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So I recently purchased a smart phone.  Should I be tapping into it's single core processor to get some more coins?  I'm sure it's not very cost effective, but just out of curiousity, has anyone tried this?

Is there anyone who has used a cell phone to mine one of the cpu mining chains?

If the coin can be mined using a graphics card, then mining on any regular processor is going to be a waste of money.

Agreed, so I'm talking about Litecoins, Tenebrix, or Fairbrix.

I believe Solidcoin now has some way of going through a GPU.

You would have to write a custom miner to do it, I think. Unless it runs java, in which case you could try pooler's online one. I don't think it would be worth it though -- from my experience phone heatsinks leave something to be desired, not to mention it would kill your battery. To top it all off, those little ARMs don't have all that much muscle.

But if you try it, please post results =)

Gotcha, it seems like Java doesn't exist on android phones. 

I agree that it would kill the battery, but if I had a charger at work, in the car and at home, I'm not too concerned about that. 

My phone's only a single core processor though, which is more my concern.

Pooler's online miner doesn't work on my phone, I already tried that and posted in that forum.  :)

Once pooler releases the source, assuming your smartphone is android, it shouldn't be TOO difficult to port it into an android app (android is coded in Java, primarily). By kill the battery I didn't mean drain it, but wear it out -- IIRC that's why you're supposed to remove the battery from you laptop when plugged in and at 100%.

We need a Dalvik miner. Seriously.

Or a native C miner and call it using the Android NDK.

Last I checked, we had one.

can't android just run binary compiled for armel architecture?

I would be curious to know if we could mine LTC on a Raspberry PI. http://www.raspberrypi.org/ (http://www.raspberrypi.org/) It's only $25 and really low power. And runs linux. :-)

It would be interesting to know how many k/hashes that device could do.

Sadly the $25 model has no Ethernet controller... but it has a HD GPU 8)

If I had to guess, you'd earn approximately $0.01 USD worth of litecoin per year, as well as wear out your battery and processor a lot faster than with normal use.

FWIW, there is a single line in the Mining Hardware Comparison mentioning a single core ARM processor. At current rates, a fraction of a megahash per second will take a long time to add up to much. The ARM architecture went for energy efficiency vs. raw speed a long time ago, it's a different animal for a different purpose.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

Model     Mhash/s    Mhash/J    Mhash/s/$    ACP [W]    Clock    Version    Comment
ARM        0.187    ?    ?    ?    1200 MHz    cpuminer    Seagate Dockstar ArchLinux

A mining effort that could utilize such small devices as cell phones might avoid the seemingly entropic decay of the return on mining as mining computing power has increased. Weighting the return based on the computing power of the source, such as is done with some projects using the BOINC distributed computing client, would make the game much more interesting.

Gotcha, the megadrain on the processor hurts the ultimate battery life?  I'll remember that if I'm using a laptop.  Thanks!

I think it more has to do with the fact that the battery is discharging/recharging at the same time. There may be newer designs that fix this -- it's just a habit I've gotten into. The heat produced by the processor is also not good for battery chemistries.

"Wearing out" due to being kept at full charge constantly and not being discharged thoroughly will cause the older nickel-cadmium cells to no longer release their full charge, hence the advice to avoid leaving them charging all the time makes sense. Full discharges followed by a charge to capacity are good for such batteries.

The lithium ion batteries common in cell phones, cameras, and laptops ( the 18650 cell is most common in laptop batteries ) have rated lifetimes in terms of the number of charge/discharge cycles and actually benefit from fewer "deep" discharge cycles. Leaving them on charge with an intelligent charger ( as most are ) shouldn't be an issue if heating is not a problem.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

Yep, I live in a hot climate and I keep my laptop's (li-ion) battery in the fridge most of the time.

Android includes most of the standard Java classes in its SDK, so all you need to do is port the litecoinpool source to an app and run it.

I think the phone would burn out before making 1% of it's value back in mining power, but if someone had some spare smartphones it wouldn't really be a waste of electricity if the miner was available.  I have a Nokia 6600 here that could use some abuse!

I have a Motorola Xoom tablet with a dual core 1ghz processor that runs 24/7 so if there was an android app for litecoin mining I would gladly use it, if anybody makes one I'll gladly test it

Just tried loading the Android Bitcoin client on my friends Droid and couldn't even get that to work properly (just to send him some BTC). But now all of a sudden you want us to mine ?LOL

The Android Bitcoin client works perfectly for me and all of the people I've heard of... maybe your friend's android is too old or basic?

Just out of curiosity I tried compiling cpuminer on my iPhone 3G, which (according to Wikipedia) sports a 412-MHz ARM1176 processor. Here's the result:

Are you able to compile it for Android 3.2? My Motorola Xoom tablet sports a Nvidia Tegra2 1ghz dual core processor and runs 24/7 so if I could pull a few extra Kh/s out of it I would be happy.

so 100 hashes for an iPhone?  wouldn't it be some luck to get a block discovery solo mining with your cell phone.

so, keep up the good work and let's get cellphone mining!!!!!!

Unfortunately I don't have an Android device, so the answer is no, sorry. :(

The $35 model have ethernet controller

I hate to see this die, an android miner for anything would be awesome just to play with.

I have been following this thread for a while. Someone recently released a client, although it is very beta.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22811604#post22811604

I talked to the author on IRC, this is a port of the Java miner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52386.0). I guess it is so slow because the Android JVM is not as powerful as the one available for PC.

It would be nice to see a port of the C miner. p2k managed to compile it for the iPad 2, and got about 0.85 khash/s on two cores.

I'm stoked to see this out there although I haven't been able to get more than a miner started message out of it.

Count me in.I want my Nokia N900 to start pulling it's weight. Doe that phone support Java/Java script? So I can use a browser based miner.I tried installing Java (like prompted) but this didn't work.
Can someone create a GUI miner app that uses CPU and GPU (assuming its OpenCl or WebCL based chip) for my Nokia N900? As i keep hearing of solutions yet they're not easy to use/install/run like GUIMiner is.
Does Maemo 5 have a JVM built in (N900s OS)? or can it be installed? If so where from and how to install it?

You can run the actual bitcoind binary on the n900: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2125.0

 Hi
 does any body was able to mining with cellphone  ?
if yes please  share  your  experience

So far in my experience I never encounter that things to be happen in my mobile actually, Just what I encountered is earning bitcoin in my cellphone through playing the game in the androids which is bitcoin floppy by that time. But that would be nice if there is a chance to mine bitcoin in the mobile phone.

You can mine Gridcoins with your Android device, by using it for various scientific computations through BOINC. When I charge my smartphones, BOINC kicks in automatically and I am earning a few Gridcoins along the way.

https://steemit.com/gridcoin/@gridcoinman/the-4-step-guide-for-mining-gridcoin-by-crunching-boinc-science-projects-with-your-android-usd0-startup-cost

Could you please share your experience and give me details to start android mining ?
hardware and software  which is need?
does it profitable ?

I really don't think any smarphone is going to have a processor that can provide enough hashing power.
You are just going to drain your battery for a couple pennies if you are lucky.

The best you could hope for would be an app that monitors your ASIC/GPU/CPU miners from your smartphone, probably.

Gridcoin doesn't use hashing algorithms - it's mined through computational science and floating point math is employed most of the time. You run various scientific computations on your PC/Android through 30 different scientific projects (BOINC) and you get rewarded in Gridcoins for your computing efforts. CPU and GPU computations are rewarded proportionally, so you can net some Gridcoins even with your Android, especially if you have a newer and more powerful device. Many people have 5+ different Android smartphones/tablets - all together, their computing power is comparable to an older x86 CPU, so it's not negligible (at least for Gridcoin).

I do agreed with you also, But is there any altcoin in crypto world nowadays who are implementing this mining on a cellphone? I just wanna know because if there is I wanna try it to my mobile, it will be exciting for the mobile users if they will discover that there cellphone will mine bitcoinBTC.

At the moment mining isn't worthing from a basic home computer with a good CPU, or with a normal GPU card, how the hell is possible to think that mining BTC can be opossible and worthy from a cell phone?
You should consider how many computational resources the mining process need...
Just for laughing, maybe the people's that had theyr Samsung exploded or burned was ythose that tried to mining BTc with smartphone?  ;D

well it's something that is very difficult to do. Since the phone only has a chance or less specification efektiv in conducting mining bitcoin. The computer that has the best specifications not efektiv do mining let alone cell phone that only has a less good specifications in mining bitcoin. rightfully use mining is a good thing

Single core processor? What is it? A Google G1?  ;D

Some advice. Do not do any mining on a phone, tablet or laptop. They always cut corners on thermal dissipation (they usually have to for size constraints and often to cut $ costs). They just will not survive sustained 100% CPU or GPU activity for any reasonable length of time. The only exception would be maybe an old phone (not single core) - you could use 1 of the cores to keep a blockchain alive that you are rescuing from abandonment or a new one that isn't mined in the wild yet. 

keeping the battery in fridge is a very good idea  ;D so hows it working now ,try keeping the laptop too to avoid over heating   :D
is it really possible to mine coins with the use of a cell phone or is it just a joke. even when i tried to mine using my laptop it is becoming red hot and usually shuts down automatically after a couple of hours and how is it possible to mine with a mobile  ???

That's the same observation that i posed some posts before...
For me isn't reasonable to do mining with a cell phone, because system resources needed are too much for a phone.
As we already know, laptop haven't enough computational power to find blocks, it's a silly idea think that a cell phone can do
The only result you can get is that you will end with burn the phone just for mining less satoshis than a bad faucet.
I think didn't worth the risk ;)

well, i'm pretty sure it is possible (but it wont be easy).
the main question should be: Does it worth? you will be screwing up your phone for what? 0.01$/month?

Even the best phones don't have extremely good heat dissipation, even those that claim to have some sort of heatpipes and liquid cooling- for the most part, phones are made to much lower quality standards than computers, even with their chips. I've mined for a good 2 months straight on my phone and nothing terrible has happened yet, so if you'd like to, you're welcome to take the risk. I personally think it's pretty interesting, but if you actually use your phone for a good purpose and store data on it, don't. Don't risk your data.

good to hear that you used to mine using you phone and i would like to know which phone you are using to mine and how would you manage the heating issues and final thing i want to know is which coin have you mined and how much profit have you earned with it.

A Galaxy Grand Prime. I mined Dogecoin for the most part, and it's gotten me around 20 for the time I used it; I ran on one thread and it mined shares pretty slowly. Not much happened with such low power and core usage, but I still don't recommend doing it if you have precious data held on the phone or if it's expensive. My phone was practically free.

Im thinking the same thing too on which these  mining on  mobile phone would  be possible though  but  its not worth it  because  your mobile  phone  would   be worn up or even  blown  up and you  already  mined  a very small amount which is  really bad and we should not  think regarding  on doing this  thing though,

Man, if only every cell phone in the world was mining 1MHs of sha256 completely transparent to the user...we'd have something ridiculous...

I've tried it on my android phone before. but I think you are correct here. Not wort it,and besides when your phone got damage you got more problems. Using phone,you got only minimal satoshis better to join signature campaign IMHO.

What the fuck about that, if you're wanna trying for blaming the cell phone of the op(already retire from here) you should gonna be seeing about the date of the post are made by him. the single processor phone already be a best phone in their golden centuries. >:(

BURSTcoin will have an app to mine you can use on your phone very soon.  Check out their site:

 http://web.burst-team.us

In general it is a different type of where you use hard space on your HDD to mine.  Very green/eco friendly/low power consumption.  It may take some time to plot space on your hard drive but after that you can mine using very little resources...should be the same with a smart phone. 

Price of Burst has also been going up substantially the last few months. 

I wouldn't recommend mining coins on your laptop or cell phone unless you don't mind them getting burnt at the end of the day. But mining BRUST and folding@home on laptop is alright. I have been mining for sometime and it is going without any problems. Recently, a friend of mine suggested me to fold@home for PEPECASH. PEPECASH has been appreciating for a while. I took got 5000 PEPECASH as a giveaway 3 weeks ago worth $0.48 and now it is 2$.

Interested users please check out the links below:
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To join RAREPEPE telegram group:
https://telegram.me/rarepepetradergroup
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Your phone will get burnt and draw lots of power off the battery and damage it but with a laptop it won't so long as you habe enough cooling you are just fine.
Is pepecash better then burst ?

to be able to mine using mobile phone the coin must be like getting upload reward in private torrent  sites other than that if you start mining it will burn you mobile and that will be the reward

I believe that minergate has its own app where you can mine using your mobile phone. You can download it via Google Play Store given that your phone is Android running operated system.

i would not recommended for mining on a cell phone because your cell phone will become so hot and maybe gets hang soon and finally the cell phone will be damage. better use your computer with graphic card rather than cell phone.

Would it be possible to mine CPU coins on phones nowadays? They have many cores and are getting more and more powerful.

No

But you can play games

1st hand experience trying. I installed minergate on my S7 phone and was mining monero. Was thinking of installing this on my entire family's phones but after a week i noticed my phone was getting slower and battery life was shorter. I was making less than a dollar a day. Not worth it. You will lose your phone and end up with less money.

You should try playing game instead:

http://lordmancer2.com/