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Title: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: thayes09 on September 21, 2021, 11:58:27 PM
on June 19th SoficoBounty team launched Nafty bounty campaign and ran it for 4 weeks total pool 100 000 000 $NAFTY Tokens(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5344651.0) and the project promised to pay within 1 month from the end of the bounty campaign, but so far there has not been any action other than the project to change the error to BM for payment and BM to change the error for the project is to scam bounty participants, today the Nafty token project continues to launch a new bounty program with the same content as last time (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5361088.0)
when the first payment and all the troubles about it were not resolved, and Nafty's CMO said that the distribution was completed to Sofico and claimed that Sofico cheated them, and Sofico accused them Nafty project not paying. So who is the right person in this trouble, I hope the two sides will clarify this issue, otherwise we will warn the community and mark the Nafty and Sofico project as one of the scam organizations real to everyone.

Proof of distribution protection: https://imgur.com/FZrpYzQ
CMO Nafty said about Sofico: https://imgur.com/vRYWqmK
Sofico explains: https://imgur.com/nSbvv52


Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: noorman0 on September 22, 2021, 06:39:21 AM
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Proof of distribution protection: https://imgur.com/FZrpYzQ

I don't understand about the 3.5k usd paid to sofico, is it bounty allocation or management fee? But it is not justified if the project team re-launched a new bounty thread without paying the previous participant's work. I see the spreadsheet is still left open and of course the team can copy that right away so as not to lose it.

The only way to straighten this case out is to have one of them open a scam accussation thread on the appropriate board (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0) and ask their opponent to post his denial in the same thread. Let the other members judge who lied about their confession.


Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: shinratensei_ on September 22, 2021, 08:28:15 AM
OP, if the team can't provide txs for the token payment that already sent to the sofico's address and then the team lied and sofico gets cheated by the team otherwise if the team can prove it and the sofico was not distributing it and it can be said if sofico was cheating the hunters. If the team said they already sent the token to the sofico and it can be proven easily by giving the tx id. if the team can't do that. They were cheering the hunters and manager.




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Proof of distribution protection: https://imgur.com/FZrpYzQ

I don't understand about the 3.5k usd paid to sofico, is it bounty allocation or management fee?

It seems like the management fees for sofico to manage the campaign.



Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: Ukraina on September 22, 2021, 11:33:58 AM
OP, if the team can't provide txs for the token payment that already sent to the sofico's address and then the team lied and sofico gets cheated by the team otherwise if the team can prove it and the sofico was not distributing it and it can be said if sofico was cheating the hunters. If the team said they already sent the token to the sofico and it can be proven easily by giving the tx id. if the team can't do that. They were cheering the hunters and manager.




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Proof of distribution protection: https://imgur.com/FZrpYzQ

I don't understand about the 3.5k usd paid to sofico, is it bounty allocation or management fee?

It seems like the management fees for sofico to manage the campaign.



I agree with your opinion. But it seems I'm leaning towards the Nafty scam team


Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: thayes09 on September 22, 2021, 12:40:37 PM
OP, if the team can't provide txs for the token payment that already sent to the sofico's address and then the team lied and sofico gets cheated by the team otherwise if the team can prove it and the sofico was not distributing it and it can be said if sofico was cheating the hunters. If the team said they already sent the token to the sofico and it can be proven easily by giving the tx id. if the team can't do that. They were cheering the hunters and manager.




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Proof of distribution protection: https://imgur.com/FZrpYzQ

I don't understand about the 3.5k usd paid to sofico, is it bounty allocation or management fee?

It seems like the management fees for sofico to manage the campaign.


The two sides are still blaming each other and there doesn't seem to be any compromise.


Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: afroza83 on September 22, 2021, 12:58:11 PM
NAFTY Coin , As A Socialized Re-Distribution DeFi Protocol, Helps Content Creators To Earn Much More, And Content Consumers To Pay Much Less Via Disintermediation, As Well As Receive Rewards From All Transactions Across The Network, Or In Other Words – Whenever Someone  Make A Transaction On Any One Of The Platforms Across The Nafty Network, Whether Someone Is Watching A Video Or Communicating Directly With A Content Creator, Every Token Holder On The Network Receives Part Of The Transaction To His Or Her Wallet.


Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: noorman0 on September 22, 2021, 01:51:59 PM
I agree with your opinion. But it seems I'm leaning towards the Nafty scam team
As far as I know, sofico also has a history of poor management (their service thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241899.0)). So can't side with one of them.

The two sides are still blaming each other and there doesn't seem to be any compromise.
Actually anyone involved can make accusations including you as a hunter who is harmed. If these two don't provide clarification publicly, then they can be considered scammers. Btw, someone seems to have started uncovering this issue on Reputations board (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5361121.0). Just follow the progress.


Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: shinratensei_ on September 22, 2021, 02:29:07 PM
I agree with your opinion. But it seems I'm leaning towards the Nafty scam team
I have the same feeling as you if nafty team was scamming the hunters. They were saying like that to make the hunters will be blaming the manager and it will not hurt the reputation of this scam nafty project.


The two sides are still blaming each other and there doesn't seem to be any compromise.
The manager must reveal all of the conversations to make sure which was the real thieft. This is the only way to know where the party that needs to be blamed but im sure the scammers were coming from the team.


Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: alviemery96 on September 22, 2021, 11:33:40 PM
tag this project and that BM if they can't solve this and distribute to the participants the bounty that deserves it.


Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: Cadaver20 on September 23, 2021, 04:51:24 AM
Nafty team said they sent token rewards to sofico and sofico refuse it. I think the Nafty team is lying here. If the Nafty team had sent the token to Sofico, they would have given the transaction hash or some other proof. And sofico is managing many bounties.  They do not want their reputation to be ruined. And the second bounty nafty team has launched itself. You can know more about this from the following topic
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5361121.msg57990808#msg57990808.


Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: rodskee on September 23, 2021, 12:13:32 PM
on June 19th SoficoBounty team launched Nafty bounty campaign and ran it for 4 weeks total pool 100 000 000 $NAFTY Tokens(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5344651.0) and the project promised to pay within 1 month from the end of the bounty campaign, but so far there has not been any action other than the project to change the error to BM for payment and BM to change the error for the project is to scam bounty participants, today the Nafty token project continues to launch a new bounty program with the same content as last time (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5361088.0)
when the first payment and all the troubles about it were not resolved, and Nafty's CMO said that the distribution was completed to Sofico and claimed that Sofico cheated them, and Sofico accused them Nafty project not paying. So who is the right person in this trouble, I hope the two sides will clarify this issue, otherwise we will warn the community and mark the Nafty and Sofico project as one of the scam organizations real to everyone.

Proof of distribution protection: https://imgur.com/FZrpYzQ
CMO Nafty said about Sofico: https://imgur.com/vRYWqmK
Sofico explains: https://imgur.com/nSbvv52
another obvious scam project , if they will be unnoticed ? then their strategy will continue because we have seen so much like this before as the team will conduct another bounty while the recent is still pending .
and after that second bounty the team will gone forever taking the money of the poor investors who had been the effect of the bounty they conducted .
tag this project and that BM if they can't solve this and distribute to the participants the bounty that deserves it.
must be, Hope that DT will visit here or at least create a scam accusation against this team and the BM.


Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: JeffBrad12 on September 23, 2021, 04:32:53 PM
tag this project and that BM if they can't solve this and distribute to the participants the bounty that deserves it.
It's too early to tag BM about that.

This must be solved through doing deep investigation but as per some people said above. The transaction hash becomes the key to solve this problem. Once a party can post a transaction hash related to the token distribution and we can take who has become a theft. If both did not become cooperative and this will take a very long time to solve this problem. The dev or bounty manager must act wisely to post the transaction hash if there's.

It's not about randomly tagging people without enough proof. This can be a boomerang for you. So many similar cases happened in the past. Just hope the manager will come to the scam accusations thread if there's.


Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: ZaraCB on September 23, 2021, 06:09:36 PM
must be, Hope that DT will visit here or at least create a scam accusation against this team and the BM.
Already one of the DT member tagged both of the ID's of Nafty token. A topic has been created in the Reputation board about which the link is in the comment above.  CEO and Sofico are blaming each other. But none of them gave any proof to prove their innocence.


Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: thayes09 on September 27, 2021, 01:56:05 PM
There hasn't been any positive feedback from Nafty and Sofico team even though both are tagged as DT on this forum everyone warned it, people stay away from this project and don't participate in investing or do bounty from them because it will cost you time.


Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: shinratensei_ on September 27, 2021, 02:42:31 PM
people stay away from this project and don't participate in investing or do bounty from them because it will cost you time.
It's quite strange that the manager didn't even wanna recover its name and it seems like there's a chance for sofico to run away with the reward. The only problem is so many hunters didn't even use their eyes to check the trust summary of both. The social media participants will be blatantly participating in the campaign that he managed. The same case with rabbit.
This kind of manager must have got a lot of tags along with the account that was used by the team.


Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: livingfree on September 27, 2021, 09:06:09 PM
Most likely if a project is being said as successful then they have to pay what they have to pay through the bounty hunters. But when a project is hiding its failure, they really can't pay.

So if the issue is with the management team and project itself said that distribution is done and you received nothing, I guess that's it and you know what happened to the project. Another thing might they'll just point their fingers to each other who's at fault.


Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: mexite on September 27, 2021, 10:06:15 PM
It's becoming commonplace for some projects to refuse hunters their reward after the end of the marketing campaign, and most times, participants are helpless unless the project cares about its reputation. In this case of blame game, Nafty team can easily clear the air by sending proof of payment made to the bounty manager, else, they are only toying on the emotions of hunters.


Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: Kanjeung on September 28, 2021, 01:58:23 PM
I saw nafty on the forum, and I asked the sofio community group, they said they didn't know and the nafty company made a bounty program on behalf of the sofio community. so it's all under the responsibility of the community. the account of bitcointalk nafty has been given redtrust by someone, and has been reported.


Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: X-ray on September 28, 2021, 02:55:12 PM
I saw nafty on the forum, and I asked the sofio community group, they said they didn't know and the nafty company made a bounty program on behalf of the sofio community.
that's very strange, someone was stating that if he was asking admin on the telegram group and admin was also creating an announcement about the bounty. it seems like the team was dishonest about that.
so it's all under the responsibility of the community. the account of bitcointalk nafty has been given redtrust by someone, and has been reported.
It's not. If that's the responsibility of the community and then admin would not create an official announcement on its telegram group about the stared of bounty campaign. You can read this message and i was taking this from the telegram group https://t.me/naftydiscussions/34134

CMO of nasty was also publishing marketing plan and it contains bounty as a part of marketing plan. It's quite strange. They were lying about that. it seems like the team was the real scammers.


Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: Gorosden on September 29, 2021, 08:51:12 AM
I had a high hope for this Nafty token but this shows that they aren't reliable, if it's true that they have sent the bounty token to bounty manager they will find it easier to clear their own name by sharing the transaction hash and making it public for every bounty participants to see, prove of transaction using transaction hash is the easiest way out


Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: Cornia on September 29, 2021, 04:20:34 PM
I had a high hope for this Nafty token but this shows that they aren't reliable, if it's true that they have sent the bounty token to bounty manager they will find it easier to clear their own name by sharing the transaction hash and making it public for every bounty participants to see, prove of transaction using transaction hash is the easiest way out
I don't think the Nafty team sent token to Sofico. And so they can't show any transaction hash. Today, however, Bounty Hunters have received very few (1-2%) Nafty tokens. I don't know who sent it, Sofico or the Nafty team.


Title: Re: Is Nafty token project a scam or not?
Post by: Jawadu on October 04, 2021, 07:03:05 AM
Personally, I used to trust Nafty a lot, but for what it did to bounty hunters I lost faith in them! They claimed that their first bounty was full of fraudsters so they decided to recalculate the stakes they received from Sofico on the bounty spreadsheets. But the sad thing is that Nafty decided to pay the bounty hunters very contemptuous rewards! I mean I was supposed to be paid $340 worth of Nafty but I was paid only $6 !!!!, others were supposed to be paid $200 but they were given only $0.5 now what is this if not a scam?!!! To this day they do not respond to our complaints!