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I have spent time to read about Bitcoin trading, hence want to comprehend how it influence and overwhelm The market in this forum.as a newbie who's interested and curious about Bitcoin trading, eager to be impacted with knowledge from my superiors (legendary and hero members etc)

If bitcoin trading(or trading in general) was possible without chances of loss, then literally everyone would be doing it. There's a reason why it isn't heavily recommended for the masses— simply because the chances of losses are huge especially for the beginners.

Yes, you can most definitely significantly decrease the chances of you losing money, but even the best of the best traders have losses. Losses is simply something that will always be in the picture; it's just that you need to have a lot more wins than losses in the end.

First off just because someone is a Legendary or Hero member it does NOT mean that they know what they're talking about.  The truth is the majority of people here have no clue what they are talking about, so take everything you read with a grain of salt and always do your own homework !  ( That doesn't mean there aren't plenty of of knowledgeable people here though, don't get me wrong).

That being said, no..there is no way to trade bitcoin without the possibility of loss.  There is no such thing as trading without the possibility of loss, and don't let anyone tell you any different.  Also, is trading right for you? Trading is not right for the majority of people.  You need to make sure you already have a sound portfolio in place, on track for retirement etc..then once that is all in place, and you have some extra money you can afford to lose, then maybe trading can make sense.  Still for most people the best thing is to simply buy and hold.

No-loss trading is possible depending on the type of trade. In the spot market, losses are divided into 2 categories, namely realized losses and unrealized (floating) losses. You can keep your losses from being realized when your P&L indicator is minus, meaning that you need to change the trading period when it occurs. However, that does not mean you do not lose anything (especially a matter of time).

I welcome to the forum, and you are in the right forum.

You don't need to tell us your boss or any nickname. We are all the same to learn and exchange thoughts, ideas and share knowledge. Whether it's a problem or a solution, we will all try to give each other input.
Your interest is very good, so you have a lot of questions that you want to convey. Let's share with each other.

I think any kind of trade can cost someone, even in Bitcoin. As long as you know there is no continuous profitable trade, at least having a loss cannot be separated from it all. Bitcoin trading can be profitable if one can at least know the time when he should open a position and when he should release a position. Mastering a minimum of basic trading strategies. I believe you already know it all because you have a lot of reading resources that you can get out there.

Trust me, no Bitcoin trader is 100% profitable without losing once...

if you are a new player in the trading world and also do not have knowledge of the history of the Bitcoin price then I suggest not to expect much you can profit on your first trade unless you are lucky. one of the habits of newbies who are just trying to trade in bitcoin is to have a 'weak hand', they will immediately panic sell when the bitcoin price drops.

First of all this thread should be moved to “Trading Discussion” thread.

Coming to the topic, it’s impossible to do trading without getting any loses.
Whenever you invest in any business there is equal risk of lose and both profit.
Same happen withe BTC trading also.
If you choose the wrong time or wrong coin, then ultimately you will face losses only.
Choosing a right coin and correct time to sell it can reduce the risk of losses.
Hope this helps you OP now.

It's impossible that you won't be lost in trading without knowledge you can't make a single penny.
Since you are a newbie I would suggest you do some research and study trading first before you enter in trading.


There are some good sources of learning about trading from fundamental to technical analysis.
Here check this link below

- https://github.com/SpiralDevelopment/Awesome-Crypto-Trading

And then use a trading simulator that you can find on that link then apply what you learn from guides that you read from that link.
You don't need to pay to learn that link is enough to gain knowledge about trading.

You could always give it a go without actually spending anything, be it on paper, or using any one of the  Demo Trading Platforms  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5354815.0) available for Spot (no way you should really get too acquainted with margin trading until you cover spot, it at all). A prerequisite nevertheless should be to become familiar with the terms, concepts, risks, pitfalls, safety nets and so forth you should have likely covered before hand, lest you want to go full random savage. Even so, stats here and there render poor results for the vast majority of trading beginners.

Trading is a risk.
Sometimes you lose, other times you win. But in all, skill and knowledge matters more.
Knowing when to trade and when not to, the best time to buy and sell. Also you could try learn some strategies that concern trading

Bitcoin trading means buying and selling of bitcoin with the goal of making profits. The bitcoin market is somewhat volatile. So people take advantage of this to make some good profits. But trading is no easy job. It has its own risks. The riskier your trades are, the higher will be your profit. So you will have to know what you are doing. Make one mistake, and then you will end up with losing everything. You WILL be making losses when you trade. If there were ways to trade without making any loss at all, everyone would just be trading.

Trading is not easy and most of traders don't make money but they make loses. The percent of traders who end with loses from crypto trading is higher than general tradings.

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If you are a good trader, you will say I win even if you complete your trades with a draw because saving and protecting your capital is a success.

Having losses in trading is normal mate it's part of the game wherein even experts can experience such things, but you know enough knowledge can reduce loss in trading and you can maintain your win rate. So if you really want to become a trader must educate your self first and watch some step by step tutorial around the internet how to use tools in trading that can help you to read the chart , indeed all of information how trading really works were already in Internet so just put time and efforts if you really want to become a good trader.

Experience matters in trading. It’s hard to determine whether we're good or not if we will not do it. There is a need to risk and sometimes to put too much effort to learn but sure it will be worth it if we put ourselves into it. We will experience a lot but it doesn't mean that it will be the end we can still trade as long as we master it provided we don't risk too much amount especially if we know we're still in the beginner's phase.

There’s no such thing about loss-free trading on Bitcoin and cryptocurrency. Just like in stocks, the prices are subject to volatility and there are no astronomical guaranteed returns. It’s healthy for Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies to experience declines from time to time. Wins and losses are part of the game right here in the crypto space.

Expect the losses.
But you can prevent and minimize the losses if you have good risk management. How to do it? Study, practice, and have a commitment. Trading is not difficult, it involves time and MONEY so you should be careful and dedicated when you start trading, a lot of newbies started to trade but didn't able to stay for weeks, months. So, learning the basics first then slowly going into the above basics will help you to minimize your losses in trading and maximize the profits.

What you can do is having money management and also trading jurnal, this is important because you can review all trade you done, so you can minimize the lose and determine the next step, please if you are novice trader don't think that trading is an activity to make money without ever experiencing a loss, that's very impossible

Well without losses you certainly would profit, that's pretty obvious, but that isn't trading imo since trading involves the process of both losing and earning money. A trade without losing money isn't a trade, I'd reckon it's much closer to a scam imo, so better run away from those types of offers. Bitcoin trading is pretty much just like any other type of trading/investment out there, it requires time, patience, experience and luck for you to profit. Taking care of what positions to take and when to enter and exit are some of the simple moves you need to make. It's rather easy to say really, but really hard to do.

Your curiosity had led you to the right corner where you can learn what you intend. My biggest advise for you as a life trader is never to be too curious to make money in trading. This is the mistake most newbies had made that had led them to end their interest in becoming a trader due to much loses they had made due to impatient.
Prepare your mind and be ready to learn. Get the best physical or online learning centers to get a good skill in trading that could get you far to your expectations.

Bitcoin trading or the trading itself requires a lot of qualification not just only know the coin, this required knowledge regarding the technical indicators, analysts, market graph, news and another factor that might affect the coin also it's the market volatility. It's the misconceptions of the newbie regarding trading, they think it's just only for the prediction of the market movement but no. You cannot make a trade and looks like 99% win of your trades there's a red day in trading every mistake you made there's a lesson and it's better learned and deal with it. Try to make a demo trade after you understand the concept and back to real-world trading. Not only do legendary members understand the trading even newbie ranks too, but rank here also does not define the experience in trading.

In the cryptocurrency market, no one can trade without losing trades. Therefore, not only beginners lose money, but also those traders who have been trading for a long time. The main thing in trading is to have more profitable trades than unprofitable ones, so that in total you get a profit.

Trading with having a lost, that's never going to happen. Even the most patient and calm holder still incur losses as he holds. If you're not yet prepared to take a risk, you shouldn't be trading bitcoin. But as a newbie, there's a good start that you're asking and educate more of yourself about the risk bitcoin has. It's very volatile as its normal character so you should be aware of it because thinking of not having a lose, you'll literally lose because of the fluctuations, as long as you're not selling at loss, you won't be in loss.

Because the main reason is having an unpredictable market when we talk about cryptocurrency trading.  Even how expert you are in trading, there will be a chance that you made mistake by a single decision or every action you take. So therefore in trading, there's no expert as we call most of the time, sometimes they can minimize losses through their strategies but that doesn't mean there's a massive gain or infinite profit in trading.

If you're afraid to have losses in trading I suggest having a long-term investment is the best for you, after purchase just hold and never sell until it didn't reach your targeted profit.

When you are eager to start trading, exactly, understanding at first what you want to do is very essential. In this case, understanding at first about Bitcoin (and cryptocurrency generally), and also about trading.
Actually, there are many sources from trusted YouTube and websites on the ways to trade. And every exchange will also provide the ways of trading.
There are also several types of trading that you should know. And as a beginner, I will suggest you learn from spot trading.

No guarantees. This is the basic that you must remember, trading will not guarantee you to always take profits or win. Trading always involves risks, and one of the risks is loss. Even a professional trader, sometimes, he will also lose in trading. So, never think that trading Bitcoin is always taking profits.
But, if you want to do fewer risks, holding Bitcoin may be fewer risks. And you can still hold your BTC if the price is still low and then take the profits when the price has reached the price that you target. But once more, no guarantee, imo.

Zero loss?

This do only happen on your dreams but not on reality because trading is something involved with lots of losses and gains and this is why you do engage on this market just for the sake of earning profit

and thinking off about volatility then this is the primary reason on why you do neither experience losses or profits.This is why you should really do all sorts of things to make yourself as a better trader.

Making yourself sustainable despite of the risk involved and don't think or stress yourself on having perfect trades because it wont happen.Thing here is that you should always mind on how to become
sustainable and ending up on profits in the end of the day.

Basically Bitcoin trading, not much different from what you do/trade outside/real world, apart from analysis, charts, predictions etc, you buy and sell.

Some people who trade daily/hourly/weekly and monthly, generally a lot are done long term, but if you are expert and have knowledge about online crypto trading, it can be done based on hourly and daily crypto market developments.

Loss or profit it's all you control, can't guarantee someone involved in crypto trading loses and gains, it's all based on the trading skills you have, you're smart you win, you don't know you lose, that's a trading method, important knowledge.

Trading can be learned and anytime you can google it and a lot of resources will come out. But trading with losses is inevitable. Even if you got a lot of experiences, either you're a hero or a legend in it, losing your money will never be impossible.

That is why traders are advise to trade only an amount they can afford to lose. Because if you trade with higher amount, the risk becomes higher too, and so you will also lose a huge amount. But if you trade with a minimal amount, your profits might be smaller, but in times you lose it will not be that huge too.

A trader will get a loss someday because the trader can not always take profit, even in bitcoin. But what makes it different is that a good trader can change the situation by recovering their losses and learning more about trading. You only need to learn how to be a good trader, make a profit, and control your emotion because, in trading, you will face many things that can make your emotion or tension or pressure high. If you lose, you will have a good lesson to analyze why you lose to improve your skills in the next trading.

This is 100% true and it is even more true when we are talking about leverage trading as well. There are so many people who think that the money that can be made from bitcoin is long gone and you can make only a small amount of profit from bitcoin trading regularly, just buy and selling it could make you limited amount of money, so the best way to make money is to risk even more and do leverage trading. They are wrong, you could still make a great return on crypto, the bottom and the top of this year is more than 2x so you could still make a ton of money.

However leverage trading is obviously more profitable when you are right, but when you are wrong then you do not lose just a small amount, you lose everything and that is the most important part of the deal, you lose everything you put in. Always be careful when trading in crypto, you could lose more than you anticipated.

Losses will be very possible when it comes to bitcoin trading even how good or expert you are. The good traders may overcome from committing losses often but still, they end up losing somehow. Because if trading does not incur losses most often, then everyone will focus on it rather than simply investing and holding. But it will not be that way. The more you get knowledgeable and skilled in trading, the higher chances that you will make profits than losing your capital. But even how often you make profits, expect that you will also lose sometimes because bitcoin trading is just between losing your money or winning your profits. If you lose, the other trader wins profits too.

People that think they can enter a market which is incredibly competitive and never lose are delusional, we just need to take a look at whatever is your favorite sport and you will see players with amazing skills and yet they lose all the time.

The moment someone accepts to enter a competition they need to accept the fact they will lose once in a while, at the end of the day what matters is how much money ends up being on your pocket and if you happen to lose a few times to get there then it does not matter.

Trading is basically predicting the future and there are many people who argue about the fact that is gambling or not, but never the less it requires skill and a lot of experience, an experience that comes from losing over and over until you find the one that profits you, and if trading had never any losses than everyone on earth would quit there join and start trading but that does not mean that you can not find a balance between making profits and recovering or learning from your losses.

if you can trade well then of course you will get a profit. but for beginners, of course, failure is a natural thing and we cannot blame it too much. we must be able to rise and learn from the mistakes that have been accepted. failure does not mean finished, we can still fix it and be more careful in the future. just follow the flow and you will get your own passion in trading, all that takes time and also a process.

I think it's impossible to be profitable in BTC trading without experiencing losses because it's a skill that can only be built by years of trading experience and learning from numerous losses. Just like what most people say "If you win, you earned a profit, and If you lose, you learn from it". Trading is simple but it's not easy.

That means you did not read the necessary writing. Because if you did you would not be asking this question.

If you having zero prior experience in stock markets and other speculative asset trading, you should refrain from bitcoin trading at the start. Learn how the blockchain works and how to secure your wallets before starting trading.

The "Marketplace" in this forum is usually for goods and services. Currency exchanging also happens but not trading per se.

What I said above, dont jump into trading because there will be losses and profits. In the starting usually losses are more than profits. Try dummy trading on paper first for at least six months before putting in real capital.

A good trader will have a chance to overcome their problem, especially if they got losses from the last trade and they can turn it to make a profit from the next trading. That will not be easy because that will need more experience to analyze the coin and find the increase. Trading will need you to learn more as the market will always move without us know so without having the right knowledge about trading. And if we lose today, we can make a profit in the next day and the important thing is we do not have to give up because of our losses today.

Trading bitcoin is not just about numbers,  it is important to understand  the underlined idea behind bitcoin,  you can then position yourself to make most of opportunities that will be presented to you by volatility of Cryptocurrency market!  Every time there is a dump,  fear,  rumors,  negative news, etc most experienced traders know that these are opportunities for lower entry and good position for future profits!

The ever-changing market makes us have to monitor the market often. No matter how great our analytical skills are, we will definitely experience
losses when trading Bitcoin. Likewise for experienced traders it is impossible to profit without experiencing losses. In fact, losses are experienced
by all traders, all we need is to minimize the losses we experience, and maximize the profits we generate. As long as we don't give up and always
correct our mistakes when trading, then I believe the amount of profit we generate will be greater than the losses we experience. I agree with you,
when we lose today, we can profit the next day. So if we experience losses, don't panic, because that's not the end of everything. We can still make
a profit as long as we do the analysis correctly.

The key here is not to panic, always try with the next trade, and not give up if we lose this day. Yes, it is hard as we see the market will always change every day and we must analyze using many ways, but that is worth doing, especially if we want to profit from the market. Every trader should face a loss but they can make a profit in the next day so as long as we can learn more about trading and still searching for the right coins, I am sure we can make a profit and no matter if the profit is small, one day we will make a big profit.

Exactly, it is as they say 'buy when there's blood in the streets'. This is the attitude smart investors are taking and it is imperative that in order to survive the volatility market, users with a long-term plan in mind need to adjust the same strategies.

FUD is always around but when it becomes such that it impacts the market greatly, it is time to consider buying in because the. market will eventually recover!

You are right, although I have always thought that despite everything BTC can go down a lot in price, but in one way or another it will recover and quickly, so it will produce bullish surprises, this is what makes everything different from the stock market, because BTC never disappoints, when BTC falls in price all the enemies of BTC come out saying that the bubble burst, that it died and a series of news that long ago FUD, this is part of the story, but those who are very intelligent They know that when these events occur, it is best to buy in the dip, this is the best advantage the market has, and its recovery is very fast, so investing in BTC is one of the ones that offers the most benefits in the short and medium term. The secret of BTC investment is knowing how to be patient, not despair and try to ignore bad news about BTC, I think that is where the success of successful BTC investment starts.

Losing in trading is always possible same with investing. Because sometimes everything is not going to happen according to what we plan, because crypto is always moving up and down and many trader cannot control their emotions when market will having a huge dip which lead them to loss their fucos and make a change of plan that is why sometimes they loss.

For me not only don't panic the key to trading success, but we have to be patient and wait for the Bitcoin price to reach the target we want.
Sometimes Bitcoin moves not according to our predictions,  when that happens don't panic and be patient waiting for the Bitcoin price to return
to the direction we want. Because the price of Bitcoin is volatile, the movement is difficult to predict, sometimes there is a sudden correction,
but it can also happen that the price of Bitcoin suddenly rises. But as long as we don't panic and can be patient, then the profit will come by itself.

It is impossible that something like that exists because that will require that you have a system that can predict exactly what is going the market to do before it actually happens, and you will need to have a very accurate crystal ball because no one can do that, if people want to trade then they need to have realistic expectations about what they can achieve with a trading system.

They need to recognize that by definition trading includes a significant amount of risk they are going to lose their money, so only those that are willing to take that risk responsibly should trade, unfortunately the majority of the people do not really fit that definition, and despite all of this they still trade with abysmal results.

remember bitcoin has high volatility, bitcoin was created not to fully experience increases but also decreases. here professional traders all over the world are bound to lose, but they can handle bitcoin well and manage risk well. so in my opinion it is impossible if bitcoin trading does not suffer losses

Understand that most of trading are what you teach yourself and not only what you read on YouTube.. You must have to teach yourself after having the basic knowledge through seminar or other means, those are the basic. You then have to move out of that training to have your own understanding of the situations of market. The two major factors that push market are fundamental and technical. Focus more on the technical aspect of trading, those are the charts.

"High Volatility" - My ass.
https://t3index.com/indices/bit-vol/
https://www.buybitcoinworldwide.com/volatility-index/

Now dont tell me you cant read the charts above. As long it remains below 10%, it is not "high" volatility. It has been like this for ages unless some millionaire crazy person comes in to social media to brag about it when the volatility becomes crazy. Other times like this, it remains in this range below even 5%.

It is a speculative asset, it will have increase and decrease.

True, one will suffer losses when trading a speculative asset class but this does not mean that trading itself is a loss of money. For someone who knows how to read charts, they can predict and place orders to juggle between support and resistance levels. By doing this they can cycle money through the bear and bull cycle in turn crunching out a profit.

You are also right and I agree with you. When we have experienced being involved in the crypto world, we will know that many people will act like a blown whistle and poison other to leave the crypto and sell their coins at a loss and do not look back. Those people can use the moment to buy so many potential coins when the price jumps down without any problem. I am sure by learning more about crypto, we will know what we need to do when the market goes to some point and we will not be afraid or worry if the price is suddenly going down because we always believe that in the end, the price will be back to the high price.

Do not panic will be the key and I think that it works in any field or business. If we can stay calm, I am sure we will see a clue behind everything that happens to the market and who knows, we can see a golden moment that many people can not see. If bitcoin moves are out of our expectations, we can leave it for a while and do some analysis to know more info and if we can not get the info, maybe leaving the market will be better to calm down. The price correction will always happen and we already know about that so we do not have to panic.

True, one will suffer losses when trading a speculative asset class but this does not mean that trading itself is a loss of money. For someone who knows how to read charts, they can predict and place orders to juggle between support and resistance levels. By doing this they can cycle money through the bear and bull cycle in turn crunching out a profit.
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which in essence whatever the current market conditions, using technical analysis and fundamental knowledge will provide benefits at every momentum. A professional trader will read the charts easily and determine when to enter and when to exit. But even so, no prediction or chart reading is 100% correct, there will be some errors and some losses. Profit is something that is always desired but loss is something that cannot be avoided. profit and loss is normal.

However those increases and decreases do not really exist outside of crypto vacuum. Sure in a regular day it is not really that volatile, it is quite mellow and it doesn't really have anything at all and it could be considered nearly stable. However the reality is that we are talking about something that could be very very risky when there are huge movements, those "famous person tweets about it" is just way too big to ignore.

I have seen it go from 52k to 42k in under an hour (regrouped at 47k) just a few weeks ago, it hasn't recovered too much since and dropped back to 42k but that 10k drop was in under one hour. That should show you what it means to be volatile and that is why I doubt that bitcoin would ever be considered a riskless trading asset. I would be basically a very scared person when trading here, doesn't mean you shouldn't be trading, it just means the profits are higher and loses are higher as well.

Trading Btc or any other crypto is volatile trading. It is not true to say that one always gains in crypto trading. They must have experienced loss. But from this loss there will be a lot of learning to be able to take attitudes and future actions. No pain No Gain, the motto of traders around me.

If everyone started profiting then there must be some sorta magical money tree blessing the money out of no where!

Well, never forget this: If you are profiting it means someone is buying at the prices at which you are selling yours. This is how the trading market flows. The money does not just appears out of nowhere or disappears in the process. If you open up any trading chart on platform then notice the buy-sell changes which decides the price of coin on live basis.

You better know how the market works really and then jump in with the investment plan. Because sometimes you are the buyer when someone already bought it at much lesser price in the past and now whose selling to you!

Losses are also inevitable in bitcoin trading, even professionals are losing too. Just think of this, if you are a good trader and happens to make profits at the end of the day, i guess the other trader too lose somehow. It's just when one trader gains profits, the other one losses his expected profits. I think the crypto market has learned to balance itself. Bitcoin trading has definitely its high risk, but if you know how to manage the risk, you may start minimizing your losses and end up gaining a lot of profits.

Trading is incomplete without the word loss even if you talk about bitcoin trading also.Similar to short term traders and leverage traders who lost billions in hoard of panic sell and price dips or say position liquidation.How come you think any successful trader has byepass loss by losing simply less than they could if they are not aware of the the market circumstances.So avoid any such thoughts and do wise trading.

Believe it or not many people do not have any idea of how the markets work and by talking to them they seem to have this idea that money is going to appear magically on their accounts, I know it sounds ridiculous but that is the way many people think.

There is a reason exchanges are called exchanges, for a person to be able to buy a coin then someone else needs to be willing to sell, and both people are thinking they are taking the right decision, one is selling because they think the price is going down while the one buying does so because they believe the price is going up, and only those that are able to outsmart their opponents have any chance of becoming profitable, and in order to be capable of that a great deal of knowledge and experience is needed, and yet newbies think that just by being part of the market they will not only win but win big and this is a huge mistake.

The point is that we tend to focus more on the news of when those famous manipulators move in on the price. It is a normal occurrence to see big spikes at times but these dont happen everyday. What I am trying to say is that the number of times when the market remains under less than +/- 5% is way more than the number of spectacular events, making the latter even out the percentage rise or fall. Most of the times, the volatility remains less than 10-15%.

Bitcoin is never a riskless asset. Volatility is not the only factor to determine risk. We have governments not being lenient about crypto, we have exchanges getting hacked every few months, unregulated manipulated - all these are risk factors that increase the total risk of bitcoin trading. Indeed we tend to focus more on metrics like volatility index, but these should be kept in mind as well.

Totally agreed on that.

Bitcoin market is very volatile and this .makes losses a part of the business. As a newbie to trading you still need to get well rooted on how each candle is formed and how different factors affect the flow of price both in bullish and bearish trends. Trading isn't like gambling you need lots of analysis to make an entry point in trading . For now focus more on the knowledge

Bitcoin without losses is impossible, even a professional trader has experienced losses. What can be done is that you must be able to maintain profits often and only suffer losses a little. This may be difficult but learn from the mistakes you have made before, try to do some analysis of the things that make you lose then solve them and don't repeat them. don't forget to activate stop loss because this is also an important component when you trade.

This is what the newbies are missing out. They think that we put our money in and made so much profit that somehow crypto is "get rich quick and easily" type of deal. Only scams can guarantee you that you can get rich quick and safely, nothing in this world and I mean NOTHING in the world could make you rich without risk. They just don't know it because they have seen plenty of people turning few tens of thousands into millions of dollars.

I had a friend who turned 16 thousand dollars into 1.2 million dollars just last year, not because he was smart or he knew what he was doing, he got into some staking coin on nearly the first time it crashed, something that was a thousand turned into 100, and everyone got out from fear but this dude got in instead, then it was both staking and then turned to be 10k dollars at the top, between how much he staked for months and months on high APR and the insane returns he got, he became rich.

Was this riskless? Dude got in literally the moment when everyone got out, it could have been zero all we knew, but he did it, I made a good 4x on the same token as well but I was too late and didn't made anything remotely as much as him.

You have to put your hands in trading whether paying or free, you have to eliminate zero ignorance by yourself and also always carry mistrust as the main daily premise in trading, you cannot be following the advice of others without having a minimum idea of what they tell you, and you can't even follow the recommended investments of those who claim to be experienced trader, when we are in the bitcoin trade, it is common to make mistakes.

Then when you start to make your own movements you realize that more time is spent in the recovery zone. Losses in trading are so normal that sometimes even having a day with few losses it is a positive way to increase your earnings at the end of the month.

Well because the price of the crypto market is unpredictable and no one knows about it.
It is normal that you have experiences losses but as long as you can avoid the losing streak that could be wipe out your entire balance in trading. The problem in trading is people have a lack of idea in crypto they did not fully understand how it will work and it is not easy to make money, especially in trading. Loss is a part of a game that you should avoid it as long as you can.

Even if you avoid losses as much as you can, but then the market crash all of a sudden so you still end up in losses. This scenario will always be in the picture because of market's high volatility. The only thing you should do is learn to be more skillful and be equipped with strategies that will definitely work on you. In this way, you can maximize your profits, leaving your losses in a minimal amount. Once you're a trader, you will realized that there is more profits on it than simply holding, but losing some of your funds will always be in the picture and that's definitely inevitable.

Without having to lose it is impossible, even professional traders had experienced certain losses on their way, it's like a process to profit. Moreover, from there, we can have some experience to move better until we find the best strategy due to the stronger our insight into price movements or market trends.
Bitcoin is more dominant for long-term investments, Bitcoin trading requires more detailed observation with discipline and is very close to risk.

It is never possible to trade without loss because you will not always be able to do accurate analysis when it comes to trading analysis. Most people make mistakes when it comes to trading but it is very difficult to get accurate statistics because there are so many sectors of trading, now when it comes to bitcoin trading, it can be said that bitcoin trading is much easier than other trades. Bitcoin trading is much more profitable than other trades but bitcoin trading is often a matter of time before you can make a certain investment every day.

You give at the point, when we get losses the key is to know why it was lost, some believe that the losses are a cause for shame, but of course when we know why we lost we have more knowledge and that can reduce the rate of losses. Sometimes there are losses that we cannot avoid, such as those that certain fundamentals can give, however in every trader there must be gains and losses, what must be taken into account is that the gains must be greater than the losses, if there is such a Probability is that things are going well.

Most of the time the volatility has nothing to do with the number of losses you can have but it has a lot to do with the magnitude of the losses if you do not use a stop loss.

Trading without ever losing is impossible because of the unpredictability of the markets, just as there is a lot of traders which believe the price will go up there are many which believe the opposite, in order to never experiment a loss a person will need to accurately predict the reactions of millions of traders in real time and then take a decision almost immediately, something which is not realistic at all.

Not only crypto trading but also all types of Physical Trading you can not earn profit persistently in a row. You must have to lose some time. But at the end of some days or month you can see you are in profit. But you change your winning ratio of profit to higher by with your experience. Experience is play a big role of getting profit in crypto trading. :)

Cryptocurrency trading cannot be a win-win. But every trader strives to ensure that there are more profitable trades than unprofitable ones. Therefore, special attention should be paid to the trader in order to reduce losses. If you learn this, you will definitely trade with profit.

And even you do accurate analysis.

You're still likely to lose with some unexpected news that will come and it will be against your analysis. Even the best of the traders, they're also having some problems with the market that makes them incur losses.

Trading with a high percentage of win rates in trades is better to hear and as well as low percentage of losses.

Trading with profits will always be a way better than trading with frequent losses. But bitcoin trading with no losses will always be unrealistic. Because no matter how good or expert you are in trading or in any aspects in life, you will never make it perfect. And its fine, because that will be your motivation to always do better in the future. Although there are more losses in trading more particularly with newbies, but believe me the profits you'll gain will always be worth it and rewarding.

From you conclusion you have also accepted the point the Legendary you were trying to attack despite the fact that you denied that action in your submission but everyone here know that you were actually talking about the legendary that was the first to reply OP. Buy and hold for a while and later sell at profit that not trading if I may ask please. If you accept that fact then one can trade Bitcoin without a tendency of losing.

Just because you can't avoid the losses when trading doesn't mean you should intentionally lose your trade. The losses should be as a result of issues not under your control like market volatility and change of price movement due to certain developments etc.

Every trader should always trade to profit, outsmarting the market should be the goals that every trade you go into should be in attempt to profit and when that's not happening, you should give yourself a break and try out other means of profiting from the industry. Trading isn't for everyone as there's more to just buying and selling of coins on the exchange.

You have to be willing to dedicate time and money into perfecting the skills of trading. The experience also has its part to play. It doesn't matter how many times you lose but your losses shoudn't outshine your profit meaning you should be trading within minimum risk that if the trades doesn't go as planned you don't go into losses that you can't recover from.

It is unreal.

Every trader has their share of experiences with losses and a trader that has no loss, it's probably not a real trader because we all knew how trading works.

And you can't avoid losses.

Even an experienced trader who are in it for years and years must have been through losses. Yes, so its really natural for beginners. Trading is subject to risks lets say. Even traders in stock market go through all these wins and losses. Accept it and learn technical indicators moves and their meaning. Besides these, be updated with market updates. Invest less in the beginning and learn the market.

Indeed.

A trader, even by profession, can't avoid dealing with losses and it's already part of trading. You don't gain anything if you don't learn to how to deal with losses or if can't accept them.

We have to accept it as a reality that you'll have losses no matter what and how good you are in trading.

Yes you're right. But in my opinion anyone who wants to make money from trading then definitely he should be ready to accept losses which might be happening time to time but keeping your losses at the minimum level is fully depending on your skill levels.

This means you cannot ignore losses completely but you can keep it at minimum level which means you can make more profits than your losses. This is how anyone can be profitable in bitcoin trading even among small losses.

In trading, even anything that promises profit certainly has a risk of loss, it is very worth it.
So, to just take profits without wanting to experience losses, of course you must have good trading knowledge which must be learned first before starting to trade. although the possibility is small without experiencing a loss but the possibility is still there.
and back again to the crypto market that you must understand, here price movements are very fast, both high and low prices, therefore all possibilities come quickly. you have to be ready for it all.

Losses is actually what makes the business unique to those who can manage their greed appetite. You can't trade crypto and expect to dwell in consistent profit. If it was too easy then any one could just venture into it and the whole system would be abused. The losses is what brings out the passion from traders

Am still a newbie here but from the little experience am having I don't think is possible to trade without any lost, so you have to make sure your profit is far more than your lost and you also have to always minimize your lost but you shouldn't be expecting profit always definitely lost will also come, that's what some people don't understand in trading most expecially newbies they believe if they can just buy bitcon they are already in profit which is not possible there is always profit and there is always lost.

Don't rely on the ranks of the users, some users here are professional trader but have newbie or lower accounts. It is not possible to trade Bitcoin without losing since the market is volatile and we really not sure what will happen in the future it is part of trading but there are many things you can do to reduce your lose, such as risk reward ratio and stop loss.

I think it is possible to trade Bitcoin without losing but it is through Arbitrage trading, not quite sure how does it work exactly but you can try to look online or on YouTube about it.

Yes it can be if you are trading with the only aim of not losing the trade and its pretty much successful when you are a long term trader. More often you are trading then you are increasing the risk and also the profit making chances depends on your trading skills.

in a trade, especially daily trading, of course, we rarely find people who can continue to profit without loss. even though a professional trader, of course, has experienced a loss. but they can control themselves by minimizing losses by cutting loss in the area they have determined, so that between profit and loss can be structured

There is no trading that does not bare risk, in as much as trading is involved,there must be risk,therefore,there is risk involved in Bitcoin trading too,it is not an exception.
But the rate of the risk depends on the type of trading you do.If it is daily trading, then the risk is higher than that of the long term which is holding.In holding,the risk is very small.
Bitcoin trading as to do with the buying and selling of coins,either for a short term or a long term.

There are ways too many people who never heard of bitcointalk and still made millions on crypto as well. I have a few friends like that, they did not know what bitcointalk was and they made a good return from their investments as well. I am not saying that it is easy to make a million dollars or you do not need bitcointalk neither, it just could happen.

Bitcointalk is a very famous forum and there are millions going back and forth here constantly each month, we have so many bounties and so many ads and so forth that it is definitely something 1+ million dollars changing hands here, so it is a great forum. However just because it is a great place doesn't mean that we can't make a profit by never looking at here neither, you could make a great profit by just focusing on learning how to trade and then you can use what you learned without looking here.

It is hard to prevent the loss in daily trading because we will see the price will be up and down, making it hard to determine which coin we need to trade or analyze. But a pro trader will not lose their money in trading because they know how to prevent the big loss by using their skills. The pro trader can still get lost in their trading, but their loss will not too big depend on the other trader. If you want to try bitcoin trading, you can buy and keep your bitcoin for a while and sell it in the next few days when the price increase.

Bitcoin or cryptocurrency trading is not an easy type of business for anyone to venture into.
This is something that requires a heavy hard work before you can talk about being successful in it.

By the time you get better in it, it’s no longer going to be a stress for you and won’t be difficult any longer since you have gotten better and can easily make the decision that are correct in the market without much hassle. Don’t forget that there are so many things that you can do to profit from the market, however the market is going to benefit you just go for it that way and keep doing whatever will work for you.

True, no doubt a loss is the event that makes a person rethink and reconsider their approach. In any aspect of life, a loss is a point of learning. In speculative asset classes, losses are a part of the game, it can either that you are not suited for trading or that you made a mistake that could be corrected. I fear that many users may actually fall in the first category and speculative assets are not for everyone.

Definitely, if there was a method to abusively make profits, those profits would be too small because the latter is not a possible scenario. One can win a 1.01x bet several times but that does not mean that the time spent on that is worth it.

Eventually we all need to take some risks. Consistent profits is not possible in trading if each amount is significant, so dont go after chasing that.

This forum members definitely could guide you toward an effective way of learning but that is only up to some level and your success is depending on how efficiently you are going to make use of those guidelines. I am seeing a lot of people are asking help in this forum but I'm not sure how many of them are consistently making profits from crypto trading.

Because, basically learning is much easier one but practically when you're applying your knowledge, you must need to be more smart so that it could make the right decision at right time which is not that much simpler one unlike how it sounds.

Just imagine the world of trading without the risk of losing. What would happen? Everyone would be rich in no time!
Every action you do in your real life have the risk behind it and so does trading. If trading had no risk then people would just jump into trading scene and expect to be rich instantly.

There is no way to get profit in trading without having losses, it's not just losing money but your energy, your internet data and etc.
Even the experienced traders are still getting losses there and there so don't expect people to tell you about no-risk method of getting money on trading.

Most of the time people dream of having this perfect opportunity that gives them great profits and no chance of losing and while that sounds good it is simply not realistic, most of the time whatever choice that we take has drawbacks, if there are people out there that do not want to invest in bitcoin and instead do so in something that gives them like 1% profits per year then they know their money is safe but they will never earn something substantial from their capital, for those that choose to invest in bitcoin the profit can be great but the losses can be just as big, so at the end people need to decide which benefits and drawback they wish to accept and for most people in the forum we accept the ups and downs that come from investing in bitcoin.

There's no such trading that is entirely loss free and that's why it is referred to as a risk.
Nevertheless, this loses can be curtailed to the minimum..  Some steps are;
1. Do not be a victim of FUD(fear, uncertainty and doubt) and
 FOMO(fear of missing out).
2. Trade within your means.
3. Set clear and achievable goals.
4. HODL for longer period of time.
5. Analyse opportunities.

Lastly, nobody's advice is better than you taking out your own research and drawing to your own conclusions.
The future cannot be predicted.