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Update  issue resolved satisfactorily ,  thank you to all involved

Again issue resolved professionally when I got replied too.   

If you want sincere help from the forum users, you need to follow the format of using this board. This will give them full picture and good basis of your complaint. They can't help you if you are just talking numbers here. Based from what I have seen, lightlord already paid their sig campaign participants, maybe site players will be next. But if you do want to get your winnings, better post your complaint in the below format -

Thanks !   Revising now

You haven't shared a lot more details that could help us figure out what happened. Please use the scam report format to guide you.

How long ago did you attempt to make a withdrawal?
Bitvest's Founder has been under the spotlight in the last few days (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364918.0) for being absent/Offline and not paying signature participants for almost 10 weeks. They say he was apparently sick, but no one knows for sure.

He came back and paid the participants all the 10 weeks today, Maybe you should try sending him a PM about your issue.

Hi
I did send him a pm.   He has not replied ,
I have been a player on bitvest for a while.  But never cashed out a substantial amount.   On Wednesday I had a very good run and won a good bit of money ,  I attempted a cash out and it just would not allow me to cash it out.  The transaction pin was tagged invalid .  I just used it a couple days earlier to cash out $520.00.   The pin is correct.  I have 2FA enabled it was not hacked or changed.  It simply will not recognize the pin.  The password is fine , 2FA is fine , it’s that pin.   
Since then I have opened a ticket without luck
Talked to a mod (no luck but they tried )
Sent him a PM on here (no reply ) 
I find it odd because after reading about his sight I am learning he was not paying investors for a long long time . And now that I have a several thousand dollar win , I coincidentally ran into trouble and he won’t reply to me either.    I have no reason to lie.  Personally I care but I don’t care because the initial deposit on this win was not big at all . But it was a once in a lifetime type of win that I really as a long time player am entitled too.    I wish I could post pics of conversations with the mods but I have no clue how to post a pic on this site forum.  As I see no direct upload link. 

Thanks

@Cnsba, there have been some complaints in the main Bitvest thread that their hot wallet might be empty empty, which is why withdrawals are currently unavailable. Perhaps that is the case with your account as well. As lightlord rarely posts on this forum, you are better off seeking support directly on their website. In the event that it does not yield results, you need to gather as much evidence as you can and write a proper scam accusation report.

It sounds plausible to me, as there have been many complaints about delays in withdrawals and an absolute lack of communication in the official Bitvest.io thread, but if you want your accusation to be credible you have to post what you said in the other thread:

any update regarding your issue? lightlord paid his participants yesterday, I'd assume his next step is to fill his casino's hot wallet in order for the gamblers on his casino to be able to withdraw.

and yeah, I agree with Poker Player. it would be best and beneficial for you to include the evidence you have.

This makes me wonder if any other users of Bitvest are having withdrawal issues that might be related to lightlord's alleged illness--or rather, whether the two issues are related.  If so, there's no way a gaming site should depend on a single person, but I didn't think Bitvest was run that way (not that I gave it much thought, not having used the site myself).

I would encourage any forum members who've had similar problems to post them in this section--with details--because we could be seeing the beginning of some massive drama if this isn't an isolated event.  While I hope that's not true, I'm very familiar with the problems lightlord's campaign participants have been having getting paid, and I wish they would all just drop Bitvest's signature.  

If anything could rouse him from his silence, that might be it.  As it stands, he's getting a lot of free advertising and there's now one complaint that a user's funds are frozen (though there's no evidence presented yet).

Edit:

Oh!  I must have been typing when you posted this, and I wasn't aware that he'd paid them.  That's a good sign, and I'm glad they got paid.  So if lightlord is back, I suspect OP's issue will be handled appropriately.

sure evidence is very needed when accusing someone. lgihtlord may have faults for delaying but it seems he has no intention of scamming since he paid bounty hunters still.

since lightlord paid his campaign participants the casino withdrawals must have also been paid. OP should really be providing more details and screenshots if possible. ruining casino reputation is very common when the competition is harsh.

The problems with the retreats go back a long way and have nothing to do with Lightlord's alleged illness (when I say alleged, it's not that I believe it or not, it's that I have no way of verifying it).

This is something that is commented on a lot in the bitvest thread. In the end people end up getting paid, but we are in the same situation as with the signature campaigns, people request a withdrawal and it can take weeks to get the money:



I would bet that that is how it is run

Yeah, I'm aware of that.  I somehow got involved in this whole drama because I was the only DT member at the time (in 2019) who tagged lightlord for the campaign mismanagement, so I've taken an interest whenever problems with him flare up--at least as far as the campaign payments go, and there haven't been any issues until recently that I know of (but I haven't exactly been monitoring the Bitvest campaign thread).

I wasn't aware of that fact, and if that's true--and I have no reason to doubt you--there's no excuse for it.  There are a lot of crypto casinos out there that function like clockwork if I'm not mistaken, and keeping a hot wallet filled should never be an issue for one that presumably takes in a lot of crypto.  That could be done with the right programming of the casino's software, no?

I wouldn't take the other side of that bet, sadly.  But I think that's the only explanation for why the hot wallet would continue to be empty.  Knowing that, why on earth would anyone continue to play on a site run like that?  Maybe some of Bitvest's clientele could answer that for me.

Since lightlord has paid the pending signature campaign participants , OP should be hopeful that his case will be taken care of shortly. Just give lightlord some time because he is a busy personality. I have not gone thoroughly in his accusations against bitvest but if he is right, he will be paid.

I don't know if any of them will come this thread, but I'll tell you what I think.

The problems are only with large withdrawals, and the complaints are buried in a thread of more than 200 pages in the gambling section, so they have appeared from time to time and end up hidden by other comments of people who write to meet their post quota. It is only now after the problem of the delay in the payment of the signature campaigns was added to the problem that people have started to tie things up. The first time I saw an accusation about this I didn't believe him because he was a member with negative trust, but after one accusation, and another, and another... added to the delay in the payment of the sig campaigns, you end up believing what they say.

The point is that many people don't know what's going on and all they know is that these are casinos that are very old, that are advertised on the forum and that Lightlord (until recently) had a good reputation. I guess now things are changing.

There are some past allegations also regarding hot wallets being empty most of the the time and players awaiting withdrawal from days like this which i  already (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364608.0) mentioned that the @OP is claiming Bitvest to be scam and seriously the withdrawal could not be delayed because the owner is not well and that seems to be weird reason as you are professionally dealing and that's not right.

As you have already mentioned some of the people claiming about the same hot wallets issue and i found out that's true as many are opening similar threads now about it and many are saying same withdrawal issues on Bitvest.First of all 10 weeks payment awaited and now the same types of problems on the casino.I also think lightlord is the only owner of the campaign and casino and that's why some issue have been raised.


Although signature campaign payments for round 137-146 have been paid off with bonuses to all the participants and hope they all are now relived but still some issues related to casino have come into notice now.

You as a newbie, can't post images on this forum.
Make screenshots of conversations and anything which you think can clearly prove your claims, then upload it on https://imgbb.com/ for example.
There you need to choose embed codes as BBcode full linked here's a picture of what it looks like.
some of the older members will already quote your post for better visibility.

https://i.ibb.co/ScmVbD9/image.png (https://ibb.co/sC1snpM)

You already have another post about Bitvest in the gambling section and there's an instruction on how to create the right format from one of the responses, I don't know if you read your own thread, it will be 24 hours, we're waiting for the proofs, these are allegations that you need to substantiate but hopefully, in the end, your issue will be resolve just like how Lightlord resolve the bounty payment.

I haven't played at Bitvest since last three years. The last time I played there was in 2018. So I'm not a client of bitvest now, but I would like to correct one thing here. This accusation hasn't reached to the empty hot wallet issue yet. There is a option to set transaction PIN in Bitvest. User can't request for withdrawal if he/she forget his transaction PIN.

https://i.imgur.com/CDkC34H.jpg

And OP said that
It means this investigation is going with a wrong concept. OP need a response from bitvest team/admin to reset his transaction PIN and request the withdrawal.

Anyway, it is always difficult to get response from bitvest admins. Hot wallet issue is a common thing in bitvest. A user lost big amount as his withdrawal was getting delayed for empty hot wallet in the last month
(I need admin of Bitvest to come here and explain! ( Not paying my winning) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5359651.0)).
‘lightlord’ should hire a support manager & financial admin to resolve this kind of issues quickly.

I’m going to revise this and say ok.   It’s not a “scam” per say.   I would call it a non payment of winnings.   
I can post attempts to contact the admins ,  but they never reply so I can’t post conversations
I can post dialogue with the super mods ,  but what will that prove.  The mods tried to reach out .
So a casino not helping a player withdrawl their winnings is a better word then scam.   What I can tell you is that my initial deposit was turned into about $4000 , and when I went to withdrawl the transaction pin was kicked back as invalid.  I opened tickets and got nothing , I emailed and got nothing , I pm’d on here and got nothing.  Why the pin didn’t work is beyond me , however it has ALWAYS worked.  On this particular large withdrawl it didn’t work and support is not replying.   They run a business and should have support to handle things.  There is nothing suspect about anything , I have the same wallets and recovery wallets I have always used.   So I will back off the scam accusation because I simply can’t post conversations that don’t exist.  I can show open tickets and sent emails.  At this point I care but it seems as if they don’t ,  call me a liar.  Whatever.  I have no reason to lie and yes I’m new because well I never had a problem before.   I never complained about fairness or unfairness or anything.    So again any help would be appreciated.  For bitvest it would just be good business. 

Ty

Here are screen caps , the best I can provide considering that they do not reply …
As I stated , it’s all one sided.  Not a word from a mod. 
Here you will see
My deposits made
My legit wins
My balance
My Unreplied too tickets
My convo with the mods and even they are baffled


https://imgur.com/a/X2Ox9VL

https://imgur.com/a/tBcg55O

https://imgur.com/a/q1c7DpV

https://imgur.com/a/xaPKWfD

https://imgur.com/a/Vy6Ms5l

There is nothing more I can post to prove they are not helping me.  If there is please tell me I will do it.  I cannot make conversation appear when he has not replied

I doubt you'll get a reply from PMing lightlord - based on my experience applying in PM on his eloncoin project and not getting any reply - it could be that he just doesn't check his PMs (I know I don't check mine or even the rest of the forum when I'm busy with my own site). So unfortunately I think the only thing you can do at this point is wait for a bunch of other players with delayed withdrawals to rally around this thread to get his attention and prompt an announcement like he did in relation to the bitvest signature campaign participants.

Quoting for the image so anyone can see them easier, but it shows as proxy invalid image. As I'm too lazy to figure out how imgur code should be arranged to display the image correctly, I saved the image and reposting with imgbb. the one I always use to upload images to this forum. No content was altered or changed other than shrinking the original dimension by half to not polluting the thread

https://i.ibb.co/bbrcSGD/LxYHsPW.jpg (https://ibb.co/Dr70xjT) https://i.ibb.co/xznzBNp/22hzGF8.jpg (https://ibb.co/JrYrG9f) https://i.ibb.co/Jxb8rnd/Xx4qclR.jpg (https://ibb.co/bHyYN13) https://i.ibb.co/V3wSXFZ/9g8GEMY.jpg (https://ibb.co/52K8qQy) https://i.ibb.co/wNjZ8WG/KiHcH5y.jpg (https://ibb.co/pv56NzV)

What the fuck? He's not even paying the mods on a site that rakes in profits??

That's outrageous!

It looks fucking weird.

It is not clear to me, first he says: "we aren't paid to be mods here" and in the following comment he says: "...we get paid by the site". I don't know if they are paid in another capacity and not as moderators. In any case it is strange.

I think it's a case of poorly worded sentence, what the mods tried to say was, "we aren't paid to be mod here, only wanted to help other players, without giving anyone any reason to question our loyalty --in other words, if their help/answer/solution is leaning toward benefiting the site-- because they think we are paid by the site, which we aren't"

I sent him one pm thanking him for being a part of the project and asking if we have good news coming that is our payout from Bitvest but I never received any reply and so are my friends who are part of his campaign, like the delay in the signature campaign this issue will create a big buzz, he cannot just resume the campaign without resolving this issue, or Bitvest and 777Coin will just be like 1XBIT, running a signature campaign with ongoing issues.

I have noticed you have not revised that though you have told you will revise on your two posts. You should post on scam accusation format. And if it is not been paid then it is scam too. Though I think you will get paid if you are legit. Lightlord's message response rate is too low. SO, wait and see whats going on.

We take account security seriously, so it can sometimes take a while to gather and verify information about an account to make sure resetting of PINs, passwords, etc. are only allowed for the rightful owner of the account. This case, in particular, has been resolved at this time.

Sometimes parts of this are done in the background, without immediately replying to the ticket to see if there has possibly been an account compromise, suspicious activity on the account, etc. We'd rather know what we may be dealing with before replying to the ticket just in case.

Updating.    100% resolved to satisfaction.  Thank you to everyone involved who helped.   
Esp Zodiac.


100% satisfied

good it has been solved.

Curious to know what was the issue.

Well, you guys have a good point here. But why it is hard to reach the admins and get quicker solution from Bitvest team? Doing a security check is acceptable for this kind of issues, but it doesn't mean you guys should stop communicating with the victims. Don't you think it's an annoying part for gamblers? Most of the gambler loss their temper when they face this annoying situation. OP wouldn't create this accusations here if Bitvest team has given him some quicker response through the support ticket.

And what was the reason for not making any response in that case?
I need admin of Bitvest to come here and explain! ( Not paying my winning) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5359651.0)
However, glad that this issue is resolved now. Expecting more better communication system from Bitvest team.

I'm glad to hear that this has been resolved positively. Still believe that lightlord had some real reasons for all the delays that have occurred recently.

there was also no need to delete the initial opening post, this can serve as a reference in the future if someone has a similar problem
OP, no more need to keep this thread open, add on the subject [SOLVED] and lock this topic. there is no need for spammers to further extend this thread.

This is what Cnsba wrote in their OP:

https://ninjastic.space/post/58190848


I feel this thread should be kept open a little longer to allow others with issues against these two to have a platform to be able to air their grievances and to compare against what has been said before without having to go over old ground in a new thread.

I agree, though it would be nice if members would post evidence if they've had a problem like the one you quoted.  There's no way of verifying whether that person is telling the truth, because he didn't provide any screenshots or TxIDs, etc.  But still, I'm inclined to believe him, as I've recently read similar complaints about Bitvest players not being able to withdraw their funds after running into an error that they'd never previously encountered (IIRC).

You might be willing to give lightlord the benefit of the doubt, but I'm certainly not.  This isn't the first time he's mismanaged his business or one of his campaigns, which tells me that it would be extremely risky to use Bitvest or to participate in a campaign that he's responsible for making payments for.  That's why my negative trust is going to stand, because I think the community needs to be warned that they might encounter the same problems that have happened in the past.

It's hard to participate in that campaign and their situation is questionable maybe they should find another better campaign than waiting for this to get fix, I don't know what happen to the owner since if he really care about his campaign he should act quickly regarding on the issues.

Also maybe he don't have enough funds and only wait for revenue to come then pay it to his participants that's why the delays on payments always come to their campaign.

What's wrong with you dude? This topic is not about the signature campaign, didn't you notice it? The issue experienced by OP is about pin code on the website and it has been resolved already 2 days before your post/reply. If you want to talk about the signature campaign, then go to the signature campaign thread.

I am curious to know why you are too much interested about the project though you are not the participant on any of his campaign? If anyone does not feel comfortable with the terms of the payment or the schedule of the payment then the person will not join or continue to participate on the campaign. We know the delay of the payment thats why always they have open position.

Well... it is really and the payment of the campaign participants of those campaigns.

As others have pointed out, the owner (lightlord) has stalled on making funds available moving forward after a ten week hiatus due to personal issues, so yes, it's relevant.


Although your question was asked to another person, I'll just go on the record here as I said in the other thread, I was once a participant of the 777coin Signature Campaign and when the payments stalled and went to fortnightly (even though they are advertised as weekly) I decided to leave for greener pastures.

Check his neutral trust, its shows that he deserved to be in the spam list.