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Title: All puzzles already haked .. !!!!!!
Post by: COBRAS on September 01, 2021, 11:35:40 AM
120 https://hashkeys.club/120/?page=664613997892457936451903530140173

160 https://hashkeys.club/160/?page=730750818665451459101842416358141509827966272

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 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: All puzzles already haked .. !!!!!!
Post by: vjudeu on September 01, 2021, 11:58:46 AM
Nothing is hacked. There are many pages like that, for example: https://privatekeys.pw/keys/bitcoin/1

Also, coins are not yet moved. But if you know the private key for all puzzles, feel free to show us by sending them to your wallet.


Title: Re: All puzzles already haked .. !!!!!!
Post by: COBRAS on September 01, 2021, 12:01:33 PM
Nothing is hacked. There are many pages like that, for example: https://privatekeys.pw/keys/bitcoin/1

Also, coins are not yet moved. But if you know the private key for all puzzles, feel free to show us by sending them to your wallet.

Proof a exmple what no page with priv key in range 120 bit on  https://hashkeys.club ? They find all range - from start ... to ... end!!!


Title: Re: All puzzles already haked .. !!!!!!
Post by: vjudeu on September 01, 2021, 12:18:28 PM
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They find all range - from start ... to ... end!!!
Of course, because knowing all range is needed to solve any puzzles at all. But nobody touched that 120 puzzle and 160 puzzle, you can check that all coins are still there.

Anyone who knows how ECDSA works can create pages like that, I gave you another example in my post above.


Title: Re: All puzzles already haked .. !!!!!!
Post by: nc50lc on September 01, 2021, 12:51:20 PM
-snip-
You can check the puzzle's outputs here:
  • blockstream.info/tx/08389f34c98c606322740c0be6a7125d9860bb8d5cb182c02f98461e5fa6cd15 (https://blockstream.info/tx/08389f34c98c606322740c0be6a7125d9860bb8d5cb182c02f98461e5fa6cd15)
  • or here: blockchain.com/btc/tx/08389f34c98c606322740c0be6a7125d9860bb8d5cb182c02f98461e5fa6cd15 (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/08389f34c98c606322740c0be6a7125d9860bb8d5cb182c02f98461e5fa6cd15)
The second link has visual indicator if the output is unspent/spent (Green=unspent | Red= spent)

Proof a exmple what no page with priv key in range 120 bit on  https://hashkeys.club ? They find all range - from start ... to ... end!!!
Are you saying that puzzle 120's private key can't be found in that range, so the private key is "haked"?

If so, that's not how it works.
It's most likely that the private key of puzzle 120 is not within that range, it's an actual puzzle with a solution or it's just simply randomly generated;
who knows.


Title: Re: All puzzles already haked .. !!!!!!
Post by: garlonicon on September 01, 2021, 02:05:57 PM
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It's most likely that the private key of puzzle 120 is not within that range, it's an actual puzzle with a solution or it's just simply randomly generated;
who knows.
There is a way to make it provably fair, for example the puzzle creator could provide range proof. Without that, we can only trust that the puzzle creator is honest.


Title: Re: All puzzles already haked .. !!!!!!
Post by: NotATether on September 01, 2021, 03:48:41 PM
If #120 was "hacked" then certainly it would be showing on sites like this, now wouldn't it?  Why do you think that 17s2b9ksz5y7abUm92cHwG8jEPCzK3dLnT (the address) isn't visible in a browser search then? ;)


Title: Re: All puzzles already haked .. !!!!!!
Post by: COBRAS on September 01, 2021, 05:59:25 PM
If #120 was "hacked" then certainly it would be showing on sites like this, now wouldn't it?  Why do you think that 17s2b9ksz5y7abUm92cHwG8jEPCzK3dLnT (the address) isn't visible in a browser search then? ;)

Because not all pages indexed by google.


Title: Re: All puzzles already haked .. !!!!!!
Post by: COBRAS on September 01, 2021, 06:00:16 PM
-snip-
You can check the puzzle's outputs here:
  • blockstream.info/tx/08389f34c98c606322740c0be6a7125d9860bb8d5cb182c02f98461e5fa6cd15 (https://blockstream.info/tx/08389f34c98c606322740c0be6a7125d9860bb8d5cb182c02f98461e5fa6cd15)
  • or here: blockchain.com/btc/tx/08389f34c98c606322740c0be6a7125d9860bb8d5cb182c02f98461e5fa6cd15 (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/08389f34c98c606322740c0be6a7125d9860bb8d5cb182c02f98461e5fa6cd15)
The second link has visual indicator if the output is unspent/spent (Green=unspent | Red= spent)

Proof a exmple what no page with priv key in range 120 bit on  https://hashkeys.club ? They find all range - from start ... to ... end!!!
Are you saying that puzzle 120's private key can't be found in that range, so the private key is "haked"?

If so, that's not how it works.
It's most likely that the private key of puzzle 120 is not within that range, it's an actual puzzle with a solution or it's just simply randomly generated;
who knows.

I was verify some privkeys all was valid... not random generated.


Title: Re: All puzzles already haked .. !!!!!!
Post by: _Counselor on September 01, 2021, 06:25:34 PM
I was verify some privkeys all was valid... not random generated.

Take a look here - https://privatekeys.pw/keys/bitcoin/2573157538607026564968244111304175730063056983979442319613448069811514699875
the whole bitcoin was hacked!


Title: Re: All puzzles already haked .. !!!!!!
Post by: NotATether on September 02, 2021, 07:58:28 AM
If #120 was "hacked" then certainly it would be showing on sites like this, now wouldn't it?  Why do you think that 17s2b9ksz5y7abUm92cHwG8jEPCzK3dLnT (the address) isn't visible in a browser search then? ;)

Because not all pages indexed by google.

That's because the pages are autogenerated and not "static", so Google sees it as only one page.

In this URL: https://hashkeys.club/120/?page=664613997892457936451903530140173

Google only parses the text before the bolded part. It does not know there is a page= parameter.


Title: Re: All puzzles already haked .. !!!!!!
Post by: vjudeu on September 02, 2021, 11:06:54 AM
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Because not all pages indexed by google.
Indexing all pages is impossible, there are too many keys, even if it would be something like ".../page/123".


Title: Re: All puzzles already haked .. !!!!!!
Post by: pooya87 on September 02, 2021, 12:24:48 PM
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Because not all pages indexed by google.
Indexing all pages is impossible, there are too many keys, even if it would be something like ".../page/123".
There are NO pages to be indexed.
Think of these websites as your PC or phone's calculator. A calculator can perform basic arithmetic on any two numbers but it hasn't stored all those values, it computes all on demand. Same as these scam websites, they generate the keys in the range specified by the parameters given in the URI on demand exactly like a calculator.


Title: Re: All puzzles already haked .. !!!!!!
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on September 02, 2021, 07:28:10 PM
The page after the question mark in the url is a parameter. It doesn't have all those pages saved, because that would be infeasible. You choose the page and it calculates you the analogous keys at the same time. It hadn't generated them before you did.

It'd be the same thing if instead of ?page=, it was ?key=. Still, it couldn't have saved all the 115792089237316195423570985008687907852837564279074904382605163141518161494336 keys; the key would be a parameter.


Title: Re: All puzzles already haked .. !!!!!!
Post by: garlonicon on September 03, 2021, 04:39:42 AM
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There are NO pages to be indexed.
Yes, but by writing URL in a different way, it is possible to index some pages. There is no way for a bot to tell apart "topic/12345" from some forum page and "keys/12345" from that kind of calculator. For example, try searching "site:https://privatekeys.pw/keys/bitcoin/", you will see that some pages are indexed.


Title: Re: All puzzles already haked .. !!!!!!
Post by: ABCbits on September 03, 2021, 09:40:32 AM
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There are NO pages to be indexed.
Yes, but by writing URL in a different way, it is possible to index some pages. There is no way for a bot to tell apart "topic/12345" from some forum page and "keys/12345" from that kind of calculator. For example, try searching "site:https://privatekeys.pw/keys/bitcoin/", you will see that some pages are indexed.

"Some pages"? "Very few" might be more accurate since there's no way bot will index all of them. If the public key/address generated on server side, the server will crash or block the bot. But if the public key/address generated on client side, the bot will eventually crash, ran out of space or simply stop indexing the website (due to certain predetermined limit).