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Title: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: ILuckyGuyI on October 07, 2021, 11:28:17 AM
https://i.ibb.co/sCJckbb/euroleague.png (https://ibb.co/7QNB8jj)

Hello guys. I have realized that there is no topic about the current season of the Euroleague. And as a big fan of the tournament, I wanted to open the topic.  ;D  I'm expecting your support and contribution to the topic to discuss everything about the Euroleague.

The last champions in the tournament were: Anadolu Efes

The 2022 Final Four is going to be held in Berlin.

https://i.ibb.co/KV5vv29/2022-final-four-berlin.png (https://ibb.co/tYHrrqb)

The current standings after the round 1 is like this:

https://i.ibb.co/1v32gLM/standings.png (https://ibb.co/M2bNvsf)

And the full results of the first week are like this:

https://i.ibb.co/jM9bRLj/round-1-results.png (https://ibb.co/R0GYyCJ)

In the first round, the most attracting game for me was Real Madrid - Anadolu Efes. I remember the awesome series between these teams in the quarter final of last season. Anadolu Efes managed to eliminate them by 3-2 in total. This was a revenge game for Real Madrid and they got a decent win by 82-69. The last champions Anadolu Efes must be unpleased with the result but I believe that they will gather themselves up.

The next games in the round 2 are:

https://i.ibb.co/t3ff4Kp/round-2-fixture.png (https://ibb.co/kMnnxB2)

I see that another awesome game is waiting for us which is Anadolu Efes - CSKA Moscow. CSKA also lost their first game to Olimpia Milano. So, these teams both will be very eager to win. As a result, I believe that we will watch a highly competitive game and my favourite to win is Anadolu Efes by a close gap.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: ILuckyGuyI on October 07, 2021, 11:09:15 PM
The first games have been played and the full results are like this:

https://i.ibb.co/HF9LPSL/results.png (https://imgbb.com/)

I think that the game of the day was absolutely Panathinaikos - Fenerbahce. It ended by a very close margin and the last moments were incredibly exciting and amazing. Panathinaikos were 5 points behind while there were 40 seconds left to the end. Everyone started thinking that Fenerbahce were going to keep the gap at a decent level and win the game. But Panathinaikos made an insane comeback. Thanks to the unsportsmanlike fouls, they started a 9-0 series by free-throws and managed to win the game by 91-87 too. What a game!


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: ILuckyGuyI on October 08, 2021, 10:27:21 PM
And we have the results of the remaining games today also:

https://i.ibb.co/XZ7Kydy/oct-8-results.png (https://imgbb.com/)

Anadolu Efes - CSKA Moscow game was just the game of the night. It was a very high-scoring game and I really liked to watch it. CSKA Moscow were in Istanbul without two of their star players. But even without them, they managed to get a very tough win by 100-96. Late in the third quarter of the game, CSKA Moscow were leading by 16 points. But still, the last champions Anadolu Efes made a huge comeback and dropped the point gap a lot. If they didn't make a mistake in the last moments, maybe they would win. But the game was really exciting in especially in the last quarter. Anadolu Efes played their first two games against the favourites of this tournament and lost both of them unfortunately. But I believe that they will bounce back from this in the coming games.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: ingiltere on October 26, 2021, 09:52:53 PM
Today Barcelona won in last ball. I didn't know Devin Booker is in Türkiye now, that's a good addition for Beko. They still hold Vesely and Guduric, these guys usually carry the team. Barcelona is way better this season though, they have Mirotic, Calathes and Higgins. Although I still don't understand why they got Sertaç Şanlı, he started but only played seven minutes.
Barcelona is 6-0 now. Olimpia Milano is following them with 5-1. Efes and Panathinaikos started pretty bad, they only won one match and Zalgiris is the only team that don't have a win yet. I don't know if Olimpia Milano continue their performance but I'm pretty sure we will see Barcelona, Olympiakos and CSKA Moscow in Final Four this season.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on October 26, 2021, 11:48:22 PM
In past we already had topic about Euroleague, unfortunately it wasn't popular. I hope this time things will be better.
Fenerbahche - Barcelona was a great game. Barca won thanks to Mirotic difficult buzzer-beater and now they are only team undefeated.

Efes and Panathinaikos started pretty bad, they only won one match and Zalgiris is the only team that don't have a win yet. I don't know if Olimpia Milano continue their performance but I'm pretty sure we will see Barcelona, Olympiakos and CSKA Moscow in Final Four this season.
In previous seasons Efes also had slow start, but later they turned into big force. I think something similar will happen this year.
Panathinaikos don't have playoff quality squad, their result isn't surprising for me. Agree about Barca and CSKA, not so sure about Olympiakos. There will be quite a lot teams who potential to reach playoffs - Olimpia, Maccabi, Efes. Even Baskonia, Zenit or Monaco have potential for it.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on October 28, 2021, 11:29:39 PM
Today Barca got first defeat this season. Maccabi beat them 85:68 at home. Even their win is surprise, don't even talk about that they won by big margin.
Fenerbahche is extremely unlucky this week. First they lost to Barca after Mirotic buzzer-beater, today their former player Sloukas killed them in last seconds.
Double week will end with 5 games on Friday and Monaco - CSKA looks most interesting from these.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: ILuckyGuyI on January 06, 2022, 09:06:47 AM
Covid-19 has affected the Euroleague in a very bad way. I see so many teams that missed one or more games in the season. In Round 18, only four games were playable. These games and results were like this:

https://i.ibb.co/pZPM1c2/round-18.png (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/WtwsMts/round-18.png (https://imgbb.com/)

And the fixture in Round 19 is like this:

https://i.ibb.co/YcqLcm9/round-19.png (https://ibb.co/v3Kj3p5)

But there are already so many games postponed on this week. Actually, all of the games has been postponed except the game between Olimpia Milano and Zenit.

And the current look of the standings is like this:

https://i.ibb.co/djmb1xb/standings.png (https://ibb.co/34RfGQf)

Barcelona and Real Madrid have been the most impressive teams so far as they both lost only for three times. They are the biggest candidates of the title this season. However, we never know what happens in the playoffs. For example, CSKA Moscow have been the most surprising team so far to me as they lost too many games. But who knows, maybe they will show a wonderful performance in the playoffs and even win the title.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on January 06, 2022, 06:01:20 PM
And last game of round between Olimpia and Zenit got postponed too. Now some teams haven't played Euroleague game for almost month. With so many postponements, I'm not sure how they will find new dates for games. Probably we will have many double weeks where all teams will play 2 games.

Barcelona and Real Madrid have been the most impressive teams so far as they both lost only for three times. They are the biggest candidates of the title this season. However, we never know what happens in the playoffs. For example, CSKA Moscow have been the most surprising team so far to me as they lost too many games. But who knows, maybe they will show a wonderful performance in the playoffs and even win the title.

For me Barca looks most solid and stable team so far and I think they're main contender to win title.
CSKA and current champions Anadolu Efes looks disappointing, but it's not first time when first part of season isn't good for them.
And Unics is biggest surprise. Before season I saw them fighting for 8-10 places, but now they look capable to reach Final Four.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: püsür on May 02, 2022, 07:57:46 AM
Anadolu Efes had a terrible regular season after being the champions last year but in the playoffs they were surprisingly good and after defeating Armani Milan 3-1, they qualified for the Final Four. It is not rather surprising actually because they have a good team and two big stars, after their regular season results I don't think anyone was expecting this. It is of course still questionable how successful they can be in the Final Four but as the last champions, we can still expect a success from them.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on May 02, 2022, 07:38:32 PM
Anadolu Efes had a terrible regular season after being the champions last year but in the playoffs they were surprisingly good and after defeating Armani Milan 3-1, they qualified for the Final Four. It is not rather surprising actually because they have a good team and two big stars, after their regular season results I don't think anyone was expecting this. It is of course still questionable how successful they can be in the Final Four but as the last champions, we can still expect a success from them.
It's not something new - Efes had bad start of regular season, but eventually they started to play well and reached Final 4. What is surprising that Barca struggling against Bayern, we will have Game 5 tomorrow. Bayern on paper isn't something special, they don't have big names in their roster. If they will eliminate Barca, it will be huge sensation.
Monaco - Olympiacos is another series which reached game 5. Games between these teams is great to watch and even Kevin Durant liked it. He was in game 4 and planning to attend Game 5 to support former teammate Mike James.
Meanwhile Real didn't had any problems against Maccabi and won 3:0.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: Pulsar77 on May 02, 2022, 08:28:27 PM
I really admire the efforts of Bayern Munich and Monaco both against Barcelona and Olympiacos now. Both of the series are tied 2-2 now. And in two days, the last teams of final four are going to be decided. I wonder whether we will see a surprise here. And Anadolu Efes have shown such a great effort until reaching final four. I wasn't even sure about whether they were going to finish the regular season in top 8. But they have done much better so far. And as a Turkish supporter, I would like to see Anadolu Efes making it to the finale at least too.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: püsür on May 02, 2022, 08:51:53 PM
Anadolu Efes had a terrible regular season after being the champions last year but in the playoffs they were surprisingly good and after defeating Armani Milan 3-1, they qualified for the Final Four. It is not rather surprising actually because they have a good team and two big stars, after their regular season results I don't think anyone was expecting this. It is of course still questionable how successful they can be in the Final Four but as the last champions, we can still expect a success from them.
It's not something new - Efes had bad start of regular season, but eventually they started to play well and reached Final 4. What is surprising that Barca struggling against Bayern, we will have Game 5 tomorrow. Bayern on paper isn't something special, they don't have big names in their roster. If they will eliminate Barca, it will be huge sensation.
Monaco - Olympiacos is another series which reached game 5. Games between these teams is great to watch and even Kevin Durant liked it. He was in game 4 and planning to attend Game 5 to support former teammate Mike James.
Meanwhile Real didn't had any problems against Maccabi and won 3:0.
Yes, Bayern Munich made a big surprise already and if they managed to get the series, it will be really really huge. In the last game, they stopped Barça at 52 points for the whole game. That was really impressive. It can be argued that it is because Barça's poor performance but I want to give credit to Bayern. Compare to Bayern and especially budget-wise, it would be a no match between the size of the two teams. So, really big respect to Bayern. Although winning the series seem like a hard nut to crack for them.

On the other hand, Real indeed had any problem against Maccabi at all. Which I found quite surprising. Maccabi is Maccabi and they are almost always very strong in the euroleague. Real had relatively very easy series against them.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on May 02, 2022, 10:25:10 PM
Yes, Bayern Munich made a big surprise already and if they managed to get the series, it will be really really huge. In the last game, they stopped Barça at 52 points for the whole game. That was really impressive. It can be argued that it is because Barça's poor performance but I want to give credit to Bayern. Compare to Bayern and especially budget-wise, it would be a no match between the size of the two teams. So, really big respect to Bayern. Although winning the series seem like a hard nut to crack for them.

On the other hand, Real indeed had any problem against Maccabi at all. Which I found quite surprising. Maccabi is Maccabi and they are almost always very strong in the euroleague. Real had relatively very easy series against them.
These low scoring, defensive games between Barca and Bayern isn't that eye-catching to watch, especially after switching from Monaco - Olympiacos games.But so far it worked for Bayern. Barca is favorites still, but their players might be under pressure, nobody didn't expected that 5 games will be needed.
For Maccabi best what they could achieve was winning one game, butthey were far from it. After all, they reached playoffs after long break. I think they never reached it in current competition format when all teams play each other.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: püsür on May 19, 2022, 10:44:02 AM
Today the Final Four games are starting. First, Olympiacos Piraeus vs Anadolu Efes Istanbul. And the second game is Barcelona vs Real Madrid. Barcelona had a very good season that they finished at the top and Nikola Mirotic is the season MVP. They seem like the favourite against Real Madrid in my opinion. On the other game, 6th regular season spot and last champion Efes Pilsen had a good playoffs run after the struggling regular season. They kept most the players from last year like Micic, Larkin and Pleiss. Against the second best team in the regular season, Olympiacos Piraeus, I think they will have a hard game. It is up to the experience at this point. Olympiacos Piraeus have also great players who had a great season like Printezis, Sloukas, Vezenkov. Especially the first game will be quite enjoyable to watch.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: Boristhecat on May 19, 2022, 11:05:36 AM
Today the Final Four games are starting. First, Olympiacos Piraeus vs Anadolu Efes Istanbul. And the second game is Barcelona vs Real Madrid. Barcelona had a very good season that they finished at the top and Nikola Mirotic is the season MVP. They seem like the favourite against Real Madrid in my opinion. On the other game, 6th regular season spot and last champion Efes Pilsen had a good playoffs run after the struggling regular season. They kept most the players from last year like Micic, Larkin and Pleiss. Against the second best team in the regular season, Olympiacos Piraeus, I think they will have a hard game. It is up to the experience at this point. Olympiacos Piraeus have also great players who had a great season like Printezis, Sloukas, Vezenkov. Especially the first game will be quite enjoyable to watch.

Barcelona looks like a favorite even in bookmakers' estimates for the title:

Barcelona 2.60

Anadolu Ephesus 3.75

Olympiacos Piraeus 4.70

Real Madrid 4.75

Ephesus is rated a little better than Olympiacos, probably because of the status, but it seems to me that in fact their chances are equal. Real outsider. Most likely, the chances in the Barcelona-Real pair will not change, but in the Ephesus-Olympiacos pair, I expect that after a couple of games the quotes will become equal.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on May 19, 2022, 03:56:15 PM
On paper Efes is better team than Olympiacos, but I don't see them having any advantage.  Oly will have huge support from fans in Belgrade. But my money is on Efes.
Barcelona this season won all their games against Real and few of it were easy. But in late part of season Real started to look better, so Barca isn't that big favorite.
I really wish to see repeat of last season final Efes - Barca.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: CLS63 on May 19, 2022, 07:48:43 PM
In the first game of the Final Four, Anadolu Efes and Olympiacos played against each other. Even though the game was played in a neutral location in Belgrad, Olympiacos were like they played in their home court. I think that Olympiacos supporters deserve to be celebrated. Larkin and Bryant helped Anadolu Efes stay in the game until the last quarter. Even though he played badly until then, Micic who was the MVP of last season managed to carry the team to the final by a buzzer-beater.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on May 19, 2022, 07:58:54 PM
In the first game of the Final Four, Anadolu Efes and Olympiacos played against each other. Even though the game was played in a neutral location in Belgrad, Olympiacos were like they played in their home court. I think that Olympiacos supporters deserve to be celebrated. Larkin and Bryant helped Anadolu Efes stay in the game until the last quarter. Even though he played badly until then, Micic who was the MVP of last season managed to carry the team to the final by a buzzer-beater.
Micic, what a clutch player. It wasn't easy game for him, but in decisive moment he took responsibility, after in 2nd half Larkin was completely stopped. Amazing semifinal, but honestly, I expected something similar. And that Ataman's smile after game, simply priceless :D.
In other semifinal Barca lead by 11 at halftime. Mirotic is pplaying like MVP is supposed to play, Lapravittola is solid too. But I don't think that it's over, Real missed some open 3-pointers, they can't to continue missing for whole game.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: Joca97 on May 19, 2022, 08:58:02 PM
In the first game of the Final Four, Anadolu Efes and Olympiacos played against each other. Even though the game was played in a neutral location in Belgrad, Olympiacos were like they played in their home court. I think that Olympiacos supporters deserve to be celebrated. Larkin and Bryant helped Anadolu Efes stay in the game until the last quarter. Even though he played badly until then, Micic who was the MVP of last season managed to carry the team to the final by a buzzer-beater.

Micic is a huge player and showed why he was the MVP of the euroleague last season. Efes was playing the entire season really bad and was able to somehow get to the top 8 that takes them to playoff and now they are the final and get back to back title


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: casperBGD on May 19, 2022, 09:07:21 PM
~snip
But I don't think that it's over, Real missed some open 3-pointers, they can't to continue missing for whole game.

good guess, it looked over at half-time, but Real won in the end, and will play Efes in the final
I do not watch Basketball that much lately, but since F4 is in my city, had to watch part of semi-final matches (although my attention was on Premier and saving Everton from relegation)

fights between Olympiakos and Efes fans all over the city today, did not saw Barca and Real fans dough


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: Boristhecat on May 21, 2022, 08:16:28 AM
~snip
But I don't think that it's over, Real missed some open 3-pointers, they can't to continue missing for whole game.

good guess, it looked over at half-time, but Real won in the end, and will play Efes in the final
I do not watch Basketball that much lately, but since F4 is in my city, had to watch part of semi-final matches (although my attention was on Premier and saving Everton from relegation)

fights between Olympiakos and Efes fans all over the city today, did not saw Barca and Real fans dough

An unexpected result, given that Barcelona were judged as clear favorites against Real Madrid. Now bookmakers give more moderate predictions for the final and the quotes of the teams are almost equal:

Real Madrid 1,82

Anadolu Efes SK 1,96

In the third place game, Barcelona are clear favorites, but will they be motivated to fight just for bronze?

Barcelona 1.52

Olympiacos Piraeus 2.48


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on May 21, 2022, 10:42:53 AM
Final looks very difficult to predict. IMO, Efes have slightly better chances, but that's one game and everything can happen. As fan of Barca, I don't really want to see Real winning title :D.
About 3rd place game, I don't really get why it's needed. It's usually waste of time because both times don't really want to play it. But I expect that Barca today will find motivation to play.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: ZekiBeyy on May 21, 2022, 07:02:03 PM
Stark Arena'da oynanan müsabaka, Anadolu Efes Real Madrid’i 58-57 yenerek şampiyon oldu. Anadolu Efes üst üste 2. Şampiyonluğunu ilan etmiş oldu. Tebrikler Anadolu Efes.

Karşılaşmanın son dakikaları inanılmaz güzeldi çok güzel bir taktikle süreyi erittiler resmen.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on May 21, 2022, 07:23:03 PM
Anadolou Efes is back-to-back Euroleague Champions! Ataman is definitely man of his word. It was extremely low scoring game, but it doesn't makes it worse, we had drama until final second. Vasilije Micic is back-to-back Final 4 MVP, but I would like to mention Tibor Pleiss, he was one of keys to win, especialyy in 4th quarter. Usually you don't expect such performance from him
I just don't understand what Real were doingon last minute. There was 45 seconds remaining, Real made 2 fouls before bonus then. But why they didn't fouled then to let Efes to shoot free-throws? With defence without fould Real didn't left any time for themselves for last attack.

Stark Arena'da oynanan müsabaka, Anadolu Efes Real Madrid’i 58-57 yenerek şampiyon oldu. Anadolu Efes üst üste 2. Şampiyonluğunu ilan etmiş oldu. Tebrikler Anadolu Efes.

Karşılaşmanın son dakikaları inanılmaz güzeldi çok güzel bir taktikle süreyi erittiler resmen.
Congratulations with a win, but it's not a reason to post in Turkish in English board :D.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: Joca97 on May 21, 2022, 07:26:54 PM
Anadolou Efes is back-to-back Euroleague Champions! Ataman is definitely man of his word. It was extremely low scoring game, but it doesn't makes it worse, we had drama until final second. Vasilije Micic is back-to-back Final 4 MVP, but I would like to mention Tibor Pleiss, he was one of keys to win, especialyy in 4th quarter. Usually you don't expect such performance from him
I just don't understand what Real were doingon last minute. There was 45 seconds remaining, Real made 2 fouls before bonus then. But why they didn't fouled then to let Efes to shoot free-throws? With defence without fould Real didn't left any time for themselves for last attack.

Stark Arena'da oynanan müsabaka, Anadolu Efes Real Madrid’i 58-57 yenerek şampiyon oldu. Anadolu Efes üst üste 2. Şampiyonluğunu ilan etmiş oldu. Tebrikler Anadolu Efes.

Karşılaşmanın son dakikaları inanılmaz güzeldi çok güzel bir taktikle süreyi erittiler resmen.
Congratulations with a win, but it's not a reason to post in Turkish in English board :D.

Congrats to Anadolu Efes they played an amazing game with nice tactics and strategy. Micic was amazing in this final four and gaved them the wins in semi and final. Real Madrids bad last minute and i agree with you no body knows what they were doing


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: CLS63 on May 21, 2022, 10:43:40 PM
Today in the Euroleague, the third position and final games were played. In the game for the third position, Barcelona managed to beat Olympiacos despite having a difficulty. Despite normal games for the third position, we watched a game that had a high level of competition. Greek supporters had a really big role about this. In the final game, Anadolu Efes that were the last champions managed to beat Real Madrid by 58-57. At Anadolu Efes, the German center Pleiss was chosen as the player of the game after his performance. And he was one of the most important players who brought the title to Efes.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: Velvet78 on May 21, 2022, 11:39:07 PM
It was such an incredible finale between Anadolu Efes and Real Madrid. Actually it would have been better if we didn't see a low-scoring game but it was still very competitive here. It was like a defense game and Anadolu Efes became victorious by only one point at the end. Anadolu Efes have become the champions two times in a row by this one. Honestly I wasn't very hopeful about Anadolu Efes in the regular season but they improved their performance too much after that. I believe they definitely deserved the title.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: LGD2Business on May 23, 2022, 05:07:17 PM
Efes Pilsen, who played a perfect match, became the champion again and became the first Turkish team to be the Euroleague champion two times in a row. Ergin Ataman gave a very good performance. He did great things in every team he went to and won great trophies. He won European cups even with much more limited budgets. Efes is very lucky to have him. I'm very curious to see what he will do next season. They will want to do the final four again and will strive for more if possible.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: Boristhecat on May 23, 2022, 05:28:41 PM
Efes Pilsen, who played a perfect match, became the champion again and became the first Turkish team to be the Euroleague champion two times in a row. Ergin Ataman gave a very good performance. He did great things in every team he went to and won great trophies. He won European cups even with much more limited budgets. Efes is very lucky to have him. I'm very curious to see what he will do next season. They will want to do the final four again and will strive for more if possible.

A historic achievement, I join the congratulations to Efes! They were not favorites but were able to defend their title. As for the next season, it looks like they want (and most likely will be favorites) to win the Euroleague for the third time in a row - judging by the news, they have launched a lot of activity in the transfer market and are seriously strengthening their squad.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: el kaka22 on May 24, 2022, 01:30:14 AM
I am shocked about the game score though. 58-57 right? That is one of the lowest scoring finals I have ever seen in a while. Even though I do not watch too many euroleague finals, I can say that scores are usually not that this low. Both teams tried their best to slow the game down as much as possible, like use the whole 24 seconds, and if you score then you score.

Compared to amazingly fast pace used both in NBA and also in most situations for euroleague, this game has been a big shock. Kudos to both managers for being ready for such a slow pace, it is not easy to keep giving half court sets at all times to get scores out of it. Specially the last 30 seconds or so was a big shock, without proper timing for fouls decided the game.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: püsür on June 20, 2022, 10:15:40 AM
The Euroleague season ended with a bang and after the local leagues also finished, now it is time for teams to prepare for the next season. Efes Pilsen made two important signings. Firstly, they extended Shane Larkin's contract for two years. And then they signed 2019 Final Four MVP Will Clyburn coming from CSKA Moscow. Two important moves for the next two seasons. But after winning the Euroleague, Efes lost the Turkish League title to Fenerbahce Beko. Fenerbahce had important coaching changes. They parted ways with Sasha Djordjevic and signed Dimitris Itoudis from also CSKA Moscow. A very big move.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: Prosperiousproduct on June 20, 2022, 11:44:02 AM
Actually, Including the competition's previous incarnation as the FIBA Europe Champions Cup, this is the 65th season of the premier basketball competition for European men's clubs. The season started on 30 September 2021. The three Russian teams were suspended because of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. As the Russian invasion of Ukraine did not cease, the records of all regular season matches against Russian teams were annulled.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: Velvet78 on June 20, 2022, 12:18:10 PM
It is really delightful to me that Turkish teams have been quite dominant in the Euroleague in the recent years. In the past five seasons, Turkish teams became the champions three times. Anadolu Efes won two times and Fenerbahce won once. Maybe the Turkish domestic basketball league isn't the best league in Europe now but the big teams there have really big potentials in themselves. Turkish teams aren't this much successful in football for many years for example.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: casperBGD on June 20, 2022, 12:35:00 PM
It is really delightful to me that Turkish teams have been quite dominant in the Euroleague in the recent years.

-snip

Serbia will have two teams in Euroleague, it is first time, since large 16 team group is introduced, so we will have domestic derby in Euroleague for the first time

nevertheless, it will be hard to expect from both, Crvena Zvezda and Partizan, to proceed into knock-out stage, just hoping to be competitive and finish will 10+ wins in 30 matches


Title: Re: Euroleague 2021/22 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on June 20, 2022, 09:44:26 PM
Fenerbahce had important coaching changes. They parted ways with Sasha Djordjevic and signed Dimitris Itoudis from also CSKA Moscow. A very big move.
Indeed, it's big move, but it should be so pity for Djordjevic to get sacked after winning Turkish league. Now there is one big name remaining in coach market - Xavi Pascual. It's difficult to expect that he will stay in Zenit, which is removed from Euroleague.

Actually, Including the competition's previous incarnation as the FIBA Europe Champions Cup, this is the 65th season of the premier basketball competition for European men's clubs.
I know that you're just spamming copy paste stuff, but Euroleague history counts from 2000.

nevertheless, it will be hard to expect from both, Crvena Zvezda and Partizan, to proceed into knock-out stage, just hoping to be competitive and finish will 10+ wins in 30 matches
I expect both them to finisj in 10-14 places. Partizan have Obradovic, but they have failed this season without even reaching Eurocup final and now they withdraw from Serbian league playoffs, what was really strange decision.


Title: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: ingiltere on December 16, 2022, 09:34:56 PM
We should have a Euroleague thread but I couldn't find for new season. Maybe we can go on with this one, OP can update thread name.

I watched last minutes of Partizan - Anadolu Efes game, it was intense game and had close ending. Efes made it down to one in last minute but Nunnally made a 3-pointer. After that Efes found an easy score but Nunnally didn't miss both free throws. Efes found one more chance after a successful 3-pointer but when the difference was 3 points they couldn't get the ball into play and blew that last chance.

Anadolu Efes looked pretty far away from their last season's performance. Partizan is giving good signals but their squad is limited. You can see Obradović's touch though. Nunnally and Exum are scorers, there's also Punter from bench but they need better Center and Power Forward. With this squad they will finish in middle places.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on December 16, 2022, 11:56:55 PM
We should have a Euroleague thread but I couldn't find for new season. Maybe we can go on with this one, OP can update thread name.

I watched last minutes of Partizan - Anadolu Efes game, it was intense game and had close ending. Efes made it down to one in last minute but Nunnally made a 3-pointer. After that Efes found an easy score but Nunnally didn't miss both free throws. Efes found one more chance after a successful 3-pointer but when the difference was 3 points they couldn't get the ball into play and blew that last chance.

Anadolu Efes looked pretty far away from their last season's performance. Partizan is giving good signals but their squad is limited. You can see Obradović's touch though. Nunnally and Exum are scorers, there's also Punter from bench but they need better Center and Power Forward. With this squad they will finish in middle places.
Thanks for bumping this topic. It's sad that Euroleague isn't getting much attention here. I think that this Euroleague season is most competetive ever.
I watched Partizan - Efes game and I like to watch Partizan playing. They have potential to fight for playoffs, but as you said, short bench can be big problem for them. I think that Lessort is perfect center for them, but they need backup for him. While Efes, they never show their best basketball in first part of season.
Later turned to Monaco - Alba game and with ended buzzer beater of Okobo and Monaco win:
https://twitter.com/EuroLeague/status/1603871239000449025 It's a bit strange that on last posession ball weren't in Mike James hands :D. Meanwhile it was already 11th lossfor Alba in a row  :o. But for me Olimpia Milan is biggest disappointment. With such squad and professor Messina they can't be in the bottom of table.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: püsür on December 17, 2022, 07:53:54 AM
We should have a Euroleague thread but I couldn't find for new season. Maybe we can go on with this one, OP can update thread name.

I watched last minutes of Partizan - Anadolu Efes game, it was intense game and had close ending. Efes made it down to one in last minute but Nunnally made a 3-pointer. After that Efes found an easy score but Nunnally didn't miss both free throws. Efes found one more chance after a successful 3-pointer but when the difference was 3 points they couldn't get the ball into play and blew that last chance.

Anadolu Efes looked pretty far away from their last season's performance. Partizan is giving good signals but their squad is limited. You can see Obradović's touch though. Nunnally and Exum are scorers, there's also Punter from bench but they need better Center and Power Forward. With this squad they will finish in middle places.
There is really something weird going on with Anadolu Efes this season. It can't be explained only with Shane Larkin situation. They started last season badly also and got the title at the end but it is even much worse this season. They started to get better recently but still, there seems to be something fundamentally wrong. Even though they are 7-7 with 50% win percentage, I don't think they play good and promising.

I also enjoy this season even more than ever. Fenerbahce with Dimitris Itoudis is my title favorite, they started great and looking strong. Even though personally I don't like them. After them Barça is my second contender. 


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on December 17, 2022, 01:49:53 PM
-snip
Partizan is giving good signals but their squad is limited. You can see Obradović's touch though. Nunnally and Exum are scorers, there's also Punter from bench but they need better Center and Power Forward. With this squad they will finish in middle places.

Partizan had good start this season, but lost most matches in last month, including both matches with Crvena Zvezda, which are pretty important ones for fans

Win over Efes ended losing strike, and hopefully will get us into better shape, it is a long season, and there are still chances to enter top8, although those are small


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: püsür on December 22, 2022, 08:40:09 PM
-snip
Partizan is giving good signals but their squad is limited. You can see Obradović's touch though. Nunnally and Exum are scorers, there's also Punter from bench but they need better Center and Power Forward. With this squad they will finish in middle places.

Partizan had good start this season, but lost most matches in last month, including both matches with Crvena Zvezda, which are pretty important ones for fans

Win over Efes ended losing strike, and hopefully will get us into better shape, it is a long season, and there are still chances to enter top8, although those are small

Partizan had another big win tonight. Obradovic showed his greatness yet again. As he pointed out after the game, Partizan beat the leader of the Euroleague at the moment. Really great job from Partizan.

Fenerbahce team is in incredible decline. Okay, there are injuries, but injuries are part of this game. Every team has injured players. They lost 4 of the last 5 matches including local league. If it continues like this, they might find themselves outside the playoff hoop in 3-4 weeks. Fenerbahce is already a fragile team. Things are going bad for them and their coach Dimitris Itoudis. It was a good game for beginning the week. Always fun to watch Serbian teams.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: Joca97 on December 22, 2022, 08:55:45 PM
-snip
Partizan is giving good signals but their squad is limited. You can see Obradović's touch though. Nunnally and Exum are scorers, there's also Punter from bench but they need better Center and Power Forward. With this squad they will finish in middle places.

Partizan had good start this season, but lost most matches in last month, including both matches with Crvena Zvezda, which are pretty important ones for fans

Win over Efes ended losing strike, and hopefully will get us into better shape, it is a long season, and there are still chances to enter top8, although those are small

Partizan had another big win tonight. Obradovic showed his greatness yet again. As he pointed out after the game, Partizan beat the leader of the Euroleague at the moment. Really great job from Partizan.

Fenerbahce team is in incredible decline. Okay, there are injuries, but injuries are part of this game. Every team has injured players. They lost 4 of the last 5 matches including local league. If it continues like this, they might find themselves outside the playoff hoop in 3-4 weeks. Fenerbahce is already a fragile team. Things are going bad for them and their coach Dimitris Itoudis. It was a good game for beginning the week. Always fun to watch Serbian teams.

Partizan with an amazing win tonight i didnt expect it but my team pulled through on a really hard away match. Fenerbahce just cannot win lately and from such a huge team i didnt expect so many losses in a row. I cannot remember when this happened last time that Fenerbahce had such a bad streak.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: ajanwalker on December 23, 2022, 09:55:42 PM
https://i.hizliresim.com/27znf08.jpg (https://www.hizliresim.com/27znf08)

In the most important match of the night, Monaco was defeated 79-71 against Milan despite closing the first half of the match 47-34 and lost its chance to lead. In another match of the night, Barcelona, ​​who was defeated 84-83 away from Valencia, could not complete the week as the leader. I was surprised that both teams lost in the week Fenerbahce Beko lost. The most profitable team of this week was Cazoo Baskonia and finished the week in 3rd place. The defending champion Anadolu Efes continued its rise by beating Panathinaikos 88-69 at home.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on December 25, 2022, 06:36:08 PM
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Partizan with an amazing win tonight i didnt expect it but my team pulled through on a really hard away match. Fenerbahce just cannot win lately and from such a huge team i didnt expect so many losses in a row. I cannot remember when this happened last time that Fenerbahce had such a bad streak.

yeah, we finally won some matches, after several loses in a row
and most matches, we are within 5 points distance from opponent, all nervous finishes, hopefully it will bring us experience in these, if we somehow get to next round in EL, and in ABA league play-off

even when on +20 during the match, we end-up on penalty shootout in last minute


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on December 30, 2022, 08:55:12 PM
Final round of 2022 didn't disappointed. Crvena Zvezda were leading big part of game against Barcelona. They had one job - foul against Barcelona and don't let them to make 3 point attempt. I can't understand how they failed to do that and let Mirotic to shot. In overtime Barca won, despite that coach Jasikevicius got ejected.
Yesterday Efes completely stopped playing in 4th quarrter against Maccabi, lost it 23:7, letting Maccabi to score almost 20 points without response. Maccabi won the game.
Seems that Olimpia finally got their game. They beat Valencia and it's their 3rd win in a row.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LGD2Business on December 30, 2022, 09:57:23 PM
Final round of 2022 didn't disappointed. Crvena Zvezda were leading big part of game against Barcelona. They had one job - foul against Barcelona and don't let them to make 3 point attempt. I can't understand how they failed to do that and let Mirotic to shot. In overtime Barca won, despite that coach Jasikevicius got ejected.

While I was waiting for the Real Madrid game to start, I saw the end of this match on TV. The match went into overtime and Barcelona won by playing better in overtime. Crvena Zvezda played well, but it wasn't enough to win.
Crvena Zvezda would have won had Mirotic not extended the game with that incredible three-pointer. But when the match went to overtime by conceding such a buzzer beater, the morale of the players of Crvena Zvezda fell. We watched a really good final moments.

That magic moment: https://twitter.com/EuroLeague/status/1608918720545722370


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on December 30, 2022, 11:14:46 PM
While I was waiting for the Real Madrid game to start, I saw the end of this match on TV. The match went into overtime and Barcelona won by playing better in overtime. Crvena Zvezda played well, but it wasn't enough to win.
Crvena Zvezda would have won had Mirotic not extended the game with that incredible three-pointer. But when the match went to overtime by conceding such a buzzer beater, the morale of the players of Crvena Zvezda fell. We watched a really good final moments.

That magic moment: https://twitter.com/EuroLeague/status/1608918720545722370

Well, it seems that Mirotic stepped on the line before buzzer-beater and the shot shouldn't have counted:
https://basketnews.com/news-183109-nikola-mirotic-stepped-on-the-line-before-the-buzzer-beater-vs-zvezda.html
It's pity that such great moment was result of referees mistake. What is ridiculuous that referees didn't went to watch replay of it. Sometimes they watch replays of meaningles moments for 5 minutes and now they didn't went to watch moment where game outcome is decided.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on January 05, 2023, 09:48:13 PM
Partizan closing nice win over Monaco, fourth in a row in Euroleague, and it seems that we are getting the form up, slowly but steady
it was all done in fourth quarter, nice start, miserable second quarter, a lot of fight in third and great start in fourth that lead to +14 at the moment, should not be missed

with this win, top8 seems closer, although not realistic, but possible


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on January 06, 2023, 12:02:15 AM
Partizan closing nice win over Monaco, fourth in a row in Euroleague, and it seems that we are getting the form up, slowly but steady
it was all done in fourth quarter, nice start, miserable second quarter, a lot of fight in third and great start in fourth that lead to +14 at the moment, should not be missed

with this win, top8 seems closer, although not realistic, but possible
Very solid win, after all, Monaco is one of the best teams this season so far. For Partizan everything is possible, when there is so many teams very close to each other. I wouldn't even write-off Olimpia Milan for potential Top 8.
I'm wondering what's going on with Fenerbahche recently. It's their 5th loss in a row and they were awful today, Zalgiris were leading almost by 30 points big part of game. Though, terrible news for Zalgiris, their leader Evans is out for rest of season after Achilles injury today.
Barca is underperforming this season, now they lost against Virtus. They're still 2nd, but they have way more losses than they should. And who could have thought that Baskonia will be at the top after 17 rounds.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: Joca97 on January 06, 2023, 01:10:40 AM
Partizan closing nice win over Monaco, fourth in a row in Euroleague, and it seems that we are getting the form up, slowly but steady
it was all done in fourth quarter, nice start, miserable second quarter, a lot of fight in third and great start in fourth that lead to +14 at the moment, should not be missed

with this win, top8 seems closer, although not realistic, but possible

Partizan won 100-80 against Monaco and this is another win from the top teams in the league. They are picking up form really well but still out of top 8. But if they continue like this we can see them easily in the top 8. This is i think their 4th euroleague win in a row and they are looks really really good.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: ajanwalker on January 06, 2023, 06:18:37 AM
Zeljko Obradovic is much more than a coach. The Partizan team does not consist of top level basketball players, but the team game they play is great. 5 wins in the last 5 matches. They overthrew Anadolu Efes, Fenerbahçe and finally Monaco yesterday and their rise continues. They'll see the final four, but I don't know if they can be champions. Fenerbahce, on the other hand, continues to decline. They lost to Zalgiris yesterday. The team is struggling to win matches. The team has self-confidence issues. Players have a hard time shooting. Kaunas scored 20 points yesterday.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on January 06, 2023, 07:48:00 PM
~snip
I'm wondering what's going on with Fenerbahche recently. It's their 5th loss in a row and they were awful today, Zalgiris were leading almost by 30 points big part of game. Though, terrible news for Zalgiris, their leader Evans is out for rest of season after Achilles injury today.


both, Partizan and Zalgiris are within reach for top8, and hopefully we can both enter next phase
big win over Fenerbahce for Zalgiris, they are sliding down with 5 loses, but it is a long season, and everything can happen, this is middle

Zvezda plays against Valencia tonight, and they started well, it is first quarter, and anything can happen


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on January 15, 2023, 12:13:41 AM
Anadolou Efes managed to beat Barcelona again, this time at Palau Blaugrana. And maybe final score shows that it was close game, it actually wasn't. Efes dominated game, big part of it having solid lead and Barca got closer only in 4th quarter. Something is just going wrong for Barca this season.
Partizan got very solid win against Baskonia. Just few weeks ago Baskonia were leading table and now they are just 6th after few loses. It's incredible how everything is close this season. There is 3 wins between 1st and 10th place and 3 wins between 8th and 15th. Few wins or losess in a row can change your situation fundamentally.
BTW, there was news that Kemba Walker is going to join Olimpia Milan, but seems it's not true at all:
https://basketnews.com/news-183792-kemba-walkers-reported-deal-with-milan-completely-untrue.html
Anyway, I doubt that signing him would help Milan to reach playoffs.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on January 26, 2023, 03:44:40 PM
Belgrade derby in Euroleague tomorrow, Crvena Zvezda is facing Partizan, in a tension filled match, that could equalize clubs on ten wins, or send Zvezda two wins ahead with 11 wins, and increase their chances for next round

Zvezda already won two matches against Partizan this season (Euroleague and regional competition) and this one will be interesting as well, home win @1.5 has some value, although I hope that Partizan is going to win


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: Joca97 on January 26, 2023, 06:09:50 PM
Belgrade derby in Euroleague tomorrow, Crvena Zvezda is facing Partizan, in a tension filled match, that could equalize clubs on ten wins, or send Zvezda two wins ahead with 11 wins, and increase their chances for next round

Zvezda already won two matches against Partizan this season (Euroleague and regional competition) and this one will be interesting as well, home win @1.5 has some value, although I hope that Partizan is going to win

Zvezda is the favorite in this match because of the home ground but this derbies know to go either way we seen it last time. Partizan leaded the entire match and lost in last basket so for partizan this is now or never to try and catch up for the playoffs


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on January 26, 2023, 08:41:20 PM
Zvezda is the favorite in this match because of the home ground but this derbies know to go either way we seen it last time. Partizan leaded the entire match and lost in last basket so for partizan this is now or never to try and catch up for the playoffs
Home factor is important thing, but not decisive, as we saw in previous derby where Zvezda won in front of 20k Partizan fans. Zvezda have advantage tomorrow, but in general, I think it's very similar level teams.
Today's El Clasico was amazing and nothing surprising that we had overtime there. Barca dominated most part of game, but in 4th quarter Real made comeback. In overtime Real dominated already and 3-pointers of Hezonja and Musa killed Barca.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on January 28, 2023, 11:32:48 AM
~snip
as we saw in previous derby where Zvezda won in front of 20k Partizan fans. Zvezda have advantage tomorrow, but in general, I think it's very similar level teams.

and same happened last night, when Partizan won over Zvezda, important (would say huge) win for a second phase battle in Euroleague, lose in this one would distance Partizan from chance to reach top8
it was tense, final score is 1 point, but Zvezda scored three pointer when it does not mattered any more, so there was no last second shock, but as I can remember, we had lead whole last quarter

five teams within one win distance for spot eight


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: karabiber on February 02, 2023, 09:39:01 PM
Despite playing without Sloukas against Fenerbahce Beko in the first match of the week Olimpiakos won the match easily. Their next match is against Anadolu Efes and at home. Anadolu Efes won the match against Zalgiris despite having difficulties in the last quarter. Anadolu Efes downshifted in the matches but they were good in defense in the match against Zalgiris.

Defending Olimpiakos a fast team will not be easy. Sloukas will not play in the Anadolu Efes game but his absence is fine for Olimpiakos. Anadolu Efes need to attack very well in order to survive in this match. Big job will fall on short players for this. I think it will be a high score game.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on February 03, 2023, 08:07:45 AM
Partizan is playing Zalgiris in Lithuania tonight, should be a good match
looking at past results between the two, home team usually wins these, and odds are pretty on value @1.71 on Zalgiris to win

@LTU_btc, what do you think will happen tonight?


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: swogerino on February 03, 2023, 08:29:14 AM
Partizan is playing Zalgiris in Lithuania tonight, should be a good match
looking at past results between the two, home team usually wins these, and odds are pretty on value @1.71 on Zalgiris to win


I don't know but I am not that confident that Zalgiris will win tonight.The odd of 1.71 and this range of odds from 1.65-1.85 are some of the most dangerous in soccer but I think to be the same here in the basketball Euroleague.

Partizan is one from the good names in European basketball despite not being at the top of the top this time around so most likely is better to bet on over or under as to go with money line bets in basketball as history has shown most of the time these kind of bets are better.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on February 03, 2023, 10:28:39 AM
Main game today probably is Olympiacos - Efes. Currently Oly is leading Euroleague and they are undefeated for long time. Efes is still fighting for Top8 and still aren't playing stable. Bookmakers are favouring Olympiacos clearly - 1.65 for their even, despite that they will play without Sloukas again.

Partizan is playing Zalgiris in Lithuania tonight, should be a good match
looking at past results between the two, home team usually wins these, and odds are pretty on value @1.71 on Zalgiris to win

@LTU_btc, what do you think will happen tonight?
Zalgiris looks very vulnerable now without their main guard. They were destroyed by weak PAO last week, also lost Lithuanian league game, what happens rarely. So, 1.71 odds looks q bit strange, I would avoid it. It can be one of key games for both teams in fight for Top 8


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on February 03, 2023, 07:14:44 PM
~snip
Zalgiris looks very vulnerable now without their main guard.

Partizan was up 17 points at halftime, but Zalgiris is playing better in third quarter
nevertheless, still 11 points advantage for Partizan at the moment, very important match for next round fight, since 12 wins is securing 8th place at the moment

Partizan is on 60% 3 points attempts scored, and that is making difference at the moment


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: Joca97 on February 03, 2023, 08:12:20 PM
~snip
Zalgiris looks very vulnerable now without their main guard.

Partizan was up 17 points at halftime, but Zalgiris is playing better in third quarter
nevertheless, still 11 points advantage for Partizan at the moment, very important match for next round fight, since 12 wins is securing 8th place at the moment

Partizan is on 60% 3 points attempts scored, and that is making difference at the moment

Partizan destroyed Zalgiris and now is 7th on the table what an achivement by my team. Won a 4.00 odd on partizan to win and over in points. Easy money today and i think this is just a start from our team. What a streak by Partizan.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on February 03, 2023, 09:07:37 PM
Partizan destroyed Zalgiris and now is 7th on the table what an achivement by my team. Won a 4.00 odd on partizan to win and over in points. Easy money today and i think this is just a start from our team. What a streak by Partizan.
Solid game of Partizan in front of 15k Zalgiris fans. When make 60% successful 3-pt attempts, you simply can't lose. As I said earlier, it may be one of key games in fight for Top 8. But everything is so close that few wins or losses can change situation dramatically. I hope that Euroleagye is considering to introduce play-in like in NBA because now tournament is so competetive that 8 places isn't enough.
In other game Olympiacos achieved important win against Efes and now leading together with Real. While current champions Efes now is just 11th.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on February 09, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
Good round for Serbian teams. Crvena Zvezda won against Maccabi, though, they almost choked in the end, after wasting solid lead. Wade Baldwin, who had career night with 38 points almost made buzzer beater from the middle of court which would lead to overtime that was close.
Partizan won against Bayern confident, Virtus had no chance against Barcelona.
Interesting game between Zalgiris and Baskonia. Bookies have no favorite there, giving 1.90 for both team wins.
Efes - Real and Fenerbahche - Olimpia games postponed after terrible disaster in Turkey.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: dezoel on February 09, 2023, 09:53:30 PM
Today we have three matches with fourth was postponed due to tragic earthquake in Turkey but still a good entertaining day for the Euro league fans as Croatian teams were dominating and having good wins in first match Crvena zvezda beats Maccabi Tel Aviv by score of 89-86 with this win Crvena Zvezda ends their four matches losing streak against in this league and now having 13th place.

In second match Partizan having extended their winning streak and beats Bayern which is now on their 3 matches losing streak with this win now Partizan is at seventh spot after this one we have last game of the day which was play between Barcelona vs Monaco this was interesting game as having very close fight for the result and Barcelona able to win by 91 - 95.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on February 10, 2023, 07:29:19 AM
Good round for Serbian teams. Crvena Zvezda won against Maccabi, though, they almost choked in the end, after wasting solid lead. Wade Baldwin, who had career night with 38 points almost made buzzer beater from the middle of court which would lead to overtime that was close.
Partizan won against Bayern confident, Virtus had no chance against Barcelona.
Interesting game between Zalgiris and Baskonia. Bookies have no favorite there, giving 1.90 for both team wins.
Efes - Real and Fenerbahche - Olimpia games postponed after terrible disaster in Turkey.

for Partizan, this is fourth win in a row, and ninth in last eleven rounds - from 4/9 to 13/11 and position 6 at the moment
from impossible through possible to realistic fight for Top8 place, in last ten rounds Partizan and Olympiacos are only teams with 8 wins

watching Zalgiris and Baskonia tonight, Valencia is facing Panatinaikos in a 6-8 place fight for Top8
Baskonia is in bad form and bad on away matches, Zalgiris is in bad strike, but @1.9 could be a good pick


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: xzone on February 10, 2023, 08:10:43 AM
For the rest of the season, the performance of Anadolu Efes and Fenerbahçe players will decrease a lot. Due to the terrible disaster in Turkey, everyone's psychological state is in a terrible. It takes months to heal. It is not clear when these basketball players can play again. Work is still going on in the country, cities have been destroyed.
I really wanted to see them do well in the Euroleague


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: püsür on February 13, 2023, 10:01:15 AM
For the rest of the season, the performance of Anadolu Efes and Fenerbahçe players will decrease a lot. Due to the terrible disaster in Turkey, everyone's psychological state is in a terrible. It takes months to heal. It is not clear when these basketball players can play again. Work is still going on in the country, cities have been destroyed.
I really wanted to see them do well in the Euroleague
Is there an official statement about the exact dates of Turkish teams and leagues to continue again? As far as I know there are not definite dates, and since the parts of the country near Istanbul is not affected. It is a terrible thing to happen for the whole country but at least the european games should continue after some appropriate time. There is no point of wasting the already invested money into these teams. Personally, I expect things to get normal as much as it's possible in couple of weeks. Especially Fenerbahce was getting a lot of attention after the coach and greek players came to Fenerbahce. Even Giannis recently talked about Fenerbahce and said he follows Fenerbahce after his brother transferred to the team. And Giannis's coach from the national team was already there. I wish things will be better for the whole country and turkish euroleague teams as soon as possible.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on March 02, 2023, 09:26:24 PM
after solid start, and bad finishing in second quarter, Partizan raised their game, and pushed Alba down in third quarter
it is now +13 in third quarter and this should be another win on our account, against bottom team, which held us in Top8 fight

Zvezda lost, Zalgiris as well, but Maccabi is holding good in Monaco, which is important match for Top8 placement


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: Joca97 on March 02, 2023, 09:34:10 PM
after solid start, and bad finishing in second quarter, Partizan raised their game, and pushed Alba down in third quarter
it is now +13 in third quarter and this should be another win on our account, against bottom team, which held us in Top8 fight

Zvezda lost, Zalgiris as well, but Maccabi is holding good in Monaco, which is important match for Top8 placement

Partizan destroyed Alba Berlin in third quarter and now its 22 points advantage and i think its impossible for Alba to make a comeback in the Belgrade Arena today. Crvena Zvezda also lost again in the very end and they had 9 point lead with five minutes until end and i think their hopes for top8 are over.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on March 02, 2023, 11:29:02 PM
Partizan destroyed Alba Berlin in third quarter and now its 22 points advantage and i think its impossible for Alba to make a comeback in the Belgrade Arena today. Crvena Zvezda also lost again in the very end and they had 9 point lead with five minutes until end and i think their hopes for top8 are over.
It was Euroleague game for Campazzo this season, he scored 16 points, but I wouldn't say that he had good game. I wouldn't say that Top 8 hopes is over for Zvezda, but now their chances is very complicated. Easy win for Partizan against Alba, but it's not competitor for Top 8, it's win that you just have to take and move. Next week they will have double round against both Italian teams away, it won't be easy.
Tomorrow there is two direct clashes for Top 8 spots - Fenerbahche - Virtus and Baskonia - Valencia.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on March 03, 2023, 10:47:30 AM
~snip
I wouldn't say that Top 8 hopes is over for Zvezda, but now their chances is very complicated. Easy win for Partizan against Alba, but it's not competitor for Top 8, it's win that you just have to take and move. Next week they will have double round against both Italian teams away, it won't be easy.
Tomorrow there is two direct clashes for Top 8 spots - Fenerbahche - Virtus and Baskonia - Valencia.

Zvezda is on 15 loses so far, I think that you need to have less than 16 to pass through, so they need 7-1 IMO for Top8, close to impossible
Partizan took important win that need to be won, and it is still on 12 loses, so 4-4 till the end could be enough to pass through

it is important that Maccabi lost last night in the end, so when Valencia and Baskonia finish, it will be first time that Partizan has one less loss from 9th placed team

overall Efes will probably qualify, so for two position there are six teams - Partizan, Baskonia, Valencia, Maccabi, Zalgiris and Bologna.
we basically need one win next week in Italy, either Bologna or Olimpia to stay in touch


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on March 08, 2023, 07:29:45 AM
bring this topic back on first page, after Partizan won last night in Bologna
we brought our best and won over direct competitor for Top8 placement

Zalgiris also won over Alba to stay in the loop, Baskonia took win over Real, so all teams are bringing their best moves to join next phase

Efes is playing tonight against Zvezda, interesting odds @1.8 on away win


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on March 10, 2023, 05:44:54 PM
Tonight we have very interesting game between Baskonia and Monaco in fight for Top 8. It's very important game for Baskonia, while Monaco situation on the table is a bit more comfortable. Monaco will play without Mike James, so, I think it's worth to put some money on Baskonia win.
Zalgiris won both their games this week, what keeps them in fight. Partizan won against Virtus, but lost against Milan, they're 6-8th now and things is very close there. Milan won 6th game in row already, but it's way too late for them to make comeback and jump into playoffs train.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on March 16, 2023, 09:33:09 PM
didn't saw it coming, but Partizan won over Efes, and it is now on 16-13, at position 6, one win over position 8 and 9, solid for top8
Efes is on 15 loses and pretty much have hard task to get back into top8 position

Olympiakos made us a favor winning over Zalgiris, while Maccabi won over Baskonia in a direct top8 position fight


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on March 16, 2023, 11:38:50 PM
didn't saw it coming, but Partizan won over Efes, and it is now on 16-13, at position 6, one win over position 8 and 9, solid for top8
Efes is on 15 loses and pretty much have hard task to get back into top8 position

Olympiakos made us a favor winning over Zalgiris, while Maccabi won over Baskonia in a direct top8 position fight
Efes improved their chances after win against Real, but now their situation is very complicated. What kind of level Euroleague we have if reigning back-to-back champions will not get into playoffs. While Olympiacos becomes firsty team which already have guaranted spot in playoffs. I looked at upcoming Zalgiris schedule, it's not easy, but when I looked at upcoming Partizan opponents - Oly, Barca, Real, Monaco and only PAO can be cosnidered as easy. Maccabi or Bakonia have mych better remaining schedule.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: Joca97 on March 17, 2023, 01:03:57 AM
didn't saw it coming, but Partizan won over Efes, and it is now on 16-13, at position 6, one win over position 8 and 9, solid for top8
Efes is on 15 loses and pretty much have hard task to get back into top8 position

Olympiakos made us a favor winning over Zalgiris, while Maccabi won over Baskonia in a direct top8 position fight

Huge win for us!! Partizan pulled through and turned the match around after a terrible first quarter. We beat the current champions both times and with this win we o most secured the top 8 now. Efes is in a really bad spot after this and i think they wont reach the final 8.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on March 23, 2023, 08:22:27 PM
~snip
I looked at upcoming Zalgiris schedule, it's not easy, but when I looked at upcoming Partizan opponents - Oly, Barca, Real, Monaco and only PAO can be cosnidered as easy. Maccabi or Bakonia have mych better remaining schedule.

Partizan has a really tough schedule in next four matches, and we need at least one win to keep us in the loop, for an last win over PAO to get us into top8
our biggest domestic rival, Zvezda did us a favor winning over Baskonia, and they are now on 15 loses, two more comparing to Partizan

tomorrow match against Olympiakos is a really important one, hopefully they will take it easy, since already qualified
Efes is playing with Alba tonight, and it is really intense atm


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on March 23, 2023, 08:52:46 PM
By beating Baskonia Crvena Zvezda really made big favour for main rival Partizan and other teams in fight for Top 8. Though, I would be a bit sad if Baskonia won't get into playoffs.
About Partizan - Oly, I think it's 50/50 game, but yeah, it's possible may be a bit relaxed with spot in playoffs
Tomorrow there is game between Fenerbahche and Zalgiris. It's must win game for Zalgiris, but bookmakers are sceptical about their chances
Alba - Efes is very close game. Sikma put back dunk eliminates back-to-back champions from playoff race. Really strange last Efes attack, with so little time remaining only option should be catch and shoot.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on March 25, 2023, 08:57:00 AM
-snip
About Partizan - Oly, I think it's 50/50 game, but yeah, it's possible may be a bit relaxed with spot in playoffs


not sure about Olympiakos, but Partizan was on top form in first half, and it was almost decided at half time, second half was close, but we finished it in proper manner
maybe theye were not pushing due to already qualifiying, but important win for us

now two wins above top8 border


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on March 26, 2023, 08:51:48 PM
not sure about Olympiakos, but Partizan was on top form in first half, and it was almost decided at half time, second half was close, but we finished it in proper manner
maybe theye were not pushing due to already qualifiying, but important win for us

now two wins above top8 border
After this win Partizan is in really comfortable situation. Now they have upcoming double round against Barca and Real, both at home. If they will win one of these games, it will be good result I think. For now it seems that last spot in Top 8 will be decided between Baskonia and Zalgiris. Interesting moment that both teams have 3 of 4 remaining games at home. For Efes there is still chances remaining, but it's complicated and I don't believe in them.
Milan is doing amazing things recently, they're just 1 win away from Top 8, it's incredible how arrival of Shabazz Napier changed team. But I think that they started too late.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on March 28, 2023, 08:13:00 AM
~snip
After this win Partizan is in really comfortable situation. Now they have upcoming double round against Barca and Real, both at home. If they will win one of these games, it will be good result I think.

agree, one win this week, and we are almost secured in top8
but, it is a spanish combo, Real and Barca, and it is hard as hell to win some, decision week at its best

~snip
For now it seems that last spot in Top 8 will be decided between Baskonia and Zalgiris. Interesting moment that both teams have 3 of 4 remaining games at home. For Efes there is still chances remaining, but it's complicated and I don't believe in them.
Milan is doing amazing things recently, they're just 1 win away from Top 8, it's incredible how arrival of Shabazz Napier changed team. But I think that they started too late.

Efes is playing Olimpia tonight, who loses can wave adio to top8, winner can fight till the end (especially if Olimpia win, which @2.35 is a value pick tonight, IMO)
Zalgiris is having a tough one this week against Monaco, Baskonia should win easily against Alba


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on March 28, 2023, 10:09:30 PM
Efes is playing Olimpia tonight, who loses can wave adio to top8, winner can fight till the end (especially if Olimpia win, which @2.35 is a value pick tonight, IMO)
Zalgiris is having a tough one this week against Monaco, Baskonia should win easily against Alba
Olimpia looked hot recently, it made sense to bet on them, but Efes won big. Few weeks ago I already said that Efes is eliminated, but they still have chances. While Baskonia win against Alba wasn't easy at all. Alba is on the bottom, they fight for nothing, so, it seems that now they decided to try to ruin season for teams that fight for Top 8 :D.
Barcelona won against Partizan at full Stark arena, maybe difference between teams isn't big, but basically Barca had game under control.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on March 29, 2023, 08:31:32 AM
~snip
Olimpia looked hot recently, it made sense to bet on them, but Efes won big.
~snip
Barcelona won against Partizan at full Stark arena, maybe difference between teams isn't big, but basically Barca had game under control.

yeah, didn't expected this easy to be for Efes, but they won it easily and with a big difference, still in the loop

we tried to fight Barca, good support at our arena, but Barca had it, and it looked from the beginning that they will win it in the end, key point was at beginning of second half, when they made it to +10, and after that Partizan didn't succeed to close the difference (there was a moment when it looked possible, but lasted too short to mention it)

onwards to Real, still think that one win from last three should be enough to qualify

good luck tonight against Monaco


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on March 31, 2023, 11:33:54 PM
@casperBGD, congrats with amazing win of Partizan against Real. Scoring 104 points against Real is serious statement. With 2 games remaining now you still can catch not just Fener, but Maccabi too.
Baskonia simply destroyed Fenerbahche in 4th quarter by winning it 32:11. It was difficult to see it coming, it looked that game will have close end.
Zalgiris ended with another win this week by beating Valencia. But they didn't received gifts from direct competitors and now they can stay without Top 8 even if they will win both remaining games.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on April 01, 2023, 07:48:49 AM
@casperBGD, congrats with amazing win of Partizan against Real. Scoring 104 points against Real is serious statement. With 2 games remaining now you still can catch not just Fener, but Maccabi too.
~snip

still not over, but this was a great win
expected that 18 wins will be enough to qualify, but it seems that 19 could also fail to secure top8

Zalgiris also end-up winning, Baskonia as well

next round is really important one, we are playing away against Monaco, Zalgiris have a match against Maccabi, and Baskonia has easiest schedule against Lyon
Efes is IMO already out, and playing Fenerbahce

last round, Baskonia is visiting Olympiakos, and that is our chance


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: ajanwalker on April 05, 2023, 08:48:51 PM
There is a Turkish derby in the Euro League on Thursday. Fenerbahce will host Anadolu Efes, the champion of the last 2 years, at home. Fenerbahçe is the favorite of the match, but it is still not clear. Ephesus has been out of shape lately. He also suffered interesting defeats in the Turkish League. If Efes loses the match, this year's Euroleague adventure will come to an end. Because the top 8 will have lost their chances.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on April 05, 2023, 10:25:30 PM
There is a Turkish derby in the Euro League on Thursday. Fenerbahce will host Anadolu Efes, the champion of the last 2 years, at home. Fenerbahçe is the favorite of the match, but it is still not clear. Ephesus has been out of shape lately. He also suffered interesting defeats in the Turkish League. If Efes loses the match, this year's Euroleague adventure will come to an end. Because the top 8 will have lost their chances.
And it's must win game for both teams. Fenerbahche still can't be confident about their place in Top 8. And seems that bookmakers aren't giving signficant advantage to any of teams. But if I would have to pick, I'd go with Fenerbahche win.
Also, another crucial game is Zalgiris - Maccabi, must win for Zalgiris. Big factor that Zalgiris play at home where they lost just 4 games out of 16.
Baskonia facing ASVEL at home, shouldn't be difficult.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on April 06, 2023, 07:02:15 AM
~snip
And it's must win game for both teams. Fenerbahche still can't be confident about their place in Top 8. And seems that bookmakers aren't giving signficant advantage to any of teams. But if I would have to pick, I'd go with Fenerbahche win.
Also, another crucial game is Zalgiris - Maccabi, must win for Zalgiris. Big factor that Zalgiris play at home where they lost just 4 games out of 16.
Baskonia facing ASVEL at home, shouldn't be difficult.

big matches tonight, Fenerbahce is in better position than Efes, but lose tonight could cost them top8 position in the end
Zalgiris will have tough job against Maccabi, although Maccabi already qualified for top8, and bookies are taking that into consideration, lowering odds on Zalgiris (Maccabi has six wins in a row in EL, and 11 wins in a row in all competitions, so I would be careful around this bet, and fifth position is getting you Monaco for F4 fight, probably easier than Barca, Real or Olympiakos), Baskonia should win easily

Partizan is waiting on sidelines to see what will happen tonight, playing tomorrow against Monaco


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on April 06, 2023, 08:04:23 PM
Zalgiris won drama aganst Maccabi 68-67. There was such huge tension in this game and low final result describes it. Maccabi had chance to win game in last attack, Baldwin made got shot, but missed it. But on attack before Maccabi failed to score with multiple attempts that they had.
Efes now offcially eliminated after loss to Fenerbahche. Efes season in a nutshell - they conceded over 100 points in crucial game. Ataman left game before it ended and no - he didn't got ejected https://twitter.com/BasketNews_com/status/1644062318676922392
Baskonia is leading against ASVEL at halftime, but it's close game.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: Joca97 on April 06, 2023, 08:57:36 PM
Zalgiris won drama aganst Maccabi 68-67. There was such huge tension in this game and low final result describes it. Maccabi had chance to win game in last attack, Baldwin made got shot, but missed it. But on attack before Maccabi failed to score with multiple attempts that they had.
Efes now offcially eliminated after loss to Fenerbahche. Efes season in a nutshell - they conceded over 100 points in crucial game. Ataman left game before it ended and no - he didn't got ejected https://twitter.com/BasketNews_com/status/1644062318676922392
Baskonia is leading against ASVEL at halftime, but it's close game.


Zalgiris with a big win that still gives them hope for top 8 also Baskonia destroyed Asvel in the second half and i never seen so many points in the euroleague game. Baskonia defeated 120-100 ,220 points in 40 minutes of play is insane for european basketball. Partizan now needs a win in next two matches to secure the top 8.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: CLS63 on April 07, 2023, 08:24:04 AM
Zalgiris won drama aganst Maccabi 68-67. There was such huge tension in this game and low final result describes it. Maccabi had chance to win game in last attack, Baldwin made got shot, but missed it. But on attack before Maccabi failed to score with multiple attempts that they had.
Efes now offcially eliminated after loss to Fenerbahche. Efes season in a nutshell - they conceded over 100 points in crucial game. Ataman left game before it ended and no - he didn't got ejected https://twitter.com/BasketNews_com/status/1644062318676922392
Baskonia is leading against ASVEL at halftime, but it's close game.


I can say comfortably that I'm very happy with this result as a Fenerbahçe fan. Anadolu Efes which are the champions of last 2 seasons are out of play-off now and this would be unforgettable for years. The incidents happened at the end of the match didn't surprise me at all as Ergin Ataman and Fenerbahçe fans hate each other. I don't assume Ataman will continue with Anadolu Efes next season. This win was very important for Fenerbahçe for the 5th position. I don't think Fenerbahçe have much chance against the other teams except Monaco.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on April 07, 2023, 09:34:43 AM
Zalgiris won drama aganst Maccabi 68-67. There was such huge tension in this game and low final result describes it. Maccabi had chance to win game in last attack, Baldwin made got shot, but missed it. But on attack before Maccabi failed to score with multiple attempts that they had.
~snip

congrats on a big win, as much as this is crossing our own ambitions for top8, I would like to see Zalgiris at F4, since it is in their arena
Monaco is probably only way to end up on F4, and Maccabi loss opened that opponent for all (5-8) top8 contenders, depend on last round results, and tonight match between Partizan and Monaco

~snip
Partizan now needs a win in next two matches to secure the top 8.

will one win be enough, in case all other teams win all their matches? didn't look at direct scores, and what is decision factor in case of several teams with same numbers (wins/loses)


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: püsür on April 07, 2023, 07:03:26 PM
Zalgiris won drama aganst Maccabi 68-67. There was such huge tension in this game and low final result describes it. Maccabi had chance to win game in last attack, Baldwin made got shot, but missed it. But on attack before Maccabi failed to score with multiple attempts that they had.
Efes now offcially eliminated after loss to Fenerbahche. Efes season in a nutshell - they conceded over 100 points in crucial game. Ataman left game before it ended and no - he didn't got ejected https://twitter.com/BasketNews_com/status/1644062318676922392
Baskonia is leading against ASVEL at halftime, but it's close game.


I can say comfortably that I'm very happy with this result as a Fenerbahçe fan. Anadolu Efes which are the champions of last 2 seasons are out of play-off now and this would be unforgettable for years. The incidents happened at the end of the match didn't surprise me at all as Ergin Ataman and Fenerbahçe fans hate each other. I don't assume Ataman will continue with Anadolu Efes next season. This win was very important for Fenerbahçe for the 5th position. I don't think Fenerbahçe have much chance against the other teams except Monaco.
Ergin Ataman is one of the most interesting characters of Euroleague. The things he did against Barcelona in the last years also were bizarre. Now, they couldn't qualify for the play offs and he manages to pull something like this from his pockets. Just unnecessary stuff. I like his coaching generally and I'm an Efes fan but he should just shut up and only focus on basketball. At least he took the whole blame for this year's terrible result.

The most fun to watch team this year is Partizan IMO. Obradović, fans and connection between players and the fans are great. Players like Mathias Lessort and his interactions with the fans are just making this league better.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on April 07, 2023, 07:30:29 PM
congrats on a big win, as much as this is crossing our own ambitions for top8, I would like to see Zalgiris at F4, since it is in their arena
Monaco is probably only way to end up on F4, and Maccabi loss opened that opponent for all (5-8) top8 contenders, depend on last round results, and tonight match between Partizan and Monaco
Thanks for greetings, but Zalgiris really isn't my team, I follow Euroleague more like neutral spectator. I support their main rivals in domestic league, but despite that I don't like Zalgiris at all, I would like to see them in F4 at home - there is maybe only chance in 20 years to have such event.

Ergin Ataman is one of the most interesting characters of Euroleague. The things he did against Barcelona in the last years also were bizarre. Now, they couldn't qualify for the play offs and he manages to pull something like this from his pockets. Just unnecessary stuff. I like his coaching generally and I'm an Efes fan but he should just shut up and only focus on basketball. At least he took the whole blame for this year's terrible result.

The most fun to watch team this year is Partizan IMO. Obradović, fans and connection between players and the fans are great. Players like Mathias Lessort and his interactions with the fans are just making this league better.
Couldn't agree more about Ataman. You can love him or hate, but Euroleague wouldn't be that entertaining without him. But yeah, terrible Efes result is his responsibility and it's interesting what will be his future.
Yeah, Partizan games is always interesting to watch, especially when they play at home. And Lessort already become most beloved player of Partizan fans. Baskonia is fun to watch too, yesterday's result is best example of it. They're playing fast, a bit wild basketball and nothing surprising that they're highest scoring Euroleague team.


@casperBGD, congrats with Partizan win and reaching playoffs after long break. This game is one of reasons why i love Euroleague. THAT Punter 3-pointer.
BTW, surprised to see Nole supporting Partizan, I laways thought that he is Crvena Zvezda fan :).


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on April 08, 2023, 09:49:40 AM
~snip
@casperBGD, congrats with Partizan win and reaching playoffs after long break. This game is one of reasons why i love Euroleague. THAT Punter 3-pointer.
BTW, surprised to see Nole supporting Partizan, I laways thought that he is Crvena Zvezda fan :).

big win last night, it was an all-round interesting match, we were first down, then up, but had to settle for a narrow victory, yeah, on Punter 3-pointer wings
Djoko is Zvezda fan, but he lives in Monaco, and he said I support Partizan whenever they do not play Crvena Zvezda

overall, after this, Partizan could end-up playing Monaco again in play-off

Thanks for greetings, but Zalgiris really isn't my team
~snip

Rytas?


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: CLS63 on April 08, 2023, 02:36:31 PM
There are so many probabilities that can happen on the final week in the Euroleague. Even Fenerbahce which are at the 5th position now could stay out of play-off area. However I think we will finish the regular season at the 5th position by winning against Crvena zvezda away. Partizan have really become a scary team under Obradovic's management that nobody would like to have a matchup against.

https://i.ibb.co/54vRF9H/kaynakismail.jpg (https://ibb.co/NCpyS3B)

Source: @ismailsenol(twitter)


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on April 08, 2023, 11:24:19 PM
Rytas?
Yes  8). We played in Euroleague in past, had some good seasons, but now it's not best times of club, despite that we won Lithuanian league last season after more than decade break.

There are so many probabilities that can happen on the final week in the Euroleague. Even Fenerbahce which are at the 5th position now could stay out of play-off area. However I think we will finish the regular season at the 5th position by winning against Crvena zvezda away. Partizan have really become a scary team under Obradovic's management that nobody would like to have a matchup against.

[]

Source: @ismailsenol(twitter)
 (https://ibb.co/NCpyS3B)
Thanks for sharing it, very interesting stuff. Last regular season round will be very exciting to follow with so many possible scenarios.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on April 10, 2023, 08:33:21 AM
~snip
Yes  8). We played in Euroleague in past, had some good seasons, but now it's not best times of club, despite that we won Lithuanian league last season after more than decade break.

I remember that we played a lot in the past (we had almost a decade without EL before this season, as well)

There are so many probabilities that can happen on the final week in the Euroleague. Even Fenerbahce which are at the 5th position now could stay out of play-off area. However I think we will finish the regular season at the 5th position by winning against Crvena zvezda away. Partizan have really become a scary team under Obradovic's management that nobody would like to have a matchup against.

hopping for those options seeing us on position 5
Zvezda will probably lose match against Fenerbahce, agree, but hoping to see different outcome, Monaco is easiest way to end-up on F4, all other options are pretty tough to win away match


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: JooBra on April 10, 2023, 08:51:21 AM
~snip
Yes  8). We played in Euroleague in past, had some good seasons, but now it's not best times of club, despite that we won Lithuanian league last season after more than decade break.

I remember that we played a lot in the past (we had almost a decade without EL before this season, as well)

There are so many probabilities that can happen on the final week in the Euroleague. Even Fenerbahce which are at the 5th position now could stay out of play-off area. However I think we will finish the regular season at the 5th position by winning against Crvena zvezda away. Partizan have really become a scary team under Obradovic's management that nobody would like to have a matchup against.

hopping for those options seeing us on position 5
Zvezda will probably lose match against Fenerbahce, agree, but hoping to see different outcome, Monaco is easiest way to end-up on F4, all other options are pretty tough to win away match
Well I'm not sure at Fenerbache win since it's not easy to win in Belgrade. Things can open for Partizan to be fifth and then they would be favorites against Monaco. Having Zvezda-Fener and Macabi-Real makes that a option. Let's see what happens.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: CLS63 on April 10, 2023, 05:12:56 PM
~snip
Yes  8). We played in Euroleague in past, had some good seasons, but now it's not best times of club, despite that we won Lithuanian league last season after more than decade break.

I remember that we played a lot in the past (we had almost a decade without EL before this season, as well)

There are so many probabilities that can happen on the final week in the Euroleague. Even Fenerbahce which are at the 5th position now could stay out of play-off area. However I think we will finish the regular season at the 5th position by winning against Crvena zvezda away. Partizan have really become a scary team under Obradovic's management that nobody would like to have a matchup against.

hopping for those options seeing us on position 5
Zvezda will probably lose match against Fenerbahce, agree, but hoping to see different outcome, Monaco is easiest way to end-up on F4, all other options are pretty tough to win away match
Well I'm not sure at Fenerbache win since it's not easy to win in Belgrade. Things can open for Partizan to be fifth and then they would be favorites against Monaco. Having Zvezda-Fener and Macabi-Real makes that a option. Let's see what happens.

Playing away in Belgrad has always been very difficult for Euroleague teams. As Crvena zvezda don't have any chance left I don't think this away match will be very difficult for Fenerbahçe this time. However especially this season there have been many surprising results therefore one shouldn't talk certain.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on April 11, 2023, 12:56:47 PM
~snip
Playing away in Belgrad has always been very difficult for Euroleague teams. As Crvena zvezda don't have any chance left I don't think this away match will be very difficult for Fenerbahçe this time. However especially this season there have been many surprising results therefore one shouldn't talk certain.

Zvezda playing in Partizan favor is not an everyday situation as well, rivalry between teams is a bit high
looking at form, Partizan could have a chance to pass, if they finish fifth, and yeah Maccabi and Fenerbahce have their own chances, but obviously much harder matches than Partizan

Baskonia is in toughest position, Olympiakos also does not have much to play for, but I don't expect them to lose that one
Zalgiris @1.33 on an away match puts bet on Bayern handicap as good option for this round betting, not saying Zalgiris is not going to win, but their away score is pretty low


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on April 12, 2023, 10:44:28 PM
It's a bit strange that Euroleague not to make games of final rounds on the same time. Now some games that matters will be played not only on different time, but also in different days.
Olympiacos - Baskonia. Do or die game for Baskonia, while for Oly win would let them to become winners of regular season. But there is one little detail - since 2016/17 when new tournament format got introduced, regular season winners never won Euroleague. While bookmakers don't have much doubts about Oly win - just 1.30 for it.
Crvena Zvezda - Fenerbahche, I'm going with Fener win here. It's basically meaningless game for zvezda. Yeah, they can ruin situation for Partizan a bit, but we don't talk about eliminating them, so, I don't think that's big factor enough that could lead them to win.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: ajanwalker on April 13, 2023, 04:37:30 PM
Fenerbahce, which has been leading the scoreboard for a long time, faced the danger of being left out of the play-offs today. Because right now, it is in the 5th place on the scoreboard with 19 wins. If Fenerbahce wins their match (Red Stars away, I think it's very difficult) they will be in the last 8 without looking at their opponent. If he loses, he will wait for Baskonia and Zalgiris to lose their away games. If Baskonia and Zalgiris win their matches, Fenerbahçe will be eliminated from the play-offs. I hope Fenerbahçe, which I am a fan of, does not upset me.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: Joca97 on April 13, 2023, 06:12:13 PM
Fenerbahce, which has been leading the scoreboard for a long time, faced the danger of being left out of the play-offs today. Because right now, it is in the 5th place on the scoreboard with 19 wins. If Fenerbahce wins their match (Red Stars away, I think it's very difficult) they will be in the last 8 without looking at their opponent. If he loses, he will wait for Baskonia and Zalgiris to lose their away games. If Baskonia and Zalgiris win their matches, Fenerbahçe will be eliminated from the play-offs. I hope Fenerbahçe, which I am a fan of, does not upset me.

Watching the match currently and Crvena zvezda is slightly better then Fenerbahce and now in the third quarter its a tie. So a really close game between these two teams. Fenerbahce needs to do better if they want to beat Crvena Zvezda in this match


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on April 13, 2023, 07:43:30 PM
~snip
Crvena Zvezda - Fenerbahche, I'm going with Fener win here. It's basically meaningless game for zvezda. Yeah, they can ruin situation for Partizan a bit, but we don't talk about eliminating them, so, I don't think that's big factor enough that could lead them to win.


Zvezda fought for us till the end, and won in overtime, this is opening the way for Partizan to get position 5 in case Maccabi lose as well, and it is all open there, equal match at the end of 3rd quarter
Olympiakos is winning over Baskonia, so Zalgiris will probably close out to be top8 team as well

top4 have home advantage, but overall I expect really interesting matches for F4, pity that we could end-up to play Barca, that proved as most difficult rival for us during season


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on April 13, 2023, 10:23:36 PM
Zvezda fought for us till the end, and won in overtime, this is opening the way for Partizan to get position 5 in case Maccabi lose as well, and it is all open there, equal match at the end of 3rd quarter
Olympiakos is winning over Baskonia, so Zalgiris will probably close out to be top8 team as well

top4 have home advantage, but overall I expect really interesting matches for F4, pity that we could end-up to play Barca, that proved as most difficult rival for us during season
Maccabi won against Real in overtime, Baskonia lost to Oly. These results means that Fenerbahche is already in Top 8 and Baskonia will be eliminated if Zalgiris will win tomorrow. Zalgiris can finish 7th if they will win their game against Bayern and Partizan will beat Bayern. And we already know one playoff pair - Monaco - Maccabi.
Agree that playoffs should be exciting. IIRC, last 2 seasons when P1 faced P8 all 5 games were needed. I think we can expect similar things and I hope to see more 5 games series.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: Joca97 on April 14, 2023, 04:53:06 PM
Zvezda fought for us till the end, and won in overtime, this is opening the way for Partizan to get position 5 in case Maccabi lose as well, and it is all open there, equal match at the end of 3rd quarter
Olympiakos is winning over Baskonia, so Zalgiris will probably close out to be top8 team as well

top4 have home advantage, but overall I expect really interesting matches for F4, pity that we could end-up to play Barca, that proved as most difficult rival for us during season
Maccabi won against Real in overtime, Baskonia lost to Oly. These results means that Fenerbahche is already in Top 8 and Baskonia will be eliminated if Zalgiris will win tomorrow. Zalgiris can finish 7th if they will win their game against Bayern and Partizan will beat Bayern. And we already know one playoff pair - Monaco - Maccabi.
Agree that playoffs should be exciting. IIRC, last 2 seasons when P1 faced P8 all 5 games were needed. I think we can expect similar things and I hope to see more 5 games series.

Well some of the matches are known . I was hoping that Real Madrid would beat Maccabi so that Partizan can go on Monaco but Maccabi beated Real Madrid somehow in overtime and mostly we know the outcomes in the top 8. Fenerbahce got lucky that Baskonia lost .


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on April 14, 2023, 04:58:43 PM
-snip
Maccabi won against Real in overtime, Baskonia lost to Oly. These results means that Fenerbahche is already in Top 8 and Baskonia will be eliminated if Zalgiris will win tomorrow. Zalgiris can finish 7th if they will win their game against Bayern and Partizan will beat Bayern. And we already know one playoff pair - Monaco - Maccabi.


we will probably beat PAO, although I have a handicap bet on PAO, not sure what good for us is to lose that one, maybe Real is easier rival than Barca

Maccabi and Monaco smells like 5 matches, but I think that Maccabi is closer to F4 spot
all other teams are underdogs against top3, and will need a full effort without blanks to see Zalgirio arena


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on April 14, 2023, 09:01:21 PM
Zalgiris become last team which jumped into playoffs. But it already looked that something similar like Tel Aviv 2004 tragedy will repeat again. Zalgiris had 10 points lead with 2 minutes remaining and then they let Bayern to make comeback. After all, Zalgiris players didn't missed free-throws in the end and won game. This result eliminates Baskonia.
Partizan won against Pao just after overtime. It was meaningless games for Bayern or Partizan, but it looked like it's do or die games for them.
Playoff bracket is full now:
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/09/10/meUUz.jpeg
Source https://twitter.com/EuroLeague/status/1646977211386216449
Saras with Barcelona is going to face his former team Zalgiris, sounds like epic pair. And yeah, Maccabi - Monaco sounds like most likely to be 5 games series.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: ajanwalker on April 14, 2023, 09:20:57 PM
Matches are clear. Olimpiakos-Fenerbahçe matched. The clear favorite is Olympiacos. Maybe they can sweep Fenerbahçe with 3-0. Barça matched with Zalgiris. It was an interesting matchup for Sarunas and Barça eliminated Zalgirisi. I think Real Madrid and Partizan were a critical match. Even if Real is the favorite on paper, the result is open to any score. Between Monaco and Maccabi, Maccabi seems to pass this round. It looks like a fight between two equal teams. It is a fact that no team that finished the regular season at the top could become the champion. We will wait and see if Olympiacos will change this situation.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: CLS63 on April 14, 2023, 09:32:34 PM
The regular season in the Euroleague has been quite competitive this season. The biggest surprise has been Anadolu Efes' not being able to qualify for playoffs. Because they are the champions of the recent two seasons. As for the playoff matchups I don't think Monaco can qualify for final four although they have court advantage. Mike James is harming Monaco's team chemistry.

I don't think Fenerbahce which I'm a supporter of have a chance against Olympiacos unfortunately. I hope I become wrong about this.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on April 16, 2023, 03:05:39 PM
-snip
Playoff bracket is full now:

Real is IMO better choice for us than Barca, but I would put our chances between 20-25%, not more than that

Monaco and Maccabi is looking at five matches, Olympiakos will probably finish series in four, same as Barca and Real, hoping to see different outcome dough

Maccabi and Partizan have best form in second part of the season, if that counts


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on April 22, 2023, 06:02:54 PM
Real is IMO better choice for us than Barca, but I would put our chances between 20-25%, not more than that

Monaco and Maccabi is looking at five matches, Olympiakos will probably finish series in four, same as Barca and Real, hoping to see different outcome dough

Maccabi and Partizan have best form in second part of the season, if that counts
More or less agree with your predictions. I doubt that we will see series that it will end 3:0. Monaco - Maccabi should be very interesting, both teams is fun to watch, not going to predict something here. Oly is heavy favorite, but Fener can win 1 game I think. Real - Partizan, wouldn't be very surprised if all 5 games will be needed, but Real probably will win. Zalgiris recent record with Barcelona isn't bad, but seems that Barca now is in good form, they dominated in recent El Clasico against Real in ACB league.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: Joca97 on April 22, 2023, 06:47:33 PM
Real is IMO better choice for us than Barca, but I would put our chances between 20-25%, not more than that

Monaco and Maccabi is looking at five matches, Olympiakos will probably finish series in four, same as Barca and Real, hoping to see different outcome dough

Maccabi and Partizan have best form in second part of the season, if that counts
More or less agree with your predictions. I doubt that we will see series that it will end 3:0. Monaco - Maccabi should be very interesting, both teams is fun to watch, not going to predict something here. Oly is heavy favorite, but Fener can win 1 game I think. Real - Partizan, wouldn't be very surprised if all 5 games will be needed, but Real probably will win. Zalgiris recent record with Barcelona isn't bad, but seems that Barca now is in good form, they dominated in recent El Clasico against Real in ACB league.
Monaco and Maccabi will fight hard and i think we will see 4-5 games for sure in them. Also i think my Partizan will give Real Madrid a hard time and if somehow makes a break and wins in Madrid i think Partizan can go to the final four. We all know good Partizan crowd is and that no body can win easily there


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on April 22, 2023, 07:48:53 PM
~snip
Also i think my Partizan will give Real Madrid a hard time and if somehow makes a break and wins in Madrid i think Partizan can go to the final four. We all know good Partizan crowd is and that no body can win easily there

winning one match in Madrid could be crucial, but it will be hard as hell, although not impossible
Partizan won over Buducnost in ABA league, and secured top spot for play-off, so now can fully concentrate on Real, that is not in particularly great form atm, and that is our chance
nevertheless, our chances are slim, but would not say non-existing, to kick-them out and qualify for F4


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: CLS63 on April 22, 2023, 08:06:20 PM
I don't think that Fenerbahçe can qualify for final-four. However I think we won't lose to Olympiacos in Istanbul. I think the Real Madrid - Partizan series is going to be the most enjoyable one for basketball lovers. Besides I'm very curious about how Šarūnas Jasikevičius will perform as a coach against Zalgiris as well.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: ajanwalker on April 25, 2023, 07:19:34 AM
Euroleague last 8 matches start today. Monaco is playing Maccabi at home and Monaco is the favorite of the match. The hosts have been victorious in the matches played between them in the last two years. Monaco will most likely win the game. In the other game of the day, Real Madrid will host Partizan. Real Madrid is close to winning the match with its field advantage, but Partizan can surprise. Even if Partizan falls behind in matches, they never quit the match. After all, they have coach Obradovic. Everything is expected from the team of a coach who has won the most trophies in the Euroleague.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on April 25, 2023, 08:45:26 AM
~snip
In the other game of the day, Real Madrid will host Partizan. Real Madrid is close to winning the match with its field advantage, but Partizan can surprise. Even if Partizan falls behind in matches, they never quit the match. After all, they have coach Obradovic. Everything is expected from the team of a coach who has won the most trophies in the Euroleague.

with odds on the match, I would put money on Partizan handicap, you can get around @1.6 with -8.5, even -9.5 on some bookies, and that should be in, even if we lose the match (which will probably be final outcome)
Real is not in great form, we have lined wins and hype is real, local papers eyeing EL title already

squad is now complete, Obradovic is red-faced as always, Real is probably without Poirier tonight, let's hope for the best


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on April 25, 2023, 09:46:04 AM
Euroleague last 8 matches start today. Monaco is playing Maccabi at home and Monaco is the favorite of the match. The hosts have been victorious in the matches played between them in the last two years. Monaco will most likely win the game. In the other game of the day, Real Madrid will host Partizan. Real Madrid is close to winning the match with its field advantage, but Partizan can surprise. Even if Partizan falls behind in matches, they never quit the match. After all, they have coach Obradovic. Everything is expected from the team of a coach who has won the most trophies in the Euroleague.
Monaco is quite significant favorite and it's very important for them that Mike James is looking good. Interesting fact that he only played in Euroleague Final 4 - in his first season with Baskonia, when he was just role player. He probably want to change these stats finally.
As said above, Poirier is out, but I think it's not that big problem for them with their squad depth. They perfectly can play small ball. If Partizan would manage to win this game, they probably will turn almost into favorite in this pair.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: ajanwalker on April 25, 2023, 09:10:53 PM
Euroleague last 8 matches start today. Monaco is playing Maccabi at home and Monaco is the favorite of the match. The hosts have been victorious in the matches played between them in the last two years. Monaco will most likely win the game. In the other game of the day, Real Madrid will host Partizan. Real Madrid is close to winning the match with its field advantage, but Partizan can surprise. Even if Partizan falls behind in matches, they never quit the match. After all, they have coach Obradovic. Everything is expected from the team of a coach who has won the most trophies in the Euroleague.

Maccabi won away. Monaco continues to decline. The surprise of the night took place in Madrid. I also mentioned it in this post. I said Real Madrid is the favourite, but if there is Obradovic, it could be a surprise. Partizan defeated Real Madrid 87-89 away and took the field advantage just like Maccabi did. It will be difficult for Madrid in Belgrade. Olimpiakos is the best team in Euroleague this year. Fenerbahçe's job is very difficult in front of Olympiacos.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on April 25, 2023, 10:47:48 PM
Maccabi won away. Monaco continues to decline. The surprise of the night took place in Madrid. I also mentioned it in this post. I said Real Madrid is the favourite, but if there is Obradovic, it could be a surprise. Partizan defeated Real Madrid 87-89 away and took the field advantage just like Maccabi did. It will be difficult for Madrid in Belgrade. Olimpiakos is the best team in Euroleague this year. Fenerbahçe's job is very difficult in front of Olympiacos.
Real - Partizan game was something that we expect from playoffs. And I wouldn't even call Partizan win as surprise. It's a bit unexpected, but Partizan have such good team this year. And what a night for Punter. 26 points and buzzer beater that wins game. It's difficult to call last Partizan posession as good attack, but damn, he is such clutch player.
Very disappointing Monaco performance, Maccabi were leading almost whole game and I already starting to regret my prediction that all 5 games will be needed here. 15% Monaco 3 pointers made says it all.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on April 26, 2023, 06:00:41 AM
-snip
Real - Partizan game was something that we expect from playoffs. And I wouldn't even call Partizan win as surprise. It's a bit unexpected, but Partizan have such good team this year. And what a night for Punter. 26 points and buzzer beater that wins game. It's difficult to call last Partizan posession as good attack, but damn, he is such clutch player.
-snip

it was a real play-off match, and Punter finished it off with a magnificient three pointer to give us a lead
not a surprise, but definitely not expected outcome, I was sure they will no reap us, but winning there is hard for any team

we had a three pointer shot-out last night, at 50% it would be shame to lose in the end, but will have to put more effort in next match to keep it competitive
after this, we should not let this series get back to Madrid, hoping for a four match series


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: püsür on April 27, 2023, 09:03:53 AM
Real - Partizan game was something that we expect from playoffs. And I wouldn't even call Partizan win as surprise. It's a bit unexpected, but Partizan have such good team this year.
I totally agree. Every playoff both in Euroleague and Nba, we are accustomed to see this kind of results. But, we can see the effects of coaching even only in these games. Partizan has a legendary coach and they did great things this season and this game. On the other hand, Fenerbahce has also a great coach but he was not so good and their recent lose was almost entirely his fault. Carsen Edwards played only 3.5 minutes. Tyler Dorsey played 20 minutes while he was this ineffective. I would have kept Carsen Edwards in the game longer and paired with Canaan on defense. I like Calathes generally a lot but he was also ineffective for the offense(there is a great analysis video about him in Fenerbahce in Basketnews youtube https://youtu.be/CVMlUJHdPes). Fenerbahce desperately need Wilbekin for the next games. I know it is Itoudis' first season in Fener but a better coach would get better results with this team.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on April 27, 2023, 10:09:37 AM
I saw Oly - Fenerbahche game only partially, so, can't comment much about it. From what I saw Oly almost whole game had control of it. Have nothing against Fener, but I hardly can see them winning game 2.
Barcelona - Zalgiris. It seems that Zalgiris lost game before start of it. With 2 3-pointers made it's impossble to compete with Barca, especially when you let them to score 14 times from 3 point zone. But I doubt that we will see another +20 poonts game from Barca on Friday, I expect closer game.
Game 2 for Real - Partizan and Monaco - Maccabi. For me it feels that Real will make series 1:1 today, though I would prefer Partizan win.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on April 27, 2023, 07:42:23 PM
~snip
For me it feels that Real will make series 1:1 today, though I would prefer Partizan win.

up to now, we play as fans can wish for, +14 at the moment, on half-time
and that is even without having blasts with three pointers, because those are not suiting us at all at the moment

we just need to stay calm in second half, and finish it off

in other match, Monaco is now close to first win, that would level the series to 1:1


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: Joca97 on April 27, 2023, 09:05:07 PM
Another win for Partizan and now its 2-0 and we have made two breaks on their field. Competely destroyed Real Madrid in this second match. But what an incident in the end of the match and with 1:45 left to go the game ended because of a crazy fight in the end.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on April 27, 2023, 09:14:12 PM
What happened today in Madrid is shame. Real simply don't know how to lose. I haven't seen anything similar since when Nenad Krstic was throwing chairs:
https://twitter.com/BasketNews_com/status/1651690275016699908
I'm not going to justify players of both teams, but Yabuselle should be banned from basketball, it's not wrestling. Seems that Exum got injured by him. I'm wondering how many players of both teams will be banned for the next game. And I'm trying to imagine how ''warm'' welcome Real will get in Belgrade. I think that case is closed now and and Partizan will close series in Game 3
Difficult to comment something about other game after things that happened in Madrid but I will say few words. We saw completely different face of Monaco than in Game 1. Compliments goes to coach Obradovic.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: Joca97 on April 27, 2023, 09:46:34 PM
What happened today in Madrid is shame. Real simply don't know how to lose. I haven't seen anything similar since when Nenad Krstic was throwing chairs:
https://twitter.com/BasketNews_com/status/1651690275016699908
I'm not going to justify players of both teams, but Yabuselle should be banned from basketball, it's not wrestling. Seems that Exum got injured by him. I'm wondering how many players of both teams will be banned for the next game. And I'm trying to imagine how ''warm'' welcome Real will get in Belgrade. I think that case is closed now and and Partizan will close series in Game 3
Difficult to comment something about other game after things that happened in Madrid but I will say few words. We saw completely different face of Monaco than in Game 1. Compliments goes to coach Obradovic.

Yabousele must be banned for a long time after what he has done. I just wonder how many players will be banned. But i wouldnt be surprised if they ban a couple of partizan players just to help Real Madrid. But once they came to Belgrade it will be the hottest atmosfere ever seen


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on April 27, 2023, 10:07:52 PM
Yabousele must be banned for a long time after what he has done. I just wonder how many players will be banned. But i wouldnt be surprised if they ban a couple of partizan players just to help Real Madrid. But once they came to Belgrade it will be the hottest atmosfere ever seen
Well, to be honest, Partizan players aren't inoccent too, I think that Lessort is likely to get ban after what he done to Musa. Punter didn't kept his head cool, but I can understand him after such Llull foul. I'm not sure that Euroleague is going to help Real by banning Partizan players. But I think that Real may try to ask to held game without spectators for security of their players. I hope it won't happen, otherwise Eurloeague will hit new bottom.
BTW, Exum left arena with cruches, it looks sad:
https://twitter.com/BasketNews_com/status/1651706213430878208


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on April 28, 2023, 05:49:39 AM
~snip
Well, to be honest, Partizan players aren't inoccent too, I think that Lessort is likely to get ban after what he done to Musa. Punter didn't kept his head cool, but I can understand him after such Llull foul.

well, IMO, Punter could just smile to Lull, and said that he has contact to secure a discount for a new TV for him, since they will be watching F4 at home
joke aside, but it wasn't easy to keep head cool in this situation, but we could have better reaction to their provocation
it is 2:0 now, but it all depend on Euroleague ban decision, not sure that they could decide to play without spectators here in Belgrade due to incident in Madrid on the pitch, but everything can happen

looking at match, we were simply better team last night


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: Joca97 on April 28, 2023, 04:00:06 PM
Yabousele must be banned for a long time after what he has done. I just wonder how many players will be banned. But i wouldnt be surprised if they ban a couple of partizan players just to help Real Madrid. But once they came to Belgrade it will be the hottest atmosfere ever seen
Well, to be honest, Partizan players aren't inoccent too, I think that Lessort is likely to get ban after what he done to Musa. Punter didn't kept his head cool, but I can understand him after such Llull foul. I'm not sure that Euroleague is going to help Real by banning Partizan players. But I think that Real may try to ask to held game without spectators for security of their players. I hope it won't happen, otherwise Eurloeague will hit new bottom.
BTW, Exum left arena with cruches, it looks sad:
https://twitter.com/BasketNews_com/status/1651706213430878208

The punishments are in. Lessort 1 match ban, Punter 2 match ban from Partizan. From Real Madrid Yabousele 5 match ban and Deck 1 match ban. I think that Real Madrid got a good boost for the third game because Partizan lost their two best players in the next game. Also if Partizan wins i dont know if that means that Punter wont play in the semi-final?


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: emrecemsan on April 28, 2023, 04:03:05 PM
What happened today in Madrid is shame. Real simply don't know how to lose. I haven't seen anything similar since when Nenad Krstic was throwing chairs:
https://twitter.com/BasketNews_com/status/1651690275016699908
I'm not going to justify players of both teams, but Yabuselle should be banned from basketball, it's not wrestling. Seems that Exum got injured by him. I'm wondering how many players of both teams will be banned for the next game. And I'm trying to imagine how ''warm'' welcome Real will get in Belgrade. I think that case is closed now and and Partizan will close series in Game 3
Difficult to comment something about other game after things that happened in Madrid but I will say few words. We saw completely different face of Monaco than in Game 1. Compliments goes to coach Obradovic.

I totally agree with you on this. I thought for once that I was watching WWE instead of a basketball match after Yabusele's judo move on Exum. People have started to talk about a possible prison sentence for Yabusele and many people want this to happen as well. I think he really deserves a big punishment for this. Because it isn't an action we see in this sport often. Yabusele must have gone mad and had serious issues on controlling his temper in that moment.

I have heard of some news regarding to this incident like Yabusele apologized for this horrible move. But apology can't be enough for this of course. He can face a 4-year prohibition from competing in the Euroleague and it can turn into a lifetime prohibition as well. I'm very curious about what the final decision about him will be.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on April 28, 2023, 06:35:56 PM
~snip
The punishments are in. Lessort 1 match ban, Punter 2 match ban from Partizan. From Real Madrid Yabousele 5 match ban and Deck 1 match ban.

shame on Euroleague
Lull started all shit, and did not get any punishment for that, and Partizan lost best players for third match and Punter for fourth match as well (chances are we will have to play fourth match without main players in third match)
and why the hell Punter got bigger punishment than Lessort? seems that Real is pushed to get back their position after this, although they started whole thing


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: Joca97 on April 28, 2023, 06:38:35 PM
~snip
The punishments are in. Lessort 1 match ban, Punter 2 match ban from Partizan. From Real Madrid Yabousele 5 match ban and Deck 1 match ban.

shame on Euroleague
Lull started all shit, and did not get any punishment for that, and Partizan lost best players for third match and Punter for fourth match as well (chances are we will have to play fourth match without main players in third match)
and why the hell Punter got bigger punishment than Lessort? seems that Real is pushed to get back their position after this, although they started whole thing

Well the only thing im intrested is if Partizan win the third game will Punter be able to play in the semi final or not. He is our best player and in third game Partizan might play without three players. Punter and Lessort are the best plus Exum if injured might be the third best player that wont play. Even with home advantage it will be rough to win


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: CLS63 on April 28, 2023, 07:37:09 PM
https://i.ibb.co/LvNdST3/fbb.jpg (https://ibb.co/FnH46QF)

After Fenerbahçe scored only 10 points in the first quarter I bet on this because of thinking that they would show some reaction in the second quarter. Especially in the second quarter Edwards' 3-pointers helped Fenerbahçe become a part of the game again. However I think we have a very difficult job in the 2nd half.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: ajanwalker on April 28, 2023, 08:45:45 PM
Fenerbahce defeated Olimpiakos 78-82 away and took the field advantage. It is a fact that Olimpiakos is a very effective team on the road as well. If Fenerbahçe wants to become the Euroleague champion, it has to eliminate Olimpiakos. If Olympiacos is eliminated, the statistics will not surprise again. Because no team that finished the Euroleague groups as the leader became the champion.
Barcelona beat Zalgiris 89-81 at home, making the situation 2-0. Lithuania will also step into the Barça Final Four in a possible Barcelona win.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on April 28, 2023, 09:43:58 PM
Fenerbahche surprised me by winning in Piraeus, especially after they lost 1st quarter 24:10. Maybe I understimated Fener too much...
Barcelona - Zalgiris, as I predicted, it was more close game than first one. Looking at stats, none of teams din't had significant advantages today, Zalgiris played good game, but it's not enough to win against Barca when they have such quality players.

shame on Euroleague
Lull started all shit, and did not get any punishment for that, and Partizan lost best players for third match and Punter for fourth match as well (chances are we will have to play fourth match without main players in third match)
and why the hell Punter got bigger punishment than Lessort? seems that Real is pushed to get back their position after this, although they started whole thing
I can understand why Llull didn't got punished. He got unsportsmanlike foul initially for what he done to Punter, but later he haven't done anything basically, he just watched conflict. But yeah, I don't understand decision to give different penalties. Punter haven't done something more than Lessort or Deck to get bigger penalty and now he will miss semifinal if Partizan will win Game 3. It would be more fair to ban all them for 1 game, except Yabusele obviously. Real exit this situation as winners, they haven't lost key players, unlike Partizan and it's likely that Tavares will return for Game 3. Only positive thing for Partizan that Exum didn't got serious injury.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on April 29, 2023, 06:49:39 PM
all in all, after first week of play-offs, Barca is the only top4 team with two wins, all other have mini-breaks at home, Real lost both matches

Barca will probably finish it off in second week, as well as Maccabi, Olympiakos is going to need fifth match in Athens to kick-out Fenerbahce, and not sure what to think about Partizan now, hoping to not slip the lead due to bans, but when complete, I am positive that we can win fifth in Madrid, if that happens


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: Joca97 on April 29, 2023, 06:53:42 PM
all in all, after first week of play-offs, Barca is the only top4 team with two wins, all other have mini-breaks at home, Real lost both matches

Barca will probably finish it off in second week, as well as Maccabi, Olympiakos is going to need fifth match in Athens to kick-out Fenerbahce, and not sure what to think about Partizan now, hoping to not slip the lead due to bans, but when complete, I am positive that we can win fifth in Madrid, if that happens

I heard some news that Punter might not be banned in the final four, but i think that is really hard still. Barcelona has a lock to go through but it wont be easy in Kaunas. The most intresting duel is between Fenerbahce and Olymipakos i honesty dont know who can win the series here


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: püsür on May 01, 2023, 10:33:58 AM
Fenerbahche surprised me by winning in Piraeus, especially after they lost 1st quarter 24:10. Maybe I understimated Fener too much...
Although I'm not a Fener fan myself, I can say even all the Fener fans were surprised as well. It was quite a great win. First home lost for Oly this season. As far as I understood, Marko Guduric played even though he had injury. Great character shown in the playoffs and he played great especially in the last quarter. This game Itoudis was also better. When he put aside his insistence and expanded the rotation, the players also relaxed and coach made everyone feel the game. At the end Fener played much better and got an important win in the away game. Next game, I heard fans are already preparing and Fener's chances are getting better. Fener can make a surprise in this series.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on May 02, 2023, 09:35:16 AM
big game tonight, odds do not favor us, me neither due to missing players, but it is a first chance in a row to secure F4 position, hopefully we will make it
pressure is certainly on Real, and good start can make things easier for us

In other match, Maccabi is a favorite against Monaco at home, but everything can happen, seems that Euroleague play-off will be really interesting this season, or is it just because Partizan is there again


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on May 02, 2023, 08:56:36 PM
Damn, another crazy night of Euroleague playoffs. And it's so sad that they make both games almost on the same time.
I think I never saw such atmosphere in Euroleague game like in Stark arena. And respect to Partizan fans for not doing something stupid what could hurt their own team. About game, Partizan gave it all, but it wasn't enough with short roster. That Williams - Goss 3 pointer killed Partizan. Ball in LeDay hands in decisive moments didn't looked like best idea, but they didn't had many options to choose. In game 4 Lessort and Deck will return to their teams.
Monaco made big surprise by winning in Tel Aviv and now they're 1 win away from Final 4. They weren't welcomed very warm, Monaco bus was even stopped by Maccabi fans. But Monaco were leading almost whole game and they made arena silent.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: ajanwalker on May 02, 2023, 09:11:31 PM
The 3rd games in the Euroleague started one evening. Partizan, who won both games in Madrid before, lost 80-82 against Real Madrid in front of their own pitch and their passionate audience. Before the match, a beautiful choreography was arranged for Coach Ovradovic. Partizan started the match effectively and closed the first period leading 32-19. Real Madrid weighed in in the second period and balanced the game. When Real dominated the 3rd period, they finished the match with an 80-82 win and made the situation 2-1 in the series. The next match will be played on May 4, and if they win the match, Partizan will advance to the Final Four, which will make the series 3-1. In the other match, Monaco defeated Maccabi 78-83 away and regained the field advantage. The next match will be on May 4th. If Monaco wins the game, it will be up to the Final Four.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: CLS63 on May 02, 2023, 09:15:52 PM
I'm wondering how Fenerbahçe will perform against Olympiacos tomorrow. Dorsey and Calathes need to take initiative more absolutely. If the series is extended to Pire again then I think Fenerbahçe's chance is scarcely any.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: ajanwalker on May 03, 2023, 08:12:16 PM
We lost the game with the basket we conceded at the last second and I went mad with sadness. Our former basketball player, Kostas Sloukas, made a magnificent three-pointer at the last second, causing Olimpiakos to win the game 71-72. When Sloukas shot and got a basket, he rushed to the locker room. He was rightfully delighted and deeply upset the audience of his former team. Three basketball players in Fenerbahçe reached double-digit scores. In Olimpiakos, Sloukas was the star of the match. Olimpiakos took a 2-1 lead in the series and regained his field advantage. In the other match of the night, it was expected and Barcelona defeated Zalgiris 66-77 away and swept Zalgiris 3-0 in the series.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on May 03, 2023, 08:16:01 PM
Fenerbahche - Olympiacos, I have no words about this game, it was simply epic. What happened in the end makes it into one of the best playoff games in Euroleague history. When Walkup lost ball in last seconds in such stupid way and Guduric scored 3 points it looked that Fener have everything in their hands. Oly had less than 4 seconds for attack and then Sloukas made difficult buzzer beater and won the game:
https://twitter.com/EuroLeague/status/1653847439881932800
It can be key win for Oly in series, but still wouldn't write off Fenerbahche, they already showed that they can win in Pireaus.
Barca won game in Kaunas against Zalgiris and booked tickets to Final 4 in fastest possible way. Simply different level and that's all. But Zalgiris shouln't be sad. From completely worst team in Euroleague last season they turned into playoff team when everyone saw them in the bottom again.

BTW, it seems that we will have another Spanish team in Euroleague next season. Gran Canaria is leading Turk Telekom by 20 points in Eurocup final. Probably most of Euroleague teams isn't happy about it because travelling to Las Palmas is long and difficult, they're so far away from continental Europe.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: CLS63 on May 03, 2023, 08:21:06 PM
Fenerbahçe have got behind in the series by losing the game in which they were comfortable until the last quarter with their old player Sloukas' buzzer-beater. I think that the coach's resting in Dorsey and Calathes in the last quarter was unnecessary. In this part Olympiacos had a 13-0 series and returned to the game. This was a quite heartbreaking loss for Fenerbahçe. I don't think we can pull ourselves together for 2 days after.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on May 04, 2023, 07:15:58 AM
Barca is already at F4, Olympiakos get their break back in thriller finish, and all top4 teams won first away match

and now back to Belgrade, we had dream start in first match, till we let Real get 0:11 series and be back into match, afterwards every ball could be a decider
hoping to finish it off tonight, and odds are now same for both teams, it is time


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: Joca97 on May 04, 2023, 06:02:21 PM
Barca is already at F4, Olympiakos get their break back in thriller finish, and all top4 teams won first away match

and now back to Belgrade, we had dream start in first match, till we let Real get 0:11 series and be back into match, afterwards every ball could be a decider
hoping to finish it off tonight, and odds are now same for both teams, it is time

Barcelona shows that they are on of the best currently in the euroleague. Olympiakos barely snatched the win in Turkey in last second and it was an impresive last second shot. For Partizan tonights game might decide a lot. They need to win at home or it will be really hard in Madrid


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on May 04, 2023, 08:47:48 PM
Damn, Real wins again in Belgrade and makes it 2:2. I remind that no team in Euroleague history haven't managed to make an comeback after they were down 0:2. It was another very close game, but Real were better in decisive moments. Though, at one moment when Partizan stolen 2 balls and scored 4 points in few seconds it looked that they still can break this game. Series returns to Madrid and Punter already will be available for Partizan, while it seems that Real's Deck got serious injury.
Maccabi simply destroyed Monaco 104:69. They decided game by making 20:0 run in 2nd half and never looked back. Most of us expected 5 games series, but for me it was difficult to imagine scenario like in this game. So, now Game 5 in Monaco and I'm not going to predict anything


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: ajanwalker on May 04, 2023, 09:08:13 PM
Damn, Real wins again in Belgrade and makes it 2:2. I remind that no team in Euroleague history haven't managed to make an comeback after they were down 0:2. It was another very close game, but Real were better in decisive moments. Though, at one moment when Partizan stolen 2 balls and scored 4 points in few seconds it looked that they still can break this game. Series returns to Madrid and Punter already will be available for Partizan, while it seems that Real's Deck got serious injury.
Maccabi simply destroyed Monaco 104:69. They decided game by making 20:0 run in 2nd half and never looked back. Most of us expected 5 games series, but for me it was difficult to imagine scenario like in this game. So, now Game 5 in Monaco and I'm not going to predict anything

In both matches, the final matches will determine the team that will go to the next round. I think Partizan has lost a big advantage it has gained. I think Real Madrid will easily beat Partizan. In the other match, I believe Maccabi will go to the next round by defeating Monaco on the road. Because Maccabi is a more experienced team.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on May 05, 2023, 07:01:52 AM
we didn't had enough on our bench to win last night, two players are simply not enough to beat Real, even with home advantage and great atmosphere
two moments looked at chances, on 70:71 and 78:80, but we didn't do that after all, and it would be needed to win in Madrid again

but when complete, it is possible to win another in Madrid, home turf was a pressure on incomplete team, now pressure is back on Real, since they are back on favorite path

whatever happen next week, great season for Partizan, and goal is to secure next Euroleague season first, through ABA league


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: ajanwalker on May 05, 2023, 08:54:26 PM
The importance of Sloukas' three pointer in the previous game was once again revealed. If it weren't for that three-pointer, today Fenerbahce would have made it to the Final Four. Maybe thanks to that three-pointer, Olympiacos made it to the Final Four. There is one more game for that. Olimpiakos, who finished the regular season in first place, and Fenerbahçe, who finished eighth, are fighting head-to-head. When the match came out, there was an expectation that Olympiacos would win comfortably, but it never happened. Today, the 4th game of the series was played and Fenerbahce defeated the match 73-69 in its own hall. Sloukas, who marked the previous match, took 22 minutes in the match, but contributed 3 points for his team. I'm looking forward to the last game of the series.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: Joca97 on May 05, 2023, 09:23:47 PM
The importance of Sloukas' three pointer in the previous game was once again revealed. If it weren't for that three-pointer, today Fenerbahce would have made it to the Final Four. Maybe thanks to that three-pointer, Olympiacos made it to the Final Four. There is one more game for that. Olimpiakos, who finished the regular season in first place, and Fenerbahçe, who finished eighth, are fighting head-to-head. When the match came out, there was an expectation that Olympiacos would win comfortably, but it never happened. Today, the 4th game of the series was played and Fenerbahce defeated the match 73-69 in its own hall. Sloukas, who marked the previous match, took 22 minutes in the match, but contributed 3 points for his team. I'm looking forward to the last game of the series.

Yeah that Sloukas three in the third game was important. In this duel we are just going back and forth with the wins. Only duel that didnt go into the fifth match is Barcelona vs Zalgiris witch was just a sweep by Barca. I think Olymipakos might win this duel at home against Fenerbahce,but so far all matches are low points and close


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on May 05, 2023, 11:54:37 PM
Yeah that Sloukas three in the third game was important. In this duel we are just going back and forth with the wins. Only duel that didnt go into the fifth match is Barcelona vs Zalgiris witch was just a sweep by Barca. I think Olymipakos might win this duel at home against Fenerbahce,but so far all matches are low points and close
This year playoff is simply on fire. I don't remember did we ever had 3 seeies reaching Game 5. Euroleague had one job and they failed to do it. How you can make Game 5 between Monaco - Maccabi and Real - Partizan played almost on the same time... I don't even talk about Champions league semifinals on the same time
Fenerbahche - Olympiacos game today was low scoring again, but in 4th quarter both teams started dropping 3 pointers in the end like crazy. One of key points of Fener win that they completely stopped Sasha Vezenoov, who scored just 2 points.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: püsür on May 06, 2023, 09:23:56 PM
Yeah that Sloukas three in the third game was important. In this duel we are just going back and forth with the wins. Only duel that didnt go into the fifth match is Barcelona vs Zalgiris witch was just a sweep by Barca. I think Olymipakos might win this duel at home against Fenerbahce,but so far all matches are low points and close
This year playoff is simply on fire. I don't remember did we ever had 3 seeies reaching Game 5. Euroleague had one job and they failed to do it. How you can make Game 5 between Monaco - Maccabi and Real - Partizan played almost on the same time... I don't even talk about Champions league semifinals on the same time
Fenerbahche - Olympiacos game today was low scoring again, but in 4th quarter both teams started dropping 3 pointers in the end like crazy. One of key points of Fener win that they completely stopped Sasha Vezenoov, who scored just 2 points.
This year's playoffs are indeed on fire. There was always great series and great basketball but I feel like this is one of the best playoffs in the last 20 years so far.

Kudos to Dimitrios Itoudis about his strategy and moves. He was heavily criticised some times in the season but he is showing great coaching right now. He reacted correctly to the Oly's tactics and both in defense and offense Fener responded successfully.

3 amazing Game 5s await us and I literally can't wait. It is indeed a scandal that two games overlap in the same time. I think I will start to watch Real-Partizan game on my phone. I wouldn't bet for these 3 games because I think they are open to any result. Even the 8th team Fenerbahce have a chance against regular season no.1.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on May 09, 2023, 09:38:37 AM
Tonight is game 5 between Olympiacos and Fenerbahche. Bookmakers clearly favoured Oly and probably it's not surprising. But game 5 can't be about strategy, it's impossible for coaches to surprise your opponent when you already played so many times this season. It's going to be very interesting, I think that Oly players is under big pressure, while nobody will crticize Fener players much if they will lose today.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on May 09, 2023, 07:45:57 PM
so far, Olympiakos is proving that they are favorites against Fenerbahce, 11 points up at the moment, and playing stable
not sure that Fener has what it takes to turn it over tonight, but it is game 5, and anything can happen till the end

we are having our night tomorrow, two loses, tough week in Serbia overall, so time to shine tomorrow evening, not sure that it is realistic to win, but it is certainly possible, pressure is on Real now


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on May 09, 2023, 09:44:19 PM
Olympiacos today showed why they're winners of regular season. I think it was their best game in series and they fully controlled it. Sloukas showed no mercy to his former team. For Fenerbahche it hurts to lose Game 5, but I think it was good season for them.
Real - Partizan and Monaco - Maccabi tomorrow. I really wish to see Partizan win tomorrow. In other game logic tells to back Maccabi. I expect it will be fun. Now I only need to get 3 screens - 2 for Euroleague and one for Champions league :D.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: CLS63 on May 09, 2023, 10:48:55 PM
Olympiacos today showed why they're winners of regular season. I think it was their best game in series and they fully controlled it. Sloukas showed no mercy to his former team. For Fenerbahche it hurts to lose Game 5, but I think it was good season for them.
Real - Partizan and Monaco - Maccabi tomorrow. I really wish to see Partizan win tomorrow. In other game logic tells to back Maccabi. I expect it will be fun. Now I only need to get 3 screens - 2 for Euroleague and one for Champions league :D.

It has been a season with ups and downs for us. If we didn't struggle with injuries I'm sure that we would have finished the regular season in a place which is much better than the 8th position. I need to say that I wasn't contented with the performance of the referees during the series in general as well. I hope Partizan eliminate Real Madrid tomorrow. However it is a really very big disadvantage to play the 5th match away.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on May 10, 2023, 06:41:25 AM
~snip
Now I only need to get 3 screens - 2 for Euroleague and one for Champions league :D.

I will use only one screen, watching Partizan tonight, hoping for the best
not sure what to expect, two match points at home were lost, but it was kind a expected, and I was thinking that we will eventually win fifth in Madrid

Real played ACB league in between our matches, we didn't play at all, maybe that could have some effect on tonight match as well

Maccabi vs Monaco is also 50/50 match, probably better to see Maccabi on F4 than Monaco


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: CLS63 on May 10, 2023, 09:18:56 PM
In Euroleague history none of the teams that play their 5th match away has been able to qualify for final four. Even though we are going to the 5th match in 3 out of 4 play-off matchups this year still the opposite hasn't happened.

Real Madrid managed to win against Partizan by coming back from quite behind. I was quite sad for Obradovic. I hope we can see Partizan and Obradovic in final four next year.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: Joca97 on May 10, 2023, 09:49:27 PM
What a bad beat for Partizan, we leaded in fifth game 18 points and lost in the end this really hurts. Real Madrid was so lucky with those threes in second half and took the win somehow. If it wasnt for that suspension things could have went the other way for sure.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on May 10, 2023, 10:29:06 PM
What a bad beat for Partizan, we leaded in fifth game 18 points and lost in the end this really hurts. Real Madrid was so lucky with those threes in second half and took the win somehow. If it wasnt for that suspension things could have went the other way for sure.
Real become first team in Euroleague history to make comeback from 0:2. It's even more amazing that they managed to do it when they were down by 18 points in Game 5. 4th quarter was amazing for Real, Llull, Rogriguez and Fernandez played like in their best times, Partizan couldn't do anything against Tavares who played with 4 fouls. Partizan managed to stay close until very end, but they struggled to make normal attack, many of them ended with random 3 pointers. Without suspension maybe it would have ended 3:0, but now it's only ''what if'' question.
I just add word about Fernandez - one moment he is dying with injured shoulder, minute later is dropping 3 pointers. Classic Fernandez and it's one of reasons why is probably most hated Eurloeague player.
Monaco wins game 5 against Maccabi, didn't saw it coming, despite that bookies favored Monaco today. Mike James was one fire in 1st half, but he was completely empty in 2nd half, but he got help from teammates, especially Loyd. Monaco reached Final 4 playing just 2nd their season in Eurloeague.
This season playoffs were maybe best in Euroleague history. Feel sorry for Partizan and their fans here.
Final 4 on 19-21th May in Kaunas. Real - Barca and Olympiacos - Monaco in semifinal.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on May 11, 2023, 06:24:09 AM
~snip
Real Madrid managed to win against Partizan by coming back from quite behind. I was quite sad for Obradovic. I hope we can see Partizan and Obradovic in final four next year.

we first need to secure our Euroleague spot for next season, but hoping to fight for F4 next season as well

~snip
This season playoffs were maybe best in Euroleague history. Feel sorry for Partizan and their fans here.

not sure what happened in second half, we lost control and it was really hard to watch the match
especially third quarter last minutes and start of fourth quarter, it was just slipping from our hands without any chance to stop it, and no control, as we were some middle table team from low level league

congrats to all F4 participants, it was an intense play-off series


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on May 19, 2023, 02:36:42 PM
So, Final 4 starts in less than 20 minutes, time to bump topic. It'snot easy to predict such single knockout games, almost every year we have at least one big upset. Anyway, I'm backing Olympiacos in first semfinal against Monaco.
Second semifinal - El Clasico. Bookmakers favouring Barca, but I think it's 50/50 game. You simply can't understimate Real after what they have done against Partizan.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on May 19, 2023, 07:22:31 PM
So, Final 4 starts in less than 20 minutes, time to bump topic. It'snot easy to predict such single knockout games, almost every year we have at least one big upset. Anyway, I'm backing Olympiacos in first semfinal against Monaco.
Second semifinal - El Clasico. Bookmakers favouring Barca, but I think it's 50/50 game. You simply can't understimate Real after what they have done against Partizan.

Olympiakos went through, and it was an easy one for them
Monaco was simply not enough to give them real troubles

El Classico on other end is really interesting, Real is back in lead, after being down in 2nd quarter, will probably be nervous till the end
have no real favorites on F4, but would like to see Olympiakos taking the title before Spaniards


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on May 19, 2023, 09:07:29 PM
Olympiakos went through, and it was an easy one for them
Monaco was simply not enough to give them real troubles

El Classico on other end is really interesting, Real is back in lead, after being down in 2nd quarter, will probably be nervous till the end
have no real favorites on F4, but would like to see Olympiakos taking the title before Spaniards
First half wasn't easy for Oly, but mainly because they were fighting with themselves - it was visible that they felt some pressure and tension in beginning. But 3rd quarter was something phenomenal - 27-2 and game was decided. Letting such team like Monaco to score just 2 points in 10 minutes is elite dfense.
Real - Barcelona - another masterclass from Real veterans trio. Especially Chacho Rodriguez who scored 9 points in a row in 4th quarter. And Tavares is such dominating force in European basketball. In 4th quarter Barca completly broke down, started making bad decision. And here we go again, Mirotic, highest paid Euroleague player is empty in crucial game. I think that this loss means end of Jasikevicius era in Barcelona after another not successful attempt to win Eurloeague. I doubt that winning ACB would save him.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on May 21, 2023, 10:32:03 AM
So, today is the day. First we're starting with 3rd place between Monaco and Barcelona. I'm not sure what's the point of this game. It will be about which team will find motivation. I think this game means more for Monaco.
And final between Olympiakos and Real. Despite everything what Real did in semifinal, I'm still favouring Oly. Mainly because they have who can stop Tavares - it's Moustapha Fall. Also, they will have huge support, at least 7000 fans arrived to Kaunas.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: CLS63 on May 21, 2023, 08:31:24 PM
After the incidents happened in the Partizan series I didn't want Real Madrid to become the champions. However they still managed to become the champions despite Sasha Vezenkov's 29-point performance.

To be honest, while we were into the last two minutes of the match I was thinking that Olympiacos would become the champions. However Llull's unbelievable shot brought the cup to Real Madrid. 🍊🍊🍊🍊


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on May 21, 2023, 09:38:21 PM
After the incidents happened in the Partizan series I didn't want Real Madrid to become the champions. However they still managed to become the champions despite Sasha Vezenkov's 29-point performance.

To be honest, while we were into the last two minutes of the match I was thinking that Olympiacos would become the champions. However Llull's unbelievable shot brought the cup to Real Madrid. 🍊🍊🍊🍊

Unbeleavable, team which didn't had to be in Final 4 wins Euroleague. And I can't say that they didn't deserved it, after comeback against Partizan and what they have done against Barca and now Olympiacos. Vezenkov - MVP perfromance, very solid game from Canaan,, but Olympacos lose game that they controlled almost whole time. Llull - he was completely empty, but then he made that amazing buzzer beater that bring trophy for Real. Rodriguez also was great, especially making 3 pointer in last minutes. What I can say about Real - this team simply have winners mentality and you never can write off them.
Not sure that's worth to say saomething about 3rd place game, it was difficult to watch and this game was great indicator hat Eurloeague have to remove it. Like I expected, Monaco had more motivation, but it's strange that Mike James spend almost whole game on the bench. I hope that nothing didn't happened between him and coach Obradovic.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: Joca97 on May 22, 2023, 08:02:53 AM
After the incidents happened in the Partizan series I didn't want Real Madrid to become the champions. However they still managed to become the champions despite Sasha Vezenkov's 29-point performance.

To be honest, while we were into the last two minutes of the match I was thinking that Olympiacos would become the champions. However Llull's unbelievable shot brought the cup to Real Madrid. 🍊🍊🍊🍊


This win from Real Madrid hurts even more,because i knew how close my team Partizan was to winning against Real Madrid and if it wasnt for that dirty fight they probobly wouldnt be standing there. But still to win all of those matches after losing is just amazing. That mentality is big and congrats to them for winning the euroleague.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on May 22, 2023, 08:05:50 AM
Olympiakos lost their title, and Real took it in last seconds, another comeback from their side
can't say that I am happy about it, especially after our matches with Real, but congrats on winning the title

looking at Olympiakos defense in last minute does not give them Champions look, they should make some better choices, and cold look on Giorgos face after their final miss was best sign that they lost something already claimed, since they were in the lead most of the match, and in last minute being 6 points up


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: püsür on May 22, 2023, 04:57:21 PM
Olympiakos lost their title, and Real took it in last seconds, another comeback from their side
can't say that I am happy about it, especially after our matches with Real, but congrats on winning the title

looking at Olympiacos defense in last minute does not give them Champions look, they should make some better choices, and cold look on Giorgos face after their final miss was best sign that they lost something already claimed, since they were in the lead most of the match, and in last minute being 6 points up
I agree about Olympiakos' defense. In this level, in these minutes, they were not how they were supposed to be. But these things happen. Apart from the incidents between Real Madrid and Partizan, I respect Real Madrid because the three veterans they have still performing quite good and Llull had an amazing finish. Llulls is 35, Sergio Rodríguez is 36 and Rudy Fernandez is 38 years old. Rudy was also amazing last summer in Eurobasket. You gotta respect that. The guys who have played together for years, know each other very well. They won all three games, while they had already given two of their home matches to partizan in the eventful series and when the series moved away, no one thought they would come out of serbia hell alive. The process for championship started there.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: CLS63 on May 22, 2023, 09:04:54 PM
After the incidents happened in the Partizan series I didn't want Real Madrid to become the champions. However they still managed to become the champions despite Sasha Vezenkov's 29-point performance.

To be honest, while we were into the last two minutes of the match I was thinking that Olympiacos would become the champions. However Llull's unbelievable shot brought the cup to Real Madrid. 🍊🍊🍊🍊


This win from Real Madrid hurts even more,because i knew how close my team Partizan was to winning against Real Madrid and if it wasnt for that dirty fight they probobly wouldnt be standing there. But still to win all of those matches after losing is just amazing. That mentality is big and congrats to them for winning the euroleague.

If it weren't for Sloukas' last second buzzer-beater Olympiacos also wouldn't have qualified for final four most probably. This year the competition in the Euroleague was really at a very high level. When we look at the squad quality I was thinking at the beginning of the season that Anadolu Efes would get a comfortable championship. However they couldn't even qualify for the playoffs and they have announced that they are going to part ways with the coach Ergin Ataman at the end of this year.


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: casperBGD on June 22, 2023, 08:16:56 PM
it is a bit off-topic, but Partizan was good last season in Euroleague, and now secured next season with a win over Zvezda in fifth match of our regional basketball league
it was a similar series to Partizan vs Real, we won first two for a 2:0 lead, just to spill it over next two, and ended on 2:2, for a decider
and decider was similar to last one against Real, we had 19 points up on halftime and it all started to melt in third quarter, but unlike Real that overturned completely, Zvezda reached to -4, and then we started playing again to secure a win

see you next season in Euroleague :)


Title: Re: Euroleague 2022/23 Season
Post by: LTU_btc on July 02, 2023, 07:14:46 PM
Seems that Euroleague is losing their biggest stars. It was already confirmed that MVP Sasha Vezenkov is moving to Sacramento Kings, signing 3 years $20 million contract. Vasa Micic moves Oklahoma Thunder with 3 years $23.5 million contract. There is also rumour that Suns are interested in Mike James. It's sad reality of Euroleague that nobody can pay such money, while in NBA bench warmers can get such contract. And it's undertandable that Euroleague stars want to try themselves in NBA. They have nothing to lose and even if they will fail, they always can return to Euroleague.
After winning ACB league it already looked that Jasikevicius is going to stay in Barcelona, but they decided to not extend contract. Barcelona president Laporta gave good explanation of this decision, but it looks very strange who they choose as replacement. Roger Grimau - Barca legend as player who managed only their youth team so far.