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I lost my bitcoin
My first topic in the forum
May I find what I'm looking for
I invested $56 in 7/2010 with a bitcoin investor
I paid him in 18sFHF3eD25uSRrASfoPBKBaTHjk3N1cWc
She paid me interest in bitcoins and tracked the transfers I found
First address 1AYLzYN7SGu5FQLBTADBzqKm4b6Udt6Bw6
Second address 1Ee3rLap7y5byLHZnkHuuJjZ2eoYNsB9t3
Look at the date the $56 was added and the dates of the dividend still paid each period of the fiscal year over the years
But I miss access to the investor I put my money in
I paid by clicking on the ad from bux.to. Now the site is closed
Funds transferred through Payoneer to the company you invested in or the platform
But I miss their address and contact numbers, or who has information to help me contact me via email
To the platform If you have seen my message, please contact me via email
al-khamisi2011@hotmail.com
to get my money back
I used to save my emails but I left the email and due to the email usage policy the emails were deleted because the mail was left for several years without logging in
is over

You have been a victim of one of the oldest tricks in the book. Be happy that the amount you gave the scammers ($56) wasn't that high and try to not be so naive next time.

Look at the title, the balances are still there and their value is increasing

These two addresses are 2 completely random addresses from the blockchain. They were first seen 10 and 8 years ago respectively and neither have ever spent any coins. It is simply impossible for these scammers to have any kind of access to such large amounts of bitcoin ($468 million) that have never been moved for a decade, and yet need $56 investments!

It improves readability if you don't mention dollars but Bitcoin amounts or even better txids (transaction IDs).

Who created those addresses? If you created them, you should search your files for the private key you created.
If someone else created the addresses (which would be my guess), you can't access them. If you don't have the private key, the addresses aren't yours.

Bitcoin doesn't pay dividend.

I think what OP is saying is he bought $56 worth of bitcoin back in 2010, and these are the addresses he received it to, which he has since lost access to.

The incoming transactions you are seeing on those addresses are dust attacks and advertising spam. They not dividends being paid.

Bux.to was a scam: https://techcrunch.com/2008/03/17/surprise-the-buxto-pyramid-scheme-is-a-fraud/

What’s even sadder in the whole story is that it took 10 years for someone to tell him that someone had cheated on him, and who knows how much longer it will take for him to realize that this is indeed true. Yet the OP felt at least for a moment like a person who owns millions - I just hope someone doesn’t take advantage of that and charge him the service of recovery that wealth.

I and the one who took my money under the pretext of investing, we could not communicate with each other and the money is still there, and I see that the investor is committed to a return rate of 4%, but the price of bitcoin has reached the moon. Do not forget that I bought 5600 pieces of bitcoin in the summer of 2010

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I'm trying
He created the addresses and sent the bitcoins to his wallet
He described to me several options in favor of buying Bitcoin, which are to save it in a memory or an electronic wallet, or invest it with the investor.

You didn't buy any bitcoin. You gave your money to a scammer and didn't receive anything.
Also, as stated in previous posts, if you don't have the private key of the address in question, that's not yours.

I feel you invested money on a scam website and they showed you a fake number as your bitcoin balance.
If that website is closed now, it means that you got scammed and you have never had any bitcoin.

Whoever "he" is, I'm pretty sure he didn't create those addresses. I found a completely different (and rather interesting) story for address 1AYLzYN7SGu5FQLBTADBzqKm4b6Udt6Bw6:

The amount I invested came from clicking on the second ad, the amount is only 56 dollars, a very little compared to what the price of Bitcoin has reached, but tracking the blockchain will find that it reached these addresses
And the story that you mentioned for the first address, please send the link, and then my wallet before distribution reached more than 8500

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If you have knowledge of who sells bitcoin in 2010 accepting payment through Payoneer company, tell me that you also know the platforms that support the sale of bitcoin, as on these dates they were fought and shunned by everyone

Actually you didn't lost your bitcoin OP - you never had any to begin with. This kind of scam is always being reported in the forum - and other social gatherings such as Reddit - and will probably never end stop into tricking people that are less aware of how BTC works.  Even if someone did took your 56 dollars, bought BTC with them and started giving you dividends they would never just send you an address for you to "watch" the dividends flux, they would at least ask you for an address of which you control the private keys. The fact that he/she instead sent you an address (or two) only shows that whoever talked with you knew more about BTC/blockchain than you and took advantage of it. The fact that both addresses hold BTC that haven't been touched for years reveals that whoever gave you those addresses never really had any control of them.

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On a not so related discussion for OP, does anyone understand why this address to where OP paid - 18sFHF3eD25uSRrASfoPBKBaTHjk3N1cWc - appears to be related to our forum? Whenever I run it on BitInfoCharts[1] or OXT[2], our forum name appears related to it... I wonder if more experienced users could shed a light on it.

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[1]https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/18sFHF3eD25uSRrASfoPBKBaTHjk3N1cWc (https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/18sFHF3eD25uSRrASfoPBKBaTHjk3N1cWc)
[2]https://oxt.me/address/18sFHF3eD25uSRrASfoPBKBaTHjk3N1cWc (https://oxt.me/address/18sFHF3eD25uSRrASfoPBKBaTHjk3N1cWc)

You don't seem to be understanding what people are telling you.

You were scammed! You are not going to get any money or any bitcoins. You sent $56 to a scammer. They tricked you into sending them money. They were never going to give you any bitcoins, ever!

Unfortunately neither site has any explanation on their "branding" system but in my experience from similar block explorers that "brand" addresses like this is that they search the internet for places where the addresses were mentioned (usually for the first time) and use that (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=282879.msg3043855#msg3043855) as the reference. The one on bitinfocharts has about 3 hundred addresses in it!

Yes, as pooya87 mentioned, that address seems to have been first mentioned on this forum in some whale hunter thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=282879.msg3043855#msg3043855) back in 2013. I don't think there are any other connections to bitcointalk.org.

Looks like my money belongs to this whale that was mentioned in this forum
Not for fundraising
Do you know whale
He collected more than 30,000 bitcoins

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Who knows this whale
18sFHF3eD25uSRrASfoPBKBaTHjk3N1cWc

It turned out to be true that it will take you a while to figure out what really happened, because you keep claiming that you bought Bitcoin, when in fact you didn't buy anything but a false promise. To understand what everyone else is trying to explain to you at all, you need to learn some basics - for starters I advise you to try to understand the difference between a public address and a private key, and if you can figure it out, you may stop chasing the ghosts of the past.


No one can know whose address it is if that person wants to remain anonymous, understand that the BTC address is not the same as the bank account.

That address hasn't been "Active" (ie. spent coins) since 2011. It was most likely a deposit address on one of the old exchanges like Mt. Gox or something. Mt. Gox started in July 2010 too... which would line up with when you say you sent the bitcoin to the "investor" :-\

The investor's money is lost when the company goes bankrupt

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There are rumors about the settlement of a bankrupt company, does it affect the decline of Bitcoin?

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Yeah I suppose it had something to due with that, the fact that it amazes me is that either someone manually tagged the account or then the "system" behind it is crawnling the web search for the (first?) mention of that address somewhere in the Internet. Spooky stuff.
I've used Crystal Explorer[1] and if we assume the information is correct then the owner of that address is a miner pool called Eligius. If we look up for it[2] we learn than pool was founded by Luke Dashjr[3], one of Bitcoin Core developers. If you want to spend some time expanding the transactions associated you'll see that some BTC was eventually sent to Mybitcoin[4] - an online wallet - and eventually was sent back to Eligius pool (the list goes on and on). Point is, just move on to another topic of your life OP, admit that you've been scammed and be very much autistic whenever the same situation appears to you (let's hope not).

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[1]https://explorer.crystalblockchain.com/visualization/new/18sFHF3eD25uSRrASfoPBKBaTHjk3N1cWc (https://explorer.crystalblockchain.com/visualization/new/18sFHF3eD25uSRrASfoPBKBaTHjk3N1cWc)
[2]https://en.bitcoinwiki.org/wiki/Luke_Dashjr (https://en.bitcoinwiki.org/wiki/Luke_Dashjr)
[3]https://github.com/luke-jr (https://github.com/luke-jr)
[4]https://www.mybitcoin.com/ (https://www.mybitcoin.com/)

The investor's money is lost when you sent it to a scammer. You never owned the coins in questions.

Slightly off topic, but if this is happening with a free block explorer which anyone can use, imagine how much more is happening with companies like Coinbase Analytics which are bringing in tens of millions of dollars in contracts from the government to spy on addresses?

I had almost forgotten of that side of Coinbase o_e_l_e_o, thank you for reminding me of it! I think it goes along the idea that governments will do anything to trace whatever kind of "money" (as a concept) that they can. Even Coinbase itself has its eyes[1] on both IRS and DEA as potential clients for their analytical software even though they've just signed[2] a contract with Homeland Security[2] this may just be the beginning of it all[2][3]. Despite being "masked" as Homeland Security we are able to see[4] that the agencies behind it, at least for now, are both U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and U.S. Secret Service (USSS) so who knows what they are really looking/going after...

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[1]https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/71261/coinbase-is-selling-blockchain-analytics-software-to-the-us-secret-service (https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/71261/coinbase-is-selling-blockchain-analytics-software-to-the-us-secret-service)
[2]https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/09/20/coinbase-signs-deal-with-homeland-security-to-provide-analytics-software/ (https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/09/20/coinbase-signs-deal-with-homeland-security-to-provide-analytics-software/)
[3]https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_70US0920C70090044_7009_-NONE-_-NONE- (https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_70US0920C70090044_7009_-NONE-_-NONE-)

It's not the beginning by any means.

https://www.usaspending.gov/keyword_search/chainalysis
https://www.usaspending.gov/keyword_search/ciphertrace
https://www.usaspending.gov/keyword_search/coinbase
https://www.usaspending.gov/keyword_search/elliptic

IRS, FBI, DEA, ICE, CBP, SEC, CFTC, Secret Service, even the Navy, Air Force, and Army. The list goes on. 100s of contracts from dozens of agencies. There is barely a US government agency or department which hasn't paid for the services of one or more blockchain analysis companies.

Most people aren't aware of this - I think that probably a large % of people that use BTC think that they are "hiding" away their money in the blockchain (so as to not be found by anyone) but they forget the fact that they've used a centralized exchange with KYC procedures to buy/sell the BTC/other crypto along the way. This is specially true regarding newcomers that arrive to the scene by means of news being spread on the social networks about blockchain and aren't really aware of how traceable they can be if they so desire to use these services - after the first purchase it's just a matter of following the trace to whoever transactions they do in the future (not talking about employing mixers into the equation since most people (average John's) aren't even aware of their existence).

Even in the 4 companies that you've linked o_e_l_e_o, we can see that the biggest entity that paid them was IRS itself (except for Coinbase case where he was the second biggest one). Now, more than ever, we should really push people to try their best to make their transactions on P2P networks where KYC is non-existent. Whenever I find myself arguing with my friends - more during peak prices of BTC - I always deter them from using centralized exchanges in favor of non-centralized ones although the fight is uneven as these are always less known to the general audience and they end up thinking that those services are "less" trustful than the likes of Coinbase, Kraken, etc ...

Without bullying here to enrich the knowledge
ok
mt gox had 850,000 bitcoins then stolen and 200,000 bitcoins recovered
I don't understand that I never found my money
I only write for information
I know that lost bitcoins will never come back
I share with you here because your forum is specialized in Bitcoin
Regarding mt gox, you will not return it to me because I did not file a bankruptcy lawsuit for the company

The government does not want the unknown

Do you know that

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My dear, I found this on your site and my money has been diverted from it
Check out some Bitcoin transfers

I know I'm new here, but I personally invest a lot of time/energy into bitcoin. So, if you trust me, you can send pledge money to this address: 1NLPqEyWo9HzPmXG2H8uGG4NBFCV31NarD

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=611


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You mean $56? You're not making any sense.

I don't trust you. Are you begging for Bitcoin on an address that received 8819 BTC in the past? Signing a message from that address might make your story about "investing" more credible.

What does bytemaster have to do with this?
Update: see below. @khamisi9: please use the quote button to avoid confusion.

See this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697.msg7405#msg7405).
I can't really understand why khamisi9 copy-pasted that post here.


Edit:
See this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697.msg67083#msg67083) too.
The address comes from mybitcoin. (I don't know whether this service exists now or not).

Edit 2:
Seems that mybitcoin was a custodial service [1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=26224.0), 2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=29055)]. So, no one should have access to the private key of the address in question.

He should have used the quote-button:
The quote comes from this topic: Bounty for Bitcoin Animated Movie [won] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697.0). this matches what I wrote here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5371892.msg58469362#msg58469362).

It's not your money. It never was.
It's as if you paid someone $56 for the gold in Fort Knox. But the guy you paid doesn't own Fort Knox. You got scammed. That's all there is to it.

Look at wallet.dat my money they have to pay me
See reply No https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697.msg7442#msg7442
Looks like my money belongs to this member
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=611
Is this person alive
The amount is very small, 56 dollars
I want him to tell me the truth

Good luck with that! Accepting reality is easier though.

Regarding the mybitcoin wallet, this wallet no longer exists and there are no communication tools to respond to

Please be more careful posting stuff like this. This idiot is now harassing me claiming this "Crystal Explorer" website is infallible and that I stole his coins. :/

I didn't bother you, I was asking about some things

See mt.gox's reply sent by post

If you are not a creditor who has an already relevant account in our system

dude

give up.

stop bothering people. there is literally no chance in hell you ever had any coins. they gave you fake addresses they knew you didn't understand.

they probably gave those same addresses to other people.

you got scammed hard. if you don't have a wallet.dat file on an old computer somewhere, then you never had any bitcoin to begin with. you just had an email or a print out.

And I'd like to grow wings, fly and spit diamonds.
Don't see that happening either....

I am so sorry for your loss... You're a victim of one of the books... As there have been a lot of cases but you must consider yourself lucky you gave only 56$ of those scammers

You've been told multiple times, by multiple people... Your money is gone.

You're not getting it back. You never will. You're not getting any bitcoins either and you never had any to start with. You need to accept that your $56 is lost. Gone forever.

Good luck it's just $56

How did you get to the mine that specializes in mining and who claims that it does not collect money!!!!
According to the Blockchain Crystal, it was traced that it was transferred from the owners of Bitcoin and was not from mining
It must be proven that it was not from the purchase of an investor
and switched to mybitcoin.com

Also, this platform was closed and the money from those who bought it was lost

Where did the money from those who bought on this platform go?
Have you evaporated into the air?

I want to enjoy the story because it's just $56

And I also want it back

Privacy is missing in bitcoin

If you mean mybitcoin.com, the platform was compromised and 51% of Bitcoin as stolen and shortly it's closed. They says there's option to claim 49% of your balance, although i don't know if anyone tried it successfully.

Source: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MyBitcoin (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MyBitcoin)


Or move on and use your time productively.

Yes I mean this
Tell me where to file my claim
or claim link
or the claim center
As for my time, I put it less than 15 minutes a day

There are no "claims" in Bitcoin, only signed transactions.

But ser, I was told their would be claims. insert *john travolta look around meme*

Your First Address still active and you Received total of
6511.96162281 BTC and you didn’t send any amount of bitcoin to any address yet. You received last 0.00000666 BTC at the time of 2021-11-09 18:11 that means 26 days ago from today.
Reference address 1 - https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1AYLzYN7SGu5FQLBTADBzqKm4b6Udt6Bw6
Note : First transcation has been made by this wallet 2011-04-24  not 2010

And Your Second Address also still active and you received total of  1299.98112557 BTC and you transfer 1299.98000000 BTC at the time of 2021-11-21 04:42 that means 15 days ago from today. And you also done many transcation in 2021.
Reference address 2 - https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1Ee3rLap7y5byLHZnkHuuJjZ2eoYNsB9t3
Note : First transcation has been made by this wallet 2013-10-05  not 2010

But you said on your post you bought btc in 2010 and you lost your wallet. What do you actually mean by this post?

I can't believe these are your wallets address. You're just fucking Joking with us

You're about 10 years too late... according to this story, the claim form was here: https://www.mybitcoin.com/claim.php but that no longer exists.

And if you never had a mybitcoin.com account... and it was just used by someone who stole your money, then you wouldn't be eligible to any of it anyway.

I still don't quite get how you don't understand (or simply refuse to accept) that you were conned out of $56 and it's gone. ???


Pretty much yes... it would have been spent on "hookers and blackjack"... like most money that gets stolen and subsequently spent, it's unrecoverable... like your $56.

The page in question seems to have existed.
I just made a search and found the following thread. I read some of the posts. Some people confirm that they have received their fund. (They didn't receive all their fund, of course. They got only a portion of that).

MyBitcoin Claim Form Up! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=35606.0)

Governor's claim page does not exist
in a
mybitcoin.com/claim

The page did exist in 2011 and doesn't exist now. This is already mentioned by HCP.

It is not safe to put any fund in a custodial wallet even for a second let alone 10 years.
As mentioned multiple times, your fund is gone and there is no way to receive that. Forget that 56 dollar and if you are still interested in bitcoin, learn the lesson and from now, use a secure non-custodial wallet. In this way, you will be the real owner of your fund and will never experience such issues.

I also checked some old thread from 2011 and there are decent amount of people who say they got portion of their Bitcoin, so looks like it's existed for some time. Additionally, i found out the claim page was only up for 30 days, so no wonder there are very few posts which mention link of claim page and lack of web archive.

Do you have the data of the person to whom you sent the private address on the unknown person's email?
I want the email of the unknown person, his name, does he have an account on BitcoinTalk, when was the last time he logged in to the platform, and how did you get his email

I can see that you are very curious to get your money back but you need to chill and get something doing if you can. Many of us here had lost money from ignorance and we keeping learning everyday to be more conscious about investment that we don't have idea about. I can see that you want this info so bad but you need to say bye to the past and prepare for what the future has for you.
Good luck in your findings 👍

I want this bytemaster id Provide me with the email the private keys were sent to, Bitcoin (donation money)

why didn't you just buy the bitcoin yourself? you must have known your "investor" didn't have an exclusive line on buying btc.. localbitcoins was around. and honestly, why the hell are you hanging onto to this after so long? you gotta let it go. id rather hear about your first gf that banged your best friend in 1994. i'll bet $56 you're still telling that story.

I can't believe I really had the patience to read the thread from the beginning (2021) till date. I feel the OP has something he is not saying to the community and he is very interested in one thing. Someone cannot keep looking for a lost $65 for over 2yrs. But whatever thing he is looking for, 2yrs is OK to cure his curiosity.

The thread is only 3 pages. If he is suspecting someone around him, he can use 2 years to track the person because at this stage you wouldn't go and ask the person openly, but using some detective moves to know the movements of the suspect. $65  is a big amount of money in some countries but not all. The mistake the op made was not directly buying the bitcoin either from exchange or p2p.

Here we go again, so it seems...

OP, you aren't the same person as this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5454918.0

only with a different story, are you?

Is this the day of the week dedicated to post coin recovery attempts with scams as their origin?

Just as @Lucius said, it's obvious for sure that OP is yet to wake up from his deep sleep in realizing that his money is way gone. He's should be grateful that his  credulity didn't cost him a huge sum, for there are some persons that lost thousands of dollars to scammer but later moved on with their life so OP should follow suit and stop this 3years of ranting.

He has returned with the same character for the past 3 years, his actions indicate he does not accept being scammed $ 56 because he did not consider the risk if buying bitcoins not on an exchange and p2p. Maybe $56 is not a high amount that is hard to forget but he calculated $56 bitcoin equivalent at 2010 price so you try to do whatever you can to get that balance but sadly there is no solution to this problem but trust me your scammed money stays $56 forever and you must accept the risk of loss, make the experience valuable to avoid the same loss in the future.

I havel, just a small amount of $30 in my bitcoin wallet Electrum.
They are in there since 2017.

I lost the password and the 16 words to reactivate my account.

It is not that much money. But is there still a way to get my coins?

If you do not have a seed phrase, then you have hopelessly lost access to your wallet. Try to remember if you saved your seed phrase somewhere on another medium, or wrote it down, as Electrum itself warns you to be very careful about saving each time so that you can restore everything in the future.

Sh*t!

I wrote the seed phrase down. But no idea where I left it.
Oh well, $30 are somewhere in "the air". I guess no one has them.

Just a weird feelijng. I do not care that much about the $30-.

Sadly, there's no way. Your seedphrase is your key, and if you don't have it then you don't have access to your funds. But who knows... Luck might smile on you some days and you might find it in a place you least expected. Just as you have been advised, you really need to be careful next time and keep your seedphrase somewhere very safe. Imagine if the $30 worth of BTC, was something you bought around 2010 or 2011? It was have been worth a fortune and I doubt if you would have been your real self.

Electrum in 2017 did not generate 16 word seed phrases. The seed phrase would have been 12 words long if Electrum generated it itself, or 12/15/18/21/24 words long if you imported it from somewhere else.

Regardless, if you don't have it then it is useless to you. Your only other option will be to bruteforce your password, but this will only be possible if either you can remember some information about the password or you used a very short and weak password.

Since quite some time the default number of seed recovery mnemonic words that Electrum shows you to backup your wallet is 12, not 16. In recent post others told you that already. You may have used the optional feature of an additional mnemonic passphrase and devoted 4 additional words to that. It's something that only you can know, though.

Unless you wrote down the recovery words and can find them, there's no way with the available energy and computational power in our solar system to recover your wallet.


With self-custody comes some responsibility, too. You should avoid such a situation of not knowing where you left your mnemonic words backup. It shows you have no idea of the importance of those mnemonic words, regardless of the stored value.

You need to more careful about transaction. And for cryptocurrency market anyone need proper knowledge about cryptocurrency. Without proper knowledge anyone cannot gain from here. And they will fall in scam. And will loss valuable fund. You loss $56 but i think this $ teach you to careful. If you learn properly about cryptocurrency market and carefully handle this currency you will be profitable feom this market. But if you will be unable to learn properly you will be losser from here. So to avoid loss from here you need knowledge about cryptocurrency market.

You can't loose something that you likely never owned in the first place. Not your (private) keys, not your (own) coins. As simple as that.
You likely had no contract or something similar.

You threw money at someone you didn't know or had a contract with. There were transactions in 2010 of which you likely don't know whom they belong to, nor do you have any possession of those coins, simply because you don't have any private keys for those addresses.

The coins are now worth a fortune, yes, that's why you hold on to it and can't let go. And you still believe you have some sort of rights to those coins?
Wake up from you dreams. You very likely have been scammed in the first place and you never had any ownership to those coins. Period!

if those btc addreses has been yours -> do you have a privatekeys or maybe part privatekeys of it? to submit as proof?

I can't even imagine op getting his coin back after so many years of this transaction and he noe came back after many months to claim his coin which it is obvious that the amount if Bitcoin is lost forever. Since the cryptocurrency market is anonymous, how does op thinks that he can get his Bitcoin back when things already gone wrong many months ago.
 Not your key, not your coin! It is just like when an centralized exchange lick your crypto asset and you are coming here to complain after so many months of getting your coins back when it is obvious that when you don't have a key to a house, then you can't have access to it. Very clear!

Please, do not ask other users to disclose private keys or parts of it as for almost any valid reasons this is bad practice and habit. In the OP's case he never had any coins which he claims to own on one or more of his own addresses and thus he obviously doesn't have any useful private keys. Private keys are obviously never to be shared in the public, so just don't ask for them!

I completely understand how concerned you are about scammers, but I assume I lost all my data, including email
You are connected to recover lost or blocked accounts. I gave it the user to look up the account and it didn't give me an email, but it didn't respond to me.

I'm not sure if I understand properly what you wanted to say. In this forum in user settings it's possible to block to receive private messages from Newbie accounts as spam is more likely to come from those. But I assume that you would've received some sort of error message if that were the case for you.

It's unlikely that other users here would give you their email address. At least I wouldn't do that.