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Title: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: dvndr007 on November 30, 2021, 09:16:19 AM
There are two kinds information rolling around in this form:

1) Some members are giving information- This kind of information maybe not required in OP, due to lack of knowledge they want to give it bcoz they think this is right and we know better.

2) Some members share information- Sharing information is where we share what we know, here anyone can help anyone even newbies can teach a legendary this is the only right way.

what you think about it?       


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on November 30, 2021, 09:35:13 AM
Give and share are two identical terms so giving information is likely sharing too. I don't see any difference in terms or meaning of what you meant. But you make it sound like complicated actually.

Helping a newbie doesn't mean you need to be specifics whether you are teaching is definitely right or wrong. Some members already know that when you shared something. If it's correct then they will use that information of not, ignore or someone will approach you that it's wrong.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Oshosondy on November 30, 2021, 09:44:15 AM
what you think about it?       
I do not see any clear explanation given to "give" and "share" information. You only mean people should suggest what is the difference between water and water. Give and share mean the same thing.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: YOSHIE on November 30, 2021, 09:58:23 AM
There are two kinds information rolling around in this form:
Which (form) and (information) do you mean, I don't really understand what you mean, can you explain for a layman like me, your goals and intentions.

what you think about it?        
No, I just thought the title of your topic, I can't help thinking, does anyone else read back and forth (share and give), what's the difference.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: DdmrDdmr on November 30, 2021, 10:31:29 AM
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There’s barely any, if at all, colloquial difference between the two expressions, and I doubt the idea is to play around with dictionary interpretations. The only thing I can think of, is that you are trying to distinguish between a more authoritative (by means of knowledge) way of sharing information, versus a more down to earth and easier going manner.

On the tone of this conceptually abstract dilemma, I’d place the focus on the recipient of the information, who should not take things for granted whomever says it, and play along the lines of contrasting the information with multiple sources. This is so in real life, and certainly of the forum, where people often write what they (think they) know, but not always know what they should.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: dvndr007 on November 30, 2021, 10:47:18 AM
Give and Share are two different words that means their meanings are different too.  

I give you one apple and I share one apple with you, they are completely different ?

Sharing is caring & giving is loosing when we give something to someone to overcome our emotions our way of dealing become different.

So, its a very important subject when we consider quality posting.

 


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: mk4 on November 30, 2021, 11:08:03 AM
What matters most is what the information being distributed in the first place actually is, rather than what this "giving" vs "sharing" stuff is.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Accardo on November 30, 2021, 03:51:34 PM
I was thinking that OP was talking about malicious information relating to members details. But, I don't see any sense in what he just wrote. In my understanding maybe Newbies give information a kind of asking questions, while members share information inform of answers. OP should make us to comprehend what we just read.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: trickys on November 30, 2021, 07:47:31 PM
I'll use an example: just because scalping worked for me, doesn't mean it will work for you.
Sometimes, people genuinely want to help and if OP doesn't know how to use the info, it's not posters fault.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Lafu on November 30, 2021, 07:58:41 PM
Sometimes, people genuinely want to help and if OP doesn't know how to use the info, it's not posters fault.
Thats why its needed when you asking for help or have an question about everything that you write that in your post !
This will give the experienced Users more Information and they can show or write the helping Information in the answer.
And that is not only the case here on the Forum , this counts also in real life .

But yeah give and share Informations are nearly the same .
If i share something that i know but havnt used for myself i give you something.
If i give you the Information that you need i share it with you .

Its a vicious circle  :D


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Cryptions on November 30, 2021, 09:28:12 PM
Giving / sharing information is the same, but doing so referring to the source of the information / ways to validate it - that's the deal!


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Smartvirus on November 30, 2021, 09:38:25 PM
Give and share are two identical terms so giving information is likely sharing too. I don't see any difference in terms or meaning of what you meant. But you make it sound like complicated actually.
To be sincere, I was really confused at what message OP was or is trying to get across myself. It almost felt like, the user just wanted to post something or perhaps, didn't really find the way to better package his or her information.

What I would add is that, the various users on the forum do there best to pass information as they see fit and hope that the message is clear while, trying as well to develop on there writing and presentation skills. It's not easy to put words together that makes sense, let alone having your message properly digested by a reader.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: TelolettOm on November 30, 2021, 11:13:21 PM
Sharing mean we are giving something to them. We guve something to others by sharing.
What's matter of this two terms?
I personally will not make any problems of these two.
I will orefer to concer in what information and source that we can give or share. And if we took it from someone, we must include quote or link of the source.
Every information is precious here in the forum


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Oceat on November 30, 2021, 11:56:31 PM
There are two kinds information rolling around in this form:

1) Some members are giving information- This kind of information maybe not required in OP, due to lack of knowledge they want to give it bcoz they think this is right and we know better.

2) Some members share information- Sharing information is where we share what we know, here anyone can help anyone even newbies can teach a legendary this is the only right way.

what you think about it?        
It's actually both the same but I would try to make it sense to you.

Do you mean giving like teach you personally? And sharing is teaching you through the screen like youtube?

Or is it something like someone just said this and that but you don't understand the context, although you have the choice to do your own research if you want instead of being curious. You know, not everyone would put everything in your platter, so you have to do something on your own too.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: izumikoushiro on November 30, 2021, 11:57:15 PM
There are two kinds information rolling around in this form:

1) Some members are giving information- This kind of information maybe not required in OP, due to lack of knowledge they want to give it bcoz they think this is right and we know better.

2) Some members share information- Sharing information is where we share what we know, here anyone can help anyone even newbies can teach a legendary this is the only right way.

what you think about it?       

In my point of view that between sharing information and giving information is the same goal, which is to tell someone from not knowing to know. But sharing is more about personal experience. so someone who shares information usually has experienced what happened to them themselves. So I think sharing information is personal and giving information is general.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Jawhead999 on December 01, 2021, 02:57:16 AM
Probably you're pointing a user give information only by searching on google, not from his experience vs a user share information based on his own experience isn't?

There's nothing wrong either giving information or share information, the thing is how correct and accurate it is? It's possible you're give wrong information, but there're many users will corrected those wrong information. So you don't need to worry about it.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Darker45 on December 01, 2021, 03:02:15 AM
No, there are only two kinds of information. One is true information and the other is false information. True information means it is based on facts. False information could either mean the OP is simply stating wrong things or wrongly stating what could have been factual things and/or events.

Either way, ranks of those who share information are immaterial. I am 100% certain that I am a legendary nobody in terms of technical knowledge on crypto and that even newbies could be better than me.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: witcher_sense on December 01, 2021, 07:51:31 AM
Give and Share are two different words that means their meanings are different too.  

I give you one apple and I share one apple with you, they are completely different ?

Sharing is caring & giving is loosing when we give something to someone to overcome our emotions our way of dealing become different.

So, its a very important subject when we consider quality posting.

 

I guess I understand what you mean, but there is a big difference between an apple and information. The former is divisible, while the latter makes sense only as a whole thing. If I give you half of an apple, then we both can eat it and probably feed our hunger. It is because two pieces of a single apple are identical in shape, size, taste, and nutritional value. Two parts of a single piece of information are rather not; more than that, the one will probably make no sense without the other because it cannot fulfill our desire for knowledge. Moreover, when I give you or share with you what I learned, I am not losing it myself, so both words, in the case of information, can be used interchangeably.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Pmalek on December 01, 2021, 08:09:59 AM
I give you one apple and I share one apple with you, they are completely different ?
Sharing is caring & giving is loosing when we give something to someone to overcome our emotions our way of dealing become different.
You can't compare a physical and tangible item, such as an apple, to non-tangible items like thoughts or pieces of information. If I have an apple and I give the whole thing to you, then sure, I no longer have that apple. But if I have information and knowledge about something crypto and I share or give that information to you, I have not lost anything. I still know what I knew before sharing it with you. 

Feel free to explain your thought process more clearly.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on December 01, 2021, 08:12:51 AM
Give and Share are two different words that means their meanings are different too.  

I give you one apple and I share one apple with you, they are completely different ?

Sharing is caring & giving is loosing when we give something to someone to overcome our emotions our way of dealing become different.

So, its a very important subject when we consider quality posting.

 

OP, can I ask you a question about your recent topic? This is by no means "scratching" you.
You copied the article by cutting out parts of it, then you were offered to add a link, and also showed you that your information is not correct. You started to justify yourself that you didn't copy, you just wanted to TEACH the community on a few things.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5372896.msg58517154#msg58517154

Now the question. How to relate to your topic, did you give or share?
Since you're assured that you helped the community, it can be assumed that you gave, but thereby did not have the proper knowledge. But if you share, and even more so not your knowledge, but what can be questioned, you must admit that this activity may not always be useful.
So your metaphors "Give and share" don't apply to knowledge. If a person gives, that is, and teaches something, he will not lose anything for himself, don’t you think so ??


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: dvndr007 on December 01, 2021, 12:19:35 PM
Giving and sharing an apple is just an example to clear the difference between giving and sharing.

Ok I ll try to make it more clear some get confused coz they dont want to spend whole brain here.

Giving information is where we are confident that our information is correct maybe we are wrong and we dont want to seek any extra information.

Sharing is I am sharing whatever I know if I am wrong or right its upto you to take it or not my job is to share it as a responsible member.

I hope its clear now what I said in OP.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: witcher_sense on December 01, 2021, 01:23:02 PM
Giving and sharing an apple is just an example to clear the difference between giving and sharing.

Ok I ll try to make it more clear some get confused coz they dont want to spend whole brain here.

Giving information is where we are confident that our information is correct maybe we are wrong and we dont want to seek any extra information.

Sharing is I am sharing whatever I know if I am wrong or right its upto you to take it or not my job is to share it as a responsible member.

I hope its clear now what I said in OP.

As an irresponsible person, I am not going to share with you how to give information properly to make it sound more clear for those unable to spend their whole brains to understand the point I am trying to make more clear.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: dvndr007 on December 01, 2021, 02:03:30 PM
Let leave this topic if we are unable to understand
Giving and sharing an apple is just an example to clear the difference between giving and sharing.

Ok I ll try to make it more clear some get confused coz they dont want to spend whole brain here.

Giving information is where we are confident that our information is correct maybe we are wrong and we dont want to seek any extra information.

Sharing is I am sharing whatever I know if I am wrong or right its upto you to take it or not my job is to share it as a responsible member.

I hope its clear now what I said in OP.

As an irresponsible person, I am not going to share with you how to give information properly to make it sound more clear for those unable to spend their whole brains to understand the point I am trying to make more clear.
To make it not a serious discussion I divert topic with some words with positive brain.
as we know too much serious discussions need hospital not bitcoin so it look like we are done with discussion and we shared everything what's required to understand it.
  


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Alisha-k on December 06, 2021, 02:08:05 AM
I clicked on this post just to get acquainted with the difference between giving and sharing.
By giving out something that is yours, aren't you sharing them??
I thought both can serve as one and the same thing.
Let's take for instance I have an idea on how to trade without running at a loss, by giving out such idea on the forum, haven't I shared the idea??


I stand to be corrected though.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: yazher on December 07, 2021, 03:36:08 AM
The good thing about sharing information in this community is the other users will further expand what you are sharing or add some more information in order to help more whoever needs it. Like for example, I shared how to use night mode on browser years ago, someone shared about Flux where it relaxes your eyes instead of turning everything black and I'm using it until today thanks to the guy who shared it on my thread. When sharing knowledge, you are not only giving them some hints or tips but the sharer also gets some benefits from it by getting unanswered questions and additional tips from the other members.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Lordhermes on December 08, 2021, 02:55:33 PM
To me,giving information means forming it,while sharing informations means giving out the one you've already had.
Most information giving are not heard from anywhere,they are formed by that individual,and mostly,they are fabricated.But why we share information is because  information is supposed to be dispersed and transfered from one person to another.

As they say,that if you are not informed,you are deformed.Most person's are deformed because they lack information,and it is because no one shared the information to them.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Anguwa on December 09, 2021, 09:31:04 PM
There are two kinds information rolling around in this form:

1) Some members are giving information- This kind of information maybe not required in OP, due to lack of knowledge they want to give it bcoz they think this is right and we know better.

2) Some members share information- Sharing information is where we share what we know, here anyone can help anyone even newbies can teach a legendary this is the only right way.

what you think about it?       
Sharing information gotten from another source to the forum which you think it can benefit the forum members is very important as many users in the forum will be updated and will also benefit from the information. But sometimes some of us repeat some already shared information in the forum which make the information looks repetitive and it will looks like spam.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: GeorgeJohn on December 10, 2021, 06:09:01 AM
I clicked on this post just to get acquainted with the difference between giving and sharing.
By giving out something that is yours, aren't you sharing them??
I thought both can serve as one and the same thing.
Let's take for instance I have an idea on how to trade without running at a loss, by giving out such idea on the forum, haven't I shared the idea??
You we humans understand things differently and also base on our environment, you absolutely right from my perspective because their is no difference between sharing of information and giving out information, but in other way round looking from another dimension of it, giving out information is specifically on one accord or in one direction you want the information to be stand, while sharing of information is no longer hidden information, it's an information that will be circulating round the corner, i think its a slight difference from my own perceptions.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Masplanc on December 10, 2021, 06:29:56 AM
Give and Share are two different words that means their meanings are different too.  

I give you one apple and I share one apple with you, they are completely different ?

Sharing is caring & giving is loosing when we give something to someone to overcome our emotions our way of dealing become different.

So, its a very important subject when we consider quality posting.

 

When it comes to information their is no difference between give and share , information is not a physical object  you can cut to share. An information is either share or given they are all the same thing and share the same purpose.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Munir575 on December 10, 2021, 12:01:22 PM
what you think about it?       
I do not see any clear explanation given to "give" and "share" information. You only mean people should suggest what is the difference between water and water. Give and share mean the same thing.
Yes you're right but I think what he meant to say is
Giving information: like teaching something he read or learn somewhere which he did not experience and he might not have tested or proven it right
Sharing information: information being passed which is from his experience, something he is sure of. Something he dont have to copy from another source.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Mpamaegbu on December 11, 2021, 03:48:32 PM
Give and Share are two different words that means their meanings are different too.  

I give you one apple and I share one apple with you, they are completely different ?

Sharing is caring & giving is loosing when we give something to someone to overcome our emotions our way of dealing become different.

So, its a very important subject when we consider quality posting.
By your explanation here, you try to make a distinction that giving is more important than sharing, right? And on that part, one who gives does that from the point of knowledge rather than what is passed to them when they share information. Well, I've seen where posters try to give information and ended up misinforming others because they lacked the right knowledge even though they meant well trying to inform others. I think whether giving or sharing, what matters is the quality and accuracy of the information passed across like someone clearly stated above.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: JoyMarsha on December 14, 2021, 03:15:31 PM
I give and share information means the same in what you posted here. This forum is open for everyone to contribute. You can give and share information at the same time. You can't give out information to set group rather you shared information with everyone to read and understand. This forum is where information about crypto is been shared or given out to


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Ems. on December 16, 2021, 07:10:50 PM
Giving information ,make sure that,meaningful not lies.Once you giving information you are likely and surely what ,you learned and study you really standing your own opinion that is really true.
Sharing information,exactly you was study and
learned it that's why you surely to share to anyone so they can learned too.Sharing and giving if its they same neutral.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Rengga Jati on December 18, 2021, 09:12:19 PM
Doesn't sharing information mean that we are giving information to other people and vice versa when we give information means that we are also sharing information both about things that we know from other sources and things that come from our thoughts?
There is no problem when sharing or giving because the intent is the same.
What sometimes becomes a problem is what is conveyed, given, or shared so that whether the information is useful for others or not on target.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Rruchi man on December 19, 2021, 06:02:10 AM
Giving information to me in this context symbolises that an information is original, while sharing information symbolises that the information was from another source. Regardless, I believe saying people shouldn't "give" information but only "share" information to me is like a discouragement from being creative and original with their post all the time. Some individuals are very observant, and possess some kind of knowledge no one else has, it is proper IMO for such individuals to give information.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: mamesso on December 19, 2021, 08:58:05 AM
Whatever term you mention, share information or provide information, These two terms have the same meaning or purpose.
Information is data that is processed so that it can be used as a basis for making the right decisions, or it could be said data that has been processed for a specific purpose.
Determining the direction or purpose of the information is the most important thing. Information is needed by everyone, especially Newbie who wants to add insight about trading procedures, long-term investment and how to make a post that can be considered quality.

There is no need to make these 2 terms sound very complicated or use certain words to look cool. The important thing is that the information shared has functions and benefits for others.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Connor Britton on December 20, 2021, 03:08:15 AM
Regardless of the form, the content must be original and must be valuable to be popular. It does not lie in that form.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: GeorgeJohn on December 20, 2021, 08:51:19 AM
I give and share information means the same in what you posted here. This forum is open for everyone to contribute. You can give and share information at the same time. You can't give out information to set group rather you shared information with everyone to read and understand. This forum is where information about crypto is been shared or given out to
When you only emphasised on given out information to someone you like, you can as give the person information through personal message, so it's very obvious that information is basically for the person pm only, wether the is positive or negative it's a personal communication or a conversation between both parties, both sharing of information is something thing that requires a circulation which is obviously meant for everybody, like all this @ Ratimov compendium kind of thread, those kind of research information can be classify as sharing of information. Another thing is that, it's base on our ways of understanding.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Peanutswar on December 20, 2021, 09:41:34 AM
Might confusing with the statement but i guess OP points is giving point that an OP is lacking of information they dont need to give the information insyead other member fulfill those lacking of statements this is my deeply understanding on it. Still the end of the day its more beneficial if both of the members and OP giving a statement and facts to might contribute to the others because we are community and we dont want to left behind other would like to know too.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: aysg76 on December 20, 2021, 10:49:33 AM
Give and Share are two different words that means their meanings are different too.  

I give you one apple and I share one apple with you, they are completely different ?

Sharing is caring & giving is loosing when we give something to someone to overcome our emotions our way of dealing become different.

So, its a very important subject when we consider quality posting.

 
Physics goods have different measures if we compare them with knowledge related things.So you are understanding it in wrong way.

Suppose you have two apples and you give one to me then you would loose one and have one left with you but if you have knowledge of something and you give it to me then would you loose it or have you shared it with others? Have you ever heard of knowledge increases with sharing ?

So they both are same terms and mixing up physical quantities with expression is not correct way man.If you share something with others you would gain more about it through discussion and you see it's two way process as you share something and also gain from others as well which is the case with entire community on bitcointalk if you truly know about it.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Alisha-k on January 30, 2022, 09:15:11 PM
what you think about it?       
I do not see any clear explanation given to "give" and "share" information. You only mean people should suggest what is the difference between water and water. Give and share mean the same thing.
Yes you're right but I think what he meant to say is
Giving information: like teaching something he read or learn somewhere which he did not experience and he might not have tested or proven it right
Sharing information: information being passed which is from his experience, something he is sure of. Something he dont have to copy from another source.
as much as I try to understand the difference between this 2 "sharing and giving information", I still get overly confused along the line.

The instances that's given is only putting it straight to me that the misconception is with you guys cause this two mean the same thing.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: BIT-BENDER on January 30, 2022, 10:08:28 PM
There are two kinds information rolling around in this form:

1) Some members are giving information- This kind of information maybe not required in OP, due to lack of knowledge they want to give it bcoz they think this is right and we know better.

2) Some members share information- Sharing information is where we share what we know, here anyone can help anyone even newbies can teach a legendary this is the only right way.

what you think about it?       
I am lost mate, I really don't know if you are creating your own grammar or dictionary, that said I would like to know how to classify this your post, are you giving information? Or are you sharing information?
On a serious note they are both the same meaning I think you should rather say some information are better passed across than others rather than creating a vocabulary.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: nurilham on January 30, 2022, 11:35:21 PM
I think giving and sharing the information they have is equally helpful here because many people that have different opinions. What is certain is that we must be able to sort out which information  that is good to take and which is not, so we don't take the information at face value. in the sense that it is not patronizing here or if it is wrong it needs to be justified because the information circulating here will be read by many members and learned by beginners. so whatever it is, whether it's sharing or providing information as long as it's good and useful, then it's good.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: Oshosondy on January 31, 2022, 03:46:48 AM
The instances that's given is only putting it straight to me that the misconception is with you guys cause this two mean the same thing.
The whole thing is confusing, OP may have its own view and difference between giving and sharing information but it is just in a way it will confuse people, I have made comment about this before that I did not see a clear difference between giving information and sharing it, this will only lead to debate with only little differences that will still lead to the same conclusion which is the act of sharing information is the act of giving out information, so no difference in my opinion.


Title: Re: Don't give information instead share information.
Post by: qwertyup23 on January 31, 2022, 01:00:54 PM
I think giving and sharing the information they have is equally helpful here because many people that have different opinions. What is certain is that we must be able to sort out which information  that is good to take and which is not, so we don't take the information at face value. in the sense that it is not patronizing here or if it is wrong it needs to be justified because the information circulating here will be read by many members and learned by beginners. so whatever it is, whether it's sharing or providing information as long as it's good and useful, then it's good.

Sharing and giving information may respectively have their merits but you have the responsibility to filter out the information that you are about to share. While it may sound simple, this fact alone is responsible for all the fake data and research being spread across the internet. Unfortunately, people would believe the first thing that they would see thereby creating a landslide of misinformed people believing that fact "fact A" is true, which in fact, is not.

The point here OP, share only the information that you know coming from the right sources. While your intention is noble, it can definitely cause more harm than good if you are not responsible enough.