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Title: ASIC Miner Order (aisenminer.top) SCAM ?
Post by: GermanMiner21 on October 07, 2021, 10:10:40 AM
Moin Moin dear mining community,
I have a small, humble question do you know the Aisen A1 Pro from aisenminer.top?
Has anyone ever ordered from the boys?
Although I have an A1 miner (bought in DE), I also came to the manufacturer from the web interface and ordered the new A3 miner there.
Now I am waiting for the reaction from the manufacturer, so far I haven't heard from them and have already sent $ 10,000 to the company via BTC.

I wrote an email to them again today but it came back.
I thought that was funny because I went to the side and lo and behold, she is Down! Can of course have technical reasons but think it's funny.

Can anyone tell me more about it?

Kind regards


Title: Re: ASIC Miner Order (aisenminer.top)
Post by: kano on October 07, 2021, 10:38:10 AM
The Aisen A1 Pro sounds like a refurbished old miner when googling shows it at only 23TH/s and 2200W ...

That performance dates back a few years at least.
Even an old S9 can get a H/J like that but at a lower hash rate.

If you paid $10k for a 23TH/s miner, you were ripped off.
You can find them way overpriced for around $1500

Sounds like aisenminer.top is a bunch of scammers


Title: Re: ASIC Miner Order (aisenminer.top)
Post by: GermanMiner21 on October 07, 2021, 10:48:09 AM
I paid $ 1800 per device for the new A3 miner from those.
The miner is supposed to do 60TH / s.
They also offered me to buy a sample first.
(eMail from the provider)
Hello!

This is a new product. There is still little of it on the market. You can order 1 piece per sample. Remaining in stock for today - 3 pieces. Are you ready to place an order?

End

And since I already have an A1 miner, please come to the manufacturer via the web interface.
I assumed that the manufacturer is serious like BitMain.

I did some research on the internet and found the following article.


https://theretaildetail.us/2021/03/19/running-a-used-aisen-a1-lovecore-miner-a-miners-experience/


What's your opinion ?


Title: Re: ASIC Miner Order (aisenminer.top) SCAM ?
Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on October 07, 2021, 12:53:29 PM
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I paid $ 1800 per device for the new A3 miner from those.
The miner is supposed to do 60TH / s.
Unless it is using very old 16nm chips (cheap) and pulling over something like 5kw because of the old tech, this screams SCAM. The cost is far too low for a 60TH miner.


Title: Re: ASIC Miner Order (aisenminer.top) SCAM ?
Post by: GermanMiner21 on October 07, 2021, 02:18:02 PM
How can that be done? How high is the probability that the site will go offline after the purchase?
Visit the site often and have compared on scam sites (Bitmain, Innosilicon, Canaan.)
They would still try to scam more customers.

Or am I just thinking stupid?
https://www.asicminervalue.com/
A1 Published May 2021


Title: Re: ASIC Miner Order (aisenminer.top)
Post by: stompix on October 07, 2021, 03:14:26 PM
The website is offline right now, preparing for "something cool" so I have no clue what they were advertising
and the last archived page doens't look good either:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200508175514/http://aisenminer.top/

I paid $ 1800 per device for the new A3 miner from those.
The miner is supposed to do 60TH / s.
They also offered me to buy a sample first.

So you buy a sample, that means a unit, just like you would place a normal order, that's not really an offer!
60TH for 1800$ is simply not believable at this point.
The gear would match an S17 or an M21 and you can't get those even used for under 3000$.

I did some research on the internet and found the following article.
https://theretaildetail.us/2021/03/19/running-a-used-aisen-a1-lovecore-miner-a-miners-experience/
What's your opinion ?

It's 2021, not 2019, comparing the efficiency of this gear with an S9 is simply wrong, compare it to the best you have on the market and then you have some true perspective on efficiency. Your A1 has around 0.09j/Gh, the S17 0.04, S19 0.03.

That being said, I'm really curious what this A1 of yours is, looks like some less efficient copy of Inno T2 HF+ from the picture I've seen.


Title: Re: ASIC Miner Order (aisenminer.top) SCAM ?
Post by: GermanMiner21 on October 07, 2021, 05:38:13 PM
I've already seen the archive page, but I definitely know that the page was up and running for 6-7 months.
Since I hardly think that I am the first and last and as I said, I own an A1 miner that makes 23.516 th / s.
https://bilderupload.org/image/9f6228430-a1-miner.jpg


Title: Re: ASIC Miner Order (aisenminer.top) SCAM ?
Post by: GermanMiner21 on October 07, 2021, 06:00:15 PM
I've already seen the archive page, but I definitely know that the page was up and running for 6-7 months.
Since I hardly think that I am the first and last and as I said, I own an A1 miner that makes 23.516 th / s.
https://bilderupload.org/image/9f6228430-a1-miner.jpg
Quote
It's 2021, not 2019, comparing the efficiency of this gear with an S9 is simply wrong, compare it to the best you have on the market and then you have some true perspective on efficiency. Your A1 has around 0.09j/Gh, the S17 0.04, S19 0.03.

That being said, I'm really curious what this A1 of yours is, looks like some less efficient copy of Inno T2 HF+ from the picture I've seen.


Operation of a used Aisen a1 LoveCore miner - the experience of a miner.
Posted on March 19, 2021 by Amy Barnes


Title: Re: ASIC Miner Order (aisenminer.top) SCAM ?
Post by: stompix on October 07, 2021, 06:21:30 PM
Operation of a used Aisen a1 LoveCore miner - the experience of a miner.
Posted on March 19, 2021 by Amy Barnes

Exactly my point, he made a review about a piece of gear that is near obsolete right now and compared it to another one on the brink of extinction, it's like reviewing Blackberry phones.

Quote
Overall, the performance is more efficient then the s9 when maximum wattage is divided into the TH performance. The console is much more limited when compared to Braiins OS on an s9, which is one downside.

This aside, again 60TH for $1800 even at 0.04j/Gh, nope, not going to happen.
They could have easily sold it for twice the amount in a matter of minutes and not even needed to offer samples or something else.







Title: Re: ASIC Miner Order (aisenminer.top) SCAM ?
Post by: GermanMiner21 on October 08, 2021, 07:27:59 AM
Operation of a used Aisen a1 LoveCore miner - the experience of a miner.
Posted on March 19, 2021 by Amy Barnes

Exactly my point, he made a review about a piece of gear that is near obsolete right now and compared it to another one on the brink of extinction, it's like reviewing Blackberry phones.

Quote
Overall, the performance is more efficient then the s9 when maximum wattage is divided into the TH performance. The console is much more limited when compared to Braiins OS on an s9, which is one downside.

This aside, again 60TH for $1800 even at 0.04j/Gh, nope, not going to happen.
They could have easily sold it for twice the amount in a matter of minutes and not even needed to offer samples or something else.

Mail from 5.10
Hello!
This is a new product. There is still little of it on the market. You can order 1 piece per sample. Remaining in stock for today - 3 pieces. You are ready to place an order?


Title: Re: ASIC Miner Order (aisenminer.top) SCAM ?
Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on October 08, 2021, 12:37:33 PM
Sounds like the scammers are really itching to get your money (and then ignore you)....
A trustworthy seller will not pursue buyers for 1 or 2 miners.