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Title: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: robinator on October 06, 2021, 10:48:17 AM
Tether is used by many and stablecoins are a rising market, but are they really stable?
What makes a stablecoin truly stable and what can we do to assure they are backed 1=1 unlike Tether.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: coinzzzpro on October 06, 2021, 02:37:32 PM
Experience shows that the USDT is relatively stable, but now there are alternatives to the USDC, BUST for example. If you want to trade in pairs to the dollar, it eats on many exchanges.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: masterrex on October 06, 2021, 03:03:17 PM
Tether is used by many and stablecoins are a rising market, but are they really stable?
What makes a stablecoin truly stable and what can we do to assure they are backed 1=1 unlike Tether.

I think the best way to do that is by checking the circulation and total supply of that stable coin, for example, the BUSD a Binance issued stable coin and they said that it was pegged with a dollar in 1-1 ratio and with a total supply of 13 Billion it was relatively small compared to Tether's USDT and because it was issued by one of the worlds trusted names in crypto that's why I feel secure when im using BUSD.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: Synerggy on October 06, 2021, 03:09:32 PM
USDT did the job well, I don't know what you meant by been real stable coin just don't mix things up with how real Fiat is and how unreal digital currencies are, one is physical and the other isn't that's the major difference here so yes USDT, USDC, DAI are all good stable coins, oh and they are real too


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: flip4flop on October 06, 2021, 03:31:31 PM
If I had to choose one stablecoin right now it would likely be USDC. It has the least drama around it and I feel the longest long term viability following whatever regulations and scrutiny stablecoins come after especially after the US fed releases its report on stablecoins in the coming weeks.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: Yogee on October 06, 2021, 03:34:38 PM
Tether is used by many and stablecoins are a rising market, but are they really stable?
Tether is trying to make USDT stable by pulling a lot of moves including the shady ones. It seems they are cleared of charges for now after paying $18.5 million penalty.

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What makes a stablecoin truly stable and what can we do to assure they are backed 1=1 unlike Tether.
Tricky to answer but we cannot really be assured since the performance of companies issuing these centralized or semi-decentralized stable coins is out of our hands.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: MusaMohamed on October 06, 2021, 03:44:26 PM
Many stable coins and the biggest one is Tether USD. If you consider the decentralization is the most important specification, DAI is the best. BUSD is good because you can use it for many products from Binance, on Binance Smart Chain, DeFi.

The position of Tether USD is losing and you now don't have to rely on Tether USD. BUSD and DAI are good alternatives.

Category for stablecoins

https://coinmarketcap.com/view/stablecoin/
https://www.coingecko.com/en/categories/stablecoins


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: josephdd1 on October 06, 2021, 04:06:09 PM
Tether is used by many and stablecoins are a rising market, but are they really stable?
What makes a stablecoin truly stable and what can we do to assure they are backed 1=1 unlike Tether.

There are two types of stable coins. Those that are backed by gold, other crypto currencies or dollars and those that are algorithmic and don't have any collateral.

Algorithmic stable coins (AMPL, BAC и ESD) depend a lot on the general market situation, as if there is a panic on the market, it is very difficult for them to stay stable, so they collapse more often.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: Betaj00 on October 06, 2021, 04:32:19 PM
Tether is used by many and stablecoins are a rising market, but are they really stable?

Off course Tether is a stable coin in crypto market, but i don’t know that why you asked this question. Always i use Tether for my regular crypto work, also have many different type stable coin but my choice is only Tether.           


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: zasad@ on October 06, 2021, 04:42:48 PM
Tether is used by many and stablecoins are a rising market, but are they really stable?
What makes a stablecoin truly stable and what can we do to assure they are backed 1=1 unlike Tether.
Stablecoins and Blacklists
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247581
Read the latest posts in this thread
If a company can print stablecoins uncontrollably, then this is a potential scam.
It is better to use DAI for long term storage.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: Yudhisthir on October 06, 2021, 04:51:37 PM
Tether is used by many and stablecoins are a rising market, but are they really stable?
What makes a stablecoin truly stable and what can we do to assure they are backed 1=1 unlike Tether.

I use Tether for immediate transactions and trade but never hold them. They are mostly unavoidable as they become the only route through for many exchanges. Among all the stable coins, the one which would be safest is DAI. They did have some problems in the past but not they are backed by a multiple of coins including USDC. That said, it would suffer even a few of those coins crashes. That makes them a stable among the stable coins.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: JeffBrad12 on October 06, 2021, 10:46:06 PM
Tether is used by many and stablecoins are a rising market, but are they really stable?
Yes, they are. All stable coins have been using the same mechanism.
What makes a stablecoin truly stable and what can we do to assure they are backed 1=1 unlike Tether.
You have lots of options to be chosen as an alternative stable coin. USDC, PAX stable coin, and many more. The price of a stable coin was stable although it may drop a little bit it can still keep its value to be equal with dollar.
You can always try to check the regular audit that will always be provided by any stable coin provider to make sure if that was fully backed equally with the dollar. I meant the reserver fund will be 1:1 with the total issued token or equally.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: livingfree on October 06, 2021, 11:48:35 PM
Its volatility is very low and that's why it moves sometimes with lesser centavos than $1. But if you're going to use Tether.

I would second the suggestion that it's better for you to use the other decentralized stable coins like DAI.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: tippytoes on October 06, 2021, 11:52:35 PM
Its volatility is very low and that's why it moves sometimes with lesser centavos than $1. But if you're going to use Tether.

I would second the suggestion that it's better for you to use the other decentralized stable coins like DAI.

Sometimes it is hard to trust stablecoins because we don't know the ultimate truth about their assets. Just like USDT, are we 100% sure that they are backed by USD assets up until now? If anyone remembers here, way back in 2019, Tether admitted that they were not fully backed. And now, do you think they are telling the truth here? So what I am saying is, it is good to venture in stablecoin if they do have actual backing. That is for you to learn more about their assets.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: cabron on October 07, 2021, 12:14:47 AM

Stablecoins are real, you can exchange them for local currency when you have them. Whichever created like Circle's TUSD, Gemini, Binance USD, Coinbase USDC and so on they are real. We just don't know if they are indeed backed by real USD.

While we are discussing stablecoins, I just wanted to insert this article about SEC wanted to regulate stablecoins.
They are still trying to regulated crypto, they won't give up that easily like China did that bans all areas of cryptocurrency.

SEC Subpoenas USDC Stablecoin Backer Circle
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/10/05/sec-subpoenas-usdc-stablecoin-backer-circle/


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: fadil46 on October 07, 2021, 01:27:24 AM
Experience shows that the USDT is relatively stable, but now there are alternatives to the USDC, BUST for example. If you want to trade in pairs to the dollar, it eats on many exchanges.
Now there are many choices for stablecoins in cryptocurrency exchanges, not only about USDC and BUSD, but there are also many others, only the most commonly used is USDT because there are so many pairs.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: Capt00 on October 07, 2021, 02:38:16 AM
Tether (USDT) (market cap $62 billion) and USD Coin (USDC0) (market cap $ 27,3 billion) are, in my opinion, the most popular fiat-collateralized stablecoins today. Stablecoins are backed by commodities such as precious metals, gold, silver, real estate, or oil.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: Sollaes on October 07, 2021, 03:46:39 AM
Tether is used by many and stablecoins are a rising market, but are they really stable?
What makes a stablecoin truly stable and what can we do to assure they are backed 1=1 unlike Tether.
To assure that stable coins are backed by something, audits are organised. Actually, Tether has passed several audits, but it is still unclear wether it has this collateral or not. Nevertheless, people trust this coin and continue using it. As long as people use it, it will be stable. But in case of different officially confirmed bad news, people can start get rid of it very fast and it will lose its value.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: asriloni on October 07, 2021, 04:37:57 AM
They will never be called as stable coin if they were not having stable value without being affected by the volatility that happened in the market. I think that you're missing something here but the problem is lack of transparency about the reserved funds to backed the stable tokens. All of the price of stable coin will be stable until the company can't prove if they didn't have reserved fund to backed it and that will make the price can plunged. As far as I know that if tether has ever got plunged so hard caused by that. The reserved funds have become a very important thing to make sure if the price can be stable or at least it removes the volatility.

The commodity that used to backed the token was the main thing to keep the value of stable coin become stable. Just try to read the financial report that published by the stable coin issuers.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: RussianEnglishTranslation on October 07, 2021, 04:47:30 AM
Tether is used by many and stablecoins are a rising market, but are they really stable?
What makes a stablecoin truly stable and what can we do to assure they are backed 1=1 unlike Tether.
My favorite stablecoin is MIM, which is like DAI and Spell is the token that backs it. Holding spell is much more profitable than holding MKR and MIM has more liquidity on different chains than DAI.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: RokokGudangGaram on October 07, 2021, 06:38:44 AM
USDT, DAI, TUSD, BUSD, USDC there's a lot of stable coins it the market and they are all backed with real $ I'm not sure about the others I mostly use the USDT and I think you can find on their website how they were backed up by $ I just use it because many people use it and it has the most known stablecoins in the market.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: livingfree on October 07, 2021, 07:51:57 AM
Its volatility is very low and that's why it moves sometimes with lesser centavos than $1. But if you're going to use Tether.

I would second the suggestion that it's better for you to use the other decentralized stable coins like DAI.

Sometimes it is hard to trust stablecoins because we don't know the ultimate truth about their assets. Just like USDT, are we 100% sure that they are backed by USD assets up until now? If anyone remembers here, way back in 2019, Tether admitted that they were not fully backed. And now, do you think they are telling the truth here? So what I am saying is, it is good to venture in stablecoin if they do have actual backing. That is for you to learn more about their assets.
Just don't trust all of them.

They might have real treasury and back up but if you like it, you choose to convert into decentralized stable coins. No manipulation, no sudden freezing and you can transfer whenever you want.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: danherbias07 on October 07, 2021, 08:02:56 AM
Tether is used by many and stablecoins are a rising market, but are they really stable?
What makes a stablecoin truly stable and what can we do to assure they are backed 1=1 unlike Tether.

I think the best way to do that is by checking the circulation and total supply of that stable coin, for example, the BUSD a Binance issued stable coin and they said that it was pegged with a dollar in 1-1 ratio and with a total supply of 13 Billion it was relatively small compared to Tether's USDT and because it was issued by one of the worlds trusted names in crypto that's why I feel secure when im using BUSD.
I feel the same way. BUSD do have the money from all the profits they made in their exchange. I don't know about Tether, it was already doubted years ago but I don't why they still continue. I'll accept the small amount backed by USD because you can tell it is real unlike others. But this is just my opinion as a user, I don't understand some technicalities about it.
Plus, since I am using the exchange I don't need to go so far because they are targetting to pair it with other coins just like what they did with BNB.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: yazher on October 07, 2021, 08:03:14 AM
When it was USDT all alone, you can have any doubt about it but right now we have many choices that came up from some of our trusted sources like BUSD and other reliable stable coins. There are lots you can do with the stable coins and one of the useful things you can do with it is when the market is congested and you cannot convert your altcoins to fiat, you can use stable coins temporary to preserve the original price of the price when it was at its ATH. Because the crypto currency market can be brutal sometimes when you are late for just an hour or two, the price might not be at ATH anymore, or worse it is reduced at half.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: tvplus006 on October 07, 2021, 09:29:32 AM
Tether is used by many and stablecoins are a rising market, but are they really stable?...

A characteristic difference between a stablecoin is that there are centralized stablecoins and decentralized ones. I think you understand what this difference is? The first decentralized stablecoin on the Ethereum blockchain is DAI, which developers call the "hard currency of the 21st century".


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: el kaka22 on October 07, 2021, 09:34:39 AM
All stablecoins are decentralized coins that exchanges or others have used and created so far. Which means that you need to know which one is the best by looking at who supports it. This is why I am most comfortable with BUSD right now, because it is backed by binance itself, unless binance screws up and destroys it, there is no situation in the world where BUSD would collapse. This is why I prefer that one.

I am sure there are some others that people would prefer based on who supports it, but USDT never made any logic to me, obviously it is high because that was the first one that came out and people used it and it became popular so it is harder to dethrone it right now. However, it is obvious that there were absolutely no problems with Tether at the time as well, nowadays Tether is looked a little bit more shady and that is why it is losing some credibility.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: Dr.Osh on October 07, 2021, 09:41:40 AM
Tether is used by many and stablecoins are a rising market, but are they really stable?
What makes a stablecoin truly stable and what can we do to assure they are backed 1=1 unlike Tether.
So far, I'm using USDT, when the price goes up and down, since the price of bitcoin is still quite cheap, until the price is as high as it is today, the price of USDT remains $1. however, many stable coins out there like USDC, BUSD, and others, have the same way of stabilizing their coins, which is backed up with real money.
even though it's like that, a lot of negative news like that isn't really backed up 100% or anything like that. So far I also don't know how to make sure of that. You can search for news about stable coin companies that may have been checked by the government or the private sector.
however, the years I used it, it was very stable.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: Doell on October 07, 2021, 09:55:30 AM
busd usdc usdt stablecoin that claim 1:1 I think it's enough to just hold fiat better than other stable coin in crypto market ,in my mind the average stablecoin takes profits too yes even though it seems a little but if you have large funds such as whales or companies then it feels big too ,and I in the cypto market take a lot of risk investing in unstable alt because the long term returns are satisfactory with the funds minimalist and economical


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: kryptqnick on October 07, 2021, 10:18:38 AM
Tether is used by many and stablecoins are a rising market, but are they really stable?
What makes a stablecoin truly stable and what can we do to assure they are backed 1=1 unlike Tether.
You're right to ask that question because here's the neat part: they're not. There's no way of knowing that Tether or any other stablecoin is actually fully backed up with anything. So there's a good chance they're not or otherwise the company would surely be happy to provide the proofs and brag about it. That means, in turn, that it's all a very dangerous game that works as long as there's a lot of liquidity and trust in Tether. But if anything happened that suddenly motivated the majority to sell all their Tether and keep their belongings is other cryptos, it would probably lead to a disastrous explosion of the price.


Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: mafoja1 on October 07, 2021, 12:46:19 PM
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Title: Re: Are there any real stablecoins?
Post by: Jawadu on October 07, 2021, 10:35:14 PM
I use 3 stablecoins for different activities, Tether TRC20 for transactions because it has the cheaper fees and quick transactions (most of the time I use Gate exchange because they charge 0 when withdrawing Tether in TRC20 network), I use BUSD anytime when I want to hold some amount when checking the markets for any profit opportunity in Binance because I am a day trader, I use DAI for holding large amounts when I don't want to convert my crypto to fiat.