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Title: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: RILWAN on November 13, 2021, 07:45:34 AM
A lot of cases have been rising in the gambling industry, as gambling become popular and more players and new site are coming up on a daily basis, a lot of fraud cases have been reported some of the cases are resolved and some other never get resolved which have lead to bad reputation for some gambling platforms.
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: mindrust on November 13, 2021, 07:56:55 AM
A lot of cases have been rising in the gambling industry, as gambling become popular and more players and new site are coming up on a daily basis, a lot of fraud cases have been reported some of the cases are resolved and some other never get resolved which have lead to bad reputation for some gambling platforms.
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?

There isn't really much you can do if the casino you are playing on is not operating in your country. If it does, you can hire a lawyer and sue them but otherwise the department of justice won't care. In some countries it is even illegal to play at overseas casinos so you can even get jailed for reporting yourself. Long story short, you are effed if the casino don't give your money back.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Oshosondy on November 13, 2021, 08:14:24 AM
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?
I will like to first say something about the issue of not reading the terms and conditions of each gambling sites someone is using, the terms and conditions must be read to know if the accusation is scam or not. There are some times you will think the gambling site wants to scam, it may even be scam-like but if already existing in their terms and conditions, then will not be seen as scam even if taken to court.

What matters most is money, if you know you have done the right thing, not againsting the terms and conditions, you can take the gambling site to court, but this will require money and not an option for people that have no enough money.

It is very good to use a reputed gambling site to avoid scam from betting companies.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: swogerino on November 13, 2021, 08:18:24 AM
A lot of cases have been rising in the gambling industry, as gambling become popular and more players and new site are coming up on a daily basis, a lot of fraud cases have been reported some of the cases are resolved and some other never get resolved which have lead to bad reputation for some gambling platforms.
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?

I think the best you can do is do your own research about the casino you want to play at and then come here in the forum and see the reviews from people here about that casino.Of course do not try to play in newly established casinos no matter the big bonus attractions they may give you as an incentive in the beginning.I am talking about the crypto ones as I believe you are asking about them and this is the best thing to do,do your own research and then come back here,see the list of trusted casinos and list of the ones to avoid in the Gambling section.Only play in casinos which 100% of the forum members considers them trustworthy.I am not naming any but there are a lot of them which you can find as I told you in the Gambling section.

As for legal procedures I hardly have seen anyone winning against a gambling company that has scammed them.So the answer also to this lies in the paragraph above.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: crwth on November 13, 2021, 08:41:12 AM
If you are a victim of that, you need to reach the local enforcement if the customer service cannot do anything about your case. I think it's essential that you need to check the background of the casino or the gambling site that you are going to participate in because that's going to be crucial if you deposit some money or not. It's always going to be like that, and you cannot blame anyone else if you deposited in a site that's not reputable or doesn't do anything about scam accusations against them.

If it's a gambling site related to cryptocurrencies, I suggest searching the forum first before anything else. You might miss out on something important if you don't.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: HUSTLER on November 13, 2021, 08:43:28 AM
A lot of cases have been rising in the gambling industry, as gambling become popular and more players and new site are coming up on a daily basis, a lot of fraud cases have been reported some of the cases are resolved and some other never get resolved which have lead to bad reputation for some gambling platforms.
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?
Well i dont think there is any where to complain about it, you can only post in forums like this about those things but you cannot officially complain as far as i know. As i have also been in this fraud situations and when I complain even in some online places nothing happened even after that years have passed.
It is only good to use trustable sites and not the newbie sites.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Oshosondy on November 13, 2021, 08:50:30 AM
As for legal procedures I hardly have seen anyone winning against a gambling company that has scammed them.So the answer also to this lies in the paragraph above.
Can you check this link:

Online gambler wins court case to claim £1.7m prize after Betfred refused to pay
https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2021/apr/07/online-gambler-wins-court-case-to-claim-17m-prize-after-betfred-refused-to-pay

Like I also mentioned, better to use a reputed site to avoid issues, but if a gambling company is registered in a country, you can take such dispute to court after consulting your lawyer.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: ipanks on November 13, 2021, 08:50:44 AM
Maybe those people can report to the local authority if they have a problem with the casino so the authority can investigate it and find the real problem behind that. But that will depend on the legality of gambling in your country because if gambling is not legal in your country, you can not do anything except letting your money go. Fraud cases will always happen but we can prevent that before it happens to us and that is why we need to be careful playing gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Jawhead999 on November 13, 2021, 09:02:30 AM
Not only new casinos is scam but an old casino can be scam and still operated until now, the old scammy casino is on @OP signature ;D ['List] 1xbit scam accusations. Scamming gamblers since 2017 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5343377.0) not sure why you create this thread. /facepalm

As mentioned above it's hard to acccuse a casinos if you're not live in same location where the casino operated and doesn't have any license. Not all license will take action against scam casinos because each license has different services. This is the reason why 1xbit owner or team hasn't been jailed :D


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Findingnemo on November 13, 2021, 09:15:45 AM
A lot of cases have been rising in the gambling industry, as gambling become popular and more players and new site are coming up on a daily basis, a lot of fraud cases have been reported some of the cases are resolved and some other never get resolved which have lead to bad reputation for some gambling platforms.
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?
You can go to the court and let this thing further in a legal way if you have a strong proof that you got scammed by that casino. To be honest its not going to be easy still its possible if the amount involved is huge.

Other procedure is to deal with their reputation, in case if you are talking about a casino which is having their representative in bitcointalk then go to scam accusation section where you can create a thread with all the valid proofs.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Rruchi man on November 13, 2021, 09:21:20 AM
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?

Sometimes you get exhausted and frustrated before any legal procedure you take against gambling platforms falls through, they have tons of lawyers with a high probability that they have handled similar cases with clients who believe that they have been defrauded.

Another perspective is, you must be really careful with gambling platforms, some are put up by fraudulent individuals who have made it their format to set up fraudulent platforms to swindle cash from unsuspecting individuals, always use gambling platforms that have a good reputation and customer rating.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: madnessteat on November 13, 2021, 09:22:00 AM
~snip~

In my opinion, each case should be considered separately. But somehow I think that in most cases you will not be able to get anything through the court because people engaged in fraud in advance consider all possible situations. I recommend before playing on one of the gambling platforms to study its history and get well acquainted with TOS. Because it is in the TOS are prescribed the main points of contention.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: noormcs5 on November 13, 2021, 09:35:46 AM
A lot of cases have been rising in the gambling industry, as gambling become popular and more players and new site are coming up on a daily basis, a lot of fraud cases have been reported some of the cases are resolved and some other never get resolved which have lead to bad reputation for some gambling platforms.
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?

In order to report and get help from the law enforcement agencies, we need that gambling casino are registered with proper license to operate. Since there are many casino which are running without an license, in case they fraud with you, then unfortunately we are not in a position to take this matter in the court of law. Most of the times, no one knows who is running the casino as most of the casino are being run anonymously online.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Yaunfitda on November 13, 2021, 09:36:31 AM
If you are a victim of that, you need to reach the local enforcement if the customer service cannot do anything about your case. I think it's essential that you need to check the background of the casino or the gambling site that you are going to participate in because that's going to be crucial if you deposit some money or not. It's always going to be like that, and you cannot blame anyone else if you deposited in a site that's not reputable or doesn't do anything about scam accusations against them.
I doubt though that local enforcement has help you with such case. Who has the overall jurisdiction of the case? That is the big question specially in online bookies.

If it's a gambling site related to cryptocurrencies, I suggest searching the forum first before anything else. You might miss out on something important if you don't.
Yes, we even have dedicated board for that, to raise your concern. But it will be like "he said, she said", so you better be prepared of all the evidences, screen shots of the messages or email conversation and then maybe the community can help in settling the case.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: BitcoinAccepted on November 13, 2021, 09:39:30 AM
I'm no expert here but I think they can contact the license provider and report it? or is there other way to report fraud gambling sites? Some gambling sites just closed down their businesses and after a report but until now I'm still not sure what is the right process to report gambling sites with and without gambling license.

I think it's a big help to post it in the forum since many people could see it and probably stay away from that website.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Fortify on November 13, 2021, 09:43:22 AM
A lot of cases have been rising in the gambling industry, as gambling become popular and more players and new site are coming up on a daily basis, a lot of fraud cases have been reported some of the cases are resolved and some other never get resolved which have lead to bad reputation for some gambling platforms.
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?

Since gambling was created there have been people trying to take advantage of "the house" and it is nothing new. Unless you're talking about very large amounts of money (tens of thousands) then it is probably not even worth it for the casino to try and take the legal route because that has it's own set of extra expenses. The casino would be much better using any further money to lockdown the original problem or figure out new ways to detect fraud being committed against them. If you're talking about players being defrauded, then simply you have to take more due diligence when looking for a place to play - there are lots of threads here and if you flick through the last few pages to see if there are many allegations of bad treatment it will help you avoid most issues (e.g. 1xbit are clearly fraudsters)


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: mindrust on November 13, 2021, 09:45:23 AM
Yes, we even have dedicated board for that, to raise your concern. But it will be like "he said, she said", so you better be prepared of all the evidences, screen shots of the messages or email conversation and then maybe the community can help in settling the case.

Not only screenshots/logs etc, you should screen record your bets too because the casino might say "you forged the screenshots". It is possible to create fake screenshots. When you are dealing with money, it is probably better to record your actions because you'll never know when they'll decide to scam you. There are many free screen recording software out there. OBS should be a good one. There are probably others too.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Gosgosking on November 13, 2021, 09:57:07 AM
If the gambling company is within the region where a victim is reporting a gambling fraud to the court an action can be taking from the court if only there is a real evidence from the victim. A case where by the gambling site is abroad from the victim it will be difficult for the victimq to do anything about any kind of fraud accusation.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: acroman08 on November 13, 2021, 10:05:31 AM
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?
if you are going for legal actions it is best to hire a lawyer that specializes in these kinds of cases. they know what to do and what steps to take to make the situation in your favor. that being said there is still no guarantee that you'll win if you ever take a gambling company on a court but hiring a lawyer is your best option.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: blockman on November 13, 2021, 10:24:23 AM
A lot of cases have been rising in the gambling industry, as gambling become popular and more players and new site are coming up on a daily basis, a lot of fraud cases have been reported some of the cases are resolved and some other never get resolved which have lead to bad reputation for some gambling platforms.
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?
As long as the casino has its address and they're the actual and real address, someone who became a victim of their fraud can file a case against them.
If you want to know more about legal procedures then it's the attorney to have the background on it or should you research about the process into your country about such.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: dothebeats on November 13, 2021, 10:43:16 AM
It will depend entirely on the recommendations by your local authorities and the guidelines you need to follow that they impose before you can file a complaint against gambling fraud. Most of us here do not fall under the same jurisdiction, and do not live in the same country hence why our approaches will differ from one another.

But the basics of handling gambling fraud is simple: inform the local authorities, gather as much information and evidence as you can, and file a complaint with the help of your lawyer.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Cling18 on November 13, 2021, 10:44:09 AM
A lot of cases have been rising in the gambling industry, as gambling become popular and more players and new site are coming up on a daily basis, a lot of fraud cases have been reported some of the cases are resolved and some other never get resolved which have lead to bad reputation for some gambling platforms.
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?

You can reach out to the local reinforcement in your area but things will still depend on the casino that you'll address. That's the reason why we're always advised to do our own research first before joining or playing on a certain site because fraud will always be everywhere. It's better to read reviews and feedbacks from users so you'll know how the casino site runs.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: robelneo on November 13, 2021, 10:46:24 AM
A lot of cases have been rising in the gambling industry, as gambling become popular and more players and new site are coming up on a daily basis, a lot of fraud cases have been reported some of the cases are resolved and some other never get resolved which have lead to bad reputation for some gambling platforms.
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?

Fraud can be avoided if you are doing enough research and you are reading the gambling site's terms of service, it will save you a lot of money and time if you do these things, if you checked the scam sections about gambling fraud and complaints, it arises because of the players not doing research and reading the TOS that leads to breaking their rules, if you are pouring money in the hope of at least winning or getting back what you've bet, then it's worth taking the time to read the TOS and playing on the right casino.
Unless you lose a huge of money and still can afford to hire lawyers, that's the only time you should pursue a case against a casino.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Tumanggor on November 13, 2021, 11:11:29 AM
A lot of cases have been rising in the gambling industry, as gambling become popular and more players and new site are coming up on a daily basis, a lot of fraud cases have been reported some of the cases are resolved and some other never get resolved which have lead to bad reputation for some gambling platforms.
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?
for those who live in a country where gambling is prohibited then making a report about fraud is pointless

but for those who live in countries where gambling is legally regulated and get a legal permit then you can report it to the authorities and surely your money they cheated will return


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: bitzizzix on November 13, 2021, 11:48:39 AM
If your loss is very large, you should look for a reliable lawyer who understands and is also experienced or has handled the same case as you before, because it will make it easier for you and only a lawyer will handle and take care of everything and the steps that must be taken.
You only need to provide complete evidence required by a lawyer, and this incident will be an experience for you to be more careful and thorough before engaging in gambling, which is the question whether you do not know that today many gambling sites are scams. And if you know that it should be your vigilance before getting involved and doing research.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: BITCOIN4X on November 13, 2021, 12:03:29 PM
A lot of cases have been rising in the gambling industry, as gambling become popular and more players and new site are coming up on a daily basis, a lot of fraud cases have been reported some of the cases are resolved and some other never get resolved which have lead to bad reputation for some gambling platforms.
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?
I think you don't really care about scam cases involving gambling site on this forum because in fact you are still actively promoting one of the site that is clearly a scam site up to now in your signature space.

Forum and users who care about scam will only guide other users to find out if the feedback the site receive is positive or negative. You must have an analysis for the site you are going to use because it is still about money. Look how careless people are who are willing to spend money to make a deposit on the site you are promoting, they not only lose the game but they will also lose with a withdrawal limit which make them have to give up their money and their winning are frozen by the site.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: fortunecrypto on November 13, 2021, 12:07:25 PM

My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?
If the gambling casino is licensed under Curacao you must get a lawyer whose expertise is about gambling fraud you'll have to spend a lot of money and if possible go to Curacao to present your case, it will take time and a lot of money, and it's not a guaranty that you will win a case, the representation alone will cost you a lot of money, you can save a lot of money if you are playing on a gambling site with good reputation, and you know the rule of the gambling site you're playing by heart.  


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Wexnident on November 13, 2021, 12:34:57 PM
erm I don't think it's possible? If the casinos was officially licensed then it may be possible to appeal to whoever hosts the license, but if it wasn't, or rather the site was made to look like it was licensed but wasn't really one, then you've been completely fooled. I'm pretty sure it would be close to impossible to find the people behind the scam since it's online, if it was offline then there may be a chance but online? Close to zero imo. Unless they somehow left tracks that could lead to them. You can also ask a lawyer if you think you're chances are pretty good in finding the one at fault.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: MonsterV on November 13, 2021, 12:41:04 PM
Every countries handles complaints and fraud on their own way. I have also big doubts about specified gambling commissions, which it seems their only task is to make sure the gambling is legal.
They do not care so much about the players.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Reatim on November 13, 2021, 12:46:24 PM
A lot of cases have been rising in the gambling industry, as gambling become popular and more players and new site are coming up on a daily basis, a lot of fraud cases have been reported some of the cases are resolved and some other never get resolved which have lead to bad reputation for some gambling platforms.
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?
Best example is the one signature you are wearing, if this question is positively answerable then surely all of those who accused your company
will have Justice , so Thanks for boosting this thread for their Own good.

Hope there will be a concrete answer that will come here and bring them a light to their case against your company.

Every countries handles complaints and fraud on their own way. I have also big doubts about specified gambling commissions, which it seems their only task is to make sure the gambling is legal.
They do not care so much about the players.

This ~~~~


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Quidat on November 13, 2021, 12:49:45 PM
A lot of cases have been rising in the gambling industry, as gambling become popular and more players and new site are coming up on a daily basis, a lot of fraud cases have been reported some of the cases are resolved and some other never get resolved which have lead to bad reputation for some gambling platforms.
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?
If we do talk about legal fiat casinos then we could really still have the chance to fight on legal ways but talking about crypto casinos? Dont expect that much for those issues to get resolved specially if those sites turns out to be a scam.Aside on being dealing with decentralized market most of new sites doesnt really have license which means that tracing or locating on its owner would really be that hard.
If you do tend to fight or look on to those criminals then it is really almost on impossible thing.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Beparanf on November 13, 2021, 12:51:47 PM
Every countries handles complaints and fraud on their own way. I have also big doubts about specified gambling commissions, which it seems their only task is to make sure the gambling is legal.
They do not care so much about the players.

Gambling commission main scope of work is to regulate all the gambling activities and giving license to them. Any customer dispute inside the Casino is actually not there job but they can just revoke the Casino license if the Casino is showing shady behaviour towards its customer. There's a separate branch of the government that focuses on this kind of dispute and also many lawyers are available to be hire to settle all the victims claim.



Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Wiwo on November 13, 2021, 01:05:16 PM
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?
I will like to first say something about the issue of not reading the terms and conditions of each gambling sites someone is using, the terms and conditions must be read to know if the accusation is scam or not. There are some times you will think the gambling site wants to scam, it may even be scam-like but if already existing in their terms and conditions, then will not be seen as scam even if taken to court.

What matters most is money, if you know you have done the right thing, not againsting the terms and conditions, you can take the gambling site to court, but this will require money and not an option for people that have no enough money.

It is very good to use a reputed gambling site to avoid scam from betting companies.
This a perfect answer most of the gambling sites have a strong T&C which some player's failed to understand and at the end accused the site of scamming them mean while they violated the site terms and conditions.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: samcrypto on November 13, 2021, 01:08:50 PM
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?
Fraud cases takes time and you really have to get strong evidence against that gambling site but I guess, it will be more difficult to sue the developer of crypto gambling site because there's no governing bodies that can regulate them and seriously their license didn't work for this.

If you are a victim of fraud and experiencing a big problem with the crypto site you're using, make sure to have that supporting documents and compute if its worth fighting for because if not, you can just post it here or on their social accounts about their fraudulent activities, its too expensive to raise this on court for sure.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Peanutswar on November 13, 2021, 01:25:49 PM
To build a reputation into the gambling platform you must need to consider the basic rules which is having a license and different legal statements so you can get the trust of the users, its useless to fraud if you are the developer just a small amount you show your self and there's a chance you make a red tag. This is the reason why its more ideal to read the terms and condition of the platform the same with their FAQs and all about the information to make sure you feel safe.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: adzino on November 13, 2021, 01:29:14 PM
A lot of cases have been rising in the gambling industry, as gambling become popular and more players and new site are coming up on a daily basis, a lot of fraud cases have been reported some of the cases are resolved and some other never get resolved which have lead to bad reputation for some gambling platforms.
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?
You think those new casino that is here to scam people didn't take enough precaution to hide themselves? Once you get scammed by them, there is nothing you can do. You can take legal steps, but it will lead you no where. You will end up wasting your time. That's why, don't play in a casino that has no reputation at all. Play in casino that has been around for a long time. Look for casinos that are registered and has licensed. If you get scammed by them, at least you can do something about it.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: MrcMrc on November 13, 2021, 01:41:20 PM
Gambling fraud most times never get resolved and even if you take legal actions it will end as a fruitless efforts, before you play on any gambling site always try as much as possible to read the conditions of services and if you did not violate any you can try to open a scam accusations against the site to serve as a warning to others.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Mahanton on November 13, 2021, 01:51:23 PM
A lot of cases have been rising in the gambling industry, as gambling become popular and more players and new site are coming up on a daily basis, a lot of fraud cases have been reported some of the cases are resolved and some other never get resolved which have lead to bad reputation for some gambling platforms.
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?
You think those new casino that is here to scam people didn't take enough precaution to hide themselves? Once you get scammed by them, there is nothing you can do. You can take legal steps, but it will lead you no where. You will end up wasting your time. That's why, don't play in a casino that has no reputation at all. Play in casino that has been around for a long time. Look for casinos that are registered and has licensed. If you get scammed by them, at least you can do something about it.
Most people do get scammed is to those newbies who dont able to make out some research and some people who do love to test out waters but what differs them is that
some people are ready on losing their money that had been spent on testing out new sites for the sake of testing out or out of their curiosity if this one is
giving out new offers or something different which had been already existed on the market. Looking for justice? You would really be finding it out
to be impossible on this market which is close to impossible or doesnt have any chance at all.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: AicecreaME on November 13, 2021, 01:51:27 PM
A lot of cases have been rising in the gambling industry, as gambling become popular and more players and new site are coming up on a daily basis, a lot of fraud cases have been reported some of the cases are resolved and some other never get resolved which have lead to bad reputation for some gambling platforms.
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?

Foremost, it is our duty to scrutinize everything we are putting our money into. Gambling is a risk most people choose to do. Hence, it should be done responsibly. Someone must do their part in researching and checking what they are getting themselves into. In every application, game, or services there is always something called terms and conditions, as well as policy. It is the user's responsibility to read the content of terms and conditions before giving the consent to the company to do something in case you goes against for whatever is stated on it. Before agreeing, always read what is written so that you won't be at disadvantage soon after. Because once you agree without reading, you won't know what would be the do's and don'ts. You wouldn't even know if your rights will be violated or there is something skeptical about the contract.

Regarding the settlement of scams and frauds, the first step would be to gather evidences and approach the customer service representatives of the said gambling site. Try to resolve it and contain the problem to you and to the csr if it's tolerable and they are cooperating to you with your concerns. If they aren't really helpful and they keep on refusing to resolve the conflict, then that's the time for you to rise it to the local authorities and let them handle your issue with the gambling site. If this step will still not work, then I suggest you hire a lawyer to ask for legal advice and maybe take it to the court. But also know that this last suggestion would take effort, time, and especially money. If you the amount you lost is big and you really want to teach them a lesson, plus you have the means to do long process of getting your money back and holding the site liable, then do it. But still, the best advice I could give is to prevent it from happening. Don't wait for it to occur before you start doing your role in making your funds dedicated for betting secure.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Doell on November 13, 2021, 01:55:59 PM
there are many definitions of fraud in gambling but the house is usually a scam and will not pay it happens online gambling ! there is no money back guarantee unless the site is not scam due to some bugs or something for sure money will be refunded ! cases in countries are also different money can usually close cases where corruption is in legal institutions ,the solution is that we as gamblers must join a community ,same as in this forum on there is a section for that case and it is very helpful for other gamblers


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: YuginKadoya on November 13, 2021, 02:12:09 PM
there are many definitions of fraud in gambling but the house is usually a scam and will not pay it happens online gambling ! there is no money back guarantee unless the site is not scam due to some bugs or something for sure money will be refunded ! cases in countries are also different money can usually close cases where corruption is in legal institutions ,the solution is that we as gamblers must join a community ,same as in this forum on there is a section for that case and it is very helpful for other gamblers

I don't really understand what you are saying here, but in my understanding are you saying that gambling sites are scams? and if they do not return your money it is accustomed to scam people or the other way around, but I say there are surely gambling sites that are scam so we tend to play in established gambling sites that are usually shared here in the forum,

But if you are saying that all gambling sites are scams, then the easy way to handle it is to stay away from it, I say gambling sites would not pay you if you lost all your money from bets, I should say stay away from luck base only gambling site if you are not ready to lose your money, then stay away from it.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: aioc on November 13, 2021, 02:42:09 PM
A lot of cases have been rising in the gambling industry, as gambling become popular and more players and new site are coming up on a daily basis, a lot of fraud cases have been reported some of the cases are resolved and some other never get resolved which have lead to bad reputation for some gambling platforms.
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?
for those who live in a country where gambling is prohibited then making a report about fraud is pointless

but for those who live in countries where gambling is legally regulated and get a legal permit then you can report it to the authorities and surely your money they cheated will return

It's complicated if the online casinos are offshore, reporting is not sufficient, you have to hire a lawyer and follow it up by presenting your pieces of evidence, that is if you have been scammed by a big amount, hiring a lawyer to take your case is very expensive, if they have a thread here and they have an active representative here, you can open a scam accusation, I have seen a lot of complaints resolved in favor of the player, but if you are dealing with a scam site like 1XBIT your chances is very slim, every player should do their diligent research before playing in a casino.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: RealMalatesta on November 13, 2021, 03:40:15 PM
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?
If you are facing a problem with a gambling house which is registered in your country (which means they got license to operate in your country) then you can go for legal action like any other business and they need to abide for all your laws; no exceptions. This is the reason, people here do suggest about playing only in reputed houses (reputed casinos will not offer you their services if they are not licenced for your state/country.) but usually gamblers do access casinos through proxy which will end up in unable to challenge in case of any fraud.



Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: alpamar99 on November 13, 2021, 04:37:50 PM
things like this cannot be changed because for now gambling seems to have become one of the needs of some people who indeed things like this will definitely be used because it will be a pretty good business field.
but I want to make a different opinion here because indeed when someone is trapped in a fraudulent site it is based because they are seduced either by the lure of a big win or something else.
Here, too, we can definitely conclude that as long as we are not consumed by seduction and trapped in the lure of greed, everything will not be deceived.
because in my opinion something like this will definitely not be eradicated because even if one site is removed, new sites will certainly appear again.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Findingnemo on November 13, 2021, 04:42:30 PM
there are many definitions of fraud in gambling but the house is usually a scam and will not pay it happens online gambling ! there is no money back guarantee unless the site is not scam due to some bugs or something for sure money will be refunded ! cases in countries are also different money can usually close cases where corruption is in legal institutions ,the solution is that we as gamblers must join a community ,same as in this forum on there is a section for that case and it is very helpful for other gamblers
Even most of the gambling sites refused to pay the winning rewards to the users when the amount is huge and the stories csn be found in the scam accusation sections especially but when choose the best and reputed gambling sites the chances of getting scammed is less, even if there is any dispute then it can be dealt in this public forum.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Oceat on November 13, 2021, 05:14:25 PM
there are many definitions of fraud in gambling but the house is usually a scam and will not pay it happens online gambling ! there is no money back guarantee unless the site is not scam due to some bugs or something for sure money will be refunded ! cases in countries are also different money can usually close cases where corruption is in legal institutions ,the solution is that we as gamblers must join a community ,same as in this forum on there is a section for that case and it is very helpful for other gamblers
Even most of the gambling sites refused to pay the winning rewards to the users when the amount is huge and the stories csn be found in the scam accusation sections especially but when choose the best and reputed gambling sites the chances of getting scammed is less, even if there is any dispute then it can be dealt in this public forum.
I think that's the case if someone wants to be sure with their bets handled correctly if they win big in the casino/gambling sites they're playing. But for those who randomly stumbled upon which is usually happens to newbies or a person who didn't know how to do their own research. They usually end-up in a shady casino and will get scammed. And the settlement or process of trying to take your money back isn't easy especially if you didn't read their ToS or the casino would use their ToS against you and you can't do anything about it.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: romero121 on November 13, 2021, 05:30:53 PM
there are many definitions of fraud in gambling but the house is usually a scam and will not pay it happens online gambling ! there is no money back guarantee unless the site is not scam due to some bugs or something for sure money will be refunded ! cases in countries are also different money can usually close cases where corruption is in legal institutions ,the solution is that we as gamblers must join a community ,same as in this forum on there is a section for that case and it is very helpful for other gamblers
Even most of the gambling sites refused to pay the winning rewards to the users when the amount is huge and the stories csn be found in the scam accusation sections especially but when choose the best and reputed gambling sites the chances of getting scammed is less, even if there is any dispute then it can be dealt in this public forum.
I think that's the case if someone wants to be sure with their bets handled correctly if they win big in the casino/gambling sites they're playing. But for those who randomly stumbled upon which is usually happens to newbies or a person who didn't know how to do their own research. They usually end-up in a shady casino and will get scammed. And the settlement or process of trying to take your money back isn't easy especially if you didn't read their ToS or the casino would use their ToS against you and you can't do anything about it.
Not going through the tos is the big reason for traps. We seek for support when we're unable to make a withdrawal. By the time the team will brief the tos and make us stay silent as said in the above quote. Right now we've got lot many platforms and legit review service providers. Just going through that it is possible to use the trusted platforms for our gambling needs than getting scammed depositing our funds on new gambling sites.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: cabron on November 13, 2021, 05:42:11 PM
there are many definitions of fraud in gambling but the house is usually a scam and will not pay it happens online gambling ! there is no money back guarantee unless the site is not scam due to some bugs or something for sure money will be refunded ! cases in countries are also different money can usually close cases where corruption is in legal institutions ,the solution is that we as gamblers must join a community ,same as in this forum on there is a section for that case and it is very helpful for other gamblers
Even most of the gambling sites refused to pay the winning rewards to the users when the amount is huge and the stories csn be found in the scam accusation sections especially but when choose the best and reputed gambling sites the chances of getting scammed is less, even if there is any dispute then it can be dealt in this public forum.
I think that's the case if someone wants to be sure with their bets handled correctly if they win big in the casino/gambling sites they're playing. But for those who randomly stumbled upon which is usually happens to newbies or a person who didn't know how to do their own research. They usually end-up in a shady casino and will get scammed. And the settlement or process of trying to take your money back isn't easy especially if you didn't read their ToS or the casino would use their ToS against you and you can't do anything about it.

Nowadays it's almost like it's your fault when you don't do the research yourself. If a person is new to crypto and started gambling without having to learn the cons, they are likely gonna be scammed. Even the ones not playing pon casino are even scammed.

Researching is pretty much needed when you have no idea what to do. The point is to avoid getting scammed because getting scammed by a Bitcoin casino today is common, you don't get your money back and you can't sue the owner unless the scam casino owner is identified and just live in the same country. If the casino is not based in the same country, the authorities will just shrug thier shoulders.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: RILWAN on November 13, 2021, 06:10:56 PM
If the gambling company is within the region where a victim is reporting a gambling fraud to the court an action can be taking from the court if only there is a real evidence from the victim. A case where by the gambling site is abroad from the victim it will be difficult for the victimq to do anything about any kind of fraud accusation.
I guess that's can only happened in a physical casino house but if the fraud happen in an online gambling site it may be hard to get legal justice. But again if one have a good case with evidence then some justice may be possible.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: StLucifer on November 13, 2021, 06:15:26 PM
If the gambling company is within the region where a victim is reporting a gambling fraud to the court an action can be taking from the court if only there is a real evidence from the victim. A case where by the gambling site is abroad from the victim it will be difficult for the victimq to do anything about any kind of fraud accusation.
I guess that's can only happened in a physical casino house but if the fraud happen in an online gambling site it may be hard to get legal justice. But again if one have a good case with evidence then some justice may be possible.
Ya getting legal justice from an online casino is pretty difficult. Even with the evidences authorities might register your complain but dont think it can go any further from there. In most cases you will not even find a place where you can even register your complains. You can only contact their customer support and just hope they dont scam you and return your money.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Findingnemo on November 13, 2021, 07:28:09 PM
Snip~
Not going through the tos is the big reason for traps. We seek for support when we're unable to make a withdrawal. By the time the team will brief the tos and make us stay silent as said in the above quote. Right now we've got lot many platforms and legit review service providers. Just going through that it is possible to use the trusted platforms for our gambling needs than getting scammed depositing our funds on new gambling sites.
Age of the gambling site is not the only factor we should consider about when it comes to scam because even the oldest and the reputed gambling sites were caught for scamming or atleast they tried to scam people even when they didn't violate any rules. Also there are lot kf gambling sites were popped in the last two years and many of them were grown and still growing drastically.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Furious 7 on November 13, 2021, 07:43:54 PM
Snip~
Not going through the tos is the big reason for traps. We seek for support when we're unable to make a withdrawal. By the time the team will brief the tos and make us stay silent as said in the above quote. Right now we've got lot many platforms and legit review service providers. Just going through that it is possible to use the trusted platforms for our gambling needs than getting scammed depositing our funds on new gambling sites.
Age of the gambling site is not the only factor we should consider about when it comes to scam because even the oldest and the reputed gambling sites were caught for scamming or atleast they tried to scam people even when they didn't violate any rules. Also there are lot kf gambling sites were popped in the last two years and many of them were grown and still growing drastically.
I only suspect the site when a lot of problems come at that time it can't be handled so I conclude the casino could be a scam but their famous casino site will solve it in a fast and appropriate way to respond to these allegations and they are still widely trusted until now for never smearing the accusation.
As for the TOS, it is a rule that we should know about whether our region supports it or not.
But at least we can tell the difference.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: passwordnow on November 13, 2021, 07:54:08 PM
If the gambling company is within the region where a victim is reporting a gambling fraud to the court an action can be taking from the court if only there is a real evidence from the victim. A case where by the gambling site is abroad from the victim it will be difficult for the victimq to do anything about any kind of fraud accusation.
I guess that's can only happened in a physical casino house but if the fraud happen in an online gambling site it may be hard to get legal justice. But again if one have a good case with evidence then some justice may be possible.
Can also happen in an online casino, as said, if it's found and based in your respective country then you can sue them if you've got a problem against them. Or if they don't want to settle what you've found as a fault while being with them like problem in withdrawals or not having credits as you've win a specific game without any reason why you didn't get the credit. If the amount is small then for sure that you won't chase and sue them as it will just waste your resources but, if the involved amount is like hundred thousand dollars to millions, you'll do what it takes to claim it.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Alisha-k on November 13, 2021, 07:58:58 PM
There is no much legal actions taken against casinos all you have to do is ensure you verify the reputation of any casino before doing any deposit. Most of them have heavy aligation against them so ensure you research or the best of to use online casinos available on the forum.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: Johnyz on November 13, 2021, 08:13:56 PM
There is no much legal actions taken against casinos all you have to do is ensure you verify the reputation of any casino before doing any deposit. Most of them have heavy aligation against them so ensure you research or the best of to use online casinos available on the forum.
Its to hard to sue a casinos especially if you just got scammed with a small money, this is more hassle do its better to choose the best one to avoid this kind of problem, deal with the best crypto gambling site and you’ll be more happy with their services. You can just create a thread about that site so you can warn people from gambling on that site, but if you really want to take a legal action then better to talk with your lawyer, he can advise you on what to do.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: bekti3 on November 13, 2021, 08:22:09 PM
There is no much legal actions taken against casinos all you have to do is ensure you verify the reputation of any casino before doing any deposit. Most of them have heavy aligation against them so ensure you research or the best of to use online casinos available on the forum.
On the other hand, if you say the losses received due to lure and promotions, I don't think it's a hoax because their job is not only to satisfy people's desires in gambling, but their goal is business, and in business, of course they want profit.
on the other hand a lot of people say that they were cheated because they lost in the game they were doing.
even though things like this are a risk when we gamble because here the chances are 2 if you don't lose it means you win.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: AmoreJaz on November 13, 2021, 08:38:03 PM
There is no much legal actions taken against casinos all you have to do is ensure you verify the reputation of any casino before doing any deposit. Most of them have heavy aligation against them so ensure you research or the best of to use online casinos available on the forum.
On the other hand, if you say the losses received due to lure and promotions, I don't think it's a hoax because their job is not only to satisfy people's desires in gambling, but their goal is business, and in business, of course they want profit.
on the other hand a lot of people say that they were cheated because they lost in the game they were doing.
even though things like this are a risk when we gamble because here the chances are 2 if you don't lose it means you win.

also, if you don't want to be cheated, why not check the provable fairness of the site first before sending any penny to them? because running after them is a headache and usually takes a lot of your resources if ever you decide to sue them. if you lost small amount, i don't think it is in your best interest to chase them for something that you have no basis of, because it will take a toll on you. just move on and find a reputable website.
those promotions are being offered to bait potential players, so it is your job to check the condition that comes with it. because most of the time, they won't give the requirements upfront.


Title: Re: Gambling fraud and it settlements
Post by: nakamura12 on November 13, 2021, 08:51:55 PM
A lot of cases have been rising in the gambling industry, as gambling become popular and more players and new site are coming up on a daily basis, a lot of fraud cases have been reported some of the cases are resolved and some other never get resolved which have lead to bad reputation for some gambling platforms.
My question is what are the legal procedures to follow in a gambling fraud cases?
There is something you can do to those fraud gambling sites is to make a scam accusations in this forum and in other platforms to share the awareness that the gambling sites that sre fraud should be avoided. Just make sure to include the reason why it should be avoid. That way, many people will be updated with the news and they will avoid it. In stopping those fraud gambling sites success rate is 0%.