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Title: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Little Mouse on December 08, 2021, 04:10:47 AM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Ararbermas on December 08, 2021, 04:26:34 AM
Definitely a fraud. There's a bunch actually wherein even way back 2017 and all of them can't prove what they're claiming about. Lol  infact some got arrested and if i remember it correctly it happened in public place.  ;D its funny to think to be honest but probably they all wants to obtain attention around the internet..


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: avikz on December 08, 2021, 05:16:59 AM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?

Please read this article which may be able to provide some insights about the entire story of Satoshi Nakamoto,

https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/everything-you-need-to-know-about-bitcoin-its-mysterious-origins-and-the-many-alleged-identities-of-its-creator/articleshow/61895890.cms

There are couple of people who have claimed the throne of Satoshi but Craig wright is the only prominent fraud who had taken it to the court.

You need to understand that there is an unclaimed fortune worth 54 billion usd is lying in the internet. So it's no wonder that people are trying to get their hands on that.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: romero121 on December 08, 2021, 05:33:02 AM
Nick Szabo (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo)
Craig Steven Wright (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Steven_Wright)
Dorian Prentice Satoshi Nakamoto (https://g.co/kgs/tt5pCx)

These three are more into discussion for the innovation. Among them Dorian Prentice Satoshi Nakamoto have denied that he is not Satoshi. One who keeps on claiming himself as Satoshi is Craig Steven Wright.

Craig Steven Wright doesn't have any strong evidence to put forth and prove himself as Satoshi. He is called as fraud for his activities by most popular cryptocurrency enthusiasts/developers like Vitalik Buterin.

Nick Szabo haven't claimed himself as Satoshi. During the days of 2008 he was much into smart contracts development. He also brought in Bit Gold and worked for digicash to bring crypto on digital payments. Based on his historical note he's also among the list who are doubted as Satoshi.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Mbitr on December 08, 2021, 06:17:16 AM
Forum Member extraelv has done a pretty comprehensive list over in ivory tower

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243791.0

It also shows all the whitepaper copyright applications .
Hope this helps :)



Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Ucy on December 08, 2021, 10:30:58 AM
Lots of people have said "We are Satoshi" for some reason that is probably reasonable, what I do think is ok, responsible or reasonable is trying to claim satoshi for evil reasons.   The intention/reason alone can disqualify or qualify the satoshi wannabes.  I guess if you try to achieve what the true satoshi wants and succeed, people could call you satoshi rather than you calling yourself satoshi.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: aysg76 on December 08, 2021, 11:19:29 AM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?
The list is full with many faketoshis but Craig Wright is on top of them who still is running legal cases and all that stuff which is useless and have no point and all btc maximalist knows he can't be the genius behind the bitcoin creation.

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A 48 year old person from Germany claimed that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto. His name is Jorg Molt and known as a German entrepreneur. He started “Satoshi School,” to mislead people.

He was running some scam investment plans and people were fool enough to beleive him as why would the original creator of bitcoin Satoshi ask people to invest in his pension funds when he have 1 million coins stored in different addresses?

[/Quote] In the whole investigation, it is found that he collected a total of 1.8 million euros for his Investment platform named  ” Bitcoin Pension”. [/Quote]

Some other have been mentioned already by the members but we don't need to focus more on them as many will claim this but the reality is we all are satoshi and we don't need to unlock this mystery which is better.Many will be added to the list and Craig Wright will end up badly and will regret creating this whole scene against him.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Lucius on December 08, 2021, 11:28:48 AM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto.

There are people who claim various things, but without convincing evidence, they are all empty words and nothing more. I do not understand that some older members of the forum are also obsessed with what Faketoshi claims, although it is clear to everyone that he has never been able to prove anything. He and anyone else can try to prove for the rest of their miserable lives that they are something they are not, and the best thing in the whole story is that Bitcoin will outlive them, and on the tombstone (figuratively speaking) will be the inscription "Here lies Faketoshi".


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: michellee on December 08, 2021, 11:31:57 AM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?
I do not surprise by that news because with the popularity of bitcoin now, many people want to be the founder of bitcoin but they can not identify if they are the real Satoshi Nakamoto. They do not have access to Satoshi's wallet and they will say that the private keys were lost a long time ago and try to convince the public that they are telling the truth. I do not think much about people who claimed them as Satoshi Nakamoto because they are not the real Satoshi Nakamoto as long as they can not access the wallet. But well, we will see many more will claim themselves as Satoshi ;D


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: nullama on December 08, 2021, 11:37:00 AM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?

Here is a website that could be helpful:

People claiming to be Satoshi (List of Faketoshis) (https://notatether.com/satoshi-nakamoto/people-claiming-to-be-satoshi-list-of-faketoshis/)

If you're interested in spending a lot of time reading about who people think Satoshi might be, definitely have a look at this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5271796.0)


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Little Mouse on December 08, 2021, 11:47:35 AM
There are people who claim various things, but without convincing evidence, they are all empty words and nothing more. I do not understand that some older members of the forum are also obsessed with what Faketoshi claims, although it is clear to everyone that he has never been able to prove anything.
Lucius, I know that mate. They all are fraud and have shared nothing to verify their claiming. But I need the list for something else. Newbies are getting on wrong tracking regarding who is the real satoshi nakamoto. Craig is getting some supporters too. That's why I want to create an article in local language and introduce the fraud as fraud and why these guys claiming to be satoshi are fraud. That's why I'm looking for the list.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: naim027 on December 08, 2021, 01:22:59 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as Satoshi Nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are frauds.
Well, This is his claim, and also few media supports him (Without any verification). No one knows who is original Satoshi Nakamoto is. As You said on Other Thread, Even the original Satoshi Nakamoto could not verify that he is original if he doesn't have a few things access anymore. I think his email satoshin@gmx.com and BitcoinTalk account is one of them.


can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as Satoshi Nakamoto?

According to Investopedia, Three People Claimed to be Satoshi Nakamoto,
  • Dorian Nakamoto,
  • Craig Wright,
  • Nick Szabo

On the other hand, According to https://news.bitcoin.com, There are 10 People Who Might Be Satoshi Nakamoto.

  • Vili Lehdonvirta
  • Paul Le Roux
  • Gavin Andresen
  • Hal Finney
  • Nick Szabo
  • Bram Cohen
  • Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto
  • Craig Wright
  • Dave Kleiman

Source: https://news.bitcoin.com/10-people-who-might-be-satoshi-nakamoto/

Surprisingly, they Listed 9 People Who might be Satoshi Nakamoto and the last one is missing. That might be Original One.
Whenever I think of Satoshi Nakamoto, I saw Dorian Nakamoto as the real One. IDK Why?


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Obito on December 08, 2021, 01:30:51 PM
They're more than just attention seekers, they want the influence and power of being the one to be named Satoshi, besides the prestige there's also the money involved, I mean look at what CSW did with the lawsuit, that's a lot of money to be given to him so more than the attention, the prestige, influence and riches are the biggest motivators for these pretenders.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Henrobakkara on December 08, 2021, 01:32:09 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?

My take is since from the beginning of Bitcoins creation, the owner Satoshi Nakamoto never revealed his/herself to the public, and years down the line, we are having different individuals coming out to claim that they are Satoshi, of cause this is pure fraud. I do however believe that if the real satoshi does intend to reveal who he/she really is, they will come with undeniable proof.  


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: TimeTeller on December 08, 2021, 08:51:49 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?

My take is since from the beginning of Bitcoins creation, the owner Satoshi Nakamoto never revealed his/herself to the public, and years down the line, we are having different individuals coming out to claim that they are Satoshi, of cause this is pure fraud. I do however believe that if the real satoshi does intend to reveal who he/she really is, they will come with undeniable proof. 

Exactly! We don't need impersonators here that can't give solid proof of being Satoshi.
I believe, we just need to accept the fact that if in case Satoshi is still living, he prefers this way.
This is the mystery of bitcoin and I believe it will stay that way for long time.
Anyone can claim he is satoshi but we need convincing proofs before they can truly claim he is.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: zaesvlas on December 08, 2021, 08:59:49 PM
People can now buy everything related to cryptocurrency. Moreover, they often do not even understand what they are buying. This is much worse.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Sanitough on December 08, 2021, 09:09:31 PM
@naim027, I think none in the list is in the real Satoshi.

He would not show in public, that would make him safe because he is one of the richest people in the world already with his btc holding. Knowing Satoshi will not anymore make people interested as they like the way it is now, satoshi is anonymous and that mystery will continue to stay the same until bitcoin finally gains massive adoption.

One thing I noticed, those who claimed they are satoshi are getting bashed in the community, so why would try to claimed if he does not even have a valid proof?


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: TheNineClub on December 08, 2021, 09:30:16 PM
I'd be super suspicious if some came out as Satoshi because it wouldn't really make sense. Why now? Why at all? I doubt we will ever know who is/are Satoshi, and maybe that's a good thing. We do not need a new idol to worship and his presence would actually make things worse for crypto. So I wouldn't buy into the rumors of who is and who isn't.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Lucius on December 09, 2021, 10:46:19 AM
Craig is getting some supporters too.

Of course, it has the support of various Bitcoin haters, as well as those who switched to the dark side just because of the profits they made through their altshitcoins forks. Back in 2016 one of Satoshi Nakamoto’s closest collaborators wrote the following :

Soon after Mr Wright went public, Gavin Andresen, chief scientist at the Bitcoin Foundation, published a blog backing his claim.
"I believe Craig Steven Wright is the person who invented Bitcoin,"

If such an intelligent man (supposedly) can utter such nonsense, then it is quite clear that ordinary people doubt whether there is truth in it or not. Anyone who has read the posts from Satoshi could very easily conclude what kind of man he is and that Faketoshi is the complete opposite of everything that Satoshi Nakamoto represented.



We do not need a new idol to worship and his presence would actually make things worse for crypto.

That's right, there's a reason for everything, but people don't want to accept it. The reason why Bitcoin has succeeded is precisely in the fact that there is not one person who pulls all the strings - this was also clear to Satoshi when he announced that he was handing over Bitcoin to others and would be dealing with some other things.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: masulum on December 09, 2021, 11:02:27 AM
It doesn't matter how many people claim to be the creators of Bitcoin, because a "creator" who doesn't want to be identified will always be hard to find. Satoshi wouldn't reveal himself like Craig did. Satoshi does not work alone, Bitcoin proponents at the start of the project may ask for various rations of money on the grounds that they are entitled to it. If Craig doesn't comply, then he's not a satoshi, and neither is anyone else claiming he's Satoshi.

Let them fight to claim a satoshi, the important thing is that we should always warn people if he claims to be "contacted by Satoshi", he 100% isn't Satoshi, So believe me, that those who claim Satoshi, are 100% not satosi, but scammers. unless accompanied by an email that has been used by Satoshi in the past.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: molsewid on December 09, 2021, 02:21:10 PM
It doesn't matter how many people claim to be the creators of Bitcoin, because a "creator" who doesn't want to be identified will always be hard to find. Satoshi wouldn't reveal himself like Craig did. Satoshi does not work alone, Bitcoin proponents at the start of the project may ask for various rations of money on the grounds that they are entitled to it. If Craig doesn't comply, then he's not a satoshi, and neither is anyone else claiming he's Satoshi.

Let them fight to claim a satoshi, the important thing is that we should always warn people if he claims to be "contacted by Satoshi", he 100% isn't Satoshi, So believe me, that those who claim Satoshi, are 100% not satosi, but scammers. unless accompanied by an email that has been used by Satoshi in the past.

Exactly well said mate, Satoshi if he is still alive today will for sure choose to have a private life like what he did and will enjoy his life, his money, his bitcoin anonimously. With bunch of people claiming to be Satoshi so far none of them have provided proof that will make bitcoin community believe on their self-claim. And if I were also Satoshi I will going to choose a private life also and will enjoy life behind the code name to avoid life conflicts because for sure his life will be in total publicity if he would going to introduce himself to public.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Wawa2013 on December 09, 2021, 03:35:25 PM
It doesn't matter how many people claim to be the creators of Bitcoin, because a "creator" who doesn't want to be identified will always be hard to find. Satoshi wouldn't reveal himself like Craig did. Satoshi does not work alone, Bitcoin proponents at the start of the project may ask for various rations of money on the grounds that they are entitled to it. If Craig doesn't comply, then he's not a satoshi, and neither is anyone else claiming he's Satoshi.

Let them fight to claim a satoshi, the important thing is that we should always warn people if he claims to be "contacted by Satoshi", he 100% isn't Satoshi, So believe me, that those who claim Satoshi, are 100% not satosi, but scammers. unless accompanied by an email that has been used by Satoshi in the past.
Exactly well said mate, Satoshi if he is still alive today will for sure choose to have a private life like what he did and will enjoy his life, his money, his bitcoin anonimously. With bunch of people claiming to be Satoshi so far none of them have provided proof that will make bitcoin community believe on their self-claim. And if I were also Satoshi I will going to choose a private life also and will enjoy life behind the code name to avoid life conflicts because for sure his life will be in total publicity if he would going to introduce himself to public.

There was no need for Satoshi to reveal his identity to the public, because Satoshi knew that revealing his identity to the public would only
cause trouble. I also agree with you, Satoshi was most likely now enjoying his life somewhere. So there was no way Satoshi could reveal
his identity, if someone claims to be Satoshi and without solid evidence, that person is definitely lying. There were indeed some people who
confidently professed themselves to be Satoshi Nakamoto, but none of these people were able to show valid evidence. The conclusion is
that Satoshi Nakamoto's identity is not yet known, so we have to be careful if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto, don't believe him right away.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: kryptqnick on December 09, 2021, 04:28:20 PM
Multiple sources to look for the lists of impostors were suggested by others, and yet I don't think they will cover absolutely everyone. I remember about a year ago someone claimed that they were Satoshi, and they would provide evidence of it very soon. It wasn't a person with a particular name, but rather someone under a pseudonym. Right now I can't even remember anything else about it, but my point is that many non-popular people and groups of people probably claimed to be Satoshi or at least to reveal Satoshi's true identity, but, as the op said, it doesn't mean anything, and it's merely an attention grabber. If Satoshi ever decides to reveal identity, it's not hard to do it by proving to have access to what's assumed to be Satoshi's bitcoins. But I don't think this will ever happen.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: D-law on December 10, 2021, 05:05:38 AM
Cracked my ribs seeing this alone
Satoshi might end up been a 22 year old.
Keep dreaming/ anticipating as we wait patiently to see him.
 


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: The Cryptovator on December 10, 2021, 04:38:10 PM
I think OP got the desired answer who claimed to be Satoshi Nakamoto. If you need more information then you may read this article (https://www.investopedia.com/tech/three-people-who-were-supposedly-bitcoin-founder-satoshi-nakamoto/), there is a short description about their claim. Till now no one succeed to sign a message from Satoshi's Bitcoin address. I don't think Satoshi lost private keys who is the creator really and know very well lost private key means lost ownership of Bitcoin. But if it's true that Satoshi lost all of his private keys then most likely we never gonna introduce to the Bitcoin creator. And to be honest it's not really a need to discover the creator of a decentralized cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: South Park on December 10, 2021, 09:44:17 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?
It is very obvious that all of those that make that claim are lying, if they were the real satoshi then they will have no problem demonstrating who they are by just moving some coins that are believed to belong to satoshi, if they did that then there will be no need to make all of the claims they make, besides why would satoshi want to reveal himself after so many years? After all it cannot be because of the money as he is one of the richest persons alive, could it be for the fame? But he rejected all of that when he did everything he could to remain anonymous, so as you can see it does not really make a lot of sense to come out and reveal his identity on his own after so much time has passed.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: chanler on December 10, 2021, 11:07:27 PM
right, they just need attention. it's a mess and I think it's bothered a lot of people. they show their own evidence and their own reasons, after all I don't really care about that and I'm more focused on my own target in making a profit here. why people claim to be Satoshi of course because there is a reason in it and if many people are deceived then it can harm many people. so stay careful and don't trust people like that. I only avoid things that can be detrimental.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: kaya11 on December 10, 2021, 11:35:05 PM
Nick Szabo (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo)
Craig Steven Wright (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Steven_Wright)
Dorian Prentice Satoshi Nakamoto (https://g.co/kgs/tt5pCx)

These three are more into discussion for the innovation. Among them Dorian Prentice Satoshi Nakamoto have denied that he is not Satoshi. One who keeps on claiming himself as Satoshi is Craig Steven Wright.

Craig Steven Wright doesn't have any strong evidence to put forth and prove himself as Satoshi. He is called as fraud for his activities by most popular cryptocurrency enthusiasts/developers like Vitalik Buterin.

Nick Szabo haven't claimed himself as Satoshi. During the days of 2008 he was much into smart contracts development. He also brought in Bit Gold and worked for digicash to bring crypto on digital payments. Based on his historical note he's also among the list who are doubted as Satoshi.

I am convinced that Dorian is a possibility, he once said that he was part of it and later on claims he did not. Maybe he is Nakamoto and he is just trying to protect his family and everything. But in the end there was no solid evidence and if there are the US government hide it. There are lots of studies about who he really is and the moment you dig in, it keeps get harder to make a conclusion.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Quidat on December 10, 2021, 11:50:11 PM
snip

I am convinced that Dorian is a possibility, he once said that he was part of it and later on claims he did not. Maybe he is Nakamoto and he is just trying to protect his family and everything. But in the end there was no solid evidence and if there are the US government hide it. There are lots of studies about who he really is and the moment you dig in, it keeps get harder to make a conclusion.
None of them i would believed to be Satoshi yet we dont know if this is an individual or a group of people which we cant really point on our fingers and do we really believe that he could easily claim himself or reveal if he knows that he's on danger on creating such decentralized thing?

I dont really believe about those inputs but rather believe into the opposite ones.Let the lists becomes longer and as long no one could

prove out like moving those coins one of those satoshi wallets then they would just be always faketoshi.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: GeorgeJohn on December 10, 2021, 11:54:31 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?
I can equally said that those set of people are fraudster who is looking for people they want to deserve and make away with their money, claiming to be Satoshi is not a new thing because I have come across of this particular or this kind of thread before, but I don't really know if I have render my own opinion here before, but nevertheless let us have it in mind that we can't see Satoshi because he left the community long time ago, except it's a fresher people can have the opportunity to deserve that they are real Satoshi.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Oceat on December 10, 2021, 11:59:05 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?
I can equally said that those set of people are fraudster who is looking for people they want to deserve and make away with their money, claiming to be Satoshi is not a new thing because I have come across of this particular or this kind of thread before, but I don't really know if I have render my own opinion here before, but nevertheless let us have it in mind that we can't see Satoshi because he left the community long time ago, except it's a fresher people can have the opportunity to deserve that they are real Satoshi.
I've seen quite a few in the past that claiming they were Satoshi but none of them could prove it technically. They would just shove their paperwork as if it's enough to be called as Satoshi and one of them is Craig who still pushing the title to be his. But look at it now, what are the results of his claims?

I don't know if there are still people who still believe in their claims that would be a stupid idea if they don't just do their own research. Well, afaik Satoshi is long gone and he/she/they has no plans on getting back since the government are already eyeing on his return so there would be a manhunt if he would ever showed up in this forum.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: bhooscream on December 10, 2021, 11:59:09 PM
So far, there are some people (mostly popular) that claim themselves to be Satoshi. But no one can really prove that he is Satoshi exactly.
And this will be still ongoing to the future, there will be other new people or even similar people again that claim themselves to be the real Satoshi.
Actually, I believe that what Satoshi will reveal himself to the public if Satoshi itself has disappeared so far? I am sure that Satoshi has certain reasons why Satoshi disappeared so far and decide not to reveal his or their identity at that time. And this seems nonsense if Satoshi wants everybody to know who or what Satoshi is right now.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Olayinka2225 on December 11, 2021, 06:18:10 AM
Nobody is Satoshi, somebody is Satoshi.
Nobody should even come out and say he's Satoshi because nobody ever know who Satoshi is. People coming out to claim they're Satoshi are just looking for cheap attention and fame which they won't get.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: worle1bm on December 11, 2021, 06:20:45 AM

On the other hand, According to https://news.bitcoin.com, There are 10 People Who Might Be Satoshi Nakamoto.

  • Vili Lehdonvirta
  • Paul Le Roux
  • Gavin Andresen
  • Hal Finney
  • Nick Szabo
  • Bram Cohen
  • Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto
  • Craig Wright
  • Dave Kleiman

Source: https://news.bitcoin.com/10-people-who-might-be-satoshi-nakamoto/

Surprisingly, they Listed 9 People Who might be Satoshi Nakamoto and the last one is missing. That might be Original One.
Whenever I think of Satoshi Nakamoto, I saw Dorian Nakamoto as the real One. IDK Why?
See we don't know who the real one is but who claim themselves to be the original one are not Satoshi and only want to claim the ownership of funds like CSW or other just want fame but they all are fake and can't give any single proof for the same.

Dorian just resembles the last name only and media hyped him at that time and some still believes he is the original one and have his profile photo on some twitter accounts as well but he himself has denied the claims as he said he misunderstood it but we don't know who is the original creator of bitcoin and in reality it doesn't matter at all.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Chaim Herzog41 on December 11, 2021, 08:35:20 AM
They are simple people who want fame by calling themselves Satoshi 8)


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: dothebeats on December 11, 2021, 08:47:19 AM
Well, if they got the name of Satoshi, they will attract a lot of attention, and they can use their new-found fame for profit by creating projects and businesses to attract a lot of people. We all know that there are only a handful of ways to prove that one is Satoshi, and those impostors so far haven't achieved any of those.

No matter how many of them attempt to take the name for themselves, they would not succeed and would certainly fail to prove their identity.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Mpamaegbu on December 11, 2021, 09:03:36 AM
I'm sure all of them are fraud.
But of course, they're. The situation best explains the scenario of those who don't have anything acting like they've all while those who have are pretending they don't have. The real Satoshi Nakamoto continues to burrow himself in hiding as the world continues to struggle to unravel him, those who seek attention pretend to be him. It's like a butterfly calling itself a bird; that still doesn't make it a bird. I'm sure the whole struggle to be Satoshi is because of the tremendous success Bitcoin has recorded. If Bitcoin had been a failure, definitely no one who've claimed to be him. It goes to show that failure is a bastard. For me, I don't even care who Satoshi is. I'm more focused on what he has given us than placing a face to that name.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: kucritt on December 11, 2021, 09:32:25 AM
no one knows, who is satoshi nakamoto, he is very anonymously, entire world find him but no one knows who is he, is he still alive or not, nobody knows. some people said that satoshi nakamoto are the 5 big companies in japan. but it just a rumor nobody dont know for sure


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: naim027 on December 11, 2021, 11:54:32 AM
See we don't know who the real one is but who claim themselves to be the original one are not Satoshi and only want to claim the ownership of funds like CSW or other just want fame but they all are fake and can't give any single proof for the same.

Dorian just resembles the last name only and media hyped him at that time and some still believes he is the original one and have his profile photo on some twitter accounts as well but he himself has denied the claims as he said he misunderstood it but we don't know who is the original creator of bitcoin and in reality it doesn't matter at all.

Right. Craig is one of them. Dorian is also the same. The media hyped a lot and they made them popular. I assume, Satoshi is not going to reveal ever himself. Bitcoin had its golden time for the last 3 years (especially in 2021). He is inactive from all of his know identity from 2020. No one knows him. If anyone wants to claim that he is Satoshi Nakamoto. He has to prove that with strong evidence. He should have to access his wallet which was used at the earlier beginning of bitcoin mining. He should have access to satoshi's official email account which was satoshin@gmx.com. Also, He should have access to his Bitcointalk forum account. If anyone claims that he is Satoshi Nakamoto, Media should ask them to prove it instead of making them popular. If they failed to access at least one of them, They are 100% frauds.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: deadmousehat on December 11, 2021, 11:58:56 AM
I'm not surprised, there are always people who proudly lie to get the public's attention. I believe all those claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto are scammers and attention seekers and trying to make a profit. the real ones wouldn't suddenly appear and admit it for no reason like them.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Davidvictorson on December 11, 2021, 12:05:42 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?

If Craig claims his keys were hacked,  how are we supposed to believe that the founder of bitcoin didn't find a safe way to keep his keys?  Why didn't he memorise them, or keep them on a piece of paper in a safe?  Are we to believe he kept them on a computer connected to the internet that was hackable? Well, I always thought this day would come.  I really really like it better when we didn't know.  I think it is better for Bitcoin for Satoshi remain a legend.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: LogitechMouse on December 11, 2021, 03:02:53 PM
When we all don't know who the creator is, its expected that many will claim that they are Satoshi.
Craig Wright is by far the biggest fraud of all time when it comes to claiming that they are Satoshi. He is that desperate that he spent time and money in the court just to prove that he really is Satoshi.
Well since we don't know who Satoshi Nakamoto is, maybe we can all say that "We are Satoshi Nakamoto" :).

There are some persons too that they suspected that they are Satoshi. Dorian Nakamoto, Hal Finney, Nick Szabo are just 3 of them since they are the most popular ones but there are no proofs that will justify that they really is Satoshi.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: isaac_clarke22 on December 11, 2021, 07:39:12 PM
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Welp, it is the internet. Everyone could just claim who they are without any backing evidence and leave people questioning. I even one thread here that claims that Satoshi was even one of the staff from Zynga, but the thread was just buried or deleted afaik. Oh and it was a Tiktok video, what a reliable source. ::)


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Renampun on December 11, 2021, 08:13:24 PM
all of those who claim to be satoshi are fake and just want their names to go down in history as bitcoin creators...

On the other hand, According to https://news.bitcoin.com, There are 10 People Who Might Be Satoshi Nakamoto.

  • Vili Lehdonvirta
  • Paul Le Roux
  • Gavin Andresen
  • Hal Finney
  • Nick Szabo
  • Bram Cohen
  • Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto
  • Craig Wright
  • Dave Kleiman

Source: https://news.bitcoin.com/10-people-who-might-be-satoshi-nakamoto/

Surprisingly, they Listed 9 People Who might be Satoshi Nakamoto and the last one is missing. That might be Original One.
Whenever I think of Satoshi Nakamoto, I saw Dorian Nakamoto as the real One. IDK Why?
those on the list do look like satoshi but I believe they are all just big supporters of bitcoin and have nothing to do with the creation of bitcoin. btw, theymos and cobra bitcoin why don't they put them on the list of candidates as real satoshi :D


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: South Park on December 19, 2021, 08:16:14 PM
I'm not surprised, there are always people who proudly lie to get the public's attention. I believe all those claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto are scammers and attention seekers and trying to make a profit. the real ones wouldn't suddenly appear and admit it for no reason like them.
There are even people that confess to crimes that they did not commit just to get some fame, so when we think about this it is not rare that we have so many fake satoshis running around when there are billions and billions of dollars at stake plus all the fame they could get by being recognized as the creators of bitcoin, so it is not surprising and it is likely that this is going to continue for many decades, after all the more popular bitcoin becomes the more people will like to get the credit for it.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: batang_bitcoin on December 19, 2021, 08:54:33 PM
Since somebody has already given the list of claiming themselves as satoshi nakamoto. We don't know if one is really one of them but in our belief, no one on that list is the real satoshi nakamoto. What he's portraying about anonymity has been played excellently and that's why if somebody claims that he is, he just have to show that he owns that million of bitcoins. Otherwise, there's already popularity that's attached to satoshi and the success of bitcoin.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Shasha80 on December 19, 2021, 09:22:14 PM
Since somebody has already given the list of claiming themselves as satoshi nakamoto. We don't know if one is really one of them but in our belief, no one on that list is the real satoshi nakamoto. What he's portraying about anonymity has been played excellently and that's why if somebody claims that he is, he just have to show that he owns that million of bitcoins. Otherwise, there's already popularity that's attached to satoshi and the success of bitcoin.

If anyone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto, it's even more convincing to me that they're not Satoshi Nakamoto. Because the real Satoshi Nakamoto
couldn't possibly show himself to the public, because he knew doing so would put him and his family at danger. Because we know quite a lot of people
who hate the presence of Bitcoin, which is considered a threat to the banking system. Therefore, until now Satoshi Nakamoto has not left any traces,
and maybe will remain anonymous forever. If one day Satoshi Nakamoto finally appears, of course he will show strong evidence that indeed claims
to be the real Satoshi Nakamoto. Meanwhile, people who claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto are now popping up, couldn't show any solid evidence that
they were Satoshi Nakamoto.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Slow death on December 19, 2021, 09:25:04 PM
Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?

you and no one will find anything good having this list because there are ten clowns on it, I myself in the past had the opportunity to see more than 10 faketoshi and they were all ridiculous guys with stories that seemed to be made by 5 year olds, which left me more shocked Is that each guy had a more ridiculous story than the other guy


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Woodie on December 19, 2021, 09:33:26 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?
Craig Wright as claimed to be satoshi for the longest time,I wonder why he doesn't giveup but what I don't understand is why he has not proven his newly found identity via signing of a message to say his the real satoshi to say t5he least....Sometimes I wonder what he has to gain/loss from all this because the real satoshi who believed in privacy would have never give out his identity. This lad needs not to be given the attention he seeks.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: XCANA on December 19, 2021, 10:04:29 PM
They are nothing but just pure attention sicker this is because none of them have access to the Bitcoin wallet of Satoshi account. If they have access then no one will doubt them of being the Satoshi. I think is better for all of them to look for other ways of making themselves popular and not to be claiming what they are not. I read one article about one of them who won a Court case and he has no access to the wallet, what a shame.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Bollexz1 on December 19, 2021, 10:09:27 PM
I expect nothing less to happen, all this wouldn't have happen if Satoshi had revealed himself at the completion of its intervention. Now lots are showing to claim the reward of a great job done. I hope we get to know the real Satoshi with time.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Ziskinberg on December 19, 2021, 11:00:22 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker.
Does it make them famous? I don't think so...
These people are more than seeking for attention but are just likely to get praise. But if cryptocurrency doesn't have this position, they're probably not.

I expect nothing less to happen, all this wouldn't have happen if Satoshi had revealed himself at the completion of its intervention. Now lots are showing to claim the reward of a great job done. I hope we get to know the real Satoshi with time.
That might be possible that nobody even going to believe him either.
That is why I could say that it was better for him to keep anonymous for his whole life in regards to crypto or until the moment comes that he needs to show in public (maybe his family knows already).


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: freedomgo on December 19, 2021, 11:15:01 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker.
Does it make them famous? I don't think so...
These people are more than seeking for attention but are just likely to get praise. But if cryptocurrency doesn't have this position, they're probably not.

I expect nothing less to happen, all this wouldn't have happen if Satoshi had revealed himself at the completion of its intervention. Now lots are showing to claim the reward of a great job done. I hope he get to know the real Satoshi with time.
That might be possible that nobody even going to believe him either.
That is why I could say that it was better for him to keep anonymous for his whole life in regards to crypto or until the moment comes that he needs to show in public (maybe his family knows already).
You're right. I also believe that he should stay anonymous since he was been doing that already for the longest time. And if ever he'll show up, people will still be doubting that he's one of those fake satoshis. And besides, he'll make no difference at all if he decides to come back, so maybe better he should stay out from the spotlight. And for those who claimed themselves as satoshi, they are just after with the fame and recognition that only the real Satoshi deserved it.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Vaculin on December 20, 2021, 04:08:19 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker.
Does it make them famous? I don't think so...
These people are more than seeking for attention but are just likely to get praise. But if cryptocurrency doesn't have this position, they're probably not.

I expect nothing less to happen, all this wouldn't have happen if Satoshi had revealed himself at the completion of its intervention. Now lots are showing to claim the reward of a great job done. I hope we get to know the real Satoshi with time.
That might be possible that nobody even going to believe him either.
That is why I could say that it was better for him to keep   anonymous for his whole life in regards to crypto or until the moment comes that he needs to show in public (maybe his family knows already).
I think the real satoshi if he's still alive, is also updated with what's happening in crypto and is even aware that a lot of fake satoshis are claiming his great job. And chosing not to show up is i think his own idea, and i guess for his own safety too. But its better not to reveal his whereabouts anymore because bitcoin is fine without him and people are already used having bitcoin as decentralized. On the other hand, if Satoshi Nakamoto will reveal his identity, then this claiming themselves as satoshi will be stopped.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Sirait on December 20, 2021, 04:11:28 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?
One by one, those of them who claim that they are Satoshi are being humiliated right now, everyone in this world can claim to be satoshi but no one can prove that they are really satoshi, the simplest way to claim that someone is satoshi is by opening a satoshi account on this forum, if it is true satoshi must have a satoshi account password in this forum.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: JohnBitCo on December 20, 2021, 05:59:28 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?

All of the people who claimed themselves satoshi nakamoto did actually done damage to the identity of satoshi nakamoto. Now its hard to believe anyone who claims himself satoshi. Unfortunately, it seems that it will remain a mystery forever.

Since bitcoin creation purpose was decentralization, so it may be possible that Satoshi wanted to hide himself so that there may be no hint of bitcoin being centralized or having a creator in existence.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: batang_bitcoin on December 20, 2021, 10:26:58 PM
Since somebody has already given the list of claiming themselves as satoshi nakamoto. We don't know if one is really one of them but in our belief, no one on that list is the real satoshi nakamoto. What he's portraying about anonymity has been played excellently and that's why if somebody claims that he is, he just have to show that he owns that million of bitcoins. Otherwise, there's already popularity that's attached to satoshi and the success of bitcoin.

If anyone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto, it's even more convincing to me that they're not Satoshi Nakamoto. Because the real Satoshi Nakamoto
couldn't possibly show himself to the public, because he knew doing so would put him and his family at danger. Because we know quite a lot of people
who hate the presence of Bitcoin, which is considered a threat to the banking system. Therefore, until now Satoshi Nakamoto has not left any traces,
and maybe will remain anonymous forever. If one day Satoshi Nakamoto finally appears, of course he will show strong evidence that indeed claims
to be the real Satoshi Nakamoto. Meanwhile, people who claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto are now popping up, couldn't show any solid evidence that
they were Satoshi Nakamoto.
Yes, there's the automatic connotation that they're not Satoshi if they claim to be. Well, I guess the public is on that judgment whenever we see that someone says that he is Satoshi. But there's the reason why they do that, the fame that Satoshi has got is what they want.
So in order for them to at least get a glance of the real Satoshi's fame, they're just attaching their names and claim that they are Satoshi without even showing a proof.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: sherenikaw on December 20, 2021, 10:37:54 PM
I can't stop thinking about people who claim to be Satoshi, I mean people, especially people here, of course know and won't believe in things like that. I'm sure people like that must have a certain purpose why they do that. but it's not easy to fool people nowadays because of course many people can think clearly. the principle at this time is not to easily believe in a case or news that is not necessarily true, focus on our initial goal of joining the crypto world that is get the profit.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Shasha80 on December 20, 2021, 11:30:39 PM
Since somebody has already given the list of claiming themselves as satoshi nakamoto. We don't know if one is really one of them but in our belief, no one on that list is the real satoshi nakamoto. What he's portraying about anonymity has been played excellently and that's why if somebody claims that he is, he just have to show that he owns that million of bitcoins. Otherwise, there's already popularity that's attached to satoshi and the success of bitcoin.
If anyone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto, it's even more convincing to me that they're not Satoshi Nakamoto. Because the real Satoshi Nakamoto
couldn't possibly show himself to the public, because he knew doing so would put him and his family at danger. Because we know quite a lot of people
who hate the presence of Bitcoin, which is considered a threat to the banking system. Therefore, until now Satoshi Nakamoto has not left any traces,
and maybe will remain anonymous forever. If one day Satoshi Nakamoto finally appears, of course he will show strong evidence that indeed claims
to be the real Satoshi Nakamoto. Meanwhile, people who claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto are now popping up, couldn't show any solid evidence that
they were Satoshi Nakamoto.
Yes, there's the automatic connotation that they're not Satoshi if they claim to be. Well, I guess the public is on that judgment whenever we see that someone says that he is Satoshi. But there's the reason why they do that, the fame that Satoshi has got is what they want.
So in order for them to at least get a glance of the real Satoshi's fame, they're just attaching their names and claim that they are Satoshi without even showing a proof.

It's really sad to see the person who claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto, because they are just using the big name Satoshi Nakamoto to get
the public's attention and they think that's a good thing. Whereas what happens is the opposite, the public will think they are just scammers
and that only harms themselves. Especially now that social media is very influential in human life, so if anyone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto
and is not proven, it just makes the person talked about on a lot of social media as a scammer and that's a pretty heavy social sanction
in my opinion. So don't do stupid things by lying to the public, because the public is getting smarter, they can find the truth very quickly.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: JoyMarsha on December 21, 2021, 06:24:57 AM
With the situation on the ground, it will be difficult to dictate the real Satoshi when he finally shows up. Nevertheless, if he has shown up or is still yet to show up, people will still accuse him of a fraudulent person claiming to be Satoshi. The real Satoshi is an unknown individual that doesn't want to bring up himself to the limelight for the whole world to see. That was why he keeps being anonymous up to date. Satoshi or no Satoshi, bitcoin remains anonymously held in wallets


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Distinctin on December 21, 2021, 07:24:50 PM
I can't stop thinking about people who claim to be Satoshi, I mean people, especially people here, of course know and won't believe in things like that. I'm sure people like that must have a certain purpose why they do that. but it's not easy to fool people nowadays because of course many people can think clearly. the principle at this time is not to easily believe in a case or news that is not necessarily true, focus on our initial goal of joining the crypto world that is get the profit.
I can't really think of atleast one or two reason on why would someone claim that he/she is the real Satoshi Nakamoto because certainly nobody would believe that claim and people will demand proof to certify the claim wether he/she is the real one. That somebody is clearly out of his/her mind, and it's just an absolute act to calling for a threats from notorious people who wants to nab Satoshi's wealth. Good luck to that claim!


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: uneng on December 21, 2021, 08:00:46 PM
There are also the Bogdanoff Twins (https://news.bitcoin.com/the-bogdanoff-twins-claim-they-participated-in-helping-satoshi-nakamoto-build-bitcoin/) who said to have helped Satoshi Nakamoto to elaborate part of the source code of bitcoin. And actually I think they were smarter in their approach than every other personalities around claiming to be Satoshi himself, expecting to get some attention while still keeping part of their credibility intact (at least with the meme community).

Actually, attention is what all these guys making such claims are looking for. With some luck they can even launch a new crypto project using this kind of fake news as self-promoting marketing.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Quidat on December 21, 2021, 08:13:14 PM
I can't stop thinking about people who claim to be Satoshi, I mean people, especially people here, of course know and won't believe in things like that. I'm sure people like that must have a certain purpose why they do that. but it's not easy to fool people nowadays because of course many people can think clearly. the principle at this time is not to easily believe in a case or news that is not necessarily true, focus on our initial goal of joining the crypto world that is get the profit.
I can't really think of atleast one or two reason on why would someone claim that he/she is the real Satoshi Nakamoto because certainly nobody would believe that claim and people will demand proof to certify the claim wether he/she is the real one. That somebody is clearly out of his/her mind, and it's just an absolute act to calling for a threats from notorious people who wants to nab Satoshi's wealth. Good luck to that claim!
They are just proclaiming without minding their security and its true that you are really putting yourself in danger if you do claim out that you are Satoshi.Well, people doesnt really believe directly without any proofs but who knows on if there's something bad intent which do in line already just because you had proclaimed that you are Satoshi. Even upto now we do have lots those faketoshis
trying out to say that they are satoshi but all of them failed on showing solid proofs that there were. So just let  them be on what are the things they do want to do
as long there would be no proofs then this do really ends up on trolling.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: yhiaali3 on December 21, 2021, 08:21:07 PM
There are many personalities who all claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto, but up to this time none of them has been able to prove this. The most famous of these alleged personalities:
Craig Wright
Dorian Nakamoto
Nick Szabo
But no one can know Satoshi's true personality, nor can it be sure yet if Satoshi is a single person or a group of people, for me I tend to believe that Satoshi is a group of people and not a single person because the system that he invented is difficult for a single person to do all this amazing feat To change the face of the economic system in the whole world.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Kasabus on December 21, 2021, 09:06:55 PM
There are many personalities who all claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto, but up to this time none of them has been able to prove this. The most famous of these alleged personalities:
Craig Wright
Dorian Nakamoto
Nick Szabo
But no one can know Satoshi's true personality, nor can it be sure yet if Satoshi is a single person or a group of people, for me I tend to believe that Satoshi is a group of people and not a single person because the system that he invented is difficult for a single person to do all this amazing feat To change the face of the economic system in the whole world.
And no one can really tell exactly if Satoshi Nakamoto is still alive or not. But knowing he's the founder of bitcoin, then his name deserves great recognition from all of us who have benefited from his early invention. This is the reason that some people intend to steal his name just for the sake of fame and recognition. But even if how many fake satoshis will come in the market and deceive the people, the truth will always prevail that no one can replace the brilliant mind of the real Satoshi Nakamoto.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Lizzylove1 on December 21, 2021, 09:15:32 PM
People will keep claiming to be Satoshi, I have read some articles I can't laid hands on of some conspiracy theorem of Satoshi coming from England, I believe no one knows for sure where he is from because he left no signature on the net for tracking him.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: adzino on December 21, 2021, 09:44:14 PM
Nothing new. Of course a lot of people have tried and will try to claim that they are Satoshi Nakamoto. Imagine the fame they will have if they somehow manages to trick people into thinking that he/she is Satoshi. And he will be able to cause some impact on the market. But people aren't dumb. No one is going to believe some random guy who claims that he is Satoshi unless he is able to provide some solid prove (sign a message?) that he really is Satoshi.  Just google it and you will find a list of Faketoshis.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: icopress on December 21, 2021, 09:58:33 PM
There are many personalities who all claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto, but up to this time none of them has been able to prove this. The most famous of these alleged personalities: Dorian Nakamoto, Nick Szabo [...]
What? You would also say that Neil Armstrong was the first person to conquer space.

But back ... as far as I know, neither Dorian Nokamoto nor Nick Sabo nirazu declared that they are Satoshi, so I would not assign them the title of Faketoshi! In both cases, these were journalistic investigations. If you look at the Wiki, you will understand that both journalist Leah Goodman and Dominic Frisbee were looking only for fame, trying to publish material that would correspond to the news stories of those years. I really don't remember the circumstances surrounding Hal Finney's publication of IP addresses that allegedly linked Satoshi's identity to Dorian Nakamoto ... but oh well.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Hypnosis00 on December 21, 2021, 10:57:08 PM
Nothing new. Of course a lot of people have tried and will try to claim that they are Satoshi Nakamoto. Imagine the fame they will have if they somehow manages to trick people into thinking that he/she is Satoshi. And he will be able to cause some impact on the market. But people aren't dumb. No one is going to believe some random guy who claims that he is Satoshi unless he is able to provide some solid prove (sign a message?) that he really is Satoshi.  Just google it and you will find a list of Faketoshis.
yeah but they prove nothing and just fail their claims as this name Satoshi is unique and can never be found anymore (I think). These people who claim to be Satoshi has nothing to do with their life but just to gain attention and nothing else.

Well, anyway, we just let these people think that they are the famous Satoshi as there is nothing it credits to them. They are just making themselves a fool. In fact, we know that there is no other Satoshi that exists in crypto, and stay anonymous, and these people who claim are just fake.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Japinat on December 21, 2021, 11:11:46 PM
The community will not be surprised anymore if someone would claim to be satoshi,  they'll not believe it as they have already put in their mind that "satoshi" is "anonymous"... That would not change, it's our belief from the start bitcoin was invented and there's no reason to change that belief because bitcoin is successful that way.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: cheezcarls on December 24, 2021, 02:39:29 PM
Until now, I still don’t believe their claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto, not even that Craig Freaking Wright of Bitcoin SV. They can claim that they’re the real Satoshi, but the true Satoshi won’t reveal himself (unless he really does in the near future and showing a lot of accurate proof that he is the one behind creating Bitcoin).


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: South Park on December 27, 2021, 08:18:10 PM
Nothing new. Of course a lot of people have tried and will try to claim that they are Satoshi Nakamoto. Imagine the fame they will have if they somehow manages to trick people into thinking that he/she is Satoshi. And he will be able to cause some impact on the market. But people aren't dumb. No one is going to believe some random guy who claims that he is Satoshi unless he is able to provide some solid prove (sign a message?) that he really is Satoshi.  Just google it and you will find a list of Faketoshis.
And despite this people keep trying to claim they are satoshi, and it is not difficult to understand why, even if the community will never accept someone that claims to be satoshi but never presents any evidence the media is bound to push the story and claim that this person is satoshi, why? Because they do not care, they just want to get clicks and be relevant so they will say whatever is needed to grab the attention of the people, also it is entirely possible that governments are in fact paying them to undermine the confidence people have in bitcoin by making a point of the fact that the person behind bitcoin is anonymous and no one really knows who he was.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Ebede on December 27, 2021, 10:36:00 PM
Until now, I still don’t believe their claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto, not even that Craig Freaking Wright of Bitcoin SV. They can claim that they’re the real Satoshi, but the true Satoshi won’t reveal himself (unless he really does in the near future and showing a lot of accurate proof that he is the one behind creating Bitcoin).
Why their doing like that is due to they want to be popular and they want to scam somebody with the name Satoshi, many people is repeating the same thing every year and season nobody knows if Satoshi is alive or not, for some times it never come online to show herself as originator of bitcoin


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: aysg76 on December 28, 2021, 08:53:00 AM
There are many personalities who all claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto, but up to this time none of them has been able to prove this. The most famous of these alleged personalities:
Craig Wright
Dorian Nakamoto
Nick Szabo
But no one can know Satoshi's true personality, nor can it be sure yet if Satoshi is a single person or a group of people, for me I tend to believe that Satoshi is a group of people and not a single person because the system that he invented is difficult for a single person to do all this amazing feat To change the face of the economic system in the whole world.
There are many who have claimed to be the orginal one or the inventor behind the decentralised crypto bitcoin like Craig Wright and Nick Szabo but they all are the faketoshi actually because they can't prove their ownership of funds which is the key to their wallets and think they can fool people easily but that's all in vain.

The main reason behind some claiming to be Satoshi is to get into the limelight and gain popularity only as btc is hot topic and media and general public takes a lot of interest in them so they want to be in media sensation which is very common to see among many these days.

Some others want to scam people to take funds from them and run scam donation camps like the germany faketoshi who was charged under $3-$4 million of btc scam by claiming he is Satoshi Nakamoto but the fools are those who believe them in reality.Just the other day i made a thread about them to make you aware through a meme which has deep meaning for those who can understand it.

A meme worth understanding... (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5378762.msg58831922#msg58831922)

I can also stand in the market the other day to say I am also Satoshi Nakamoto and would you believe me without any valid proofs? So same is the case with them they will come and go so need not to make them feel privileged.

In the end i would say we all are Satoshi..


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: ipanks on December 28, 2021, 10:52:39 AM
I will not think much about those who claim themselves as Satoshi but I will not believe if they can prove that they are real Satoshi. I do not think that the public will also believe them because as long as they can not access the wallet that Satoshi used before, it will useless. Until now, we do not know or have a sign of who Satoshi is so I think we should let that big secret like that. Satoshi needs privacy and people should understand that and not try to search for who he is.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: btc78 on December 28, 2021, 11:14:10 AM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?
I don't think that it is possible to list all of those people because we can only name the popular one but those Shitheads ? and also even if we will list now then the following days or weeks there will be popping again to claim being satoshi Nakamoto .
I will not think much about those who claim themselves as Satoshi but I will not believe if they can prove that they are real Satoshi. I do not think that the public will also believe them because as long as they can not access the wallet that Satoshi used before, it will useless. Until now, we do not know or have a sign of who Satoshi is so I think we should let that big secret like that. Satoshi needs privacy and people should understand that and not try to search for who he is.
Craig Wright is the nearest of them all but even Him is fail to prove him being satoshi meaning?
there is no real satoshi on all of those who claims first .


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Andreaslag on December 28, 2021, 06:51:32 PM
I think they are at least 100+ satoshi fakes, maybe 1000+ if we include the smaller scams.
I wonder if the true satoshi reveals himself toward the end of his life.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: mynonce on December 29, 2021, 02:18:27 AM
I’m the “SpaceX intern” who speculated Satoshi is Elon Musk. There is more to the story.
https://medium.com/@sahil50/im-the-spacex-intern-who-speculated-satoshi-is-elon-musk-there-is-more-to-the-story-1cd16604bef0 (https://medium.com/@sahil50/im-the-spacex-intern-who-speculated-satoshi-is-elon-musk-there-is-more-to-the-story-1cd16604bef0)

'My name is Sahil Gupta, and I run spase.io, a 3D software company based in San Francisco. I’ve worked for SpaceX (’15) and Tesla (‘18), and I am the “SpaceX intern” who speculated that Satoshi Nakamoto is Elon Musk.
...
But there is one more reason, which wasn’t my place to share 4 years ago. Circumstances have led me to realize now might be the time.
The other reason I am near certain that Satoshi is Elon is that 4 years ago I had a call with Sam Teller, Musk’s then chief of staff.
...
Then as the call was about to end, I asked him, Hey is Elon Satoshi?
There was silence for 15 seconds.
Then Teller said, “Well, what can I say?”.
Not a paraphrase. Actual words.
Then I said Wow. Awkward silence. Bye. And that was the end of the conversation.'



Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Chato1977 on December 29, 2021, 03:17:11 AM
I’m the “SpaceX intern” who speculated Satoshi is Elon Musk. There is more to the story.
https://medium.com/@sahil50/im-the-spacex-intern-who-speculated-satoshi-is-elon-musk-there-is-more-to-the-story-1cd16604bef0 (https://medium.com/@sahil50/im-the-spacex-intern-who-speculated-satoshi-is-elon-musk-there-is-more-to-the-story-1cd16604bef0)

'My name is Sahil Gupta, and I run spase.io, a 3D software company based in San Francisco. I’ve worked for SpaceX (’15) and Tesla (‘18), and I am the “SpaceX intern” who speculated that Satoshi Nakamoto is Elon Musk.
..


Ohh , so in this Version it is ELon Mush to be Satoshi? then why not Elon Take out all the 1 million Bitcoin in His account As satoshi nakamoto to use in His spacex project?

But i Will never buy this one, i would rather believe that Craig Wright is the real satoshi than this clown Elon .


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: xSkylarx on December 29, 2021, 07:11:29 AM
People will keep claiming to be Satoshi, I have read some articles I can't laid hands on of some conspiracy theorem of Satoshi coming from England, I believe no one knows for sure where he is from because he left no signature on the net for tracking him.

I'm not sure why so many people are claiming to be Satoshi, given that the real one is keeping his identity a secret and there are many people working to solve the mystery. I believe this is due to their desire to be famous. As for myself, if I am the real Satoshi, I am not going to say so publicly because I want to keep my identity a secret and just sit back and watch my creation. From my perspective, it is a truly peaceful existence, and money is not a concern. Still not certain who satoshi is, but there has been news reported that a court trial is taking place, claiming that he is the real satoshi. It is a great article, but we are still not certain who satoshi is.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: naim027 on December 30, 2021, 02:23:20 PM
I'm not sure why so many people are claiming to be Satoshi

I guess there is no other reason other than to be popular and get attention from the media. Suppose you claim that you are Satoshi but you didn't prove that. Still, some media will cover you for TRP. And you will get some attention for sure.

There could be another reason. People can claim to be Satoshi to scam others. For example, we know that Dorian is not the real Satoshi Nakamoto. Still, if you search Satoshi Nakamoto on Google, You will see Dorian Nakamoto's photo. He becomes popular now. Only crypto geek people understand that no one knows who is real Satoshi. But, most of the people who are new at crypto will easily believe that Dorian is the real one. Dorian can use his popularity to scam people if he wants.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 03, 2022, 04:46:14 PM
Nothing new. Of course a lot of people have tried and will try to claim that they are Satoshi Nakamoto. Imagine the fame they will have if they somehow manages to trick people into thinking that he/she is Satoshi. And he will be able to cause some impact on the market. But people aren't dumb. No one is going to believe some random guy who claims that he is Satoshi unless he is able to provide some solid prove (sign a message?) that he really is Satoshi.  Just google it and you will find a list of Faketoshis.
And despite this people keep trying to claim they are satoshi, and it is not difficult to understand why, even if the community will never accept someone that claims to be satoshi but never presents any evidence the media is bound to push the story and claim that this person is satoshi, why? Because they do not care, they just want to get clicks and be relevant so they will say whatever is needed to grab the attention of the people, also it is entirely possible that governments are in fact paying them to undermine the confidence people have in bitcoin by making a point of the fact that the person behind bitcoin is anonymous and no one really knows who he was.

You are right, and I think it is better that he be so that it is not known who Satoshi is, I do not see what reason there is, because if he leaves he would be prosecuted and willing to public derision, this is something that is not worth it, if it is him or them , It is not worth it, I prefer that it always remain anonymous, especially so that governments and banks never have the pleasure of knowing, also many who claim to be satoshi are fakers, like Craig, never in life could I be Satoshi with that attitude that he has, it could be that many say that it was Steve Jobs, and many more that they have other levels of intelligence and relevance that are respectable, but there are others who give it a shame.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Tumanggor on January 03, 2022, 09:02:46 PM
You are right, and I think it is better that he be so that it is not known who Satoshi is, I do not see what reason there is, because if he leaves he would be prosecuted and willing to public derision, this is something that is not worth it, if it is him or them , It is not worth it, I prefer that it always remain anonymous, especially so that governments and banks never have the pleasure of knowing, also many who claim to be satoshi are fakers, like Craig, never in life could I be Satoshi with that attitude that he has, it could be that many say that it was Steve Jobs, and many more that they have other levels of intelligence and relevance that are respectable, but there are others who give it a shame.

I think the most dangerous thing that will happen when Satoshi's identity is revealed is a very big terror from the government

but I wonder why there are still many who claim to be Satoshi, are they not afraid of the possibility of being killed by those who feel threatened because of the presence of bitcoin

satoshi has an extraordinary analysis and must have taken into account all the possibilities that happened when his/her identity was published so being anonymous was the best decision he/she made


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Newlifebtc on January 03, 2022, 10:14:29 PM
You are right, and I think it is better that he be so that it is not known who Satoshi is, I do not see what reason there is, because if he leaves he would be prosecuted and willing to public derision, this is something that is not worth it, if it is him or them , It is not worth it, I prefer that it always remain anonymous, especially so that governments and banks never have the pleasure of knowing, also many who claim to be satoshi are fakers, like Craig, never in life could I be Satoshi with that attitude that he has, it could be that many say that it was Steve Jobs, and many more that they have other levels of intelligence and relevance that are respectable, but there are others who give it a shame.

I think the most dangerous thing that will happen when Satoshi's identity is revealed is a very big terror from the government

but I wonder why there are still many who claim to be Satoshi, are they not afraid of the possibility of being killed by those who feel threatened because of the presence of bitcoin

satoshi has an extraordinary analysis and must have taken into account all the possibilities that happened when his/her identity was published so being anonymous was the best decision he/she made
We know that Satoshi very well that can not show it self again those people claiming to be Satoshi are doing that to get firm and also trying to scam people with the influence of Satoshi that is popular to every one, many people have enter into Bitcoin and they are looking for a way to get attached with Satoshi so that they  can scam some one with the name


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: SmokerFace on January 03, 2022, 10:35:43 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?

Attention seeking most likely.

I see these kinds of people every day in my life and they're messed up in their head for some reason, It's obvious that their lies won't be unnoticed for long but they somehow seem to overlook that.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: chrisperrault on January 03, 2022, 10:48:19 PM
Yes, I think so. There are a lot of people in crypto trying to do something like this. It is painful, but people like them are in all other worlds. The onlt think we could do is trying to identify such people and avoid them!


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: habebe on January 04, 2022, 08:18:20 AM
it's really a scam ever since the number of hackers online pretending and then i got a news that they were caught scamming others and it was caught that they were pretending to be a bitcoin investment so people can easily believe because bitcoin  is of great value so in the end it was a scam and even used the name bitcoin ...


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: AicecreaME on January 04, 2022, 11:39:41 AM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?

There are so many personalities that had claimed they are Satoshi Nakamoto way back, but it isn't really ever confirmed that either of them is the real founder of bitcoin. Some of the personalities that are involved in this claiming of identity/pseudonym are Hal Finney, Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto, Nick Szabo, and recently Craig Wright. I don't really think that Satoshi Nakamoto is really one of them because, in the first place, Nakamoto decided to hide behind a pseudonym to keep his identity private. With that, we can conclude that privacy is of importance to Nakamoto. It doesn't really appear to me that he will suddenly showcase himself to the world out of nowhere just to gain some recognition which clearly he doesn't like nor fond of because he hid for a long time already. I don't see any reason for him to tell his real identity and be invaded afterward.

These people who keep on claiming to be Nakamoto only want recognition, praise, and maybe money. Because as we all know, Satoshi is really well-known and by claiming they are him, people will be glorified to be their partner. This scenario could lead to scamming. So, it's really better to not easily believe what you see, read or hear over the internet or news. Always do thorough background checking before spreading data to avoid misinformation.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: South Park on January 04, 2022, 10:02:28 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?

Attention seeking most likely.

I see these kinds of people every day in my life and they're messed up in their head for some reason, It's obvious that their lies won't be unnoticed for long but they somehow seem to overlook that.
This is very common nowadays, there are many people that cannot simply do something because they enjoy doing it and instead they are always trying to get attention from others in some way or another, while some are just caught in the times we live and eventually get over it I have known many people that are sick and try to find that attention in any way they can, so it is not difficult to guess that some of those that claim to be satoshi are people like that.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Botnake on January 04, 2022, 11:06:14 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?

Attention seeking most likely.

I see these kinds of people every day in my life and they're messed up in their head for some reason, It's obvious that their lies won't be unnoticed for long but they somehow seem to overlook that.
This is very common nowadays, there are many people that cannot simply do something because they enjoy doing it and instead they are always trying to get attention from others in some way or another, while some are just caught in the times we live and eventually get over it I have known many people that are sick and try to find that attention in any way they can, so it is not difficult to guess that some of those that claim to be satoshi are people like that.
The only reason that i think why they claim themselves as satoshi is to own the recognition that only the real satoshi deserves. Because if others will fall for them, merits will be sent for them, taking it as their advantage. But one thing is certain, Satoshi Nakamoto has planned all of these because he knew before that these things will eventually happen. So leaving the forum all of a sudden is intentional.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: stomachgrowls on January 04, 2022, 11:16:22 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?

Attention seeking most likely.

I see these kinds of people every day in my life and they're messed up in their head for some reason, It's obvious that their lies won't be unnoticed for long but they somehow seem to overlook that.
This is very common nowadays, there are many people that cannot simply do something because they enjoy doing it and instead they are always trying to get attention from others in some way or another, while some are just caught in the times we live and eventually get over it I have known many people that are sick and try to find that attention in any way they can, so it is not difficult to guess that some of those that claim to be satoshi are people like that.
The only reason that i think why they claim themselves as satoshi is to own the recognition that only the real satoshi deserves. Because if others will fall for them, merits will be sent for them, taking it as their advantage. But one thing is certain, Satoshi Nakamoto has planned all of these because he knew before that these things will eventually happen. So leaving the forum all of a sudden is intentional.
For sure he wasnt expecting for Bitcoin to be this big on a decades time but it  did really turn out to get that recognition from the entire community considering on how much value it did able to raise up.

Claiming as satoshi wont really be doing something good as long they couldnt show off solid proofs then they would rather making themselves to be looking like a clown in the entire community.

Just take and example on whats the view or impression of the community towards CSW? Total clown isnt it?  :D


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: IadixDev on January 07, 2022, 06:21:00 PM

Whenever I think of Satoshi Nakamoto, I saw Dorian Nakamoto as the real One. IDK Why?

Just throwing my 2 cents but regarding how much care he put on being anonymous i really doubt he would have used his real name anywhere.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Slow death on January 07, 2022, 06:26:25 PM
So I started thinking, what if I also claim to be Satoshi? Will I benefit? ;D ;D ???

all you get is a full-scale onslaught of criticism from the nerd community and an everlasting hate, you're also going to get a lot of heartache because you'll be ridiculed all over the internet, i don't see how that would be an advantage. better to stay away from this faketoshi lore than to have headaches forever


Whenever I think of Satoshi Nakamoto, I saw Dorian Nakamoto as the real One. IDK Why?

Just throwing my 2 cents but regarding how much care he put on being anonymous i really doubt he would have used his real name anywhere.

maybe he used his real name because no one would suspect it because it's obvious


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: ChiBitCTy on January 07, 2022, 06:35:31 PM
The thing is that Satoshi was one of the most private people you'll seemingly ever meet ( or not meet for that matter ).  If you speak with those who worked with him directly, they will all tell you that any time that they tried speaking with Satoshi about anything personally what so ever, that he would simply ignore it.  That's why it's quite hard to believe that all of a sudden he would just come out and be public.  I just don't see it.

I sure as shit know that the great Dr Craig Wright is NOT satoshi  #fakesatoshi


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: IadixDev on January 07, 2022, 06:57:39 PM
maybe he used his real name because no one would suspect it because it's obvious

If what he want to hide from is government that would still be the first thing they look for, this kind of reverse psychology trick would not work with government agencies.

On the other hand can wonder why using something that still look like a real name at all, unless its a reference to something or someone but never saw this being elucidated.

Or maybe he needed something that look like a real name to register into some service or another. But even so he would probably have used something fake and generic not to give much clue.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Quidat on January 07, 2022, 08:24:53 PM
The thing is that Satoshi was one of the most private people you'll seemingly ever meet ( or not meet for that matter ).  If you speak with those who worked with him directly, they will all tell you that any time that they tried speaking with Satoshi about anything personally what so ever, that he would simply ignore it.  That's why it's quite hard to believe that all of a sudden he would just come out and be public.  I just don't see it.

I sure as shit know that the great Dr Craig Wright is NOT satoshi  #fakesatoshi
3 people alleged or claims to be satoshi.
https://www.investopedia.com/tech/three-people-who-were-supposedly-bitcoin-founder-satoshi-nakamoto/

But i wont still believe that he would easily exposed himself into the public knowing that it would be risky for him
then i dont think that he would consider such action.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Finestream on January 07, 2022, 09:43:56 PM
The thing is that Satoshi was one of the most private people you'll seemingly ever meet ( or not meet for that matter ).  If you speak with those who worked with him directly, they will all tell you that any time that they tried speaking with Satoshi about anything personally what so ever, that he would simply ignore it.  That's why it's quite hard to believe that all of a sudden he would just come out and be public.  I just don't see it.

I sure as shit know that the great Dr Craig Wright is NOT satoshi  #fakesatoshi
The real satoshi will prefer to be more anonymous and yet updated on the current events on the crypto market because that's the right thing to do, and he has been doing that for almost a decade. So maybe he has really no plans exposing himself, not now or even in the future. So expect that there will be more fake satoshis coming in the future and i would not be surprise either if the real satoshi suddenly comes out, he will also be considered a fake satoshi. So he's more safe if he just stay anonymous.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: lucates on January 11, 2022, 08:09:45 AM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?
I do not surprise by that news because with the popularity of bitcoin now, many people want to be the founder of bitcoin but they can not identify if they are the real Satoshi Nakamoto. They do not have access to Satoshi's wallet and they will say that the private keys were lost a long time ago and try to convince the public that they are telling the truth. I do not think much about people who claimed them as Satoshi Nakamoto because they are not the real Satoshi Nakamoto as long as they can not access the wallet. But well, we will see many more will claim themselves as Satoshi ;D

Why did he choose to remain anonymous? Why didn't he want the credit?  Maybe there many reasons behind this. People believe  this was commended to be the reason for bitcoin's success too but his fans have been curious too. Fakers gonna fake but the world is pore to about him or her.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Reatim on January 11, 2022, 09:06:32 AM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?
Almost everyone mentioned each Satoshi that They known and even if how they claimed to be Satoshi yet all of them are fraud and not welcome to be named as Satoshi.

So i think this thread cares nothing but spam so Hope OP will locked this now as all of the named are already listed so there are no reason to further the topic.

I sure as shit know that the great Dr Craig Wright is NOT satoshi  #fakesatoshi
I think the Title should be changed to " Who claimed to be FAKETOSHI"


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: peter0425 on January 11, 2022, 10:36:39 AM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?
I do not surprise by that news because with the popularity of bitcoin now, many people want to be the founder of bitcoin but they can not identify if they are the real Satoshi Nakamoto. They do not have access to Satoshi's wallet and they will say that the private keys were lost a long time ago and try to convince the public that they are telling the truth. I do not think much about people who claimed them as Satoshi Nakamoto because they are not the real Satoshi Nakamoto as long as they can not access the wallet. But well, we will see many more will claim themselves as Satoshi ;D

Why did he choose to remain anonymous? Why didn't he want the credit?  Maybe there many reasons behind this. People believe  this was commended to be the reason for bitcoin's success too but his fans have been curious too. Fakers gonna fake but the world is pore to about him or her.
This is why Bitcoin success climbs here now because of that reason of the Creator being anonymous or what they say Hiding his Identity.

But to be Honest? I am afraid if Satoshi or the group behind Satoshi is still alive  as the hunt from the authority or the groups is rampant yet no proof of personality .


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Mr.sprin on January 11, 2022, 01:33:49 PM
many people can only claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto but they can't prove he is really Satoshi Nakomoto, maybe in the future someone else will appear who will acknowledge him as Satoshi but as long as Satoshi's wallet can't be opened it means he's not Satoshi.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: oudomopo on January 11, 2022, 02:03:40 PM
A lot of people are claiming to be satoshi, but satoshi is a coding expert. People claiming to be satoshi wanted that 1M bitcoin that he has. Last time we heard the "REAL" satoshi was in March of 2014 saying that he is not Dorian Nakamoto.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: IadixDev on January 11, 2022, 03:03:35 PM
Why did he choose to remain anonymous? Why didn't he want the credit?  Maybe there many reasons behind this. People believe  this was commended to be the reason for bitcoin's success too but his fans have been curious too. Fakers gonna fake but the world is pore to about him or her.

He second to last post was about the "swarm headed to us" after the press started to associate wikileaks with bitcoin.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: dataispower on January 12, 2022, 06:20:21 AM
A lot of people are claiming to be satoshi, but satoshi is a coding expert. People claiming to be satoshi wanted that 1M bitcoin that he has. Last time we heard the "REAL" satoshi was in March of 2014 saying that he is not Dorian Nakamoto.
I agree with you, Many who claimed to be Satoshi and gone, Satoshi left bitcoin in 2010 close range of November and since them no body has seen the post of Satoshi Nakamoto in the forum but people claim to be Satoshi without a qualified prove that they are Satoshi nakamoto, but it is Surprise for people claim to bear another person name who is not their relates, i know that theymos know Satoshi method of writing and both of them have meet once, so he knows that people claiming to be Satoshi are fake


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Peanutswar on January 12, 2022, 08:14:57 AM
Nothing new because most of them would like to get the credit and some just making a troll on it well nothing wrongs with it unless there's a real authenticity that might shoes up he/she is the real satoshi Nakamoto. By that it will become a huge responsibility will burden and questions. I guess if the bitcoin existence will continue still the same question on it who is the creator and why he/she doesn't show up.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Mr.sprin on January 12, 2022, 12:24:08 PM
Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto won't appear in public Satoshi Nakamoto doesn't want his popularity to remain a mystery forever. So if now many people appear who claim to be satoshi, then that person is a liar, they seek popularity with the name satoshi.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: e_abrams on January 12, 2022, 04:10:25 PM
I don't think any of these people have ever given any definitive proof that they are, indeed, Satoshi Nakamoto. Sometimes I wonder if the real Satoshi steps up we'd even believe it.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: jamkesmas on January 13, 2022, 02:42:39 AM
I think bitcoin has been around for a very long time but the creator has never appeared in public. I think people who claim to be Satoshi are liars, it is very unlikely that he will appear in public seeing that he has been mysterious for so long it is impossible to suddenly appear, it would be interesting if he remained mysterious.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Abiky on January 13, 2022, 11:50:13 AM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?

You've said it yourself. All of them are fraud. The REAL satoshi is either dead or simply hidden in order to protect Bitcoin's image as much as possible. Craig is only a fraudster as he's been unable to prove the ownership of Satoshi's original Bitcoin addresses. Signing the keys and showing proof to the public will be the best thing to do in order to bring confidence from the crypto community. It really doesn't matter who Satoshi is, since the community is the one who made Bitcoin a success after all these years. Ever since Satoshi left in 2011, Bitcoin's been growing non-stop. What makes you think the unveiling of Satoshi be any different?

I think if the REAL satoshi is discovered, then that would mean the end of Bitcoin. Governments will be on his/her tail in order to put him/her in jail or faces fines. After all, he created something that goes against Fiat. You'd think Satoshi will be stupid enough to reveal his/her identity when his/her freedom (and probably life) is at stake? It's better to never know who Satoshi is or really was, since Bitcoin is all about decentralization. As long as it fulfills its promise of bringing "banking to the unbanked", nothing else matters. Just my thoughts ;D


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Smartvirus on January 13, 2022, 07:22:22 PM
It's no secret that, anyone who claims to be the anonymous inventor gets lost of attention from the public and such news is what the media wants. In this era of social media and bloggers seeking clicks, reposts and all, anyone could just put out a claim and become famous in no time. Its no surprise many have used this name to remain in the spotlight. Even Elon came up with his own time of claim sometime ago, not to be the anonymous inventor but to have guessed who it was. Apparently, he guessed wrong because, we are all Satoshi Nakamoto though, he @Elon archived his aim of being in the spotlight as he so wants to be.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Desmong on January 16, 2022, 10:39:49 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?
I am not surprised cause more people are still going to surface as the real Satoshi Nakamoto.  I believe they are as much as gullible to the later consequences they might face if the government eventually tag them as the real man behind the coming fall of individual currency which is going to happen soon with time. Since Nakamoto decided to hide his identity away from the society, then is it now that he's going to unveal it? Some persons can be funny at times.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: SNakamota on January 17, 2022, 02:05:46 PM
Ok the real Satoshi Nakamoto is a man named Lukasz Morysewicz. Myself. I was who gave Craig the idea to manufacture email proof from 2007 to 2009 and use it to try and prove he's Satoshi. I created Bitcoin when I was 6 years old, 1999, but was amnesiad. When I came across bitcoin in 2007, I was certain I was it's creator but had no idea how to prove it. I was in contact with Craig and hence came up with why don't you try to do what I'm trying to do. Also in 2007 I was looking for someone to claim to be the creator of the Silk Road since I'd never let the real creator go to jail. I instructed Ross to create the Red Wagon Bookstore to launder money he'd receive but never planned to pay him. Yet in 2011 when I created the email rossulbricht@gmail.com and changed it to frosty before giving the account to Ross was to put FBI on his tracks. He'd never do something so stupid. And in 2011 he was willing to do what we had discussed in 2007 without me having paid him. I built bitcoin practically single-handedly from the ground up and Silk Road was not the only thing I was involved in. I'm currently planning on proving this with a lie detector test and taking it to court against Craig. I'm who instructed a Molly in possession of my keys to give them to Craig and for Craig to move a coin so I'd be aware of where to find my keys strangely because I'd be suffering amnesia again. I'm completely broke with no job but I finally had one of my best ideas yet. For the first time in my life I think I know how to prove I am Satoshi Nakamoto, with a lie detector test. Just need to wait for when I have a few hundred dollars for a lie detector test and take that to court. What I speak is truth.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Abiky on January 17, 2022, 03:07:04 PM
If they're claiming about the owning of bitcoins, then ask them to control the price and the value. I've firmly believed only the owner of bitcoin can stop its value. We all know about Satoshi Nakamoto. First, he belongs to Japan while Craig is from the United States. In the world of bitcoin, everything is a fraud, and you can not trust anyone easily.

If the owner of Bitcoin can stop its value, then it wouldn't be decentralized anymore. This would make Bitcoin no different than the banking system of today. Only true decentralization will allow Bitcoin to live for generations with or without its creator. There are so many people claiming to be Satoshi only because they want fame and fortune. The real creator is either dead or simply hiding in the shadows in order to avoid being caught by the authorities.

I'd say it's best to never know who Satoshi is or who he/she really was, since it would do more harm than good to Bitcoin. The community is what keeps a blockchain network strong, not a single person. Eventually, the mainstream media will become tired in their search of Satoshi, as they focus on other important things. As long as Bitcoin fulfills its purpose, nothing else matters. Just my thoughts ;D


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Newlifebtc on January 17, 2022, 03:36:22 PM
If they're claiming about the owning of bitcoins, then ask them to control the price and the value. I've firmly believed only the owner of bitcoin can stop its value. We all know about Satoshi Nakamoto. First, he belongs to Japan while Craig is from the United States. In the world of bitcoin, everything is a fraud, and you can not trust anyone easily.

What we should be talking about is that if some one is claiming to be Satoshi the person is suppose to come front and say Bitcoin is created by him and looking at the surface of it Bitcoin is not for fraud is created to support fiat currency and for easy service and save of currency, because is decentralized currency that you will handle with you own security properties


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: SNakamota on January 17, 2022, 07:08:12 PM
Yea bitcoin is super valuable because it's property and can be devaluated regardless of it's actual value to avoid paying income taxees. Also bitcoin in a sense doubles money because when one buys bitcoins their money goes into a bank which then spends the money and the bitcoins can be spent as well. No one really is claiming themselves except Craig Wright who is doing it due to reason mentioned above. It's strange he's trying to prove he's Satoshi and not spending the coins, when he's got the keys. No one's stopping him. He's an honorable man, not what a fraud is.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Lanatsa on January 17, 2022, 08:54:17 PM
If they're claiming about the owning of bitcoins, then ask them to control the price and the value. I've firmly believed only the owner of bitcoin can stop its value. We all know about Satoshi Nakamoto. First, he belongs to Japan while Craig is from the United States. In the world of bitcoin, everything is a fraud, and you can not trust anyone easily.

If the owner of Bitcoin can stop its value, then it wouldn't be decentralized anymore. This would make Bitcoin no different than the banking system of today. Only true decentralization will allow Bitcoin to live for generations with or without its creator. There are so many people claiming to be Satoshi only because they want fame and fortune. The real creator is either dead or simply hiding in the shadows in order to avoid being caught by the authorities.

I'd say it's best to never know who Satoshi is or who he/she really was, since it would do more harm than good to Bitcoin. The community is what keeps a blockchain network strong, not a single person. Eventually, the mainstream media will become tired in their search of Satoshi, as they focus on other important things. As long as Bitcoin fulfills its purpose, nothing else matters. Just my thoughts ;D
With this alone then you could really say that it isn't decentralized after all and that would surely crash out Bitcoins value in the first place.There are lots of people who had been proclaiming

that theyre Satoshi but no one had able to prove it out and they do know on how popular Satoshi is speaking off Bitcoins creator then they are just simply using that for their own intent.

Thing here is that the entire community does know on whats real and whats fake and Satoshi wont really easily be coming out for that reason.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: amihada on January 18, 2022, 09:00:39 AM
Actually, the goal of those who recognize themselves as Satoshi Nakamoto is only to seek popularity. They are just wasting time. I think those who recognize themselves as Satoshi Nakomoto are very stupid people.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: btc78 on January 18, 2022, 09:20:26 AM
Actually, the goal of those who recognize themselves as Satoshi Nakamoto is only to seek popularity. They are just wasting time. I think those who recognize themselves as Satoshi Nakomoto are very stupid people.
It isn't about attention but about how much they can take if ever , there are Million of BTC in Satoshi Nakamoto account so if ever who got this amount will surely become an instant Billionaire so that is why there are so many stupid people still trying to claim that name.

and also they will become an instant celebrity because in the past the claimant like Craig Wright becomes an instant crypto community celebrity .


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: NeuroticFish on January 18, 2022, 09:40:52 AM
It isn't about attention but about how much they can take if ever , there are Million of BTC in Satoshi Nakamoto account so if ever who got this amount will surely become an instant Billionaire so that is why there are so many stupid people still trying to claim that name.

Ummm... no. One can claim whatever he wants, but without the private keys of those addresses no claimant can spend those coins, no matter what. Not on current bitcoin.
On the other hand, even without claiming anything, whoever has those keys can spend the money.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Rufsilf on January 18, 2022, 11:50:30 AM
If they're claiming about the owning of bitcoins, then ask them to control the price and the value. I've firmly believed only the owner of bitcoin can stop its value. We all know about Satoshi Nakamoto. First, he belongs to Japan while Craig is from the United States. In the world of bitcoin, everything is a fraud, and you can not trust anyone easily.

If the owner of Bitcoin can stop its value, then it wouldn't be decentralized anymore. This would make Bitcoin no different than the banking system of today. Only true decentralization will allow Bitcoin to live for generations with or without its creator. There are so many people claiming to be Satoshi only because they want fame and fortune. The real creator is either dead or simply hiding in the shadows in order to avoid being caught by the authorities.

I'd say it's best to never know who Satoshi is or who he/she really was, since it would do more harm than good to Bitcoin. The community is what keeps a blockchain network strong, not a single person. Eventually, the mainstream media will become tired in their search of Satoshi, as they focus on other important things. As long as Bitcoin fulfills its purpose, nothing else matters. Just my thoughts ;D
With this alone then you could really say that it isn't decentralized after all and that would surely crash out Bitcoins value in the first place.There are lots of people who had been proclaiming

that theyre Satoshi but no one had able to prove it out and they do know on how popular Satoshi is speaking off Bitcoins creator then they are just simply using that for their own intent.

Thing here is that the entire community does know on whats real and whats fake and Satoshi wont really easily be coming out for that reason.

The thing is, if bitcoin isn't decentralized then I think there's no advantage at all trusting and investing on it, also there would no successful crypto up until now because the bitcoin itself was the foundation and start of crypto evolution we're now experiencing.
Yes you're right @Lanatsa, the whole community/industry will know if the original Satoshi Nakamoto will start moving again and won't be swayed for some random fake wanna be.

I'm just a bit curious tho, what would they gain for claiming that they're the real SN? If it's not fame and popularity, then what?


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Congyang on January 18, 2022, 01:59:26 PM
Actually, the goal of those who recognize themselves as Satoshi Nakamoto is only to seek popularity. They are just wasting time. I think those who recognize themselves as Satoshi Nakomoto are very stupid people.
although stupid but it will greatly affect their popularity even though the reputation and popularity is bad in some circles.
on the other hand there may be some advantages because they think they are satoshi although I don't really care about that because indeed they are free to make whatever they want including claiming they are satoshi and I am also free to do what I want including not trusting people -people who claim to be satoshi :D


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Oneandpure on January 18, 2022, 02:56:08 PM
Actually, the goal of those who recognize themselves as Satoshi Nakamoto is only to seek popularity. They are just wasting time. I think those who recognize themselves as Satoshi Nakomoto are very stupid people.
although stupid but it will greatly affect their popularity even though the reputation and popularity is bad in some circles.
on the other hand there may be some advantages because they think they are satoshi although I don't really care about that because indeed they are free to make whatever they want including claiming they are satoshi and I am also free to do what I want including not trusting people -people who claim to be satoshi :D
Many people try to claim they are real Satoshi Nakamoto by giving many proof but I think they try how to make public look at him, not real Satoshi Nakamoto want to proof his identity because he has many bitcoin assets in his wallet and try how to be careful. Exactly when any body know about him he not safety again because many people try to get access his wallet and many criminal cases happening when public know his identity. Not only for assets safety but also Satoshi Nakamoto try to hidden his identity because he want live without any entertainment publish about him.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Congyang on January 18, 2022, 06:08:16 PM
Actually, the goal of those who recognize themselves as Satoshi Nakamoto is only to seek popularity. They are just wasting time. I think those who recognize themselves as Satoshi Nakomoto are very stupid people.
although stupid but it will greatly affect their popularity even though the reputation and popularity is bad in some circles.
on the other hand there may be some advantages because they think they are satoshi although I don't really care about that because indeed they are free to make whatever they want including claiming they are satoshi and I am also free to do what I want including not trusting people -people who claim to be satoshi :D
Many people try to claim they are real Satoshi Nakamoto by giving many proof but I think they try how to make public look at him, not real Satoshi Nakamoto want to proof his identity because he has many bitcoin assets in his wallet and try how to be careful. Exactly when any body know about him he not safety again because many people try to get access his wallet and many criminal cases happening when public know his identity. Not only for assets safety but also Satoshi Nakamoto try to hidden his identity because he want live without any entertainment publish about him.
maybe because he really wants freedom that's why satoshi keeps him anonymous, apart from security he might not want to be exposed to what he created.
and that's perfectly natural because people need freedom and keep their privacy and security as you say.
On the other hand, when many people claim satoshi today with a number of facts, it certainly makes us think why not from the beginning and why only now. Of course many people don't believe in that even though they stubbornly claim they are satoshi


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Swapster on January 19, 2022, 12:46:21 AM
BidEither8981... you are the type that will never admit you are wrong.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: andriarto on January 19, 2022, 01:46:55 AM
Actually, the goal of those who recognize themselves as Satoshi Nakamoto is only to seek popularity. They are just wasting time. I think those who recognize themselves as Satoshi Nakomoto are very stupid people.
although stupid but it will greatly affect their popularity even though the reputation and popularity is bad in some circles.
on the other hand there may be some advantages because they think they are satoshi although I don't really care about that because indeed they are free to make whatever they want including claiming they are satoshi and I am also free to do what I want including not trusting people -people who claim to be satoshi :D
Many people try to claim they are real Satoshi Nakamoto by giving many proof but I think they try how to make public look at him, not real Satoshi Nakamoto want to proof his identity because he has many bitcoin assets in his wallet and try how to be careful. Exactly when any body know about him he not safety again because many people try to get access his wallet and many criminal cases happening when public know his identity. Not only for assets safety but also Satoshi Nakamoto try to hidden his identity because he want live without any entertainment publish about him.
maybe because he really wants freedom that's why satoshi keeps him anonymous, apart from security he might not want to be exposed to what he created.
and that's perfectly natural because people need freedom and keep their privacy and security as you say.
On the other hand, when many people claim satoshi today with a number of facts, it certainly makes us think why not from the beginning and why only now. Of course many people don't believe in that even though they stubbornly claim they are satoshi
even if the real satoshi now appeared, many people couldn't believe it right away. after bitcoin is famous and has just appeared, there will be many questions that arise. I think satoshi will keep himself a secret forever, as a result he already has a lot of money and can enjoy to his heart's content, and go anywhere without being followed by a camera


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Spacebar96 on January 19, 2022, 07:10:18 AM
A lot of people are claiming to be Satoshi nakamoto for self gains and popularity. Satoshi is not where to be found, and whosoever claiming to be Satoshi must be able to access his wallet.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: JohnBitCo on January 19, 2022, 08:29:37 AM
Actually, the goal of those who recognize themselves as Satoshi Nakamoto is only to seek popularity. They are just wasting time. I think those who recognize themselves as Satoshi Nakomoto are very stupid people.
although stupid but it will greatly affect their popularity even though the reputation and popularity is bad in some circles.
on the other hand there may be some advantages because they think they are satoshi although I don't really care about that because indeed they are free to make whatever they want including claiming they are satoshi and I am also free to do what I want including not trusting people -people who claim to be satoshi :D
Many people try to claim they are real Satoshi Nakamoto by giving many proof but I think they try how to make public look at him, not real Satoshi Nakamoto want to proof his identity because he has many bitcoin assets in his wallet and try how to be careful. Exactly when any body know about him he not safety again because many people try to get access his wallet and many criminal cases happening when public know his identity. Not only for assets safety but also Satoshi Nakamoto try to hidden his identity because he want live without any entertainment publish about him.
maybe because he really wants freedom that's why satoshi keeps him anonymous, apart from security he might not want to be exposed to what he created.
and that's perfectly natural because people need freedom and keep their privacy and security as you say.
On the other hand, when many people claim satoshi today with a number of facts, it certainly makes us think why not from the beginning and why only now. Of course many people don't believe in that even though they stubbornly claim they are satoshi

This is very clear that Satoshi is a anonymous identity and he may never come in public. All those who are claiming to be Satoshi are fake ones and should never be trusted.
What make me sad is that there are some famous personalites who falsely claim themselves but they all are fake or making public fool
Satoshi identity will always remain a mystery.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: molsewid on January 19, 2022, 11:30:17 AM

This is very clear that Satoshi is a anonymous identity and he may never come in public. All those who are claiming to be Satoshi are fake ones and should never be trusted.
What make me sad is that there are some famous personalites who falsely claim themselves but they all are fake or making public fool
Satoshi identity will always remain a mystery.

This kind of claim has been an issue already for the past years but then no one have had proved their eligibility as Satoshi. Well, I guess no one knows who Satoshi is in real life and he really the anonymous guy that of course every now and then people or community of cryptocurrency would love to meet him. Now, I think no one has ever heard about him and no one knows exactly if he is still alive but I hope he is and could see how successful bitcoin is now and I know he is proud of what bitcoin had achieved over a decade of existence.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: MIner1448 on January 19, 2022, 11:50:13 AM
The identity of Satoshi will never be revealed, because part of the bitcoin hype is embedded in this anonymity, the whole society likes to be in the dark about the identity of the creator of the king of cryptocurrency. I think once the identity of Satoshi is found or revealed, it will definitely have a negative impact on the price of bitcoin.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: BuNga_cute on January 19, 2022, 01:42:34 PM

This is very clear that Satoshi is a anonymous identity and he may never come in public. All those who are claiming to be Satoshi are fake ones and should never be trusted.
What make me sad is that there are some famous personalites who falsely claim themselves but they all are fake or making public fool
Satoshi identity will always remain a mystery.
This kind of claim has been an issue already for the past years but then no one have had proved their eligibility as Satoshi. Well, I guess no one knows who Satoshi is in real life and he really the anonymous guy that of course every now and then people or community of cryptocurrency would love to meet him. Now, I think no one has ever heard about him and no one knows exactly if he is still alive but I hope he is and could see how successful bitcoin is now and I know he is proud of what bitcoin had achieved over a decade of existence.

It's not a new thing that many people have claimed themselves to be Satoshi Nakamoto, maybe because many people are curious about
the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, so some people take advantage of this to commit scam. But as long as they couldn't show solid evidence
that they were Satoshi Nakamoto, it was clear they were fake Satoshi Nakamoto. I don't think Satoshi Nakamoto will ever show himself
to the public, because the risk is too great if Satoshi Nakamoto's identity is known. Then we don't need to look for the whereabouts of
Satoshi Nakamoto, let him be anonymous forever, because it's the best for Satoshi Nakamoto and also for the future of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: ChiBitCTy on January 19, 2022, 02:07:24 PM
Actually, the goal of those who recognize themselves as Satoshi Nakamoto is only to seek popularity. They are just wasting time. I think those who recognize themselves as Satoshi Nakomoto are very stupid people.
although stupid but it will greatly affect their popularity even though the reputation and popularity is bad in some circles.
on the other hand there may be some advantages because they think they are satoshi although I don't really care about that because indeed they are free to make whatever they want including claiming they are satoshi and I am also free to do what I want including not trusting people -people who claim to be satoshi :D

This is exactly right, this is also exactly why Craig Wright claims to be Satoshi. He sure as shit isn’t Satoshi but he claims to be because it makes him hugely popular.  He is given a lot of money and support by his foolish followers which had made him rich. So there’s a huge advantage to lying about it all, of course.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: blatchcorn on January 19, 2022, 02:16:48 PM
Actually, the goal of those who recognize themselves as Satoshi Nakamoto is only to seek popularity. They are just wasting time. I think those who recognize themselves as Satoshi Nakomoto are very stupid people.

And irony is that we keep on discussing such people and keep giving them fame which is there prime goal. If someone is real satoshi then he can prove that by moving bitcoin out of that famous Satoshi Bitcoin wallet. None of them was able to do that, so it's our collective responsibility to ignore such faketoshis.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Congyang on January 19, 2022, 07:09:05 PM
Actually, the goal of those who recognize themselves as Satoshi Nakamoto is only to seek popularity. They are just wasting time. I think those who recognize themselves as Satoshi Nakomoto are very stupid people.
although stupid but it will greatly affect their popularity even though the reputation and popularity is bad in some circles.
on the other hand there may be some advantages because they think they are satoshi although I don't really care about that because indeed they are free to make whatever they want including claiming they are satoshi and I am also free to do what I want including not trusting people -people who claim to be satoshi :D

This is exactly right, this is also exactly why Craig Wright claims to be Satoshi. He sure as shit isn’t Satoshi but he claims to be because it makes him hugely popular.  He is given a lot of money and support by his foolish followers which had made him rich. So there’s a huge advantage to lying about it all, of course.
this is what one would seek from claiming to be a satoshi.
for me personally, it doesn't matter if he does anything including claiming he's a satoshi because I don't really care about that.
but on the other hand there are still many people who do believe that he is really satoshi because of the series of data he reveals and they automatically laud this person's figure.
I totally agree with those of you who say that people who believe he is a satoshi are stupid people :D


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: _BlackStar on January 19, 2022, 08:10:23 PM
And irony is that we keep on discussing such people and keep giving them fame which is there prime goal. If someone is real satoshi then he can prove that by moving bitcoin out of that famous Satoshi Bitcoin wallet. None of them was able to do that, so it's our collective responsibility to ignore such faketoshis.
This kind of discussion won't have a significant impact on CW's growing popularity among people who claim to be Satoshi in the real world. We're just making fun of his confession that he can't prove ownership of bitcoin in the wallet, it's a lie that might be too easy to detect. Either way I can't trust anyone claiming to be Satoshi while he can't move 0.001 bitcoin from Satoshi's wallet. But sadly, the CW is just embarrassing itself for this popularity.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Abiky on January 26, 2022, 03:24:50 PM
This is exactly right, this is also exactly why Craig Wright claims to be Satoshi. He sure as shit isn’t Satoshi but he claims to be because it makes him hugely popular.  He is given a lot of money and support by his foolish followers which had made him rich. So there’s a huge advantage to lying about it all, of course.

It's all about fame and fortune. Craig knows that the Bitcoin community adores Satoshi, so he tried to impersonate him to obtain all of the credit. Good thing that the community was smart by requiring Craig to sign the original keys belonging to Satoshi. Without being able to provide proof of his claims, most people won't be able to take him seriously. Yet, there are a small number of people from the Bitcoin SV camp following him every step of the way. I think the real Satoshi is either dead or hiding in the shadows. It doesn't really matter who he is as long as Bitcoin remains decentralized and censorship-resistant.

The community is what keeps the cryptocurrency project stronger, not a single person. If it were about a single person, then how would the revolution be decentralized? Instead of trying to find out who the real Satoshi is, we should continue to improve Bitcoin for the better. There are many ways we can contribute, not limited to just coding. As long as there are volunteers willing to make Bitcoin the best cryptocurrency in the world, nothing else matters. With how far Bitcoin reached without Satoshi, I'd say there's a high probability it'll last for generations. Just my thoughts ;D


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: goldkingcoiner on January 26, 2022, 07:03:31 PM
There are way too many egomaniacs in this world but I do have a sneaking suspicion that Craig might be a trap to lure the real Satoshi out. Although that has not worked until now and I doubt it will work anytime sooner or later.

For all we know Satoshi might just be some government trying to overthrow the monopoly of the US and/or other countries on their fiat currencies. Or it might just be some random guy.

We might never know, but whats important is Bitcoin itself. I think thats Satoshis message.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: amihada on January 27, 2022, 01:41:27 PM
The person who recognizes himself as satoshi nakamoto is a very stupid person because no one believes that satoshi appears in public, that person just wants to seek popularity in public by using the name satoshi, in my opinion.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: savetheFORUM on January 27, 2022, 07:09:35 PM
right, they just need attention. it's a mess and I think it's bothered a lot of people. they show their own evidence and their own reasons, after all I don't really care about that and I'm more focused on my own target in making a profit here. why people claim to be Satoshi of course because there is a reason in it and if many people are deceived then it can harm many people. so stay careful and don't trust people like that. I only avoid things that can be detrimental.
They need attention and they do not mind it even the attention that they will receive is negative because who would believe with it?

It has been a long time since satoshi logged on on this forum and after that, no traced was found and then lately we are going to hear a news like this that some guys go out and claimed they are satoshi without even providing a concrete proof that they are really the real Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi nakaFOMO maybe but Satoshi Nakamoto? Nah, I do not think satoshi will shop up now even if he still alive because its pretty late now. So many years have passed but his creation of bitcoin is still fine and goes on its plan pretty well.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Slow death on January 27, 2022, 07:53:48 PM
these guys who are impersonating satoshi want fame, they want attention, if we look at the deeper issue we will see that the only guy who insisted on continuing with this theater that he is satoshi and craig wright the other faketoshis have already given up, but craig wright loves attention

right, they just need attention. it's a mess and I think it's bothered a lot of people. they show their own evidence and their own reasons, after all I don't really care about that and I'm more focused on my own target in making a profit here. why people claim to be Satoshi of course because there is a reason in it and if many people are deceived then it can harm many people. so stay careful and don't trust people like that. I only avoid things that can be detrimental.
They need attention and they do not mind it even the attention that they will receive is negative because who would believe with it?

It has been a long time since satoshi logged on on this forum and after that, no traced was found and then lately we are going to hear a news like this that some guys go out and claimed they are satoshi without even providing a concrete proof that they are really the real Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi nakaFOMO maybe but Satoshi Nakamoto? Nah, I do not think satoshi will shop up now even if he still alive because its pretty late now. So many years have passed but his creation of bitcoin is still fine and goes on its plan pretty well.

in my opinion satoshi must be dead


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Mr.sprin on January 28, 2022, 08:14:40 AM
I wonder that people nowadays dare to claim to be satoshi, don't they know that if satoshi doesn't want to be popular just because he wants to feel himself, then nowadays there are people who want to be public as satoshi maybe that person is crazy.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: supto005 on January 28, 2022, 02:03:21 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?

It's so easy just go into google you can find a lot of information about this topic. But as I think we can't ever know the real person of the bitcoin inventor because the government doesn't allow the man who made coins.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: lalabotax on January 28, 2022, 02:19:23 PM
nowadays there are people who want to be public as satoshi maybe that person is crazy.
They are not crazy, they are smart. Those people who claimed themselves as Satoshi, must have a purpose behind that annoying act. At least, they want to get attention from the public, as OP has explained above. What do they get from having people's attention? Their popularity is increasing because people are trying to search for their identities. Although many people dislike them, they are getting popular since people are discussing/talking about them anywhere.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: AakZaki on January 30, 2022, 04:30:32 AM
~snip~

in my opinion satoshi must be dead

Maybe it can happen, but I don't know the truth either. If he died maybe he was an extraordinary person, he had a broad view of the future.
For scammers how stupid they are, they don't think the effects will have. I'm not curious about Satoshi myself, but I feel lucky to know and have the currency technology he created. Even today I will still support satoshi to remain anonymous. There were many negative effects that could possibly be caused if he could properly prove his recognition as Satoshi.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Prosector on February 01, 2022, 06:17:43 AM
It’s funny to see how people are trying to fool others. If Satoshi wanted to reveal his identity, he would have done that in the beginning. Because he is anonymous is one of the reasons why people are so interested in bitcoin.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Mr.sprin on February 01, 2022, 07:29:50 AM
nowadays there are people who want to be public as satoshi maybe that person is crazy.
They are not crazy, they are smart. Those people who claimed themselves as Satoshi, must have a purpose behind that annoying act. At least, they want to get attention from the public, as OP has explained above. What do they get from having people's attention? Their popularity is increasing because people are trying to search for their identities. Although many people dislike them, they are getting popular since people are discussing/talking about them anywhere.

It can't be said that smart people who claim to be satoshi they deserve to be called stupid humans, admitting satoshi with the aim of seeking popularity so many people talk about him is a very stupid person, is there anyone who admits satoshi is currently successful, can you name it?


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: KaliLinux on February 03, 2022, 08:29:08 AM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?

I don't get the idea for their claim ??? is there a present or position for how becomes Satoshi? what will that add to their profile in real terms? sorry for all my dumb questions but I don't understand why they will want to claim who they are not and for what purpose? If satoshi wanted to be known back then, I don't think (s)he would have stayed anonymous in the first place. All of them are fake Satoshis.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: noormcs5 on February 03, 2022, 09:04:23 AM
I wonder that people nowadays dare to claim to be satoshi, don't they know that if satoshi doesn't want to be popular just because he wants to feel himself, then nowadays there are people who want to be public as satoshi maybe that person is crazy.

The people who are claiming themselves as Satoshi are insane as no one can take the place for Satoshi. If these people were so capable why don't they made such a Inventions.
Just put on ignore on all the people who are falsely claiming to be Satoshi.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: bitterguy28 on February 03, 2022, 09:24:48 AM
I wonder that people nowadays dare to claim to be satoshi, don't they know that if satoshi doesn't want to be popular just because he wants to feel himself, then nowadays there are people who want to be public as satoshi maybe that person is crazy.

The people who are claiming themselves as Satoshi are insane as no one can take the place for Satoshi. If these people were so capable why don't they made such a Inventions.
Just put on ignore on all the people who are falsely claiming to be Satoshi.
All they seek is  popularity because they cannot even prove anything that will stand them being the real satoshi nakamoto , even Craig Wright has nothing concrete to name him as Satoshi Nakamoto , so if He cannot make him satoshi then who can be one?

It’s funny to see how people are trying to fool others. If Satoshi wanted to reveal his identity, he would have done that in the beginning. Because he is anonymous is one of the reasons why people are so interested in bitcoin.
exactly why would he hide Himself for long time and then suddenly comes out the open to claim His name? that is an stupid scenario to believe .


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: virasog on February 03, 2022, 02:38:08 PM
I wonder that people nowadays dare to claim to be satoshi, don't they know that if satoshi doesn't want to be popular just because he wants to feel himself, then nowadays there are people who want to be public as satoshi maybe that person is crazy.
those who say he is satoshi, he must have certain goals, the first reason is because they want to find wealth, they also want to seek popularity, so they are increasingly sought after in all media, so the coffers of money will go to them, sometimes they also receive payments On the other hand, a real satoshi will definitely never want to appear in public, because if he appears in public, the government will definitely interrogate him, people who claim to be satoshi are just power freaks, crazy about popularity and want to be famous.

If anyone claims himself Satoshi, he will only become popular in society but in a negative manner. Everyone will know that he or she is falsely claiming to be satoshi. However, he might gain some fame for a few days as all the crypto sites and media will publish his / her news as someone who is claiming himself satoshi.
I don't think he can gain any money from this action and why would anyone be willing to give money to the richest person, satoshi  ???


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: maju69 on February 03, 2022, 02:43:03 PM
I wonder that people nowadays dare to claim to be satoshi, don't they know that if satoshi doesn't want to be popular just because he wants to feel himself, then nowadays there are people who want to be public as satoshi maybe that person is crazy.
There must be a certain goal when they do it all, for example, popularity and even financial gain. We never know what they want by claiming to be Satoshi, but I'm sure there must be something they want to get.
Maybe we bitcoin users who know if Satoshi won't reveal his identity to the public, will definitely think he's crazy. But not for those who actually want our attention.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Congyang on February 03, 2022, 04:42:47 PM
I wonder that people nowadays dare to claim to be satoshi, don't they know that if satoshi doesn't want to be popular just because he wants to feel himself, then nowadays there are people who want to be public as satoshi maybe that person is crazy.
there is a special interest in their favor if the claim about satoshi is acknowledged by others.
For example, Craig is very vocal in claiming he is a satoshi. did you see the difference before and after he claimed that he was a satoshi? he has benefited quite a lot from anything, especially financially.
the fact is that even though there are many who are against it, there are still many naive people who believe in it and are willing to spend money to be able to just ask or argue with him


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: fullhdpixel on February 03, 2022, 09:10:19 PM
I wonder that people nowadays dare to claim to be satoshi, don't they know that if satoshi doesn't want to be popular just because he wants to feel himself, then nowadays there are people who want to be public as satoshi maybe that person is crazy.
The people who are claiming themselves as Satoshi are insane as no one can take the place for Satoshi. If these people were so capable why don't they made such a Inventions.
Just put on ignore on all the people who are falsely claiming to be Satoshi.
But, we did not know yet if who is satoshi. If only we know who is the real satoshi we can easily make a conclusion that any other people that claims to be satoshi are all fake and up until now there are people who hopes satoshi will came out so they do not ignore this kind of news and to create what? Invention?

But, they claim their self as satoshi so they assume that they invented bitcoin. They think this is easy than creating a new project. How well they know if satoshi dont want want to be popular when the real satoshi is not yet found? we do not know if satoshi is dead now and if satoshi is alive, what if he dont want to hide his real face?


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Lanatsa on February 03, 2022, 09:42:11 PM
I wonder that people nowadays dare to claim to be satoshi, don't they know that if satoshi doesn't want to be popular just because he wants to feel himself, then nowadays there are people who want to be public as satoshi maybe that person is crazy.
there is a special interest in their favor if the claim about satoshi is acknowledged by others.
For example, Craig is very vocal in claiming he is a satoshi. did you see the difference before and after he claimed that he was a satoshi? he has benefited quite a lot from anything, especially financially.
the fact is that even though there are many who are against it, there are still many naive people who believe in it and are willing to spend money to be able to just ask or argue with him
Or simply trying to seek out for some attention and do make out benefit from it which it isn't surprising on why we do have several people do really tend to claim out that they are satoshi.

The community does know on whats the truth or the real story and there are really some noobs who do really tend to believe out that's why the fire couldn't be easily be extinguished.

It is really just sad to think that there are still people who do really believe into those kind of fake claims but in the end they haven't able to prove it out.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Rufsilf on February 04, 2022, 06:31:22 AM
~snip~

in my opinion satoshi must be dead

Maybe it can happen, but I don't know the truth either. If he died maybe he was an extraordinary person, he had a broad view of the future.
For scammers how stupid they are, they don't think the effects will have. I'm not curious about Satoshi myself, but I feel lucky to know and have the currency technology he created. Even today I will still support satoshi to remain anonymous. There were many negative effects that could possibly be caused if he could properly prove his recognition as Satoshi.

Yes, it's possible but it's also hard to assume on either he/she is dead or alive until now because we don't really know about his/her identity, but for sure, wherever he/she is now, I'm pretty sure that he/she's happy about his bitcoin invention that have helped and touched millions of people around the world and still growing until this very day.

IMO, let the man/woman live in peace if indeed he/she's alive. He/she have decided to hide his/her identity for some purpose.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: rby on February 04, 2022, 09:32:21 AM
~snip~

in my opinion satoshi must be dead

Maybe it can happen, but I don't know the truth either. If he died maybe he was an extraordinary person, he had a broad view of the future.
For scammers how stupid they are, they don't think the effects will have. I'm not curious about Satoshi myself, but I feel lucky to know and have the currency technology he created. Even today I will still support satoshi to remain anonymous. There were many negative effects that could possibly be caused if he could properly prove his recognition as Satoshi.

Yes, it's possible but it's also hard to assume on either he/she is dead or alive until now because we don't really know about his/her identity, but for sure, wherever he/she is now, I'm pretty sure that he/she's happy about his bitcoin invention that have helped and touched millions of people around the world and still growing until this very day.

IMO, let the man/woman live in peace if indeed he/she's alive. He/she have decided to hide his/her identity for some purpose.
Does it mean that people don't know where Satoshi come from? In my place if people know your full name and including your surname, they can trace you to your family linage. Because there is some names that only one country answer and even inside the country only one state or one tribe answer. If this is existing in Satoshi country they will be able to know his place of origin. But if the name is acronym or combination of different people name, it will be difficult to know the real name. I have heard satoshi for a long time but I don't have the interest to know him. He has done good, I am OK with that.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: poldanmig on February 04, 2022, 10:01:20 AM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?
Many people claim to be satoshi nakamoto, but none of them can prove that he is the real satoshi, even I've heard that Craig Wright an Australian guy also claims to be Satoshi and even he has provided evidence of a cryptographic key which is a transaction bitcoin was first carried out by satoshi in 2009, but it seems that it continues to be a debate as to why he disclosed his identity to the public, I think satoshi is another name for an anonymous person who deliberately does not want his identity to be known to the public.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2021/11/20/how-two-men-one-dead-one-alive-came-to-claim-they-invented-bitcoin/amp/


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Bloodseekers on February 04, 2022, 10:41:39 AM
By looking at the current popularity of bitcoin, everyone wants to be known as the creator. I judge every one has the right to admit to being a satoshi but without solid evidence it's all bullshit.
I think the real satoshi will not introduce himself in public, jnj will make him lose his privacy.

and this will be a puzzle forever who the real satoshi is, and this is the main attraction for Btc lovers.
And in the future I'm sure there will be more people who claim to be satoshi, I think people just want to be famous.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Congyang on February 05, 2022, 12:41:23 PM
there is a special interest in their favor if the claim about satoshi is acknowledged by others.
For example, Craig is very vocal in claiming he is a satoshi. did you see the difference before and after he claimed that he was a satoshi? he has benefited quite a lot from anything, especially financially.
the fact is that even though there are many who are against it, there are still many naive people who believe in it and are willing to spend money to be able to just ask or argue with him
Or simply trying to seek out for some attention and do make out benefit from it which it isn't surprising on why we do have several people do really tend to claim out that they are satoshi.

The community does know on whats the truth or the real story and there are really some noobs who do really tend to believe out that's why the fire couldn't be easily be extinguished.

It is really just sad to think that there are still people who do really believe into those kind of fake claims but in the end they haven't able to prove it out.
and even then is one reason because indeed by making claims like this their change to be known and appear to the public is higher because this is indeed quite sensitive among crypto lovers, especially bitcoin.
what I don't really understand is why people still believe in things like this so they are willing to spend a lot of money to believe that this is the right thing even though it is clear that this is a mistake because indeed this is just an unfounded claim and they are claiming it. could not provide clear evidence there.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Luqman on February 05, 2022, 08:13:43 PM
By looking at the current popularity of bitcoin, everyone wants to be known as the creator. I judge every one has the right to admit to being a satoshi but without solid evidence it's all bullshit. I think the real satoshi will not introduce himself in public, jnj will make him lose his privacy.
Indeed. People who claim themselves as Satoshi, probably want to take others' attention since Bitcoin is getting popular nowadays. But we know that Satoshi won't reveal his identity forever because he knows it will harm Bitcoin existence and his life. Sure, those Faketoshi have no valid proof or evidence, they only speak bullshit and everyone knows it. Actually, it is very pity that many Faketoshi wants to be Satoshi, they don't know it is even embarrassing themselves and may risk their life. 


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Ryker1 on February 05, 2022, 10:31:42 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?
Well we can't blame them but never trust them as long as no one can able to sign message the bitcoin address that linked to satoshi.
People who are claiming themselves as Satoshi with the absence of clear and credible evidence are totally a fraud. Since Satoshi is still mysterious and many of us still wondering who Satoshi Nakamoto really is, many individuals took advantage of it and claim themselves as Satoshi, perhaps wanting to be recognized. I cant name them all because there are too many of them.
However, since such occurrences are unavoidable, we must be more astute than the existing con artists.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: nurilham on February 05, 2022, 11:52:24 PM
That's right, I saw a lot of people claiming to be satoshi and surprisingly some people also believed in it. they use the Satoshi name to deceive people and make a profit. Actually, this has happened several times and I'm not really surprised by that where people are so sure that they claim to be Satoshi. but i also believe that there are a lot of smart people here which they won't believe easily with that. so we just have to be smart in dealing with all modes of scams in the crypto world so that we don't get big losses.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Xinarae* on February 06, 2022, 04:43:45 AM
No one knows the true story of satoshi although it is clear so far in the real case the fog cloud has spread. What satoshi nakamoto did and why he was at the top of the discussion was understood but the main reason why satoshi nakamoto is in conflict with his real identity is that satoshi nakamoto's real identity depends on his expertise in cryptography and computer science. So far an estimated 17 people have claimed to be satoshi nakamoto all of whom are citizens of countries other than japan.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: molsewid on February 06, 2022, 06:52:41 PM
No one knows the true story of satoshi although it is clear so far in the real case the fog cloud has spread. What satoshi nakamoto did and why he was at the top of the discussion was understood but the main reason why satoshi nakamoto is in conflict with his real identity is that satoshi nakamoto's real identity depends on his expertise in cryptography and computer science. So far an estimated 17 people have claimed to be satoshi nakamoto all of whom are citizens of countries other than japan.

That's a lot of people try to introduce themselves to the public self proclaiming that they are Satoshi and none of them I bet have had provide the proper evidence that will lead people to identify them as Satoshi. Even if we really wanted to see in picture who is Satoshi Nakamoto is, even if we really wanted to even just talk with him here in forum but then I think this kind of opportunity is kinda rare now,and even if I am Satoshi, I would also prefer to live a private and peaceful life.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: macson on February 06, 2022, 07:07:24 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?
there are many people out there who claim to be satoshi for various reasons, one of their reasons is for the real satoshi come to....but satoshi is not that stupid, he/she has hidden his/her identity until now and that makes people's trust in bitcoin lasts and even tends to increase.  if satoshi shows himself openly then we should not believe in Bitcoin.  real satoshi won't show up and that's for sure.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: rby on February 17, 2022, 03:45:34 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?
there are many people out there who claim to be satoshi for various reasons, one of their reasons is for the real satoshi come to....but satoshi is not that stupid, he/she has hidden his/her identity until now and that makes people's trust in bitcoin lasts and even tends to increase.  if satoshi shows himself openly then we should not believe in Bitcoin.  real satoshi won't show up and that's for sure.
People cannot be claiming to be Satoshi to make sure the real Satoshi will be out. They are claiming to be Satoshi for their personal gains so that they can see how to hijack bitcoin or have many followers to have impact in the bitcoin network. Satoshi will never appear again for the safety of bitcoin


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: goldkingcoiner on February 17, 2022, 03:51:43 PM
I do sometimes wonder, when watching these egomaniacs make schizophrenic statements like "I am Satoshi" without providing any concrete proof, whether or not the real Satoshi, someday, if he/she chooses to appear in public and make himself known as Satoshi, would ever consider going against those faketoshis legally, for using his name. I imagine Satoshi could legally embarress and torture these faketoshi idiots.

It just really goes to show how fake and greedy our current civilisation really is... ::)


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Natalim on February 17, 2022, 03:53:49 PM
I do sometimes wonder, when watching these egomaniacs make schizophrenic statements like "I am Satoshi" without providing any concrete proof, whether or not the real Satoshi, someday, if he/she chooses to appear in public and make himself known as Satoshi, would ever consider going against those faketoshis legally, for using his name. I imagine Satoshi could legally embarress and torture these faketoshi idiots.

It just really goes to show how fake and greedy our current civilisation really is... ::)

The real satoshi could probably be watching us, and he understands that there are people who will claim to be him because of the benefits they will get. However, these scammers did not understand how strong the community is, we won't easily believe in anyone claiming to be him because we already appreciate the fact that satoshis is anonymous in the first place.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: FakeAss on February 18, 2022, 12:27:21 AM
Any idea what the satoshi person/group is referring to in the bold text below?

"Unfortunately, the solution is not to just change a constant in the code or to allow powerful participants to force out others."



Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Abiky on February 19, 2022, 12:52:05 AM
Maybe it can happen, but I don't know the truth either. If he died maybe he was an extraordinary person, he had a broad view of the future.
For scammers how stupid they are, they don't think the effects will have. I'm not curious about Satoshi myself, but I feel lucky to know and have the currency technology he created. Even today I will still support satoshi to remain anonymous. There were many negative effects that could possibly be caused if he could properly prove his recognition as Satoshi.

It's not about Satoshi, but rather about Bitcoin's underlying blockchain technology. People pretending to be the real Satoshi are only doing it for fame and fortune. We should focus more on improving Bitcoin than just trying to find out who Satoshi is or ever was. For what I know, we are all Satoshi as the network is entirely governed by its users. There's a reason why Satoshi wanted to distance himself from Bitcoin in the first place. That was to keep the cryptocurrency decentralized. Otherwise, he would've revealed his true identity just like Ethereum creator Vitalik Buterin did. Bitcoin's been doing fine without Satoshi, so it's best if things stay the same way as they are right now for the good of the project. Just my opinion :)


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: kotajikikox on February 19, 2022, 05:20:10 AM
For what I know, we are all Satoshi as the network is entirely governed by its users.
This is so true, the point of view of the creator lies within us. People are not realizing this yet and keep looking for what's going on around them right next to them. I myself also think that everything that happens is by our choice and it gives us different opinions.
How could people realize that when those claimant wants only one thing? and that is to become popular in crypto currency world, they are using the missing Personality of Satoshi as a way to make their name inside this community in which the truth? makes them as insult because of the desperation they are acting.
Satoshi Nakamoto will remain  anonymous  forever and yeah it is correct that all of us represent being Satoshi in our own small ways.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Oasisman on February 19, 2022, 08:08:44 AM
For what I know, we are all Satoshi as the network is entirely governed by its users.
This is so true, the point of view of the creator lies within us. People are not realizing this yet and keep looking for what's going on around them right next to them. I myself also think that everything that happens is by our choice and it gives us different opinions.
How could people realize that when those claimant wants only one thing? and that is to become popular in crypto currency world, they are using the missing Personality of Satoshi as a way to make their name inside this community in which the truth? makes them as insult because of the desperation they are acting.
Satoshi Nakamoto will remain  anonymous  forever and yeah it is correct that all of us represent being Satoshi in our own small ways.

Not only the popularity is what they're chasing, self proclaimed Satoshi's are eager to steal his name for them to manipulate the market, which the rich people are actually doing today.
Once they make the people believe that one of these self proclaimed is Satoshi, they can easily manipulate the market sentiments by releasing statements that could steer the price around.
Claiming satoshi is just another rich man's way to make himself become even richer.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Webetcoins on February 20, 2022, 09:01:05 AM
There has been quite a lot of people who has claimed to be satoshi nakamoto. But what you also have to know is that while some of them have come out to claiming it themselves that they are Satoshi Nakamoto, others didn’t really come out to claim that they are the one, rather it was the public that suspected them of being the one.

One of them which you might know by now is Craig Wright, who has been disturbing netizens with his claims of being the real satoshi nakamoto over the years now. But a lot of folks already knows that he is fake (Faketoshi as they call him) and not the real person that created Bitcoin. he’s just claiming what is not his, which hasn’t been a success, as he keeps failing.

Next person that people has said to be satoshi nakamoto is Nick szabo. And another one is  Dorian SatoshiNakamoto; He never claimed to be SatoshiNakamoto, rather people has suspected him and said he’s the one due to the fact that he bears the same name as the creator of Bitcoin. And the last person I’m going to mention is Hal Finney.

You should look them up on Google:
Craig Wright
Nick Szabo
Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto
Hal Finney


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Lanatsa on February 21, 2022, 11:52:05 PM
I think this is an attempt to scam people of their funds. They aim to be Satoshi so they can create their own coin or token for people to buy and run away with the fund. I have seen recently about the shilling of a token called Satoshi. They are claiming that Satoshi owns the token which is a deceipt to scam investors of their hard earn money.
Majority of them are known or popular person which it is not possible to scheme up some scamming but trying out to get some fame instead and somewhat
having that manipulative kind of motive behind those claims but people aren't really that dumb on believing into something like this.As long they don't post
up those solid proofs then these are just simply considered as faketoshis which I wont be surprised if there's one would really be claiming again for this year.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: cheezcarls on February 22, 2022, 01:08:27 AM
Haha now this reminds me….. ;D

https://i.ibb.co/C0tLTxB/3-BDD41-B5-6008-4458-BA68-2-C0-F9-B915-FB0.jpg
Credits to the owner of this image. I can’t seem to remember the source because it was like 2-3 years ago.

Can’t believe that they are not shy of claiming themselves as Satoshi freakin’ Nakamoto. I think they’re doing that for the purpose of being instant popular or celebrity, following or subscribing to their social media channels, etc. That’s just my opinion of course.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: NoorulHuda on February 27, 2022, 06:27:40 AM
No one know that... What the Satoshi is.? Is he/she/it man women or a ghost.
So if there are the people who claiming that they are Satoshi Nakamoto so they are fraud be aware from them.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: dataispower on February 27, 2022, 12:24:53 PM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?
there are many people out there who claim to be satoshi for various reasons, one of their reasons is for the real satoshi come to....but satoshi is not that stupid, he/she has hidden his/her identity until now and that makes people's trust in bitcoin lasts and even tends to increase.  if satoshi shows himself openly then we should not believe in Bitcoin.  real satoshi won't show up and that's for sure.
People cannot be claiming to be Satoshi to make sure the real Satoshi will be out. They are claiming to be Satoshi for their personal gains so that they can see how to hijack bitcoin or have many followers to have impact in the bitcoin network. Satoshi will never appear again for the safety of bitcoin
From your understanding is good, kudos for that. But from things am seeing here iit see people that is claiming to be Satoshi with two ways, [1] they are trying to use Satoshi name get rewards and [2] maybe their major aim can be they want to know Satoshi. But since it seems that is not one person that is claiming to be Satoshi and this people have different plans of claiming the name.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Mahiyammahi on February 27, 2022, 02:04:50 PM
I would like to learn about themselves, would you please like shared that articale or that articale here?

Although there's a lot came who's claim to be Satoshi but won't able to prove himself real one.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: acener on March 06, 2022, 08:10:55 AM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?
I don't get why people wants to claim that they are the creator when they wouldn't get anything from it other than the attention of the crypto world.
If they really wants to prove that they are the legitimate creator I think the best that they could do is access the old wallet that Satoshi used before.
And for me I don't really think that the real Satoshi would go out and announce it after successfully hiding for so long ,
If it was for fame then Satoshi wouldn't really hide on the first place so why would he/she even bother to come out now?


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: FrozenBit on March 06, 2022, 08:38:02 AM
I don't know what people think, but I've never been curious enough to see how mysterious it is. We all consider it to be a group and it is absurd for anyone to stand up and claim to be at the top of everything, imo.
And as far as I know, it's all of us.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: naim027 on March 06, 2022, 11:22:42 AM
I don't get why people want to claim that they are the creator when they wouldn't get anything from it other than the attention of the crypto world.

Well, people claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto because they want the advantage of the popularity of Satoshi Nakamoto. Take Craig for example, There are still a lot of people who believe that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto. At this moment, If Craig announces that he is going to create another crypto. For example, Bitcoin lite. There are a lot of people who are going to invest in that shitty project. That's how Bitcoin Cash and BSV have been created. The only thing is, they want to take advantage of the popularity of Satoshi Nakamoto. Most of their target/aim is to scam people. I am not sure if there is another thing behind claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: bitzizzix on March 06, 2022, 12:12:44 PM
Anyone claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto is just taking advantage of bitcoin's growing popularity to make it popular as well, but they can't provide accurate evidence, so ignore it.
Although there has been much speculation over the years about who Satoshi Nakomoto is, there has never been any confirmation, and the answer is that no one knows who Satoshi Nakamoto really is other than him.
It also showcases the beauty of bitcoin because of the blockchain that makes its identity undiscoverable.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: naim027 on March 06, 2022, 01:41:02 PM

Well, people claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto because they want the advantage of the popularity of Satoshi Nakamoto. Take Craig for example, There are still a lot of people who believe that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto. At this moment, Craig announces that he is going to create another crypto. For example, Bitcoin lite. There are a lot of people who are going to invest in that shitty project. That's how Bitcoin Cash and BSV have been created. The only thing is, they want to take advantage of the popularity of Satoshi Nakamoto. Most of their target/aim is to scam people. I am not sure if there is another thing behind claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto.

If somebody is Satoshi he can very easily prove that by moving bitcoins from the famous Satoshi Wallet. Nobody to date can do that. It's our responsibility that we must not give any attention to such Faketoshis who can't prove themselves as satoshis.
As you said BSV and bitcoin cash are created by people who are just scammers and it's us who fell victim to them just because of our negligence.

No one knows if Satoshi is still alive. But I assume he is alive and watching the drama that a lot of people claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto. Imagine you are alive and in front of you, Someone pretending to be you. I am sure you will laugh a lot 😂. Still, I don't think he will reveal his identity. If he does, his life will be under big threats because of his money and he has to maintain a lot of things for security purposes. I think he loves to be a normal average person like everyone else. I am wondering, maybe he is living a cool life in a small village or island 😍


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: riskarcher on March 06, 2022, 02:08:40 PM

Well, people claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto because they want the advantage of the popularity of Satoshi Nakamoto. Take Craig for example, There are still a lot of people who believe that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto. At this moment, Craig announces that he is going to create another crypto. For example, Bitcoin lite. There are a lot of people who are going to invest in that shitty project. That's how Bitcoin Cash and BSV have been created. The only thing is, they want to take advantage of the popularity of Satoshi Nakamoto. Most of their target/aim is to scam people. I am not sure if there is another thing behind claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto.

If somebody is Satoshi he can very easily prove that by moving bitcoins from the famous Satoshi Wallet. Nobody to date can do that. It's our responsibility that we must not give any attention to such Faketoshis who can't prove themselves as satoshis.
As you said BSV and bitcoin cash are created by people who are just scammers and it's us who fell victim to them just because of our negligence.

No one knows if Satoshi is still alive. But I assume he is alive and watching the drama that a lot of people claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto. Imagine you are alive and in front of you, Someone pretending to be you. I am sure you will laugh a lot 😂. Still, I don't think he will reveal his identity. If he does, his life will be under big threats because of his money and he has to maintain a lot of things for security purposes. I think he loves to be a normal average person like everyone else. I am wondering, maybe he is living a cool life in a small village or island 😍
Well that's so funny, So many dramas in the name of Satoshi Nakamoto, I believe people who claim to be under this name have no shame. even though the creators of Bitcoin clearly want to keep their identity secret so that Bitcoin becomes anonymous and decentralized. it would be impossible for him to publish himself. A good indication why they claim satoshi nakomoto because they want popularity but stupidly they can't prove how Bitcoin was created


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: FIFA worldcup on March 06, 2022, 02:19:11 PM
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Although there's a lot came who's claim to be Satoshi but won't able to prove himself real one.
You won't blame them because from my part i seen it like people who wants to indirectly scandal the Bitcoin if they succeed being accepted as Satoshi, some people here does not meet Satoshi but they are claiming to be him so that they will have some agreement with government to tarnish the reputation of bitcoin, so that is how am seeing the reason why people is claiming that name, from what is going on, we don't know the real Satoshi and is not possible for it to reappear again since it left the forum

People who are losers, need fame without doing anything and they think that by claiming themselves Satoshi, they can easily gain some fame. But this is not actually the case.
People hate those people, who falsely claim themselves satoshi.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Lorence.xD on March 06, 2022, 03:27:38 PM
I don't know what people think, but I've never been curious enough to see how mysterious it is. We all consider it to be a group and it is absurd for anyone to stand up and claim to be at the top of everything, imo.
And as far as I know, it's all of us.
That's just lazy thinking for you by saying that Satoshi is all of us, can you make it more cliche? I think that whoever is behind this massive project that we call the future of finances, their identity is highly detrimental to the development of bitcoin that they/he/she to remain anonymous all throughout so my take in this discussion is that we never should find the identities/identity behind Satoshi because it might be anticlimactic to the growth of bitcoin, let sleeping dogs lie as they say.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Ryu_Ar1 on March 06, 2022, 03:55:49 PM
Anyone claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto is just taking advantage of bitcoin's growing popularity to make it popular as well, but they can't provide accurate evidence, so ignore it.
Although there has been much speculation over the years about who Satoshi Nakomoto is, there has never been any confirmation, and the answer is that no one knows who Satoshi Nakamoto really is other than him.
It also showcases the beauty of bitcoin because of the blockchain that makes its identity undiscoverable.
Actually it's quite simple, He doesn't want recognition for himself and that's the reason why he doesn't want to be known until now because indeed if the only goal was not to be famous he would have easily gotten it from the very beginning of his creation of bitcoin.
For example, such as Vitalik Buterin who created and claimed that ETH was created from scratch, actually Satoshi could also claim it actually but because he didn't want it he didn't do it, so for now why is he thirsting for recognition? no it doesn't really make sense


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: erep on March 06, 2022, 04:43:48 PM
Claiming himself to be a Satoshi is an attempt to embarrass himself in public because to be a Satoshi doesn't require recognition but does an unbreakable act for anyone in cryptocurrency to do, if his abilities don't reach the Satoshi position then stop making embarrassing confessions, just be yourself because it's better.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Bitcoin SV on March 06, 2022, 05:18:38 PM
Well, people claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto because they want the advantage of the popularity of Satoshi Nakamoto. Take Craig for example, There are still a lot of people who believe that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto. At this moment, If Craig announces that he is going to create another crypto. For example, Bitcoin lite. There are a lot of people who are going to invest in that shitty project. That's how Bitcoin Cash and BSV have been created. The only thing is, they want to take advantage of the popularity of Satoshi Nakamoto. Most of their target/aim is to scam people. I am not sure if there is another thing behind claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto.
Provide any proof that Craig Wright is not Satoshi


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: stepwilli on March 07, 2022, 01:19:02 PM
There are so many people who have claimed that they are Satoshi, and there are also some of them that never claimed to be Satoshi, but due to one thing or the other, the public has suspected them to be the creator of Bitcoin.

With that said, none of them has been able to prove that they are the creator and some of them who were believed by the public to be the ones have also denied ever knowing anything that has to do with creating Bitcoin. So nobody is, and we cannot believe anyone that claims to be the one because none of them are able to prove that they are. Before we can believe any of that, the said person would have to prove it in one way or the other.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: raidarksword on March 07, 2022, 01:38:20 PM
A true satoshi nakamoto will never his or her real identity to the public and it is a great thing to do. To the people who were claiming that they are satoshi, then think again because it is clearly a fake or fraud claims. Claiming that identity only seeks fame and credit grabbers of the success of bitcoin.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: seoincorporation on March 07, 2022, 07:31:54 PM
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Provide any proof that Craig Wright is not Satoshi

Craig Wright is not Satoshi Nakamoto...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np7mIOaVIFU

Vitalik Buterin and Lex Fridman have this good explanation about why Craig is not Satoshi. Craig wasn't able to sign transactions with satoshis addy, that would be the right way to prove he was Satoshi, but he couldn't prove it.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: BitcoinMoses on March 08, 2022, 11:35:57 AM
Hello guys, nobody has claimed to be Satoshi Nakamoto, except Craig Wright.
Is Craig Wright a credible person to play the role as Satoshi Nakamoto  ? 
A movie needs Hero and Vilain. Is Craig Wright Hero or the Vilain  ?

Can Craig Wright recreate the Genesis Block Hash  ?

Extra ordinary Claim require an extra ordinary evidence and proof-of-work.
Cryptographic Proof-of-Work.

How about organizing a Satoshi Candidates Summit  ?

The Pannel can decide who is more credible than other to claim the Satoshi Throne.

I am Moses BitcoinMoses. I do not need to claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto.
Anyone can Claim to be the real Bill Gate.


 






Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: naim027 on March 08, 2022, 06:11:44 PM
Well, people claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto because they want the advantage of the popularity of Satoshi Nakamoto. Take Craig for example, There are still a lot of people who believe that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto. At this moment, If Craig announces that he is going to create another crypto. For example, Bitcoin lite. There are a lot of people who are going to invest in that shitty project. That's how Bitcoin Cash and BSV have been created. The only thing is, they want to take advantage of the popularity of Satoshi Nakamoto. Most of their target/aim is to scam people. I am not sure if there is another thing behind claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto.
Provide any proof that Craig Wright is not Satoshi

I don't give a fuck to people like you. I don't have that much time to waste on it. The earth doesn't require to prove that this is the only planet where people live. If you don't think so, You have to prove it. So, I don't think I have to prove that Fucking Craig is not Satoshi. You have to prove that he is Satoshi. In order to prove it, He has to do the following things,

  • Ask him to mail from his official email which is Satoshin@gmx.com
  • Move a Single satoshi from his mining wallet
  • Login to Bitcoinalk

If your lord Craig cannot do these steps. Don't show me your freaking face. I don't want to talk with the people like you. Scammer.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Lanatsa on March 08, 2022, 07:46:08 PM
true rich people don't claim to be rich, true good people will not claim to be good

so,,,, the real satoshi won't admit to satoshi.. anyone who claims to be a satoshi, is a swindler
No one in his right mind would proclaim himself as Satoshi knowing on the creation that he had made yet he would mainly be targeted out by government if he tends to go out and show himself publicly.

I do rather see negative things rather than on positive events to happen if someone could prove out that he's satoshi.We've seen several people who do make out those claims but none of them

do able to give out solid proofs thats why im not surprising that there would be still several people who do make out some claims later.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: henmark on March 09, 2022, 07:46:01 AM
Claiming himself to be a Satoshi is an attempt to embarrass himself in public because to be a Satoshi doesn't require recognition but does an unbreakable act for anyone in cryptocurrency to do, if his abilities don't reach the Satoshi position then stop making embarrassing confessions, just be yourself because it's better.
The worst part of it all is that he keeps making fake documents to prove that he is the one and all the time he has been caught and everybody knows now that he is forging the documents . And funniest part of it all? He still doesn’t want to admit that he is lying about being the real Satoshi Nakamoto.

I guess he has realized how far he’s gone in embarrassing himself and is now finding it very difficult to admit to admit that he’s been lying, because he now knows how damaging that would be to him and his career. Although , whether he admits it or not, he has already ruined his career and will start gradually falling from here.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: livingfree on March 09, 2022, 11:58:58 AM
There's nothing to claim, Satoshi can prove by signing a message, or moving his coins.
And that's what those claimers can't do.

A simple way to prove that they're satoshi.

But, they can't provide any signed message to prove that they're the owner of those bitcoins that satoshi has left, the real satoshi.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: worldtraveller321 on March 10, 2022, 12:47:10 PM
I do not think we will ever learn who Satoshi really is.  Too many people at this point have come out with scams claiming they are Satoshi.

To the point now if the "real" satoshi came about, then no one would believe it.


Maybe one day we will find out the true story. Maybe after the person or persons have passed on. As there is for sure a document somewhere with everyone on it.

Otherwise we have to assume there are people out there who do know who Satoshi is.

Many are not going to say who it is. As no one will believe them.

As well finding out who Satoshi is now, would have no benefit at all. It could really make a change in the market good or bad.

As well many safety concerns for those people as well who do decide to come out in public from so so many other people and organizations at this point.

So more less we won't find out anytime soon.

I am assuming it is a group collective of a bunch of people who put it all together . But one person did over see that specific group.

At this time, all the stories and conspiracy theories that are on the true identity of Satoshi have themselves a better $ value vs finding out the true answers.



Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Rockstarguy on March 10, 2022, 02:21:39 PM
There's nothing to claim, Satoshi can prove by signing a message, or moving his coins.

People will always make claims that they are satoshi just to benefits things from the public,  but their claims are just empty , nothing to show up or prove they are the real satoshi. I don't think if satoshi will make himself known to the public anytime soon . People need to get this understanding so they don't easily fall for scammers.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Luzin on March 10, 2022, 02:54:36 PM
People will always make claims that they are satoshi just to benefits things from the public,  but their claims are just empty , nothing to show up or prove they are the real satoshi. I don't think if satoshi will make himself known to the public anytime soon . People need to get this understanding so they don't easily fall for scammers.

Of course, only people who understand Crypto understand Satoshi Nakamoto. It's useless to name himself as him if there's no hard evidence. In fact I don't think Satoshi should have turned himself up, just the technology used. I don't know how bad the atmosphere would be if he really came. Maybe his safety will be compromised. I think old crypto people will understand very well and will not be easily tempted by scamers. 


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: nullama on March 10, 2022, 11:24:57 PM
I do not think we will ever learn who Satoshi really is.  Too many people at this point have come out with scams claiming they are Satoshi.

To the point now if the "real" satoshi came about, then no one would believe it.

~snip~


There's no need to believe or trust anyone. It doesn't matter if a million people say they are Satoshi. The real Satoshi has the private keys of known addresses that we all know belong to him. If Satoshi wanted to prove anything he would just sign a message with that key. Or move coins around. He has chosen not to do so. Anyone just saying anything when claiming to be Satoshi is meaningless.

And even signing a message with that private key won't be 100% certain, because someone could have stolen them for example. But at least it would give you a high confidence that the person is Satoshi, unless it's proven the keys are compromised.

Don't trust, verify.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Cling18 on March 13, 2022, 04:02:17 PM
There's nothing to claim, Satoshi can prove by signing a message, or moving his coins.
And that's what those claimers can't do.

A simple way to prove that they're satoshi.

But, they can't provide any signed message to prove that they're the owner of those bitcoins that satoshi has left, the real satoshi.

No one could provide any proof and evidence that they're the real Satoshi so no matter what they do, they couldn't support their claims. It's Satoshi's personal choice to keep his identity private so I wonder why these people are trying to pretend and steal his identity. He has chosen peace over anything else so he wouldn't show up instantly for no reason just like what fake Satoshis are doing.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: qwertyup23 on March 13, 2022, 04:35:11 PM
There's nothing to claim, Satoshi can prove by signing a message, or moving his coins.
And that's what those claimers can't do.

A simple way to prove that they're satoshi.

But, they can't provide any signed message to prove that they're the owner of those bitcoins that satoshi has left, the real satoshi.

To be honest, I do not see the point of those people who claim that they are "satoshi" or anyone whatsoever. Aren't they just endangering and compromising their safety with such declaration? Are they just purely doing this for pride and for recognition around the world without even thinking the possible outcomes in the event that people do believe that you are satoshi?

Anyway, what you guys mentioned is the most easiest way of proving that you are indeed satoshi. If you can move the BTCs stored in his wallet address and personally sign a message, then you would be able to prove that you are indeed the almighty satoshi!


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Imranbutt44 on March 13, 2022, 04:45:26 PM
There's nothing to claim, Satoshi can prove by signing a message, or moving his coins.
And that's what those claimers can't do.

A simple way to prove that they're satoshi.

But, they can't provide any signed message to prove that they're the owner of those bitcoins that satoshi has left, the real satoshi.

All those who try to falsely proof that they are satoshi, shouldn't we put them in the scammer list. Those people are scammers who speak false.
If they can falsely claim to be satoshi, they can also do many scams by giving false statements.  :(


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Luzin on March 13, 2022, 04:46:26 PM
No one could provide any proof and evidence that they're the real Satoshi so no matter what they do, they couldn't support their claims. It's Satoshi's personal choice to keep his identity private so I wonder why these people are trying to pretend and steal his identity. He has chosen peace over anything else so he wouldn't show up instantly for no reason just like what fake Satoshis are doing.

A few days ago I read Elon Musk's tweet about Satoshi.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1501449525831081987?s=20&t=6ANNlLbrSRB4IYoSWzA2xg. I still don't really understand what that's meant.

In addition, I also read the news in the local media (https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/market/20220312085053-17-322174/ini-dia-sosok-yang-digosipkan-menjadi-sang-pencipta-bitcoin) if McAfee actually also knows who Satoshi is. McAfee analyzes from the habits about writing and the language of whitepapers created. Unfortunately, there is no valid evidence regarding McAfee's statement. I still can't believe that. I think let Satoshi be an unknown person, just the technology that continues to evolve provides benefits for all of us.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: worldtraveller321 on March 14, 2022, 12:03:01 PM
FYI McAfee  passed on last year. so that is very old news


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Abiky on March 26, 2022, 01:48:16 AM
To be honest, I do not see the point of those people who claim that they are "satoshi" or anyone whatsoever. Aren't they just endangering and compromising their safety with such declaration? Are they just purely doing this for pride and for recognition around the world without even thinking the possible outcomes in the event that people do believe that you are satoshi?

Anyway, what you guys mentioned is the most easiest way of proving that you are indeed satoshi. If you can move the BTCs stored in his wallet address and personally sign a message, then you would be able to prove that you are indeed the almighty satoshi!

I think they're doing it mostly because of the fame and fortune. With a huge stash of Bitcoins from Satoshi's early Bitcoin addresses, anyone can try to impersonate him with the intent of gaining mainstream recognition. Even Craig Wright tried to make people believe he is Satoshi by "faking" his ownership of Satoshi's early Bitcoin keys. People should just move on and focus on what matters most. It's not about Satoshi but rather the community as a whole. As long as Bitcoin works as intended, nothing else matters.

So far, the project's been doing good without Satoshi thanks to its decentralized and open source design. Who knows what the future holds for Bitcoin and crypto in general? Just my thoughts ;D


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Crypto Library on March 26, 2022, 04:46:13 AM
Satoshi Nakamoto is actually alive or dead, many say he is dead. Now it is seen that many people are claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto. I visited his bitcointalk account profile and saw Last Active: December 13, 2010, 10:45:41 PM Satoshi Nakamoto (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3), Now the thing is that those who are claiming can claim themselves as satoshi by posting from this account? And even if he can do it, why not do it if he is still alive ?


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: worle1bm on March 26, 2022, 05:03:40 AM
There are many who have claimed to be Satoshi but none of them have proved themselves right owner of the funds and you know why most of them are doing this thing because they want fame only or to scam people through these schemes.They know they can't have access yo to the funds so some have gained popularity like CSW but he will soon be out of this game.We can't unfold this mystery so it's better to leave it.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: 19Nov16 on March 26, 2022, 09:39:43 AM
There are some people who have claimed themselves as satoshi nakamoto. Craig is one of them. I'm sure all of them are fraud. Just trying to get into the focus, they are nothing but attention seeker. Anyway, can someone give me a complete list of people who have claimed them as satoshi nakamoto?

There is a lot of news stating that someone claimed to be Satoshi Nakamoto, and I'm sure everything is a lie, I better believe that Mr. Satoshi is dead because there has been news that wants to track about Mr. Satoshi, let's don't waste time thinking about who Satoshi, but we deserve to thank because the idea makes everything easier.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 27, 2022, 03:03:42 AM
No one could provide any proof and evidence that they're the real Satoshi so no matter what they do, they couldn't support their claims. It's Satoshi's personal choice to keep his identity private so I wonder why these people are trying to pretend and steal his identity. He has chosen peace over anything else so he wouldn't show up instantly for no reason just like what fake Satoshis are doing.

A few days ago I read Elon Musk's tweet about Satoshi.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1501449525831081987?s=20&t=6ANNlLbrSRB4IYoSWzA2xg. I still don't really understand what that's meant.

In addition, I also read the news in the local media (https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/market/20220312085053-17-322174/ini-dia-sosok-yang-digosipkan-menjadi-sang-pencipta-bitcoin) if McAfee actually also knows who Satoshi is. McAfee analyzes from the habits about writing and the language of whitepapers created. Unfortunately, there is no valid evidence regarding McAfee's statement. I still can't believe that. I think let Satoshi be an unknown person, just the technology that continues to evolve provides benefits for all of us.

Thank you very much for sharing that tweet, well I don't know if Elon Musk knows who the inventor of BTC is, but the way he put it, and how he places it, it seems that he wants to show that Satoshi is a person who is in the world elite and If so, the one who is closest to genius is himself, although I really don't think it's him, but he places it as if to reflect or just to make another of his controversial tweets, it is not known if it is to want to enter again to BTC or Doge, do a pump!?


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: fuguebtc on March 27, 2022, 03:52:08 AM

There is a lot of news stating that someone claimed to be Satoshi Nakamoto, and I'm sure everything is a lie, I better believe that Mr. Satoshi is dead because there has been news that wants to track about Mr. Satoshi, let's don't waste time thinking about who Satoshi, but we deserve to thank because the idea makes everything easier.

We don't know he's alive or dead but he chose to stay silent so anyone claiming to be Satoshi is a liar. People who claim to be bitcoin creators just because they want people to notice, they can't access any assets left by real satoshi.

Satoshi Nakamoto is actually alive or dead, many say he is dead. Now it is seen that many people are claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto. I visited his bitcointalk account profile and saw Last Active: December 13, 2010, 10:45:41 PM Satoshi Nakamoto (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3), Now the thing is that those who are claiming can claim themselves as satoshi by posting from this account? And even if he can do it, why not do it if he is still alive ?

This is the simplest way to prove someone is Satoshi, but I think no one will do that because all of them are not real Satoshi.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: molsewid on March 27, 2022, 02:12:48 PM

There is a lot of news stating that someone claimed to be Satoshi Nakamoto, and I'm sure everything is a lie, I better believe that Mr. Satoshi is dead because there has been news that wants to track about Mr. Satoshi, let's don't waste time thinking about who Satoshi, but we deserve to thank because the idea makes everything easier.

We don't know he's alive or dead but he chose to stay silent so anyone claiming to be Satoshi is a liar. People who claim to be bitcoin creators just because they want people to notice, they can't access any assets left by real satoshi.

Satoshi Nakamoto is actually alive or dead, many say he is dead. Now it is seen that many people are claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto. I visited his bitcointalk account profile and saw Last Active: December 13, 2010, 10:45:41 PM Satoshi Nakamoto (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3), Now the thing is that those who are claiming can claim themselves as satoshi by posting from this account? And even if he can do it, why not do it if he is still alive ?

This is the simplest way to prove someone is Satoshi, but I think no one will do that because all of them are not real Satoshi.

Still, there is no any confirmation that Satoshi Nakamoto will either alive or dead by now because no one knows who really Satoshi Nakamoto is. I mean there's a lot who self-proclaimed that they are Satoshi but none of them provide a convincing proof. I still wanted to know the real Satoshi, I wanted to see his face, I wanted to hear how he talk and personally hear from him how he made bitcoin, what makes him decided to invented this digital crypto because this is so far the greatest financial revolution..


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: MinMan on March 28, 2022, 07:22:18 PM
Still, there is no any confirmation that Satoshi Nakamoto will either alive or dead by now because no one knows who really Satoshi Nakamoto is. I mean there's a lot who self-proclaimed that they are Satoshi but none of them provide a convincing proof. I still wanted to know the real Satoshi, I wanted to see his face, I wanted to hear how he talk and personally hear from him how he made bitcoin, what makes him decided to invented this digital crypto because this is so far the greatest financial revolution..
All of us wants to see if what is satoshi's real face only because we are curious because the guy haven't appeared for such a long time after he created btc but for the way he talk? you can imagine how genius people talk. Words that will come to his mouth can be pretty advanced that you won't understand most of it.

It's also obvious on why he created bitcoin. He might be an anti bank/fiat or anti centralization/government. It was a good run at the start because btc is fully anonymous and decentralized but later on it isn't anymore. I think when satoshi found this out, he will feel a little disappointed. We are still proud of him because btc is too useful and help many lives.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Rufsilf on March 28, 2022, 07:54:01 PM
Still, there is no any confirmation that Satoshi Nakamoto will either alive or dead by now because no one knows who really Satoshi Nakamoto is. I mean there's a lot who self-proclaimed that they are Satoshi but none of them provide a convincing proof. I still wanted to know the real Satoshi, I wanted to see his face, I wanted to hear how he talk and personally hear from him how he made bitcoin, what makes him decided to invented this digital crypto because this is so far the greatest financial revolution..
All of us wants to see if what is satoshi's real face only because we are curious because the guy haven't appeared for such a long time after he created btc but for the way he talk? you can imagine how genius people talk. Words that will come to his mouth can be pretty advanced that you won't understand most of it.

It's also obvious on why he created bitcoin. He might be an anti bank/fiat or anti centralization/government. It was a good run at the start because btc is fully anonymous and decentralized but later on it isn't anymore. I think when satoshi found this out, he will feel a little disappointed. We are still proud of him because btc is too useful and help many lives.

I admit that in the past, I also wanted to see what's the real face behind the name Satoshi Nakamoto or if it's a he or she but later on, I understand why SN have chose to disappear all of the sudden leaving all those bitcoin in his wallet untouched for 2 decades now.

Honestly, let's just stop thinking about that because he/she chose to be unidentified and stay anonymous about the famous cryptocurrency he created, so let's respect that. He/she already helped us big time and if he/she wanted some credits about bitcoin then I think he/she have already identified his/her name and other details.

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It was a good run at the start because btc is fully anonymous and decentralized but later on it isn't anymore. I think when satoshi found this out, he will feel a little disappointed. We are still proud of him because btc is too useful and help many lives.

If he/she is still alive until now then there's no way that he/she cannot know about what's happening.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: stomachgrowls on March 28, 2022, 08:22:47 PM
No one could provide any proof and evidence that they're the real Satoshi so no matter what they do, they couldn't support their claims. It's Satoshi's personal choice to keep his identity private so I wonder why these people are trying to pretend and steal his identity. He has chosen peace over anything else so he wouldn't show up instantly for no reason just like what fake Satoshis are doing.

A few days ago I read Elon Musk's tweet about Satoshi.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1501449525831081987?s=20&t=6ANNlLbrSRB4IYoSWzA2xg. I still don't really understand what that's meant.

In addition, I also read the news in the local media (https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/market/20220312085053-17-322174/ini-dia-sosok-yang-digosipkan-menjadi-sang-pencipta-bitcoin) if McAfee actually also knows who Satoshi is. McAfee analyzes from the habits about writing and the language of whitepapers created. Unfortunately, there is no valid evidence regarding McAfee's statement. I still can't believe that. I think let Satoshi be an unknown person, just the technology that continues to evolve provides benefits for all of us.

Thank you very much for sharing that tweet, well I don't know if Elon Musk knows who the inventor of BTC is, but the way he put it, and how he places it, it seems that he wants to show that Satoshi is a person who is in the world elite and If so, the one who is closest to genius is himself, although I really don't think it's him, but he places it as if to reflect or just to make another of his controversial tweets, it is not known if it is to want to enter again to BTC or Doge, do a pump!?

Im not really buying on what this guy do says or into his tweets on which you should really be careful whether you do believe him or not because of those past histories of manipulative acts then it cant

really be avoided that people would surely hesitate on what these people are claiming specially Elon and that Mcafee.We do have several claims on being satoshi but none of them do able to provide
solid proof in regarding into their claim which it is really hard to trust nor believe if anyone do tend to claim to be Satoshi which we do highly doubt that he would really be showing off himself
into the public considering about privacy and of course security.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 01, 2022, 01:48:51 AM
Still, there is no any confirmation that Satoshi Nakamoto will either alive or dead by now because no one knows who really Satoshi Nakamoto is. I mean there's a lot who self-proclaimed that they are Satoshi but none of them provide a convincing proof. I still wanted to know the real Satoshi, I wanted to see his face, I wanted to hear how he talk and personally hear from him how he made bitcoin, what makes him decided to invented this digital crypto because this is so far the greatest financial revolution..
I agree with you, but could it be that Satoshi was only 1 person or was it a group of people? that is a question that can make sense of everything, however there are many who proclaim themselves Satoshi, but it is not proven until they launch or write a signed message, meanwhile for me they will all be fakers, there are some who say that Satoshi was Steve Jobs, others say it may be Elon Musk, which is a lot of speculation, although I don't know to what extent Satoshi always remains anonymous, I think that gives BTC even more power.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: goldkingcoiner on April 01, 2022, 02:12:21 AM
Still, there is no any confirmation that Satoshi Nakamoto will either alive or dead by now because no one knows who really Satoshi Nakamoto is. I mean there's a lot who self-proclaimed that they are Satoshi but none of them provide a convincing proof. I still wanted to know the real Satoshi, I wanted to see his face, I wanted to hear how he talk and personally hear from him how he made bitcoin, what makes him decided to invented this digital crypto because this is so far the greatest financial revolution..
All of us wants to see if what is satoshi's real face only because we are curious because the guy haven't appeared for such a long time after he created btc but for the way he talk? you can imagine how genius people talk. Words that will come to his mouth can be pretty advanced that you won't understand most of it.

It's also obvious on why he created bitcoin. He might be an anti bank/fiat or anti centralization/government. It was a good run at the start because btc is fully anonymous and decentralized but later on it isn't anymore. I think when satoshi found this out, he will feel a little disappointed. We are still proud of him because btc is too useful and help many lives.

I would not say I want to know his identity. In fact I think most veteran coiners would say the same. To find out Satoshis identity would be a bit disappointing. The part with anonymity is a part of what makes blockchain and Bitcoin so great. Unless you tie down your wallet addresses to your name and make a link, nobody knows who is who and how much coin they have.

Anonymity is a Bitcoiners priviledge and honor!


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Agbe on April 01, 2022, 07:05:38 PM
I don't know why people like to impersonate. All because to Scam their fellow human beings. When you enter the social media, huh!!! All most all the celebraties are impersonated by someone, with that you will not know the real owner of the account. Even though,  when the real celebrat notice such impersonation they did nothing to stop the person, so the Scammers always goes free.
Satoshi Nakamoto impersonators are more than  20 in the internet.

So, what do we do to eliminate this impersonation? Some Scammers even to the extent of creating fake Bitcoin, websites and apps to defraud people, claiming to be the real person.  If they claim to be the real Satoshi, they should provide the evidence of the creation of  the Currency. Where and the name of the Pentium system, the location, the lunch date and hour, who first used the it. Etc.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: carlfebz2 on April 01, 2022, 07:44:00 PM
I don't know why people like to impersonate. All because to Scam their fellow human beings. When you enter the social media, huh!!! All most all the celebraties are impersonated by someone, with that you will not know the real owner of the account. Even though,  when the real celebrat notice such impersonation they did nothing to stop the person, so the Scammers always goes free.
Satoshi Nakamoto impersonators are more than  20 in the internet.

So, what do we do to eliminate this impersonation? Some Scammers even to the extent of creating fake Bitcoin, websites and apps to defraud people, claiming to be the real person.  If they claim to be the real Satoshi, they should provide the evidence of the creation of  the Currency. Where and the name of the Pentium system, the location, the lunch date and hour, who first used the it. Etc.
Scamming people would be most likely the main motive on why people do really tend to claim themselves as Satoshi without even realizing that the community isnt really that dumb nor that fool to believe into

something like this which we do have lots of impersonation or wannabees for them to be Satoshi but no one had really able to prove it out.I dont know on why they havent
been rethinking that this is something that would really be effective because everything does really need sufficient proof for people to believe.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: isaac_clarke22 on April 01, 2022, 09:47:34 PM
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It's only a rumor that Satoshi is not an individual but is a group of people. What we only have is his Wikipedia images of him and that's it.
There were many faketoshis already and I wouldn't even mention one that is "quite popular" here in the forum.
Elon Musk being Satoshi is never going to be true in my opinion though.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: Marvelman on April 01, 2022, 09:55:29 PM
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It's only a rumor that Satoshi is not an individual but is a group of people. What we only have is his Wikipedia images of him and that's it.
There were many faketoshis already and I wouldn't even mention one that is "quite popular" here in the forum.
Elon Musk being Satoshi is never going to be true in my opinion though.

I don't think Wikipedia image Satoshi is valid. It's just speculation. All we have are his posts on this forum and the Bitcoin whitepaper he posted back in 2009.


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: abderrazak belkhir on April 01, 2022, 11:49:03 PM
Satoshi left a big mystery behind him and lets say that he is the most mysterious man in the world, people claiming themselves satoshi are just trying to make some hype around them but in fact they know that no one at all will believe them or even take them into considerence


Title: Re: People claiming themself satoshi
Post by: kevinovecka on April 01, 2022, 11:51:19 PM
I think it could be Paul Le Roux ;D