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Title: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Rruchi man on September 13, 2021, 01:24:21 PM
On the notification panel of my android device and that of many other devices of people in my locale that i have come across, I noticed too many pop up ads about one gambling site or the other, which with a click, you will find yourself in the interface of an online casino or betting site asking for you to sign up and get huge bonuses, I also observed that when using the chrome browser on my cell phone to surf some websites on the internet, I am forcefully redirected to some gambling and betting websites that opens up on the tab as well.

I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.

https://www.roulettesites.org/blog/responsible-gambling/underage-gambling.php

Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?






Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Beparanf on September 13, 2021, 01:29:49 PM
IMHO, Ads popping on android device or even on google is a targeted ads which means you will never receive it unless you are browsing same website or anything about gambling which an underage user that doesn't visit gambling will never receive that kind of ads if they never play gambling on there device.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: mu_enrico on September 13, 2021, 01:48:49 PM
What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?
KYC, but they can still use fake ID or their brothers/parents' ID, so there's no 100% effective method. Even with video verification, they can pass with fake ID + rather old face.
I think we have to live with it, same case with beer and cigarette, it's up to the parents to teach/monitor their children. Teens have this unstoppable curiosity, and it's not fair to put the burden on the casino.

As long as the advertisement is for 18+ (late night or via google/youtube age verification) and KYC, I don't think there's more to do.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Furious 7 on September 13, 2021, 01:58:17 PM
By browsing the internet now with ease even this can be done by anyone so there is no 100% good solution in this case except the war of parental influence is also important if you want to take part in this section, almost all minors have held android phones and of course they will receive a notification from the browser at least there is a gambling ad that allows it to be clicked later.
So by minimizing the occurrence for minors, I think KYC is still quite effective, although now it can be faked, but I believe this will reduce the increase in underage gamblers.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: zanezane on September 13, 2021, 02:12:05 PM
It's the parents that should be the first line of defense when it comes to this kind of stuff, they're the closest to the kid so that means that they can monitor what they do, some might say that you're invading their privacy but it's a good parenting to monitor their online activities because you want what's best for them.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: chaser15 on September 13, 2021, 02:35:56 PM
Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

Why its look like end up to you that gambling companies should take the blame?

Gambling is part of the society we lived in. You are looking for solutions that can't be control unless the whole country banned gambling. Advertisements are also everywhere so we can't control it.

Just raise awareness about gambling on your known underage people or if you see someone got involved in gambling in early age.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Yogee on September 13, 2021, 02:58:53 PM
... What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

You either lock them up in the house without exposure to TV and devices with access to the internet or don't give them any money. It sounds extreme but I really do not see other ways to prevent someone from gambling. You can educate them about the risks of gambling but most of them will still gamble online or offline anyway.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Tumanggor on September 13, 2021, 03:28:18 PM
It's the parents that should be the first line of defense when it comes to this kind of stuff, they're the closest to the kid so that means that they can monitor what they do, some might say that you're invading their privacy but it's a good parenting to monitor their online activities because you want what's best for them.
The majority of parents nowadays are too busy working and don't care about their children's online activities
things like this have been discussed before and to be honest I agree with gambling sites that require KYC (if their goal is to control gamblers at a young age)

Becoming a gambling addict at a young age will hinder the study of these children, so those who have children immediately supervise your child's daily activities, especially their smartphone that you give


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: fiulpro on September 13, 2021, 03:33:37 PM
They have to understand the fact that it's not just the responsibility of parents but the site as well, but the site cannot really ask people about their personal information since this would actually cause more probelms, they would actually cause a probelm with their privacy settings. See the solution is everyone working together and also teaching the kids about the whole thing for sure, If you do see your kid having a gambling probelm, then you talk about it, you take them to psychiatrists, it's should never be taken lightly for sure, it can spoil their life forever in the future.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: finaleshot2016 on September 13, 2021, 03:35:28 PM
On the notification panel of my android device and that of many other devices of people in my locale that i have come across, I noticed too many pop up ads about one gambling site or the other, which with a click, you will find yourself in the interface of an online casino or betting site asking for you to sign up and get huge bonuses, I also observed that when using the chrome browser on my cell phone to surf some websites on the internet, I am forcefully redirected to some gambling and betting websites that opens up on the tab as well.
No worries about it, because the reason why ads about gambling are the one shows on your screen is because it uses the data of your browsers. So the thing you must worry about is not to use a kids devices for gambling so it will not show any gambling ads. Probably that ads will show to a child is all about toys and things about kids.

It's very concerning and parents should be responsible on those devices if ever they're gambling, so the child can't get any idea what is gambling through ads.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: rhomelmabini on September 13, 2021, 03:37:41 PM
IMHO, Ads popping on android device or even on google is a targeted ads which means you will never receive it unless you are browsing same website or anything about gambling which an underage user that doesn't visit gambling will never receive that kind of ads if they never play gambling on there device.
Exactly. Facebook, Youtube, search engines on your mobile phones have the same algorithm and that's a fact. If an underage is too concerned about the mobile gaming things then the stuff they'll be seeing was more onto gamings or other stuff they recently viewed or looked for. Unless there's a scenario where a child use to borrow the phone of the parent and they are that into gambling, that's a different thing and that should be guided.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: ryzaadit on September 13, 2021, 03:40:00 PM
KYC solution but people hate KYC ~XD.

There is no solution anymore for this topic except of "KYC", always ask KYC before they can use/play/deposit some money. That's the only way to know, anyway about underage gamble. IMO, most of them will play on game gamble website like (CSGO/DOTA) it's pretty rare for user who just 14/15/16 using credit card/crypto or deposit bank to be gamble.

CSGO Gamble could be have the higher chance for underage trying to gamble his skin and turnout into a money, since CSGO streamer sometimes promoted CSGO gamble website.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: KTChampions on September 13, 2021, 03:44:23 PM
"On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog"  :D
I think that this problem cannot be solved without total surveillance of users - this option is unacceptable, so the old proven option remains - this is the concern of the parents. Both by law and by common sense, parents are responsible for their children, so they must solve this problem.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: qwertyup23 on September 13, 2021, 03:57:01 PM
What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

Though this may backfire on the side of the online gambling website, submitting/requiring KYC documents during the registration is one way in order to combat online underaged gamblers. But then again, most people avoid gambling websites that require KYC and this would definitely take a toll on the player base of a gambling website, thus, I do not see this happening in the near future.

"On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog"  :D
I think that this problem cannot be solved without total surveillance of users - this option is unacceptable, so the old proven option remains - this is the concern of the parents. Both by law and by common sense, parents are responsible for their children, so they must solve this problem.

I agree with your statement. I think the curiosity of a child does wonders but they must be properly guided and briefed by their parents about gambling and its potential harm to one's future.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: TimeTeller on September 13, 2021, 05:26:15 PM
What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

Though this may backfire on the side of the online gambling website, submitting/requiring KYC documents during the registration is one way in order to combat online underaged gamblers. But then again, most people avoid gambling websites that require KYC and this would definitely take a toll on the player base of a gambling website, thus, I do not see this happening in the near future.

"On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog"  :D
I think that this problem cannot be solved without total surveillance of users - this option is unacceptable, so the old proven option remains - this is the concern of the parents. Both by law and by common sense, parents are responsible for their children, so they must solve this problem.

I agree with your statement. I think the curiosity of a child does wonders but they must be properly guided and briefed by their parents about gambling and its potential harm to one's future.

Most fiat-based casinos if not all, require KYC from their players. Unless, the kid uses his parents' credit/debit cards to get in.
So this problem maybe more on crypto casinos since they are not requiring KYC as of now.
Aside from the fact that crypto is getting popular these days owed also to Play-to-Earn games.
More than likely, some underaged users/gamers will encounter these P2E gaming platforms and so these crypto casinos.
But as you said, the child has always curiosity on these things, and the upbringing will come into play in these crucial stages of the child.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Kittygalore on September 13, 2021, 05:38:35 PM
IMHO, Ads popping on android device or even on google is a targeted ads which means you will never receive it unless you are browsing same website or anything about gambling which an underage user that doesn't visit gambling will never receive that kind of ads if they never play gambling on there device.
Adblocking and ad appropriation isn't the first line of defense for children being introduced to gambling, it's the parents that should be the first line of defense, they're the one that should guide them since they can see what their kid does first hand.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: avikz on September 13, 2021, 05:50:28 PM
Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?


Underage gambling is a real issue! I am sure even gambling houses do not pay much attention because it is a source of revenue for them. With cryptocurrency, it has become even more easier for the underage gamblers to play in online casinos because they do not require to share kyc data.

There is no immediate solution available from technical viewpoint. Parental monitoring softwares can be a possible solution but there are ways to bypass them as well. Children who are gambling at young age, would know how to bypass them. So it boils down the responsibility to their parents who needs to be vigilant about their children's online activities.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: nelson4lov on September 13, 2021, 05:53:29 PM
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Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?


Saying gambling sites should "fully" checkmate underage players and I can't help but wonder how they'd be able to do that. Even with strict KYC, it's near possible to completely prevent such from happening as young, underage people will still patronize those platforms at the end of the day. What we need is proper orientation on the risks and dangers that comes with gambling for underage. Maybe incorporating it in school curriculum would go a long way but not completely eradicate the problem.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Renampun on September 13, 2021, 06:03:16 PM
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Saying gambling sites should "fully" checkmate underage players and I can't help but wonder how they'd be able to do that. Even with strict KYC, it's near possible to completely prevent such from happening as young, underage people will still patronize those platforms at the end of the day. What we need is proper orientation on the risks and dangers that comes with gambling for underage. Maybe incorporating it in school curriculum would go a long way but not completely eradicate the problem.
I don't think it's a good idea, let the existing curriculum run as usual...

What I'm afraid of is that when education about the dangers of gambling is included in the learning curriculum, children become more and more curious about gambling. around my home, there are very few minors who play gambling because they are busy playing online games. Keeping kids busy with their games is probably the best way to keep them away from gambling.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: uneng on September 13, 2021, 06:38:43 PM
I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.
I would like to see a real case of 11 years old kid gambling. It seems really unlikely for me. Maybe these statistics are mixing gambling at casinos and friendly "betting" with friends or relatives at home or school. The second situation isn't an issue at all and there is no way to avoid underage people to bet in some events of their daily routine for fun. I remember when I was at middle school students organized a betting pool in the world cup results and we bet small amounts of money just for fun. Would we also be included in these statistics and punished by the law?

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?
It's parents' duty to take care the mental health of their children. If they are showing symptoms of addiction, parents must identify the cause of the problem and fight it back. But the rest of the world can't forbid an activity from being advertised just because few individuals can't handle it properly.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Mahanton on September 13, 2021, 06:46:06 PM
What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

I could say that this kind of problem is somewhat cant really be resolved nor get rid of it due to the technology that we do have today.This is something that cant really be stopped completely but somehow it could be able
to be controlled via some programs or even just simply inside on the house where you do really give out awareness into your children about the risk of getting addicted to gambling and with this alone then you
can at least somehow stop out for your children on getting engage with gambling and getting addicted at least but it is actually on someones personal take as they gets older.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: chaser15 on September 13, 2021, 07:49:38 PM
But as you said, the child has always curiosity on these things, and the upbringing will come into play in these crucial stages of the child.

And if stopping them intentionally will take place, it might result for that child to make things secret and private which is far more dangerous in the long-run.

Children nowadays will really encounter the word gambling while they are growing up so let it that way. Advertisers are targeting general people which is just a normal thing to do and that includes being exposed to children.

Just trust our kids that they know what's right or long. It doesn't mean that once a child encounter a gambling ads or any, they will automatically be involved with it.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Fortify on September 13, 2021, 07:59:25 PM
On the notification panel of my android device and that of many other devices of people in my locale that i have come across, I noticed too many pop up ads about one gambling site or the other, which with a click, you will find yourself in the interface of an online casino or betting site asking for you to sign up and get huge bonuses, I also observed that when using the chrome browser on my cell phone to surf some websites on the internet, I am forcefully redirected to some gambling and betting websites that opens up on the tab as well.

I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.

https://www.roulettesites.org/blog/responsible-gambling/underage-gambling.php

Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?


It used to be the case that debit and credit cards were the main means of payment (directly or through intermediary payment processors). Most of the companies running those cards were fairly restrictive about access to under 18 year old's and the world has become a lot more digitized. To the most ruthless of companies it was a goldmine to target this audience, whether getting them cards theoretically controlled by their parents or just getting parent's credit cards to sign up. I don't think that most gambling sites have a problem with this because KYC documentation requirements are pretty intense these days and you'd have to go to some extremes to fake such documentation effectively. However the micro-transactions and loot boxes you find in most games is certain gearing up underage gamers into the same sort of mentality - which can be very damaging long term and wrongly encouraqes the addictive behavior + sunk cost designs.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Fredomago on September 13, 2021, 08:14:55 PM
What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

I could say that this kind of problem is somewhat cant really be resolved nor get rid of it due to the technology that we do have today.This is something that cant really be stopped completely but somehow it could be able
to be controlled via some programs or even just simply inside on the house where you do really give out awareness into your children about the risk of getting addicted to gambling and with this alone then you
can at least somehow stop out for your children on getting engage with gambling and getting addicted at least but it is actually on someones personal take as they gets older.

The influenced of growing technology provides easy access with gambling, it's tough to stop or prevent those young guys to learn more about this activity.

The best way to deal with this is your awareness with your kids. Even the government implements rules. Without your guidance, those kids will always find the way to continue playing once they already have the experienced. Addiction is more prone with young kids, when corruptions inside their minds already penetrate, it's hard to prevent them to resist.

Unless, government will seriuosly interfere  with this kind of business, banning is a good way to stop risking those
kids in terms of early addiction to gambling.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: crzy on September 13, 2021, 08:19:51 PM
What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?
Everything is possible in online world, and it’s too hard now to track the activities of many young people and they are really exposed into this kind of industry and even the government can’t handle this anymore, so I believe this should start from the parents on guiding their own child and educating them about the possible risk of being into gambling, this may not look easy but it can still be stopped. Gambling is not meant for them, their emotions are too weak for this and if they didn’t control themselves anymore, that could be result to a bigger problem.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: stomachgrowls on September 13, 2021, 08:28:02 PM
What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?
Everything is possible in online world, and it’s too hard now to track the activities of many young people and they are really exposed into this kind of industry and even the government can’t handle this anymore, so I believe this should start from the parents on guiding their own child and educating them about the possible risk of being into gambling, this may not look easy but it can still be stopped. Gambling is not meant for them, their emotions are too weak for this and if they didn’t control themselves anymore, that could be result to a bigger problem.
Tracking is the hardest thing because you cant really have your eyes on your children 24/7 which means as long theyre exposed or having their own smartphone or pc then tendency that they would really be exposed into something like this and not only limited on gambling aspect but also in other things as well which underage shouldnt must involved.

The market is gambling is gradually increasing and the demand is there which simply means that it is really making out some effective way of exposure out of those gambling advertisements and other marketing stuff.

This problem cant be resolved for sure but at least there are ways for it to be slow down but totally get rid of it is impossible.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Oshosondy on September 14, 2021, 08:29:20 AM
What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?
Like in my country, the young children are exposed to gambling sites not only on phones but also on TV, like the DSTV and GOTV we watch in my country, you can be on a particular channel which will be advertising online betting platforms, children know more about the internet.

What to be done goes to the parent, everything about their children online activities must be monitored, they should not take this for granted. It also goes to betting agents, making sure the agents do not allow underaged.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 14, 2021, 08:41:28 AM
It's the responsibility of both parent and the gambling site to prevent children from getting into gambling at a really young age, the best thing that we can do is for us to fill our roles to prevent such thing, if you're a parent then it's your role to supervise and monitor your children and what they do online, as a gambling site owner, it's your role to prevent children from getting into the site.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: ipanks on September 14, 2021, 09:53:20 AM
It's the responsibility of both parent and the gambling site to prevent children from getting into gambling at a really young age, the best thing that we can do is for us to fill our roles to prevent such thing, if you're a parent then it's your role to supervise and monitor your children and what they do online, as a gambling site owner, it's your role to prevent children from getting into the site.
If parents can supervise their kids when they are online with their gadgets, their kids will not try to visit unnecessary websites and focus on what they want to do. They will not try playing gambling because their parents have already told them that playing gambling can make them become addicted and can ruin their lives in the short term. The role key of the parents is not easy because they need to guard their children and make sure that they do not break the illegal thing that can drag them anytime.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: bitterguy28 on September 14, 2021, 10:04:18 AM
What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?
Like in my country, the young children are exposed to gambling sites not only on phones but also on TV, like the DSTV and GOTV we watch in my country, you can be on a particular channel which will be advertising online betting platforms, children know more about the internet.
is this for real? a gambling site advertised directly in TV nationwide ? does your government really allows this when the TV shows and Ads must be at least concerned about younger generations?
lucky that my country does not allow this though internet is really a Shit source for children nowadays.
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What to be done goes to the parent, everything about their children online activities must be monitored, they should not take this for granted. It also goes to betting agents, making sure the agents do not allow underaged.
But we parents aren't always there? but of course this  is a task for us parents, limit their tv usage just allow them when we are around with them.

same as the using of internet in which let them access only in our front and turn of the wifi without our presence  .


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: poldanmig on September 14, 2021, 10:04:55 AM
It's the responsibility of both parent and the gambling site to prevent children from getting into gambling at a really young age, the best thing that we can do is for us to fill our roles to prevent such thing, if you're a parent then it's your role to supervise and monitor your children and what they do online, as a gambling site owner, it's your role to prevent children from getting into the site.
In my opinion, parents are currently too busy to take care of their work, so without realizing it, they don't have time to monitor children's behavior, and of course it will have an impact on the psychology of children who are looking for their own character, so that in the end many children end up behaving badly.
Besides,the need for supervision from parents, environmental factors and also children friends become a big influence in shaping children's behavior today.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: lienfaye on September 14, 2021, 10:45:40 AM
On the notification panel of my android device and that of many other devices of people in my locale that i
What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?
This is one of the problem of parents who have a teenager kids like me. Especially now that the new form of studies are through online or modular learning (due to pandemic because face to face classes are prohibited). Which means they need gadgets to communicate with their teachers and be updated of the cuurent lesson. Its inevitable for them to be expose in gambling sites (and also porn sites) because ads can be seen everywhere. The reason why a strict monitoring is needed and as a parent it is our responsibility to guide them and explain everything about these sites which are not for minors.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Jackl87 on September 14, 2021, 10:54:13 AM

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

I don't think that there is a solution to make 100% sure that no underaged can gamble on online casinos. I mean everyone gets asked if you are at least 18 years old (or maybe even oder depending from which country or state you are coming) before you can register at online Casinos. Some of them even require you to do a full KYC. So i don't think that the casinos are the ones to blame. In the end the parents are responsible for their childs and what they are doing with their money.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Taskford on September 14, 2021, 11:04:18 AM

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

I don't think that there is a solution to make 100% sure that no underaged can gamble on online casinos. I mean everyone gets asked if you are at least 18 years old (or maybe even oder depending from which country or state you are coming) before you can register at online Casinos. Some of them even require you to do a full KYC. So i don't think that the casinos are the ones to blame. In the end the parents are responsible for their childs and what they are doing with their money.

The less solution we can do is we shouldn't use their phone to open up any gambling apps or any apps related unto it so that there's no gambling links will pop up and caught their interest to try on. Also we should monitor our underage kids at the end of the day to see on what activities they are on using their devices, from this we can assure a little bit that they are away from gambling.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: KTChampions on September 14, 2021, 11:24:16 AM
Most fiat-based casinos if not all, require KYC from their players. Unless, the kid uses his parents' credit/debit cards to get in.
So this problem maybe more on crypto casinos since they are not requiring KYC as of now.
Aside from the fact that crypto is getting popular these days owed also to Play-to-Earn games.
More than likely, some underaged users/gamers will encounter these P2E gaming platforms and so these crypto casinos.
But as you said, the child has always curiosity on these things, and the upbringing will come into play in these crucial stages of the child.

There are many play-to-earn games outside of the crypto realm - check ebay and other sites for a huge variety of things from games for big bucks. Therefore, children have access to money without even using their parents' cards. Therefore, if you want to protect your children from gambling, you need to do it not at the level of availability of money, but at the level of understanding that this is an unprofitable entertainment, and not a way to earn money.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: ralle14 on September 14, 2021, 03:23:52 PM
Blocking most gambling sites from the service provider is one good way to discourage them and using a VPN would simply put them at risk as gambling sites are very cautious when it comes catching gamblers who break their rules. We could always come up with different solution but like what mu enrico mentioned there's no easy fix to this problem because gambling is also connected to video games and other forms of activity where teenagers still have access on. As much as we want to prevent others from developing gambling addiction there's no way to completely shut gambling down as a whole.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: carlisle1 on September 14, 2021, 03:37:25 PM
Blocking most gambling sites from the service provider is one good way to discourage them and using a VPN would simply put them at risk as gambling sites are very cautious when it comes catching gamblers who break their rules. We could always come up with different solution but like what mu enrico mentioned there's no easy fix to this problem because gambling is also connected to video games and other forms of activity where teenagers still have access on. As much as we want to prevent others from developing gambling addiction there's no way to completely shut gambling down as a whole.


Nothing but banning those gambling sites is the right solution if it's really concerned with underaged gamblers.

Very tough, but it will ensure that the activities of these people are limited, with strict implementations of government rules, it can't be accessed by anyone.
VPN can be the tunnel, but it's risky as you mentioned. Gambling sites are strict with this process good enough to lessen the interest of these minor.

The only thing here is the common interest of these young generations. They can start gambling, even playing their favorite games.
Parents should look at this and not to allow participations of their kids with these kinds of activities. Things will work with the join hands
of the government and the parents, to protect their children from gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Silberman on September 14, 2021, 09:01:24 PM
On the notification panel of my android device and that of many other devices of people in my locale that i have come across, I noticed too many pop up ads about one gambling site or the other, which with a click, you will find yourself in the interface of an online casino or betting site asking for you to sign up and get huge bonuses, I also observed that when using the chrome browser on my cell phone to surf some websites on the internet, I am forcefully redirected to some gambling and betting websites that opens up on the tab as well.

I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.

https://www.roulettesites.org/blog/responsible-gambling/underage-gambling.php

Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?





Personally I think this is on the parents, it is very common in this day and age that parents just give a smartphone to their kids and then they just forget about them, not understanding that they need their guidance and their admonition, it is very easy to set up filters on their computers or their phones that at least filter out the majority of those websites and if you have a chat with your kids about the topic then the problem can be easily solved in just a few minutes but many parents are too lazy to do even that.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Quidat on September 14, 2021, 09:10:30 PM
What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

I could say that this kind of problem is somewhat cant really be resolved nor get rid of it due to the technology that we do have today.This is something that cant really be stopped completely but somehow it could be able
to be controlled via some programs or even just simply inside on the house where you do really give out awareness into your children about the risk of getting addicted to gambling and with this alone then you
can at least somehow stop out for your children on getting engage with gambling and getting addicted at least but it is actually on someones personal take as they gets older.

The influenced of growing technology provides easy access with gambling, it's tough to stop or prevent those young guys to learn more about this activity.

The best way to deal with this is your awareness with your kids. Even the government implements rules. Without your guidance, those kids will always find the way to continue playing once they already have the experienced. Addiction is more prone with young kids, when corruptions inside their minds already penetrate, it's hard to prevent them to resist.

Unless, government will seriuosly interfere  with this kind of business, banning is a good way to stop risking those
kids in terms of early addiction to gambling.

There are no other ways because getting rid of it or simply isnt that possible and this is why we do only need to at least make aware of our children about gambling on this they would
able to know on what are the things that should be done in case they do able to encounter it.This is something a problem that  cant really be resolved nor get rid.
Its true that due to technology nowadays then its really hard for young age to avoid on not to see those things specially if they are really connected to internet from time to time.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Dragonfund on September 14, 2021, 10:26:06 PM
Most of these casinos and gambling pop up advertisements have small user bases at times, they therefore always try to expand the number of players. Ads are meant to be based on user activity, yet I receive them all the time when I don't usually participate. Ita kind of weird that you need to keep skipping them all the time.
Another problem with these casinos and gambling websites is that they will allow underage ones to register even though they are completely aware of their age, they will allow them to make bets, when they lose, they will take the money away, but when they win, it becomes difficult to cash out, that's when they remember user policy.

Well as a parent, if you keep reporting the ads, at a point, they will stop because it's among ads policy not to tailor them to users who don't necessarily need them.

is this for real? a gambling site advertised directly in TV nationwide ? does your government really allows this when the TV shows and Ads must be at least concerned about younger generations?
lucky that my country does not allow this though internet is really a Shit source for children nowadays.
I used DStv and what that young man just pinout is correct, about advertising underage ads are done on TV mostly around the age of 13 and above and a clear warning is always written if parental advice is required.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on September 14, 2021, 10:36:15 PM
On the notification panel of my android device and that of many other devices of people in my locale that i have come across, I noticed too many pop up ads about one gambling site or the other, which with a click, you will find yourself in the interface of an online casino or betting site asking for you to sign up and get huge bonuses, I also observed that when using the chrome browser on my cell phone to surf some websites on the internet, I am forcefully redirected to some gambling and betting websites that opens up on the tab as well.

I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.

https://www.roulettesites.org/blog/responsible-gambling/underage-gambling.php

Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?


In particular, this type of publicity usually appears in any online game, I have a 6-year-old son and when I let him play on my PC, which I am always supervising him, there is a lot of advertising from sites and apart from adult sites, but I have always told him Do not click on those notices, he says that this is publicity, and every time it appears to him it annoys him, because when he is playing he usually interrupts the game, and he removes it himself, closes it, however there is a pop-up blocker and there is a blocker that is similar to YouTube adblocker that is good to place, but I think this is a difficult problem to combat, the best way to combat it is to be supervising everything they do, and I don't let it play anymore of 1 hour, I think that is one of the best ways that can be done to combat this type of problems, I say this as a dad.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Johnyz on September 14, 2021, 10:42:48 PM
If they're gambler at such a young age, they're going to need some government intervention because clearly the parents can't handle the children and guide them towards the right path in life. We need to teach would be parents and even parents that it's okay to monitor online activities of their children so as to prevent them from being introduced in vices that can be harmful to their formative years and can result in having a bad adulthood.
This can only be prevented if the casinos will ask for a KYC which should not be the first option in crypto gambling since we know, we value our identity and we love to stay private but if those underaged gamblers increases, better to implement this one so we can still save their lives even if their parents are not helping at all. This is alarming, gambling will just ruin their life government should do something about it especially now that the world runs most of the time online.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Wawa2013 on September 14, 2021, 10:59:41 PM
On the notification panel of my android device and that of many other devices of people in my locale that i have come across, I noticed too many pop up ads about one gambling site or the other, which with a click, you will find yourself in the interface of an online casino or betting site asking for you to sign up and get huge bonuses, I also observed that when using the chrome browser on my cell phone to surf some websites on the internet, I am forcefully redirected to some gambling and betting websites that opens up on the tab as well.

I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.

https://www.roulettesites.org/blog/responsible-gambling/underage-gambling.php

Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?
In particular, this type of publicity usually appears in any online game, I have a 6-year-old son and when I let him play on my PC, which I am always supervising him, there is a lot of advertising from sites and apart from adult sites, but I have always told him Do not click on those notices, he says that this is publicity, and every time it appears to him it annoys him, because when he is playing he usually interrupts the game, and he removes it himself, closes it, however there is a pop-up blocker and there is a blocker that is similar to YouTube adblocker that is good to place, but I think this is a difficult problem to combat, the best way to combat it is to be supervising everything they do, and I don't let it play anymore of 1 hour, I think that is one of the best ways that can be done to combat this type of problems, I say this as a dad.

I also have children who like to play online games, and indeed I often see advertisements for gambling or porn sites appear. Usually I educate my son
that he is not allowed to open the site, although I noticed he understands what I mean. But still children always have a high curiosity for new things,
so even though I have given education, I'm still worried without my knowledge, he will opening a gambling site or porn site. So I really have to
monitor it closely and also limit the time to play online games, then more directed to do other activities that are more positive. Or I suggest to my child
to prefer offline games. I admit that it is a very difficult task as a parent in technological advances like now, because I can't completely prohibit
my child from using the internet, because I don't want my child to be left behind in technology.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Twinkledoe on September 14, 2021, 11:11:38 PM
If they're gambler at such a young age, they're going to need some government intervention because clearly the parents can't handle the children and guide them towards the right path in life. We need to teach would be parents and even parents that it's okay to monitor online activities of their children so as to prevent them from being introduced in vices that can be harmful to their formative years and can result in having a bad adulthood.
This can only be prevented if the casinos will ask for a KYC which should not be the first option in crypto gambling since we know, we value our identity and we love to stay private but if those underaged gamblers increases, better to implement this one so we can still save their lives even if their parents are not helping at all. This is alarming, gambling will just ruin their life government should do something about it especially now that the world runs most of the time online.

Parents have limitations on how long they can monitor their children. As they can't watch them 24/7, maybe instill to their kids the value of money and be open to discussions like gambling games. Don't be too hard on them when you caught them playing game but be open to discuss things so they will not hide it from you. With this, you will know what extent they are in, if in case they will continue to play.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Rengga Jati on September 14, 2021, 11:18:42 PM
It has been very common, we can see many advertisements about gambling in games, videos, websites, and mostly in online games.
Of course, everyone can see it and many underaged may be interested in that kind of advertisement, you know they always say big won and jackpot, so many people will be attracted to that sweet promises.
But in fact, advertisements will be always advertisements.

Overall, this is the challenge of our era, kids can use gadgets much better than us sometimes. They have their own smartphone moreover during this pandemic, they are always engaged with smartphones where they can connect to any website and YouTube that they want.
And here is the role of parents. We must know what our children are doing, visiting, and also seeing. We may not be able to control and monitor them 24 hours. But at least, we can check them every time we can.
And the most important thing also is paying attention to them, giving more attention and affection to them. And of course, giving them understanding about what sites that they are probably curious to visit. If it is about gambling, tell them about it, about the risks that may be got if they are still kids and playing gambling.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Mahanton on September 14, 2021, 11:51:59 PM
If they're gambler at such a young age, they're going to need some government intervention because clearly the parents can't handle the children and guide them towards the right path in life. We need to teach would be parents and even parents that it's okay to monitor online activities of their children so as to prevent them from being introduced in vices that can be harmful to their formative years and can result in having a bad adulthood.
This can only be prevented if the casinos will ask for a KYC which should not be the first option in crypto gambling since we know, we value our identity and we love to stay private but if those underaged gamblers increases, better to implement this one so we can still save their lives even if their parents are not helping at all. This is alarming, gambling will just ruin their life government should do something about it especially now that the world runs most of the time online.

Parents have limitations on how long they can monitor their children. As they can't watch them 24/7, maybe instill to their kids the value of money and be open to discussions like gambling games. Don't be too hard on them when you caught them playing game but be open to discuss things so they will not hide it from you. With this, you will know what extent they are in, if in case they will continue to play.
Definitely true thats why it is really hard to watch over them and check out if theyre dealing with something isnt appropriate for their age and this is why its important to tell them while they are young and make them realize
that they should avoid gambling or its a bad thing even though its a bit exaggerated but it is much better for them to think off that way and once they do already get matured then they are at least able to realize that
the things that we had been saying into those younger years are definitely right and we might able to save them up for some possible addiction.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: bittraffic on September 14, 2021, 11:59:45 PM


If they're gambler at such a young age, they're going to need some government intervention because clearly the parents can't handle the children and guide them towards the right path in life. We need to teach would be parents and even parents that it's okay to monitor online activities of their children so as to prevent them from being introduced in vices that can be harmful to their formative years and can result in having a bad adulthood.
This can only be prevented if the casinos will ask for a KYC which should not be the first option in crypto gambling since we know, we value our identity and we love to stay private but if those underaged gamblers increases, better to implement this one so we can still save their lives even if their parents are not helping at all. This is alarming, gambling will just ruin their life government should do something about it especially now that the world runs most of the time online.

Parents have limitations on how long they can monitor their children. As they can't watch them 24/7, maybe instill to their kids the value of money and be open to discussions like gambling games. Don't be too hard on them when you caught them playing game but be open to discuss things so they will not hide it from you. With this, you will know what extent they are in, if in case they will continue to play.
Definitely true thats why it is really hard to watch over them and check out if theyre dealing with something isnt appropriate for their age and this is why its important to tell them while they are young and make them realize
that they should avoid gambling or its a bad thing even though its a bit exaggerated but it is much better for them to think off that way and once they do already get matured then they are at least able to realize that
the things that we had been saying into those younger years are definitely right and we might able to save them up for some possible addiction.

You don't monitor teens today, they learn faster and what they see online could become very powerful to change their attitude.

The power of AI of adnetworks and devices collecting data of kids that could have an interest in making money online is working. The ads are just irresistible that kids will click the ads too because the graphics are just too tempting.



Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: yazher on September 15, 2021, 01:30:45 AM
It's the parents that should be the first line of defense when it comes to this kind of stuff, they're the closest to the kid so that means that they can monitor what they do, some might say that you're invading their privacy but it's a good parenting to monitor their online activities because you want what's best for them.

Most of the teaching of social media now is not really helpful when it comes to our children where some of them say that teaching your kids right or wrong is not really advisable because you stealing their own experience to learn with themselves. well, their logic is not suitable when you let your children do what they want, all they think is they can get everything they want and no one can stop them on that no matter right or wrong they won't hesitate to do it as long as they can do so. That's why we as a parent need to be vigilant on how we raise our kids and as soon as we see something wrong, we need to stop them for being addicted in some habit where they first found it just for mere entertainment.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: molsewid on September 15, 2021, 09:26:41 AM
It has been very common, we can see many advertisements about gambling in games, videos, websites, and mostly in online games.
Of course, everyone can see it and many underaged may be interested in that kind of advertisement, you know they always say big won and jackpot, so many people will be attracted to that sweet promises.
But in fact, advertisements will be always advertisements.

Overall, this is the challenge of our era, kids can use gadgets much better than us sometimes. They have their own smartphone moreover during this pandemic, they are always engaged with smartphones where they can connect to any website and YouTube that they want.
And here is the role of parents. We must know what our children are doing, visiting, and also seeing. We may not be able to control and monitor them 24 hours. But at least, we can check them every time we can.
And the most important thing also is paying attention to them, giving more attention and affection to them. And of course, giving them understanding about what sites that they are probably curious to visit. If it is about gambling, tell them about it, about the risks that may be got if they are still kids and playing gambling.

Well advertisement today can be seen in any social media platform, it can be in a banner ads, video advertisement and others. It's a very challenging to every parent today to control their children because mobile gadgets today were became an essential to every children because of the need to their education and due to trend also. It's very challenging to them to monitor the daily activities of the children in their gadgets but one thing that they can do is to educate their child what are the thing that they must avoid though it's inevitable that gambling advertisement will popped up on any site they would open.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: michellee on September 15, 2021, 11:11:50 AM
If they're gambler at such a young age, they're going to need some government intervention because clearly the parents can't handle the children and guide them towards the right path in life. We need to teach would be parents and even parents that it's okay to monitor online activities of their children so as to prevent them from being introduced in vices that can be harmful to their formative years and can result in having a bad adulthood.
This can only be prevented if the casinos will ask for a KYC which should not be the first option in crypto gambling since we know, we value our identity and we love to stay private but if those underaged gamblers increases, better to implement this one so we can still save their lives even if their parents are not helping at all. This is alarming, gambling will just ruin their life government should do something about it especially now that the world runs most of the time online.
I doubt that KYC can stop young people from playing gambling because they will figure out how to bypass the KYC process. Many ways they can use, including borrowing their parents, uncle, aunt or other adult people to completed the KYC verifications and mostly, their parents will not know about that. The thing that their parents can do is just watching, monitoring, and observing their children when they use their gadget and always use a SafeSearch applied on their gadget so when they search for the thing that they should not know before they grow up, they will not get anything.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: robelneo on September 15, 2021, 11:34:39 AM
On the notification panel of my android device and that of many other devices of people in my locale that i have come across, I noticed too many pop up ads about one gambling site or the other, which with a click, you will find yourself in the interface of an online casino or betting site asking for you to sign up and get huge bonuses, I also observed that when using the chrome browser on my cell phone to surf some websites on the internet, I am forcefully redirected to some gambling and betting websites that opens up on the tab as well.

Android and our browser are using an intelligent tracker to track your surfing preference, just like they do on Facebook if you've been surfing gambling sites and click those casino ads the device and browser will suggest sites that you are likely interested to click and browse.

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I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.

The answer is monitoring, parents should monitor their children, what they surf, their interest and who they talk online, unless they can take care themselves and they are old enough, parents should take the lead in monitoring their children


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Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

They cannot control they just assume that those who will register to understand enough what they are signing up, they will only know it once they ask KYC.







Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: KTChampions on September 15, 2021, 12:23:31 PM
Well advertisement today can be seen in any social media platform, it can be in a banner ads, video advertisement and others. It's a very challenging to every parent today to control their children because mobile gadgets today were became an essential to every children because of the need to their education and due to trend also. It's very challenging to them to monitor the daily activities of the children in their gadgets but one thing that they can do is to educate their child what are the thing that they must avoid though it's inevitable that gambling advertisement will popped up on any site they would open.

It is very important to keep close contact with your child in order to understand when it will be necessary to explain these things to him. For example, my daughter is not interested in gambling at the moment, and any number of advertisements and banners does not change this attitude. Perhaps when she grows up and begins to be interested in this, I will have to teach her to understand how everything works here.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Davidvictorson on September 15, 2021, 02:33:35 PM
On the notification panel of my android device and that of many other devices of people in my locale that i have come across, I noticed too many pop up ads about one gambling site or the other, which with a click, you will find yourself in the interface of an online casino or betting site asking for you to sign up and get huge bonuses, I also observed that when using the chrome browser on my cell phone to surf some websites on the internet, I am forcefully redirected to some gambling and betting websites that opens up on the tab as well.

I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.

https://www.roulettesites.org/blog/responsible-gambling/underage-gambling.php

Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

Why am I not surprised. The world in which we live in now is all crazy about getting rich quick and most especially engaging in activities that increase dopamine rush as a form of escapism. The result becomes that they get hooked and just like every other addiction they want to get that rush frequently. We have 11 -16 year old folks who are already pathological gamblers. The sad truth is that pathological gambling has  other comorbidities. It has already been reported that, "high prevalence estimates of alcohol use disorder and drug use disorder have also been reported in pathological gamblers" .

There should be more adverts that actually discourage gambling especially among underaged and that shows the real-life consequence of towing that path at a young age than just placing under the ad "Not for persons under the age of 18".

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6683819/


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Maestro75 on September 15, 2021, 03:12:02 PM
IMHO, Ads popping on android device or even on google is a targeted ads which means you will never receive it unless you are browsing same website or anything about gambling which an underage user that doesn't visit gambling will never receive that kind of ads if they never play gambling on there device.

That is correct. You get the notifications from gambling sites if you have in the past visited a gambling site or an affiliate to the site. I do not get any notifications from such sites because am not a targeted fan as I do not browse gambling sites. On the underage issue, that should be in the hands of parents to monitor their children and know what sites they visit. That is if parents even allow their children below 17 years access to android phones. If you want to give your children phones for easy access to you when they are away from you, it does not have to be an android phone. Get them those simple and cheap aisha phones.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Pamadar on September 15, 2021, 03:24:04 PM

Proper guidance is very important and I think it will also depend on the culture of your family, because in my country most of the parents didn't force their Children to leave their home even if they already on a legal age since we are family oriented, and parents are really responsible.
I agree that family customs also have influenced,

Guidance from parents is the first defense of our children. Giving them the right information and provide right example will let them
understand the risk that awaits them if they exposed themselves to gambling.

Underaged can exposed to gambling easily because of the advance technology that we have right now, we can't blame them for that since we give them the access to online, what we can really do is to spread awareness, and educate them as long as we can.

The big problem that most parents are facing right now, with the technology that gives easy access to anything, gambling addiction is very possible to happen to our kids.

Responsible parenthood not only by providing shelters and foods but also to provide good guidance to our kids, with the knowledge coming inside our own premises, we can lessen the chance exposing our children to gambling if we are keeping them busy in other task or family activities that will attach them closer to us.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: bitzizzix on September 15, 2021, 03:54:34 PM
It's not as easy as we think to fight the ever-evolving technology even though we have done it in various ways, there will definitely be new and very transparent things that are not worth clicking or seeing.

I think parents, nuclear families, teachers in schools and the government have a very important role in dealing with advertising or gambling sites, pornography and others that are very transparent on social media and the internet.
parents, teachers and all teaching staff must be proactive about this and must be more open to sharing and discussing if there are notifications or advertisements these things are not good and also dangerous, and besides that parents must always supervise and limit the use of gadgets for children -child. And most importantly, parents always accompany their children 24 hours a day because that is their obligation, especially female parents, and the relevant government can also help children to be free from sites or advertisements that are inappropriate for children and must also be stricter and also block.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Cling18 on September 15, 2021, 04:02:54 PM
Parents have a huge part and responsibility for this. We all know that we can't control anything about technology these days but we can't do anything to educate our kids about the risks of gambling and how it could ruin their lives at a young age. Teaching them to be vigilant and mindful about what they click on the internet would be a good step for them to know how to get rid of gambling.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Saint-loup on September 15, 2021, 04:13:11 PM
This can only be prevented if the casinos will ask for a KYC which should not be the first option in crypto gambling since we know, we value our identity and we love to stay private but if those underaged gamblers increases, better to implement this one so we can still save their lives even if their parents are not helping at all. This is alarming, gambling will just ruin their life government should do something about it especially now that the world runs most of the time online.
Obviously you don't understand what Obito is saying : it's not our problem if you're not able to properly monitor your children, we don't care of them and you have not any legitimacy to impose KYC to all gamblers for just protecting your children. Your children are your problem not ours.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: blockman on September 15, 2021, 04:28:50 PM
Those pop up ads really target everyone that's visiting their website and whoever clicks it. There's no solution on this as they can pop everywhere but with the guidance of the parents of the young ones, I think it's the best thing to do to avoid them being exposed in gambling at a young age.
It is also needed to raise awareness on this matter because there might be parents that cannot do that because of busyness and they are not aware of such so, letting them be aware of it, they might take action like blocking those sites that their kids might accidentally visit.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: alegotardo on September 15, 2021, 05:02:25 PM
Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

Worrying indeed!
Gambling has evolved exponentially since the Covid pandemic swept the world.
If in a real casino it's easy to block the entry of a minor, in an online site this is a practically impossible task to be done, especially for sites that don't require KYC to use it, and I don't see a solution for that.

Of course, the advertisement could be more controlled, but taxing it the same as a pornographic website advertisement or something like that is overkill in my point of view.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: sovie on September 15, 2021, 05:10:13 PM
Parents have a huge part and responsibility for this. We all know that we can't control anything about technology these days but we can't do anything to educate our kids about the risks of gambling and how it could ruin their lives at a young age. Teaching them to be vigilant and mindful about what they click on the internet would be a good step for them to know how to get rid of gambling.

Technology is double edge sword, it is proportionally good and bad. Due to advancements in technology, everything (regardless of your age) is available on your palm. In my opinion, apart from counseling and guidelines parents can use technology to see what there underage kids are doing online. They must keep an eye of where there kids are using their credit cards. Its just parents who can stop there under age kids from going to online gambling sites.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: rhomelmabini on September 15, 2021, 05:10:38 PM
Those pop up ads really target everyone that's visiting their website and whoever clicks it. There's no solution on this as they can pop everywhere but with the guidance of the parents of the young ones, I think it's the best thing to do to avoid them being exposed in gambling at a young age.
It is also needed to raise awareness on this matter because there might be parents that cannot do that because of busyness and they are not aware of such so, letting them be aware of it, they might take action like blocking those sites that their kids might accidentally visit.
Well, I think ads can be mitigated by using some ad/pop up blockers or simply choose some browsers that ads free with the likes of Brave browser or whatever they could think of that can be a solution may it be free or paid. Most parents these days can't afford the guidance when it comes to these gadgets unless they're knowledgeable enough to for some mitigation and know-how.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: imstillthebest on September 15, 2021, 05:19:25 PM
It was only 39 percent and to me I don't think that was big or alarming plus it says that they are betting with Thier own money and not Thier parents money . I don't have a problem with that .
what I only don't like is the way how these gambling sites promote Thier business because they are done in unproper way  .
 Me myself I hate it when there's unexpected ad that pop up when I'm browsing and to solve this I either change browser or install ad blockers .


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Fredomago on September 15, 2021, 05:29:48 PM
Those pop up ads really target everyone that's visiting their website and whoever clicks it. There's no solution on this as they can pop everywhere but with the guidance of the parents of the young ones, I think it's the best thing to do to avoid them being exposed in gambling at a young age.
It is also needed to raise awareness on this matter because there might be parents that cannot do that because of busyness and they are not aware of such so, letting them be aware of it, they might take action like blocking those sites that their kids might accidentally visit.

Raising awareness from the government providing campaign ads to gather the attentions of all the parents to guard their kids is very important. With serious actions from the state, this will lessen the interest of the people around.

We can't beat this advertisement since online is very useful now for everyone.

It will easily catch the interest of those underaged people, But if this will be taken seriously, the spread of reaching more underage people will be lesser., A hand to hand work from both the government and the society to make sure that the kids are very well aware of this possible problem that may await them in the future.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Kakmakr on September 15, 2021, 05:58:49 PM
The regulated casinos that require KYC details basically eliminate these problems, because they require your identity documents to verify that you are not underage... but the same cannot be said about the unregulated and unlicensed sites.

So what it boils down to is this ==> "Good parenting" ...... A parent must make sure that their children does not participate in things that are not legal, so regular inspection of their devices and not placing computers and tablets in their children's rooms... might help to reduce this. (It is not nice to "police" your own children's actions and activities, but you have to protect them.. against the things that they are not ready for)  ::)


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: poldanmig on September 15, 2021, 06:04:58 PM
Those pop up ads really target everyone that's visiting their website and whoever clicks it. There's no solution on this as they can pop everywhere but with the guidance of the parents of the young ones, I think it's the best thing to do to avoid them being exposed in gambling at a young age.
It is also needed to raise awareness on this matter because there might be parents that cannot do that because of busyness and they are not aware of such so, letting them be aware of it, they might take action like blocking those sites that their kids might accidentally visit.
Well, I think ads can be mitigated by using some ad/pop up blockers or simply choose some browsers that ads free with the likes of Brave browser or whatever they could think of that can be a solution may it be free or paid. Most parents these days can't afford the guidance when it comes to these gadgets unless they're knowledgeable enough to for some mitigation and know-how.
I agree with you, that's why it's very important for parents to keep an eye on their children playing gadgets at this time and even if possible parents should always check the browser and application history on their child's gadgets, so that at least parents can anticipate the bad effects that children might get. from the gadgets, but unfortunately nowadays it is parents who plunge children into bad things in my opinion, because many parents are now spoiling their children by giving gadgets without caring that they are underage.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: dothebeats on September 15, 2021, 07:29:40 PM
Teenagers nowadays are quick to learn on their feet, and probably knows how to work around KYC that is imposed and required on casinos. They can fake documents that are required by casinos, or use their parents' identities in order to sign up and register to a casino. KYC isn't a one-size-fits-all solution, but rather the prevention and the initiative should start with the parents.

It was only 39 percent and to me I don't think that was big or alarming plus it says that they are betting with Thier own money and not Thier parents money . I don't have a problem with that .
what I only don't like is the way how these gambling sites promote Thier business because they are done in unproper way  .
 Me myself I hate it when there's unexpected ad that pop up when I'm browsing and to solve this I either change browser or install ad blockers .

39% is already alarming considering that we're talking about underaged gamblers in here. Those 39% could lead themselves to a problematic lifestyle in the future if they are not checked, or if no intervention from their parents won't come.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Slow death on September 15, 2021, 08:29:31 PM
technology is currently reaching people fast, children use cell phones to do schoolwork, to play video games, to watch anime, movies and series, and it is the parents' task to talk to the children and explain the risks of using gamble sites. bad luck, if parents clarify to their children that it is a TOS breach to use gambling sites and that even they may not receive the money in case they win because they are underage then the children will be able to understand.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: SquallLeonhart on September 15, 2021, 09:01:43 PM
I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.
Ever since the online world grew big enough, there is an anonymous level that people can keep for a long time. This is very valid for all the casinos that do not ask for KYC as well, if they are not asking for your KYC than it is obviously going to be easy for the underage people to gamble. When that is in crypto world then it would mean that they would get to gamble without using any credit card or anything neither. So, a crypto casino without kyc means that any underage can play.

However do you know what is the funny thing? They still have to go through so many hoops to play that, yet in my nation sportsbetting is allowed and we get to gamble with that no matter how old we are, I gambled my first horse racing bet when I was 12, like yeah sure maybe a 17 year old could get in as 18 but I was 12! So, it is really not a new rare thing that children do gamble sometimes.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: coupable on September 15, 2021, 09:03:56 PM
IMHO, Ads popping on android device or even on google is a targeted ads which means you will never receive it unless you are browsing same website or anything about gambling which an underage user that doesn't visit gambling will never receive that kind of ads if they never play gambling on there device.
Sorry man, this is not true. I can't tell how much websites, which are target for underaged users, are full of publicities about both gambling websites and pornographic websites as well. For instance, websites with streaming movies or some gaming platforms.
I may think about this situation from two sides:
- The problem with users who are not in control of what their children watch in internet as we can't blame companies to publish ads for gambling platforms.
- The solution, besides the control of the children activities by their parents, is that gambling platforms should verify the age of its users which requires a procedure of verification which is not recommended to be used by users searching for more privacy/anonymity.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Lanatsa on September 15, 2021, 09:23:04 PM
technology is currently reaching people fast, children use cell phones to do schoolwork, to play video games, to watch anime, movies and series, and it is the parents' task to talk to the children and explain the risks of using gamble sites. bad luck, if parents clarify to their children that it is a TOS breach to use gambling sites and that even they may not receive the money in case they win because they are underage then the children will be able to understand.
In short, we are already relying on technology nowadays even with the simplest activity that we are involved on which do mostly needed up some internet connection which simply means that we are

really that exposed on online things which young minds or not matured kids will really be having the risk on dealing with those things which shouldn't really be engaged or experienced by them.

Curiosity does circle on someones mind which simply tells that it could possibly be the main reason on why kids do really go up with bad decisions.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: samcrypto on September 15, 2021, 09:36:01 PM
technology is currently reaching people fast, children use cell phones to do schoolwork, to play video games, to watch anime, movies and series, and it is the parents' task to talk to the children and explain the risks of using gamble sites. bad luck, if parents clarify to their children that it is a TOS breach to use gambling sites and that even they may not receive the money in case they win because they are underage then the children will be able to understand.
This is one of the disadvantages of growing technologies, we are exposing our Children into bad environment that can really affect them for their entire life.

This is why as a parent, we should double our time monitoring our child and guiding them into the right path so they won’t fall into this trap, we should also not depend on any government because that’s our responsibilities in the first place.

Crypto casinos or any gambling site already have this restrictions but due to anonymity they can’t monitor all their players, this is why we need a strong regulations and restrictions so those underaged can’t play on their platform, I guess basic KYC can help.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: ReiMomo on September 15, 2021, 09:37:07 PM
technology is currently reaching people fast, children use cell phones to do schoolwork, to play video games, to watch anime, movies and series, and it is the parents' task to talk to the children and explain the risks of using gamble sites. bad luck, if parents clarify to their children that it is a TOS breach to use gambling sites and that even they may not receive the money in case they win because they are underage then the children will be able to understand.
In short, we are already relying on technology nowadays even with the simplest activity that we are involved on which do mostly needed up some internet connection which simply means that we are

On this issue, parents should have to take a look what their children do, even though they use gadgets because we can't deny the fact that technology fastest spreading and they are prone to the gambling activity if no one will guide them. This is a very serious or isolated case, we should look forward to them because their future will be at stake in this case. I am afraid because most of the young people are always curious about those things and I guess some of them will try when there is money.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Fesatmas on September 15, 2021, 09:38:33 PM
Those pop up ads really target everyone that's visiting their website and whoever clicks it. There's no solution on this as they can pop everywhere but with the guidance of the parents of the young ones, I think it's the best thing to do to avoid them being exposed in gambling at a young age.
It is also needed to raise awareness on this matter because there might be parents that cannot do that because of busyness and they are not aware of such so, letting them be aware of it, they might take action like blocking those sites that their kids might accidentally visit.
Well, I think ads can be mitigated by using some ad/pop up blockers or simply choose some browsers that ads free with the likes of Brave browser or whatever they could think of that can be a solution may it be free or paid. Most parents these days can't afford the guidance when it comes to these gadgets unless they're knowledgeable enough to for some mitigation and know-how.
I agree with you, that's why it's very important for parents to keep an eye on their children playing gadgets at this time and even if possible parents should always check the browser and application history on their child's gadgets, so that at least parents can anticipate the bad effects that children might get. from the gadgets, but unfortunately nowadays it is parents who plunge children into bad things in my opinion, because many parents are now spoiling their children by giving gadgets without caring that they are underage.


Even his own parents are busy with their own gadgets. Usually when they are just gathered in one room and they are all busy with what they are holding each other, never controlling what they access even they are not aware of each other. So far, the role of parents is not to provide any learning to children. The tendency to access prohibited sites is difficult to control if all of them do not provide education that truly educates their own children, what parents do is the most vulnerable example for children to imitate.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: shield132 on September 15, 2021, 09:39:50 PM
There doesn't really exist any solution to fit that problem. Before video verifications, kids were usually taking the passport of their fathers, were taking pictures and sending them to get KYC verified. After video verifications, kids ask to their adult friends to create casino account and give them in exchange of $5 or something like that, this person agrees and then these kids gamble. Also, these kids usually share the KYC verified accounts in each-other. I have worked in gambling industry and can tell you that these casino truly know what's happening, they just don't care because these kids are good income for them and the goal of these businessmen is to maximize the profit, even if that makes someone miserable.

The only solution that comes to my mind is to ask for KYC documents every week or two week in order to truly know who is the account owner. I think this will lessen the accidents that I mentioned above.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: adzino on September 15, 2021, 09:44:06 PM
On the notification panel of my android device and that of many other devices of people in my locale that i have come across, I noticed too many pop up ads about one gambling site or the other, which with a click, you will find yourself in the interface of an online casino or betting site asking for you to sign up and get huge bonuses, I also observed that when using the chrome browser on my cell phone to surf some websites on the internet, I am forcefully redirected to some gambling and betting websites that opens up on the tab as well.

I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.

https://www.roulettesites.org/blog/responsible-gambling/underage-gambling.php

Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?
Advertisements are something that can't be avoided. As far as I know, most of the advertisements are targeted so casinos can get appropriate audience. Unfortunately, there is nothing much the casino can do to avoid underage gambling. I mean they can force all users to go through KYC as soon as the user registers, but most of the people won't be happy with that. As far as I know almost all fiat casino requires you to pass the KYC. I guess eventually even crypto casinos will be forced to make all users pass the KYC due to regulations.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Rengga Jati on September 15, 2021, 10:09:46 PM
Well advertisement today can be seen in any social media platform, it can be in a banner ads, video advertisement and others. It's a very challenging to every parent today to control their children because mobile gadgets today were became an essential to every children because of the need to their education and due to trend also. ...
That's right. As parents, we can only control them as we can, but unfortunately, we cannot do it 24 hours.
However, we can try by giving them understanding and more attention in order to minimize their inetrests or willingess to gambling.
Because we really know, our kids, are not ready yet for this.

I doubt that KYC can stop young people from playing gambling because they will figure out how to bypass the KYC process. Many ways they can use, including borrowing their parents, uncle, aunt or other adult people to completed the KYC verifications and mostly, their parents will not know about that.
Yeah, Children are now being clever than we are thinking.
If the KYC is done lively, live video call, maybe it can help. But, I think they will choose other platforms that will not need to do KYC or only using KYC by document only that they can get easily.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Desmong on September 15, 2021, 11:24:55 PM
This is no way gambling platform can determine users that are underaged and those that are not because most gambling sites does not requires kyc which might be very hard for them to know. The problem of who is underaged and who are not does not really concern gambling platforms and there no law that subject them to do verification for knowing who is underaged or not. The society is moving to other level which will be less strict on underage activities.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: harizen on September 16, 2021, 12:25:52 AM
I also observed that when using the chrome browser on my cell phone to surf some websites on the internet, I am forcefully redirected to some gambling and betting websites that opens up on the tab as well.

Hmm, is this serious? That browser is alarming if behaving like that and my Chrome is not like that. As for my knowledge, there's no such thing as Chrome Browser or any popular browsers will force you directly to some gambling sites unless you click an ad as it will trigger another web page or tab.

I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.

With technology today and with the current pandemic situation where everyone is focused only on their mobile and computers, people at any age will really exposed to gambling sites. Ads are everywhere not just for gambling-related sites.

Just like what other things they are seeing in the internet, it's now up to them how to deal with it.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

There's no solution but rather people have to educate one over one. It's not that easy and simple. After telling youth that they should not gamble, they won't just follow that easily.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: timerland on September 16, 2021, 02:36:37 AM
It's certainly a valid concern.

However, I think that a lot of media opinions surrounding this topic is clearly blown out of proportion and sensationalised.

Also, not all the onus should be on the casino. Sure, there should be implementations of voluntary self-exclusion schemes, for instance, but you can't enforce any ban on underaged gambling with 100% certainty - there are bound to be people who slip through the nets.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: xSkylarx on September 16, 2021, 03:07:46 AM
This is no way gambling platform can determine users that are underaged and those that are not because most gambling sites does not requires kyc which might be very hard for them to know. The problem of who is underaged and who are not does not really concern gambling platforms and there no law that subject them to do verification for knowing who is underaged or not. The society is moving to other level which will be less strict on underage activities.

Agree to this. But most of the  websites has a agreement with the user upon registration like tick the box if you are 18+ so anyone could lie to it . Even undeaged they will tick it since no one will know he is underaged. Though sites now are having KYC but that was also bad to their websites since others will migrate to other sites that doesnt have KYC


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Fundamentals Of on September 16, 2021, 03:27:00 AM
Gambling among minors will really be very hard to detect knowing that the online gambling industry is mostly just asking the clients to simply check the box saying the one who is about to play is already in the legal age, which is 18 in many countries. Any minor who wishes to claim that he is already 18 is not asked of any further proof that he is indeed at least 18 years of age.

I can't think of any possible solution to this problem except by regulating gambling ads. Sites and apps which are mostly downloaded by minors should not be displaying gambling ads.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Lordhermes on September 16, 2021, 03:53:17 AM
It has become alarming the way children gamble on line. The use of Telephones so common among adults,youths,and children have made gambling so common that children get addicted to it from this modern age,and this is what makes the society bad because those same children that are now addicted to gambling from this age,will even become worse in the nearest joint.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Wexnident on September 16, 2021, 04:07:52 AM
Those ads should be targeted to you specifically and not entirely all owners and/or users of Chrome browsers and Android devices. The only issue here is that if children actually use mobile devices from their parents (or even pcs) and randomly visit sites they clearly shouldn't. Well tbf, that really isn't the issue, the issue here is that parents are supposed to educate their children at an early age so that things like these aren't an issue. Letting them gamble should even be possible just to make them sate their curiosity, and if they ever want to continue, that's when you step in to educate them, albeit harshly.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: molsewid on September 16, 2021, 04:08:23 AM

Agree to this. But most of the  websites has a agreement with the user upon registration like tick the box if you are 18+ so anyone could lie to it . Even undeaged they will tick it since no one will know he is underaged. Though sites now are having KYC but that was also bad to their websites since others will migrate to other sites that doesnt have KYC

It would be totally hard for a gambling website to determine whether the new comer registering on the website is an underaged or not unless the KYC of the gambling website requires the id of the new comer which I also think this kind of KYC verification requiring personal info is not quite attractive to a gambler because some or many of the gambler wanted to private their personal identity. This would be a challenging job for any gambling site to determine the age and this is quite alarming because there are some or many gamblers that are underaged which is not yet allowed to be in this kind of activities.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: michellee on September 16, 2021, 04:27:36 AM
Well advertisement today can be seen in any social media platform, it can be in a banner ads, video advertisement and others. It's a very challenging to every parent today to control their children because mobile gadgets today were became an essential to every children because of the need to their education and due to trend also. ...
That's right. As parents, we can only control them as we can, but unfortunately, we cannot do it 24 hours.
However, we can try by giving them understanding and more attention in order to minimize their inetrests or willingess to gambling.
Because we really know, our kids, are not ready yet for this.

I doubt that KYC can stop young people from playing gambling because they will figure out how to bypass the KYC process. Many ways they can use, including borrowing their parents, uncle, aunt or other adult people to completed the KYC verifications and mostly, their parents will not know about that.
Yeah, Children are now being clever than we are thinking.
If the KYC is done lively, live video call, maybe it can help. But, I think they will choose other platforms that will not need to do KYC or only using KYC by document only that they can get easily.
And that will be easy for them to find other platforms that do not require KYC as with the help from the internet, they will get more than one gambling websites that do not use KYC. Geez, I am not surprised to see children now being smart than the adult people as they can see what adult people did and the other people so they can easily know what they should do.

This is no way gambling platform can determine users that are underaged and those that are not because most gambling sites does not requires kyc which might be very hard for them to know. The problem of who is underaged and who are not does not really concern gambling platforms and there no law that subject them to do verification for knowing who is underaged or not. The society is moving to other level which will be less strict on underage activities.
Yes, that is right. The casino will suspicious if they found a strange transaction that happen to their members and they will investigate it right away. But for who are their members, they will not think much about that as long as that is not related to the transaction. That is why the underaged can visit any website without limitation if they do not supervise by their parents.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: mindrust on September 16, 2021, 04:48:11 AM
I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.

https://www.roulettesites.org/blog/responsible-gambling/underage-gambling.php

Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

You can't really save your kids from these unless you restrict their access to the internet. As long as they can access google, they can gamble or watch porn and most of the time you won't even notice what they were doing. Most kids today spend their time with tablets, playing roblox. Once you give them a tab, there is no turning back, you can't even take it away easily because all of his/her friends (if she/he has any) do the same thing.

Just make sure that the kid learns math well and it will be fine eventually. If he/she plays on his/her tablet all day every day, then the chances are high that she/he is going to be an addict.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Chato1977 on September 16, 2021, 05:28:35 AM
On the notification panel of my android device and that of many other devices of people in my locale that i have come across, I noticed too many pop up ads about one gambling site or the other, which with a click, you will find yourself in the interface of an online casino or betting site asking for you to sign up and get huge bonuses, I also observed that when using the chrome browser on my cell phone to surf some websites on the internet, I am forcefully redirected to some gambling and betting websites that opens up on the tab as well.

I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.

https://www.roulettesites.org/blog/responsible-gambling/underage-gambling.php

Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?





This must be a concern of each countries as their allowable age to gamble is the main agenda here.

but AFAIK there are only very few country that allows 18 and below of age to gamble so this issue is alarming for much many parents that may not know their children is in gambling activities.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: gabbie2010 on September 16, 2021, 05:44:20 AM
It's the responsibility of both parent and the gambling site to prevent children from getting into gambling at a really young age, the best thing that we can do is for us to fill our roles to prevent such thing, if you're a parent then it's your role to supervise and monitor your children and what they do online, as a gambling site owner, it's your role to prevent children from getting into the site.
I think parents should take the most crucial role in preventing their kids from gambling, those kids might find a subtle ways of bypassing the KYC age restriction of those gambling sites, parents need to constantly access and check their kids phones with a view to monitor the Apps and the functions of those Apps on their phones.
Taking a drastic steps by parents in preventing those kids from gambling  is very important else it will in a long run distract their educational pursuits if not quickly checked.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: rhomelmabini on September 16, 2021, 06:47:37 AM
Those pop up ads really target everyone that's visiting their website and whoever clicks it. There's no solution on this as they can pop everywhere but with the guidance of the parents of the young ones, I think it's the best thing to do to avoid them being exposed in gambling at a young age.
It is also needed to raise awareness on this matter because there might be parents that cannot do that because of busyness and they are not aware of such so, letting them be aware of it, they might take action like blocking those sites that their kids might accidentally visit.
Well, I think ads can be mitigated by using some ad/pop up blockers or simply choose some browsers that ads free with the likes of Brave browser or whatever they could think of that can be a solution may it be free or paid. Most parents these days can't afford the guidance when it comes to these gadgets unless they're knowledgeable enough to for some mitigation and know-how.
I agree with you, that's why it's very important for parents to keep an eye on their children playing gadgets at this time and even if possible parents should always check the browser and application history on their child's gadgets, so that at least parents can anticipate the bad effects that children might get. from the gadgets, but unfortunately nowadays it is parents who plunge children into bad things in my opinion, because many parents are now spoiling their children by giving gadgets without caring that they are underage.
That's I think is a hard thing to do, they aren't with them even when they're at home because sometimes if their child/ren is/are teenager/s we can't deny the fact they wanted to be with peers. Most parents aren't tech savvy to worry these things and this ads being generated are a total sucker. I don't think it's intentional on parents side, no parents can do that to their child especially if it's harmful for them, not onto blaming maybe the focus was on mitigation to these kind of stuffs.



Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: delfastTions on September 16, 2021, 07:00:21 AM
It is natural for underage gamblers to be concerned about the problem online because gambling at such a young age will cause problems in their normal life. It will create obstacles in the way of growth it is important to have a certain age to gamble the role of family is more in overcoming this problem of minors parents can prevent gambling if they take the right steps they need to be well educated about the bad aspects. There will be entertainment to reduce the addiction to the game.
If everything were that simple, then there would be no problem.  And happy parents would watch as a teenager voluntarily leaves the computer or throws a mobile phone aside ..  :)
Alas, they do not obey and it is important for them to realize their value among their peers and friends.  And because of this, the parents cannot cope and the prohibitions do not work at all.  Only if the teenager's habitat is not too addicted to gambling is it possible to somehow distract him with normal games such as football, basketball or table tennis, or other outdoor games that are beneficial for physical development. 
By the way, in Latin American countries, teenagers often play football more than sit at the computer.  That is why they have such strong national football teams afterwards. 
So you just need to monitor the environment of your children and, if possible, change it.  True, this is very difficult.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: bitterguy28 on September 16, 2021, 07:41:54 AM
It is natural for underage gamblers to be concerned about the problem online because gambling at such a young age will cause problems in their normal life.
sorry but it is not the underage is whom concern here but the people around them and also the government .
If you read the whole topic it is not about the their concern because they care nothing about gambling because all they want is to spend money for this
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It will create obstacles in the way of growth it is important to have a certain age to gamble the role of family is more in overcoming this problem of minors parents can prevent gambling if they take the right steps they need to be well educated about the bad aspects. There will be entertainment to reduce the addiction to the game.
Age is required in every country to be allowable but the problem now is that Online gambling is there and there is no need to present themselves but to gambling and deposit specially now that there is crypto gambling that only requires KYC  for formality .


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: blockman on September 16, 2021, 09:05:39 AM
Those pop up ads really target everyone that's visiting their website and whoever clicks it. There's no solution on this as they can pop everywhere but with the guidance of the parents of the young ones, I think it's the best thing to do to avoid them being exposed in gambling at a young age.
It is also needed to raise awareness on this matter because there might be parents that cannot do that because of busyness and they are not aware of such so, letting them be aware of it, they might take action like blocking those sites that their kids might accidentally visit.
Well, I think ads can be mitigated by using some ad/pop up blockers or simply choose some browsers that ads free with the likes of Brave browser or whatever they could think of that can be a solution may it be free or paid. Most parents these days can't afford the guidance when it comes to these gadgets unless they're knowledgeable enough to for some mitigation and know-how.
It can but not everyone is aware of those ad blockers because the typical user that isn't yet known about this are the kids and their parents that have a different profession. They're not techie until someone gives them the idea that they should use ad blockers just to block these ads.
It is true that many parents don't know the right thing in guiding their kids about things that involves technology and that's why some kids are used to gadgets and likely being controlled by it instead of them controlling it.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: kotajikikox on September 16, 2021, 09:34:47 AM
Well what is the credibility of this site ? to give those statistics? it looks like they are just wanted to lure viewers but it is not the reality

https://i.imgur.com/1y74O3q.png

I don't know if the site is trustworthy but i think this is not what happens worldwide.

and the site comes from UK so meaning this tackles only about UK gamblers and not worldwide .


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: hello_good_sir on September 16, 2021, 10:16:39 AM
On the notification panel of my android device and that of many other devices of people in my locale that i have come across, I noticed too many pop up ads about one gambling site or the other, which with a click, you will find yourself in the interface of an online casino or betting site asking for you to sign up and get huge bonuses, I also observed that when using the chrome browser on my cell phone to surf some websites on the internet, I am forcefully redirected to some gambling and betting websites that opens up on the tab as well.

I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.

https://www.roulettesites.org/blog/responsible-gambling/underage-gambling.php

Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?


I guess it depends on what the definition of "bet" is in this circumstance.

If it is described very loosely then 39% is certainly within the realms of possibility. But I doubt that 39% of all teenagers have actually bet money in the casino, for example.

I do think that the gambling sector should be heavily regulated, but not to the point where it is inaccessible to anyone due to draconian KYC standards.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: AicecreaME on September 16, 2021, 10:59:42 AM
We are in the information age right now, children are smarter than the old us when we were just kids. Kids that are 2 years old nowadays can open your phone easily if it doesn't have any password, what more to a 5-10 years old kids, right? They could easily navigate and explore the internet without their parents knowing, that's why it is important for parents to monitor their children screen time.

Everything is in the internet, just input a certain keyword and that's it, they are expose already to something they shouldn't have see or do.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Shasha80 on September 16, 2021, 11:18:30 AM
We are in the information age right now, children are smarter than the old us when we were just kids. Kids that are 2 years old nowadays can open your phone easily if it doesn't have any password, what more to a 5-10 years old kids, right? They could easily navigate and explore the internet without their parents knowing, that's why it is important for parents to monitor their children screen time.

Everything is in the internet, just input a certain keyword and that's it, they are expose already to something they shouldn't have see or do.

It is true that today's children are very smart in accessing the internet, because now the internet has become like a basic need. So almost
everyone accesses the internet including children, and it should be a special concern for parents who already have children. Do not let children
access the internet for a long time, and always monitor what our children do when accessing the internet. Because there are lots of advertisements
and sites that children are not allowed to see,  especially adult sites and gambling sites are very dangerous for children. Indeed supervising children is
not easy, sometimes they are smarter than us as parents. Therefore, as parents, we must also keep up with technological developments,
so we can supervise our children when accessing the internet.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: delfastTions on September 16, 2021, 12:23:21 PM
We are in the information age right now, children are smarter than the old us when we were just kids. Kids that are 2 years old nowadays can open your phone easily if it doesn't have any password, what more to a 5-10 years old kids, right? They could easily navigate and explore the internet without their parents knowing, that's why it is important for parents to monitor their children screen time.

Everything is in the internet, just input a certain keyword and that's it, they are expose already to something they shouldn't have see or do.
Even if you install protection from undesirable content for the child on your home computer and all mobile phones in the house and, of course, children's mobile phones, he will still look for a way to bypass the protection, because his friends say "look - it's interesting ...".  And now he is struggling to access the Internet, free from parental protection.  And as a rule, it still gets access to unwanted and dangerous content. 
How to deal with it, I can't even imagine how?  Only by complete  ???blocking, which is now unrealistic.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: john_nautica on September 16, 2021, 01:04:37 PM
Honestly that's really a large number of underaged gamblers, right now you can easily create gambling accounts and play but of course there's a restriction in regards of withdrawal but the thing is by just signing up and checking the box that you are legal age, you can easily create an account. No matter how big or small their budget starting at a very young age would have higher chance of getting addicted to it and I think that's really dangerous.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Fesatmas on September 16, 2021, 01:33:25 PM
We are in the information age right now, children are smarter than the old us when we were just kids. Kids that are 2 years old nowadays can open your phone easily if it doesn't have any password, what more to a 5-10 years old kids, right? They could easily navigate and explore the internet without their parents knowing, that's why it is important for parents to monitor their children screen time.

Everything is in the internet, just input a certain keyword and that's it, they are expose already to something they shouldn't have see or do.

If children are up to 10 years old, we don't need to worry, because children that age still haven't shown valid data about what they access and what they watch. remember that their world is different from ours, they only access shows according to their growth like cartoons. It's still too far to access gambling even if it comes to gambling, maybe just games and videos of their age.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Fundamentals Of on September 16, 2021, 02:23:14 PM
Honestly that's really a large number of underaged gamblers, right now you can easily create gambling accounts and play but of course there's a restriction in regards of withdrawal but the thing is by just signing up and checking the box that you are legal age, you can easily create an account. No matter how big or small their budget starting at a very young age would have higher chance of getting addicted to it and I think that's really dangerous.

Are there restrictions in regards to withdrawal? If it is a crypto casino then I think there are no restrictions. There are no KYC required during withdrawal so there is really no way the site can tell whether the gambler who is making a withdrawal is underage or not.

This issue is about parents making sure their children who are minor are well guided and monitored. They should know more or less which sites their children are visiting so that any sign that their children are involved in gambling should be addressed early on.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: KTChampions on September 16, 2021, 02:55:33 PM
It is very important to keep close contact with your child in order to understand when it will be necessary to explain these things to him. For example, my daughter is not interested in gambling at the moment, and any number of advertisements and banners does not change this attitude. Perhaps when she grows up and begins to be interested in this, I will have to teach her to understand how everything works here.
Proper guidance is very important and I think it will also depend on the culture of your family, because in my country most of the parents didn't force their Children to leave their home even if they already on a legal age since we are family oriented, and parents are really responsible. Underaged can exposed to gambling easily because of the advance technology that we have right now, we can't blame them for that since we give them the access to online, what we can really do is to spread awareness, and educate them as long as we can.

Historically, my country is poor, so there has never been a culture of sending children "to free bread" upon reaching any age. Many families live by three generations in the same house and this is considered normal. But this leaves a certain imprint on the relationship (and I cannot say that this is bad with regard to the issue under discussion) - increased control by the parents and reduced freedom of action by the children.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: aioc on September 16, 2021, 03:18:58 PM

Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.



You cannot blame the parents why the numbers are growing, parents are working and some of them are working longer hours to sustain the family this pandemic and even if they are working online the working hours are also long, children as young as 10 years old already know how to use a cellphone because of online teaching, because of this they can access to these gambling sites and porn sites


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: dimonstration on September 16, 2021, 03:23:21 PM
If children are up to 10 years old, we don't need to worry, because children that age still haven't shown valid data about what they access and what they watch. remember that their world is different from ours, they only access shows according to their growth like cartoons. It's still too far to access gambling even if it comes to gambling, maybe just games and videos of their age.
The generation is way too different now, some where engaged in playing but now with money involve. We should still be careful and watch what they are doing. Playing with money involve even just a little amount is consider gambling and now that everything online is accessible we must lomit what our child uses. There are apps where we can lock or use kid mode operation in our mobile to avoid them using our accounts if ever they also uses our mobile.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Oceat on September 16, 2021, 03:48:12 PM
IMHO, Ads popping on android device or even on google is a targeted ads which means you will never receive it unless you are browsing same website or anything about gambling which an underage user that doesn't visit gambling will never receive that kind of ads if they never play gambling on there device.
This is the only reason I see why OP keep seeing the ads everywhere even if he doesn't want it. One way to test your privacy is to use a VPN and you will be surprised to see that the ads that keeps popping up to you is different. Although, there are ways to prevent you from seeing those kind of ads whenever there's a pop-up ads appear in your browser.

Google is your friend if you want to get rid of it.

Gambling sites are everywhere but it's your choice to stay away from them if you dislikes gambling. No one is forcing it to a minors because gambling sites knew that this might be a bad reputation if someone caught them letting minors play gambling on their platform.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Peanutswar on September 16, 2021, 04:24:32 PM
We are in the information age right now, children are smarter than the old us when we were just kids. Kids that are 2 years old nowadays can open your phone easily if it doesn't have any password, what more to a 5-10 years old kids, right? They could easily navigate and explore the internet without their parents knowing, that's why it is important for parents to monitor their children screen time.

Everything is in the internet, just input a certain keyword and that's it, they are expose already to something they shouldn't have see or do.

It is true that today's children are very smart in accessing the internet, because now the internet has become like a basic need. So almost
everyone accesses the internet including children, and it should be a special concern for parents who already have children. Do not let children
access the internet for a long time, and always monitor what our children do when accessing the internet. Because there are lots of advertisements
and sites that children are not allowed to see,  especially adult sites and gambling sites are very dangerous for children. Indeed supervising children is
not easy, sometimes they are smarter than us as parents. Therefore, as parents, we must also keep up with technological developments,
so we can supervise our children when accessing the internet.

Today because of the innovation of the technology most of the child have their own devices and internet on their houses so they can search about their curiosity easily, and because of too much exposure on the internet and they read a lot they are now enlightened more about this kind of activities. This is better to have children protection to their devices and your internet connection to prevent getting exposed on this kind of activity. Of course as their guardians and superiors, we need to guide them.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 16, 2021, 04:52:49 PM
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If parents can supervise their kids when they are online with their gadgets, their kids will not try to visit unnecessary websites and focus on what they want to do. They will not try playing gambling because their parents have already told them that playing gambling can make them become addicted and can ruin their lives in the short term. The role key of the parents is not easy because they need to guard their children and make sure that they do not break the illegal thing that can drag them anytime.
Well, they choose to make an offspring meaning that they tacitly agreed to the responsibility that's going to come with raising a kid, I wouldn't say that it's the hardest job in the world, I mean a fireman, policeman, soldier and surgeons are much harder than being a parent to be honest.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Fesatmas on September 16, 2021, 05:16:11 PM
If children are up to 10 years old, we don't need to worry, because children that age still haven't shown valid data about what they access and what they watch. remember that their world is different from ours, they only access shows according to their growth like cartoons. It's still too far to access gambling even if it comes to gambling, maybe just games and videos of their age.
The generation is way too different now, some where engaged in playing but now with money involve. We should still be careful and watch what they are doing. Playing with money involve even just a little amount is consider gambling and now that everything online is accessible we must lomit what our child uses. There are apps where we can lock or use kid mode operation in our mobile to avoid them using our accounts if ever they also uses our mobile.


You are right, that caution is the main thing and needs to be given more attention to children. As parents, apart from controlling, we must also be able to provide limits in providing pocket money, this is in order to minimize deposit activities to one of the gambling sites. But is this too far-fetched if children under the age of 10 have to go this far to access the internet? I don't really believe in this.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Pamadar on September 16, 2021, 05:21:16 PM

You cannot blame the parents why the numbers are growing, parents are working and some of them are working longer hours to sustain the family this pandemic and even if they are working online the working hours are also long, children as young as 10 years old already know how to use a cellphone because of online teaching, because of this they can access to these gambling sites and porn sites

Completely not! But for a responsible parents they will spend extra time to check their children's activities. It's still part of their job to monitor their kids even they are all tired working. The problem with underaged gamblers starts inside the house. If you won't allow your kids to spend more time with their gadgets, it will lessen the chance that their curiosities with those pop-up ads will increase. If they know that the time is limited, they will use that to play or to watch their favorite movies or videos.

Maybe it's not all, but it will help in terms of guiding your kids, setting some limitations and make sure that your kids are following everything. It's not easy to protect your kids, but compassion and love will make it happen. No parents would like to see their kids wasting their time and energy on something that they are just ruined their lives.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: pinggoki on September 16, 2021, 07:19:48 PM
These are targeted ads that you will get when you search for something that is related to the said ad. Seeing as you're getting gambling ads on your phone, you will of course get pop-up ads that are meant for gambling sites and such. What I am a bit concerned though is why you're getting pop-up ads even on your smartphone. This could be caused by haphazardly downloading apps on your device which may carry viruses. Don't wanna scare you but you might wanna look into it.
Honestly that's really a large number of underaged gamblers, right now you can easily create gambling accounts and play but of course there's a restriction in regards of withdrawal but the thing is by just signing up and checking the box that you are legal age, you can easily create an account. No matter how big or small their budget starting at a very young age would have higher chance of getting addicted to it and I think that's really dangerous.
Which is why parental guidance is important in ensuring that these underaged individuals do not get lost in the gambling spiral at their very fragile phase. We can't always put the blame on the establishments or the entities that set things up like this because they have a target demographic that the underaged people do not belong in. If need be, moderate the internet usage of the kids within your household to ensure that none of them are getting content that aren't appropriate for their age.


Title: Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers.
Post by: Gozie51 on September 16, 2021, 08:25:15 PM

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers



Restrictions from the gambling sites should be the first solution to go for. The government has to be involved to make the restriction active by making penalty for the sites not following the rules, as it is for pornographic sites so it should be for gambling during registration .The parents too can help to limit the underaged from gambling, this is not easy because the parents won't be there all day with the children.