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Title: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on December 06, 2021, 10:33:24 AM
On January 17th, 2021, the forum faced the registration of its three millionth user. The account name was (and still is) Three Millionth User (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3000000). It was very interesting to observe that s/he had also a Custom Title: "Yes, really". The Custom Title raised questions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309759.msg56229923#msg56229923) about this user being created by an admin or not, but nobody found out for sure how that Custom Title appeared.

It was also interesting to observe this user's activity in the short amount of time while s/he was present on the forum (at the moment of speaking s/he is offline since June 5th, 2021). The one behind the account tried to act cool in the first topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309759.0), then got involved in popular forum areas, such as WO (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102296.msg56234750#msg56234750), CM topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1935179.msg56244866#msg56244866), Merit Cycling Club (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5121375.msg56270286#msg56270286) etc. I felt like the one behind the account tried to get as much exposure as possible.

What was also curious was that the user created a Custom Trust list (https://loyce.club/trust/2021-02-06_Sat_23.22h/3000000.html), kept it for 6 weeks, then wiped out everybody (https://loyce.club/trust/2021-03-13_Sat_04.10h/3000000.html) from the list. For next 10 consecutive week, this user did not have a Custom Trust list anymore, but s/he generated a new one (https://loyce.club/trust/2021-05-29_Sat_06.15h/3000000.html) afterwards, which is kept up to present day. The user never distrusted anybody and was never trusted nor distrusted by any other user.

What was clear though was that the respective user was not a brand new one, seeing to know many of the old forum users and also the areas with best exposure for the new created account.



While I am not questioning anything about this user's actions of the forum (where s/he posted, the trust inclusions / exclusions, they way s/he acted like knowing everybody around etc.), I could not stop wondering what happened and why s/he suddenly disappeared. I don't want to think about something bad which could happen, due to Covid. And if nothing like that happened, then what was the purpose of this user? Why acting like being so happy to be around here, then suddenly to vanish? Why get in touch in so many popular forum areas then simply leave (forever)...? It is hard for me to understand.

I think it was an exotic presence on the forum and... I really wonder if s/he will ever come back.


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: Charles-Tim on December 06, 2021, 11:13:13 AM
It is just a newbie account, there are many more newbie accounts that are no more active on this forum, even the ones for established members (I mean established members newbie accounts). If the account is alt, possibly he is still here with his alt and lazy (get me right, I do not mean he is lazy) to post on his newbie alt. Be it the 3 millionth registered user, he is still a user like other inactive accounts. Just my take on this.


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: suchmoon on December 06, 2021, 11:54:05 AM
A troll account created by someone who should know better. Pretending to be a newbie when they're clearly not. No big loss here, I hope it stays dormant forever.


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: LoyceV on December 06, 2021, 12:29:11 PM
I could not stop wondering what happened and why s/he suddenly disappeared.
My assumption: nobody cared anymore, so the owner lost interest in this alt-account.

Note that someone tried really hard to hit 3 million:
2999998. 3 Millionth User (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2999998)
2999999. Three Millionth Loser (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2999999)
3000000. Three Millionth User (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3000000)


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: BitTalk21 on December 06, 2021, 01:18:12 PM
Is s/he really a 3 millionth user, as due to forum popularity people are too much focused here or all this stuff is normal and you can see any level of surprise here, there are many reasons people disappear s/he maybe done here or maybe this just another account. if an account get inactivated that doesn't mean s/he is no more, maybe that person is no more interested or waiting for your post to get attention.

 



Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on December 06, 2021, 02:05:12 PM
The one behind the account tried to act cool in the first topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309759.0), then got involved in popular forum areas, such as <snip>Merit Cycling Club (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5121375.msg56270286#msg56270286) etc.
Oh wow, that's interesting!  I don't recall that discussion about the Merit Cycling Club whatsoever, and though I haven't scanned through that entire thread yet, I don't believe I posted in it.  I didn't realize there were such questions being asked about Foxpup's club or even that Three Millionth User had popped up there.  In fact, I don't even remember anything posted by him/her.

It is very strange that the actual 3,000,000th member registered on this forum would have that name, no?  I suspect that's not a coincidence at all but was done by Theymos or someone who has influence with him.  It could just be someone who was watching closely and had damn good timing, but somehow I doubt that.

I think it was an exotic presence on the forum and... I really wonder if s/he will ever come back.
Probably, but I bet it won't be until there's another milestone as far as registered members go.  Three Millionth User has got to be someone's alt account and given that they haven't posted much since registering, I suspect that the primary account is too busy.

Edit:  I now know why I missed LoyceV's thread--I have that section on ignore.  Fortunately the thread is still running for some reason, so I'm going to un-ignore it and see about posting in it ASAP.  Thanks for linking to it, OP.


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on December 06, 2021, 03:32:09 PM
My assumption: nobody cared anymore, so the owner lost interest in this alt-account.

Yes, probably...

Note that someone tried really hard to hit 3 million

Lol! It seems that account was very important for that person!

Oh wow, that's interesting!  I don't recall that discussion about the Merit Cycling Club whatsoever, and though I haven't scanned through that entire thread yet, I don't believe I posted in it. [...] I now know why I missed LoyceV's thread--I have that section on ignore.  Fortunately the thread is still running for some reason, so I'm going to un-ignore it and see about posting in it ASAP.  Thanks for linking to it, OP.

I always wondered why you never appeared in the foxhole :) I can say "Welcome to the foxhole!". And definitely, reading all those pages of the thread is a must!

It is very strange that the actual 3,000,000th member registered on this forum would have that name, no?  I suspect that's not a coincidence at all but was done by Theymos or someone who has influence with him.  It could just be someone who was watching closely and had damn good timing, but somehow I doubt that.

Perhaps we'll never know...


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: Lucius on December 06, 2021, 03:36:19 PM
It was very interesting to observe that s/he had also a Custom Title: "Yes, really". The Custom Title raised questions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309759.msg56229923#msg56229923) about this user being created by an admin or not, but nobody found out for sure how that Custom Title appeared.

As far as I know, a custom title is something that only admins can enable, and they do it at the request of the user. For me, the only question is whether it is possible for a newbie to request and get a custom title, or one of the two admins did it on his own initiative. Either way, someone just had a good time and left a little mystery behind - maybe it was Satoshi himself using some secret backdoor on the forum ;)


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: Pffrt on December 06, 2021, 03:54:00 PM
It's someone an established member, no doubt (which newbie would take a look at the last UID registered?). But I'm wondering how did he get the custom title? As far as I know, custom title can only be achieved by donating a sum of BTC or theymos(admin) giving manual access to it. Why did he got a custom title? How did he able to convince admin?


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: LoyceV on December 06, 2021, 04:34:34 PM
My guess is some custom magic was created by Cyrus on Discord.
I was wrong, keep reading ;)


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: UserU on December 06, 2021, 06:14:39 PM
Or just some easter Egg that would be activated if the forum ever come this far with the number of registrations.


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: theymos on December 06, 2021, 10:41:48 PM
It was very interesting to observe that s/he had also a Custom Title: "Yes, really". The Custom Title raised questions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309759.msg56229923#msg56229923) about this user being created by an admin or not, but nobody found out for sure how that Custom Title appeared.

I was pleasantly surprised that the three millionth user turned out not to be a spambot, so I assigned them the title. I don't know who they are, and they wouldn't have even known that I was the one to do it.


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: DireWolfM14 on December 06, 2021, 10:58:07 PM
My assumption: nobody cared anymore, so the owner lost interest in this alt-account.

Note that someone tried really hard to hit 3 million:
2999998. 3 Millionth User (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2999998)
2999999. Three Millionth Loser (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2999999)
3000000. Three Millionth User (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3000000)

I've encountered only one person on this forum (who's also been inactive for a while now) who's narcissism and self adoration is closely reflected by the Three Millionth User (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3000000) account.  Although I wish him the best in his analogue life, I agree with suchmoon; it's best if that cunt remains dormant for all eternity.


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: shahzadafzal on December 07, 2021, 05:50:55 AM
My assumption: nobody cared anymore, so the owner lost interest in this alt-account.

Note that someone tried really hard to hit 3 million:
2999998. 3 Millionth User (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2999998)
2999999. Three Millionth Loser (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2999999)
3000000. Three Millionth User (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3000000)

That's exactly what happened since we know user profile id is visible to any one and we know the latest user id from forum home page.

So it's easy to guess and try couple of profiles to get the exact profile id.

I pointed out same last time on WO and for sure he/she is (was) a senior member and may be an Italian (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=313900.msg57083090#msg57083090) https://emojis.slackmojis.com/emojis/images/1525694795/3871/italian-hand.png?1525694795 and known to WO since his/her forth post was in WO after 3 useless posts.

I 🖤 Bitcoin

A harmless Alt spotted guys....!!

Please tell me you have waited for this... “Three Millionth User”?

Reason: there is no way to know your id before actually creating it. since  there's no way to know before, it means you have been trying it.

Well my guess is right... all below three profiles are created by you  + forth one

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3000000 [Three Millionth User]
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2999999 [Three Millionth Loser]
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2999998 [3 Millionth User]



Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: Pmalek on December 07, 2021, 09:11:39 AM
Well, theymos solved the mystery behind the custom title. But even if he didn't, we could have assumed that it was either him or Cyrus (not sure if Cyrus has the authorization to create custom titles) who added it. Back in the days, you could have donated 50 BTC to become a forum VIP which also gave you the ability to pick a custom title. I doubt we will ever see someone do that again. So if it happens again, it's either because theymos did it on his own or he was in a good mood when someone asked him to do it.


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: FatFork on December 07, 2021, 09:30:59 AM
In this case, I guess the account was registered as an alt, not with the intention of becoming a real user, but just as a trophy account. Perhaps with the hope that one day it can be sold as collectibles. The anticipation of the three millionth account was discussed in this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309759.0), which probably gave him an idea. Two user accounts that preceded the three millionth both include throwaway email addresses in their profiles, so we can assume that the same is true for this account as well.


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: LoyceV on December 07, 2021, 09:35:52 AM
I was pleasantly surprised that the three millionth user turned out not to be a spambot, so I assigned them the title.
How about the four hundred fifty nine thousand, eight hundred thirty sixth user? :D I've always wanted a custom title, and although some say I'm a bot, I like to believe I'm not a spambot :D


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on December 07, 2021, 12:10:26 PM
A troll account created by someone who should know better. Pretending to be a newbie when they're clearly not.
I don't think any serious person believes that person is a newbie. He created an account with the handle "Three Millionth User" that has a UID of 3 million. If you are referring to his rank, you would still be wrong, as he does not control his rank, the forum displays his rank.

Three Millionth User has got to be someone's alt account and given that they haven't posted much since registering, I suspect that the primary account is too busy.
It is a vanity account. Similar to how some people use vanity addresses or vanity license plates. I think most people who are using a vanity address have received at least one transaction before even thinking about creating a vanity address. Similarly, it is very rare for someone to have a vanity license plate on their first car.


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: suchmoon on December 07, 2021, 02:19:27 PM
A troll account created by someone who should know better. Pretending to be a newbie when they're clearly not.
I don't think any serious person believes that person is a newbie. He created an account with the handle "Three Millionth User" that has a UID of 3 million. If you are referring to his rank, you would still be wrong, as he does not control his rank, the forum displays his rank.

Honestly I'd be disappointed if you would ever argue against sockpuppeting.


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: Three Millionth User on December 07, 2021, 05:28:45 PM
A troll account created by someone who should know better. Pretending to be a newbie when they're clearly not. No big loss here, I hope it stays dormant forever.
You are deeply mistaken, because judging by my humble history of messages, I hardly look like a troll. Moreover, in the context of your caustic response, you are more like a troll than I am, but I understand your feelings, and as before, you will continue to remain on my real list of trust.

The Custom Title raised questions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309759.msg56229923#msg56229923) about this user being created by an admin or not, but nobody found out for sure how that Custom Title appeared.
Until today, I thought that "the custom" title was assigned to me by Cyrus, because in the discord someone said that he was the one who added me to the white list, now I know it was teymos, so I want to thank him for that!

It was also interesting to observe this user's activity in the short amount of time while s/he was present on the forum (at the moment of speaking s/he is offline since June 5th, 2021). The one behind the account tried to act cool in the first topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309759.0), then got involved in popular forum areas, such as WO (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102296.msg56234750#msg56234750), CM topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1935179.msg56244866#msg56244866), Merit Cycling Club (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5121375.msg56270286#msg56270286) etc. I felt like the one behind the account tried to get as much exposure as possible.
I think everyone will agree that only a mentally retarded person might think that an account with such an identifier and with such a username belongs to a newbie, especially since it was quite difficult to guess the right time for registration, (the last actually registered ID does not match the data of bpip/Largest profile on Bitcointalk). And I'm not Italian, I just added a list of prominent representatives of the Italian community to my trust list to give you that impression.

But still, I'm not one of those who know everything, that's why I still consider myself a beginner. I have never used PGP, but I signed a bitcoin message once or twice, and if I had to do it again, I would again look for some kind of instruction. It would seem that there are many primitive things that after a while (after registration) every forum member should do at least once, but all these years I was so busy with my real worries that I missed it all.

But the most important thing is that this account only temporarily belongs to me as a trophy account that will not be monetization. The thing is, in the long term, I'm thinking about introducing my son to bitcoin and this forum in particular, and I wanted to prepare the ground for this. That is why I said what I said!

I hope that by the time we see the ten millionth registration the forum will not have undergone significant changes and the newcomers of the future will have to deal with the version of the forum that exists in its current form. Although in 10 years the information on Bitcointalk will still be relevant, I really hope that for future newbies we will not have to create simplified guides, despite the fact that each generation becomes dumber. I hope in the future the situation with activity will become clearer, and we will see an influx of fresh blood!

and

It is a vanity account. Similar to how some people use vanity addresses or vanity license plates. I think most people who are using a vanity address have received at least one transaction before even thinking about creating a vanity address. Similarly, it is very rare for someone to have a vanity license plate on their first car.
Remember your sarcastic answer.

Forgive me if my questions may seem stupid to you. I'm new at this.
I doubt this, lol.
Now, if you can answer these questions, then I can agree with your opinion.

1. Is there a chance Theymos saw the contents of thread 3? Internal settings of the forum.
2. Sirius or did Satoshi remove this thread? I ask because I see Theymos's account was registered two months after the forum was created.
3. I would like to know if there is a way to see which of the users posted messages in thread number 3?

1, 2, and 4 exist in the staff forum. 3 was permanently deleted at some point (it must have contained Satoshi's real name and address).


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: suchmoon on December 07, 2021, 06:04:13 PM
A troll account created by someone who should know better. Pretending to be a newbie when they're clearly not. No big loss here, I hope it stays dormant forever.
You are deeply mistaken, because judging by my humble history of messages, I hardly look like a troll. Moreover, in the context of your caustic response, you are more like a troll than I am, but I understand your feelings, and as before, you will continue to remain on my real list of trust.

It's not about fee-fees, it's about the inherent dishonesty of sockpuppeting the way you do it ("I'm new at this" LOL).

I think everyone will agree that only a mentally retarded person might think that an account with such an identifier and with such a username belongs to a newbie

But apparently only a mentally stable genius would pretend to be a newbie with such an account.

B- for the idea to register this account, solid F for the ostentatiously cringy execution.


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on December 07, 2021, 06:21:17 PM
Now, if you can answer these questions, then I can agree with your opinion.

1. Is there a chance Theymos saw the contents of thread 3? Internal settings of the forum.
2. Sirius or did Satoshi remove this thread? I ask because I see Theymos's account was registered two months after the forum was created.
3. I would like to know if there is a way to see which of the users posted messages in thread number 3?

1, 2, and 4 exist in the staff forum. 3 was permanently deleted at some point (it must have contained Satoshi's real name and address).
I previously (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5322242.msg56512995#msg56512995) answered your questions, and the answers are unlikely to have changed in the preceding 9 months.

I think most likely, thread 2 had content that is similar to thread 3, and satoshi was testing the functionality regarding deleting threads (and possibly posts). He may have made one or more modifications to SMF after deleting the thread.

I am not sure as to where any of threads 1, 2, or 4 were located, or which users were able to view that sub at the time were.

If there were restrictive permissions on thread 3, it is unlikely that anyone except satoshi ever saw that thread. If thread 3 was ever public, it is possible that google or another search engine indexed it, however I think that is very unlikely because satoshi made the first public post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg28#msg28) over two and a half days later.

I can say with a high degree of confidence that there were no replies to thread 3, and anyone looking closely will agree with this statement. This assumes that anything having to do with thread3 was done prior to satoshi's first post.


Anyway, I think it is most likely that you are a very old forum member. My guess is you have been involved in the forum for the greater part of a decade, if not longer.


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on December 08, 2021, 02:47:42 PM
Holy Molly, I resurrected Three Millionth User (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3000000)! :) That was yet another unexpected turn of things, as I (and probably others too) believed there are few chances to see the respective user among us again.

After all, I think it was a good idea to create this topic:

- a mystery was solved (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375621.msg58641869#msg58641869) -- thank you, theymos, for clarifying that
- Three Millionth User is active again -- or, at least, for a while
- everybody found out for sure (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375621.msg58649260#msg58649260) that he was not an ordinary newbie
- maybe some found more answers to possible questions they had
- I vouch for Loyce's four hundred fifty nine thousand, eight hundred thirty sixth user (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375621.msg58645294#msg58645294) and, if I may, also for the one million two hundred eighty-five thousand seven hundred ninety-seventh user as well  ::)

Well, all being cleared out, I think I can lock this topic now (I will do it in 24h from now on). Thank you all for expressing your opinions here.


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: LoyceV on December 08, 2021, 03:07:17 PM
Holy Molly, I resurrected Three Millionth User (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3000000)! :) That was yet another unexpected turn of things, as I (and probably others too) believed there are few chances to see the respective user among us again.
It makes sense: I like - as FatFork puts it (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375621.msg58645254#msg58645254) - the name trophy account. My initial assumption was it's just someone's alt-account, and it makes sense said "someone" is still around.

As for who's alt it is:
~
you will continue to remain on my real list of trust.
That would make it an alt of one of the 189 users who have suchmoon on their Trust list (https://loyce.club/trust/2021-12-04_Sat_05.11h/234771.html). Or is it? It could also just be misinformation, to throw us off track, like this:
I'm not Italian, I just added a list of prominent representatives of the Italian community to my trust list to give you that impression.


Title: Re: The curious case of the forum's three millionth user
Post by: suchmoon on December 08, 2021, 03:46:22 PM
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you will continue to remain on my real list of trust.
That would make it an alt of one of the 189 users who have suchmoon on their Trust list (https://loyce.club/trust/2021-12-04_Sat_05.11h/234771.html).

Russian accent would make it a dead giveaway but it's not difficult to fake nor can you trust anything the newbie sockpuppet says so I'm not gonna go there.