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Title: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Stanlo on November 06, 2021, 10:11:11 AM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: TheKernel on November 06, 2021, 12:30:18 PM
For some reason the October-December push is always fenominal with BTC.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Anonylz on November 06, 2021, 01:23:58 PM
Since nobody can predict what will happen in the next few weeks and months, but if we follow what majority are saying, November is a bullish month in crypto and particularly this November is very bullish (according to some source so if this is going to be the case, it is better to get prepared than to be left behind,
From now till q1 2022 things can go either ways, but I feel before the bear market comes, the market will go up. In any case am prepared for either one.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Coin_trader on November 06, 2021, 01:29:13 PM
For some reason the October-December push is always fenominal with BTC.

Yes, This always be the case on every strong bull run of Bitcoin but remember that everyone knows it including the whales. They can use it as an opportunity to short the market while most of the retail investors is still accumulating since they know that the current is supposed to be a bullish for Bitcoin. I will not gonna be surprised if one day, there will be a series of flash crash coming from whales until bulls buy power completely overcome on by bears.

I'm still bullish in Bitcoin but I already split my asset to 50-50. It's better to keep safe half of my portfolio rather than risk it all-in on indecisive trend market. I believe December will be the last wave for this bull cycle if ever this current correction will hold on the support @55K level and above.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: chaser15 on November 06, 2021, 01:32:15 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time

There will be a possible bear as for every bull run, expect there's a bear afterwards. But it should not be painful as what we saw in 2017 thru 2018. Maybe next year, the bottom price of bitcoin will be again at around $30,000. We should know the preparations needed if ever we will again experience the bear trend.

Don't hesitate to buy during bear as we already witnessed what happened next after a bear trend. Don't want to see some questions if it's already a good time to buy when the bull trend is now forming again.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Findingnemo on November 06, 2021, 01:39:02 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
History will repeat but its not going to repeat exactly in the same way so you can't expect the bear market just like in 2018, it will differ for sure in someway but the only thing is even if the price fell still it will increase and the raise will be above from the previous level.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: 2tang on November 06, 2021, 01:48:14 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
This year will not be exactly the same as 2017, because the circulation of the amount of money in the cryptocurrency cycle has started to differ and the average coin is in good condition and at a price that is much different from before.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: makishart on November 06, 2021, 01:53:51 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017?
Last? There will be last for the bullish cycle, it will end but it can also come again anytime. Remember that the bullish that happened with bitcoin was not only in once time. This bullrun was even bigger compared with 2017 bullrun. Didn't you watch how crowded institutional investors talked about crypto these days? so many major companies in the world were also putting their eyes into the crypto. When you're asking people and i do believe there would be more people said that they know about crypto. The massive adoption is starting right now. Institutional investors bought bitcoin to be used for their investment as well.

Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
A lots of thing has been changing and people are starting to move their asset into the crypto . Stock was not so profitable as crypto but it has the same risk as crypto.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: adamantasaurus on November 06, 2021, 02:29:13 PM
well things have changed drastically yes, defi metaverse stupid meme coins etc. etc. but I am still willing to bet we will see at some point and 85% correction in the market but for how long that is to be determined. The bull market has lasted longer than it has supposed to so maybe we will see a longer bear market as well. Usually it's a year bull market followed by 3-4yr bear market although the btc halvening may shorten it as well. Truth is we are in uncharted territories and anyone that tells you something is certain is either lying to your face or just naïve.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Pffrt on November 06, 2021, 02:43:12 PM
I think we are in the same pattern as the 2017 pump of the crypto market. We have seen December was a boom month in 2017 and we can still hope the same for December 2021 too. I will not surprised if January 2022 comes with the same dump as of the last 2018.
A lot of people thought the pump was ended but I'm still bullish. I still beleive we will make it $100000 per BTC and it will also boom all the other altcoin befire the significant dump.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Johnyz on November 06, 2021, 02:46:21 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
I just trusted the cycle and this market, its all about risk since there's no assurance that we can make another ATH just enjoy holding or even trading on the market without putting too much pressure on yourself. This is a very volatile market, anything can happen and if you're a risk taker you can achieve more on this market. Patience is also very important, this might happen again in the next 4 years, we'll see.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Mamun74 on November 06, 2021, 02:52:25 PM
This year is very different in 2017.I Think cryptocurrency price too much different in 2017. 2017 Bitcoin and ETH and others crypto price was too low than 2021.Cz now bitcoin price $61k+ and ETH price $4.1k+.I Think crypto currency price will be more increase in This year and future.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: bamb on November 06, 2021, 03:04:13 PM
There might be pattern in the way cryptocurrency behave, but you can not use yesterday's experience to predict tomorrow's outcome. Bitcoin will definitely not play out like it did in 2017. I am expecting to be pleasantly surprised about this bull run. I think bitcoin will at least reach a new ath!


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: magnum1010 on November 06, 2021, 03:36:56 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
After bull run it must be a correction so it is normal to expect that it will be soon after such a long and big growth of the whole crypto market. When the market is overheated people start lock-in their profit and as a result there is a decreasing. Actually, I don't see any fundamental reason for market to fall as there is no really bad news so I think that growth will continue for some time more.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: michellee on November 06, 2021, 03:52:33 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
Hopefully, the bear market will not come in the 1st quarter of 2022 but the 2nd quarter so we can still expect to make a big profit on our coins. But it could happen as we can not know what will happen in the next year.

Maybe in this rest of the year, we can go back to make a profit by selling our coins at a high price so when the bear market comes in anytime, we are ready to buy back the coins as the price can drop too deep. That is why we need to be ready for anything that can happen to anticipate the big loss that could come.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: izsara on November 06, 2021, 04:00:26 PM
everything is uncertain, no one can really predict in this case.
This is just a variety of speculations that are indeed in the mirror from previous years because indeed in October - December, bitcoin usually experiences a significant increase.
on the other hand, this is just speculation by looking at the data and facts of the past few years, the rest we can only hope it will happen again this year.
And if something like this really happened, it would be quite encouraging


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Reid on November 06, 2021, 04:16:20 PM
Most analyst would rather use history as their background for predicting the outcome of events.
If not, then where would take all the data from? It cannot be a guess or just giving out a number because you dreamt about it or a premonition hit you.
There is no Nostradamus here but you could use your own logic here.
When do you always spend your money? When will be the time when you need to go to the bank and withdraw some because you empty your wallet?
Ber months is a spending time or in this case investing time. Then withdrawals comes afterwards which is a bear market and is mostly after the spending time. 1st quarter.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: zasad@ on November 06, 2021, 04:44:38 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
There is no need to compare these 2 different time periods. If the majority thinks that there will be a bear market in Q1 2022, then this may not happen. There is still a lot of positive news to come out on the ecosystems of Ethereum, Polkadot, Solana, Cardano, etc.
  And it will not necessarily be in a sary scenario with the movement of liquidity from bitcoins to altcoins.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Stanlo on November 06, 2021, 05:03:25 PM
Thanks for your contributions, my advice is we should be prepared for any outcome, the market thread do looks bullish but we can never say what will happen tomorrow, my plan is to look how this month performs this is what will determine if I will keep my coins till end of the year or not


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Review Master on November 06, 2021, 05:57:12 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time

Indeed, it won't be the same like previous bear market with same type of pattern. But bear market will be happened for sure, no doubt on it. Also, upcoming bear market might show new pattern in the crypto-currency market, else everyone would make profits by following the previous bear market. So just hope for the good and prepare for the worst.  ;)


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 06, 2021, 07:36:45 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time

The thing with crypto though is that the market is very young, we are just relying in a data that is like only 10 years old.

And with that small data, the only conclusion we have is that the market works in cycle, every 4 years, and it will be followed by a long bearish crypto winter.

That's why many are predicting that after the super bullish run we have last year and hopefully this December, sooner or later a bear market will reappear in the early quarter of 2022. There's nothing wrong with preparing ourselves for the eventually.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: zonefloor on November 06, 2021, 08:09:29 PM
No one really knows what will happen. Elephants are kicking and mice are following the elephants. In short, whatever the elephants say, the market will move in that direction. But according to what people say and if what they say is true, a magnificent rise is expected like December. There are rumors that such a rise has never been seen before. As I said, these are all rumors, but we will watch and see what happens.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: SUPERSAIAN on November 06, 2021, 09:07:44 PM
There's certainly a cycle in the market for cryptocurrencies, but no one really knows the timing of it. Like the majority, I think there will be a bear season in the first quarter of 2022. In fact, this season lasted even longer because the corrections took a long time. Everything happened so fast in 2017. Everyone should have an exit strategy.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: coco23 on November 07, 2021, 12:23:43 PM
according to the cycle repeat chart we are now very close to the top with another +25% ahead of us and then we'll see a down/side trend until 2024.
(see here: https://stats.buybitcoinworldwide.com/cycle-repeat/ (https://stats.buybitcoinworldwide.com/cycle-repeat/))

I don't think that history will repeat like this exactly. We might see a few more months of bull market, but towards the second half of 2022 the cycle will probably end...


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: cheezcarls on November 07, 2021, 12:34:16 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time

From what I’ve understand about the bull cycle of 2017, the market isn’t matured that time and it’s more on the ICO (initial coin offering) hype. Although I am still thankful of the big bull run last 2017 (especially that it’s the glory days of airdrops and bounty programs), the following year was a disaster due to uncertainty and more bad news from the regulators.

The 2021 bull run for me was healthier this time because more institutions are investing into cryptcurrencies, Paypal adding cryptocurrencies, El Salvador made Bitcoin a legal tender, etc.

I don’t know what the future holds for the following year, but I believe the crypto market has already matured than before. But always expect the unexpected. Just be prepared guys!


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: yohananaomi on November 07, 2021, 04:15:40 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
it seems that what happened in 2017 has started to differ from the predictions that occurred in 2021, because at the end of October it should have increased in the range of 47.81%, it could only be achieved in the range of 39.93%, it is clear that there is a decrease not an increase compared to 2017. This is certainly a prediction that is beyond expectations. expected and awaited.

is it possible in november will be achieved? Of course we have to see again at the end of the month. in 2017 an increase in the range of 53.48%. but at the beginning of November, there were minuses, not positives. so it seems that if you want there to be a good movement then bitcoin will need a push to be able to reach the same target as 2017. is it possible to happen? it's hard to guess because the trend of bitcoin's increase seems to have started to object.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: blatchcorn on November 07, 2021, 05:03:51 PM
Since nobody can predict what will happen in the next few weeks and months, but if we follow what majority are saying, November is a bullish month in crypto and particularly this November is very bullish (according to some source so if this is going to be the case, it is better to get prepared than to be left behind,
From now till q1 2022 things can go either ways, but I feel before the bear market comes, the market will go up. In any case am prepared for either one.

Well that's true. Nobody can predict crypto market behavior for coming week or month, there are only rumors and speculations. 2017 bull run lasted for few weeks only while 2021 bull run continuous for almost a year. So we cant compare 2017 with 2021 at first. Seeing the stability in price of BTC it seems like coming month of Dec will also be bullish. But we need to keep one-thing in mind that market always take correction after massive bull run, so be prepared for that correction and plan accordingly.   


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 08, 2021, 12:28:37 AM
The truth could not make a comparison of 2021 with 2017, the reason is simple, in 2017 we were not in a pandemic, nor was so many job options closed in the world, nor was there a confinement that did not allow the development of many things, also the Circumstances unrelated to the pandemic in 2017 were very different from 2021, it could be said that the year 2021 is developing very differently from 2017, in 2017 the altcoin season was already active, meanwhile it is currently unknown if it will be activated or not , also investors in 2017 for BTC are not the same as for 2021, this time investors are doing things very differently.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: asriloni on November 08, 2021, 02:29:27 AM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017?
We may expect the different thing to happen. So many things have been changed in crypto since 2017 like massive bought by institutional investors and legal tender by several countries for bitcoin. That makes bitcoin very strong right now. There are lots of people have been speculating the price of crypto to go to the bottom again but it was not happening. Their prediction to think that if these days have gone since last quarter but they are predicting something that is unpredictable. The market has been getting even better since el Salvador was announcing to make bitcoin as legal tender and that gives very big exposure to the big companies. The major company like facbook was also going for metaverse.
There will be more and more companies will think if they should not have missed the best chance to join in the trend. 2022 will become a big year for crypto. More and more people adopting crypto at the same time.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Strongkored on November 08, 2021, 03:44:47 AM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
Everything is just a prediction and many believe that history will repeat itself but it will not be exactly the same, especially in crypto there will always be many predictions either because they see the movement or because they see the development of the many large institutions that are starting to adopt crypto. The bull run will always depend on BTC price for BTC miners will getting less and less rewards so the predictions say the price will soar.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Farma on November 08, 2021, 05:26:21 AM
well, i even think that the potential of bitcoin or crypto in 2017. i even think that the development potential of crypto nowadays is much bigger. the thing that makes me think that way is what's behind bitcoin at the moment. many big investors and even the state have started to recognize it. although so far I'm just preparing altcoins and waiting for it to pump. however, I think that the price will be getting higher every day due to new adoption from big people, or big companies in the world.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: takngantuk on November 08, 2021, 06:02:17 AM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time

The situation is very different from 2017, here's what you should know. this year and next year will be very different from previous years. the bulls will still continue, so the first quarter of next year is not the end of the current trend. many experts predict that next year will remain the year for crypto. The nft hype will be the one that will have an influence on the market trend. This is the difference compared to the previous year.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: asyakashi on November 08, 2021, 07:02:23 AM
Yes, we always expect 2017 to be back this year, even better. Of course bearish will come back, it could happen in early 2022. However, there has not been seen something that makes a sign of a bearish market soon to arrive. Before that happens, this is a great time for many to make a profit from a positive market.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: TheMimic1 on November 08, 2021, 07:27:43 AM
November is always a bullish month for crypto space but don't judge this year with 2017 charts cos I believe all eye are on crypto right now, way different from that of 2017, now we have more people that have more understanding about crypto, in fact I believe that this bull season will last longer


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Mpamaegbu on November 08, 2021, 04:33:22 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022
For starters, I'm one of those few who are expecting a serious dip at the end of first quarters of 2022. But that dip won't be for Bitcoin, it's for alts. I expect Bitcoin to start its dip in December of 2021, going be the antecedent of 2017. However, I know this incoming bear run of 2022 won't be anything close to what we experienced in 2017 because cryptocurrencies now have institutional investors. The panic sell won't be like individuals selling off. Institutions always have a long term frame when it comes to investments. If their planned sell off isn't for 2022, the institutions won't sell and that will help cushion the effect of mad rush for dump. BTW, didn't anyone notice that the total marketcap of cryptos according to data from Coingecko just got over $3 trillion today?


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: otreza on November 08, 2021, 04:35:43 PM
2021 is nothing like 2017 in terms of trading volumes and prices. Now the bubble has inflated much more, the growth is bigger, and the market will fall much harder.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: yhiaali3 on November 08, 2021, 04:49:47 PM
Given the various opinions I have seen and the analyzes I read and follow on a daily basis, I can say that this bullish wave will be the last before the bears come and we will not see another bullish wave for about 3 years, but there is something that makes me think that maybe the cycle will be different this time from the previous ones, Many factors and variables entered the Bitcoin market and influence it strongly, and there are other invisible factors as well. All this makes me think that maybe something will happen that will surprise everyone this time. Of course, this is just a feeling and not based on accurate analyzes and information.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Sweetbtc on November 08, 2021, 04:58:27 PM
2021 is going same as 2017. October month chat is same 2017 and also November is same bulish like 2017 and if same history repeat than we can see 100k easily here. And today price show that its going same as 2017 and will break soon ATH


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Bitbtc8 on November 08, 2021, 05:59:46 PM
Be smart and still plan yourself ahead, it's a must for the market to crash at one point so I won't be betting on the fact that this year bull run is stronger, yes it's stronger but still won't stop bear market from occuring so let's the prepared, be safer than sorry


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Alanaz on November 08, 2021, 06:08:30 PM
I don't really care whether 2022 will be the same as 2017 or not, but what is certain is that the current bullish effect, especially October and November, will make a good move for crypto because even now bitcoin has almost reached its ath which was predicted by most of it will happen by the end of the year.
on the other hand we are also seeing a surge from altcoins such as bnb which is also close to reaching their ath and eth which is progressing steadily.
I don't really care if they'll be the same when I see something like this but I'm pretty sure something like this will come.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: RealMalatesta on November 08, 2021, 06:40:43 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
There are experts who start speculating about the delay of bear markets than what we have seen in the past. It means we might be having continuation of bull market even in the next year. So, there will be a lot of differences between what we have seen in 2017 and this year's bull run. It would be better if your plan up and be prepared for such kind of changes in the nature of cycle of bitcoin markets. Because Bitcoin market is the base of all altcoins markets. So, once you are able to predict the direction of bitcoin market then you can easily make profit from other altcoins markets.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: triat on November 08, 2021, 06:57:38 PM
2021 is going same as 2017. October month chat is same 2017 and also November is same bulish like 2017 and if same history repeat than we can see 100k easily here. And today price show that its going same as 2017 and will break soon ATH
I think so too. But now there are several points that will not allow to do the same as it was in 2017. The fact that Eth is being fired in such large quantities makes it scarce. Through this, I do not think that we will fly down like in 2017.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Jackl87 on November 08, 2021, 08:11:29 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time

I also think that we can not expect that 2021 will be just like 2017 because just because it was that way back then does not mean at all that it will be like that again this year. I think that the growth of 2021 and was way more natural and healthy that it was back in 2018 in January where every coin shot up like crazy for only a few days in january and of course afterwards there had to be a sharp drop. Now with this much more healthy growth i don't think that there has to be another bear market again, maybe a period of sideways movement or a normal correction where prices go down like 10-20% but no -99% declines like in 2018.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: adamantasaurus on November 08, 2021, 08:14:06 PM
there will be an 85% pullback there is no doubt in my mind about that. Now how long it will last or when exactly it will happen that really is something that can't totally be predicted.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: shinratensei_ on November 08, 2021, 10:07:29 PM
So many traders actually always expect the bullrun to be the same as in 2017 by simply looking at the market chart and if they found any similarities within the chart showed then they will think as if the market gonna move exactly the same as it was in 2017 but if all the traders doing the same analyzation and made the same final conclusion that the chart will move exactly like in the past then it will move like that since they themselves make that analyzation comes true. However, I think there are traders who think that this year, the market will have a big bullrun because there is so much hype for the NFT mostly for gaming and also the fans of meme coins that make the situation become a lot more hype than 2017, it could be different this year and maybe will have a big bullrun but take it with grain of salt.
You can look at bitcoin chart. We are still in the beginning of bullrun. The real pump has not yet come.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: nur rochid on November 08, 2021, 10:27:12 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time

I also think that we can not expect that 2021 will be just like 2017 because just because it was that way back then does not mean at all that it will be like that again this year. I think that the growth of 2021 and was way more natural and healthy that it was back in 2018 in January where every coin shot up like crazy for only a few days in january and of course afterwards there had to be a sharp drop. Now with this much more healthy growth i don't think that there has to be another bear market again, maybe a period of sideways movement or a normal correction where prices go down like 10-20% but no -99% declines like in 2018.
The market situation will always be dynamic, I personally also did not think that this year we have experienced 2 new ATH formations, and the end of this year has not been completed, maybe there will also be a surprise at the end of this year, and what I see now, people's trust is getting higher and higher. That's what keeps the market from crashing until now


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: RussianEnglishTranslation on November 09, 2021, 08:10:51 AM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
David Schwartz seems to think that BTC will top out at 120k. Personally, I'm a yield farmer, so I don't try and time the market, I just farm on Ref Finance. All my assets are tied up in farming pools.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: 19Nov16 on November 09, 2021, 08:58:21 AM
2021 is going same as 2017. October month chat is same 2017 and also November is same bulish like 2017 and if same history repeat than we can see 100k easily here. And today price show that its going same as 2017 and will break soon ATH

After bitcoin reached $19k at that time too much FUD that made investors immediately sell and make the market drop, but now the market conditions are strong so 2021 can be better than 2017 and I'm sure in december the price of btc will reach $100k and if it drops then it won't under $75k.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: jeungo on November 09, 2021, 10:18:16 AM
The fact that the cycle has a beginning and an end should be clear to everyone, and the situation will repeat itself exactly, the main question is how much after a trend change will fall, and how many players will be able to fix in the profit zone, although now a fall may occur, but there will be no panic.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Kodok Bencot on November 09, 2021, 10:28:07 AM
There are similarities between 2017 and 2021, if we look at the chart then I'm sure the end of the year or December the market will skyrocket, I believe many altcoins will reach high positions and ethereum will pass more than $ 5000 and BNB can pass $ 850.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: eXtremal on November 09, 2021, 11:10:50 AM
Stocks are very different from cryptocurrencies. Here also has a trend with the intervention of people who have large capital in the market. We call it the whales. Cryptocurrencies are determined based on trends created by large financiers is the main thing. The second is from the news brought about by the hyped project. In fact, when one expects the first quarter of 2022 to be a bear market it's not necessarily the case. We usually rely on telegram channels
 and technical to find out when the market bears.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: oemar bakrie on November 09, 2021, 11:41:41 AM
a very significant difference from the past with now only the number of new tokens popping up
and many people already know what the future of crypto is like, with that many people take the wrong way because the future of crypto is very promising..
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Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: susuberuang on November 09, 2021, 11:48:26 AM
There are similarities between 2017 and 2021, if we look at the chart then I'm sure the end of the year or December the market will skyrocket, I believe many altcoins will reach high positions and ethereum will pass more than $ 5000 and BNB can pass $ 850.
I don't even see the situation this year is the same as the market situation in 2017, because the values are very much different and also through the Charts have a lot of differences, because it's not just about increasing, but about how fast everything is moving and from what value everything is moving


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: RealMalatesta on November 09, 2021, 05:39:05 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
The biggest difference is that when we are talking about 2017 we are talking about 2018 as well, there was a great increase, the start of the year in 2017 was around 700 bucks whereas the end was around 20k and that is a huge increase, but in 2018 it became as low as 3.5k and that should tell you how much of a big trouble came afterwards.

This year however we had a huge increase, broke over the previous ATH and then we reached to a new one at 64k and then we dropped, just like 2018 but it took only 3-4 months to be low and then we reached to 67k once again, so instead of a horrible fall and wait years to get back, we literally had only a few months there.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: wxa7115 on November 09, 2021, 06:36:57 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
There is not any guarantee that things are going to work out exactly as they did in the past, if anything I think there is almost a guarantee this is not going to be the case.

So we need to wonder how things are going to turn out? On the worst case scenario there is not a bull run at the end of this year and we see an immediate correction, while on the best case scenario we are in the presence of a super cycle and bitcoin keeps growing for the majority of 2022, so what are we going to see? No one knows, but we better prepare for every single scenario that we can imagine.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: mdzahed134 on November 09, 2021, 07:27:38 PM
There are similarities between 2017 and 2021, if we look at the chart then I'm sure the end of the year or December the market will skyrocket, I believe many altcoins will reach high positions and ethereum will pass more than $ 5000 and BNB can pass $ 850.
How did you find the similarities? But right now mostly thinking history will be repeated like as back in 2017. But in crypto it’s quite difficult to make sure what will happen in near future. I am expecting within end of this year BTC can hit 70k$, ETH 5k$ most possible and BNB 1k$. But in the begging of 2022 we can't predict.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: FloridaKid on November 09, 2021, 07:32:56 PM
Things will work out differently this time because the demand of crypto in 2021 is way bigger than that of 2017, huge institutions are into crypto right now and it's growing faster than the past so things will be different, even if bear market happens it won't last long like that of 2018 and 2019


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: coinzzzpro on November 10, 2021, 01:20:27 PM
Back in 2017, blockchains shot up; this year, NFT and Defi shot up. And the most generous projects win (Uniswap, 1inch) they are not stingy with airdrops. Greedy projects lose because they do not have a loyal community.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: lvsca on November 10, 2021, 01:27:18 PM
Even in 2021 it has exceeded 2017. We are always wary of a bearish market. However, lately there is no news or sign from the chart that indicates that the beginning of 2021 will be a negative market. As long as I can enjoy the current profits, I always try to make a profit from short-term trading and buy good coins for the long term. My prediction is that in early 2021 we will experience a considerable correction.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Labro on November 10, 2021, 01:34:56 PM
All i know from 2014 to now the best would be to just hodl whenever you can, dont sell, dont be a fool.
nfa


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: otreza on November 10, 2021, 01:36:50 PM
Even in 2021 it has exceeded 2017. We are always wary of a bearish market. However, lately there is no news or sign from the chart that indicates that the beginning of 2021 will be a negative market. As long as I can enjoy the current profits, I always try to make a profit from short-term trading and buy good coins for the long term. My prediction is that in early 2021 we will experience a considerable correction.

The year 2021 is already coming to an end )))
In 2022 there will be a boom in NFT projects. Even Tarantino started to use this opportunity. But things are much more complicated and the big players have gotten into the game. The stakes are very high, if the market falls, it will pull many other assets with it. And El Salvador's economy will suffer because BTC is part of the country's budget.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: wxa7115 on November 15, 2021, 08:16:59 PM
Things will work out differently this time because the demand of crypto in 2021 is way bigger than that of 2017, huge institutions are into crypto right now and it's growing faster than the past so things will be different, even if bear market happens it won't last long like that of 2018 and 2019
Another factor that is completely different than what we saw back then in 2017 is the state of the economy itself, right now there are fears among the population about whether or not the economy is going to recover, and this means they are looking for alternative investment which are not part of the traditional system to protect themselves in the case of a crash.

Gold and Silver have always been a good way to protect yourself in times of economic uncertainty but now Bitcoin and the market of cryptocurrencies in general is also part of this conversation, making more unlikely the possibility of a crash at the end of this year.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: jostorres on November 15, 2021, 08:36:34 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
Not just this cryptocurrency market but all kind of markets are known for surprising us with unexpected things. So, we cannot remind 100% sure that bear market is going to happen from the first quarter of next year. I mean anything could happen but we need to to plan up accordingly rather than having some predefined plans which may not be suitable as per future market conditions.

I am expecting to have longer bull run this time compared to what we had in the previous bull run of bitcoin market. Bitcoin market must be the base of all cryptocurrency hence we need to follow how bitcoin is doing and then we may decide about altcoin stash.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: TelolettOm on November 15, 2021, 09:43:32 PM
It seems like that in this period, the bullrun doesn't happen in very skyrocket very quickly. But there are some steps of the bullish era for Bitcoin and also altcoins. Sometimes, there are still some market corrections in order to rise up higher again. But the rise may not as high as previous in 2017. And let's see whether the altcoin season will really happen in the end of this year like the previous bullish in 2017 or will start at the beginning of the next year.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: nelson4lov on November 15, 2021, 09:54:02 PM
It seems like that in this period, the bullrun doesn't happen in very skyrocket very quickly. But there are some steps of the bullish era for Bitcoin and also altcoins. Sometimes, there are still some market corrections in order to rise up higher again. But the rise may not as high as previous in 2017. And let's see whether the altcoin season will really happen in the end of this year like the previous bullish in 2017 or will start at the beginning of the next year.

I don't know but I feel like the market is more bullish than it was in 2017. At that time, we didn't have all the institutional investors and without mainstream coverage. So we're doing a lot better than 2017 even the market isn't increasing its value rapidly as with in 2017. Sometimes , slow and steady wins it.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Smitty Werben Man Jensen on November 15, 2021, 10:09:11 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
I have been and experienced where in 2017 Bitcoin experienced a high increase and high Fomo,
yes, this year I think it is very different, because in 2021 mass adoption at a high level is very visible,
such as Tesla, Twitter, and Facebook which plunged into the  crypto world, not only them, Paypal has also joined this mass adoption,
yeah! 2021 vs 2017? of course very different friends!


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: btc_angela on November 15, 2021, 11:23:04 PM
It seems like that in this period, the bullrun doesn't happen in very skyrocket very quickly. But there are some steps of the bullish era for Bitcoin and also altcoins. Sometimes, there are still some market corrections in order to rise up higher again. But the rise may not as high as previous in 2017. And let's see whether the altcoin season will really happen in the end of this year like the previous bullish in 2017 or will start at the beginning of the next year.

That's one, there's no parabolic rise, others might be happy to see that kind of increase because obviously they are going to make good profits. But that is a sign of much worst thing that can come in the future, like what we've seen at December 2017, we reached all time high, but after that it's 3 years of crypto winter. So it's better that this 2021 rise will not be as dramatic as 2017, although we are expecting at least 6 digits, I hope it can be delayed in the first quarter of 2022. Slow and steady rise wins the game here.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: nitin8263 on November 16, 2021, 04:23:57 AM
2017 was very different from the 2021, in 2017 there were no so much Altcoins as compare to 2021 and in 2017 and now the price of Btc & Eth is too high then 2017 and this time many of new investors are taking interest.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: aprilnot on November 16, 2021, 10:56:07 AM
Things will work out differently this time because the demand of crypto in 2021 is way bigger than that of 2017, huge institutions are into crypto right now and it's growing faster than the past so things will be different, even if bear market happens it won't last long like that of 2018 and 2019
Another factor that is completely different than what we saw back then in 2017 is the state of the economy itself, right now there are fears among the population about whether or not the economy is going to recover, and this means they are looking for alternative investment which are not part of the traditional system to protect themselves in the case of a crash.

Gold and Silver have always been a good way to protect yourself in times of economic uncertainty but now Bitcoin and the market of cryptocurrencies in general is also part of this conversation, making more unlikely the possibility of a crash at the end of this year.

yes you are right, the situation where everyone doubts whether the economy will recover or not is a plus for the crypto market. bitcoin is an alternative investment after the recent pandemic. and this is the difference compared to 2017. and don't forget about the NFT hype, many people who were not familiar with crypto are getting interested because of NFT. The current NFT ecosystem is very strong, and it looks like the hype will continue for some time to come. There are a lot of positives right now, and all of them will prevent a situation like 2017 from happening.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: michellee on November 16, 2021, 12:53:31 PM
2017 was very different from the 2021, in 2017 there were no so much Altcoins as compare to 2021 and in 2017 and now the price of Btc & Eth is too high then 2017 and this time many of new investors are taking interest.
The big difference between 2017 and 2021 is bitcoin price can reach $68k as the highest price, although the price now gets a correction and down to $60k while ethereum is following to go down to $4,200. I believe that both bitcoin and ethereum will increase in these two months or next year again but we must have more patience following the prices. Yes, many new investors are attracted to the cryptocurrency now and they already bought many bitcoins at the beginning of this year. So crypto has a bright future more than we can expect because more investors will follow the previous investors.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: dupee419 on November 16, 2021, 01:23:06 PM
Aside from the market being bearish, the price difference between 2017 and 2021, aside from those I have mentioned, the biggest difference today and then is that more investors are interested investing in crypto compared to investing in banks and start-up projects IRL, investors prefer going crypto since they know how big the profit is in crypto, also, social media has changed throughout the 4-year mark, it is much easier nowadays to promote your coins as there are so many platforms to choose from, the difference back then and now is that there are fewer platforms back then compared to today's crypto market.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Lubang Bawah on November 16, 2021, 02:20:32 PM
Back in 2017, blockchains shot up; this year, NFT and Defi shot up. And the most generous projects win (Uniswap, 1inch) they are not stingy with airdrops. Greedy projects lose because they do not have a loyal community.

I believe the current market conditions are very strong and the market will not crash again after 2017, the market skyrocketed in 2017 because of the many successful projects during the ICO, even many projects that could achieve a hardcap of up to $100 million only when presale or less than a month, while Now the market is skyrocketing due to the large number of big companies and millionaires investing in crypto.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: wxa7115 on November 20, 2021, 08:35:20 PM
Things will work out differently this time because the demand of crypto in 2021 is way bigger than that of 2017, huge institutions are into crypto right now and it's growing faster than the past so things will be different, even if bear market happens it won't last long like that of 2018 and 2019
Another factor that is completely different than what we saw back then in 2017 is the state of the economy itself, right now there are fears among the population about whether or not the economy is going to recover, and this means they are looking for alternative investment which are not part of the traditional system to protect themselves in the case of a crash.

Gold and Silver have always been a good way to protect yourself in times of economic uncertainty but now Bitcoin and the market of cryptocurrencies in general is also part of this conversation, making more unlikely the possibility of a crash at the end of this year.

yes you are right, the situation where everyone doubts whether the economy will recover or not is a plus for the crypto market. bitcoin is an alternative investment after the recent pandemic. and this is the difference compared to 2017. and don't forget about the NFT hype, many people who were not familiar with crypto are getting interested because of NFT. The current NFT ecosystem is very strong, and it looks like the hype will continue for some time to come. There are a lot of positives right now, and all of them will prevent a situation like 2017 from happening.
Without a doubt the market of NFTs is strong however we must not forget that back in the day we had icos and they looked to be as strong if not stronger than the NFT market, and yet the ico market crashed hard and it never recovered, and while things like ieos and other forms to raise fund eventuality appeared they never reached the popularity that icos had back then.

So it is important to recognize that fact and understand that most of the time hype moves those markets and once a correction or a crash comes those that are the markets that will suffer the most, bringing down anyone that is invested in those kind of projects with them.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: sulendra12 on November 20, 2021, 09:02:56 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
It's already much better than in 2017 in terms of.the hype and the time the hype is still exist. I am actually surprised to see in 2021, we havent seen any major crash and people often becomes more hype with new things that they found. But still, just prepare for any caution and big moves in christmas and holiday later, we might see something there.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: sana54210 on November 20, 2021, 09:14:40 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
Market is always known for not getting us what we are expecting in general. So, this time also we must need to get ready for big surprises like what we have experienced by the times of end of 2017 (like people were speculating about getting into $10k by end of 4th week of December 2017 but we got up to $19.5k by 2nd week of December 2017).

This time there are a lot of possibilities of continuous and of bull bun into upcoming year as well. This must be one of the non-speculated surprise we could expect from bitcoin market but not sure what future got to unfold for all of us with respect to bitcoin markets.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Balmain on November 20, 2021, 09:45:03 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
There is no need to compare these 2 different time periods. If the majority thinks that there will be a bear market in Q1 2022, then this may not happen. There is still a lot of positive news to come out on the ecosystems of Ethereum, Polkadot, Solana, Cardano, etc.
  And it will not necessarily be in a sary scenario with the movement of liquidity from bitcoins to altcoins.

There are similar cycles in cryptocurrencies, yes it is true. But as you said, there are many projects that develop their networks today, when I look at the roadmap of all of them, I see that there is a long way to go. This year's bull run is unlike any before. There is a market that attracts the attention of corporate companies and even governments. There have been various developments for this market. NFTs in particular have a lot of hype


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: FanEagle on November 20, 2021, 10:15:14 PM
There are similar cycles in cryptocurrencies, yes it is true. But as you said, there are many projects that develop their networks today, when I look at the roadmap of all of them, I see that there is a long way to go. This year's bull run is unlike any before. There is a market that attracts the attention of corporate companies and even governments. There have been various developments for this market. NFTs in particular have a lot of hype
If there are similar things are happening in this crypto space then how and why shitcoins are also being created? I mean devs must learn from others mistake and should avoid going for same type of coins as usually repeated/copy-craps are becoming shitcoins over the time. So, if devs are careful enough then they could serve us in fruitful way rather than just by having intention of scamming investors of this crypto space.

We need to agree that repeating of trend is happening in this crypto world in all kind of ways which is not limited to only progressive things. It means even scams also happening in repeated manner which must be a worrying sign for all crypto investors in all sense.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: letyouearn on November 21, 2021, 12:25:29 AM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time

Well, I am very optimistic this time and the reason is mostly - huge dollar emission and crisis of offline business and investments we are seeing in 2020-2021. Also I think we are very close to mass adoption and real implementing of crypto in our lives. The future is near and this time this bubble can reach very high levels. BTC can hit 500K easily. Imho.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: MadeMen on November 21, 2021, 01:25:01 AM
The cryptocurrency industry is quite unpredictable, the 2017 bull run should not be a yardstick for predictions as several things have changed in the past two years. Many more people are involved in the cryptocurrency space and the market capitalisation has increased significantly. It's best to unlearn the market situation of 2017 and approach the market with a new perspective.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Shasha80 on November 21, 2021, 01:48:43 AM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time

Well, I am very optimistic this time and the reason is mostly - huge dollar emission and crisis of offline business and investments we are seeing in 2020-2021. Also I think we are very close to mass adoption and real implementing of crypto in our lives. The future is near and this time this bubble can reach very high levels. BTC can hit 500K easily. Imho.

If we compare what happened in 2017 with what happened this year, it is indeed different. Investors who joined this year were already fully
prepared, because they learned from what happened in 2017. Nowadays most investors are much more patient with volatile price movements
in the market, while in 2017 there was panic after the market crash. So when the price of Bitcoin managed to reach ATH, then experienced
a correction below the price of $60k, not many investors panic. Because they know Bitcoin will only go down temporarily and will come back up again.
Moreover, in 2021 there will also be quite a number of institutions joining, this makes the popularity of crypto increase and makes trust in crypto
increase. Even now there are countries that have legalized Bitcoin as a legal tender, meaning that the adoption process is quite massive.
With so many positive things that have happened this year, I don't think it's possible this year to repeat what happened in 2017.
 


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: dvndr007 on November 21, 2021, 02:53:13 AM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
See after bull run bear is more predictable & expectations always hurt so we should not expect let it flow & flow with the flow is the right choice.
There maybe obstacles in between so with alert mind we just have to flow.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Kemarit on November 21, 2021, 03:12:07 AM
The cryptocurrency industry is quite unpredictable, the 2017 bull run should not be a yardstick for predictions as several things have changed in the past two years. Many more people are involved in the cryptocurrency space and the market capitalisation has increased significantly. It's best to unlearn the market situation of 2017 and approach the market with a new perspective.

Yeah, but at least we should look at how the cookie crumble during 2017. The market is still immature back then, well you can say that there are a lot of noobs that time who think that the price will continue to grow despite signs that we are in a bubble already.

Anyhow, here we go again, we are in the period of bull run and eventually it will have to burst. But let's see, maybe the crypto market has change a lot since then, we've learn from our mistakes.

And then Bitcoin's narrative is also different from 2017. Now it become more of a store of value and then we have institutions and government to back the market up.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Cling18 on November 21, 2021, 07:47:37 AM
Bitcoin have actually exceeded the market situation last 2017 and I guess we've already learned from the previous decisions that we have made. Investors and traders have learned how to take advantage of the market and I guess, just like Bitcoin, we're now matured and ready to adopt the changes of the market. 2021 is like a roller coaster ride for crypto yet I could say that it's better than 2017.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Farma on November 21, 2021, 07:57:46 AM
Bitcoin have actually exceeded the market situation last 2017 and I guess we've already learned from the previous decisions that we have made. Investors and traders have learned how to take advantage of the market and I guess, just like Bitcoin, we're now matured and ready to adopt the changes of the market. 2021 is like a roller coaster ride for crypto yet I could say that it's better than 2017.
well, 2017 has taught us a lot about the decisions we will make. I'm sure, quite a lot of people have made the wrong decision since this time, and that includes me.
this year is definitely very different. The bitcoin price level which is still very high today is evidence of the difference in popularity, functionality, and adoption rates of bitcoin from 2017. In 2017, the bitcoin price was supported by ICOs, and several well-known investors. however, at present, even some countries have accepted and made regulations regarding it. however, today is really very different from 2017. this year, the bitcoin price is very strong.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: smartaction on November 21, 2021, 09:22:58 AM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
October November December is generally is bullish market. But we don’t know what will happen in 1st quarter in 2022. But i think that time will not be as bad effect on cryptocurrency as before 2017


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: ahoenk on November 21, 2021, 04:25:43 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time


I was thinking its really like 2017 but now i realised its not exactly like 2017, the bull market will last longer then we think, and the reason i said this is because we are on different situatiin now because of covid 19. Our bull market was comes earlier and will last longer. I expect it will last at the mid - end of 2022 not early 2022


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: btc_angela on November 21, 2021, 09:17:56 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
October November December is generally is bullish market. But we don’t know what will happen in 1st quarter in 2022. But i think that time will not be as bad effect on cryptocurrency as before 2017

It's imminent, a bearish market will have to eventually knock on our doors so we have to be prepared.

I don't want this to be compared to 2017 though, it's a different market now, we are now in a 'come of age' market, we have a lot of investors individuals or group of people who are willing to pour a lot of money because they are afraid of the collapse of fiat or the inflation rate.

So yes, this time it will be different, it may come, but it will be a slow bearish market and not that abrupt, in my opinion.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: justdimin on November 21, 2021, 09:35:53 PM
I was thinking its really like 2017 but now i realised its not exactly like 2017, the bull market will last longer then we think, and the reason i said this is because we are on different situatiin now because of covid 19. Our bull market was comes earlier and will last longer. I expect it will last at the mid - end of 2022 not early 2022
It has already lasted a lot longer, imagine how in 2017 we had maybe 1 month with insane increases and that's it, even during January we broke that and in February we kept going up and it just kept going higher and higher, even with a huge 50% crash we managed to recover that very easily and did another ATH after that.

So, it is clear that 2021 has been the best year in crypto history ever, maybe by % of increases it wasn't that much because we have seen bigger increases before, however by the "power" calculation we have never been this powerful.

I am very hopeful about the future of crypto because it looks like we are getting better and better eventually and every year looks like it is going to be easier and better in the future. I do not know why it took us this long to reach this level but I believe we will not be getting any lower from now on. Those under 10k prices are forever gone if you ask me, even under 20k seems illogical to reach after we come this far.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: karanggatak on November 21, 2021, 09:41:26 PM
value will always different, we can throw that one.
people will make big expectation, not only about grow, but how much they collected. every close to the of year, people will collect as much as they can, they have history, memory, to gain big profit.
different story can be created by many chance, and crypto have different thing. so, no one can predict exact whats going on.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: panduryk on November 21, 2021, 11:21:32 PM
hi hi hi guys!
im knowing about cryptocurrency from 2017 AUG u can see in when acc was created, and in 2019 as im remember im should stop coz have some other "work" in ethernet, and now im trying to returt in crypto world, im obviusly can say that now are more harder to follow news and learn about new crypto, like NFT, Defi, and so on. Im feel like old ppl  ;D ;D ;D Now im should louse a lot of time to learn smth new, id like it, but some times its hard and im dont have so much free time to learn  :(
On my opinion, 2021 it's heavier than 2017


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: wxa7115 on November 26, 2021, 07:09:53 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
It's already much better than in 2017 in terms of.the hype and the time the hype is still exist. I am actually surprised to see in 2021, we havent seen any major crash and people often becomes more hype with new things that they found. But still, just prepare for any caution and big moves in christmas and holiday later, we might see something there.
What happens is that there has been a fundamental change in the market that has prevented the crash, back in 2017 we thought that bitcoin was about to take the world by storm and the hype for this was tremendous, but it did not happen and the crash that came after it was legendary.

However after just 4 years bitcoin seems way more ready to actually go through this as the economy is way weaker, the inflation is raising and the covid pandemic is not going away with new variants being discovered all the time, and in this kind of uncertainty bitcoin can thrive, which is exactly what we have been seeing during the last year.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: magneto on November 26, 2021, 07:14:46 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time

Don't try to time the market. Simply not going to work.

Fact of the matter is that we are probably going to see an adjustment in the alt market soon, but no one knows exactly when. But bitcoin dominance is very low and the market cap of alts have absolutely exploded over the past year, so we are certainly due for a correction.

The difference now is that there is a whole lot more institutional adoption especially on chains like ETH, so make sure that you hold tight to your coins and don't weak-hands it.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: UDONNA on November 26, 2021, 07:46:20 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time
Times change, the river does not flow the same way twice. The crypto realm has matured and gained strong support over the years. Those strong investors who have invested their large capitals in cryptocurrencies absolutely do not need a prolonged nervous fall. We will follow the trends. We do not sell, we hold and we believe in the best.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Rengga Jati on November 26, 2021, 09:51:44 PM
For some reason the October-December push is always fenominal with BTC.
Yes, it wil be the season for Bitcoin until the end of the year. And altocin seasons maybe in the beginning of the year.
but, today's market is very different, there are so many market corrections that will surprise.
Additionally, there are some conditions where some FUD are always spreading once Bitcoin price is started to rise up.
And yes, the cycle is little bit different with what happened in 2017 bullish era. '

Don't try to time the market. Simply not going to work.

Fact of the matter is that we are probably going to see an adjustment in the alt market soon, but no one knows exactly when. But bitcoin dominance is very low and the market cap of alts have absolutely exploded over the past year, so we are certainly due for a correction.
Exactly, we know how so many predictions are always explained about the time of bullish period, the price, the ATH of Bitcoin. But once more, prediction is a prediction where we need times to see it true or false,
And whatever the condition, just be ready with all condition of the market, not really high expectation for the bullish era, just ready for all market whether it is bullish or bearish.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Baofeng on November 26, 2021, 10:49:07 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time

Don't try to time the market. Simply not going to work.

Fact of the matter is that we are probably going to see an adjustment in the alt market soon, but no one knows exactly when. But bitcoin dominance is very low and the market cap of alts have absolutely exploded over the past year, so we are certainly due for a correction.

The difference now is that there is a whole lot more institutional adoption especially on chains like ETH, so make sure that you hold tight to your coins and don't weak-hands it.

True, bitcoin's narrative  in this bull run is that there are more institutional money as compare to 2017 wherein there are few and most are retail investors who are just first time in the market. So there's a lot of inexperienced in 2017 that's why the price just suddenly goes down in 2018 because majority have listen to FUD and panic sell. Now we have a lot of strong and diamond hands not willing to sell and on the flip side are going to buy during any dip.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: goinmerry on November 26, 2021, 11:08:48 PM
For all those preparing for the last bull run cycle what makes you think that things will work out exactly as that of 2017? Many are expecting bear market in 1st quarter of 2022 if there is anything that have surprised me since stock was a thing in my life it's cryptocurrency, things might work out differently this time

There's no exact preparation but at least we can picture out the things we need to do. Not just to what happened in 2017 but we already experience lots bear trend after a bull, bull trend after a bear and so on in the history of crypto.

Let's take those past happenings as our reference in our future actions. When there's a dip, don't hesitate to buy. Avoid the habit of just taking action when the price is now showing signs of an uptrend.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Google+ on November 26, 2021, 11:42:53 PM
Times change, the river does not flow the same way twice. The crypto realm has matured and gained strong support over the years. Those strong investors who have invested their large capitals in cryptocurrencies absolutely do not need a prolonged nervous fall. We will follow the trends. We do not sell, we hold and we believe in the best.
Holding on to the best is always good in crypto, even though it has been dumped in the market but overall everything will recover when there is very good news for all cryptocurrencies, I feel dumped at this point and still holding on to the best


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: nimogsm on November 26, 2021, 11:53:14 PM
Everything is very unpredictable here and it's so difficult to plan something lately.Today, the market is showing a negative result, perhaps this is a consequence of Black Friday) and it's hard to say anything about a protracted bear market, I think the community has become stronger over all this time and there will be no protracted cycles.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: UDONNA on November 30, 2021, 06:51:29 PM
Times change, the river does not flow the same way twice. The crypto realm has matured and gained strong support over the years. Those strong investors who have invested their large capitals in cryptocurrencies absolutely do not need a prolonged nervous fall. We will follow the trends. We do not sell, we hold and we believe in the best.
Holding on to the best is always good in crypto, even though it has been dumped in the market but overall everything will recover when there is very good news for all cryptocurrencies, I feel dumped at this point and still holding on to the best
And what else can we do but not continue to hold our strong coins, especially in a falling market after we missed the opportunity to sell them on time at the best price. This tactic makes us long-term investors from short-term speculators. :D


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: ije07 on November 30, 2021, 11:46:43 PM
This year's cycle is very different from 2017 where Crypto will experience a bull market in mid-December when the market is correcting and now it's December, maybe we can prepare funds to store assets and prepare that momentum to return and don't let us lose momentum like that in the end of this year. We can't predict all future events but we just try and hope it will happen again because right now so many investors have entered the Cryptocurrency world that this year's cycle will be very different from 2017.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: hodlftw on December 01, 2021, 12:57:53 AM
I think your assertion is correct and that things will workout differently this time. Look at what was happening in Q4 2017, massive growth in Bitcoin each month. That simply won't be the case, therefore this time is literally different already. That being said I think a blow off top could happen next month but seems highly unlikely (maybe 5%). Possible but unprovable. I expect 2021s run to mimic 2017s run only for the fact that I think we still test the 20wk MA more often in this second half of the trend.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Pandu Geddon on December 01, 2021, 01:19:57 AM
I don't follow the 2017 moment when I look at the market conditions then and this year. This looks like a different trend. so far this year the market looks stronger. different from the spike that occurred in 2017.
I hope there is no strong spike that will eventually create a negative trend. I think it would be safer if bitcoin growth later this year could be more stable and that could be an opportunity for altcoins to grow strong.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Botnake on December 01, 2021, 02:04:35 AM
I don't follow the 2017 moment when I look at the market conditions then and this year. This looks like a different trend. so far this year the market looks stronger. different from the spike that occurred in 2017.
I hope there is no strong spike that will eventually create a negative trend. I think it would be safer if bitcoin growth later this year could be more stable and that could be an opportunity for altcoins to grow strong.
Maybe there is really difference when it comes to market conditions but at the end of this year, i think we all have the same prediction that bitcoin will probably hit its new ATH this december just like what had happened way back 2017. Although the market is more stable this year compared last 2017 due to big institutions that are now supporting bitcoin, but it cannot be deny that the prices of crypto will still depend much on the market condition and sentiments. Hopefully, things will be good for bitcoin and for those main alts before this year ends so we can gain bigger profits in preparation for the bear season that will mostly likely to happen once bull run is over.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: Kasabus on December 01, 2021, 02:27:05 AM
This year's cycle is very different from 2017 where Crypto will experience a bull market in mid-December when the market is correcting and now it's December, maybe we can prepare funds to store assets and prepare that momentum to return and don't let us lose momentum like that in the end of this year. We can't predict all future events but we just try and hope it will happen again because right now so many investors have entered the Cryptocurrency world that this year's cycle will be very different from 2017.
Whatever the final outcome of crypto this year, either bullish or bearish by the end of this year, then we should all be prepared for it as we cannot foresee the future events correctly. I will be more glad if the crypto market will still end up having a bull run this year because its the most awaited moment for everyone of us so we can celebrate the holiday season merrily.

However, if the opposite thing will happen, i know it will saddened everyone but if we zoom it out, it will be the best opportunity to start accumulating bitcoin and altcoins with their cheap prices and by holding them for long term, we will be able to make good profits once the bull run is finally here. So this is still a win win scenario.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: rizqoAD on December 01, 2021, 02:32:30 AM
I think 2017 and 2021 will be different, because in 2017 there were so few cryptocurrency enthusiasts that at that time only people who were already in the crypto world who joined between 2015 and 2017 were benefiting from the rise in cryptocurrency prices. In 2017 all altcoin prices went up and many cryptocurrency projects were successful, almost all crypto markets were bullish. Whereas in 2021, even though the price of Bitcoin recorded a record high, it did not make all altcoin prices go up, especially for new altcoins which are quite difficult to rise.
Currently there are a lot of cryptocurrency users and the transaction value has hit a record high in history, I think in 2022 there will still be an upward trend in the price of Bitcoin and the already well-known altcoins but for new coins I think it is still quite difficult.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: dansus021 on December 01, 2021, 02:40:33 AM
one of my friend told me about this and he aware about future market crash like what happen on 2017 but for me usually december till january is still bul run i dont know if we are gonna touch new ATH but hope future bear not exist


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: bestcoins1 on December 01, 2021, 02:52:15 AM
I don't follow the 2017 moment when I look at the market conditions then and this year. This looks like a different trend. so far this year the market looks stronger. different from the spike that occurred in 2017.
I hope there is no strong spike that will eventually create a negative trend. I think it would be safer if bitcoin growth later this year could be more stable and that could be an opportunity for altcoins to grow strong.
When you say don't follow the moment in 2017, how do you know about the market boom in 2017 ? this is a little strange for me to understand even though you can see all the price charts in the market every year, but for this year if Bitcoin can grow again slowly then the Altcoins will also grow more than that in the market, so nothing bad for any price increase in the market due to price correction is normal afterward.


Title: Re: 2017 Vs 2021
Post by: andriarto on December 01, 2021, 04:10:16 AM
I don't follow the 2017 moment when I look at the market conditions then and this year. This looks like a different trend. so far this year the market looks stronger. different from the spike that occurred in 2017.
I hope there is no strong spike that will eventually create a negative trend. I think it would be safer if bitcoin growth later this year could be more stable and that could be an opportunity for altcoins to grow strong.
When you say don't follow the moment in 2017, how do you know about the market boom in 2017 ? this is a little strange for me to understand even though you can see all the price charts in the market every year, but for this year if Bitcoin can grow again slowly then the Altcoins will also grow more than that in the market, so nothing bad for any price increase in the market due to price correction is normal afterward.
a little picture of 2017, where the price of bitcoin soared sharply, but after that bitcoin experienced a sharp decline, until the FUD news seemed to haunt us all, even many economists said the bitcoin bubble, but it turns out that the accusation is not true, and we can see it today, after reaching a new peak there is a normal correction. maybe because now there are many people who understand bitcoin and can give hope for the future