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hello first of all I would like to introduce, my name is Dimas Putra Pratama. I come from Indonesia.
I was given this account by a close friend of mine.
strangely I have known BTC for a long time in 2015, even I bought about 19 BTC at a price of $210 with a capital of around $4000, but I only found out about this forum in 2021 and was also told by my friend.

so, i have about 19 BTC and i keep it in blockchain.com mobile wallet. bad thing happened to me that my phone was stolen by someone in 2016, even i feel frustrated after seeing current BTC price  :-[. At that time I also registered using the cellphone number +6287**** , made a 4 pin code and the number was saved on the cellphone, I couldn't do much to try to access it because all the data was stored on the cellphone,on the one hand I still have a copy (Prahse Secret Privatkey Recovery) but I'm missing the (Prahse Secret Privatkey Recovery) at paragraph 12  :'(
I want to ask for help from the community here to help me, is there any possibility to get BTC back? if anyone can do it then i don't mind giving 3 BTC bonus.

Sorry for what happened and to your losses.
There is no way to recover those and if you no longer the recovery phrase that has been given to you by them, it is impossible to get back those 19 btc of yours. I doubt it that even you contact them and you cannot show proof of ownership with that wallet of yours, they won't give it back.

- Missing your phone
- Missing your Prahse Secret Privatkey Recovery

IMO, there is no way anymore you can access to your web wallet. I read a couple of thread on Reddit they try to contact support, can't really help because user responsible of their fund.

If you just lost your phone number, maybe this problem can be solved by you contacting the service provider to get your number back with a new card so you can get the message code sent to that number for recovery, but if Secret Private Recovery is also lost then there is no way for that, especially if the data you save is only on the phone and does not have a copy of the data on another device.

gone that

crazy how much BTC is lost forever

First of all edit your post and delete your name and your telephone number as it is important that you keep your privacy, and about the topic at hand there is no way to recover your coins, I know this is not what you want to hear especially as you bought a decent amount of coins so long ago and it could mean an easier life if you got access to those coins, but there is nothing to do, you are the one responsible to protect your coins and since you failed then no one else will be able to get access to them.

There is only one way to get back your btc and is only if you can locate the thief, locate the phone and get access to your seed else your chance ls of getting back your 19 btc is very slim.
Lesson for all, always backup your file on cloud and personal computers. I do that most of the time as I never know when I may loose my phone and pc. I also make sure I do that also when I feel like replacing phone to a new one.

Maybe find the social media of blockchain.com and try contacting them. But you must show some proof of ownership. This all you can do. Apart of that nothing we can do, thats life. Sometimes bad things happened.

Hay man, I am sorry to say that, if you don't know the value and status of BTC. I agree, if you buy, you must  know about the security of private key, you must written in a diary. you never recover your btc there is no way. cloud storage, device storage is not secure for private key of you account.
You just think, what you lost in 2021.    

There is still a way for your problem, I have messaged you, I will help you fix it if you agree let's do a deal with Bonus 8 BTC.

What do you mean by that(at paragraph 12)? Are you missing one of the words of the recovery phase or what?

The blockchain.info (blockchain.com) recovery phrase created in 2015ish only contains the wallet id and password^{[1] (https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/68546/16-word-recovery-phrase-for-blockchain-wallet-not-working)}. So, I presume you have already been trying to access it but the problem is you missing the OTP key from the phone number right?

I couldn't find any information about resetting the OTP from a phone number, I suggest you trying to contact their support about it. I think your only solution is to find a workaround to reset that number, if they somehow can help you, it will be good.

Don't you think if he had even done cloud storage it would have save him a little, it maybe be risky but it can save the situation by quickly signing into the cloud storage platform through another means, get your information and delete the information from the cloud account then move your funds to a more secure place,  even when it is written down, it is also possible to misplace dairy or other natural disaster can occur, this could have been easily prevented if stored in more than one place.

That was already a huge amount, in today's Bitcoin price what a loss, Just consider it as an addition to BItcoin circulation in Limbo since there is no way to recover that for sure because if there's a way I'm sure those millions of BTC circulation in Limbo is already recovered. that's why I think you should move on with that. 

The point caught here is that you can't access the verification codes sent to your lost cell phone number, but there is an alternative to your way of visiting certain mobile providers to return your lost cell number and create a new number with the same number and in the possession of the complete number. And if this isn't where it went wrong, there's a good chance that 19btc you can't take back.

You can try the service section but it's not a guaranty that they can fully recover your account and there's a risk that they will not let go of those coins if they recover, this should be a lesson to every newbie and even to old investors to always keep your private keys in a safe where you or people you trust can access, and to all newbies to defer or do not invest yet unless you know how to secure your wallet, everything depends on your knowledge of Cryptocurrency.

It could have been a great profit for you if you still have the private key. At the time when I first learn about Blockchain online wallet, they only ask for email upon registration and did not even give us key phrase. 2015 must-have lots of changes in blockchain.com, so far I can read many users claiming to have their key phrase.

so if you don't have the key phrase, it's lost already. Sorry for the loss. Its gotta be a lot of money now.

It’s totally by your responsibility, you loses your key of wallet which one is only to recover your wallet and fund also. disappointing situation.

No, there's no way that you can recover your bitcoin though, since you have lost your phone already. It's hard to guess what phrase are you missing.

In any case, I feel sad and dishearten to hear you lost 19 BTC in an instant. Not to rub it in, I myself lost early but I can't do anything about it so I just move on in my life and treat it as a expensive lessons to learn in crypto sphere.

I think there is no way to recover your bitcoins, your phone was stolen and also missing phrase private keys but missing at paragraph 12 on your private keys, try to remember it, that's the only way to access your account. If you can't remember then I think you should move on, next time save your private keys and also use extra phone for crypto wallets..

Unfortunately, there is no way for you to get into your wallet if you lose your private key. there have been so many cases like that, and as far as I know, no one has been able to get back into his account when he lost his private key. I'm sorry for what happened to you my friend. unfortunately, the only way for that is to find your smartphone back by tracking it. Yeah, it's hard but that's what you need to do.

however, talking about the private key you store on your phone. don't you save it in cloud storage or google drive? maybe you accidentally uploaded it, check it out.

When you lose your phone or laptop where you have your wallet with crypto, or even when you lose a cold wallet like Ledger, you still can recover your crypto if you know the seed phrase. No one can take control over your wallet until they don’t have your private key. As you don’t have your complete seed phrase, you have lost access to your BTC. In the crypto world, only we are responsible for our assets.

hello friend, nice to meet you, and I'm also concerned about what happened to you because now the number is not a small amount.
but sorry i think you have to hear bad things because the chances of returning your assets are very slim, you have lost access when your cellphone was lost a few years ago and it's possible that your stolen cellphone is no longer there maybe it was damaged or something because of this 5 years have passed.
then it will be very difficult to return the assets you have and maybe you should try to give it up.
but take the positive side that is to be more careful and don't just save on one device because if something like this happens, you can still access it on your backup device.

19 Bitcoin? that's a very large amount when calculated at the current price of Bitcoin, less likely if you can find the thief.

I am feeling very sorry for you. There is no any way to recover your 19 BTC. That was your responsibility to keep the phrase key safe. If you forget your phrase key then you also should forget about 19 BTC. Now they have lost forever.

You don't need to overthink it. This cannot fix your problem but just give you more sadness. If you have no Bitcoin anymore, just forget to monitor Bitcoin price move. Forget it and you will be free from the sadness.

How can you keep private data on your cellphone? It was a very careless idea. Password, phrase, or private key should be kept in safe places. And you must have its copy in several places. So, when you lost 1 place, you still have another source to find your password, phrase, or private key. Regarding your case, I think it is clear that you have no way to recover it because you lost everything need to access your Bitcoin wallet.

You're not only loosing one but you have been loosing all of access to your funds. The phrase was totally random and it can't be recovered again. You need a few years or even more to create various combination from the words that used to create phrase and it will be impossible to be done.
Im sorry for your lose but you will not able to recover it again.

There's no possibility to get back your money again. You're loosing access and that means you have been loosing your proof as the owner of the wallet.
Your money will be stuck there forever. You will never able to get it back until you will be found your phrase and then enter it to open your wallet.

A very sad story. 19 Btc is not a small amount of money. I always keep my data and private keys not only on my phone, and this can save our assets from cases experienced by OP.
Just storing data and private keys on mobile phones, this is an unwise idea. Mobile phones are unsafe. One of them can be stolen by people, as is the case of the natural OP.
We can't do much with the cases that OP experienced.

19 BTC is close to a million USD. And that is a lot of money. It will be a lot more, when the exchange rates rise in the future. From what I understand from the phrase, the phone number that was used to setup the wallet is still available. Only one word is missing from the recovery phrase combination. I am not much hopeful, but you can still try contacting the guys who specialize in this. The issue is that you may need to pay a small amount upfront, and they may take around 50% of what is recovered. The reward that you are offering (3BTC) is not going to get you a lot many offers.

it's impossible. The phrase was the main thing to access your wallet. if you have been loosing your phrase since a few years ago and it's impossible thing to recover your money again.

I thought that if you must forget it dude and theres' no way for you to recover your wallet.

Your money already gone and theres' no way for you to regret it dude. Move on.

I really pay attention, and 19 BTC is quite a large buying and selling price.
and try to recover 19 BTC by detecting who is logged in to your account or in your wallet.

If your "Prahse Secret Privatkey Recovery" is incomplete then you can't access it and you won't be able to recover the 19 BTC either. And no one will be able to help you, forget it mate

Hi mate, if you can still remember your old number. Try to call your network provider. Ask if you can request them to change your current number into your old number. If they will ask you why, tell them that you have a very important account that needs to recover and that is the only way for you to recover it.

Here in my country, if you buy a new sim card and you still want to use your old number, you may call your network provider to change your new sim number to your old one. They actually allow that. My friend's dad did that coz his phone was stolen also. I hope it works. Good luck

Tracking a smartphone after 5 years is more of a fantasy. It is most likely already gone for a long time, so the chances of getting access to the wallet are almost unrealistic. It's a pity of course to lose so much money.

Too bad we are not able to help you anymore since the secret private key recovery are the only way to access a lost wallet. Seems that its gone forever and im sorry for your lost. Its like you were finding a giraffe in an ocean. Its better to move on.

Even if he can track down his phone, the chance of those data in the phone is long gone or has been wiped out by new owner. No way he can recover back 19 BTC as he also forgets his Secret Private Recovery too. Unless there is something more that he can tell like someone in this thread mentioned about phone OTP.

OP you just posted and left.

Most of the answers have been telling you that it's all gone and you can never take them back so I think even if you don't reply anymore, you're feeling bad because there's no hope with most of the posts that you have on your thread.

Accept the truth that you've gone it and no one can help you to recover your lost 19 btc. If it is a real story, that's really heartbreaking and too bad that you were not able to create a backup.

And unfortunately that is the only thing that can be done right now, he needs to move on with his life, I know that my life would be way easier if I had 19 bitcoins in my wallet and this is probably the very same thing for the one that created the thread but he is never going to recover those coins, I know it is painful to hear and it is something that he probably doesn't want to hear but it's the truth, anyone offering the possibility of recovering those coins is probably thinking about scamming him.

Thanks for all your kind positive feedback to me. and this I will make as my bad experience in the cryptocurrency industry  :'(