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Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: GreatArkansas on September 03, 2021, 08:34:25 AM
Not all undervalued altcoins these days are good to invest, most of the scam altcoins got a low market cap these days, I believe above 50% of altcoins these days are scams, so most of them are sitting on a low marketcap.

So, in short, there is more risk for me on low market caps and how will you identify if a coin is undervalued? what is your basis?
But I don't discourage finding a gem and investing into it, it is good too, and that's the start for being a rich, starting from the bottom.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: Teknisi88 on September 03, 2021, 09:16:17 AM
They want the baby gains. Invest 1000 into ethereum for a chance to make 50 lousy bucks a month.

They do not want to invest in the heavily undervalued, newer projects that could make them rich.

I made a thread about a crypto gem called oneledger here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352752.0

when it was only $0.008

Then it later went up to 0.02432

now sitting at about $0.02

nobody wants to listen to this stuff. They said they'd rather invest into ethereum...


Investors should continue to invest in stocks, with more emphasis on undervalued sectors (stocks with a value below their fundamentals).
This bullish stock market is battling every imaginable risk in the midst of this pandemic, and analysts continue to believe that the stock market's bullish trend with the least resistance is increasing.
In the midst of growing concerns about the bubble phenomenon, these wealthy investors said that their investment risk tolerance had increased significantly in the first quarter of 2021 and the majority expected stocks in the first quarter of 2021 to pay off.
However, this stock market bullish trend is considered to require some changes in the investment portfolio with a greater focus on stock sectors that are still undervalued.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: so98nn on September 04, 2021, 04:53:53 AM
There are many examples like this but when it comes to investing your hard earned money you can not force anyone to invest into something. The main reason is way simpler, people want to put few bucks and turn it into giant gain quickly, they don’t wanna wait. In addition to this there are also people who wish to invest money for longer period of time but they do not want it to be risked on “unknown” or “newbie” projects.

Now that you have shown this project, peeps might go and invest into it because it has “proven” then point that it’s best in terms of market cap and other investors are there to back it up.

This is how crypto investment cycle works really.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on September 04, 2021, 06:36:05 AM
nobody wants to listen to this stuff. They said they'd rather invest into ethereum...
Of course not all have the means to risk their money for something that is new or especially risky. Altcoins are good money maker but of course we need to consider the potential loss too. Not all can earned big with their prospect altcoin, worse they got loss and panic eventually leading to selling at a loss. So this is not a general view for everyone. Some have their own pick and some not.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: bussybuddy on September 04, 2021, 07:06:49 AM
Can you figure out what the difference is?
Accepting investment in more decentralized things may look like you are seeing the current profits, but I do not find it convincing enough, even if it has a stronger price increase than that, the limit in thinking showed the difference. We will never be the same because the goal and view of this market assessment is also very different, I will still accept to buy $50 ETH and wait until I achieve the profit I want. And then you will realize later that you just want to go back to buying btc eth in the first place :)


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: bitkanu on September 04, 2021, 09:21:50 AM
I don't wanna listen to your thread coz i have participated on start atlast FTX IEO. So which was better? I have made 152x ROI since ico in a few days only from star atlas and im not counting my POLIS in this case.
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
People have different opinion about this but i rarely listen to the others but i have invested in some good coins in the past caused by some peole were making the thread about that.
people are free to decide what they wanna try to do with it.

I thought that you would not be surprised that even when ethereum reach this price and they keep saying it as a good investment caused by people didn't wanna take the risk.
that's why they will always try to mention investing into the top project but once top project reach over valued zone and it will not profitable anymore for the little shrimp



Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: tabas on September 04, 2021, 09:31:14 AM
It is because Ethereum is established and if you invest $1000 on it, it doesn't mean that you'll make $50 a month or even higher than your invest.
It's still depending how the market looks day by day and how much you've put into it, there's volatility and that's why it fluctuates.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: amishmanish on September 04, 2021, 09:41:42 AM
Projects like OLT/ULT/XLT/ZLT keep coming and going. These are nothing to put too much attention on, least of all your money. If you want to gather people who will follow such projects for you then offer them free tokens and give some incentive to build on the platform. Otherwise, nobody needs another "transaction" platform.

Apart from that, the audit link on CMC is not working and it sure is not Hacken. So instead of making these stupid posts about returns, give one good reason that why we need another blockchain platform when there already are several other, established ones, with low fees too?


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: smyslov on September 04, 2021, 09:52:37 AM
They want the baby gains. Invest 1000 into ethereum for a chance to make 50 lousy bucks a month.

They do not want to invest in the heavily undervalued, newer projects that could make them rich.

I made a thread about a crypto gem called oneledger here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352752.0

when it was only $0.008

Then it later went up to 0.02432

now sitting at about $0.02

nobody wants to listen to this stuff. They said they'd rather invest into ethereum...


People want sustainability and long term profit, there are so many coins especially new coins that get a pump into their development stage only to weaken as it progresses, Ethereum is a very stable coin if you are just starting out and looking for reliable and low-risk investment Bitcoin and Ethereum are two of the coins that can give you that, so no need to blame investors majority of them want stability in their investment.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: Bitcoin Seller on September 05, 2021, 05:05:26 AM
When you have 100$ and invest them in something risky you are not so scared and nervous, but when you invest 1000$ you want to save them, as a result you choose something more reliable. I don’t think that it is wise to focus only on Bitcoin or Ethereum as they are good in the long-term, but if you have some time to investigate projects, you had better pay some attention to new projects and invest a small part of your capital in these projects as well.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: OrangeII on September 05, 2021, 06:01:49 AM
it's not what you think. people not only invest in ethereum, but also in several other coins. apart from that, I think everyone has also done their own research on their coin targets and I feel that they also benefited greatly from that.

the coin you mentioned may go up, and you say that they have made a small profit from choosing another coin. however, we never know the condition of the coin price. I'm pretty sure that the conditions would be different if the price of the coin you mentioned was lower than the previous price.

Besides, people choose top altcoins to avoid big risks. maybe choose a low price coin, it can make a big profit when the price goes up. it's the same as meme coin. however, I think, the risk is also greater than choosing a top altcoin. I only respect other people's choices. maybe they worked hard for it. even if they get a small profit, at least gratitude for it can make them happy.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: Natsuu on September 05, 2021, 06:07:44 AM
They want the baby gains. Invest 1000 into ethereum for a chance to make 50 lousy bucks a month.

They do not want to invest in the heavily undervalued, newer projects that could make them rich.

I made a thread about a crypto gem called oneledger here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352752.0

when it was only $0.008

Then it later went up to 0.02432

now sitting at about $0.02

nobody wants to listen to this stuff. They said they'd rather invest into ethereum...

First, let me congratulate you for making a great vision on how that crypto gem will end up.

But the thing is, people in crypto will not just trust a single unkown person just because he is determined about something. You need to have credibility for people to trust you. And now, you gained some credibility as your vision is correct. Though it is a long road if you really want to continue making this precise predictions.

Also, there are a lot of people in here who already invested in undervalued crypto and ended up in a major loss, so you can't just blame them for having a trust issue with this coins, and stick up with coins who are less risky


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: bayudndy on September 05, 2021, 06:14:59 AM
They want the baby gains. Invest 1000 into ethereum for a chance to make 50 lousy bucks a month.

They do not want to invest in the heavily undervalued, newer projects that could make them rich.

I made a thread about a crypto gem called oneledger here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352752.0

when it was only $0.008

Then it later went up to 0.02432

now sitting at about $0.02

nobody wants to listen to this stuff. They said they'd rather invest into ethereum...


You need to rethink the problem, no matter how much money is not as important as being clear and understanding what you are doing with that investment. You may see it grow well in a short period of time, but others also see a return on their investment on their plan. Different approaches, as well as different goals, we cannot impose our thoughts on someone because there is no one method that works for all, it is good for you but not necessarily good for everyone.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: TheMimic1 on September 05, 2021, 07:40:06 AM
It's easier said than done, investing in top altcoins like ETH and BNB gives peace of mind more than new altcoins most especially if you are new to crypto, new coins are high risk investment and not everyone are ready for a long term hold, I invested in a coins at 0.5$ and it made it to 30$ and I sold, later it goes up to 40$ and my friends were like oh you sold too soon you will miss out, now this coin is at 10$ lol


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: iTradeChips on September 05, 2021, 07:48:56 AM
The only problem with your argument is that you assume that all the startups are good investments to begin with. We can never tell which will be good ones and which will be bad ones in the first place. Of course many people will argue you have to research, you have to look deeper. Look we are not sages so researching will only help in checking if the project is legit or a scam, not a guarantee if it will give you the riches that you desire. Also, $0.02 coming from a $.008 investment is small change for those who invest in small amounts. Someone invested 100 dollars will get 250 dollars once $0.02 price steps in. And you cannot be rich with just 250 dollars. That is why investing in startups can be interesting but also risky.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: yazher on September 05, 2021, 08:40:12 AM
It is easy to show results later but difficult to convey confidence first, no one should listen to other people's financial advice but do the research and find the insights to choose how to invest.

It's too difficult to convince people especially when they came from an investment that broke their heart. What I meant about this, we have some people out there who hold altcoins for years but ended up losing everything because it didn't get to what they have expected. this is really hard since the crypto industry shows new investment opportunities almost every year. From ICO to NFT and the next year would another thing again. I think for the new altcoin, it's better to choose those who will launch their project after few months you invested rather than waiting for years because what will gonna happen in the future might close every opportunity with the current project you invested in your money with. 


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: michellee on September 05, 2021, 08:45:21 AM
Every person has their own choice for investing in crypto, and I am sure they will research before investing in one or more new projects. We talk about a new project that we do not know if has a bright future or just follows the current trend. People do not want to just invest in undervalued projects because it is hard to know the project's future so most of them invest in projects with a good history, such as ethereum, bnb, or the other coins/tokens. But if they somehow can find interesting info and convince them that the project will be worth it in the future, they will invest in it and even invest in big money. You can not just say that the project is undervalued but you need to think about the competition in the market and it is hard to compete with the other project.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: amishmanish on September 05, 2021, 01:16:38 PM
Projects like OLT/ULT/XLT/ZLT keep coming and going. These are nothing to put too much attention on, least of all your money. If you want to gather people who will follow such projects for you then offer them free tokens and give some incentive to build on the platform. Otherwise, nobody needs another "transaction" platform.

Apart from that, the audit link on CMC is not working and it sure is not Hacken. So instead of making these stupid posts about returns, give one good reason that why we need another blockchain platform when there already are several other, established ones, with low fees too?

Here are a few interesting snippets from this article https://support.bityard.com/hc/en-us/articles/360040793632-What-Is-OneLedger-OLT-
Quote

What Makes OneLedger Unique?
--snip--
Because of this interoperability, OneLedger has attracted the bit partners like IBM and Google Cloud and talks with Canadian and Caribbean governments.
This is the exact kind of bullshit that becomes a big red flags for shitcoins. What exactly do you mean by a Google Cloud partnership. Similar posts have been made on the very isolated reddit of this project as far back as 2 yrs ago. Just because you can launch a node using the Google cloud marketplace does not mean that there is a "partnership".

I have no idea if you are a team member or just some useful idiot trying to earn tokens in their telegram group, but this is not what a partnership looks like. Not one legitimate website has this same information. Its just a bunch of obscure websites and blogs which are repeating verbatim these lines about OLT. Has it been a real partnership, it would have been in mainstream media. (Not Coindesk and other crypto publications). Even coindesk is well known for promoting all sorts of scam articles.

So stop this stupidity about partnerships.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: Pelana vreo on September 05, 2021, 03:32:06 PM
They want the baby gains. Invest 1000 into ethereum for a chance to make 50 lousy bucks a month.

They do not want to invest in the heavily undervalued, newer projects that could make them rich.

I made a thread about a crypto gem called oneledger here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352752.0

when it was only $0.008

Then it later went up to 0.02432

now sitting at about $0.02

nobody wants to listen to this stuff. They said they'd rather invest into ethereum...



I saw the chart on cmc, this altcoin has not yet reached ATH, even when in 2019, the price reached 0.05 and now you have increased but have not reached the initial price when listing on CMC, actually there are many projects, but no one knows if it's a new coin it will have a high price and return to the presale price. btw do you know how much the presale price of this coin


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: trauchot on September 05, 2021, 03:54:05 PM
The fact is that most of the cryptocurrency projects that have appeared recently are scammers who want to get money from cryptocurrency investors and that's all and because of this it is very risky to invest in new projects, of course, there are also a lot of top new cryptocurrency projects, but its not easy to find a good crypto project and that's why many cryptocurrency investors prefer to invest in proven top cryptocurrencies like Ethereum or Bitcoin, and in general, everyone has their own ways of investing in cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: ali1177 on September 05, 2021, 04:20:07 PM
Totally agree with you nobody talks about where we should invest money for huge gain almost everyone talks about invest in big project but the bad thing is they don't give huge return.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: Cling18 on September 05, 2021, 04:36:17 PM
The huge risk could gain huge profit as well and that's how it goes when we invest in new projects. We can't blame investors who are afraid to take risks because based on what we experienced before, new projects usually fail unless we see their complete potential. People nowadays rely on top and stable coins when it comes to bigger investments because they have seen how they developed for years.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: Jackl87 on September 05, 2021, 05:51:28 PM
They want the baby gains. Invest 1000 into ethereum for a chance to make 50 lousy bucks a month.

They do not want to invest in the heavily undervalued, newer projects that could make them rich.

I made a thread about a crypto gem called oneledger here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352752.0


I would guess that your post is just an attempt to shill a coin to us where you hold a bag of in order to pump its price, but i will give you the benefit of the doubt and i will bite. Yes it is definitely true that you most likely won't see another 50x if you invest into ethereum now because it is already to big to do that, but it also is a pretty safe investment at least in comparison to other crypto project. If we take a look at the project that you recommended for example than it is maybe possible that it does a 50x but it is also possible that it goes down 99%.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: BAGOBO on September 05, 2021, 06:47:43 PM
Everyone has concerns about losses so it is more feasible for top coins than new coins, they think to have a definite profit even if it is small, we are very diverse with different ways of thinking and different levels of analysis but should not force others to follow our signals, just give the best advice to anyone but provide a guarantee signal you will get high profits.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: pjwaffle on September 14, 2021, 12:32:53 AM
Yes what you said I admit that is partly true but most of the projects that are small and have low total supply of liquidity are usually scam projects, all experienced and long-term investors do not participate on such high-risk projects that they will choose long-term and thriving projects.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: velosepur on September 14, 2021, 05:10:32 PM
Every kind of investing have risk. So same is with crypto. Many projects in last few years failed, some of them was scam. Way to success and profit is hard and risky always. Only we can do it educating, research and getting all possible details we can before put money is any project. That is how this works.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: wxa7115 on September 14, 2021, 05:39:19 PM
They want the baby gains. Invest 1000 into ethereum for a chance to make 50 lousy bucks a month.

They do not want to invest in the heavily undervalued, newer projects that could make them rich.

I made a thread about a crypto gem called oneledger here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352752.0

when it was only $0.008

Then it later went up to 0.02432

now sitting at about $0.02

nobody wants to listen to this stuff. They said they'd rather invest into ethereum...


But you are only speaking of one side of the coin, it is true that you can obtain profits with projects that have not garnered the interest from the community and that the profits that you can get are better than whatever any of the top coins can give you, what you are forgetting is that the vast majority of the coins in which you can invest your money will produce gigantic losses and that the chances that this occurs is many times higher than the chances that you have of investing in the right coin at the right time.

So I think it is completely natural that people do not want to listen to you even if you are right because they have seen hundreds of people before you claiming the same and the vast majority of them failed.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: Shallow on September 14, 2021, 05:48:33 PM
How many of those undervalued projects are standing the test of time? By answering this question you will understand why a lot of people have little to no faith in most of these undervalued projects. Most gets funds through private sale or public sale or even both and yet they struggle to keep afloat a good development stand, some even finds it difficult listing on good exchanges and gradually some even exit scam and all whatnot.
However, I understand your point of view, getting involved with these undervalued projects is good as it opens up a good opportunity to make good gains, at the same time, you can't blame anyone for taking and making their own investment decisions. .
Lastly, have you realized that even when a lot of people invests in these undervalued projects, when they get their targets they exit and still buy more of Ethereum or Bitcoin or other top coins; everything comes down to personal decisions.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: Coyster on September 14, 2021, 05:50:29 PM
nobody wants to listen to this stuff. They said they'd rather invest into ethereum...
Of course, it's much better to invest in ethereum than in one pump and dump shitcoin or the other, the thing with pump and dump coins is that the speed with which they pump, is the same way they dump, and if you're unlucky you'll be caught on the receiving end and lose all your funds, thus it's much better to invest in eth and Bitcoin than these sort of coins you're shilling here, quite a lot of investors have made the mistake of looking for quick profits with such undervalued coins only to make zero ROI in the end.

Bitcoin and maybe ethereum (cause the eth ecosystem is developing pretty fast) are both long term projects, and investors who do their own research and are not in the network basically just to get rich quick will always choose them first, it's better to wait for profits in the long run than go for short term profits that more often than not wouldn't come.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: isaac_clarke22 on September 14, 2021, 08:02:35 PM
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Because most of newer project tend to get dumped and it loses value the day after it just gets listed in its exchange. You can't blame these people including me. Back when I was day trading, I thought that those that were in top 10 coins in CMC or CoinGecko remained but I was proven wrong. I couldn't count how much changes happened in the ranking and I am not even sure if those coins that went below the top 10 still have any value (excluding stablecoins).


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: blockman on September 15, 2021, 10:06:41 AM
I have heard of this project years ago. Those who were able to invest after its drop from ATH and then saw the profit these days, you don't have to think a lot for it but it's time for you to start selling it. The chart of it shows that there's still quite of a volume but I'm not impressed with its wavy chart. Well OP if you've made huge profit on it then that's a good thing and congratulations to you but that doesn't mean that if you did, everyone will too.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: danherbias07 on September 15, 2021, 10:17:38 AM
I can say you did a good choice there but I hope it was not compare with Ethereum. Better with other altcoins that really ruined their opportunity to have a valued market but ended up as scams with just millions of dollars take away. They didn't even realize they could make multi billions out of the cryptocurrency market.
Ethereum on the other hand was a good investment choice last year. It was not just 50 bucks but $3000 up if you bought at the same month and day last year @$340 - 350 per Ethereum.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: ethereumhunter on September 15, 2021, 01:59:10 PM
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Well, you can hold on tight your choice since many people will search for the other coins or tokens. Most of them are invest in bitcoin and then the next coins to be their secondary investment. Some of them were invest in undervalued project but they will research first before decide so even if you say that OneLedger is good, people will find out what is the project and not following you without research. We will invest in the project that we think that will increase higher in the future but we can not force people to follow us.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: jostorres on September 15, 2021, 06:56:55 PM
They want the baby gains. Invest 1000 into ethereum for a chance to make 50 lousy bucks a month.

They do not want to invest in the heavily undervalued, newer projects that could make them rich.

I made a thread about a crypto gem called oneledger here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352752.0

when it was only $0.008

Then it later went up to 0.02432

now sitting at about $0.02

nobody wants to listen to this stuff. They said they'd rather invest into ethereum...
We shouldn’t blame people for making such decisions. Moreover there are now lots of fake coins in the market, so people are trying to avoid such coins where they will end up losing their money. So, that’s why you are going to see a lot of people these days they would rather invest in just Bitcoin and ethereum and avoid other cryptocurrencies, they are just trying to play it safe.

And there have been lots of new coins that we see these days, at first they seem to be really good and as time goes on they end up becoming something else. Some of them are even used for pumping and dumping.  But it's not bad that you said it, at least I know that there are people who would have listened to you then and have invested in that coin.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: zonefloor on September 15, 2021, 11:08:10 PM
There are hundreds of examples like this in the cryptocurrency market. But just because one of them did so, all projects should not be viewed this way. In the current process, many cryptocurrencies have been released as a complete scam. They completely aim to sell their projects to you by inflating them, and then they take the money in your hands by throwing rugpull. You are waiting with the hope that maybe it will rise with the crypto money that has remained worthless. I strongly recommend that you do your research many times before investing.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: Ozero on November 05, 2021, 03:04:42 PM
They want the baby gains. Invest 1000 into ethereum for a chance to make 50 lousy bucks a month.

They do not want to invest in the heavily undervalued, newer projects that could make them rich.

I made a thread about a crypto gem called oneledger here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352752.0

when it was only $0.008

Then it later went up to 0.02432

now sitting at about $0.02

nobody wants to listen to this stuff. They said they'd rather invest into ethereum...


I still prefer to invest in such reliable coins as ethereum and be guaranteed to receive a small income from retention, than to invest in risky little-known cryptocurrencies and constantly get nervous at the thought that my investments can disappear at any time along with these cryptocurrencies. By the way, last year I bought several ethereum coins at a price of $ 230 and at the current price of this coin of $ 4450 I do not consider such an investment to be a low-profit investment at all.


Title: Re: They do not want the great riches...
Post by: bamb on November 05, 2021, 04:23:32 PM
Why should I risk my bitcoin and ether for your shitty project just because you gave unsolicited financial advice. If you are okay with a shitcoin that could disappear anytime does not mean everyone is cool with that. If you made, that is just luck, such profit is not sustainable and people want sustainable project that will not leave them in rain!