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This can be a very good list, but I do not know much about scam casinos and betting sites generally, I like the old ones which are the betting sites that have been existing for long with good reputation, but that does not mean I am not going to like some new betting sites on this forum that are being promoted becaue the legit ones are successfully promoted.

I did not see 1xbit which is not reputable on this forum, or you think it is 1xbet? 1xbet has been a reputable gambling site I think which is according to how it is and how it has been promoted even on social platforms and on Tv, but I may be wrong, if you have reasons for the site to be seen as not reputable, them tell us why.

Would be nice to see some comments, explaining why a particular website in the list was recognized as a scam.

This. Because anyone can do the same for such list. The website owner/admin/in-charge of the list can make even just a brief summary why it was labeled as scam, or put an external link of the details why they list a particular website as a scam

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Sometimes the user itself makes a false report, you know because of losing = casino scam or they are from prohibited country and casino decide to close his account but the user can't take it since he did not read any T&C.

I more prefer, If @OP make their own list based on the case like you find some thread and read the progress issue to make sure is a valid report.

What a long list but it is just a list without any explanation or proof about how they are scam.
I found some popular casinos listed as scam but I do not think they are scam.
Those casinos are: Betfury, Duelbits, Stake, Rollbit, and some other casinos.
It seems that all the casinos are listed by report but I think the admin do not do any investigation for the report.
@OP are you the owner of the website?

Wait! This is a list of Scam gambling site in this year? Or a list of all gambling sites in 2021? And How actually they are getting listed in your list? I can see some reputed Casino in this forum are also on the list. So why and how actually they are in?

#a link aslo needed so that people can read about those man.

I think this is a list of all crypto casinos around! I wanted to contact the owner and ask him if there is any trustworthy crypto casino at all? But for that, I need to register and to give them my phone number "in case they need to reach out to me"! There's a "non-scams" review section, but just for forex and crypto wallets!

I believe this is a joke! If it's not a joke then it's very unprofessional, without any proof and without any research, the owner just listed all crypto casinos as scams! Why would anyone trust this!?

This is the most funniest scam casino list I have ever seen. I'm wondering which kind of investigation was done before adding casinos in the list. Lot's of legit and popular casino is in that list. You have mentioned some of them. And I can see few more casino there, like Wolf.bet, Bitcasino. I'm playing in these casino for years and never faced any issues. But the administration of the site has added those reputable casino in his scam list!

Moreover, if anyone wants make report against any casino then he/she need to provide own email address, phone number, country. Who would like to provide his own number there! I will simply follow this thread for my safety.
🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283832.0)

That's why I doubt this long list whether the site is still said to be credible with the list statement because for me Rollbit, Duelbits and Betfury are casinos that are not scams even though this is good I almost play there every time I play there so for me this list of sites must be soon revision.

Without any reviews we will not fully believe it, maybe the name of another casino that is not known, maybe I have a little trust while the casino site has a good reputation on the forum but why it is on this list, it's really unclear.

IIRC I had found those list earlier which someone mentioned* it on an announcement thread of newly casino, at the first glance it was quite a huge list however there some trustworthy casinos such as pointed out by panjul07 were being listed there. To be honest, thus scam list is really questionable and I wouldn't lean myself on it

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*here it is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5361429.msg58026590#msg58026590

^ Definitely right, upon checking the site and while reading the scam gambling casinos there is the question in my mind why they labeled as a scam gambling site and what is the reason. I just wanted to know what is the reason and it could be good if they will label on the side of the name of the casino why they become scams. Because there are too many reasons why a gambling casino becomes a scam. They scam their users, are they a phishing link casino or a fake link or a clone website because there are too many factors that a casino considered as scam. However, in the end, it is a good list where to find a list that has a dozen scam websites.

It's true I will follow the reviews in this forum compared to other sites because with a list of gambling sites that are scams of course you have to have some reviews and I follow the reviews from @notblox1

There are still many who doubt especially after seeing there is a casino that is proven to be fair but registered there so I will not trust the review site, even though the update date is October 17 but they don't provide changes, then how do I contact them for this update?

It is completely a joke, I dont understand why xenon131 take this website seriously and share it here? I tried to find out an information about the author Robert Schreiber and I found a single person only https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_D._Schreiber who is an immunologist. I guess the owner of the scamnewschannel is not using his real name and he is using other's name.

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I appreciate the main purpose of xenon131, which is to warn us about scam sites but we should not trust such information where there is no single evidence. It is like a baseless accusation against all casinos.

Odd that they just list casinos without any proof as to why they consider it a scam. I can see DuelBits there which is also doing a signature campaign there. That's definitely just an allegation since I found no scam accusation in this forum about them.

Anyone could just make a list of their own and then post it on a webpage. I imagine just how harsh competition makes other casinos try to ruin a reputation with false data.

And this. Because if the reason is not clearly mentioned and detailed then the site can be use as Personal vendetta as well
to attack other gambling site in which will contradict the belief of the Site owner/admins .

and also this will never differ from other review site that in the end becomes a Paid place to introduced some while attacking others.

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But thank you for the share Mate as i will Bookmark this site for my future usage , though I have my favorite gambling sites yet
sometime trying to visit several site for changing ambiance in playing .

I find the site helpful but at least each Gambling site mentioned should have some sort of Violation or explanation indicated into their names for us to have personal review , and also Better to also put direct link to each site so we can evaluate ourselves their existing sites.
I also added some reports about sites that has been promoted here or at least having scam accusations in exist to Bitcointalk that is not on the list.
thanks for this mate as I had also message them directly about those proposition i mentioned and hope that they will evaluate and at least look at it in brighter side.

We need to react so we can save the list for our own purposes and not try to get involved in that casino if we do not want to get into trouble in the future.
We do not know if that site is really a scam because it is from someone who creates the list and other people can make their own scam list.
We can do like them by creating our own scam gambling site because we have a problem, but that does not mean that the other gamblers will have the same experience as us.
Related to that list, I prefer not to do many things because in that list, I have some gambling sites that I still use to play the games and I do not get any problems.

This kind of list is helpful for those who are unsure of the casino they're playing. But I do agree if there are some reviews that are attached for each casino and the experience of the person who reported it to them.

Because there is an instance that a gambler is just angry at his losses for a particular casino and makes a report to them with a made-up story just to put that casino on their scam list. I think that's unfair if the casino reported is fair and legitimate.

Lol, after quickly scrolling on the list I saw duelbits, wolf.bet, and stake on the list. I wonder what kind of "investigation" they are doing to decide whether a gambling site is a scam or not. would have been nice to know the reason why the gambling sites on the list are considered a scam.

I only take points based on the data written by: @Robert Schreiber, below is related to gambling sites.


Here I can conclude that: @Robert Schreiber, a journalist, he released almost all online gambling sites that have ever existed both outside and in this forum, from the article written by: @Robert can say he doesn't know which sites are legit and scams, @Robert is just taking based on the reports he received on his review sites from gamblers.

I think this is dangerous for @Robert's website as well as himself, because he really has never played and knows about the gambling site, just based on the reports he received, a journalist cannot publish news based on one party's report, he must go to the crime scene directly to accuse the gambling site of being a scam or not, unless he has solid evidence that the gambling site is a scam, if @Robert is wrong in reporting the leading gambling sites on the internet @Robert could be jailed and punished according to the code of ethics of gambling laws in each country.

It's about the reputation of the gambling site/company, they have law and lawyers on this, so it's a bigger risk what @Robert does in his web review, if he is wrong in accusing the online gambling site.

Yeah at least he is asking for peoples confirmation or stand regarding the listed or not even listed sites in this he Means he is only relying on the reports but what about the said Investigation? who investigate? he does not and that all based in just report so what if someone who just wanna ruin gambling site reputation then they can be just listed there?

I think what we can do to help out those legit sites is our own reporting so at least enlightenment will come to the author of that site.

^ It seems you are right and even Rollbit.com, I saw it there that included the list. How come?
I don't know where did they got that information I never saw a complaint from Rollbit and I don't think they are scams, I am completely against their list.
For me, we can ignore this list because it is a baseless scam list, I don't know why @Robert Schreiber has this conclusion of scams, and probably this is slandering other gambling casinos. Do you think a gambling casino can file a case against them? It is a libel case or entity's reputation.

For any users who still don't have any idea how they included popular and trusted casino on the list, this is how they do. Any stranger can fill up the report details that he provided, he can write whatever legit or faked accusation and then press submit. After that, this sites will include the casino to the list because it's from direct reporting from the form details.

The funny thing this sites doesn't included very known scam casino e.g. 1xbit, adkinsbet, kawbet, coins777 etc lol :D

That's a huge number of scam casinos, I'm not aware of the majority of these casinos, it is not configured to be a link so when can access these scam casinos so we'll have a good idea how they look like, some of them are just slogan and description, there should be an explanation why they considered a scam.
I expect to see 1XBIT there but I only see 1XBET, I know they are a sister company but still, they should be included, they are big news here.

Lets say the author create a list of trusted casinos and do the same listing process, we will see the same casinos on both Scam and Trusted list lol. The list of the scam casinos shows that the author is not a professional. Someone who claim himself as a journalist and researcher with 15 years experience on financial crimes will not do a random listing like this.

if you look at YOSHIE's post, the author of that list Relies on reports coming from individuals. although he claims that investigation has been done I doubt that the author actually does it. because if he does we would have seen references as to why the gambling sites were on the list or is considered as scam.

as for them being able to file a case, they probably could. but the gambling site would need to provide evidence that whatever caused them to be listed on a scam list is false.

I wonder how he can compile that such a big list of online scam casinos because I see that some of his lists have good reputations here so I think he does not know the truth.

If that list relies on individuals, the author needs to investigate by himself and find out if that report is right or needs to fix because if he plays the game from each site and deposits and withdraws the money, he will know if the site is right is good or not.

Hopefully, the audience can be selective to use that gambling lists and the important is that they do not deposit in big money just to play gambling and not try to break their TOS.

I'm not sure about the list being helpful when you see one of the most popular betting exchanges included in the list. It might give others some second thoughts before creating their account but I think it's better if they'd look for a different list than rely on this one because like you've said it only takes one or two bad experiences for the site to be included in the list as they ask for reports about anyone's case.

I'd say the thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283832.0) posted in the gambling discussion is more detailed compared to this list.

Could be a good list if they put the reason why they are considered scam there are no scam reports on those casinos why they are included in the list, this makes this compilation questionable I guess the creator just included if they have submission without doing an investigation, for casinos to be considered scam there should a legit accusation, not only complain.

I agree.

Pointing out on how they became a scam will help others to be wary of casinos they are planning to play in. Also, it would be more convincing if proofs are present because it's so easy to say a certain casino is a scam while you are just tripping and lack in evidence. But a list is a good start since gamblers would be alerted not to make any stupid decisions for them to lose their money on scam casinos.

It could be helpful but unfair for the accused at the same time because proofs aren't included as well as the explanation of how they are being tagged as scam casinos. There should be concrete evidence or at least reference to prove it so others will be completely aware of it.

I too see the list not accurate, I do not understand why 1xbet (not 1xbit) is among, but 1xbit is not, 1xbet is a reputable betting platform but 1xbit have no good reputation yet while many people on these forum are accusing the betting site to be scam.

This will be a very good idea, if there can be proofs included to let us know how some reputed gambling sites on it are also scam. Some are scam but if reputed ones are included along that are not scamming, it is the worst thing that can be done, then better for this type of article not to exist, because accusing and including reputable sites among bad ones is more than damaging for the reputable betting sites.

Hard to file a libel case to an author who probably doesn't exist, his name is Robert Schreiber. But who knows this could just be a pseudo name which authors usually use a fictitious name. But they could contact the website. They have a long list of scam casinos which they don't even say how the casino scam.

Could this be a trick to just extort the casino owners in order for their website to be removed from the list?

I mean the kind of list is good for everyone to see but it's more helpful if there's a reasoning why they've put it on the list.

They've only said that someone has reported it but they never show the reasoning why it has to be on this list. If they only take suggestions from others about putting the report for each of those casinos then I think it will increase the credibility.

^ Who knows that author using a real name.
Possible that could be extortion, this also comes to my mind. But I don't think a gambling owner will pay attention to them especially if the casino owner knows that they had good deeds for their users or they know that they never scam someone. For now, I think the author of this casino need to contact and ask about the compilation list of scam casinos which there are some are not true.

I don't think I can trust this list not because I'm part of the Stake.com campaign, but the three casinos mentioned do not have valid scam reports here in Bitcointalk and if there is it was already resolved, there are not even reason why these three casinos are included in the scam list, I've looked for 1XBIT they are not listed but only their sister company 1xBET, Bitcointalk scam section still has the best compilation of scam casinos.

Wrong , 1xbet/1xbit is being accused the same company , and here are the thread created against these two scam gambling sites

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5324153.0


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230966.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5237723.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235201.0

i think those are enough to prove them being scammers.


actually we can Help the situation by reporting all our knowledge about those scam and legit sites listed above , I'm sure that the creator are open in all help and advise .

That's questionable maybe one guy who loses his money on these sites wants to get even by reporting these three sites as scam casinos, but we know better, the majority of the casinos listed here are unknown to me, the majority of these could be fiat since the majority of these do not have links we have to Google it and there's no guaranty if that's the right casino.

Yes, I will do the same as you as I see Duelbits is also on the list.
And as I mentioned already, we do not have to do anything related to that list because we already have our favourite gambling site that we used to gamble on before.
Maybe people new to gambling need to search for more information to know whether those lists are right.
It is better to have our own gambling site lists than to see the list from other people because we know what we choose.

No one will ever see this list by searching anyway. Unless someone will really search "Big online List of scam casinos" on google which I doubt there will be. For someone to list a casino that has not scammed anyone I think has a motive of doing so which probably is asking money from the casino owner for his casino link to be removed from the list.

I say he must have had success in extorting before this one. I have read some of the hotel reviews before which hotel owners are paying in order for the bad reviews taken out. Its same scam I believe.

that's what I thought. relying on someone's report can be misleading since like you said the gambler might have lost and is blaming the gambling site for it. until the author of that list provides evidence to support the accusations that have been made. it is safe to say that the list is unreliable and should not be used as a reference on which gambling site is a scam or not.

I don't know why the admin did not include the reasons why those listed are scams, when checking in their submission page, you can see that you have to fill up the reason and information, it will be informative if the information is included.

I've gone through the list, and am totally confused whether or not to believe that every betting sites listed there are all scams, I know particularly of bet9ja, though I haven't done any research to know what people are saying about them online, but I know for sure that this platform is very popular in my country and I've never heard anyone complain of them not paying him or her their winning and anyone having any kind of withdrawal issues, in my country, people have won hundreds or millions through bet9ja, and theyve always paid, i dont know how they managed to get in that list.

I am confused whether is this a list of online gambling casinos or a list of scam casinos. I can find most of the casinos in this list.
I was really shocked to see gambling sites such as BC.GAME and Duelbits on the scam gambling sites list.
It's tough to believe that this is a genuine list because I haven't heard of any scams from both of these reputed sites.