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Title: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Kakmakr on November 30, 2021, 05:12:46 PM
I am looking at the weekly releases of NEW Slot games from third party providers and I am not seeing any NEW creative and innovative Slot games being released. A lot of these games are re-hashed games from previous releases and they feature the same game dynamic with a little change on the background and the tiles.

They reuse xSplits / Xways / xNudge / Gigablox / Xpanding Wilds / Megaways / Hold and Win.... etc. etc... with new themes and new graphics with every new Slot that are released... and then call it ...."Name of Slot  + Extended"  ::)

Is there still any real original ideas for Slots? Can someone still develop something new and innovative and how can we (gamblers) give our inputs in the development of what we want in Slots?

Can someone give us an example of a Slot that introduced something new and innovative in the game dynamics and engine lately? Please mention the game and what was new and innovative.  ;)


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Obito on November 30, 2021, 05:32:23 PM
Slot is pretty straightforward so I don't see any possible change or innovation in slots, just variations and difference in prices, I think it's even impossible to think of a way to innovate slots that's going to benefit both the slot owner and the player.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Smartprofit on November 30, 2021, 07:50:36 PM
I am looking at the weekly releases of NEW Slot games from third party providers and I am not seeing any NEW creative and innovative Slot games being released. A lot of these games are re-hashed games from previous releases and they feature the same game dynamic with a little change on the background and the tiles.

They reuse xSplits / Xways / xNudge / Gigablox / Xpanding Wilds / Megaways / Hold and Win.... etc. etc... with new themes and new graphics with every new Slot that are released... and then call it ...."Name of Slot  + Extended"  ::)

Is there still any real original ideas for Slots? Can someone still develop something new and innovative and how can we (gamblers) give our inputs in the development of what we want in Slots?

Can someone give us an example of a Slot that introduced something new and innovative in the game dynamics and engine lately? Please mention the game and what was new and innovative.  ;)

Slot machines are a very old invention. 

In my opinion, one should not expect any revolutionary innovations in relation to it.  Everything was invented a long time ago.  It is not profitable for slot machine manufacturers to experiment.  This requires additional investment. 

At the same time, the potential profit is minimal, and the risks are large. 

The next step in the development of slot machines is associated with virtual reality. 

The symbiosis of virtual reality and slot machines means new games, new ideas, new rules of game interaction.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Fortify on November 30, 2021, 07:50:58 PM
I am looking at the weekly releases of NEW Slot games from third party providers and I am not seeing any NEW creative and innovative Slot games being released. A lot of these games are re-hashed games from previous releases and they feature the same game dynamic with a little change on the background and the tiles.

They reuse xSplits / Xways / xNudge / Gigablox / Xpanding Wilds / Megaways / Hold and Win.... etc. etc... with new themes and new graphics with every new Slot that are released... and then call it ...."Name of Slot  + Extended"  ::)

Is there still any real original ideas for Slots? Can someone still develop something new and innovative and how can we (gamblers) give our inputs in the development of what we want in Slots?

Can someone give us an example of a Slot that introduced something new and innovative in the game dynamics and engine lately? Please mention the game and what was new and innovative.  ;)

Slots have been around for a relatively long time now and you have to imagine that gambling institutions put a lot of money into these sort of games that drain the bank accounts of their customers. At the very heart of it however is the fact that you have one or lost before you've even clicked the button to play. For this type of game all the outcomes can be predetermined by the house depending on how many winnings they've already paid out that hour/day/week in order to help them make the profit they desire. The slots are simply a front of flashy graphics and enticing trigger sounds that are trying to build habit forming behavior so you will keep returning. The interface is the only real variation but the input from the user is all an illusion anyway.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: nakamura12 on November 30, 2021, 08:14:27 PM
Slot is pretty straightforward so I don't see any possible change or innovation in slots, just variations and difference in prices, I think it's even impossible to think of a way to innovate slots that's going to benefit both the slot owner and the player.
I think it may have been possible to add new changes to slot games like combining two games kind of thing but the problem is what game is it?. Yes, you are correct that slot is pretty straightforward and what I mostly noticed is the graphics, sounds, payments and names. Even if the name is different but the game the same.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: goaldigger on November 30, 2021, 08:44:09 PM
Can someone give us an example of a Slot that introduced something new and innovative in the game dynamics and engine lately? Please mention the game and what was new and innovative.  ;)
I haven’t seen any for a while now and maybe the slots game are really meant to play like this. Are you thinking to play slots the other way? Maybe you can suggest that to a gambling since most of the new gambling site offers the same slot games. Though we’d like innovations but if its still a slot games I guess the result is still the same and house still has the edge over the gamblers.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: 24Kt on November 30, 2021, 08:56:47 PM
Can someone give us an example of a Slot that introduced something new and innovative in the game dynamics and engine lately? Please mention the game and what was new and innovative.  ;)
I haven’t seen any for a while now and maybe the slots game are really meant to play like this. Are you thinking to play slots the other way? Maybe you can suggest that to a gambling since most of the new gambling site offers the same slot games. Though we’d like innovations but if its still a slot games I guess the result is still the same and house still has the edge over the gamblers.

Yes, may I ask the OP what kind of innovation is he thinking here about slots? Because if he is looking for some kind of changes, then, what is it then? He maybe thinking of something but when it comes to slots, I don't think there will be a new revolutionary idea that will come to this luck-based game. I don't think these providers will start from scratch and invent something else. They will just recycle and maybe modify a lil bit but still the same slots.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Oilacris on November 30, 2021, 09:04:48 PM
Slot is pretty straightforward so I don't see any possible change or innovation in slots, just variations and difference in prices, I think it's even impossible to think of a way to innovate slots that's going to benefit both the slot owner and the player.
I think it may have been possible to add new changes to slot games like combining two games kind of thing but the problem is what game is it?. Yes, you are correct that slot is pretty straightforward and what I mostly noticed is the graphics, sounds, payments and names. Even if the name is different but the game the same.
If there would be some new possible ideas or innovation then game providers wont really be telling it and would compete out for that new

idea or something new in regards with this game which is i do agree that it is straight forward and i cant think off any possible add up

because slots are just really the same in terms of gameplay and whats the outcome should really reach out or hit for you to win the game.
They differ in design,images etc and as said they are still the same.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Sled on November 30, 2021, 09:49:29 PM
If someone will create another slot game out of the original feature, it was not a Slot game anymore. That is why nobody is able to make another one but to retain what is in the original.

Honestly, it was best to make a different game without copying others, that seems to be an innovative idea, I think. As people are already familiar with this game, the more it gives the advantage to them.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Johnyz on November 30, 2021, 09:55:12 PM
Probably new games on slots but the concept is still the same because this is how the slots game works and if you’re talking about innovation, it might not be the slots game anymore. I’ve seen many site introduce their own game like the spin game, crash game, and many more aside from the slots so if OP is looking for a more entertainment games the don’t play slots, because casinos can’t innovate slots as this game is in favor to them most of the time.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: ryzaadit on November 30, 2021, 11:15:59 PM
The system slot feature is always like that

But, how to trigger that is really unique. I like how "No Limit" always have new slot with new situation for the trigger you are mention like (Dassboat, Mental Ilness) this slot is great by how the system is works. IMO, I don't think this is some issue we all know the worst slot is always be Pragmatic Play & PlayNGo because they always have the same payout but people still love them because is to easy calculated estimation you are hitting bonus.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Hydrogen on November 30, 2021, 11:35:53 PM
Is there still any real original ideas for Slots? Can someone still develop something new and innovative and how can we (gamblers) give our inputs in the development of what we want in Slots?



Imagine if Elon Musk designed and engineered a slot machine. It would have a sunroof on it.

The basic format and payout distribution of slots is easy to adjust. I'm not certain that's something people do comparison shopping on, or pay much attention to. And so that approach could have limited potential.

The next innovation of slots could be things like. Offering ports for free cellphone charging. Free WIFI. Next to a slot machine. People play slots as they wait for their phone to charge or use the free WIFI access.

Mobile gaming seems like a big and growing market which could be targeted by slot apps. Incentives, bonuses and extras could matter more than the basic mechanics of slot machines. Of course there is always room for growth and improvement, until the day comes when someone builds something that is perfect.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: dimonstration on December 01, 2021, 03:11:28 AM
Slot is pretty straightforward so I don't see any possible change or innovation in slots, just variations and difference in prices, I think it's even impossible to think of a way to innovate slots that's going to benefit both the slot owner and the player.
Slot been popular as the way it is and if ever there will be an innovation for it , it may be introduced as other game other than as slot as people been into slot for along time and the ideas might already tried many times, it’s quite hard to incorporate any new ideas to a game been love by many. It like a classic game that every gamblers still play even there are already lot of games to play with.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: xSkylarx on December 01, 2021, 05:04:11 AM
Slot is pretty straightforward so I don't see any possible change or innovation in slots, just variations and difference in prices, I think it's even impossible to think of a way to innovate slots that's going to benefit both the slot owner and the player.
Slot been popular as the way it is and if ever there will be an innovation for it , it may be introduced as other game other than as slot as people been into slot for along time and the ideas might already tried many times, it’s quite hard to incorporate any new ideas to a game been love by many. It like a classic game that every gamblers still play even there are already lot of games to play with.

To be sure, if there are any new innovations in slots, I believe they will become popular in all casinos or slot machines. However, I believe that the slot machine is already excellent, and I do not wish to improve it because doing so would complicate the game, and as a gambler, I prefer to gamble with simple rules or with just one click and then waiting to be a winner. Also, the idea of improving slots will cause the rules or playstyle to change, which I believe would be unpopular with gamblers, so I would prefer it to remain as a slot with nothing else added to make it more appealing.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: michellee on December 01, 2021, 05:37:10 AM
Slot is pretty straightforward so I don't see any possible change or innovation in slots, just variations and difference in prices, I think it's even impossible to think of a way to innovate slots that's going to benefit both the slot owner and the player.
Slot been popular as the way it is and if ever there will be an innovation for it , it may be introduced as other game other than as slot as people been into slot for along time and the ideas might already tried many times, it’s quite hard to incorporate any new ideas to a game been love by many. It like a classic game that every gamblers still play even there are already lot of games to play with.
We know that slots have many interfaces that can make people curious about the game, although they already knew that is a slot game that is based on luck but still, that can make them curious. Not many changes from the slot game itself as that is a classic game that has its fan and still is one favourite of the gambling games that people already played. Maybe the prizes, the amount to bet, the interface, or the rules that will be changed but the main core of the game is not changing.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: ralle14 on December 01, 2021, 05:39:22 AM
I still think there are new ideas but there are downsides, I remember trying out that one unique slot where the gameplay is similar to dx ball but I didn't like it as the HE was way too high (~7%) than the regular slots. I don't know the game but it was mentioned in the bitcasino thread as they post articles about different slot games from time to time.

Once new games come out in the near future I think the third-party providers will try to integrate them and slowly introduce new features like those progression bars when you hit losing streaks.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Yaunfitda on December 01, 2021, 05:42:30 AM
Not sure if there is still new innovation that can draw the interest of players.

Perhaps there is one, but still it boils down as how it is going to attract slot players because playing them is just basic, you just have to understand how it works and what is the draw line and what characters will be the bonus for a particular game. So it's hard to reinvent the wheel for slot machines because we have seen them all.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Kakmakr on December 01, 2021, 06:03:20 AM
Can someone give us an example of a Slot that introduced something new and innovative in the game dynamics and engine lately? Please mention the game and what was new and innovative.  ;)
I haven’t seen any for a while now and maybe the slots game are really meant to play like this. Are you thinking to play slots the other way? Maybe you can suggest that to a gambling since most of the new gambling site offers the same slot games. Though we’d like innovations but if its still a slot games I guess the result is still the same and house still has the edge over the gamblers.

Yes, may I ask the OP what kind of innovation is he thinking here about slots? Because if he is looking for some kind of changes, then, what is it then? He maybe thinking of something but when it comes to slots, I don't think there will be a new revolutionary idea that will come to this luck-based game. I don't think these providers will start from scratch and invent something else. They will just recycle and maybe modify a lil bit but still the same slots.

The type of innovation that I am talking about, is something like this :

Imagine a series of Slots that link into each other to form one gigantic "Puzzle" that needs to be solved as new Slots are released. So you get a piece of the puzzle (like the Wonka bars in the Willy Wonka Movie) and you have to play all these different Slots to collect these "Wonka bars" to win the giant Jackpot at the end of the year.  ;)

You can also have Slots that play like an adventure game, where you search for items in the different games and that unlocks "Easter Eggs" within the Slot.. that you do not get if you just play for a couple of hours. (Each of these eggs unlocks special bonus features)

It will take out the repetitive nature of these Slot games and add some challenge to it... which is lacking in most Slots.  ;)


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: AicecreaME on December 01, 2021, 01:18:16 PM
What innovation are you still looking for in a slot game? As far as I know, a slot game is played just the way it is in every casino site and actual place. Maybe what you were saying is some sort of tweak about the way how the game is played? Like having the very same concept of slot games but actually having a different set of rules and how to win the prizes so that the game would pique the interest of the players. This could work as it could encourage the players to know more about how it works and be caught up in mastering it in the long run. Since as we all know, a game like a slot game is a repetitive game of luck that is just played by most because it is easy and requires little effort to play. Maybe some are playing it for the entertainment it brings, but I guess most just play it for the prize. So it would be a 50/50 scenario.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Lakai01 on December 01, 2021, 02:17:58 PM
If someone will create another slot game out of the original feature, it was not a Slot game anymore. That is why nobody is able to make another one but to retain what is in the original.
I see it the same way. Slots are played precisely because they are slots and not because the games are so innovative. For slot players, the fact that different settings and themes are used to provide "variety" is usually enough.

If you really want different game mechanics, you have more than enough options online.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: bekti3 on December 01, 2021, 02:43:07 PM
Slot is pretty straightforward so I don't see any possible change or innovation in slots, just variations and difference in prices, I think it's even impossible to think of a way to innovate slots that's going to benefit both the slot owner and the player.
This is the most likely because it will be very difficult to implement innovations like this and the most innovations that are carried out are as you say and only make better graphics to make the players feel at home there.
there won't be anything new that will be implemented in slots because that's how they work even though it's a very old thing to do


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: fiulpro on December 01, 2021, 03:09:41 PM
Might not be a popular opinion but I enjoy classic slot. Slot game is something that have been here since the beginning and innovations are ofcourse amazing but for me I prefer the normal one.

Plus slot machines are super classy and something that I played on as a kid as well in small fairs and parks, so for me it makes the whole experience more rewarding..

People are really high about the video slot games now a days which I do think are definately adequate and interesting, provides user with more hands on experience.

What I do think can be done is to :
Make it more realistic.
Make it more classy, rustic.
Give players the feeling that they are playing it in real life in an offline casino, for me that would be great.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: madnessteat on December 01, 2021, 03:30:30 PM
^

I think that recreate the atmosphere of a real casino on an online playground is difficult enough although on the other hand when I dive into the game I do not even think where I am as a sense of excitement can eclipse all other feelings especially if no one distracts during the game.

In my opinion, an interesting solution would be to create and draw NFT, which would increase bonuses at a particular gambling site depending on the rarity and not only in the slots.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Cling18 on December 01, 2021, 03:35:43 PM
Not sure if there is still new innovation that can draw the interest of players.

Perhaps there is one, but still it boils down as how it is going to attract slot players because playing them is just basic, you just have to understand how it works and what is the draw line and what characters will be the bonus for a particular game. So it's hard to reinvent the wheel for slot machines because we have seen them all.

Most players are seeking simplicity and games without too many complications and I guess that's the edge of the slot. Players are contented with it because of the basics of the game. They could make a simple innovation that could make it more exciting but changing the whole game could only make it too complex.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Lucasgabd on December 01, 2021, 04:23:34 PM
Slot is pretty straightforward so I don't see any possible change or innovation in slots, just variations and difference in prices, I think it's even impossible to think of a way to innovate slots that's going to benefit both the slot owner and the player.
This is the most likely because it will be very difficult to implement innovations like this and the most innovations that are carried out are as you say and only make better graphics to make the players feel at home there.
there won't be anything new that will be implemented in slots because that's how they work even though it's a very old thing to do

I think most innovations are not that easy to implement since people usually prefer maintaining the status quo than challenging it, not only with games that are well known

I've seen some online places trying to innovate with slots but nothing really different

the first thing that comes to my mind is changing the number to possible slots or changing combinations and possibilities
of course the house edge will stay


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: wxa7115 on December 01, 2021, 05:28:25 PM
Slot machines are a very old invention. 

In my opinion, one should not expect any revolutionary innovations in relation to it.  Everything was invented a long time ago.  It is not profitable for slot machine manufacturers to experiment.  This requires additional investment. 

At the same time, the potential profit is minimal, and the risks are large. 

The next step in the development of slot machines is associated with virtual reality. 

The symbiosis of virtual reality and slot machines means new games, new ideas, new rules of game interaction.
To this I will add that developers are limited on what they can do as slots are a simple game and as such any new innovation they could bring to the game if it is too complex it runs the risk of alienating their customer base and being unsuccessful.

After all for when it comes to complex games like poker players will find any innovation on the rules as a new opportunity to play a new variation of poker no matter how complex it could be, because that is the kind of mentality that is needed to be to be successful at it, but many of those that play slots do so just to relax themselves, so adding too much complexity and innovation to the game could be counterproductive.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: izsara on December 01, 2021, 05:37:45 PM
Not sure if there is still new innovation that can draw the interest of players.

Perhaps there is one, but still it boils down as how it is going to attract slot players because playing them is just basic, you just have to understand how it works and what is the draw line and what characters will be the bonus for a particular game. So it's hard to reinvent the wheel for slot machines because we have seen them all.

Most players are seeking simplicity and games without too many complications and I guess that's the edge of the slot. Players are contented with it because of the basics of the game. They could make a simple innovation that could make it more exciting but changing the whole game could only make it too complex.
From the start they created a game that was simple and not too complicated to look at and play. and this is what makes them in love.
I personally like this game because of that because it's the simplest thing I've ever played.
apart from losing and winning it is a risk but fun is what keeps me here. Their visuals and their ease of play make me unable to stop playing slots


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Fatunad on December 01, 2021, 08:41:35 PM
Not sure if there is still new innovation that can draw the interest of players.

Perhaps there is one, but still it boils down as how it is going to attract slot players because playing them is just basic, you just have to understand how it works and what is the draw line and what characters will be the bonus for a particular game. So it's hard to reinvent the wheel for slot machines because we have seen them all.

Most players are seeking simplicity and games without too many complications and I guess that's the edge of the slot. Players are contented with it because of the basics of the game. They could make a simple innovation that could make it more exciting but changing the whole game could only make it too complex.
From the start they created a game that was simple and not too complicated to look at and play. and this is what makes them in love.
I personally like this game because of that because it's the simplest thing I've ever played.
apart from losing and winning it is a risk but fun is what keeps me here. Their visuals and their ease of play make me unable to stop playing slots
The game is having  the most simple concept which i could  really not deny that those things you do said were true which is actually on point.They might differ in design
and sound effects but the overall concept or game was just the same and its true that the simplicity of the game which do make it love by most people.
Changes? This would really be a hard question an something that should be answered because not all ideas would really be need to be applied first.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: xSkylarx on December 02, 2021, 02:48:55 AM
Not sure if there is still new innovation that can draw the interest of players.

Perhaps there is one, but still it boils down as how it is going to attract slot players because playing them is just basic, you just have to understand how it works and what is the draw line and what characters will be the bonus for a particular game. So it's hard to reinvent the wheel for slot machines because we have seen them all.

Most players are seeking simplicity and games without too many complications and I guess that's the edge of the slot. Players are contented with it because of the basics of the game. They could make a simple innovation that could make it more exciting but changing the whole game could only make it too complex.

Agree i think only themes could be change in slots like the colours the images but the rules and how simple the game to be played should be retained since thats the most people addicted. Makin it complex makes everyone not to play on it since it was new unless they want to try and if so they get addicted to the new and improved slot game


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: traderethereum on December 02, 2021, 05:00:39 AM
Not sure if there is still new innovation that can draw the interest of players.

Perhaps there is one, but still it boils down as how it is going to attract slot players because playing them is just basic, you just have to understand how it works and what is the draw line and what characters will be the bonus for a particular game. So it's hard to reinvent the wheel for slot machines because we have seen them all.

Most players are seeking simplicity and games without too many complications and I guess that's the edge of the slot. Players are contented with it because of the basics of the game. They could make a simple innovation that could make it more exciting but changing the whole game could only make it too complex.

Agree i think only themes could be change in slots like the colours the images but the rules and how simple the game to be played should be retained since thats the most people addicted. Makin it complex makes everyone not to play on it since it was new unless they want to try and if so they get addicted to the new and improved slot game
With simplicity, slots can attract the new players to test their luck and even, the casino will know how to invite more players to come by giving more bonuses to them.
The themes on the slots games can change so the looks can give another approach to the player and make them feel comfortable.
Besides that, the slot player does not want complexity for playing the gambling games and only wants to spend their time playing some rounds.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: jrrsparkles on December 02, 2021, 05:55:54 AM
Honestly speaking, I never cared about the innovative slots and that's what most people do they just roll and loves the UI/UX which js what that is going to bring us the results and if its our lucky day then we might have win streak with actual profits. But slot games are never ending because they are coming up with different graphics in the online world and the best innovation in the future can be virtual experience.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Kakmakr on December 02, 2021, 06:06:34 AM
The reason why I started this discussion is for us to find ways to "innovate" the Slot development in the industry. Let's agree on something, it is very boring to just push a single button to "bet" or even just to put it on "auto" and just sit there and watch the screen.

A lot can be done to make the Slots interactive and more stimulating for people to want to play it. The introduction of Virtual reality in the casino industry has opened doors for more innovation and we will see a lot more exciting things in 2022. (I hope we will be immersed into these virtual worlds and we will be able to interact more within the games)  ::)

It is mind-numbing to sit in front of a screen and to press a single mouse button or key on a keyboard to watch reels go past.. hoping for a win.  :P


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: mu_enrico on December 02, 2021, 07:31:26 AM
To be fair, even if it's rehashed, some have slightly new feature. For example:
- Book of Fallen, yeah it's "book type" but here you can pick the feature symbol (previously random).
- Avatar UX (Yggdrasil) POP games have unique mechanics.
- Gold Megaways, you can trade a big-win (from normal spin) for a chance of bonus games.

But yeah, the basic is same, spinning reels.

It is mind-numbing to sit in front of a screen and to press a single mouse button or key on a keyboard to watch reels go past.. hoping for a win.  :P
Try super spin on Book of Fallen, it's pretty interactive :p


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: xSkylarx on December 02, 2021, 01:26:04 PM
Not sure if there is still new innovation that can draw the interest of players.

Perhaps there is one, but still it boils down as how it is going to attract slot players because playing them is just basic, you just have to understand how it works and what is the draw line and what characters will be the bonus for a particular game. So it's hard to reinvent the wheel for slot machines because we have seen them all.

Most players are seeking simplicity and games without too many complications and I guess that's the edge of the slot. Players are contented with it because of the basics of the game. They could make a simple innovation that could make it more exciting but changing the whole game could only make it too complex.

Agree i think only themes could be change in slots like the colours the images but the rules and how simple the game to be played should be retained since thats the most people addicted. Makin it complex makes everyone not to play on it since it was new unless they want to try and if so they get addicted to the new and improved slot game
With simplicity, slots can attract the new players to test their luck and even, the casino will know how to invite more players to come by giving more bonuses to them.
The themes on the slots games can change so the looks can give another approach to the player and make them feel comfortable.
Besides that, the slot player does not want complexity for playing the gambling games and only wants to spend their time playing some rounds.

That is precisely my point. Given that I believe the game is nearly perfect, I believe anyone who attempts to improve or change it is wasting his or her time and energy. I agree that it is to test your luck, as this game is primarily based on luck, and if we are lucky then we will  win. We are only playing this type of game to amuse ourselves, so I do not believe that it is necessary to change anything at all.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: kamadazje on December 02, 2021, 01:44:28 PM
Not sure if there is still new innovation that can draw the interest of players.

Perhaps there is one, but still it boils down as how it is going to attract slot players because playing them is just basic, you just have to understand how it works and what is the draw line and what characters will be the bonus for a particular game. So it's hard to reinvent the wheel for slot machines because we have seen them all.

Most players are seeking simplicity and games without too many complications and I guess that's the edge of the slot. Players are contented with it because of the basics of the game. They could make a simple innovation that could make it more exciting but changing the whole game could only make it too complex.

Agree i think only themes could be change in slots like the colours the images but the rules and how simple the game to be played should be retained since thats the most people addicted. Makin it complex makes everyone not to play on it since it was new unless they want to try and if so they get addicted to the new and improved slot game
With simplicity, slots can attract the new players to test their luck and even, the casino will know how to invite more players to come by giving more bonuses to them.
The themes on the slots games can change so the looks can give another approach to the player and make them feel comfortable.
Besides that, the slot player does not want complexity for playing the gambling games and only wants to spend their time playing some rounds.

That is precisely my point. Given that I believe the game is nearly perfect, I believe anyone who attempts to improve or change it is wasting his or her time and energy. I agree that it is to test your luck, as this game is primarily based on luck, and if we are lucky then we will  win. We are only playing this type of game to amuse ourselves, so I do not believe that it is necessary to change anything at all.

Indeed. Slot games were really designed the way there are, to be just the way they are. Not necessarily indicating that slot games are static when in comes to innovation and improvements, but more on the essence and functionality of the game design. Since it is based on luck, I also think that changing it won’t really make much of that an impact and might alter its simplicity and purpose.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: acroman08 on December 02, 2021, 02:01:11 PM
Is there still any real original ideas for Slots? Can someone still develop something new and innovative and how can we (gamblers) give our inputs in the development of what we want in Slots?
we will only know if someone actually makes it. to those who are saying that it is impossible. a lot of things were deemed impossible in the past. with the current progress of technology, who knows, maybe someone would get an idea that would change how we play, look at slot games.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Coin_trader on December 02, 2021, 02:08:31 PM
Honestly speaking, I never cared about the innovative slots and that's what most people do they just roll and loves the UI/UX which js what that is going to bring us the results and if its our lucky day then we might have win streak with actual profits. But slot games are never ending because they are coming up with different graphics in the online world and the best innovation in the future can be virtual experience.

At first, This is my thoughts when I read the OP thread then I realize that what OP's trying to convey is why tons of slots being created while they are just same type. I stop playing slots long time since they are continuously decreasing RTP on every new slot they are creating. They are improving UI/UX but the RTP is decreasing. I'm not a solid fan of slot that's why I don't appreciate much the UI/UX while playing since we are gambling to win and at the same time to have fun. But its so hard to have fun while losing so I believe introducing more exciting part on slots that will give players more chance to win is a cool idea besides wild cards type.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: paxmao on December 02, 2021, 02:10:22 PM
Perhaps the thing about old games is that most people want them to actually look like them the way they are. However you are right, there is a new generation of gamers that is used to more sophistication in entertainment and media and that use mobile devices all the time and those could be the cornerstones to build a more interesting slots game. You can either go "retro" and try to mimic the original machinery feeling of the old slots or embrace digital and create plenty of 3D and metauniverses facebook style.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: panjul07 on December 02, 2021, 02:43:42 PM
Is there still any real original ideas for Slots? Can someone still develop something new and innovative and how can we (gamblers) give our inputs in the development of what we want in Slots?

I'm sure there are many new ideas from slot developers but I believe the reason why they keep on using the same type with different theme is about the interest from users/gamblers.
If a specific type lets say "Megaways", has so many players then developers will use the situation to create more similar slot but with different themes only.

Can someone give us an example of a Slot that introduced something new and innovative in the game dynamics and engine lately? Please mention the game and what was new and innovative.  ;)

I was someone who love to try new slot games in the past but I did not do it again since few months ago.
For now, I prefer to play my favorite slot only instead of trying new slots so I have no idea if there is a new innovative slot game released lately.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Smartprofit on December 02, 2021, 04:23:56 PM
The reason why I started this discussion is for us to find ways to "innovate" the Slot development in the industry. Let's agree on something, it is very boring to just push a single button to "bet" or even just to put it on "auto" and just sit there and watch the screen.

A lot can be done to make the Slots interactive and more stimulating for people to want to play it. The introduction of Virtual reality in the casino industry has opened doors for more innovation and we will see a lot more exciting things in 2022. (I hope we will be immersed into these virtual worlds and we will be able to interact more within the games)  ::)

It is mind-numbing to sit in front of a screen and to press a single mouse button or key on a keyboard to watch reels go past.. hoping for a win.  :P

I closely follow the development of neural interface technology. 

Currently, neurointerfaces are used mainly in medicine. 

However, this is not their only possible application.  This is a revolutionary technology that can change the way slot machines work.  No need to press buttons.  All control in the game will be done by one power of thought.  And it's incredibly impressive! 

Neurointerfaces will make the game of slot machines more interesting and exciting.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Hamphser on December 02, 2021, 09:36:55 PM
The reason why I started this discussion is for us to find ways to "innovate" the Slot development in the industry. Let's agree on something, it is very boring to just push a single button to "bet" or even just to put it on "auto" and just sit there and watch the screen.

A lot can be done to make the Slots interactive and more stimulating for people to want to play it. The introduction of Virtual reality in the casino industry has opened doors for more innovation and we will see a lot more exciting things in 2022. (I hope we will be immersed into these virtual worlds and we will be able to interact more within the games)  ::)

It is mind-numbing to sit in front of a screen and to press a single mouse button or key on a keyboard to watch reels go past.. hoping for a win.  :P

I closely follow the development of neural interface technology. 

Currently, neurointerfaces are used mainly in medicine. 

However, this is not their only possible application.  This is a revolutionary technology that can change the way slot machines work.  No need to press buttons.  All control in the game will be done by one power of thought.  And it's incredibly impressive! 

Neurointerfaces will make the game of slot machines more interesting and exciting.
Im bit curious with this neurointerface which i did make out some research on what it is all about.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1474667017421410

I did read up a pile of context and it seems a really good innovation or add up if ever slots would come into this
point but this would still takes time to develop or something like that.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Lucasgabd on December 02, 2021, 09:47:05 PM
Honestly speaking, I never cared about the innovative slots and that's what most people do they just roll and loves the UI/UX which js what that is going to bring us the results and if its our lucky day then we might have win streak with actual profits. But slot games are never ending because they are coming up with different graphics in the online world and the best innovation in the future can be virtual experience.

this is really interesting
some games just... works
slots have resisted the test of time and will probably stay around as they are for years to come.
of course there's space for innovation but the classic will remain around


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: johhnyUA on December 02, 2021, 09:54:16 PM
Is there still any real original ideas for Slots? Can someone still develop something new and innovative and how can we (gamblers) give our inputs in the development of what we want in Slots?

Yep, the innovation will be if someone create slot game with expected value more than 0, ha ha

And if try to be serious, you must understand that "innovative slots" needs to keep the main idea of slot game as is (i mean that what differ slots from dice, for example) but give some new mechanics (big priority) or visual effects (low priority).
Maybe idea of the game in which you need to play 3 times to get 3 outcomes and if they will be the same - you win (main idea of slot game still the same)


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Ryker1 on December 02, 2021, 09:59:42 PM
Honestly speaking, I never cared about the innovative slots and that's what most people do they just roll and loves the UI/UX which js what that is going to bring us the results and if its our lucky day then we might have win streak with actual profits. But slot games are never ending because they are coming up with different graphics in the online world and the best innovation in the future can be virtual experience.

this is really interesting
some games just... works
slots have resisted the test of time and will probably stay around as they are for years to come.
of course there's space for innovation but the classic will remain around
Well that is exactly right.
There will be nothing to change with the concept of slot games only the design and graphics will change because that is how we determine the game and there should be nothing to change. I remember the question about the game card like playing poker, why the image of the card always has the same symbol, and why not it will not change. So the same as that, the game identify of what it is and mark should be remain.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: dothebeats on December 02, 2021, 10:11:10 PM
No matter the innovation they employ, the main essence of slots still remains. I honestly don't feel the need for any change on the game as it is, at the end of the day, a game of luck, just like dice. UI/UX perhaps may receive a couple retouches here and there, but ultimately, slots don't need to feel fancy in order to make it interesting and get people hooked.

If, in any way, win% on slots can be altered, that game is no longer slots, but dice with added funky elements.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: delfastTions on December 03, 2021, 08:03:55 AM

Well that is exactly right.
There will be nothing to change with the concept of slot games only the design and graphics will change because that is how we determine the game and there should be nothing to change. I remember the question about the game card like playing poker, why the image of the card always has the same symbol, and why not it will not change. So the same as that, the game identify of what it is and mark should be remain.
It is really difficult to imagine how you can change the slots, unless of course you take into account the possibilities to diversify the interface. 
However, here in the topic above someone wrote about the possibility of connecting a neural interface.  This is perhaps the only possible major update for the development of next generation slots. 
But then the question of falsification immediately arises.  A certain person will begin to say that he made a bet, but the neural interface did not count it correctly.  Well, how can you argue or prove otherwise.  Yes, it looks like even the USA Supreme Court  will not figure it out. ;D
More, alas, nothing new and innovative comes to mind.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: maju69 on December 03, 2021, 10:21:03 AM
For some reason, slot games don't make all old gamblers tired of things that are often updated with additional features though. Even with the traditional and old fashion slot machines have not lost the interest of the people out there. Obviously this has brought a lot of changes in terms of the types of gambling games in casinos and as a characteristic of all casinos are slot games.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Obito on December 03, 2021, 10:23:48 AM
~snip
I think it may have been possible to add new changes to slot games like combining two games kind of thing but the problem is what game is it?.
It's difficult to find the right game in slots to combine though as most slots are fundamentally the same so it's just making another variation in slots so I don't see how combining would result in a different kind of slots.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Bitinity on December 03, 2021, 10:46:56 AM
Innovation will never stop, there will be always new idea new innovation in the future. Currently the trend of slot games is what you mentioned in your post but it might be changed in the future both chang back into older type or change into something we have never seen before.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: YOSHIE on December 03, 2021, 11:01:02 AM
Can someone give us an example of a Slot that introduced something new and innovative in the game dynamics and engine lately? Please mention the game and what was new and innovative.  ;)
Manang if you talk about slot games exactly like what you see today, but as far as I know the slot industry they always do the best in innovation and presenting innovative mechanics that can keep players entertained as much as possible.

They continue to innovate to carry out the latest gameplay mechanics for players, for example: Bonanza Gonzo slot game, Quest Megaways, Big TG, although not new, but the technique of how to play has changed, the slot has hundreds of ways to win, at least that way can show you how to play the latest slots, in my opinion it's also one of the newest features, which is creative.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Lucasgabd on December 03, 2021, 11:15:55 AM
Honestly speaking, I never cared about the innovative slots and that's what most people do they just roll and loves the UI/UX which js what that is going to bring us the results and if its our lucky day then we might have win streak with actual profits. But slot games are never ending because they are coming up with different graphics in the online world and the best innovation in the future can be virtual experience.

this is really interesting
some games just... works
slots have resisted the test of time and will probably stay around as they are for years to come.
of course there's space for innovation but the classic will remain around
Well that is exactly right.
There will be nothing to change with the concept of slot games only the design and graphics will change because that is how we determine the game and there should be nothing to change. I remember the question about the game card like playing poker, why the image of the card always has the same symbol, and why not it will not change. So the same as that, the game identify of what it is and mark should be remain.

maybe one thing that still can be changed would be amount of slots or disposition of it like

[X][X][X]
[X][X][X]

having special prizes for 2 lines or combinations of it

but yes, just adding, I don't think this is the game we'll see more innovation in the upcoming years


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Peanutswar on December 03, 2021, 12:06:29 PM
The slot game is one of the old school gambling equipment we use even though its old we still using this and make innovation on it and they created this digitally and with the use of the programmable slot game there's a chance it might fair slot games to make it into the next level i guess having a Virtual reality and Artificial intelligence might add on this feature because this is the new trend in the technology as for now i didn't see a gambling platform supported VR yet.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: michellee on December 03, 2021, 12:28:57 PM
For some reason, slot games don't make all old gamblers tired of things that are often updated with additional features though. Even with the traditional and old fashion slot machines have not lost the interest of the people out there. Obviously this has brought a lot of changes in terms of the types of gambling games in casinos and as a characteristic of all casinos are slot games.
Slot games will not lose its fan, and even slot games can attract more new players to playing the gams. With the bonuses given by the casino to the players, that surely will get them playing for longer and even, they will spend more money to gamble. Slot games will be their favorite gambling games and slot games will get more popular because many gambling sites have that game. The innovations from the gambling sites are not much but the casino will offer many things to their players.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: izsara on December 03, 2021, 12:51:20 PM
Not sure if there is still new innovation that can draw the interest of players.

Perhaps there is one, but still it boils down as how it is going to attract slot players because playing them is just basic, you just have to understand how it works and what is the draw line and what characters will be the bonus for a particular game. So it's hard to reinvent the wheel for slot machines because we have seen them all.

Most players are seeking simplicity and games without too many complications and I guess that's the edge of the slot. Players are contented with it because of the basics of the game. They could make a simple innovation that could make it more exciting but changing the whole game could only make it too complex.
From the start they created a game that was simple and not too complicated to look at and play. and this is what makes them in love.
I personally like this game because of that because it's the simplest thing I've ever played.
apart from losing and winning it is a risk but fun is what keeps me here. Their visuals and their ease of play make me unable to stop playing slots
The game is having  the most simple concept which i could  really not deny that those things you do said were true which is actually on point.They might differ in design
and sound effects but the overall concept or game was just the same and its true that the simplicity of the game which do make it love by most people.
Changes? This would really be a hard question an something that should be answered because not all ideas would really be need to be applied first.
There's no denying this because it seems like everyone who really likes this game feels like it, because it's definitely not just me and you who consider visualization to be the main attraction for fans of this game.
as for the issue of updates and changes I don't think something like this is necessary (for me) because even though they are still using the old way but I really like it


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Wexnident on December 03, 2021, 02:23:33 PM
I hardly think so. Slots is a pretty basic game with it's simple mechanics and rules, and that's probably why it's one of the most staple games out there that most people play. It's simple, so everyone likes it, kind of like how plants vs zombies and other types of puzzle (or any type of game really) are enjoyed by the vast majority of people. Losing that would most likely branch out the game to a separate type, making it ultimately not a "slot" game anymore imo. Honestly even without change, It won't lose it's fan base, at least not any time sooner imo.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: RealMalatesta on December 03, 2021, 02:46:38 PM
Is there still any real original ideas for Slots? Can someone still develop something new and innovative and how can we (gamblers) give our inputs in the development of what we want in Slots?
Why should gambling houses go for new and innovative ideas for their slot games when just modified graphics itself get them enough revenue? I mean usually gamblers do try a new slot when a new name and new graphics are catching their attentions. Moreover, as per psychological aspects gamblers do get bored of same kind of themes which is the reason houses are going for new graphics rather than getting for new experiences for gamblers. Most gamblers do try a new slot game on their first sight with least bankroll or for one or two rolls which must be more than enough for the houses to generate revenue out of just changing looks of a slot game.

SO, I guess there will be less possibilities for houses to go for innovations with slot games as long as gamblers just do try slots whenever they see a new look.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: Lucasgabd on December 03, 2021, 03:27:32 PM
The slot game is one of the old school gambling equipment we use even though its old we still using this and make innovation on it and they created this digitally and with the use of the programmable slot game there's a chance it might fair slot games to make it into the next level i guess having a Virtual reality and Artificial intelligence might add on this feature because this is the new trend in the technology as for now i didn't see a gambling platform supported VR yet.

oh, interesting
this will definitely come with metaverse and VR experiences with oculus
maybe not on facebook metaverses or the main ones
but on the open and descentralized

imagine VR and AR slots, that could be some sort of innovation for the game


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: bekti3 on December 03, 2021, 06:13:52 PM
Slot is pretty straightforward so I don't see any possible change or innovation in slots, just variations and difference in prices, I think it's even impossible to think of a way to innovate slots that's going to benefit both the slot owner and the player.
This is the most likely because it will be very difficult to implement innovations like this and the most innovations that are carried out are as you say and only make better graphics to make the players feel at home there.
there won't be anything new that will be implemented in slots because that's how they work even though it's a very old thing to do

I think most innovations are not that easy to implement since people usually prefer maintaining the status quo than challenging it, not only with games that are well known

I've seen some online places trying to innovate with slots but nothing really different

the first thing that comes to my mind is changing the number to possible slots or changing combinations and possibilities
of course the house edge will stay
What I mean in innovation here is to add some features to a more innovative direction but only in visualization not in terms of the program that is run.
things like this happen a lot these days and it just adds to a few things in common I guess.
on the other hand, now I am starting to see a change by playing games that are currently popular and used as gambling there.


Title: Re: Is there still original ideas for innovation in Slot games?
Post by: milewilda on December 03, 2021, 07:05:50 PM
Slot is pretty straightforward so I don't see any possible change or innovation in slots, just variations and difference in prices, I think it's even impossible to think of a way to innovate slots that's going to benefit both the slot owner and the player.
This is the most likely because it will be very difficult to implement innovations like this and the most innovations that are carried out are as you say and only make better graphics to make the players feel at home there.
there won't be anything new that will be implemented in slots because that's how they work even though it's a very old thing to do

I think most innovations are not that easy to implement since people usually prefer maintaining the status quo than challenging it, not only with games that are well known

I've seen some online places trying to innovate with slots but nothing really different

the first thing that comes to my mind is changing the number to possible slots or changing combinations and possibilities
of course the house edge will stay
What I mean in innovation here is to add some features to a more innovative direction but only in visualization not in terms of the program that is run.
things like this happen a lot these days and it just adds to a few things in common I guess.
on the other hand, now I am starting to see a change by playing games that are currently popular and used as gambling there.
Playing on something is just really on users preference thats why whether they do like to play slots or dice or sports betting then it wont matter because everything will really vary on interest on a certain individual and when it comes to innovation or something like that then we should wait up until
they do make those kind of changes.We are just only here to go for the best or into those which are best looking and interesting.
So lets just stick into it.