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Title: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: hack3rcon on September 29, 2021, 10:09:15 AM
Hello,
I need a cryptocurrency wallet that usable on the Desktop and cell phone. I want to choose from Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet and Guarda. Which one is OK?


Thank you.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: mk4 on September 29, 2021, 10:39:43 AM
Trust wallet seems fine based on feedback I'm seeing. No comment on the other two.

As always, if you're planning on holding bitcoin/crypto that's going to be worth good amounts, grab a reputable hardware wallet.

https://ledger.com/
https://trezor.io/


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: NeuroticFish on September 29, 2021, 10:52:03 AM
If you have significant amounts I also suggest a hardware wallet. For Bitcoin you'll be able to use it on your phone from Mycelium and from your desktop with Electrum or Sparrow wallet.
If you have pennies.. it doesn't matter much.

And I'd advice something more. I've seen that these seem to be multi-currency wallets.
Think well if you want to handle there only Bitcoin or also various altcoins (beware, altcoins are much riskier investment than Bitcoin).
Maybe you should ask in Altcoin Discussion too for opinions.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on September 29, 2021, 10:59:49 AM
Hello,
I need a cryptocurrency wallet that usable on the Desktop and cell phone. I want to choose from Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet and Guarda. Which one is OK?

Among the choices you mentioned trustwallet is the best one. Ive used atomic wallet before also fine but trust is much better. Im not sure on the guarda never tried it before.

But better to use mk4 suggestion for safety purposes.

But if you gonna trade different altcoins then go for trustwallet since thry supported multiple tokens and coins.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: witcher_sense on September 29, 2021, 11:04:27 AM
Frankly speaking, I am not a big fan of wallets that are designed to maintain access to thousands of different cryptocurrencies but if I had to choose one I would consider a wallet that is both open source and feature-rich. One of the wallets that recently came to my attention was a wallet called "Unstoppable wallet". Link: https://github.com/horizontalsystems/unstoppable-wallet-android

What I like about this wallet:
1) it is open-source
2) it is non-custodial
3) it is listed on F-Droid
4) it supports Bitcoin, Ethereum, ERC20, and BEP20 tokens
5) it has a convenient design


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: Oshosondy on September 29, 2021, 11:09:54 AM
I too will go for trust wallet, it will be the best choice for altcoins, but for bitcoin use electrum wallet, it is better on desktop but still having good mobile version.

As always, if you're planning on holding bitcoin/crypto that's going to be worth good amounts, grab a reputable hardware wallet.
https://ledger.com/
https://trezor.io/
Best choice to me too, for better safety and maximum protection.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: hack3rcon on September 29, 2021, 12:05:56 PM
Thank you all.
I need a multi-cryptocurrency wallet that support Desktop too. One of the disadvantages of the Trust Wallet is that, it's just for the mobiles!
Can anyone share his\her experiences about Atomic Wallet and Guarda?


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: Little Mouse on September 29, 2021, 12:11:23 PM
Can anyone share his\her experiences about Atomic Wallet and Guarda?
Atomic wallet had few bugs. I have seen some people reported on reddit. Apart from that, they are a closed source wallet although closed source doesn’t necessarily mean to be a bad one.
Haven’t used Guarda, so have no knowledge on that.

Side note- A hardware wallet isn't so much expensive these days. You may consider going for one to secure your asset. Some wallet supports a lot of coins. So, you will have all the options.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: cheezcarls on September 29, 2021, 12:27:11 PM
For mobile, of course Trust Wallet is what I am using until now. For desktop, it’s better for you to get a hardware wallet like Trezor or Ledger Nano S that is if you have some money to invest. However, it’s worth investing in the hardware wallet coz’ it’s a cold storage and the most secured one in all of the crypto wallets.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: boyptc on September 29, 2021, 12:34:37 PM
I've used Atomic Wallet a few times including the mobile wallet but that's it, nothing bad I experienced w/ it.

If it's only bitcoin and you have no budget for hardware wallet, Electrum best choice.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: hugeblack on September 29, 2021, 12:43:12 PM
Hello,
I need a cryptocurrency wallet that usable on the Desktop and cell phone. I want to choose from Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet and Guarda. Which one is OK?

They are all closed source wallets, so some of them may be more secure than others, but we can't guarantee that?
if we compare Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet and Guarda, trust wil win in my option.

Generally what currencies would you like to Hold and for how long (fees option), New wallet is open source and offers a good number of supported platforms and currencies, there is also MetaMask.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: dkbit98 on September 29, 2021, 12:48:01 PM
I need a cryptocurrency wallet that usable on the Desktop and cell phone. I want to choose from Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet and Guarda. Which one is OK?
I tested all of them when I looked for some wallet that supports multiple currencies, but my conclusion is that all of them are closed source and not good for me.
Best option would be to have some open source hardware wallet like Trezor, or for mobile version check out BlueWallet, Mycellium or maybe Unstoppable wallet for multi coin support.
For desktop computer wallet Electrum and Wasabi are probably best option you can use for Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: hack3rcon on September 29, 2021, 12:56:42 PM
Thank you again.
The Unstoppable Wallet is just for the Mobile and not Desktop :(
I need a wallet that support both of the Desktop and Mobile and support multiple currencies.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: Lucius on September 29, 2021, 01:17:47 PM
@hack3rcon, I found one interesting thread that just doesn’t shed a good light on Guarda and Atomic Wallet, but labels them as projects of the same owner in a series of some others who have reportedly been involved in some very suspicious things. Maybe some who participated in the discussion at the time can say a little more about it (@JollyGood), I didn’t use them personally.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5049346.msg47500532#msg47500532

I need a wallet that support both of the Desktop and Mobile and support multiple currencies.

The only thing that comes to my mind at the moment is Coinomi, which supports mobile and desktop versions.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: suzanne5223 on September 29, 2021, 01:45:55 PM
I won't advise the use of an atomic wallet cause I have once used it back in the early launch of the wallet and I don't like what I experienced using the wallet then though I don't know how the wallet works now or the upgrade done on it. However, the best option you have is Trust and Guarda wallet but I only use Trust wallet.
I recommend Guarda wallet footing the forum member review about it.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: mk4 on September 29, 2021, 04:03:38 PM
Thank you again.
The Unstoppable Wallet is just for the Mobile and not Desktop :(
I need a wallet that support both of the Desktop and Mobile and support multiple currencies.

Quick note that with some wallets, you can simply export your mobile wallet's recovery phrase, then import it to your desktop wallet's recovery phrase(and vice versa) and you're pretty much synchronized. You don't necessarily need to use the same app for both devices(though it depends).


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: LordMiguel on September 29, 2021, 04:42:38 PM
i will go for atomic wallet. since it has a desktop and mobile wallet feature. trust only has mobile wallet and no desktop. i hope they develop a desktop app in the feature. i choose atomic because you can sychronize your atomic mobile wallet with your desktop to see everything. you can also make trade from mobile. you can use dex platforms on the mobile platform to buy and sell. i think Atomic is fast and cheap in transaction than trust.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: Nathrixxx on September 29, 2021, 07:45:42 PM
I will suggest trust wallet or coinomi wallets which are best suitable for mobile and desktop device.

 Features of trust wallet: (https://www3.technologyevaluation.com/solutions/55190/trust-wallet)
Secured access
Multi coin support
Earn interest
Credit card exchange
Support DApps

 Features of coinomi wallet  (https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin-wallet/coinomi-review/)
Its a non custodial wallet
It store private keys to your wallet on your device
SegWit support
No identity linking
No KYÇ
No ip
No transactions tracking
All these unique qualities makes it user friendly with secured security and privacy suitable for both desktop and mobile device



Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: hosseinimr93 on September 29, 2021, 08:24:04 PM
It store private keys to your wallet on your device
As Coinomi is close-source, there is no guarantee that your keys are stored only in your device. You can't be sure your keys are not stored on their server.


No ip
There is no way to know whether they store the IP addresses on their server or not. They may store IP addresses and link them with transactions.  
As long as a wallet is close-source, you cannot know whether they say the truth or not.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: Stalker22 on September 29, 2021, 10:26:31 PM
I've been using Trust Wallet for a long time and I find it easy, secure and convenient. Besides being fast and lightweight, it offers customizable transaction fees and full control of private keys.
However, as others have suggested, mobile wallets are most suitable for daily use and never as a long-term storage method. If you wish to HODL, you should use a hardware wallet or a paper wallet instead.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: pakhitheboss on September 30, 2021, 01:48:15 AM
I have used all three wallets and here are the pros and cons of using them.

Trust Wallet:
Pro -
1. Easy to use
2. Easy to connect to Binance Smart Chain DEX
3. Best for staking BNB
4. Non custodial

Cons -
1. Desktop version is not available
2. Only available for mobile.


Atomic Wallet:
Pro -
1. Easy to use
2. Best for staking AWC
3. You can connect to DEX
4. Both desktop and mobile versions are available
5. Non-custodial

Cons -
1. Very slow
2. Fees are high

Guarda Wallet:
Pro -
1. Both desktop and mobile versions are available
2. Easy to use.
3. You can connect to DEX
4. Non-custodial.
5. Smooth interface.

Cons -
1. High fees



Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: larry_vw_1955 on September 30, 2021, 02:58:57 AM
I would seriously not recommend Guarda wallet at all. The reason being that it's not a simple process to backup the wallet and everytime you add a new coin to the wallet you have to back that coin's wallet upwhich means "creating a new backup". There's not just a single seed phrase in other words. not only that but the actual backup process produces an encrypted file that you can't even read unless you decrypt it which is another kind of pain in the ass/non-standard thing. In order to decrypt it, you have to use the https://guarda.com/utils/backup-decoder/ can you imagine putting your encrypted wallet onto their website so it can be decrypted?? no of course you wouldn't be stupid enough to do that right? so what yo uwould then need to do is download and install the backup decoder on your own machine from their github. but unless you're a bit savvy you wont know how to do that. and just imagine if their github went away and the only way to decode your wallet was by using their online decoder!  :o

i guess you could always load their online decoder and then disconnect from the internet and keep your fingers crossed. I never tried that.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: witcher_sense on September 30, 2021, 05:34:00 AM
Thank you again.
The Unstoppable Wallet is just for the Mobile and not Desktop :(
I need a wallet that support both of the Desktop and Mobile and support multiple currencies.
As far as I understand, your idea is that you want to manage the same tokens on both mobile and desktop, which means you would be using the same private keys to access both wallets. I don't think this is a great idea. From a security perspective, it is even terrible because you essentially widen an attack surface by doing that. For example, if one of your devices is hacked, if either desktop or mobile is compromised, you will lose everything. Compare that to the situation when you have different keys for different wallets, in case you were hacked, you only lost half of what you had. Moreover, I am not aware of any reputable multicurrency wallet that has both desktop and mobile versions. Even if they exist, it doesn't mean their versions are equally secure, because the codebase is different anyway.

If I were in your shoes, I would generate two different sets of keys and imported them to wallets from different vendors. Also, I would keep physical backups of my keys separately in different locations.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: averagestudent on September 30, 2021, 01:15:50 PM
I have used all three wallets and here are the pros and cons of using them.
...

In both Atomic and Guarda, you listed "high fees" as cons. Does this mean these wallets don't support custom fees?

Is there a reputable multicurrency desktop wallet that supports custom fees?


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: ice18 on September 30, 2021, 04:34:34 PM
Im using Trust from my mobile and for multichain wallet on desktop, Im using both Atomic and Exodus wallet, both have great features, but lately I heard some bad experiences from users of Exodus so I just recommend Atomic for now as I did not encounter any issues for using it for almost 2 years now.   


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: ndgo on September 30, 2021, 06:09:46 PM
Is exodus iOS wallet ok? been using it for a month and haven't had any problems. Their btc onramp died but I only used it once. Onramp had oddly low fees... cheaper than coinbase or kraken.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: hosseinimr93 on September 30, 2021, 06:44:07 PM
Is exodus iOS wallet ok? been using it for a month and haven't had any problems.
I have also used Exodus for very small balances and till now, I haven't heard of any security issue with it.
Exodus gives you full control over you keys. Your seed phrase (or your private keys) can be used for recovering your fund in the case Exodus isn't accessible one day for any reason.

The problem is Exodus is close-source and there is no way to know whether your keys are stored on their server or or not.
Exodus may be a good option for keeping small funds and if can't use a hardware wallet for any reason. But I don't recommend it for huge balance.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: Oshosondy on October 01, 2021, 06:57:54 AM
The problem is Exodus is close-source and there is no way to know whether your keys are stored on their server or or not.
Exodus may be a good option for keeping small funds and if can't use a hardware wallet for any reason. But I don't recommend it for huge balance.
Close source wallets can pose risks especially in the future, even they are not good for low amount, it can be a weapon some governments will later use to monitor what people are thinking to be noncustodial.

I have heard of many vulnerabilities before on this forum about Exodus wallet, this is the reason I did not consider to use it.

Customizable transaction fees?
It means you can be able to edit the fee. I am not using trsut wallet, I do not know if it the fee can be customized or not.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: hack3rcon on October 01, 2021, 12:50:09 PM
I have used all three wallets and here are the pros and cons of using them.

Trust Wallet:
Pro -
1. Easy to use
2. Easy to connect to Binance Smart Chain DEX
3. Best for staking BNB
4. Non custodial

Cons -
1. Desktop version is not available
2. Only available for mobile.


Atomic Wallet:
Pro -
1. Easy to use
2. Best for staking AWC
3. You can connect to DEX
4. Both desktop and mobile versions are available
5. Non-custodial

Cons -
1. Very slow
2. Fees are high

Guarda Wallet:
Pro -
1. Both desktop and mobile versions are available
2. Easy to use.
3. You can connect to DEX
4. Non-custodial.
5. Smooth interface.

Cons -
1. High fees



Thank you.
Do you have any experiences with the Coinomi or Exodus?
Thus, you prefer Trust Wallet over other wallets?


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: noorman0 on October 01, 2021, 02:57:40 PM
My experience is quite good with Guarda wallet. I've used the desktop version once in the past to receive an airdrop of a project hosted by the guarda company. This wallet also gives you the privkey and mnemonic phrases for each coin address so you can export the addresses to other wallets.

Unfortunately for bitcoin addresses, Guarda can only generate legacy addresses. Although they claim to be open source wallet on the main page, on the other hand they also state (https://www.reddit.com/r/Guarda/comments/9eltyy/comment/e5wytri/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) that the core code of the wallet is hidden because it is considered their intellectual property.

-snip-
Guarda Wallet:
....

Cons -
1. High fees

Tx fees can be set manually in advanced options, cmiiw


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: NotATether on October 01, 2021, 05:45:08 PM
Atomic Wallet:
Pro -
2. Best for staking AWC

This is actually not a pro, because you can only get AWC from buying it from the app. Swapping currencies doesn't give you any AWC, from my prior usage to it.

It also seems to have a bug that when swapping some currencies (specifically USDT), the amount still remains in your wallet even though it's already swapped - but its cleared if you receive USDT or whatever other currency it was, in a new transaction.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: hack3rcon on October 02, 2021, 05:38:50 AM
I will suggest trust wallet or coinomi wallets which are best suitable for mobile and desktop device.

 Features of trust wallet: (https://www3.technologyevaluation.com/solutions/55190/trust-wallet)
Secured access
Multi coin support
Earn interest
Credit card exchange
Support DApps

 Features of coinomi wallet  (https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin-wallet/coinomi-review/)
Its a non custodial wallet
It store private keys to your wallet on your device
SegWit support
No identity linking
No KYÇ
No ip
No transactions tracking
All these unique qualities makes it user friendly with secured security and privacy suitable for both desktop and mobile device


Hello,
Thank you.
Can Coinomi support all coins that the Trust Wallet supports?
The Trust Wallet need KYC?



My experience is quite good with Guarda wallet. I've used the desktop version once in the past to receive an airdrop of a project hosted by the guarda company. This wallet also gives you the privkey and mnemonic phrases for each coin address so you can export the addresses to other wallets.

Unfortunately for bitcoin addresses, Guarda can only generate legacy addresses. Although they claim to be open source wallet on the main page, on the other hand they also state (https://www.reddit.com/r/Guarda/comments/9eltyy/comment/e5wytri/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) that the core code of the wallet is hidden because it is considered their intellectual property.

-snip-
Guarda Wallet:
....

Cons -
1. High fees

Tx fees can be set manually in advanced options, cmiiw
Hello,
Can you look at https://www.coinomi.com/en/#features (https://www.coinomi.com/en/#features)? The Zero fees feature is interested. Is it for exchanging coins too?

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: Oshosondy on October 04, 2021, 04:10:20 AM
Can Coinomi support all coins that the Trust Wallet supports?
Coinomi support very many cryptocurrencies but I think trust wallet support few more.

The Trust Wallet need KYC?
It is noncustodial, it needs no kyc.

Can you look at https://www.coinomi.com/en/#features (https://www.coinomi.com/en/#features)? The Zero fees feature is interested. Is it for exchanging coins too?
What zero fee feature? No wallet that is noncustodial that will have fee feature, only fee involved are transaction fee which are paid to miners. The exchange feature is third party, you can also exchange on trust wallet.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: libert19 on October 20, 2021, 03:51:05 AM
Can Coinomi support all coins that the Trust Wallet supports?
Coinomi support very many cryptocurrencies but I think trust wallet support few more.

Coinomi supports way more in terms of coins, but since trust supports solana and dot chains, it would have more token supports comparatively.



Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: Oshosondy on October 20, 2021, 06:24:12 AM
Coinomi supports way more in terms of coins, but since trust supports solana and dot chains, it would have more token supports comparatively.
I have not research more about the coin both wallet support but I noticed coinomi is a close source wallet which did not give me a thinking to make the research, but both wallets support many cryptocurrencies but I remembered a time I wanted to use USDT TRC20, I found it hard on coinomi, I later have to use trust wallet, trust wallet support many coins, in fact it support all the coins I wanted to hold when I was still holding altcoins.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: sujonali1819 on October 20, 2021, 06:14:05 PM
Hello,
I need a cryptocurrency wallet that usable on the Desktop and cell phone. I want to choose from Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet and Guarda. Which one is OK?


Thank you.
If you asked me to choose one of them, then I will say it’s Trust Wallet. i have used more than year this Trust wallet. But did not try the guarda and the Atomic wallet. :)

And I always Prefer to use Electrum wallet for pc. but Electrum mobile version is not look good to me.


Title: Re: Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet or Guarda?
Post by: XUR_TIP on October 20, 2021, 07:12:23 PM
I've used atomic wallet for two years already and I can say it's as good as trust wallet, I've even used both for some staking and they work fine just copy your keys to a secured location and you will be fine, I don't know much about guarda wallet I guess many aren't using the wallet