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Title: Do you think dkbit98's behavior is acceptable? Trust system abuse?
Post by: naim027 on November 30, 2021, 07:07:54 AM
Well, Things started from this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364918.0) created by Poker Player (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2836461). Last night. I was writing on his thread and suddenly he locked the topic. So I PM'd him and told him if it is possible to open the thread again. So that I can leave my post there since it was written already. He responded and I posted.

After that, dkbit98 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1410401) created a thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5373948.0) and accused me that I am the alt of "Poker Player (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2836461)" without any proof or evidence. And he said he can prove the connection in a minute but failed to prove that.

I can show the connection in few minutes, but I am not in the mood for alt witch hunts now and that was never the point of this topic.
Sending merits to your own alt accounts and talking to yourself is also not cool.


Also, The Pharmacist left question for him and he is silent.

I can show the connection in few minutes, but I am not in the mood for alt witch hunts now and that was never the point of this topic.
OK, well you did bring it up as well as lightlord's alleged health issues, which I have my doubts about (but to respect you and this thread, that's the last mention I'll make of the latter).  If you do, in fact, have evidence of Poker Player and naim027 being alts that you could present within minutes--as you said--why don't you just do that?  It's not a witch hunt, and it would explain what everyone here is spending time speculating about.

Saying something like "Oh, I could instantly prove so-and-so are alt accounts but I just don't have time for that" is just a backhanded slap in the face to whoever it is that's being accused.  It would be better to either not make a statement like that or show the evidence if you've got it.  Just saying.

However, I never knew Poker Player (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2836461) before yesterday. I don't know where is he from. But, Everyone can see from my recent Local board thread that I am from Bangladesh.

Even, he left neutral feedback on my profile saying I am an alt of "Poker Player (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2836461)" without any proof and evidence.

Do you think his behavior is acceptable? Did he abuse the trust system?


Title: Re: Do you think dkbit98's behavior is acceptable? Trust system abuse?
Post by: Poker Player on November 30, 2021, 07:11:43 AM
LMAO. I was thinking of creating a similar thread.

He is leaving the tags in neutral because he knows that if he were to leave those feedbacks in negative, totally invented and without evidence, it would be an abuse of the trust system.

It also left me a "neutral" tag but in a negative spirit saying: "Cyberbully insulting and harassing other members.
Part of my ignore list".

The first part is obviously false, as I just said "go fuck yourself" to him after previous insults and the concept of harassing implies a continuity. In other words, totally made up because he didn't like that I dismantled his garbage arguments with my weighty arguments.



Title: Re: Do you think dkbit98's behavior is acceptable? Trust system abuse?
Post by: Charles-Tim on November 30, 2021, 07:18:02 AM
Trsut system should more be about scam related accusations in this regard, I too saw a thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5373948.new#new) recently created by dkbit98 alleging both accounts can be alts, but it is getting clear that both accounts might not be alts. I believe Poker Player is more acquainted to this forum than to do something like that. What I can just say is for you all to forget about this, dkbit98 also needs to forget about this. Letting things get back to normal than a case that has already been solved.



I remembered I sent pm to someone before to open his thread so that I can post. Although, the person decided not to lock the thread again for long.


Title: Re: Do you think dkbit98's behavior is acceptable? Trust system abuse?
Post by: naim027 on November 30, 2021, 07:29:12 AM
Trust system should more be about scam-related accusations in this regard, I too saw a thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5373948.new#new) recently created by dkbit98 alleging both accounts can be alts, but it is getting clear that both accounts might not be alts. I believe Poker Player is more acquainted with this forum than doing something like that. What I can just say is for you all to forget about this, dkbit98 also needs to forget about this. Letting things get back to normal than a case that has already been solved.



I remembered I sent an o someone before to open his thread so that I can post. Although, the person decided not to lock the thread again for long.

I agreed with you. The things were supposed to be normal. But, He created that thread and made serious accusations against me. I wouldn't create this thread if he didn't leave neutral feedback on my accounts. It could be worthy if he had any proof/evidence. Since he does not have any proof/evidence, how could he leave feedback based on that? I would like to hear from him. And also from other DT members.

IDK if it's trust system abuse.


Title: Re: Do you think dkbit98's behavior is acceptable? Trust system abuse?
Post by: Poker Player on November 30, 2021, 07:32:15 AM
I agreed with you. The things were supposed to be normal. But, He created that thread and made serious accusations against me. I wouldn't create this thread if he didn't leave neutral feedback on my accounts. It could be worthy if he had any proof/evidence.

IDK if it's trust system abuse.

I also agree with Charles-Tim. The best thing would be to forget this whole thing that started because of a toddler's tantrum.

But don't worry, a neutral tag is not abuse of the trust system. He made it that way so he could accuse without accusing properly. In other words: he hasn't had enough balls.


Title: Re: Do you think dkbit98's behavior is acceptable? Trust system abuse?
Post by: naim027 on November 30, 2021, 07:35:12 AM
I agreed with you. The things were supposed to be normal. But, He created that thread and made serious accusations against me. I wouldn't create this thread if he didn't leave neutral feedback on my accounts. It could be worthy if he had any proof/evidence.

IDK if it's trust system abuse.

I also agree with Charles-Tim. The best thing would be to forget this whole thing that started because of a toddler's tantrum.

But don't worry, a neutral tag is not abuse of the trust system. He made it that way so he could accuse without accusing properly. In other words: he hasn't had enough balls.

Does it mean that I can leave a neutral feedback on everyone's account including Satoshi, theymos, without any evidence? If yes. I would like to start from today.


Title: Re: Do you think dkbit98's behavior is acceptable? Trust system abuse?
Post by: Poker Player on November 30, 2021, 07:36:05 AM
Does it mean that I can leave a neutral feedback on everyone's account including Satoshi, theymos, without any evidence? 

That's the problem, strictly speaking it's not abuse but it borders on it in my opinion.


Title: Re: Do you think dkbit98's behavior is acceptable? Trust system abuse?
Post by: Timelord2067 on November 30, 2021, 07:49:39 AM
At best, this thread is a feable impersonation of an echo-chamber of the other thread (and lends itself to give credence that the two UID's are indeed Alts).


Title: Re: Do you think dkbit98's behavior is acceptable? Trust system abuse?
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on November 30, 2021, 08:07:33 AM
At one point, everyone involved should take a step back and consider if opening a new thread or writing a new post is childish. If it is childish, you should refrain from making a new thread/post.

My advice is to stop with the drama.


Title: Re: Do you think dkbit98's behavior is acceptable? Trust system abuse?
Post by: Poker Player on November 30, 2021, 08:29:52 AM
At one point, everyone involved should take a step back and consider if opening a new thread or writing a new post is childish. If it is childish, you should refrain from making a new thread/post.

My advice is to stop with the drama.

I agree with you partially. But I think we have reached a point that goes beyond childish: to what extent can one leave neutral-colored but clearly negative baseless feedbacks. And whether that is an abuse of the trust sytem.

That's the point, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Do you think dkbit98's behavior is acceptable? Trust system abuse?
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on November 30, 2021, 08:49:23 AM
At one point, everyone involved should take a step back and consider if opening a new thread or writing a new post is childish. If it is childish, you should refrain from making a new thread/post.

My advice is to stop with the drama.

I agree with you partially. But I think we have reached a point that goes beyond childish: to what extent can one leave neutral-colored but clearly negative baseless feedbacks. And whether that is an abuse of the trust sytem.

That's the point, in my opinion.
If you are concerned about trust ratings received, I would suggest that both of you to try to work out your differences in private first. If talks break down, or one of you is unresponsive, a thread in which the person opening the thread is not acting childish may be appropriate.


Title: Re: Do you think dkbit98's behavior is acceptable? Trust system abuse?
Post by: Poker Player on November 30, 2021, 08:52:46 AM
If you are concerned about trust ratings received, I would suggest that both of you to try to work out your differences in private first. If talks break down, or one of you is unresponsive, a thread in which the person opening the thread is not acting childish may be appropriate.

No, I am not concerned. This is more of a general question: where is the limit in color-neutral but clearly negative baseless tags?


Title: Re: Do you think dkbit98's behavior is acceptable? Trust system abuse?
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on November 30, 2021, 09:08:31 AM
If you are concerned about trust ratings received, I would suggest that both of you to try to work out your differences in private first. If talks break down, or one of you is unresponsive, a thread in which the person opening the thread is not acting childish may be appropriate.

No, I am not concerned. This is more of a general question: where is the limit in color-neutral but clearly negative baseless tags?
If you are not concerned about any rating you received, I would advise you to move on and ignore it. If you have an issue with a rating you received (regardless of if the rating is "baseless"), again, I would advise you to try to work out your differences privately before opening a thread filled with drama.


Title: Re: Do you think dkbit98's behavior is acceptable? Trust system abuse?
Post by: Poker Player on November 30, 2021, 09:38:46 AM
Problem solved. He's deleted the feeback. I have also deleted mine.

I believe that discussions are something normal in forums and I in fact it is not the first heated discussion I've had here, but better not let things get out of hand.

I think it's better to make peace, as it seems it's going to happen, and that's it.

I do think the question about color-neutral but negative spirit tags is interesting to be debated, about where is the limit, but maybe that's a matter for another thread.