of percentage or mostly percentage are held by an only a certain person, it will also influence the value and probabilities of market manipulation. And maybe it will not be good at all for the long term inevstment