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Title: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: B1tUnl0ck3r on October 09, 2021, 09:35:29 PM
for me it's simple if once defeated they recognize and admit that it was just a job for them, and they were just pure mercs, fighting for another flag for money, and were already able to survive defeat, I am cool, go back home... away...

however those who pretended to have a flag and in reality fought for money, have nowhere to leave now, and better die.

simplicity, to bring back clarity, for finally harmony's return...

war haikua? cultural spoiling, a classic, of those who still have learn so many arts of the one way... a way they won't ever masterize... even they try hard :)

and did you find the real question yourselves?


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: Lordhermes on October 10, 2021, 01:20:36 AM
Soldier deserve to live, Reason is because they are fighting for the peace of the country and states, so every risk they take ,they deserved to be paid handsomely because it is not a simple game,it is a game of risk and a mind play.

They will leave their wonderful family out there so they can have a source of income and daily bread for the family.And also, we should also consider them because some lose their lifes while trying to fight for us,our safety, security and well been of all individual,therefore,they deserve to live,and as they say,"nothing goes for nothing" they are just been appreciated and paid for their good services in the country.


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: Rockstarguy on October 10, 2021, 06:45:02 AM
Soldiers who fight for money don't last long because they focus all their target and attention in making money, this interest make them do currupt things in getting money and it destroys their reputation. Real soldiers are not moved by money, all they think about is to serve even if it will take their life.


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: Similificator on October 10, 2021, 05:17:11 PM
Only a hypocrite will say that a soldier who fights for money doesn't deserve to live. We live and die for our goals be it for a better life for our loved ones or whatever. Who are we to judge what cause is better than the other? Morals differ for any culture and state of life. No one has the right to single out anyone in which they barely even know or hasn't even lived a life in the same shoes. I just hope most of the people will have the same mindset and put more effort into understanding before judging.


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: Maestro75 on October 10, 2021, 09:16:48 PM
They will leave their wonderful family out there so they can have a source of income and daily bread for the family.

Not all have wonderful families. Alot of them have dysfunctional homes with wives separated from them. Some of these soldiers are very mean and wicked and do not know how to maintain a family.

And also, we should also consider them because some lose their lifes while trying to fight for us,our safety, security and well been of all individual,therefore,they deserve to live,and as they say,"nothing goes for nothing" they are just been appreciated and paid for their good services in the country.

If they lose their lives while they are on duty, they get compensation for that. Soldiers are well paid in my country and I do not see anything special they do apart from staying on the roads and harassing unarmed civilians.


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on October 11, 2021, 07:38:57 PM
Be them soldiers or not, mercenaries fighting for money or whatever, they are humans most of all and deserves to live. It's not a new thing to be about a hustle for money. Armed forces or hired guns is a field, a vocation that has got to be filled by someone and that doesn't mean they shouldn't live based on whatever notion they had at a point.
These guys, some of them have got families, loved once and even pets that needs to be taken care of and as such, they hustle, fight fir which ever flag with the hope of coming back home and being with there families.
I feel for them a lot, they go through a lot and have gotten to adapt to a hard lifestyle to earn a living. It's much better than crime and as such, they should live in which ever circumstance.


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: Zilon on October 12, 2021, 09:22:56 PM
Everything existing under the atmosphere is done with the aim of getting rewards or payed for the service rendered. The case of this trained soldiers isn't any form of exception without money there is no motivation to work how would you expect men to volunteer their lives without any reward attached. They too deserve to live because going to war is a life treating adventure and for someone to volunteer his or her live so others could live should have something that would serve as a compensation for the sacrifice


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: rosenbauer02 on October 13, 2021, 03:57:05 AM
Don't you need money to live?. Do you think you can buy food without money?. Do you think it's easy to go to war and come back alive?. If you can experience to be a soldier and fight wars then you can answer that questions. Be respectful to soldiers. Mercenaries also have reason why they choose it, it may be that they won't be accepted to any job or whatever reason they have but one thing in common is that we are all human.


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: bakasabo on October 13, 2021, 08:01:21 AM
Soldiers who fight for money don't last long because they focus all their target and attention in making money, this interest make them do currupt things in getting money and it destroys their reputation. Real soldiers are not moved by money, all they think about is to serve even if it will take their life.

Here is the situation. You are a soldier. You train, serve, get salary. You have spend years being a soldier and demobilization occurs. This is same as being fired. What will you do, if you have family to feed? You will start to look for a job, but you will be offered only low paid, because you neither have experience, nor have necessary education. How many years can you survive doing low paid job? Of course such people become mercenaries and do what they trained to do. Identically, as a police officer after being fired will work as a guard, but not as a dentist.

Whole topic name question is absurd. Of course soldiers deserve to live. They are humans. For example, a butcher can also be called as an animal killer. A killer. Does a killer deserve to live? Or everyone must become vegans?


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: yhiaali3 on October 14, 2021, 04:15:49 PM
In fact, it is a very difficult question, I can not only say yes or no, there are many things that must be taken into account when answering this question, if you asked me this question several years ago, I would have answered you clearly: No, these people do not deserve life!!! But today, after years of devastating war here in my country and the spread of poverty and hunger, I see people who I know are good and hate evil, but in the end they had to become mercenaries fighting for money!!! Not for the money for themselves but for a simple life for their children and families!!! Today I can never answer this question because I know that these people deserve life but circumstances forced them, despite all that I cannot say that they are completely innocent because they agreed to kill in order to earn money!!!


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: Smartvirus on October 14, 2021, 08:19:19 PM
Apparently, in the line of jobs as a soldier, you get to be the enemy even if you weren't the enemy nor do you solely agree on the course for which you are deployed or hired for. It's the job and as much as you could be the one taking it up for those who believe it, your the victim at the frontline and when caught, you are treated like the enemy for fighting under that banner.

Should we face the real fact, war isn't a thing many persons enjoy, even for the soldiers. They are humans most of all and are all on the struggle to earn a living and afford there family a normal life. That, is the thing that most of these soldiers are really dying for and it's honourable.


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: KingsDen on October 14, 2021, 08:56:22 PM
All soldiers deserve to live irrespective of the course they are fighting. Soldiers live a regimented life. Whether fight for money, it might not be the fighter that will have the money. All fights are money induced.
Most times the fighters in the field don't know the reason they are fighting. It is their Lords who know the reason for the fight. So, for whatever reason they are sent to fight, they deserve to live.


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: OgNasty on October 14, 2021, 09:47:04 PM
I believe the American and Chinese military employ more people than any other business in the world.  Saying that all their employees should not deserve to live seems like you're advocating for the death of some of the largest groups of human beings on earth.  Personally, I'd rather there was no such thing as an army in today's society.  There really isn't a need for it and I think the failure in the middle east displays that.  I'm reminded of the quote, "fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity."  I think a lot of people in life, and especially on these forums should take that quote to heart.


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: Imam Nuddin on October 15, 2021, 02:27:01 AM
Soldier deserve to live, Reason is because they are fighting for the peace of the country and states, so every risk they take ,they deserved to be paid handsomely because it is not a simple game,it is a game of risk and a mind play.

They will leave their wonderful family out there so they can have a source of income and daily bread for the family.And also, we should also consider them because some lose their lifes while trying to fight for us,our safety, security and well been of all individual,therefore,they deserve to live,and as they say,"nothing goes for nothing" they are just been appreciated and paid for their good services in the country.
I totally agree with this opinion. they have sacrificed their personal interests for the interests of the state. they deserve to live and get their rights.


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: Gosgosking on October 15, 2021, 11:39:15 AM
Normally soldiers who fight for money or after money don't serve they get lost because they loose in concentration on what they doing. Some don't last longer in their services because of the distraction and sense of money they are after. Most of them who are into money hunting with curruption and bribing fully know the act they exhibit may put them in problem.


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: syedakhlaque on October 16, 2021, 07:28:11 AM
A soldier always fights for his country,s peace, stability, security, and good reputation. He bears the separation of his friends, children, relatives, and family.
He sacrifices his life for this high mission. He does whatever he is ordered to do for his country. He spends his life under great commitment. Earning or collecting money is not his main theme but earning to live and earning for his children and family is his basic need and necessity, not his purpose.


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: thefreethinker on October 16, 2021, 08:07:49 AM
Sigh!
I dont think soldiers who fight for money deserve to die, so yes they deserve to live. Reason being is this, just like any other professional career out there with money being it ends means, soldiers/mercenaries are also professionals with money as their ends means.

I would say soldiers who fight for money do not deserve to live only when they derailed from what is ideal, sadly soldiers have been poised by many forces ranging from political to economic and social forces and its seriously hurting the values of the mighty profession.


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: Betwrong on October 16, 2021, 11:32:55 AM
I think "soldiers who fight for money" should be the only soldiers in today's world. What can be more hideous than forcing people to fight, to kill others?

Only those who want to fight should join the military, only volunteers.

 Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live? Of course they do! Also, they deserve all the respect and more, because they fight against barbarian regimes of modern times. Many of them would do it even for free. Money is just a bonus for them.
 
 And I disagree with @OgNasty on that we don't need an army in today's society. We do need it, mate. Unfortunately, we still need it badly.


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: B1tUnl0ck3r on October 17, 2021, 06:32:30 AM
Many of them would do it even for free. Money is just a bonus for them.

Those are the only who deserve to live. It's simple, look at most so called american soldiers? they only kill others for money, they don't care about what's just, right or the thing to do, they just care about lining their pockets.

They are as such worthless. Furthermore as they fight for money, not for an ideal or belief or even simply their nations/homeland, they will easily betray for higher payers and even surrender their former nation/homeland.

They are simply said, traitors in the making.


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: thefreethinker on October 17, 2021, 07:16:28 AM
Furthermore as they fight for money, not for an ideal or belief or even simply their nations/homeland, they will easily betray for higher payers and even surrender their former nation/homeland.

They are simply said, traitors in the making.
Member you made a great point, i agree with you to a certain extent. But i would say that is subjective, thus cannot be generalized. We all agree there are rogue actors among the soldiers, service men and women that are not serving with passion for their Motherland or kinsmen but for the money and privileges. My point is there are good service men and women out there that are passionately serving and protecting their motherland.


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: Ebede on October 19, 2021, 08:45:53 AM
They are simply same humans as we are, they deserve to be paid to deserve better and bigger than we expect.
They risk their time,lives and families just for the peace and sake of the entire country and you tell me they don't deserve money ?
They do need to be paid heavily for their efforts in a nation.


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: Lordhermes on October 20, 2021, 03:35:02 AM
They are simply same humans as we are, they deserve to be paid to deserve better and bigger than we expect.
They risk their time,lives and families just for the peace and sake of the entire country and you tell me they don't deserve money ?
They do need to be paid heavily for their efforts in a nation.
They deserve to live and never to die because the risk they take in ensuring the peace and safety of the country is too much.If our politicians steals money successfully without anyone questioning them,then why won't our soldiers who take it upon themselves to serve the country with all their strength fight for money to ensure their family eat.We should know that what ever the soldiers do,they do it for their family,and not for themselves,because they have sold themselves to the government.Therefore,they deserve to live.


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: cabron on October 20, 2021, 05:02:34 AM


Soldiers who fight for money don't last long because they focus all their target and attention in making money, this interest make them do currupt things in getting money and it destroys their reputation. Real soldiers are not moved by money, all they think about is to serve even if it will take their life.

Soldiers are trained to follow orders. It's what they do. Whether those who send the command battle a moral dilemma or not, the soldier will execute achieving the mission and deserves to get paid. The leaders and the country benefits from the soldier's services like protecting civilians. The country's government will decide what they would do to the soldiers, if they decide to go to war, they better choose the winning side.


Title: Re: Do soldiers who fight for money deserve to live?
Post by: ifarted on October 20, 2021, 08:57:24 AM
Normally soldiers who fight for money or after money don't serve they get lost because they loose in concentration on what they doing. Some don't last longer in their services because of the distraction and sense of money they are after. Most of them who are into money hunting with curruption and bribing fully know the act they exhibit may put them in problem.
Yes, as a result, soldiers who fought for the money and not for the country don't really last long. They did not save the country because they are after for their own selfish needs which leads them to get lost. Soldiers who are like that doesn't deserve to be called a hero because they aimed for the money and not for the safety of the people and the country. Still, i do think that they deseve to live.

On the other hand if they fight for money to support their family it's totally fine because there's nothing wrong with it.

A soldier always fights for his country,s peace, stability, security, and good reputation. He bears the separation of his friends, children, relatives, and family.
He sacrifices his life for this high mission.
That is why i respect soldiers, they deserve the best because it's not easy to fight and put your life on the line. It is rather hard for them especially leaving their families behind. They are heroes who fought for the country. Without them, our country would not have been a great place to live because it is not safe and secured.