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Title: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: GowithMi_GMAT on September 13, 2021, 10:04:34 PM
CryptopiaLand BOUNTY Campaign : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5357316.0
Campaign duration is 2 week, today is Week End - 07-september to 13 September 2021
bounty signature rules: 10 posts/week

Forum Username: NicNacCoin
Forum Account link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=960780
Telegram Username: @NicNac112
Participating Campaigns: Signature
Your BEP-20 Wallet Address: 0xFf0fE7caA1855e8CE3763ab2490f862356941A76

Is this what call hard work?
joined when the bounty duration ends and Write 11 posts on the same day with an average post time lag of 3 minutes -13 minutes.
what do you think, is it ok?


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on September 13, 2021, 10:25:11 PM
Report the said profile to the bounty manager. If the manager is responsible, what the culprit tried to do through post busting won't yield him any results, meaning he will have done no work.
You can also report the profile for spamming to the mods for scrutiny.


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 13, 2021, 10:38:03 PM
That guy's a Sr. Member from 2017?  Jesus.  His post history looks like that of a stereotypical bounty hunter: idiotic posts with extremely poor English and obviously only as many characters as required to get paid. 

Due to the corona pandemic situations , my family income already deduced so I can't buy food properly hence I spend my days with very miserable conditions. I think coronavirus and would be stable and food price never be stopped.
In the eyes of Islam, if money increases from any amount, it becomes completely haram. So since money is increasing from money here then I can say it is completely haram.

Those are but two of the gems I saw in his post history.  OP, I don't consider what he did to be "work".  What it is is a bunch of shitposts that should be deleted post haste.  Did you report any of them to the mods or contact his bounty manager?  I'm not sure if the latter would care or not, but the mods might delete at least some of those pieces of crap.  Not that I'd expect NicNacCoin to get the message, because I'm sure he's incapable of improving the quality of his posts.


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: GowithMi_GMAT on September 14, 2021, 03:25:02 AM
Edit: He Write 3 additional post.
@Bitcoin_Arena , @The Pharmacist
Yes, I Just contacted the project manager and have reported it to the forum moderators.


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: examplens on September 14, 2021, 09:34:35 AM
Edit: He Write 3 additional post.
@Bitcoin_Arena , @The Pharmacist
Yes, I Just contacted the project manager and have reported it to the forum moderators.

Probably forum moderators will delete his participation posts.
95% of bounty hunters don't even read bounty rules or new announcements about bounty, just apply. if already participate in 20+ different campaigns, obviously he can't follow it all.
It should definitely be tagged as a bounty spammer, to be possibly excluded from further campaigns.


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: noorman0 on September 14, 2021, 12:15:48 PM
That guy's a Sr. Member from 2017?  Jesus.  His post history looks like that of a stereotypical bounty hunter: idiotic posts with extremely poor English and obviously only as many characters as required to get paid.

Most likely the account has changed ownership, he originally came to this forum representing a project (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2342544) and did achieve senior rank before being taken over by a new owner.

Those are but two of the gems I saw in his post history.  OP, I don't consider what he did to be "work".  What it is is a bunch of shitposts that should be deleted post haste.
I just suspect he's joined some of his alts, this isn't surprising shitposter behavior to hit the post quota. And I'm sure he's pretty tired of this "work".


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: Little Mouse on September 14, 2021, 01:58:13 PM
Very much hard work.
It happens when project owner don't hire a professional campaign manager. They know whom to pay, who will be good for a project promotion while some shit campaign manager will only hire people who has no influence in the promotion.
If the campaign manager is a good one, will most likely deny this guy and will not count his stake. That should be done with such crap poster.


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: sheenshane on September 14, 2021, 03:39:54 PM
The common problem of unprofessional bounty managers who run bounty campaigns, they didn't care about the forum and don't know about forum rules, as long as it promotes their project, it's fine for them.  There should be a rule of burst posting and should not be counted as a stake and as I saw, it was counted on the spreadsheet.

Obviously, just for the quota, I don't see any pure effort there and yes, there's no hard work upon checking on his post history, 1-2 lines per post, and I reported those obviously shitposts.  It is typically a shitposter behavior and I just want to know if you already reach out to the bounty manager for this so that that guy won't deserve to receive a stake.

So far on this guy's profile, https://bpip.org/Profile?id=960780.
18 posts were deleted by Mods.


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: The Cryptovator on September 14, 2021, 04:18:05 PM
It's not a problem to make 10 or 20 posts in a day if the post has been complying with campaign rules and the forum rules. But the problem is if he makes zero value post. It doesn't help the forum anyway and I don't think any manager should count these kinds of zero value posts which have been made only to fill the weekly quota. But usually, if a user makes too many posts in a day then it's hard to main quality of the post. Notifying the manager would kickoff from the getting stake.


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: Coyster on September 15, 2021, 07:55:29 AM
Is this what call hard work?
The thing is hardwork isn't measured by the number of posts a user makes per day, afaik, you're not even expected to work too hard on the forum, what's expected of a user is to somewhat show effort, effort that you actually have the intentions of communicating, discussing about one topic or the other and airing your views, it's appalling to just write out shitposts that at one glance, someone can immediately know that you're just writing to get paid, no information, no quality, zero effort, it's an attitude that is unbecoming of a Sr Member in this forum (I'm talking about the user in question).

There are users that make quite a lot of posts per day, but they maintain a very high level of post quality, imo, it's basically just about what the users intention before posting is that determines the quality of the posts, either just to get paid, or to engage in quality discussions.


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: hugeblack on September 16, 2021, 03:03:46 PM
We must take it case by case, not all accounts that create 10 posts per day are spam, so it is better to report it, notify campaign manager and then post here if there is no interaction.

The common problem of unprofessional bounty managers who run bounty campaigns, they didn't care about the forum and don't know about forum rules, as long as it promotes their project, it's fine for them.  There should be a rule of burst posting and should not be counted as a stake and as I saw, it was counted on the spreadsheet.


The main reason for such things is that the majority of campaign managers and members are paid with tokens and therefore the developer team does not lose a lot of money and therefore they will look for anyone to be their campaign manager, and these members have dozens of alternative accounts that try to register as many campaigns as possible .


If a small part is added, such as payment in altcoins that have a high market capacity  the spam will be reduced.


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: palle11 on September 19, 2021, 06:54:56 AM

The main reason for such things is that the majority of campaign managers and members are paid with tokens and therefore the developer team does not lose a lot of money and therefore they will look for anyone to be their campaign manager, and these members have dozens of alternative accounts that try to register as many campaigns as possible .


Most of it too is that the bounty hunters don't get paid at the end after waiting for long time, sometimes months with high hopes before realizing they have been scammed. There are a lot of unseriousness on the bounty section due to the managers are hardly sincere so they accept any job to there desk and refuse to do proper research, and escrow tradable token for participants. If they are sure to reward hunters and with tradable tokens, the owners and managers will make the highering process more strict to get good posters. There are some projects ongoing there that are paying with tradable and listed tokens like BGL and others, I believe there highering process is not very open to every poster there.
The point now is such very low level posting does not harm the project directly since it is already a shit project to scam investors but the posting is harming the forum.


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: GowithMi_GMAT on September 19, 2021, 09:18:13 AM
https://imgur.com/a/KxehLIq
I have contacted the team who directed me to send a message via bitcointalk account to the Bounty manager but to this day the Bounty manager has not responded, and in the spreadsheet the NicNacCoin user still gets the stakes calculation for the last week.


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: ScamViruS on September 19, 2021, 06:01:46 PM
I have contacted the team who directed me to send a message via bitcointalk account to the Bounty manager but to this day the Bounty manager has not responded, and in the spreadsheet the NicNacCoin user still gets the stakes calculation for the last week.

The bounty manager should respect your finding and re-check that hunter's profile. Because here it is clear how unprofessional the manager is. Some bounty hunters use various shortcuts to get paid but they are mostly caught later. But here it is seen that this bounty hunter has got stake and if he does not take proper action, he may get payment. I don't know how the manager counted the posts.While no professional manager counts posts this way, project developers should hire a professional manager before launching their bounty.


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: yahoo62278 on September 19, 2021, 06:23:52 PM
Most of your token paying campaigns attract posters such as this. They know tokens have about a 1 percent chance of being listed, so they enroll alt accounts for the gamble. Nothing in a bounty campaign is hard work except maybe a good youtube video or long translation.


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: icopress on September 19, 2021, 09:33:38 PM
Most of your token paying campaigns attract posters such as this. They know tokens have about a 1 percent chance of being listed, so they enroll alt accounts for the gamble. Nothing in a bounty campaign is hard work except maybe a good youtube video or long translation.
This is in the case if the participant of the bounty campaign knows English, but if not, he probably already has bitter experience and, in order not to be banned, makes more efforts when publishing posts. In addition, with the dev of swap platforms, the need for a listing is slowly fading away, so participation for the sake of shitty coins is more relevant than ever.

In the eyes of Islam, if money increases from any amount, it becomes completely haram. So since money is increasing from money here then I can say it is completely haram.
Those are but two of the gems I saw in his post history.  [...]
I apologize for leaving the topic of conversation, but damn it, what does Islam have to do with increasing capital. By the way, I believe that any posts that are religiously motivated should be removed if they are published outside the relevant sections, (please just don't tell me about censorship).  ::)


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: GowithMi_GMAT on September 28, 2021, 01:34:19 PM
BTW, Am I evil if say the same about joining when the bounty duration is over, like the previous campaign (CryptopiaLand).

Campaign: Ethernity.Cloud
Duration Bounty : 6 week
Week #6 : (21/09 - 27/09) ~ [end week]

Forum Username: NicNacCoin
PROOF OF REGISTRATION : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5354912.msg58031713#msg58031713
Bounty Link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5354912.0
Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wDrECU7uvb1-8ZUy98KPIbVNmuKwu7RHgrMifXfE2p4/edit#gid=2026229384
Number : 222
Bounty Manager : Hhampuz


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: UmerIdrees on September 28, 2021, 04:30:37 PM
BTW, Am I evil if say the same about joining when the bounty duration is over, like the previous campaign (CryptopiaLand).

Campaign: Ethernity.Cloud
Duration Bounty : 6 week
Week #6 : (21/09 - 27/09) ~ [end week]

Forum Username: NicNacCoin
PROOF OF REGISTRATION : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5354912.msg58031713#msg58031713
Bounty Link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5354912.0
Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wDrECU7uvb1-8ZUy98KPIbVNmuKwu7RHgrMifXfE2p4/edit#gid=2026229384
Number : 222
Bounty Manager : Hhampuz

There are many idiots who don't even care to read if the bounty has ended and keep on applying. I have seen many bounties where the bounty has ended but people are submitting the social media reports on daily basis. Are they Robots ? How can one be so dump.  :o

Usually bounty managers have to lock the threads to prevent this spam.


Title: Re: Is this what is known as hard work?
Post by: Timelord2067 on September 28, 2021, 05:38:43 PM
I can't say I've heard of the campaign manager, @BALTA00 (who woke up in April) much less the campaign they manage.  What I found interesting is the campaign thread (which is self moderated) has had nearly seventy pages of posts in the last four weeks since the campaign was launched (and no posts deleted)

Some campaigns with such obscure CM are found later on to be both run by the CM and shills of the CM funneling payments back to the CM


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: GowithMi_GMAT on September 28, 2021, 07:39:33 PM
There are many idiots who don't even care to read if the bounty has ended and keep on applying. I have seen many bounties where the bounty has ended but people are submitting the social media reports on daily basis. Are they Robots ? How can one be so dump.  :o
Usually bounty managers have to lock the threads to prevent this spam.
Yes, I think both parties are very stupid especially the Bounty Manager not locking the Thread after the project ends (CryptopiaLand) and some bounty hunters are still sending weekly sheets too.
Back to a new topic, the project (Ethernity.Cloud) is managed by Hhampuz and the Bounty Thread has been locked after the project deadline ended.

I can't say I've heard of the campaign manager, @BALTA00 (who woke up in April) much less the campaign they manage.  What I found interesting is the campaign thread (which is self moderated) has had nearly seventy pages of posts in the last four weeks since the campaign was launched (and no posts deleted)
Some campaigns with such obscure CM are found later on to be both run by the CM and shills of the CM funneling payments back to the CM
The Manager @BALTA00 is so bad, He doesn't care to lock the Thread, the bounty hunter spam attacks are still going on there. BTW, does this also include other @BALTA00 Alt Accounts? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1633808.msg16433840#msg16433840
I accidentally saw that, someone quoted the name @BALTA00.


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on September 29, 2021, 03:20:06 PM
BTW, Am I evil if say the same about joining when the bounty duration is over, like the previous campaign (CryptopiaLand).

Campaign: Ethernity.Cloud
Duration Bounty : 6 week
Week #6 : (21/09 - 27/09) ~ [end week]

Forum Username: NicNacCoin
PROOF OF REGISTRATION : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5354912.msg58031713#msg58031713
Bounty Link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5354912.0
Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wDrECU7uvb1-8ZUy98KPIbVNmuKwu7RHgrMifXfE2p4/edit#gid=2026229384
Number : 222
Bounty Manager : Hhampuz

There are many idiots who don't even care to read if the bounty has ended and keep on applying. I have seen many bounties where the bounty has ended but people are submitting the social media reports on daily basis. Are they Robots ? How can one be so dump.  :o

Usually bounty managers have to lock the threads to prevent this spam.

@op, that's not work, post busting is never counted as work but spam, and he might get a temporary ban if the bounty manager should take the case serious by reporting it to the forum admins.

@umerldrees, well, I can't say for sure if there are bots on this forum, but what I do know is that some of this people actually don't read, and this is because all they are concerned about is how to increase their post count with the anticipation that the bounty manager won't look at their post history but look at their post count to award them stakes for the week, though this only applies to those in signature campaigns.
But all the same, people like this will always exist here or anywhere else, like is commonly said, in every family, there's always a judas.


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: zanezane on October 01, 2021, 10:21:38 AM
Of course it's not okay, that's burst posting and I assume that that user didn't have any knowledge or didn't have any effort whatsoever to make a quality post plus it's impossible to do a quality post in a 3 minute timeframe.


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: GowithMi_GMAT on October 01, 2021, 01:04:00 PM
Of course it's not okay, that's burst posting and I assume that that user didn't have any knowledge or didn't have any effort whatsoever to make a quality post plus it's impossible to do a quality post in a 3 minute timeframe.

Yes as some of the previous members explained. I'm starting to understand that there is no prohibition against writing a large number of posts within one day, it's just that it will be a big problem if the posts are not of high quality.
and the latest information from this person's profile, https://bpip.org/Profile?id=960780.
108 posts have been removed by Mods.


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: Jawhead999 on October 01, 2021, 01:32:38 PM
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Yes as some of the previous members explained. I'm starting to understand that there is no prohibition against writing a large number of posts within one day, it's just that it will be a big problem if the posts are not of high quality.
and the latest information from this person's profile, https://bpip.org/Profile?id=960780.
108 posts have been removed by Mods.
There's no relation between burst post and deleted post, as long as he write on topic and not post in a row, he's fine. Moderators aren't really strict to delete a post, your report will be stay unhandled or even bad.

The problem is the campaign manager whether he accept burst post or not.


Title: Re: Is this what call hard work?
Post by: GowithMi_GMAT on October 01, 2021, 01:52:13 PM
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There's no relation between burst post and deleted post, as long as he write on topic and not post in a row, he's fine. Moderators aren't really strict to delete a post, your report will be stay unhandled or even bad.

The problem is the campaign manager whether he accept burst post or not.
Yes sir you are right in essence posting in a row, not quality, and worse like chasing for the weekly report of the project he is following.

For the project Manager (CryptopiaLand) I don't know if he accepts post burst or not. since i wrote this thread even to this day he has not responded to me at all.