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Hi guys

Usually Bitcoin significantly pulls up the alts at some key level. What do you think will be the level this time?

Would be curious to hear opinions!

Best, Peter

Not that much to think of because the trend hasn't changed and if bitcoin pulls above then many alts will also be the same. But as bitcoin's price go drops.
The altcoin season has actually happened if you're missing it. When bitcoin's price has skyrocketed, don't you see that many of the altcoins have pumped that skyrocket with bitcoin?

It depends on you because we know the market is volatile so you think you can follow your guts but instead, i highly recommend to try to learn with the use of technical analysis, market graphs and indicators this does not serve as a hundred per cent accurate but instead this giving you an idea when to buy and sell your bitcoins. Also i suggest to as possible avoid those FUD, group telling this coin will pump or dump its all about your decision at the end no one can blame on your investment.

OP is asking about the trends from here on. Yes, sure, there have been alt pumps but sporadic ones not as before when the market was in full swing.
to be fair, I don't think we'll see the same level of pump as we did a few months ago but I still believe that alts will start popping as soon as BTC reaches a new record high. In my mind that record is in the region of the previous one aka $65,000

I think as soon as people start to believe bitcoin will drop in in price,  people will start to move their funds to altcoin that are doing well and has great potential for growth!  These movement of fund may coincide with optimism and that could trigger altcoin rally. If bitcoin test another ATH,  the altcoin rally could huge!

I don't think it will depend much on price, but mostly depending on how the charts end up forming up. I personally don't think we're going to top immediately though, I'm going to guess that everyone's going to try to time the top and sell, then it's going to rise a bit more; proving them wrong.

His question is actually vague for me. If you're talking about alts in general, it is hard to predict as each alt has their own market trend. Not all alts are dependent on btc's market movement. But maybe for top alts, they usually follow the btc performance. Now, I don't know exactly which alts the OP are referring to. Better check also the progress of those coins he's holding to know if they can cope up with btc market. Alts can only keep up with btc trend if they are also doing good in terms of developments.

Almost all altcoins have been pumped when Bitcoin rallied some time ago. And for now it will be very difficult to redefine the altcoins at any point to show even greater improvement. Except just increasing without passing ATH. The start of the year with forecasts still hard to review, maybe we have a chance in winter. Even that is not entirely certain, because seeing the price of Bitcoin is correcting, so the possibility for altcoins the impact of the correction will be much more significant when you look at the visible parameters.

it's too hard to tell mate, because somehow without knowing alts is making the same pattern with bitcoin in the market. and indeed in the last couple of months they're almost the same such top crypto, but it suddenly changed when bitcoin received a lot of positive news and showing a strong sign of uptrend so probably that's reason alts were left behind.. I dont know maybe there are some factors as well or maybe some investors switch to bitcoin to make profits, if it's true for sure when bitcoin plunges they will be back to alts... By the way mate you check their performance im CMC if you want to don't miss alt season.

The alts have been quite slow despite bitcoin going back to $60k level. I also think that there will be some flash pump that will happen to the alts but not for all of them. It's just going to be a matter of time until we see that many of them will start to pump once again.
But as for the start of the altcoin season, it actually started already from the start of this year and it's not yet going to end soon. We'll all see that there's going to be the end of it once we get a hint from bitcoin.

If we look at the past we can see alts follow BTC after some time. Looking on that time frames we can expect it based on previous times.

All random and there's no such thing about knowing about reversal of trend because it could happen in a short span of time without knowing it or been aware because not all the time when bitcoin tends to dump or

decrease its price then it doesnt mean that funds or liquidity would switch up to altcoin but it most likely to happen because it could really make out those kind of switch ups.

Just be aware on how market reacts and place up your position which you do seem worth to do so.

That's what happens every time so I won't be counting on it this time. My play is to just continue buying altcoins that gets dumped just because BTC was pumping. I'll get this alts on both futures and spots and keep those positions open for as long as possible. It might be Bitcoin's time now but I'm certain that alts will have their own time and everyone is predicting this to be the last cycle so we might be in for an insane alt run.

normally when BTC price goes up, altcoins go up as well. we see more altcoins today are on the bottom for some time but it's still very uncertain when they will bloom once again. popular altcoins had gone up like SOL and DOT but not the rest. if BTC bull market will be over, the rest of the altcoins may also be over, sad to see altcoins we hold for some time have a value and then gone. very unforgiving market.

Its always the trend for altcoins and their prices are mostly dependent on bitcoin's performance. If we can witness a new ATH this year for bitcoin, the bull run will also be visible in altcoins. Not really sure what price for bitcoin does altcoins season might start but one thing i am certain, if bitcoin reaches its new ATH this year, ethereum will definitely reach its own ATH too. And everything good will follow. Bitcoin will definitely be bullish along with altcoins season too. Just like if bitcoin drops, the whole altcoins will experience dumping of prices too.

I am feeling surely we are going to have new ATH for bitcoin in this month or surely in November because sentiments are very positive for this right now just because of this in next few days we can watch some good way in altcoins as well even no one can give perfect prediction about this bitcoin and altcoins but still as we have recent few months its good resistance above $50K now having good stay at $60K.

Altcoins mostly have good impact of bitcoin rise, but they will take sometime in near future we can say we will have very good rise in few altcoins which are already in good use case and having good and strong communities.

For what I have seen in the market in the past, at the beginning of the bull run people begin to pull out the money they have invested in altcoins when bitcoin is going up in value, this increases its dominance and makes the price to go up even higher, but then a resistance point is reached and that is when we see the price becoming relatively stable, and in order to multiply their profits even further those investors that sold their altcoins for cheap begin to buy them again creating an altcoin season in the process, however it is impossible to know at which level this will happen, so it is better to watch the market and see when it does what I am describing.

Of course bitcoin and altcoins have their own season respectively. And its mostly bitcoin who drives along so that altcoins too will also experience its altcoins season next to bitcoin's bull run. But isn't it the trend right now that once bitcoin will have its bull run, altcoins too at the same time will probably experience altcoins season too? After all, bitcoin always takes the lead and whatever positive reaction that bitcoin gets, altcoins too will be significantly affected.

Looks like you are a little late for the party. Meaningful altcoins such as Ethereum, BNB, Link, Polkadot etc already pump and even achieved all-time highs. During the period of DeFi hype is would have been the best period to prepare for altcoin season.

Hi Peter, I think you didn't closely monitor the crypto market since this year.  
Maybe have you notice that when the Bitcoin price goes up all altcoins prices are pumped too.  I didn't know if there's an altcoin season but I think usually it depends on the Bitcoin price, all the market price movement depends on the Bitcoin price.

I think you already found the answer to your question.  Altcoins pump altogether with Bitcoin or it might be there will be an altcoin season and nobody knows when it will be.

I would use Bitcoin dominance instead of price to guide this turnaround.

Bitcoin dominance is your friend here. Observing carefully how Bitcoin dominance move is extremely good to spot when will the alt season.
Look at these days, Bitcoin is pumping too hard but most altcoins are not, that's the power of Bitcoin when pumping sometimes.
Another scenario to observe is when,
Bitcoin pump = alts pump (or Bitcoin pump = alts dump)
Bitcoin sideways = alts dump
Bitcoin dump = alts dump

No one can tell the actual level at which Bitcoin pulls up altcoins price but the good use case altcoin will certainly gain a new ATH price. However, there are certain mistakes some people make on this forum about altcoin season which always happens after the huge market correction and it is the season where the altcoin market experiences an increase in price while Bitcoin will be excluded.

That's also my point. There's no need to identify what price of bitcoin will altseason start because its very obvious that when bitcoin is bullish, all existing potential altcoins will definitely be in the same situation too. And once bitcoin price drops, expect that there will be a massive price drop in the whole crypto market. This is the most common scenario that happens in the market but maybe this time might be different. So let's just wait and see. The  market becomes too unpredictable when we least expect it.

Its unknown because if all people do find out on when it would happen then you do really think that this can be called a market? Not for sure because this market had been unpredictable ever since and there's no way
for you to catch up for such exact time when flippening happens or simply the market trend change.This is why people do really having this kind of main question on when it would happen?
No one ever knows because you would really be that rich if you do know this very basic principle of market change.

I would say we are not even above ATH right now, so there is no need to talk about a potential of alt season just yet. Last time we had a huge alt season was when we broke over 40k-50k+ prices, and that means we moved from 10k to 40k+ before we had any significant alt season. Sure the prices of altcoins increased because bitcoins dollar value increased as well, ETH moved from 150 dollars to 1500 dollars without the altseason, but with it the price went to 4k+ prices as well while bitcoin moved only slightly.

This is why I believe that bitcoin needs to be going way higher, like at least 80k+ before we could see another alt season, probably even more like 100k. Many people are speculating about reaching 100k by the times of Christmas hence we could expect altcoins to be following bitcoin's bull run by that period of times.

This is the usual trend, altcoins follow the footsteps of Bitcoin and if we are able to do this, I’ll be more happy that i bought a lot of good altcoins during the downtrend. Just don’t feel FOMO for now if you are planning to buy, better to waif for the buy signal because there’s still a chance for correction if Bitcoin failed to make ATH.

Bitcoin is definitely the source of everything in crypto. Whenever its bullish, the crypto market will be bullish too, unless if you are investing in those dead coins, they will never have chances to be bullish again. And when bitcoin is bearish, you'll witness the whole market too is also dumping. So altseason will be more visible only if bitcoin has reached its new all time high, then there's ethereum following bitcoin's path, and then after that altcoins season will have more chances to happen too. Its the trend in crypto now, so don't underestimate what bitcoin can do.

Usually. But not anymore.
I have seen a lot of altcoins being dumped over the past year even if Bitcoin is going up. It's not the same market anymore like what we had before.
It's almost like the market of the last decade where Bitcoin goes up and altcoins are going down. So, if I were you I would not expect anything from altcoins whenever Bitcoin is in a bull run. That way you might avoid getting rekt and save yourself some dollars in the process.

I think this was the case in the previous alts pump, btc dominance was at a very low level which gives room for alts to pump, perhaps this is what will play out if at all we are to witness another alts rally, right btc dominance is a bit high (47.6% according to coinmarketcap) reason why alts are not in sync with btc price movement.

No one could tel this exactly, still bitcoin is already increasing and reached a new ATH market price, so you should start your Hodl by now and keep holding until that time comes. If you are waiting for someone to tell which price bitcoin is going to reach before altcoins start pumping, then you’re just going to be wasting your time. Altcoins are already making a move and increasing value already. Look at the altcoins like Ethereum and the rest of them and how much they have increased in value today. So, you don’t need anyone to tell you, you should better start making a move right now.

Bitcoin alt season starts when bitcoin price move in a range and dominance goes down. Then alt season starts. Bitcoin price is near to 70000$ which is a ATH price of bitcoin. So, when price gets stable at this price then alt coins start booming. First, the most market capitalization coins boom and them others. And alt coins season will start soon. So, get ready your funds to earn money through this alt season.

The period is getting closer if you ask me. I believe that November will be the period where we are going to see something that would be closer to alt season and hopefully that is when we are going to see something like 5k+ ethereum and 1k+ bnb and so forth. When that happens unless you are holding something horrible then we are all going to make a good profit.

The bad part is that we are going to see useless and horrible coins go up as well during that period and people will get hyped about them and they are going to lose money on the bad periods as well because they invested into horrible coins that did great during alt season. Just because a coin went up during the good days doesn't mean that they will not crash harder than others during bad periods neither. I have seen too many of this happen at the period during early 2021 and then suck during second period. Be careful even during the good periods so that you could keep your profit during bad periods.

Do you guys still believe that if Bitcoin is down altcoins will pump? That was a long time ago when something like that happens but not today. Usually it follows when Bitcoin is in continuous pump but either way it doesn't matter since they were just driven by either pump/dump or hype so no one could actually tell.

Your best shot is to look at the price of Bitcoin and it would basically tell you that it's an alt season but no one could actually tell the price. We are all just speculators and speculating.

This year already  bitcoin pumped. Bitcoin price more and more increase this year.Few year ago bitcoin price was too much low but last 2-3years bitcoin price more increase and Altcoin price more increase.i Think bitcoin price wil be more in this year.I Think when bitcoin will be bullish then others coin will be same too.

I think once price get's pumped until 75k is when btc will show a little correction and when btc stabilizes after that correction will be the time when alts boom one by one, this could take a couple of weeks after the btc has reached the highest point it is going to go in this bull run, I think currently alts can bleed if btc goes even higher and then bounces back lower because alts might not go higher along with btc but will definitely come down with btc whenever it does comes down. But currently everyone should only be in btc.

Today the higher price of Bitcoin is at $66,930.39 based on the CMC data.
Actually, the altcoin is started to rise up. But it is still not really high.
Maybe when Bitcoin has more than $70K?
Or when the BTC price has been at the highest price and it being sideways at that rate. Altcoin seasons may be upcoming. I really expect that it may happen in November or December.

Correction is inevitable because we cant just see prices soaring up high like forever which it is really just normal that we would really be having these pullbacks but somehow if we do see some strong support then we wont really be dipping that badly.

For now its really hard to know on what would happen next and this had been always like this be eversince.For sure there would really be that time of alt season but those are the times
on where bitcoin had some deep correction or something flippening happen.

You would only say when it do already happen but saying before is an impossible thing.

Well that is right, --I think the altcoins season goes the same with the bitcoin bull run. Just ask this question, --is the altcoin season is not yet come?
Have you not enjoyed the recent pump of BNB? ETH, ADA, and SOLANA?
I think there are a few holders that have made a profit by this time and I think there are more still holding because of hoping that they will still earn and bitcoin will pump more within this year. The most awaiting is here, we have a new ATH now and it could be there is more and the $75k will easy to reach out to.

I remember few months ago where bitcoin's market price struggling on a strong resistance between $30k-$45k some or many of the altcoins are able to pump even if there's a little correction on bitcoin's price. SO thinking at what bitcoin price does altseason start will not necessarily a basis anymore because the market today I think made a little segue way compared to what we have used that when bitcoin price pump the altcoin's will pump too.
However, there's still a mark that bitcoin's price movement still greatly affect altcoin's market.

This is the correct way to go about it, if someone wants to take advantage of the exchange rates of altcoins to get more bitcoin in return then the bitcoin dominance is the chart they should watch, when the bitcoin dominance is high then it is a good idea to hold bitcoin and just hold it, however whenever a sudden drop happens then that could be a sign of an altcoin season and this means it is time to move to altcoins hoping they pump faster than bitcoin so after some months you can once again go back to bitcoin but you can now buy a lot more than what you originally had.

That's a thing you can't determine accurately or even at close. As always, altcoin's behavior varies whatever the bitcoin trend is. Try to study the market history where most altcoins are reacting to either bitcoin dominance or during a bear market.

Past performance can't guarantee future results but it's a better reference compared to nothing. From there, you can now create your own speculation.

In my humble opinion, when Bitcoin price can surpass $70k, there will be huge hype in crypto market. I guess most people will be optimistic that the price of Bitcoin to go to $100k if it can prove to break $70k. It is probably the momentum of altcoins to skyrocket because many people may follow FOMO. There will be a significant increase in demands, people don't want to miss the chance to buy before the final huge bullish.

I don't think it will depend on price, it depends on how market or charts end up forming up. Normally when Bitcoin price goes up, altcoins will goes up as well. If we look at the past, we can see alts follow BTC after some time. But, we can't predict what will going to happen in the future or else the next day, all we have to do is to stay updated and learn for all your experiences.

This is a type of thing that happens randomly, there is nothing like a particular price when bitcoin will pull up altcoins, nah there is nothing like that. During the last trend when bitcoin first reached $60,000, altcoins like Ethereum also increased in price and a lot of them reached their new all time high.

The same thing also repeated recently that bitcoin started being bullish, Ethereum increased and crossed $4000 again and some other coins also increased in price. You can’t tell when it happens, it’s just random thing, but it happens every time that bitcoin is increasing in price, altcoins that their prices correlates with bitcoin will also increase.

Yh, after BTC alts have had the history to pump like mad. As for when we may start seeing this, I think there's two possible scenarios 1) have BTC stabilise around a central price or 2) have it pump to ATH and stay there for sometime.

To me it feels like a 65K is a good region for this to happen.

Its still following the same pattern as before. When bitcoin is almost reaching its new heights, ethereum too is seen to have a good price increase pushing through to its new ATH. And once they're both bullish, most of the altcoins will start gaining positive price increase too that may lead to their altcoins season once there is no any negative reactions from the market.

I think its not really on the price that bitcoin start influencing altcoins. Regardless of the price, as long as we start seeing bitcoin becoming bullish, then it all follows that altcoins too will be hyped by bitcoin. Only then we can witness altcoins season is about to start.

I think most altcoin are trading at their all time high,  it is important to understand that altcoin have rose tremendiously since the beginning of the year.  We might see new ATH which I believe will not be far from previous one,  but to think altcoin will record 1000% rise again this year will not be realistic!

Two day ago Bitcoin already create a new all time high and crossed his previous all time high price.
This alt season we can expect something big in Bitcoin price, this altseason bitcoin will $80k-100k, it is not my own opinion, it is experts opinion.       

I think the current trend is favoring both bitcoin and the altcoins. Bitcoin just hit an ATH of $67k and dropped to $60k.
The altcoins have also gained a little traction when bitcoin started to drop and I can see that many altcoins have pumped and settled on to a specific price.
The same cycle might repeat again now. So may be this season is not only for bitcoin but altcoins as well.
We have seen many times that bitcoin and altcoins grow together and this might be one similar trend.

Yes I think alts will go up as soon as bitcoin stables at one point. Right now bitcoin is not stabling at one place, so right now I don't think there is going to be such a big rally of alts. But we can predict after 15th of November that time will be good for Alt and will make a lot of people rich in that rally. Shiba is one of these exceptions that is constantly rising, that too because of a rumor that it will be the first meme coin to be listed in Robinhood. Means that Shiba is risen up because of a news.

Its just the similar trend we have before and i think history might always repeat itself. Now that bitcoin is in a high surge, we can see that most of the potential altcoins too are also in good shape. Even meme coins are also doing good as long as they are hyped, and once the hype is over, its value will certainly return to its low value.

However, when we see bitcoin experienced its price drops, eventually altcoins follow the same path. So maybe with today's trend, both bitcoin and altcoins are having a good collaboration.

Repeated trends may occur, because everything has been arranged in such a way by groups of whales. With bitcoin prices continuing to soar and being able to reach new ATH, of course some altcoins will follow suit, but when single bitcoin rallies, altcoins will experience a decline.

The exact time when the alt season will occur is when the bitcoin price is sideways, and this is a golden opportunity for altcoins to reach their highest prices.

This is pretty much the pattern that we see repeating itself over and over again, the first one to pump is bitcoin but then some kind of limit is reached and then investors move their money to other important coins like ethereum and the binance coin, then after those coins also reach a limit to their growth that is when people begin to concentrate in lesser known altcoins, and when that happens you know we are close to the end of the bull run as now the market is running on hype alone and that cannot be maintained for long.

I thought the moment everyone is talking of a bullish bitcoin then automatically 85% of altcoins usually follow this trend to ride the wave of bullishness and not really tied to specific price of BTC as news could also trigger the price move and if I can recall when we where below $60k we all were waiting for the crossover and once this happened it was a bull run for most if not went bullish but the last couple of hours price looks to have gone done slightly which shows we might be going down:(

Who's the expert that have said that?

It's unknown whether bitcoin will be reaching $80k-$100k very soon and it's also unknown if there will be the altcoin season upon reaching those prices.

The common thing about bitcoin and alts is that whenever bitcoin reaches high prices, the altcoin market is on high too.

Bitcoin price does not matter at all if we talk about alt season.
Btc needs to stay stable or correct down a bit, but still stabilize. When btc stabilizes, it opens a chance for alts to grow in value to pull down btc's dominance. Then if btc begins its uptrend again, alts bleed or stay strong and wait for the next opportunity. If btc breaks a new ath, it does not guarantee an altseason because all the funds are in btc at that moment, why would investors go for something else.

It is a very very very important thing to learn about where bitcoin will stop. If we know this then we can make stuff based on that as well, but we do not know when exactly it will stop. This is why we end up with just guessing what it will do. If we can calculate it, and know when it will stop, then not only we will profit from buying now and selling at the top, but we will also buy alts that will go up during altseason and make even more during that period on top of that money we made.

It is really something that we should be looking for, it is definitely something that end up knowing means money. I do not know what will happen but I know that it will definitely be something that is profitable if you can hit the nail on the head. In any case, at least we know how things work and that is good enough for me, I will be on the lookout and hope that I get it right.

according to many many speculation , probably this quarter will be the bitcoin time, which it can goes up to 165-210k , and probably alt going crazy on late december or january, btw i have no clue about trigger price for it.

Altseason is already ongoing.  Ethereum is more than $ 4k, BNB is $ 480. However, if the price of Bitcoin crosses $80k, then I think the next altseason will start.  However I think Bitcoin will not exceed $70,000. This is my personal opinion. Let's see what will happen in the near future.

The answer is we don’t know, and I am not definitely sure if the growth of ETH, BNB, etc., are already telling us that this could be the start. However, there’s no accurate price for Bitcoin in order for the altcoin season to begin. The cryptocurrency market is unpredictable and there’s no way we could tell on when the altseason really starts.

I think when the price of bitcoin can be stable as it is today, it is possible that the altcoin season will come. especially when we are faced with big news that can support the growth of cryptocurrencies, so that it can influence the minds of investors to re-enter the market and choose potential altcoins. usually it will be preceded by eth at first, but that's an uncertain thing

but not completely. some altcoins are still not exploding, because bitcoin is still not sideways. Bitcoin is still unstable so the path for altcoins to reach the full altseason is still blocked. Some of the coins that keep showing ATH are SOLANA and those are some of my favorite coins.

The exact price is not really know, but I hope that it happens very soon. I can't wait for it to happen because right now I am getting to a level where bitcoin became 50%+ of my portfolio even though it was a lot less when I rearranged it, it was 80% when I first started and 20% was ETH and I had nothing else, that was the first time I built this portfolio again, but now I have as much as technically 20 but seriously 10-11 of them right now, which means that there is a good chance they could make me a lot more richer.

I really want to get richer not just because of richness sake, but I want to do another business with it, tried before and failed but I think I learned from my mistakes and the sooner alt season comes then the quicker I could start the business.

Indeed, right, we don't know the exact date and what are the hints to say that the pumped will come out solidly, Bitcoin still on its way to continue showing the bull market. It's nice to see that more people are now taking their interest and start investing in this market. Better to invest after you fully understand the market. Follow those projects that you are eyeing to invest your money. It will help you a lot.

Waiting for some sign is good, but it will also delay your participation. Investing is more about trusting your instinct and your good judgements.

This are big cap coins that naturally are first to catch the waves of the altcoins season before other low cap coins joins. Coins like BNB has other motivation that makes it pumps besides been an altcoin season. They have launchpad that make people fomo when ever they're launching one and they just concluding ones few days again.

Before the launchpad ended, BNB was trading around $500+ then coincidentally they just did their quarterly burn of millions of dollars in BNB, all this are contributing factor. Bitcoin isn't stopping at $70k as you presume, we're heading to $100k and this is happening before the end of year.

The first US ETF was launched few weeks back, everything is just pointing to a bullish month ahead. What's holding altcoins back now is Bitcoin isn't stable yet, once Bitcoin stabilized then the altcoins will kick in.

It depends on your style of investing, some decide to use their instincts but many instead decide to look at the long term prospects of a market and prefer to enter way before it explodes, this is what institutional investors did, they bought bitcoin when its price was still accessible and now they have multiplied their money easily and they have the potential to get huge profits as the market keeps growing while the average investor is still thinking about whether or not it is a good idea to invest in bitcoin, and each day they delay this decision is another opportunity they are wasting of investing in the best asset we have in this market.

Without much consideration or thoughts, I think I have a good feeling or would wrap my predictions around $100k. It would be a significant value in the minds 9f not only bitcoin and bitcoiners. This would in turn, create a sentiments in the minds of potential investors as it offers opportunities with low price. It won't be easy trading this market as, the volatility would be much and there would be a lot of coin pumps in the market. This would push a lot of investors towards this angle and so also would the scam coins be released on a rapid into the market.

We wont really able to determine if its already altcoin season or not because we could only know if its already happening but before that then theres no

way you could able to predict on when it would happen.We've seen that trend do changes in between Bitcoin and altcoin which means that
it wont really correlate from time to time.

This is why setting up yourself or positioning will really vary on someones risk taking factor and the rest will be basing on their intuition
and some basis.

I don't think it will mostly depend on price for us to tell that it is already the altcoin season. No one could tell if when is the start. But for me, as long as people starts believe in it and give their trust then it will be totally the start. Now, the price of bitcoin changes quite often, and it will be quite difficult to predict, so it means it won't really correlate from time to time. But, you must also expect the risk on it and be patient, knowledge also is very important.

do not predict something based on a hunch without doing technical analysis. premonitions will not yield any results. The current market sentiment is very strong, Bitcoin is still not stable, but altcoins are currently starting to make a recovery even though it is still hindered by the unstable bitcoin price. bitcoin price at $100k is not a guarantee that the altseason will happen, even at the current price it can happen, depending on bitcoin sideway or not.

Considering it had a drop recently, I believe that alt season is not coming just yet. We are in a situation where the alt season will only have to come after the big peak happens and we haven't seen that yet. I hope to see higher prices on bitcoin and that means it will need to recover and go to high prices.

This is why I believe that we should not expect any type of alt season just yet, we need to make sure that we are doing fine with bitcoin first. For a few more months I am not guessing bitcoin will reach the peak yet, it will go up a lot but not peak, it will continue to go up for the next two months. This is why we will have to wait at least until 2022 for us to see the alt season.

Alts season will come when Bitcoin will also in bullish but at this moment that Bitcoin is on the decline, this seems impossible. It gives us no option but to wait, it surely has come but the problem is we don't know when and we sometimes get bored and tired of waiting.

That is why we have to invest those coins that could have the potential for long-term, not those who come in hypes. And using TA before buying is a big help to determine what coin is likely to grow 2-3 years from now.

Concerning about the altseason, I don't think it will be determined by the bitcoin price for this year. This year unlike previous years have been different with the halving. For 2017 the altcoins rally was after the bitcoin bull had stopped then Ethereum began a rally that ursherd altcoins into the season but this time, I think Ethereum has done better move with binance and few others so maybe it may be an independent run based on the utility of the coin or it can come after the end of this year like speculators analyse bitcoin price to bear after this year.

Taking into account the markets are made by people I do not see anything wrong with taking into consideration what the market participants are anticipating and what do we think their actions will be at the time, technical analysis is nothing more but a tool to predict what the market will do, and the psychology of the market participants can be another useful tool, after all it is obvious that most of those people are expecting bitcoin to go above 100k, and once it does most likely we will enter a massive FOMO which will make altcoins to go up in price as well.

From my experience in 2017 when BTC started its bullish trend, all altcoins started to soar. The behavior of BTC for now for many is bullish, but it is not a guarantee of entering the definitive bullish trend, it means that there are still many corrections, many movements, stabilizations and rallies, at the time of BTC rise, the altcoins begin to rise and they do not fall in price so the BTC suffers corrections, for me this is the easiest way to realize the altseason, as well as reviewing the millionaire BTC portfolios. There are many false positives, some claim that we are already in that season and there is still a long way to go, it is necessary to emphasize that all altcoins depend directly or indirectly on BTC.

Yes, it has changes a lot of the coins behavior whether they are following the bitcoin, because whenever it rises the same criteria is following the other coins too. So, following so must change the coins price and their achieved target is also not that much predictable, if you need to get profit must study the coin own history.

Exactly, alternative coins normally follow the finger prints of bitcoin, actually the movement of bitcoin attracts all their price value circles of other coins, and I'm saying that without bitcoin increment I don't think that ATH will gain it's volatility.

very true that predictions without analysis are not very good but surely the price of bitcoin will go to $100k. besides that if we look at the history of bitcoin prices, when bitcoin is bullish, altcoins will automatically follow, just look at last October there were a lot of altcoins that went bullish when bitcoin was bullish.

we have to look at the situation, bitcoin is currently rather difficult to predict precisely, because its movement is not really stable, it is easy to change quickly either increasing or decreasing. so that in the end it can at least influence the movement of altcoins, although there are still ones that can move and reach ATH where the bitcoin situation is actually going down. but because the movement of bitcoin is rapidly changing, altcoins are also sometimes carried away with the movement of bitcoin.

although true, should not predict by hunch and I agree with you. but with the current situation happening with bitcoin, analysis is also difficult to predict accurately,
so it is natural that many analyzes cannot be precise.
but while overall that they believe bitcoin will increase to $100K and should have an effect on altcoin movement as well, it's rare that bitcoin's rise isn't accompanied by altcoins.

A good prediction, of course, with a thorough analysis is clearly very necessary, at least it can be close to the events that will occur. but now bitcoin is always making moves that are out of the ordinary. so that the analysis also has an impact and influence. less likely to be a guarantee of its accuracy, but it certainly won't stray far from reality.

if bitcoin will increase until it reaches $100K it will certainly affect altcoins. it is rare that a high increase is not accompanied by a movement from an altcoin, if the value of the increase is not high it is very likely that the altcoin does not participate. if now bitcoin is at $60K-$62K, so there will be a 50% increase from its present value so that it becomes $100K and that is clearly a high value.

For me if the Bitcoin breaks above $65,000 the altcoins will be drag upwards and probably could be the start of the altseason but right now there's a lot of re-test that is happening in the current resistance of the Bitcoin in no time the price will breakout so let's keep our eyes sharp and ears for news the breakout will happen in no time.

Indeed. As what i observe, when bitcoin increases it's price other coins follows, if bitcoin dump, other coins also have a low price. So, I think after bitcoin increases it's price, altcoins also follows which means it will be the start of altcoins season. But, concerning about the altseason, I don't think it will be determined by the bitcoin price for this year. However, we could predict what will happen, so we must be updated always and observe the flow.

Altcoin season starts, when Bitcoin price pumps but at this time most of the altcoins dump. But when Bitcoin price stable, and move in a range of price then money flows from bitcoin to altcoins and altcoins booms. Price of Bitcoin does not matters. Altcoins season is very near . Now Bitcoin price is moving near 68000$.

Some altocoins goes up with Bitcoin movement and some drops but altocoins season has begin. Many altocoins are almost at their bottom and when BTC price will be stable means money not going in Bitcoin. These money will definitely goes in altocoins and price will going to pump. Taking a correction is due in Bitcoin and this will going to happen at some point of time so entry in altocoins will be go to Profit.

Just look out at bitcoins dominance in the market. Once it stabilised, alts will surely pump up given that bitcoin goes sideways only and no fud were spread. Many moon projects will surely go to moon these days specially the Play-to-earn ones and not the meme coins. In my own analysis, it will happen mid november to early december.

An increase in the price of bitcoin will not be enough to say that the altcoin season has begun. Because the altcoin season can also be when the BTC price goes down. Only when the price of altcoins increases not only in relation to the dollar, but also in relation to bitcoin, it can be argued that the altcoin season has begun.

My criteria is a bit exaggerated because many will say that things are not like that, but I think that the altseason will start the moment that BTC has a price of $ 100k, and the reason is simple, many are waiting for the price to $ 100k to sell , but when those massive dumps occur, only those who really want to see BTC very high will remain and the price will begin to rise, at that moment is when the true uptrend corresponding to this cycle will begin for btc, and it is clear and proven that When the millionaire wallets are above 70%, it is a way to obtain ceunta, and from there the altcoins will begin their bullish trend cycle and the entire market will turn green.

Basically, I know Bitcoin does the pulling up of alts stuff when it has exausted its strength of pushing up in price. If I judge by experience, the exchange of baton from Bitcoin to alts is likely going to happen in the first quarters of 2022. Bitcoin may likely see a french ATH before the end of Dec 2021 and then begin to dip into 2022.

Well, no one knows what's gonna happen next. At the moment, it seems like Bitcoin would continue on its upwards path till it gets to $100K or close to it if not more. Until that's done, I don't think we would see any real altseason just a couple of alts pumping here and there. Altseason mostly happen whenever bitcoin has cool off and it doesn't seem to be cooling off any moment from now.

At times there happens massive bitcoin sell off in exchange for altcoins. So, it is quite tricky to mention the price around which the altseason begin. With bitcoin the market trend varies all of the sudden, and right now the market is with fluctuation but no big money is getting moved towards altcoins. Whales try to manipulate the market and by the time we can experience some crash happening around and bullish trend with altcoins.

Five days ago bitcoin already create his all time high price and now bitcoin 7% dump from his all time high price. Also we can see that alt season has already moved from his old price. Again when bitcoin will create  his all time and will stable then all altcoin will pump. 

The crashed is ongoing right now, either it will bounce back immediately or weak holders will ride and create massive fall. It's really hard to assess if there are investors who are switching to another alt but analysing the market. We don't see any movement that's not circling around Bitcoin. The whole market is still moving the same where Bitcoin is heading.

For supporters, this is the time to keep buying and storing whatever asset you wanted to support. The timing is good when selling pressure is really high.

If you don't have enough patience, best not to touch anything, keep observing the direction is unknown better to hold your fiat and decide when you are ready to enough. 8)

Oh well, that's already the norm in this market, after reaching a new all time high, it's bound to crash. However, the speed of the crash today? I would say we are caught off guard. So I'm not sure at what price does bitcoin really need to reach before alt season starts.

Maybe there are already some alts that reaches their new all time high without any influence from bitcoin itself. Or maybe the alt coins market is really changing, as it no longer depends on bitcoin price before making their own price movement.

We cannot predict on what exact price of Bitcoin does the altcoin season would actually begin. The market is very unpredictable and we don’t know when will the price go down or up without warning.

Yes, it's the typical pattern of the market. Most of the altcoins are also following bitcoin whenever it goes on high, they're also pumping.
It is the reason why there are many meme coins that are also becoming popular and if it's not for bitcoin, they won't be reaching certain highs that many are enjoying right now.

I would say the amount of "crash" makes it a correction and not a crash. I get that it dropped a bit and that's why people are upset over the price drop but in order to call it a crash I would say it has to drop a lot more. Alts are doing not bad, ETH reached the ATH price recently, it is still quite high even though it dropped as well but that was good enough.

I would say that ATH doesn't happen during the alt season, it happens during btc season, then alt season starts when btc stops going super high. I am not sure if btc already stopped, it looks like it is doing great and I believe that it will probably do a lot better in the future as well, then it will stop and we will have alt season finally.

I think the price of altcoins does not always depend on the price of altcoins, because there are a lot of projects that are not paired with bitcoins, but based on their technological effectiveness, they have established themselves in the market with high capitalization and price increases for them regardless of the price of bitcoin, of course, the price tag of bitcoin also affects altcoins, but this is not always the case.

Indeed, although many people have demonstrated the interaction between bitcoin and altcoins, most of them have not identified the clear rules, all are just vague concepts and use personal feelings and experiences to make rough judgments about altcoin season, perhaps from these impromptu gestures and actions we can tacitly understand that the market is operating unscrupulously. Sometimes bitcoin can be a point to infer the altcoin season but sometimes bitcoin plays no role in this position, stubbornness is the rule of victory but there will be no harbinger of time

People could argue over when it will start, or you could start investing now before it starts. It is not right now I can tell you that much, I think 10k ethereum will be guaranteed when there is an alt season, and that is when you know it already started and even maybe ending. I am not saying that it will happen soon or saying it won't happen or saying it will happen years later.

I am not giving a date, all I am saying is that it is not right now, and that means if you invest right now then you are going to make a profit. This is why you should invest into good and valuable crypto currencies right now and wait for them to have the alt season, it will go up a lot when that happens.

If it's not for Bitcoin mostly, there's nothing will happen to the majorities of every alts inside the market, Bitcoin is the Sparkplug to engine up the season, once Bitcoin experienced strong bull the market also gain that attention, if not all, but most of those solid projects are also pumping. We can't tell when there's no way that it can foretell accurately, everything are just assumptions and self opinions.

Currently, the price is declining, for those who still have good spare investing at this point might give them opportunities to do
some sort of trades, usually there's a pump that takes place each time the market experienced some hard correction.

yes we can't take the guideline of Bitcoin price for the altseason that is about to start, now we can only see that bitcoin price often fluctuates in exchanges.
yes you are right, indeed we cannot be 100% sure of technical analysis of market charts because the ups and downs of Bitcoin prices depend on buyers and sellers, but at least we can choose the right time to buy bitcoin or sell bitcoin from the results of technical analysis of market charts.

We don’t know when it’s going to be, even bitcoin has been struggling around $58k levels and we don’t know whether it will get pass $70k level before the year is over. Most of the altcoins hasn’t been doing well at all and they are finding it difficult to get to the point of staying at half of their ATH price. So we can’t tell at all what and when it’s going to be. Maybe the month of December will bring about some changes in the market? We just can’t even tell. I was looking forward to Bitcoin crossing seventy thousand dollars ($70,000) but that wasn’t achieved. A lot of altcoins has even been going down.

In my view, there will be a tremendous frenzy in the cryptocurrency market when Bitcoin's price can cross $70k. If Bitcoin can prove to breach the $70k barrier, I imagine the majority of people will be confident that its price will rise to $100k. Since many individuals might follow FOMO, altcoin momentum is likely to soar. Demand will rise significantly since consumers don't want to miss the opportunity to purchase before the final big rally.

I think that the price of bitcoin and its price will not increase in the next year, if the market condition is going to be very bad, if the price of bitcoin increases, then it will be seen that all the result coins are there, but their prices will increase suddenly, and if the price of bitcoin is, then everyone's price.  will be

It won't depend on price, in my viewpoint it will depend on how the market or charts ultimately develop. Typically, cryptocurrencies will increase in value along with Bitcoin. If we look at the past, we can see that after some time, alts follow BTC. But since we cannot know what will occur tomorrow or the day after, all we can do is stay informed and gain knowledge from our experiences.

It's not about the price at all, if the market graph having significantly huge pump or crypto gets big news in just matter of days on almost all cryptocurrencies then for sure we are having a crypto season starting at that time. Just imagine if the price just rises about $100 on Bitcoin but we would have already in altseason already just because the requirements I just said earlier is met at that day.

It’s very common one,people who start to inverse in altcoin other then bitcoin was the first reason.The Ethereum was the potential coin as like bitcoin was launched.Then the blockchain technology was improved all over the world.The data science was the current reason for the increase in investors in crypto currency for now.

I think that whenever bitcoin become stable then alt coin will also become grand but that time when the bitcoin is in unfriendly in worth so it is not easy for altseason to initiate because extreme level of inconstancy occurs these days and altseason is concurrent with bitcoin. Both goes ups and downs constantly with proportionate to one another.

we still seem a long way from the altcoin pump season. we can see some hype created in the market. NFT, DEFI, and some projects that create new hype like Solana in the past.
it doesn't keep the market strong for long. even when the hype is over we can see a huge dump happening in the market. we may have seen almost all altcoins make the market green. but the current market situation is different. Bitcoin is still very dominant. if there is an increase I guess it's not an altcoin season. it is purely from the market pumping certain coins.

It is still far from being an altcoin season because we are in a prolonged bear market it is difficult to determine when it will happen like in 2021 there will be a lot of pumping and hype because in that year BTC became ATH, now that it has become a decline of 70% it is very difficult to determine this prediction but for me everything will happen again in the same cycle but it takes a long time to look back, so just be patient for now will be better long term in my opinion for investment now.

And if we admit the possibility when the whales will overflow from bitcoin to altcoins, it’s possible, right? I'm not saying that it will be so, but such an option, among others, is possible. Then even if bitcoin falls, some alts can grow very significantly, I don’t know if it can be called an alt season. If this does not happen, then the market will rise with bitcoin, alts are always ready to follow bitcoin.

For alts season I think Bitcoin should be above 30 k for one weak then we will see good season for altcoins also. Investors will start buying altcoins once the saw any good movement in BTC and 30k is enough for this. It wi be 50% up if reached 30k. Alts will start pumping from this point.

good advice when it comes to choosing long-term investments for current conditions. and adding some assets will also help increase the accumulation of assets. The market is indeed bearish and the bitcoin price is still down about 70% from the last ATH. and this is a good opportunity. cycles will not be completely the same, but some descriptions of the cycles that have occurred can give a little idea of ​​the market conditions that will occur. after bearish occurs, bullish will come soon.

Altcoins are liked because of the volatility, not because they are expected to be stable. I mean bitcoin is "stable enough" compared to other coins in the crypto world which means that we shouldn't really be focusing on anything else. Just focus on the crypto world and how you could make a profit from it and you would be able to actually pull a profit from the volatile altcoins.

I personally do not prefer that, I do not risk my money with those volatile altcoins but I have seen many people do it and make profits and seen many who lost as well. I believe that the best thing you could do is buy bitcoin as much as you can and hold it as long as you can.

Well no one can actually tell when will be altcoin season will be visible in the crypto market. It may be next year or the following year. Because in some cases, even if bitcoin price is very bullish, some altcoins still have hard time to increase their prices, except for those established altcoins that are quickly influenced by the price of bitcoin. And when we say altcoin season, definitely all or mostly of the altcoins have shown consistent price increase until they hit their price peaks.

This market cant really be labelled up to be unpredictable if there's someone who would able to tell on when these things would happen.Its always been a question on when bullish run or recovery run would happen?

This is why we do see lots of speculative words and sayings in regarding with the market but those words could never be 100% precise on what would gonna happen next.This is where risk taking would really be
taking place.
We dont know on when altseason will start but one of its common indicative signs is that whenever bitcoin do make out some bullish run then expect that most coins would do the same.

It must be admitted that the price of volatile altcoins is preferred by traders to be able to generate profits, even though they know the risk is
very high, but it opens up opportunities for them to make a profit if they have good research and analysis skills. But for newbies or people who
don't dare to take too high a risk, like you said it's better to play it safe by buying as much Bitcoin as possible now, and holding Bitcoin until
the market recovers and the Bitcoin price can return to the ATH price again. The problem is that the Bitcoin price is currently stable at $20k,
so they have to be patient for those who expect the altseason to come. What is certain is that based on the results of the analysis I did, the price of
Bitcoin is likely to continue to be stable until the end of this year. So don't expect the altseason to come this year.

I think many altcoins we have now move along with Bitcoin so it all depends on the altcoin we are holding or trading. All altcoins do not move the same way all everything always depend of the project team if they have what it takes to make more investors to keep holding there coin or keep investing in that project.
 The market is becoming unpredictable now for investors and no one want to make loses from trading or holding a particular coin that is we the market seems very silent with better movement.
 Bitcoin is not moving well too so.it had affected all altcoins from having the optimum momentum that will keep them moving.

Yeah, altcoin season have started last time and I think that's when the price of btc reached $23k. This seems unexpected because that price was still low but usually we think alts season will start when the bull run starts or when btc surpassed it's previous all time high. What if it's not really btc who triggered the alt season? Because, there is also eth on the side that is doing great and some of us are thinking that it was the fault of eth and as we can see, btc is falling again while the momentum for most altcoins are still there.

I am not complaining about this but it was nice actually since we can now worry less. We can make profits in the side with the help of alts while we can stock up more btc.

First we need to have some sort of bitcoin rush to start the altcoin one. As long as bitcoin stays this way we are not going to see alts move at all.

But the moment bitcoin breaks this cycle and moves above 30k, that means money will start pouring into crypto world again and even though it will mostly end up with bitcoin and maybe a few select coins, there will be a bit of money going into smaller ones as well and considering their marketcap is lower, that small amount is actually a good big amount for them and I feel like it would make some sense for people to increase the price of those coins too. But like I said, it has to start with bitcoin first, then it can move on.

That type of volatility both makes people rich but also makes them poor at the same time. You need to realize how you could make money from crypto if you know what you are doing, and in order to do that you are right that we should be taking advantage of the volatility, but that doesn't change the fact that we can't really do anything else right now when the market is down, that volatility did help us go up, but it also caused us to go down a lot.

Some coins are as low as 90% and that means people have lost a lot. Look at Luna, that is not just volatility, that is the risk you take, nobody knew something like this would happen, and many lost entire savings because of it.

In the current situation, while Bitcoin is in a very bearish position and due to this, the prices of all altcoins have fallen very much. It seems very difficult for the price of altcoins to increase in the current price of Bitcoin.According to crypto experts, between 27k and 28k if the price of Bitcoin reaches.  Which is a strong resistance for Bitcoin. If this resistance is broken by bitcoin, then this price will become a strong support for bitcoin. After that, bitcoin can start its further journey,And from here there can be many chances to start the season of Alt coins.28k figure can play a very strong role for all altcoins to stop their falling price and increase prices.

The alt season does depend on the price of Bitcoin, because after all the movement of altcoins is greatly affected by the movement of Bitcoin.
That's why we really have to hope the Bitcoin price recovers soon, but the problem is that every time the Bitcoin price reaches $24k it always falls again.
It is very difficult to expect the price of Bitcoin to rise above the $25k price, because the Bitcoin price is quite stable around the $20k price. Even though,
as you might expect, if Bitcoin reaches a price of $27k or $28k, there is a possibility that Bitcoin will return to hype.

And if Bitcoin pumps because of the hype it will also push altcoins prices up, but for an alt season to really occur Bitcoin prices must at least
return to ATH prices. Therefore, since the bear market has not ended until now and the price of Bitcoin has not shown a satisfactory increase.
Most likely the alt season will not happen this year, therefore we must be patient holding until the bull market comes. But as long as we hold
potential coins, there is no need to be afraid of holding long-term, because potential coins will pump when the alt season comes.

we won't be able to see an altcoin season when it hits $27k in one strong pump. The support for the adoption of the altcoin market should also be increased so that when Bitcoin pumps it is not wasted. if the dominant bitcoin is too strong, it is also not good for the altcoins. we have seen in the past when the bitcoin pump was very strong but did not move the altcoin market.
we are still far from altcoin season, but perhaps higher bitcoin prices are needed to support this happening.