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Title: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: MNbag on October 05, 2021, 07:59:26 PM
I am thinking of putting some of my posts into the language boards like German and Arabic.

Would it be poor taste to export my posts to these boards translated?


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: jackg on October 05, 2021, 08:03:19 PM
Generally if the post is from yourself:
Translate the post (without using an online translator on the whole thing) and link the original post at the bottom to say if was a translation.

If the post was made by someone else, it might be good etiquette to get the poster's permission before doing it but I'd: send a pm, wait a week and then post if they approve or don't respond.


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: Upgrade00 on October 05, 2021, 08:05:29 PM
Do you mean you want to post in German and Arabic boards and then translate then to English or you want to translate your English posts to those languages?

For both cases, you can do that if you're proficient in all the the three languages and can easily translate them.
If you are not proficient in any of them and plan to use Google translate to convert your English post to German or Arabic, that may be in poor taste imo.

There are users on those local boards that translate noteworthy posts on the owners permission, if you make a very helpful posts, you will discover there are native speakers of various languages that would wish to translate it.


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: Magicalking on October 05, 2021, 08:08:50 PM
I am thinking of putting some of my posts into the language boards like German and Arabic.

Would it be poor taste to export my posts to these boards translated?
There is no rule against that as long as it is not done to spam. In my opinion if you're fluent in the language you are free to contribute in local discussions. The people in the local board may not like it if you're not from that country and you're translating your posts there. To some  it might look like you're fishing for merit which is not a good look.


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: Coyster on October 05, 2021, 08:33:02 PM
I am thinking of putting some of my posts into the language boards like German and Arabic.
AFAIK, most of the posts that gets translated from English to other local languages are more often than not, informative posts and guides that are actually very useful for users on the forum, check this thread for example: help me translate my best posts in your local board (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230761.0). The whole reason of wanting to translate a post is cause it's pretty good and you'll want other users who are active in the local boards or who cannot boast of a strong command of the English language to actually benefit from such posts, hence it's translated into their local language.

Having said that, op going through your post history, without the slightest intention to spite you, I actually can't see any post that really should be translated into more languages, and thus if you go ahead trying to translate most of the current posts you have, it could be seen as spamming, it's much better you concentrate on learning and garnering more crypto/forum knowledge, so sometime later, your posts could actually be what people would want to translate to their local languages.


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on October 05, 2021, 08:56:59 PM
I think it's fine so long as you ask for permission from the original poster of the topic and also include the link of the source to your translations.

The purpose of this foeum is to share knowledge, discuss and  learn something about cryptocurrencies. There no evil in translating articles to different communities.


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on October 05, 2021, 09:33:31 PM
Think is not bad for you to translate English to German via the board, but such should be done with precautions, i think you have to follow the normal procedures by obtaining permission from the op which is called original posters before it will come to accomplish or before it will be translated to any board or any language per say, but is advisable and encourageable that any board you want to translate language to, should be a board you belong to, because some board leaders or moderators will not condone such because it will be look like spam to their sight.


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: tranthidung on October 06, 2021, 12:50:52 AM
I am thinking of putting some of my posts into the language boards like German and Arabic.

Would it be poor taste to export my posts to these boards translated?

Some questions and my reminder
  • Why do you want to translate them to other languages?
  • Are you proficient in those languages (German and Arabic) ?
  • It would be fine if you translate it yourself but if you use translation machines, Google translate, ie. you will get troubles. I don't judge your post quality but generally it is non sense when making zero or low value posts, and worse if you do it in multiple boards.
  • If you do above things, you will likely break three rules: #1, #12 and #27 (check below)

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]

12. No duplicate posting in multiple boards (except for re-posting topics in the local language boards if they're translated and re-posting marketplace topics in the altcoin boards if altcoins are accepted).

27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: bitmover on October 06, 2021, 01:44:12 AM
Personally,  I think translations are nice as long as they are well done, specially if done by native speakers.
Local boards usually lack technical content, so translations are quite useful imo.

I created some threads which were translated to other languages.

For example, this one was translated to Portuguese (by me) and to Arabic (by zwei)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3317586.msg34646752#msg34646752

He asked me permission before translating,  which was nice

I had others which were translated as well but I can't remember now.



Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: mk4 on October 06, 2021, 02:04:55 AM
I'd say this comes down to your actual intention.

Translating a post with a crappy half-assed translation just because you want to farm merits? Then you probably should be ashamed of yourself. (in most cases it's totally obvious). On the other hand, translating a post with the genuine intention of sharing the news/article while giving huge emphasis on the source writer, then it's good.


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: Darker45 on October 06, 2021, 02:47:56 AM
Are you a native speaker or perhaps highly fluent in German and Arabic? If not, I'd rather not do it.

Also, are the people in the German and Arabic boards not able to understand English? Because if they do, there might really be no need to do it. But if it's relevant that you start the same discussion in these local boards, then by all means go ahead. But I guess it doesn't have to be literal translations. You could simply create another thread in their own language or perhaps summarize instead of translate the threads that you wish these local boards to be aware of.


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on October 06, 2021, 05:40:53 AM
I am thinking of putting some of my posts into the language boards like German and Arabic.

Would it be poor taste to export my posts to these boards translated?
If you are good german and arabic speaker then go that would be good if your content can be shared on local boards. As long as your content is well written and has substantial quality then I dont see it not possible.

Since its yours no need for any permission of the owner of the topic, just be cautious on doing translation, dont use translating software but do your own interpretations, sometimr using those tools making the words differs from the actual meaning making readers confusion.


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on October 06, 2021, 05:45:40 AM
Do not get me wrong, but it seems to me that you are somewhat exaggerating your importance. Those boards on which you usually leave your posts are visited by users from different countries. And I do not see in your message history those posts that could be further translated.
Of course, as you were told above, you can communicate, if you speak other languages, on boards that you like. But again the question is, is there a need for this?
I can only assume that you are either a merits' hunter, which of course cannot be said at first glance. Either you do not have enough communication on your created topics.
There can be only one piece of advice, go on, you will definitely gather your audience.


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: nakamura12 on October 06, 2021, 06:20:13 AM
It is okay to translate any guide threads or whatever you want to translate as long as you are asking for permission if it is allowed to translate or not. After waiting, if the original poster did allowed you or not to then post it but make sure you included the link of the original post. If the post is from english language then it wouldn't be a good start as most forum users understand english and mostly stay in english language boards like Meta, B&H, bitcoin discussion and more.


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: DdmrDdmr on October 06, 2021, 07:58:42 AM
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Being your own posts that you want to translate, I’d only do that if you can communicate in those other languages properly (i.e. not simply resorting to translation tools), well enough to comment or elaborate on what other people may be saying on your threads. Automated translations are not allowed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0) (see rule 27).

I sometimes translate from English to Spanish or vice-versa some of my posts, although on rare occasions (I did so yesterday), and even so they are not necessarily verbatim translations. I wouldn’t venture to try in other languages I may have slight notions of, not only because the results would be subpar, but because I wouldn’t really be able to comment in a meaningful and intelligible manner within the thread.


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: sujonali1819 on October 06, 2021, 05:05:27 PM
I have seen in some local board posts are translated from English Board by the same poster or from other people. If you want to translate your english Post to your Local Language then it’s okay. But when you will try to Translate post which is done by other you should take the permission from the creator. And You must not use any online/offline tools. :)


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: The Cryptovator on October 06, 2021, 05:24:29 PM
I am really curious to know why you want to translate your post into two local languages. My question is, are you familiar with both languages? I think if the post is useful for the forum users you are free to do the translation. But if the post is worst then I don't think it is useful for the forum. If you are able to translate yourself then it's fine, but you should follow the forum rules. Translating your post in other languages by using any third-party service will be harmful to your account. Always keep in mind if you are going to translate a post from the others you should take permission from him but if you want to translate your post it doesn't necessary to get the permit from others just follow the forum rules. So if you think your post is useful and it will help the forum users then you may proceed with your translation by following forum rules.


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: TheNineClub on October 06, 2021, 06:39:19 PM
It's not in bad taste, it's actually done all the time. I myself have done it and translated it for my local board. That's good work and could earn you a merit or two in the process. Just be sure to contact the author in advance to reserve a language spot if it's not yet taken.


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on October 06, 2021, 07:48:35 PM
Looking at this from my own point of view, I see it as spreading information across borders, but that's only if you are able to translate them yourself and not using a Google translator which will not look professional to readers of that native language.
But moreover, with the help of fiver, you can hirer a professional translator with five star rating to help you do the translation with the least $10 to $50 depending on the word count.

So thats my opinion. Thanks


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: Stalker22 on October 06, 2021, 10:16:27 PM
I am thinking of putting some of my posts into the language boards like German and Arabic.

Would it be poor taste to export my posts to these boards translated?

It depends on the content of your post. Do you think your posts are relevant to the local community? Do you find them to be of value to others and do they offer a useful information? Are they helpful?

If the answer is yes then you should go ahead and put your posts on those boards.


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: Mpamaegbu on October 07, 2021, 04:26:18 PM
But moreover, with the help of fiver, you can hirer a professional translator with five star rating to help you do the translation with the least $10 to $50 depending on the word count.

So thats my opinion. Thanks
OP isn't looking to contract it out to anyone. They want to personally do the translation. But the thing about translation is that it could get OP in trouble if translations aren't genuinely done. I hope OP is proficient in the languages he mentioned to translate into. Otherwise, they risk being tagged for dishonesty. Whatever you do OP,  you should steer clear of using Google translator at all cost.


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: cheezcarls on October 11, 2021, 11:49:16 AM
To be on the safe side, it’s better to ask permission from the original poster to translate it in other languages before posting it. If he or she approves (depending on the terms), it’s better to give credit to the original poster in English language. That’s just my own opinion to be safe and in good terms.


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: Marykeller on October 11, 2021, 09:48:21 PM
I am thinking of putting some of my posts into the language boards like German and Arabic.

Would it be poor taste to export my posts to these boards translated?
Translating posts to any language of your choice is a welcomed idea but don't forget to give accolades to the original poster when posting on a board of your choice. It's a necessity to link the post you got the information from when posting a translated post.
It's better not to translate than using a Google translator for your post "my advice"


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on October 11, 2021, 10:01:19 PM
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Translating posts to any language of your choice is a welcomed idea but don't forget to give accolades to the original poster when posting on a board of your choice. It's a necessity to link the post you got the information from when posting a translated post.
It's better not to translate than using a Google translator for your post "my advice"
Like as i said previously in this thread, translation or translating an existing work of some from English language to a local language or maybe from local language to English is not forbidden, but the necessary thing is that the one that is translating have to put or make the reference source official. And if the work is written by a forum user, i embrace the concept that the ideal to obtain permission from the original source is a welcomed development.


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: ifarted on October 12, 2021, 08:35:41 AM
There's nothing wrong posting in other native languages. Actually it's a good idea. Some even does it all the time but if we are talking about translating like in google. It could be bad since not all google translation are right. However, if you are using another translater that is good, then it should be done. Make sure to put the information about where you had done the translation.

If you know other languages then that would be good too, it could be easier for you to communicate but if you don't know any then it's also okay. It's not really necessary because you can always post in English.


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: LordMiguel on October 12, 2021, 07:38:44 PM
Most people are Okay reading their local language. they understand and read their local language better than English. it is better to follow the advise of the first respondent which is to get a permission from the owner of any post that you feel that is important and need to be translated. you should also know that you will be held responsible if your interpretation is wrong and your reader might make wrong decisions. try as much as possible to make an accurate translation. 


Title: Re: Would it be poor taste to translate existing posts into other languages?
Post by: Gosgosking on October 17, 2021, 06:36:51 AM
Do not stress your about translating posts we have local boards which everyone  can fall in I don't see any reason you should start translating post. You can have a thought of it.