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Dear users,

We, https://krypto-oddsen.com/, have listened to forum users and removed 1xbit & 888starz and 1xbit from our pages. The intention was not to market and promote pages without focusing on the ethical and reputational, but seen from our own perspective:

1. The casino is licensed
2. The company markets the world's largest football league LaLiga
3. Many sites promote both casinos.
4. For those of us who have tested both deposits, withdrawals (20 US dollars) and games, we had no problems.

But again, thank you that consumer power exists! And thank you for using us!

Why create a specific thread for these two casinos when you already have an official thread here, it's unethical for a casino review site to list a casino that is notorious is scamming players and it's been proven, not only about consumer power but your responsibility to give a credible report.

You seem eager to promote your site so you add unnecessarily new topics to the forum. You have already had the topics deleted by moderators, do you need to repeat the same mistake again? In this forum, there is a rule: "One thread per site only". You could have posted all this information in your ANN thread.

Doesn't mean they are trusted.

Marketing Doesn't turn it to be trusted, they are advertising on the forum ad well. But it doesn't make them legit.

Promoters need just money, scam is not matter for them.

Win BIG then try and get back to us.

Obviously, you are not doing a proper investigation, you should list casinos based on research and weigh on the accusations, they should not be on your list in the first place, what if there is a visitor of your review site and he joins 1XBIT using your link and he got scammed, you will end up part of the blame for listing site like 1XBIT, you should update your list from time to time.

if, you look from the outside 90% of the gambling sites on the internet have what you mentioned.

it's a different story with the 1xbit gambling site, it's just that you need to review their behavior from the inside: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2835882, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3329829

Victims of scams almost every day they complain of missing money and they don't want to pay for the winners, if you only care about gambling sites like you mentioned, Of course why are you complaining about that, it's your right to include them on your website, but chances are that your review site is full of spam and insults, that's for sure, take that into account.

You want to see from the outside only or you don't care about the inside.

Do you mean there is pressure to take them down, I have no pressure calling you a promoter of scammers, you are just afraid to see your website in the scam or reputation thread for listing and promoting 1XBIT, how about listening to your conscience next time so you'll not be helping these scammers.

It's funny that you removed the mentioned websites from your list while leaving their parent company 1XBET. Moreover, it doesn't appear that you have found anything negative about them, and you gave them four and a half stars out of five. What research have you done when writing your casino reviews? The least that you could mention is that they have a large number of unresolved scam accusations against them, as well as 67% bad reviews on Trustpilot. The same goes for Melbet and Pnxbet.

I understand what OP is trying to express, they cannot make a decision to remove a gambling site from the list based on reputation only as they would probably delist most of the gambling sites since most of the gambling sites have bad feedback.

The most accurate basis is their legitimacy, they are operating with a license so there's no harm for a review site to promote them, and OP explained their basis of listing the site, so it's up to us now if we trust their review or not but as I said, we cannot force their to remove it.

In our forum, 1xbit is like yobit if it's an exchange,  lots of negative feedback but they are still operating legally.

as @COOLCRYPTOVATOR said, having a license doesn't mean they are trusted, so let's make our judgment based on what we think is right as no one can convince everyone not to play in a site even if the feedback is bad.

my 2 cents.

I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion, but it is wrong. 1xbit is a scam casino that operates illegally in most jurisdictions.

You won't find info on the site about how to report an issue to a government regulator, there is no data on how the site safeguards customer information, or even who the owners are.

Honestly I don't trust the site also but I read online that they are licensed.

Just like this review site is telling that 1xbit has a license.

https://www.bookmakers.bet/review/1xbit/


I just don't know if the information is accurate, but you can enlighten me about your statement that "they operates illegally in most jurisdictions."

Are you really basing your argument on information from some obscure online source? Don't trust, verify!

https://i.imgur.com/MKEGyEz.png
https://verification.curacao-egaming.com/validateview.aspx?domain=1xbit.com

And that's just about the license. Another issue of legality is the fact that no jurisdiction allows online casinos to operate without public disclosure of company information.

I don't see any license on 1xbit (usually gambling license were on bottom pages) but the parents aka 1xbet have gambling license Curacao E-gaming. However most of casino use Curacao license which is they wouldn't get protected the gambler if the casino is scam, the license only make the casino looks more legit, in the end it's based on the casino reputation itself not from the license.

Oh I see! You already have a thread in this forum where you can pass this your information. Why choose to create a new thread? Maybe you are trying to point out something I haven't had about. I have fee questions for you man.

Why are you telling us now after you have already made the advert.
Why do you decide to create a new thread?
I do you promote when you are not comfortable with it?

I don't mean to question your decisions but just felt like having a hint of your debugging.

It is a good thing that  you removed them from your site's review. But also keep mind those that are connected to the site. Since you already reviewd other casino, you can try to search about them here. Just use the search button, probably some of them have some customers here or they created a thread before. Or you can also try to search about them on other forum, specifically on gambling forums.

Why are you so mad? Very suspicious to others but based on your trust record, you're the scammer.

I don't trust your review because your site lacks the credibility to do a proper review that player should depend on when choosing the site to gamble on. This thread to me is unnecessary and from a newbie account with zero reputation on this forum.

I don't know how to verify the site but thanks for educating me on that matter.

For me, the most important as a gambler is the reputation of the site, whether it's licensed or not, I will still gamble and trust the site but with limitations. It's only now I know that 1xbit or 1xbet does not have a license but honestly, I know some people who are still using the site.

Information on the website https://www.bookmakers.bet about the 1xBit license in Curacao show up probably because they mistakenly assumed that 1xBit and 1xBet are the same company. Probably they checked 1xBet and stated that 1xBit works under their license, which is not true from what was officially announced by the 1xBit support.

You will never trust any review site where the site that you are promoting in your signature space is tagged as scam, and you will trust any review site where 1xbit is tagged as trusted site, am I right?  ;D ;D What is wrong with newbie account? There is no requirement for anyone in this forum to make a review. As long as the review is honest with some proper evidences, everyone is welcome to make a review.

I cannot trust a gambling review like yours where the criteria are on their perspective and not what players are experiencing, the reputation should be high on the criteria on every review site, gamblers are looking for reputation first, all the others will just follow, your site should exist to serve the gambling community and not promote gambling sites regardless of their reputation, you just ruin your reputation because of how you defend these two scam sites.

I feel this thread is completely unnecessary since you could have simply shared this update on your main thread. Tip: Don't repeat this in the future op.

Coming to the topic itself, you made the right choice by removing those scam sites from your site though they should never have been added in the first place. Both sites have plenty of pending scam accusations against them currently.

though i Hate the Idea of creating New topic for this instead of Posting this in your own ANN Thread yet i salute you for listening  to the community as they need to be safer by promoting or welcoming a Scammer sites in your listings.
at least now you know how to handle questionable site and this will never happen again in the future.

Good Job .

For me it is strange that the OP was forced to remove its review.
After all, all casinos are checked the same way, right?
So if other casinos have been checked in the same way, it means that all their reviews should be removed as they are wrong(?!).
In my opinion, these reviews should remain as they were made by OP + could add a comment about the opinion of the Bitcointalk community.
In my opinion, that would be the most logical solution.

both casinos have a bad reputation in the forum that's why members said something about it. OP could have just ignored the suggestions but he didn't. if you have a casino that is not supposed to be on the list you should make a suggestion to the OP and maybe he'll listen to you too.

I don't mean removing any casino from the list, on the contrary, I think it's a bad idea. Review of each person or website should be independent and objective. If these two reviews are bad then the other reviews are bad as well?
OP made an honest review that disliked the community. In my opinion, he should not follow community pressure, but simply add to his review information/warning that the Bitcointalk community has a different opinion. Thats all.

then message the OP that he shouldn't follow what the community says and that reviewing a website that has a long history of bad reputation here in the forum is perfectly fine as long as the review he made to the two gambling sites is completely honest.

I would not like to discuss this behind the curtain (in private messages).
 
I believe this is why this thread was created, so maybe OP will read this and consider my opinion as well as other users.

I think my arguments are quite logical, but I also understand why you disagree with them (Do I understand correctly that it is what you are suggesting in your comment?)

If any of you have 1xbit account with lost near 3000-5000$ (minus account)
write to telegram :@seller_r, i can rent it for 1 month for 100-150$ pay to you.

Everyone in this forum can see that you are trying your best to defend 1xbit since you are being paid by them on a regular basis shill which is why most people who have an idea about 1xbit's negative reputation aren't supporting your opinion.

What makes you shameful is the fact that you clearly are aware of 1xbit's negative reputation, but you chose to ignore that and everyone knows why. Am not really surprised since you are a scammer yourself.

I am quoting this as evidence.

Why do you think someone rents debited 1xBit accounts?

For me it is clear that someone needs it in order to multiply complaints and do black PR for 1xBit.

Unless you have any other ideas?

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Respond to that post please: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267172.msg58372753#msg58372753

No one is perfect, I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt, did they made a mistake by including casinos that have a negative reputation in the forum and which have so much evidence brought against them? I think the answer is yes, especially since this is a website fully dedicated to give insightful reviews.

However they have corrected their mistake and removed them, so as long as they check the rest of their reviews to see if there are not other casinos like this then I think the issue should be settled.

Already a well-known scammer on this forum, so I'm not really surprised by anything that comes from him. Just look at his trust rating. I wouldn't be surprised to see all the other 1xbit shill accounts also come from him, given the fact that he has admitted to selling bumping services.

No one is really perfect but you will be blinded if you are a profit-driven review site where the first thing that you will look at is the percentage of your earnings as an affiliate, I'm ok with review sites including their referral link but they should call a spade a spade, it's a very bad alibi because you are forced taking down the review because you are listening to forum users and not investigating the fact.

OP is also spamming this forum for creating three threads to promote your review site, you are not playing fair and breaking the rules.

That is because no research have been made before giving reviews if that site is to bw trust or not. If you see that there are some people who will give good reviews because they are shilling those sites and they are paid to do it just like some streamers that are paid to stream about the gambling site. It's a way to promote their gambling site. It is a good start to listen suggestions from people.

This account was bought from a scammer (not supposed to have a red trust). I have nothing to do with what the previous owner is responsible for.

No matter what my trust is, you may not agree with my opinion anyway. However, you cannot ignore the facts that you can see here. Someone buys 1xbit accounts to do black PR, and it is fact!

That is why selling and buying accounts is discouraged, just because there is a change of ownership the account will not be accountable for any misdeeds that the account has done in the past, it will be a part of that action for the life of that account in this forum

and about you have to prove that or I miss that one on one of your post

That is why my statements are treated as you can see. Well, I have to deal with it.


Just check this user posts history and draw your own conclusions:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2809729;sa=showPosts

Take a look at how he discussed with the support of Coinroyale and think about what he needs debited 1xbit accounts for..

Thats why research is everything when it comes to verifying things specially when you are in doubt which there are things that  you could really find if you do just make out on saving up your ass.

Important things you do really consider on doing first before depositing any money because you wouldnt know if you are dealing with a scam or shady site which would cause some headaches.
You do need on at least your assignment.

And I agree, this is why review sites most of the time are not worth consulting because they have a conflict of interests, on one hand their purpose is to give honest reviews to their readers, but on the other they need to make money and it is not difficult to imagine a dishonest casino trying to pay the owner of the review site in order to receive a more favorable review.

And when that happens the whole purpose of the review site is forfeited, which is why I prefer to read reviews of real users in the forum as the majority of them are just sharing their experiences playing at a casino without any hidden motive.