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Title: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Jontokhan65 on November 09, 2021, 02:02:01 PM
At present we all want to finish our studies and get a good job. But when a man finishes his studies and wants to get a job, it is not easy for him to get the job. Again, some people take small jobs with some bribes from the leaders and then it is seen that the family does not survive with their small jobs because slowly the world is becoming digital and everything is more expensive.So if one takes initiative in advance then one can enjoy his life better. The job is to work under people, the business is to give people job under themselves and to help many helpless people.
So I hope your comments are good. Job or business..


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: jrrsparkles on November 09, 2021, 02:06:35 PM
Schools are manufacturing every students to be a good employees and the one who study well and score good grades may get decent jobs but look at the world and who are the employers they all are making money with your effort and get paid few pennies for it.

Business is always better but when it comes to business 9 out 10 won't survive even 2 years from their start up so be ready for the failures if you want to become a business man.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: BernyJB on November 09, 2021, 02:36:08 PM
I agree.
Most schools (I know of) teach you to be an employee. Very few (if any) teach you to be an entrepreneur.
If you measure success as "becoming filthy rich", a huge percentage of new businesses will fail, but if you consider your business as a way to get a stable job that depends mostly on yourself, I'd say most businesses are a resounding success. You just don't become a gazillionaire with them.
Getting a job is easier and faster, and when you finish school (you're usually broke), it's a bad solution to a bad problem.
Some (few) people are in a position to start a business, and some (few) will make a fortune out of it. That doesn't mean those that don't are "not successful" at what they do. It just means different people have different priorities, that's all.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Ucy on November 09, 2021, 02:52:54 PM
 The problem is that the schools train people to be money chaser or job seekers rather than problem solvers who use their talents to contribute to society. If schools were designed more to be where people develop their talents and use it correctly for the benefit of society, there won't be much people looking jobs or money because most will be well equipped to contribute. Just make sure you keep working hard and solving problems, and your reward will be guaranteed.  Doesn't matter if you own a business or working under people


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: bosede1 on November 09, 2021, 02:56:13 PM
The answer will be an individual thing, what is your aspiration in life? For me as an Economist student I aspire to work in a private organization and save enough for me to open my own Catering business. I do like both, but at my Fifties I would settle for business.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: naira on November 09, 2021, 03:04:06 PM
Work or Business?
two professions that have their own demands for each individual who wants to work or do business. This includes financial management. Your work is required by your superiors to complete tasks according to procedures and your position in a particular field. While doing business, you also of course have to follow the rules of doing business with people out there who invest their money in a program or project that you manage.

Between the two have the same target is sustainable profit. As for the difference if you want to do business, it means you have to start everything from scratch, build hard work with all the thinking needed to produce a business that at least has the traction that no one else has done. Simply put, the latest business, updated and also adapts to the times.

Another difference that is found in work is that you don't have to do hard work from zero, but you just become an errand boy for a certain company and do it according to company procedures. The point is you do not have the freedom to think broadly and enter your ideas without permission from the company.

The question is what matches the skills you have? What skills can you offer a company? What skills can make you build a business?
You just need to ask yourself that, because advice from a businessman will clearly advise you to do business, and advice from a worker will definitely advise you to work.

So which one fits your current characteristics?


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: josephdd1 on November 09, 2021, 03:19:33 PM
It is said that every ambitious person who wants to become financial free must set up his own business, but I don't think that everybody is capable of setting up his business. Nevertheless, I am sure that everybody can start investing or find any other ways to get passive income in addition to his work.
 So I think that everybody should decide on hiw own what suits him more, but in addition to this we should look for other ways to make money.  8)


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: sgenuine on November 09, 2021, 03:29:53 PM
I am studying now, and actually, I am getting a very demanded profession.I will become a programmer. I don't want to work as a programmer of web-sites or apps, but I am ambitious to become a blockchain developer and I hope I will start working on my own project with the team of other enthusiasts, so it looks like I am going to run my own business.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: avikz on November 09, 2021, 05:18:55 PM
At present we all want to finish our studies and get a good job. But when a man finishes his studies and wants to get a job, it is not easy for him to get the job. Again, some people take small jobs with some bribes from the leaders and then it is seen that the family does not survive with their small jobs because slowly the world is becoming digital and everything is more expensive.So if one takes initiative in advance then one can enjoy his life better. The job is to work under people, the business is to give people job under themselves and to help many helpless people.
So I hope your comments are good. Job or business..

Jobs and business are two different choices for two different mindset. If you want a life with stable income, you will choose job. But if you want a life which is riskier and more rewarding and also comes with ups and downs, you will choose business.

But there is another segment of people who chose both. During this pandemic time, a lot of servicemen have found time to setup their own businesses based in their hobbies. So they are continuing with both.

If you have the ability to take risk, you can definitely choose business. But if you want a stable income, choose job.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: fiulpro on November 09, 2021, 05:48:38 PM
At present we all want to finish our studies and get a good job. But when a man finishes his studies and wants to get a job, it is not easy for him to get the job. Again, some people take small jobs with some bribes from the leaders and then it is seen that the family does not survive with their small jobs because slowly the world is becoming digital and everything is more expensive.So if one takes initiative in advance then one can enjoy his life better. The job is to work under people, the business is to give people job under themselves and to help many helpless people.
So I hope your comments are good. Job or business..

Well the education is really competitive, one has to understand that in some countries, you cannot expect to get into a good university until and unless you pass your exam and that's why it's all dependent on your studies and education as well. Getting a job is actually very hard in countries who are developing, the current rising inflation is hard for some people since their jobs are also not consistent with the economic situation.

Therefore the best bit is investing in oneself, investing in your special skills which is something people must find out and explore, the small jobs might provide you with experience but the jobs consistent with your skills will provide you with immense opportunities for the future.

I heard a phrase *if you judge the fish by it's ability to climb a tree it would live it's whole life believing its stupid* therefore one has to recognize their inherit capacity and then look for the job. Which might be hard right now but you can always look for international one's online but that might only be beneficial for people who are well versed with computers therefore it's an essential skill at this point of time hands down.

I understand your point but we have to deal with it from the base up.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: BITCOIN4X on November 09, 2021, 06:10:45 PM
At present we all want to finish our studies and get a good job. But when a man finishes his studies and wants to get a job, it is not easy for him to get the job. Again, some people take small jobs with some bribes from the leaders and then it is seen that the family does not survive with their small jobs because slowly the world is becoming digital and everything is more expensive.So if one takes initiative in advance then one can enjoy his life better. The job is to work under people, the business is to give people job under themselves and to help many helpless people.
So I hope your comments are good. Job or business..
To become a formal employee working under government regulation you need a higher education, but you are not required to have a higher education if you are starting your own business. I finished my education 8 years ago and have only been working for the last 6 years. Yes I enjoyed a free life without any workload for almost 2 years after I finished my education before finally I had to work under government regulation due to economic factor.

Not everyone is able to build and manage their own business where the capital factor is the main problem. Being in a third country you can't do much because capital is the reason why most of us can't have our own business and run it. So, what's the problem?


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Vaskiy on November 09, 2021, 06:24:02 PM
Schools are manufacturing every students to be a good employees and the one who study well and score good grades may get decent jobs but look at the world and who are the employers they all are making money with your effort and get paid few pennies for it.
This is the common practice in most of the third world countries. Education has become a big business. In the past schools educate how to live. Nowadays education is much focused on how to earn. So, in school itself learning moral values, humanity, sharing everything gets stopped.
Business is always better but when it comes to business 9 out 10 won't survive even 2 years from their start up so be ready for the failures if you want to become a business man.
Businesses always have big risks and it isn't possible with common man. Because common man wants a life that gives him regular pay and peaceful atmosphere to spend. Businesses gives profit as well as loss, and for the same one needs to work more than a day job.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: dbc23 on November 09, 2021, 08:01:18 PM
Both jobs and business could be lucrative depending on the nature of job you are hired for and the kind of business as well. Most paid jobs are even more lucrative than owning a business everything boils down to the skill you are been hired for and how much the demand for such skills is daily alongside the solution gap it's filling up in industries


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Crypto Lion on November 09, 2021, 11:46:48 PM
At present we all want to finish our studies and get a good job. But when a man finishes his studies and wants to get a job, it is not easy for him to get the job. Again, some people take small jobs with some bribes from the leaders and then it is seen that the family does not survive with their small jobs because slowly the world is becoming digital and everything is more expensive.So if one takes initiative in advance then one can enjoy his life better. The job is to work under people, the business is to give people job under themselves and to help many helpless people.
So I hope your comments are good. Job or business..
A few jobs here and there.

They're quick and to the point. And you can use that job income for coins and all that good stuff.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Buntel168 on November 10, 2021, 01:48:04 AM
Now I do both, work/worker and business. but when covid hit my business slowly started to dim and this really made me dizzy. But I'm grateful that I still have a job even though I'm under the orders of my leader.

The Choice is Yours....


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Darker45 on November 10, 2021, 02:51:41 AM
I don't expect somebody to favor a job over business. Having a business means freedom. Having a job could mean the exact opposite.

With a business, there is of course the expectation that you will have to handle responsibilities, pressure, even stress. It still entails a job, lots of it even. But the mere fact that you are not taking it under a demanding supervisor, a strict boss, toxic workmates and workplace, low salary, and so on means the world.

Unfortunately, however, only a very small percentage of the world's population is given these options. The great majority are forced to work with a job that does not only hinder personal and professional growth but also drains one of life.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: noorman0 on November 10, 2021, 03:50:44 AM
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it is not easy for him to get the job. Again, some people take small jobs with some bribes from the leaders ...


It's not as difficult as it seems, just because our egos sometimes become more selective in choosing jobs that guarantee high income. In certain parts of the country, people reject heavy work because of the demands of a life of luxury and prestige even though it is actually a noble job. And yes, the culture of bribery and nepotism is still thriving even you can find it in government jobs.


I agree.
Most schools (I know of) teach you to be an employee. Very few (if any) teach you to be an entrepreneur.
Because 1 business has a complex job, so it requires a lot of workers. Formal education wants students to seek as much experience as possible.
Business is only a matter of opportunity, and most business people start from a worker who finds the opportunity. But the two will always be side by side.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: TheUltraElite on November 10, 2021, 06:47:49 AM
At present we all want to finish our studies and get a good job. But when a man finishes his studies and wants to get a job, it is not easy for him to get the job.
A popular course ends up bringing a lot of competition in the professional level. Point is that if you passion for a subject and you study that and willing to pursue your passion you will not have difficulty in finding a job.

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Again, some people take small jobs with some bribes from the leaders and then it is seen that the family does not survive with their small jobs because slowly the world is becoming digital and everything is more expensive.
Bullshit.
Bribes are common in many countries but you dont need to pay bribes to survive, they are needed at mostly lower levels to gradually go up in the ladder. Once you reach high up, you will be the one taking the bribes. Consider it to be a type of investment.

And that digital all bullshit is another propaganda. Not every job in the world is based on computers and internet. Broaden you knowledge and you will also know better.

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So if one takes initiative in advance then one can enjoy his life better. The job is to work under people, the business is to give people job under themselves and to help many helpless people.
If you think that a business is better than a job or vice versa, then you are gravely mistaken. Both a job and a business are having own pros and cons. A person who does not have the mindset of a businessman, can never be one, so why propagate that thought to them, it would be misguiding them.

This decision should be taken at lower levels though when a person is studying in school. I think good parenting is important here to realize your own child's dreams and guide them towards it. Working smartly and sincerely, anyone can be successful in life, it does not matter whether they are doing a job or a business.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: davis196 on November 10, 2021, 07:29:11 AM
Why are you asking this,as if there's a real choice between getting a job and building a business?
Those are two different things.
Do you have any capital to start a business?Can you even start a business with zero capital?
If the answer is NO,then job is your only option.
Having a business means way more responsibilities than having a job,because you are responsible for your employees getting paid.You are also responsible for your customers and delivering what you have promised to them.
Being a businessman requires more energy,better social skills,negotiation skills,building connections,discipline,persistence(when your business isn't getting any profits).
This cannot be compared to having a 9/5 job and executing orders.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: kryptqnick on November 10, 2021, 10:58:32 AM
I don't want to do business because I've heard too much negative stuff about it growing up and because being rich is not my purpose. I'm more of a job person, but I diversify my jobs, so that I can quit if I don't like the environment. Also, my main life path is that of an academic career, so business is simply not of interest to me here. That being said, I'm considering becoming self-employed as a teacher and a translator. In my country, the environment for doing business is pretty bad: those who are in business say it's impossible to build it without bribes and other illegal things. There's also a very high risk that if you do something smart, your competitors will literally destroy you and might physically deal with you. Finally, I don't like capitalism, and the idea of becoming the person who is benefiting most from this system is uncomfortable to me.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: cheezcarls on November 10, 2021, 12:45:42 PM
Sadly this is the reality of most citizens here around the world. This is why only a few percentage of us are successful in our lives because of the businesses we have. No disrespect to the schools and universities, but they only teach us how to become a good employee.

My parents even urged me to become an employee in an office-based work or in the government with benefits until retirement. However, the problem is that it eats up a lot of our time and our schedule is controlled by the boss. It’s why I remained self-employed until now. In my first few years, I endured a lot of struggles, pain, uncertainties and experiencing the worst of the worst circumstances until I finally find my footing which are cryptocurrencies and blockchain technology and the rest is history.

Although that having our own business consumes time, but we’re the ones controlling it. Eventually in a few years time, as we keep building our businesses, our residual income will be much more than the time we spent.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: dark1234 on November 10, 2021, 02:59:20 PM
every human being has his own opportunities we have no choice about it every choice is something that will determine us but sometimes we have no choice but to accept the opportunities that exist as a stepping stone to a clearer future. being a businessman or an employee is all a good thing and we should be grateful because some high school graduates become unemployed after graduation


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Golftech on November 10, 2021, 03:58:24 PM
Why are you asking this,as if there's a real choice between getting a job and building a business?
Those are two different things.
Do you have any capital to start a business?Can you even start a business with zero capital?
If the answer is NO,then job is your only option.
Having a business means way more responsibilities than having a job,because you are responsible for your employees getting paid.You are also responsible for your customers and delivering what you have promised to them.
Being a businessman requires more energy,better social skills,negotiation skills,building connections,discipline,persistence(when your business isn't getting any profits).
This cannot be compared to having a 9/5 job and executing orders.

I did not mention it here. Because there are many types of business. All types of business are divided into 2 parts. Traditional business and social marketing business. We generally know that it takes a lot of money to do a traditional business. So many people can't do traditional business but it doesn't cost much to do social marketing business so everyone can do social marketing business if they want. And the social marketing business is much less risky.

Social mrkeing can be done thru affiliation, you can start this business for free the resources are available online.

Although the chance of making it more better if you will use decent site which you needed some amount to begin with,

Being a resourful person will help you to make a good way of living, either you dal with it using your savings or you

will use your skills and capalities to find ways on how to do this business free of charges,..


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Obito on November 10, 2021, 04:48:18 PM
I don't want to do both, to be honest everything should be free. It's just that people wanted some validation for all their hard work that they want to charge someone some form of compensation and honestly I feel like this kind of system should be abolished because both does make us money in varying degrees but both of these choices drains our soul little by little. Doing business will be difficult since you need a big network and you need to keep your relations at a good pace and at the same time keep your customers loyal, while with working, you're still doing the Industrial Revolution standard of work which wasn't supposed to happen because with the assistance of machine, jobs should continue to shorten in hours and the pay continuously improves.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Rruchi man on November 10, 2021, 05:47:14 PM
It is said that every ambitious person who wants to become financial free must set up his own business, but I don't think that everybody is capable of setting up his business.

Business is not for everyone, it is very demanding and requires a lot more than you see openly, there's is a constant race among business owners to stay in business amidst harsh economic decisions, situations and there is competition, Not everybody can stay innovative and handle it, it is not a flaw, but how we were just made. Likewise, some people are in business because they can't handle the heat that comes from working for or under someone, they are not cut out to work a job even with education and qualifications.

You must take it upon yourself to find out the category you fall under, it is best you do so on time and understand that some people create jobs, while others keep the person who created the job in business through their professional or unprofessional services. It brings a sort of balance to the system.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: el kaka22 on November 10, 2021, 06:03:22 PM
Sadly this is the reality of most citizens here around the world. This is why only a few percentage of us are successful in our lives because of the businesses we have. No disrespect to the schools and universities, but they only teach us how to become a good employee.

My parents even urged me to become an employee in an office-based work or in the government with benefits until retirement. However, the problem is that it eats up a lot of our time and our schedule is controlled by the boss. It’s why I remained self-employed until now. In my first few years, I endured a lot of struggles, pain, uncertainties and experiencing the worst of the worst circumstances until I finally find my footing which are cryptocurrencies and blockchain technology and the rest is history.

Although that having our own business consumes time, but we’re the ones controlling it. Eventually in a few years time, as we keep building our businesses, our residual income will be much more than the time we spent.
I never really understood that. My father worked in a company for 23 years, he worked a total of 36 years but his biggest was this big German company in our nation that he stayed with for 23 years. Don't get me wrong, he gave me a great childhood, we rented our homes wherever we stayed and I went to great schools and I never felt the lacking of finances in my childhood.

Obviously I wasn't some wealthy kid, but I wasn't also poor neither, I was doing alright, I got toys that I wanted, I got playstation 1-2-3 whenever I wanted, and most importantly I got a good education from a good school.

However now that he is retired he has basically nothing, he has one house in some other city because it was cheaper to buy a house there, and he has a retirement fund most of which is tired to debt right now because it took a while to pay for hospital bills and they are still paying that debt.

So, working for someone else for 36 years allows you to live a decent good life while you are working, but you do not create wealth for your retirement when you are doing that. That's why I worked in an office for only 4 years, since then I have been a freelancer and building my own projects constantly, just one major that I spent too much money and time on, but rest was decent small sample stuff to basically learn how to do things.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: teosanru on November 10, 2021, 06:27:05 PM
At present we all want to finish our studies and get a good job. But when a man finishes his studies and wants to get a job, it is not easy for him to get the job. Again, some people take small jobs with some bribes from the leaders and then it is seen that the family does not survive with their small jobs because slowly the world is becoming digital and everything is more expensive.So if one takes initiative in advance then one can enjoy his life better. The job is to work under people, the business is to give people job under themselves and to help many helpless people.
So I hope your comments are good. Job or business..
I think the decision isn't only about job or business, it's more about how you perceive opportunities and what is your risk aversion. Initially, there won't be any returns in businesses too and there are good chances that the business fails leading to an even worse situation for the person than it would have been in a small job. I think initially it makes more sense for a person to get a job especially if he is getting a white-collar job, this would give him an initial kick start in terms of financial stability and also provide him an experience to later which can be handy while starting your own business, so even if a person wants to do business in the long term he should always try to start with a job only.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: hyudien on November 10, 2021, 06:34:59 PM
Complete studies well, pursue science that must be a priority. Do not let you not take advantage of the opportunity to be able to study formally. Out there people who want to learn still have difficulty accessing it, so you just have to do your best. Regarding success in the field of progress today, there is no need to worry about it all.

After your achievements are completed from school, then you only need to hone the skills you have, and choose which one is suitable for you. Can not recommend work or business, it is only each individual who can determine it.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Oasisman on November 10, 2021, 06:40:25 PM
Of course many people would love to choose business because it can give unlimited amount of profit/money. Whereas working under a person or company usually has limited amount of salary which was only capable of expanding when you're lending more time to do the job.

However, there were also those profession or jobs that gives you unlimited amount of opportunity to earn more money. Well, most of them requires either skills, talent, or expertise.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Oceat on November 10, 2021, 07:04:48 PM
Of course many people would love to choose business because it can give unlimited amount of profit/money. Whereas working under a person or company usually has limited amount of salary which was only capable of expanding when you're lending more time to do the job.

However, there were also those profession or jobs that gives you unlimited amount of opportunity to earn more money. Well, most of them requires either skills, talent, or expertise.

In other words, a person with a skills, talent, or expertise is more likely going to earn more money when working than the people who do some business. Well, businesses will make you rich in the long run if it is successful and of course the struggle to survive and learning how to deal with changes will cost some time and money but at the end of the day. I believe businesses is worth it to choose if you know how to manage your income profit.

You can't say people in the business field doesn't have any talent or skills because once you are a businessman, managing your profit and your business at the same time is also a skills.  Not to mention the approachable gesture once you manage to have more employees in your business.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: wxa7115 on November 10, 2021, 07:08:12 PM
Schools are manufacturing every students to be a good employees and the one who study well and score good grades may get decent jobs but look at the world and who are the employers they all are making money with your effort and get paid few pennies for it.

Business is always better but when it comes to business 9 out 10 won't survive even 2 years from their start up so be ready for the failures if you want to become a business man.
And this is why people prefer to have a job than being an entrepreneur, people like us which took a risk with bitcoin when it was nowhere near as popular are the kind of people that will make for a good entrepreneur, so I think we are going to see a lot of people responding in this thread about being one or wanting to become one.

But the forum does not represent what the population at large thinks, most people prefer to go for the safe option even if that means that their economic prospects are limited as it is difficult to achieve financial freedom when you are being underpaid for what you do.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: dothebeats on November 10, 2021, 08:03:03 PM
I was raised to believe that taking up a bachelor's degree will land you straight to a good job. Well, I somehow managed to land a good job after finishing my degree, but seeing some of my former schoolmates that dropped college achieve more financially than me, I just realized that maybe, finishing college isn't really for everyone. I'm not chasing for riches and regretting anything, but it just clicked to me that some will do good if they chose to do business at an early age while some are better off studying and entering the big world as a corporate pawn.

But if I have the chance to turn back time and choose again, I'd choose a different degree and try to excel on that for competitive offers even as a fresh grad.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Lanatsa on November 10, 2021, 08:40:07 PM
At present we all want to finish our studies and get a good job. But when a man finishes his studies and wants to get a job, it is not easy for him to get the job. Again, some people take small jobs with some bribes from the leaders and then it is seen that the family does not survive with their small jobs because slowly the world is becoming digital and everything is more expensive.So if one takes initiative in advance then one can enjoy his life better. The job is to work under people, the business is to give people job under themselves and to help many helpless people.
So I hope your comments are good. Job or business..
It is really depending on someones actions and perseverance on how he would handle up himself on reaching out their goals and we know that building a business isn't really that simple as it sounds even if you wanted to which simply means that it will really be not easy as not all would be have the capital.

Therefore,we don't have any choice but to take those day job and work hard for us to get some salary and survive ourselves and that's the part of the reality
we do have now.

If you do like to make your life better then its just normal that you would really be finding out ways for you to make more income
and make your status even way more better.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: paxmao on November 10, 2021, 09:32:13 PM
It is very dependent on the country. Even in developed countries, it may not be a sensible choice to go out there an open a business without some previous experience working for someone else. Barriers are high and making business is anything but an unlevelled playing filed in which politics, nepotism and groups are determinant for success.

I encourage people to be brave, but also have a good understanding of what they are doing.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: jrrsparkles on November 11, 2021, 02:34:41 AM
Schools are manufacturing every students to be a good employees and the one who study well and score good grades may get decent jobs but look at the world and who are the employers they all are making money with your effort and get paid few pennies for it.

Business is always better but when it comes to business 9 out 10 won't survive even 2 years from their start up so be ready for the failures if you want to become a business man.
And this is why people prefer to have a job than being an entrepreneur, people like us which took a risk with bitcoin when it was nowhere near as popular are the kind of people that will make for a good entrepreneur, so I think we are going to see a lot of people responding in this thread about being one or wanting to become one.

But the forum does not represent what the population at large thinks, most people prefer to go for the safe option even if that means that their economic prospects are limited as it is difficult to achieve financial freedom when you are being underpaid for what you do.
Being an entrepreneur is different from being an investor, so one who is investing their money on anything like Bitcoin, stocks and any assets are investors but the earlier one was to bring the idea which maybe new or an evolution of something which is already existing so they can attract investors and customers as well.

Well, its very rare to become rich by getting oaid by someone so its a mandatory to take risk if they want the rewards.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: AicecreaME on November 11, 2021, 10:26:54 AM
At present we all want to finish our studies and get a good job. But when a man finishes his studies and wants to get a job, it is not easy for him to get the job. Again, some people take small jobs with some bribes from the leaders and then it is seen that the family does not survive with their small jobs because slowly the world is becoming digital and everything is more expensive.So if one takes initiative in advance then one can enjoy his life better. The job is to work under people, the business is to give people job under themselves and to help many helpless people.
So I hope your comments are good. Job or business..

This matter is subjective. It depends on the preferences of a person and his capability to do either or both of it.

They keep on saying, education is an important tool. Indeed it is. Education is something that cannot be stolen by anyone from us. Although this is often misunderstood that education must come from the four walls of a classroom. No, it doesn't need be acquired only at school. It could be also from your experiences. Education from schools can be of great help most especially if you want to pursue professional field such as being a doctor, teacher, or lawyer.  It can be your stepping stone to achieve what you define success, but you could also rise to the top without it because after all, determination, perseverance, and nice strategy could also get you far ahead.

There are people who are less fortunate that don't have the capability of studying to a decent and reputable schools. Hence, they have no other choice but to stand for themselves at a very young age. Finding ways on how to survive on a daily basis without a college degree or diploma to show and offer, but ended up successful. It's because they have strategies which cause their small ideas, crafts, and businesses blossom into something big. You see, education in a formal school won't guarantee you a successful life. It won't guarantee you a work after graduation. It won't promise you a nice paying salary either. But you could always look beyond that and start something you are passionate about. You can study and do business at the same time. You could opt not to study and do business if that's what your heart wants. Or you could study and pursue your field of expertise and not do business if that's what you think your calling is.

The bottomline here is you do what you want to do. If you see something that will be beneficial to you, growing as a person in different aspects, then do it. Pursue your calling. It could be hard because not everyone is experiencing same storm, but we could always make a way to survive the rain and the heavy winds that has keep on drowning us. Job or business, both are decent opportunities to generate income. Do what you think will suits you best and will fulfill the desires of your heart as well as your goals in life.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: perfect999 on November 11, 2021, 11:15:43 AM
At present we all want to finish our studies and get a good job. But when a man finishes his studies and wants to get a job, it is not easy for him to get the job. Again, some people take small jobs with some bribes from the leaders and then it is seen that the family does not survive with their small jobs because slowly the world is becoming digital and everything is more expensive.So if one takes initiative in advance then one can enjoy his life better. The job is to work under people, the business is to give people job under themselves and to help many helpless people.
Personally, I am always going to choose business over having a job. As long as I have enough money to start up a big business then I am going to do that and not go out and start looking for a job. That has been my plan right from time and it’s not to be in an office and working for anybody, when I can  start my own business and be my own boss and have total control on whatever I want to do.

You see, having a job puts a limit on you and your income, every month you’re expecting to earn a particular amount. But when you own a business, there is no limit to what you will be expecting in a month, every month you're expecting to earn even more than what you got the previous month are you always expecting to keep growing more than your current level.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Jaycee99 on November 11, 2021, 11:48:04 AM
Still, I want to be about business so Maybe there will be a chance if I earn more and save that money from my job I will do my dram business.

 
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I want to do my own business but my course is an office job not a business of my own.

One thing I know and experienced School provides a student or rather produce a student to be an employee, not a businessman or woman, especially when you are a college student.

Most parents pursuing you or rather their children to take the course that they do not want to suggest the most number of jobs that earns a check of a 6 digit number.

Only a few people helped their children to do what they want so commonly people get into jobs being slaves of their parents choice, not a business that will help them along the way until they get old giving also a chance that will help them to earn a 6 digit check it maybe longer but it's worth it as long as you do the business you love to work on. Plus it's said that going out to your confront zone will help grow as a person.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: ultrloa on November 11, 2021, 11:51:13 AM
At present we all want to finish our studies and get a good job. But when a man finishes his studies and wants to get a job, it is not easy for him to get the job. Again, some people take small jobs with some bribes from the leaders and then it is seen that the family does not survive with their small jobs because slowly the world is becoming digital and everything is more expensive.So if one takes initiative in advance then one can enjoy his life better. The job is to work under people, the business is to give people job under themselves and to help many helpless people.
So I hope your comments are good. Job or business..

Its personal decision by individual since not everyone has courage to do business as this one need a lot of patience and time plus money and many doesn't want to take a risk since they want to earn passive money that's why many choose to have stable job rather than spending those ventures. But if we really look deeply having a business is much really better since from this we can enhance our life and we will be away on modern day slavery where almost all of our time will be spend on cubicles and we don't have a choice but to follow what our superior say to us.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: bitzizzix on November 11, 2021, 03:05:15 PM
The fact is that most people will work after completing their studies because that is the initial goal after completing their studies and over time they will find their identity.
Working is one way to gain valuable experience and can also be used for the purpose of opening a planned business. I mean working to grow the planned business capital or after realizing that he has expertise in the business and start planning it.

and that's my journey and I think the job is important because it will be a valuable experience until I find the skills that are within me to be a business, and the money I earn can be used and collected for capital while planning and also developing the business strategy that I plan .


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: so98nn on November 11, 2021, 03:30:58 PM
Well, I am more or less inclined to the multiple income kinda guy and has always tried to add more and more option to my portfolio. I am very much up for the business first and then for the job. I am a biotechnologist by profession and im doing pretty good at vaccine manufacturing plant however at the end of day it is nothing but 9-5 job and you have to be there all the time anyways. I am slowly starting to look for good business opportunities and sooner or later I will start one small business for sure. Though not considered as business but I am selling my Pencil Arts everywhere and whenever get the opportunity I would go and show it in the exhibitions. I am working on the full fledge working of the same, and hope that some way other I will convert it into the big business deal.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: topbitcoin on November 11, 2021, 08:22:09 PM
At present we all want to finish our studies and get a good job. But when a man finishes his studies and wants to get a job, it is not easy for him to get the job. Again, some people take small jobs with some bribes from the leaders and then it is seen that the family does not survive with their small jobs because slowly the world is becoming digital and everything is more expensive.So if one takes initiative in advance then one can enjoy his life better. The job is to work under people, the business is to give people job under themselves and to help many helpless people.
So I hope your comments are good. Job or business..
Personally i will do both, maybe for some people who have shortcut, they can open business in a short time. But for ordinary people, they need to collect money to be used as capital to open business, and where to start it? it is have a job. Doing something in  step by step really needed because even we already have money, opening business is not simple as it seen, it need research to be success and not guarante it can made us successful directly.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: 2double0 on November 11, 2021, 08:56:31 PM
A lot of employers and great personalities were among those who were school or college dropouts and presently earning a lot more in a month than an average guy who completed his study and works for them could even think of, but still cannot earn during his entire life. Doing job is for those who want a salary, a paycheck they can wait for and get after a month. Doing business is for courageous men and women who think of the future of others too while taking people with them to fulfil the vision they have in their mind. Businessmen have the ability to sign those paychecks and give them to their employees while they earn it on a daily basis and take all the risks on them.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Mahanton on November 11, 2021, 08:58:58 PM
At present we all want to finish our studies and get a good job. But when a man finishes his studies and wants to get a job, it is not easy for him to get the job. Again, some people take small jobs with some bribes from the leaders and then it is seen that the family does not survive with their small jobs because slowly the world is becoming digital and everything is more expensive.So if one takes initiative in advance then one can enjoy his life better. The job is to work under people, the business is to give people job under themselves and to help many helpless people.
So I hope your comments are good. Job or business..
Personally i will do both, maybe for some people who have shortcut, they can open business in a short time. But for ordinary people, they need to collect money to be used as capital to open business, and where to start it? it is have a job. Doing something in  step by step really needed because even we already have money, opening business is not simple as it seen, it need research to be success and not guarante it can made us successful directly.
Why would need to choose if you could do both? Its not really impossible to do both as long you do know how to manage your time and of course your funds or capital. Doesnt matter on how you've done it because
what matter most is that you do need to sustain and able to maintain out when it comes to profit and of course on having that financial freedom out of those two sources you do have.
Do all sorts of things as long you do able to do so and able to get more income out of it and make your life sustainable and this is on where most people do wish for.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: uneng on November 11, 2021, 09:10:24 PM
Most people can't choose between having a job x or y, or between being a employee or employeer. All they can do is to take the opportunity that is currently opened to them with the hope something better will be disponible after some time. Of course the business owner position looks more interesting for most people, because they imagine it is an easy duty where all the have to do is to order people to do things.

But in fact, owner and manager positions are the most difficult, time and responsability demanding ones. So it's really not for everyone, and even though most people would like to have access to the benefits and advantages of those positions I'm sure they wouldn't want the negative aspects and renounces those same occupations also demand.

Sometimes it's better to be just a well paid worker instead of a manager with a restricted budget a lot of headaches.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: dimox on November 11, 2021, 09:26:53 PM
what people want when study is certificate to apply in many company, and when get a job, they have good position, and salary. in my country, company apply people who have connection with other worker, its hard to dig new potential from newbie, like just who want to fill this position. not all company play like this, good manager will do like system and what you have for the company.
need fund to explore what business is, you need to get job first to do it, or you need to have riches family.
good one is, taking job, whatever it is as long as you have paid and it can bring your step longer, just think about experience first than how much salary you got. experience is good teacher in good company, and it can be bride to be good entrepreneur.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: matchi2011 on November 11, 2021, 09:49:29 PM
A lot of employers and great personalities were among those who were school or college dropouts and presently earning a lot more in a month than an average guy who completed his study and works for them could even think of, but still cannot earn during his entire life. Doing job is for those who want a salary, a paycheck they can wait for and get after a month. Doing business is for courageous men and women who think of the future of others too while taking people with them to fulfil the vision they have in their mind. Businessmen have the ability to sign those paychecks and give them to their employees while they earn it on a daily basis and take all the risks on them.

The mindset of ordinary students thinks about completing their studies and have a decent job, but inside
the business minded person, he thinks out of the box and keeps on finding ways not to have a decent job
but to be the owner of the business.

You can always choose your side according to how you see yourself. Opportunities are always near to those
people who think positively about aiming for a much secured financial wealth.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: 24Kt on November 11, 2021, 09:53:56 PM
A lot of employers and great personalities were among those who were school or college dropouts and presently earning a lot more in a month than an average guy who completed his study and works for them could even think of, but still cannot earn during his entire life. Doing job is for those who want a salary, a paycheck they can wait for and get after a month. Doing business is for courageous men and women who think of the future of others too while taking people with them to fulfil the vision they have in their mind. Businessmen have the ability to sign those paychecks and give them to their employees while they earn it on a daily basis and take all the risks on them.

The mindset of ordinary students thinks about completing their studies and have a decent job, but inside
the business minded person, he thinks out of the box and keeps on finding ways not to have a decent job
but to be the owner of the business.

You can always choose your side according to how you see yourself. Opportunities are always near to those
people who think positively about aiming for a much secured financial wealth.

If you are not yet capable of managing your own business, you can always apply for a job and save funds to achieve your target. But let us admit, that not all people can venture into business because it depends on the motivation and passion of the person. Business is not for all. Whereas, a lot of people are just aiming to have a decent job to augment their needs. So this question is very arbitrary, we will have different answers here depending on the kind of personality you have.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Alert31 on November 11, 2021, 10:58:59 PM
It depends on your career or course taken up. If your taking business courses like entrepreneurship then I think your purpose and focus is to put up a business after you finish your schooling especially if your family is capable to help you put up a business. But if you finished taking up other courses, of course, you can apply a job base on your qualification. Even you are not a degree holder, you can still find a job base on your skill, talents, qualification and as long as you can do a work.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: livingfree on November 11, 2021, 11:23:41 PM
At present we all want to finish our studies and get a good job. But when a man finishes his studies and wants to get a job, it is not easy for him to get the job. Again, some people take small jobs with some bribes from the leaders and then it is seen that the family does not survive with their small jobs because slowly the world is becoming digital and everything is more expensive.So if one takes initiative in advance then one can enjoy his life better. The job is to work under people, the business is to give people job under themselves and to help many helpless people.
So I hope your comments are good. Job or business..
Why not choose both?

You can maximize your time by doing these two things. You have a job whether it's high paying or average paying then after your shift, you go to the business that you're building. Just have someone that you whom trust to run the business while you're out.

And just go with the process of establishing it, once it's already good and stable, you can decide whether to stay on that job and keep going. Or, you will become full time on your business.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Rengga Jati on November 11, 2021, 11:25:13 PM
This is the mindset in society in general. We grew up to go to school and then get a good job, a high position, and also a high salary. especially if we succeed in becoming a civil servant (government), in my circle this becomes an extraordinary thing and is the target of many people.
But not for people who are actually fighting for business. They are actually considered unusual and underestimated.
Right now I'm personally still doing both.
become a worker and also start a business. My goal is to have a business that will be on autopilot. And I really want to be separated from my job (even though the hours are very few), but I can't because it's related to my profession.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: albon on November 11, 2021, 11:56:18 PM
They taught us everything in schools except how to get rich and how to get a job after graduating from university and completing your education. In developing and developed countries, you find it difficult to get a job with a good salary, I believe, because of the increase in the population, so people resorted to intermediaries and bribes in order to get A good job and there are those who are like me and turned to work online to earn a living, although the profits of the Internet are not large or permanent as a monthly salary, but it is certainly better than the available jobs that give you a small salary per month compared to your monthly effort.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Masplanc on November 12, 2021, 12:36:13 AM
It's not even cool one having a job and have no plans to set up a business. Even if the job allowance is not Much , it is best to gather money for business even if it will take a long time. Having a business is the greatest investment. Working for someone the Job can be loose at anytime.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: michellee on November 12, 2021, 01:37:59 AM
At present we all want to finish our studies and get a good job. But when a man finishes his studies and wants to get a job, it is not easy for him to get the job. Again, some people take small jobs with some bribes from the leaders and then it is seen that the family does not survive with their small jobs because slowly the world is becoming digital and everything is more expensive.So if one takes initiative in advance then one can enjoy his life better. The job is to work under people, the business is to give people job under themselves and to help many helpless people.
So I hope your comments are good. Job or business..
When we finish our studies, we have a big hope to work in a good company with a good salary. But not all people can get that chance because they need to compete with the other candidates. The best thing that they can do is keep trying to search for the job but they also need to search what business can boom in the next cycle or will be needed every time.

So they will have two opportunities that can help them to make money and even if only one thing works good for them, they do not have to worry because if they still insist to search for another source of income, I am sure they will get that someday.

The key in this matter does not complain to about everything that you do and keep trying more and more because who knows, one of what you did will give you the answer to what you need to do it later.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Wong Gendheng on November 12, 2021, 04:14:42 AM
For business, of course, there are many things that must be needed, besides capital, consumer analysis is something we must know, I was in the restaurant business and it only lasted less than 6 months, especially when it was a pandemic, and now I'm more focused on work and something. someday will make a restaurant or garment business.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: palle11 on November 12, 2021, 06:17:04 AM

I was in the restaurant business and it only lasted less than 6 months, especially when it was a pandemic, and now I'm more focused on work and something. someday will make a restaurant or garment business.

Unfortunately that your restaurant business crashed and that was because of covid-19 restrictions which is understandable people were not allowed to move around, restaurant business requires physical presence. Your restaurant business was not the only one that suffered, all others that requires physical patronage suffered and got shot down. Big companies too were affected and they downsized there labour force and directed working from home for few and this opened people's mind to working at home and seeing also the opportunities online. My suggestion therefore is you can look up some of these opportunities online and develop a business idea from it as alternative as you do your restaurant business. Diversification is better than putting yourself in just one line of business.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Semar Mesem on November 12, 2021, 07:58:02 AM
Several times I made a business from agriculture, fisheries to a supplier of vehicle spare parts, but this has not been able to make me successful because business requires patience, when the shop is empty I can't wait and choose to try another business, and because I'm not focused it makes me lose money and now I focus on work and plan to do business again if economic conditions improve.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: tyz on November 12, 2021, 10:12:32 AM
Business is always better but when it comes to business 9 out 10 won't survive even 2 years from their start up so be ready for the failures if you want to become a business man.

You can also put it another way. If you take a normal job, you want to live a normal life. But in the very rarest of cases, you can become rich in the process.
If you want to make more out of your life and have the chance for a higher or even great prosperity, you have to start a business and become an entrepreneur. Of course, many do not make it and go broke, but the chance of prosperity is much greater than with an employee job.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Ultegra134 on November 12, 2021, 11:34:21 AM
No one is going to make you a manager in his business, just because you graduated with something relevant, many years are likely to pass, doing lesser jobs and being a simple employee, till you can gain a significant position in someone's business. On the other hand, building your own from scratch isn't that simple, nowadays, everything is online, and automated, you'll need to be persistent and most importantly, innovative to succeed, which will take quite a few years, if it ever happens.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Huppercase on November 12, 2021, 04:27:41 PM
Life is like a dice, my outcome may favour me but when it your turn to roll it, they may not favour life. This is the same with been an entrepreneur and working as a job person.
I will pick business if I have the capital and environment that will favour my kind of business ideas, not some kind of place that my profit will be making a negative value to my sweat.
If I have a Job in well paid company, I will also but will later abandon the job if I save enough to start a business.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Leviathan.007 on November 12, 2021, 07:40:55 PM
To be honest as someone who did study and school and sone famous universities even sone international and famous universities I can see all you can learn in the school as to how to become a normal and boring person who looks and begs for a job to buy food. Many entrepreneurs didn't even finish their schools and they are rich and famous at the same time. That's why in my own idea the key to becoming a successful businessman is having free readings instead of school.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: RealMalatesta on November 12, 2021, 08:56:36 PM
You can also put it another way. If you take a normal job, you want to live a normal life. But in the very rarest of cases, you can become rich in the process.
If you want to make more out of your life and have the chance for a higher or even great prosperity, you have to start a business and become an entrepreneur. Of course, many do not make it and go broke, but the chance of prosperity is much greater than with an employee job.
It is also quite a risky move as well if you want to start. This means that if you are willing to take that risk, there is absolutely a true chance that you could end up with more money than a salary earner, it is definitely possible. However there is also a good chance that you could end up bankrupting as well, losing all of your money and you would be out of work and unemployed and have a huge debt as well.

I have tried it a few times, and each time it has failed so far, but since I work remotely that meant that I got to keep my job so I was lucky. Doesn't mean that everyone who starts a business will bankrupt, I am just not very good at it and I end up losing a lot of money because I am not good at it, but we do not know who will start a business neither with this advice, it could be someone like me, or it could be someone like Jeff Bezos, who knows?


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: Questat on November 12, 2021, 09:05:16 PM
know this man and he will certainly change your view in life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kiyosaki

I've been watching videos of him on youtube and it's kinda telling me that business is really good compared to jobs, we are just conditioned to study well so we can end up with a good job, but in reality, it does not give us financial freedom because only business can if handled properly.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: suzanne5223 on November 12, 2021, 09:16:30 PM
Apart from the world going digital, in this 21 century it will be hard for people with a single job or single way of earning to thrive and this is footing the advice of people like Kiyosaki. However, if you look at the people who are billionaires now they have diverse ways of earning an income.

everything is more expensive
Everything will be expensive cause the government shouldn't have printed any fiat currency this year.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: 2double0 on November 12, 2021, 09:25:18 PM
Apart from the world going digital, in this 21 century it will be hard for people with a single job or single way of earning to thrive and this is footing the advice of people like Kiyosaki. However, if you look at the people who are billionaires now they have diverse ways of earning an income.

Doing more than a single 'job' is like exploiting ourselves at its peak. It is also a matter of fact that doing business does not fit under anybody's appetite and needs patience to grow and bring that business ahead because overnight success stories are just white lies and like a plant needs time to become a tree, a business also needs time to grow and if a businessman is lucky, only then he gets hardworking people who stay with that business even in the worst times.


Title: Re: Who wants to do what. Jobs or business..
Post by: dunfida on November 12, 2021, 09:46:32 PM
Apart from the world going digital, in this 21 century it will be hard for people with a single job or single way of earning to thrive and this is footing the advice of people like Kiyosaki. However, if you look at the people who are billionaires now they have diverse ways of earning an income.

Doing more than a single 'job' is like exploiting ourselves at its peak. It is also a matter of fact that doing business does not fit under anybody's appetite and needs patience to grow and bring that business ahead because overnight success stories are just white lies and like a plant needs time to become a tree, a business also needs time to grow and if a businessman is lucky, only then he gets hardworking people who stay with that business even in the worst times.
Investment isnt for everybody but how you would able to know if it doesnt work for you? You couldnt tell unless you do try and this is why people do make out investment even though they arent really that much sure.

We know the chances or probabilities when it comes to possible profits if you have done this right and its true that this isnt for everybody but doesnt
mean that you wouldnt give a try.

Its up to someone on how they would gonna take advantage of their finances on putting up on other ventures.