Title: Bitcoin Laws Imminent - June Article Post by: btcinstant on December 03, 2011, 08:57:47 PM Came across this article: http://nerdr.com/bitcoin-laws-imminent-bit-coin-soon-to-be-illegal-in-us/
Sort of interesting to see the conversation around it keep in mind it goes back to June. Anyways, there you go! ;D Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on December 03, 2011, 09:02:51 PM Capitalism > laws.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent Post by: Gabi on December 03, 2011, 09:03:52 PM Oh well i'm not in us
Also good luck to make it illegal and force it... Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent Post by: trentzb on December 03, 2011, 09:08:07 PM Executive enforces laws, Legislative makes laws. Courts researching Bitcoin is meaningless with regard to "imminent laws" and enforcement of such.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent Post by: JDBound on December 03, 2011, 09:10:30 PM Executive enforces laws, Legislative makes laws. Courts researching Bitcoin is meaningless with regard to "imminent laws" and enforcement of such. +1 First, this should probably be in the Legal section. Second, that article is total trash. The only thing the guy cites is http://www.uscourts.gov/Home.aspx . He then goes onto state "A quick rundown and recommendations for enforcement". This makes little sense, as he previously linked to the site of the JUDICIARY, and then blathers on about a function of the EXECUTIVE branch. There is absolutely zero evidence that anything mentioned in that article is under consideration by any branch of the U.S. government. Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent Post by: cbeast on December 03, 2011, 09:18:29 PM Making Bitcoin illegal will legitimize it for the simple fact that gubmints are skeerd. Not every nation will fear Bitcoin and the ones that adopt it will win.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent Post by: phillipsjk on December 03, 2011, 09:32:57 PM If there is any truth to the article, the powers that be have obviously decided on the "shut-down the Internet" method with bills like the Stop Online Piracy Act.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent Post by: cypherdoc on December 03, 2011, 09:37:10 PM why are you posting an article from back in June? nothing was imminent back then and nothing is imminent now. the author is also full of rubbish when he states the network is vulnerable. he's already been proven terribly wrong.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent Post by: RyNinDaCleM on December 03, 2011, 11:09:54 PM Quote from: nerdr I’m sure you would have a different tone should a criminal take your children and sell their organs on the black market to (for example) China. Say they use Bitcoins to carry out the transaction online, a deal that would not be possible without the existence of Bitcoin. We will never find them again, since Bitcoins are anonymous. Would you still support Bitcoins under those circumstances? Should we sit idly by while such manouvers are being made? I love the scare tacticz! :P Apparently, we already have a black market for small organs! ??? Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent Post by: bbit on December 03, 2011, 11:38:48 PM Quote from: nerdr I’m sure you would have a different tone should a criminal take your children and sell their organs on the black market to (for example) China. Say they use Bitcoins to carry out the transaction online, a deal that would not be possible without the existence of Bitcoin. We will never find them again, since Bitcoins are anonymous. Would you still support Bitcoins under those circumstances? Should we sit idly by while such manouvers are being made? I love the scare tacticz! :P Apparently, we already have a black market for small organs! ??? I know right! I guess we have the "silk organs" also ??? ??? Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent - June Article Post by: istar on December 04, 2011, 08:31:34 AM Police in East China's Shandong Province announced Wednesday that they have cracked two illegal organ-transplant clinics, arresting 18 people involved.
http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabid/99/ID/681152/Police-crack-underground-organ-trade-criminal-ring.aspx Wikipedia Organ trader: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_trade Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent - June Article Post by: hugolp on December 04, 2011, 10:33:31 AM Came across this article: http://nerdr.com/bitcoin-laws-imminent-bit-coin-soon-to-be-illegal-in-us/ Sort of interesting to see the conversation around it keep in mind it goes back to June. Anyways, there you go! ;D From the article: Quote Anti currency creation laws already in place here in the US could theoretically be applied to Bitcoin Miners making for a good media push. What a bunch of bollocks. There are laws to prevent the creation of federal reserve notes (if you are not the government of course), it would be counterfitting. There is absolutely no law preventing the creation of private currencies. That is an article pretending to be a serious analisis of Bitcoin legality? I stopped reading there. Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent - June Article Post by: RyNinDaCleM on December 04, 2011, 06:27:26 PM Police in East China's Shandong Province announced Wednesday that they have cracked two illegal organ-transplant clinics, arresting 18 people involved. http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabid/99/ID/681152/Police-crack-underground-organ-trade-criminal-ring.aspx Wikipedia Organ trader: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_trade I wasn't denying existence, only the existence of a bitcoin specific market. ;) Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent - June Article Post by: barbarousrelic on December 05, 2011, 01:11:28 PM Came across this article: http://nerdr.com/bitcoin-laws-imminent-bit-coin-soon-to-be-illegal-in-us/ Sort of interesting to see the conversation around it keep in mind it goes back to June. Anyways, there you go! ;D From the article: Quote Anti currency creation laws already in place here in the US could theoretically be applied to Bitcoin Miners making for a good media push. What a bunch of bollocks. There are laws to prevent the creation of federal reserve notes (if you are not the government of course), it would be counterfitting. There is absolutely no law preventing the creation of private currencies. That is an article pretending to be a serious analisis of Bitcoin legality? I stopped reading there. The author is not very smart. First he says it will become illegal, then he claims it's already illegal. The only way you could claim it's currently illegal is if you can convince a court that a reasonable person could confuse a Bitcoin with legal tender US banknotes or coins. That is not going to happen. Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent - June Article Post by: MysteryMiner on December 05, 2011, 02:55:26 PM It's not illegal yet, but the lawmakers can pass law that make cryptocurrency illegal in future. There was time when ganja and heroin also was completely legal, any kid could buy a heroin for his parents at a local pharmacy.
The ruling regime is all about control and enslavement. The cryptocurrencies can give freedom to general populace and can't be easily controlled, so it will be banned in future. The good thing is that there already are laws against filesharing, but they are completely ineffective against anyone who know how to use computers properly. The same will happen to Bitcoins or any other cryptocurrency. Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent - June Article Post by: btc_artist on December 05, 2011, 03:43:25 PM laws against filesharing, Are you sure about that?Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent - June Article Post by: MysteryMiner on December 05, 2011, 04:12:31 PM laws against filesharing, Are you sure about that?Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent - June Article Post by: phillipsjk on December 05, 2011, 06:04:48 PM laws against filesharing, Are you sure about that?This is why I support the Pirate Party. I want to make duplicates of data that has a free (as in freedom) data license attached. The problem is that ISP and webhost Terms of Service tend to be written around the assumption that file-sharing will only cuase problems. This may not be just legal problems: a popular file an a cheap web-host likely costs the webhost more than expected. However, as far as I can tell, it is not a criminal issue. But your milage may vary by jurisdiction. Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent - June Article Post by: barbarousrelic on December 05, 2011, 06:26:02 PM laws against filesharing, Are you sure about that?Filesharing is not completely illegal, it is only illegal if you are filesharing copyrighted works that you do not have the right to distribute. Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent - June Article Post by: MysteryMiner on December 05, 2011, 07:06:29 PM laws against filesharing, Are you sure about that?Filesharing is not completely illegal, it is only illegal if you are filesharing copyrighted works that you do not have the right to distribute. Pirate Party are good when it comes to piracy. Otherwise they are mostly leftists and pacifists. That does not fit well in my national socialist ideology. And there is need for completely new system and new values of society. The current democratic capitalist system are full of patchwork laws and uncorrectable issues. Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent - June Article Post by: ineededausername on December 05, 2011, 07:17:42 PM national socialist ideology Are you trolling? O.o Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent - June Article Post by: barbarousrelic on December 05, 2011, 08:20:06 PM laws against filesharing, Are you sure about that?Filesharing is not completely illegal, it is only illegal if you are filesharing copyrighted works that you do not have the right to distribute. For example, Linux distributions are frequently downloaded over torrents so they ease up the traffic on the official download channels. Public-domain books can be so old there is no "author's website." And some artists want to distribute some or all of their music on filesharing to increase their fan base. Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent - June Article Post by: 714 on December 05, 2011, 08:34:31 PM laws against filesharing, Are you sure about that?What jursidiction? What data? There are some many issues with the statement above that it doesn't really mean anything. We do all the filesharing we want here in Somalia, and no one bothers us about it ;D Title: Re: Bitcoin Laws Imminent - June Article Post by: btc_artist on December 05, 2011, 09:51:18 PM laws against filesharing, Are you sure about that? |