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I was having a problem while deposit litecoins into the bitcoins wallet on their casino. After I contacted Binance, they said it was transfered to the hot/cold wallet of the receiver wallet. So I went back to contact the admin, they told me to open a ticket. After waiting 3 days there is no any answer at all, there is also whenever I hit a big win. Their hot wallet will be always empty? What a garbage site that I am still seeing there are many people in this forum still promoting for them??? Fuck I really hate it but their slots was my favorite and that why it's keep me playing here but after this I won't ever never put a sinlge dollars in this casino again. Please everyone should be aware!!!

UPDATED: 5 days long nothing happened

UPDATED: 9 days long still nothing
UPDATED: for those who said I making up this to destroy casino
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UPDATED: 15 days long still nothing
UPDATED: 18 days and admin still doesn't care

You were allowed by Binance to send BTC LTC using the Litecoin Bitcoin network? The no response is probably because of your complicated transaction.

It seems they have liquidity issue. This is not the first time I read complaints about delayed withdrawal.

Their signature campaign was paused about two months ago because delayed payments. It was settled later on but the campaign remains on hold.

No I was sending Litecoins into their Bitcoins wallet instead of Litecoins wallet. But Binance have accepted it and processed the transactions as a replacement litecoins wallet that known as their hot/cold wallet, that's what I heard from Binance and I have contacted mod and ask on live chat too. I was not the only one who made that mistake, and most of the time the admin will recovered it because his wallet actually received the Litecoins that I was trying to deposited. But for waiting 3 days without a single answer at all, I was kind of upset of the way they treating to their customers. Like garbage

You send LTC to a BTC wallet and then you accused binance because it's their fault for processing it?  I'm not sure how serious you are with this one.

Bitvest once upon a time was one of the best casino in crypto. Not sure how things are with LightLord but I hope he could get up back again. But perhaps moving the thread to Accusation and provide details and evidence along with it.

It's your fault and it requires a manual recover. So, it doesn’t matter whether their hot wallet is empty or what. Unless someone recovers it manually through importing the private key, you are not receiving the fund. It lightlord is the one who has access to their wallet, I think you have to wait as lightlor is inactive for quite a long time now.

How long did the guys from Bitvest recover the LTC sent to a BTC address? It probably takes longer than 3 days.

They probably cannot give you a timeline when to they could fix your issue but I'm guessing it's already in the pipeline. All you could do is follow up again.

I was wondering couple months ago you created a thread and ask lightlord and zodiac to come in the Open and answer your issue

but the again you are still depositing and playing in this site? actually you also mentioned them being a Garbage

in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5359651.60

and now you are blaming the site because of your own mistake? sending litecoin to bitcoin address? aren't you here against bitvest ?

I think OP is intentionally creating an issue against Bitvest, you send a coin to the wrong wallet then blame Bitvest for not fixing it, in the first place this would not have happened if you did the right thing, then finding fault on Bitvest because you want to justify the error you have done.
You should have waited for the support to answer or follow it up from time to time because it's you're carelessness that caused this, will other casinos allow other players to deposit a coin to a wrong address, I don't think they will allow it.

I think they are two different things. On the OP's side, he is at fault for sending his money to the wrong wallet and also it smells fishy that he already had problems in the past with the casino and continues to play there. Another thing is that, assuming it is true what he says, the support is unresponsive, which is a characteristic of Lightlord, lack of proper communication.

thank you for focusing on the main point of this topic!
I was complaining about unresponsive after 3 days and until now, some idiot checked on my history and flame me? how much zodiac pay you guys to do this?

lol I know it was my mistake but what? do I have to be like a little monkey waiting for my money after 3 days long without a single message from anyone from them??? People making mistake everyday, don't say that you aren't?
About the deposit, if you don't have the thing said "hot/cold" wallet then Binance won't let me send the coins and processed it. It would be even better if they don't have that thing so my transactions will not be done and this problem won't be happened. Don't say think like I really love it to let the Zodiac Amoniac hold my money like that brother. Put you on my own shoes

Carelessness is on you, and make sure you are not careful and check more carefully the intended address. There's no one to blame unless you just started your first time making a transfer to a casino wallet but you didn't notice it all. Transactions between cross-addresses are likely to be quite difficult and end with letting go.

It's been like this, who is wrong, should the above words, not today appear, when you know about their reputation here, make the decision to stop, after you experience losses and problems, then you regret, for sure you know lately about the reputation of the BitVest gambling site, you are still eyeing slot games there.

Only a miracle can get your funds back, hope people think wisely and mature now bet on the BitVest site, certainly don't want tomorrow or the day after tomorrow to see people complaining about BitVest again, the decision is yours, at your own risk, accusations and warnings are numerous.

Thank you for all of your words. That's said everything I mean, people just really focus on my history to find my problem and forget the big problem is there Lightlord, I don't care he is sick or what but if he is still running his casino and taking people money everyday like this so he has to be responsible and support his users. I don't care before he was trusted or even big boss that never made you guys disappointed about his business but I don't live for the past. I live for the moment and now he is sucks and likely a scammer in my opinion. He didn't pay to the winners and delayed their funds for months??? who the hell can accept that? I am here today and this topic just to let people aware of this casino and I don't want anyone will fall in his scammed just like me. I just want to awere people but there are some Lightlord kid's still believe their dad will recover and fix everything back lol

I personally had problem or issue in the past because of lightlord attitude in sending payments to us campaign participants but the problem is that OP seems to be still playing while he totally annoyed in bitvest and lightlord .
though i don't wanna blame him for this but yet communicating is what these gambling site must provide if they wanted their business stays on track .

Given the fact that he is the one who's in fault here. The support already answer and acknowledge his issue which means they are handling now his concern. The problem is the lack of communication from Bitvest support to customer which is very unprofessional (assuming they really not sending reply to OP for updates. They also have a known problem inside there company so I assume that OP has a point that Bitvest performance right now is bad due to poor managing of the person who is currently in-charge.

I don't know who this Zodiac is, but this issue could have not happened if you have just done the right thing, there are exchanges that will not allow you to send a coin on the wrong chain, they have notifications if you do this if they acknowledge your issue then let them worked on it, it's true that lighlord is absent here and Bitvest is having issues with hot wallet and support and I'm sure you are aware of it but why continue playing, now you have an issue with them unfortunately because of what you did.

I say, give it time. gambling sites sometimes take time to respond to the issues. I know the lack of communication(which is what lightlord is known for these days) is extremely unprofessional and frustrating. there's really nothing we can do other than wait. I just hope your issue can be resolved.

as what you should do. there are good gambling sites out there that you can try.

Two mistakes you did here. First is that you sent ltc to bitcoin wallet and second mistake is you know very well about the fact that there is an issue in the casino but you still decide to deposit. Logically you should not do it for any reason. Now you are complaining something as an effect of your own mistakes. It is your own responsibility and you should accept it by patiently waiting for the casino to solve your issue.

Since we do not know when @lightlord or @zodiac will reply or respond to your case, you can only just wait because even if you complain here, that does not solve the problem. After all, @lightlord is still in the recovery phase while there are no other people who can respond to your problem. Hopefully, your case will be solved by BitVest or other teams on BitVest as soon as possible. I think what you did by sending them a ticket about your case is enough and let them search for that while you can still wait.

Before you deposit your money on certain casino here you should check first their activity on their thread since you will find out what's happening to them and since lightlord is inactive for sure you will struggle on your claim so what we can suggest here is to keep sending a message to their support so that they can see your issue keep bumping on their mail.

Also I think its better to post an accusation with proof to make this as a warning to the people here.

actually it was answered above mate, that he has already an issue back in September against Bitvest and already called the attention of the site owner back then yet still playing after that.supported this, it is His Carelessness in which delivered Him from this issue and now blaming the casino for this.

This account has a complete problem towards this casino but he still loves playing lol.

so they have told you to file a ticket and sometimes this may took 7 days or in some site even longer because it is your mistake and not from the site so please learn to be friendly as you are the one who is asking for favor in this part.
Am not sure if they still have Hot wallet issue because there are no problem being up recently after lightlord filled the wallet.
so you need to experience this first before waking up that they are not trustworthy for you?

Yeah best to stay away if you are not happy with their service .

But the inactiveness of lightLord is not suppose to make the transaction to be delay, wether is not present the site is already been there, i may say is from network, i need more tutorial about this, i have to ask to know in case of next time.

Have you read what OP said? OP has deposited into wrong chain. So, it requires manual access to the wallet to recover the fund. That's why it may get delayed and that's very reasonable. Why don’t you check the statement clearly before making a post?

You know, just for the weekly quota post even it's clearly stated above still posting with nonsense.

It's quite risky to do that as far as I know, it may vulnerable to hack their wallet and take note, there is a huge fee for that.
People should learn about this issue, make sure that you're using an accurate chain of which coin do you use, and usually, it's on ERC20 and BEP20.

You already know that the casino is a garbage but still you kept it as your favourite casino until today, are you serious about the problem or just messing due to some personal vengeance against bitvest?

You did the mistake in this case, so the casino can keep it or throw it away which is their personal choice. But we all knows that Lightlord is inactive here due to health issues that why there is no one to respond your tickets.

What you wrote few months back:


Why do you make another deposit while you said that you will not play in Bitvest again?
Even worst, you did a mistake by sending coin to the wrong chain. Is it really by accident or you did it consciously to build a new topic for a purpose?
I do not try to defend Bitvest, but for sure it is your own fault so you should blame others including the casino for the side effect of your mistake.

Is that worst really? I have known bitvest as a good one and have played on that casino for quite long time back in the day. I played on both bitvest and 777coin casino managed by lightlord and has no issue back then. What's wrong now. Though it seems a fault from your side, it should be fixed and send your fund back.

I hope you find your way to become better and stick to your words on all the things you have posted. You always say that you won't play and you are butthurt because you lost in the casino, knowing that you could lose everything.

For the wrong transfer of coin, that's just your fault. You can never blame anyone else but you.

It's pretty bad but definitely not deserving of "worst" status.

I think that all the problems have stemmed from management not being able to top up the hot wallet regularly enough, whether that is intentional or not.

I would definitely avoid playing with them but I highly doubt that they would do an exit scam either.

From what you said later on, this is a problem you have with Binance more than BitVest so you should be more careful who you are directing the accusation towards. If I'm understanding correctly, you also made the blunder to begin with because you sent cryptocurrency to what is effectively the wrong wallet. I only used Binance once because while the trading side is great, the fees to withdraw are ridiculously high and their website also prevented me from transferring out without first going through additional verification steps - it all seemed a bit scummy and it felt like a fluke that the support team even bothered to unfreeze the account after taking a while to get through to someone who could help.

Aside from that, this thread should be moved to the gambling discussion board. And he knows very well that right now, bitvest is in hot seat because the owner is not in good condition. So he knows the risks, and yet he's going to this casino. Sometimes I don't understand some gamblers behaving on a different manner when in fact, it is their fault in the first place.

Yep, this is something that OP should take full responsibility for by sending the funds to the wrong chain. Of course, things are going to take time to be solved - as it requires manual managing and rerouting.

Having this as the tile of the thread is thus misleading to the untrained eye as from what we can see it is not the casino at fault, and I'm sure Op will be able to get the funds back or sent to the right account if given enough time to do so (and the correct info  ;D). No reason for the casino to withhold your funds...probably not something they want to damage their reputation over

Had been operational for how many years or lets say that they are one of the most oldest gambling site existing on this market too which they wouldn't really

just messed it up on a sheer amount.Something like this could be called human error itself and due to lack of knowledge on how chain works and

trying to complain on but turns out that its your fault then you do look dumb.  :D

Well, that's what is in my mind too, I rarely see that there is a major issue against this casino and I think their reputation remains silent for how many years and I don't even see a certain thread that was created like this. Perhaps the Bitvest team will solve this issue and actually --this is not a fault of the Bitvest, it is the fault of the OP it was a mistake. If Bitvest will take time to do that manually transfer the fund and I think OP will wait until they will coke up and reply and I know lightloard would. I don't see any worst on this casino.

Knowing how long they are running but provably they will solve this issues since for sure lightlord will not ruin what they build for so many years for just those issues around. Maybe they have been out for  quite long days but maybe they have something more important to do IRL so i guess the better option for the concern is to wait for them although its really frustrating to do that but that is the best thing to do now. But if the issue occur for many weeks or months but still no solution then the next move should be executed to warn people about certain issues happening here.

it have been 5 days until now, nothing at all. No reply, no advide, nothing from mod or admin of bitvest! Who can trust them?

If you will follow the post history of OP he had already issue against bitvest and he indicated that to His post above, meaning he has a bad views about the site so he can deliver such hard words but not admitting his own mistake.
but of course i understand Him as a gambler myself , i felt frustrated also when time comes that there is hindrance in my playing and i can feel that he is in eager to play that time as he mistakenly send the funds from different wallet.

Have you read at least some of the comments?
After all, everyone clearly wrote to you that Lightlord (owner of Bitvest) has health problems and has been inactive for a long time.
You made a mistake yourself, so don't blame anyone else, just ask for a refund and wait patiently for a response.

I have waited 5 days long? is that not enough to just make a comments update to let everyone know? I wish one day soon you will be in the situation just like me then you can get the felling! Don't being a DICK

I see that you are promoting for a scammed casino and also has 5 negative on trust. That's just enough to tell who you are, I was wasted my time by replying to you! .........

But will you accept your share of the blame?

I wouldn't bet at Bitvest.io even if they had better poker rooms than Pokerstars.

You already knew how they work in that site before you mistakenly deposited. Now, no matter how much you bump the thread they are not going to answer you any sooner.

Nobody is obligated to correct your mistake. You have received information that Bitvest has had delays related to payments, for example for its signature campaign, for months already. 5 days is really not a long time and if you don't want to lose your health by being unnecessarily nervous then I recommend that you prepare to be patient for a much longer period.

The campaign that bitvest has was postponed and have no idea when it will be back. They've been waiting for so long and they're no longer paid to promote them. OP's situation is also the same with the others that have been stucked with their hot wallet and cannot process their withdrawals.

The problem really is on the management which was one of the best before but now is hanging on and we have no idea until when they'll be back to their best and normal. I'm sorry OP but no one here can help you on this matter but only the owner which we have no clue when he's going to be back.

You need to put on your shoes cause I have always know that lightlord is never coming back to the forum again. so just forget about the problem you had with him and let's focus on what is ongroud now. Although the casino was doing we before now but suddenly, things changes and here we are trying to have a feel of the complains from other gamblers. Maybe op should just wait and I'm sure his complain will be resolved.

The hot wallet is already a big issue way back, I'm sure you are aware of this, regarding the transferring of Litecoin into the Bitcoin address you should be aware that your coins will be lost if it's a different chain, there is no mention on your post that the support will recover your coins so you don't need to blame the casino if there is no answer yet, the issue is on you, just because they are not fixing your issue you're angry with the casino, if a casino has an issue it's play at your own risk.

There's nothing you can do since there is the real owner of the casino because the owner was for sure under control of the wallet has on that casino.
Just extend your patient, recovering a fund from a hot wallet is not just easy, even though if I'm the owner of that casino, I won't even trust my staff just to do that on my behalf.

Have you already sent PM to LightLord?

well we cannot really tell because he is already having issue in the past but continues to support the site by playing and constantly depositing .
if there is someone to blame it is Him and not the site though what he is asking is for the owner of site to be obligated giving His point on his problem when the truth is it is too much to ask.
even how pushing he wanted here yet this will not be lightlord obligation to address his problem so lets things come if what is necessary towards this case because this is exchange issue and not the gambling site at all .

Although he is the one to be blame for his own action made by continue depositing money on that casino still Lightlord need to address the issues coming to them since its not good to let those issues not been solve and maybe the player is just hook up by the casino since he like the atmosphere and he trust the owner to solve this since we know how long this gambling site operates. But anyways hope both parties will be alright and if there's existing issue all of it will be solve.

They are not the worst casino, there are other casinos that are worse than Bitvest, Bitvest used to be a good casino until Lightlord got a health concern, but they are doing great for the last 5 years or more, your issue is your own doing not Bitvest if you did not send Litecoin to a Bitcoin, I doubt if you're going to post here, you continue until you run a problem even though we are all aware of Bitvest issues.

I'll try to be neutral here.
OP, sending coins to the wrong chain is your fault (not blaming you or anything as we all can make mistakes) and it has nothing to do with the hot/cold wallets set up as you suggested. Still, this doesn't give the casino the right to keep your coins hostage and they should help you recover them, if possible.

However, you should know that recovering coins sent to the wrong chain isn't as easy as some might think and it may has some security implications (exposing private keys).
Also, most services will simply refuse to help in such cases and some of them require paying a fee and even then, the process may take up to few weeks.
Anyway, I hope your case will be resolved asap.

Yeah, I totally agree with you. Both parties have some kind of faults and roles that must be played in order to resolve this kind of issue. It will be good if both parties would acknowledge such, and more so to agree to work hand in hand in solving the case. Let’s just hope for the best that this could be solved right away.

The OP's mistake is very clear which is sending LTC to bitvest Bitcoin hot wallet and that is something that can't be fixed anymore. there are many incidents where people use the wrong network then the assets they send can never be returned.

Before you bring it further, why didn't you post the transaction id of your deposit by mistake?
You are accusing Bitvest (this is the 2nd time) but you have never provided any evidence.
It is important thing to provide or to be missed, or others may think that you create a story only to make Bitvest looks worst.

Let op accuse bitvest or binance whatever op blame. It won't work anyway since there is no proof or evidence provided unless op will provide. Lightlord is not active lately and many are asking if lightlord is okay or not. Aftet many weeks passed when the campaign participants didn't received payments then lightlord got online later and update everything and sharing some news. Op's situation will still remain the same because of that.

This is why it is important to keep yourself updated about the state of a casino at all times, it seems you played there and you were happy with how things were running at the site for a time as you claim their slots were your favorite.

But as of late there have been some internal issues with the management of the website which lead to delays on the payments to their customers and the people that promoted the website on their signature, so it is a good idea to stay away from the casino for the time being and see how things evolve from now on.

Not to make out some direct conclusions since we know on whats the reputation of Bitvest/777coin on this forum which had been a long time running
gambling site and there were no much issues back in the past and only now that they do have that major problem when it comes to delayed
funds.

There were no words yet as of this moment in regards the issue which makes it more odd and cant really blame out on why
people do make out some presumptions already.

Unfortunately you’re on the wrong side here mate, you cannot blame the site and the support will also tell the same thing to you. I understand the feeling of committing such mistake and lose the money, I guess you have to move on now and learn from that mistake, it can’t be recover anymore.

No one is promoting Bitvest right now so I don't see how it's a problem, Bitvest has gone cold for about 2 months already so I don't think it's really the best for you to play there and @lightlord isn't active at all. I don't condone what Bitvest does to it's customers and their promoters but give them some slack at the least and if possible state your case and even provide evidence of a wrongdoing done by the site and hopefully you can get some compensation.

^ I don't know either if their participants on a signature campaign has paid on the last round of their campaign, many of them have been left on the campaign because they don't have payment. I don't believe Bitvest can do this, they're here for how many years and the owner also knows how the forum will work, and probably he will come back soon once everything is okay. For the OP case, it should extend his patient quietly and contact lightlord about this politely. Probably one day he will come back it here.

They've been paid, I am one of their participants and I don't think that everyone left the campaign, there was a statement by @CryptopreneurBrainboss that says that we can join other signature campaign and still retain our position if it ever goes live again. I agree that patience should be practiced in this case, we waited for almost 2 months worth of payment so how is 3 days, not to invalidate but they will eventually help you.

Lightlyord have not been active on this forum lately and a lot of issues are facing Bidvest, so many players have complained about the same issues of low liquidity and the site to me has become a no go area till further notice from the owner.

I am confused why would you try to deposit LTC to their BTC wallet and blame BitVest? If you are a gambler and uses crypto I think you know that transferring other coins to Bitcoin wallet or vice versa will result of a lose coin so I think it is not the fault of either Binance and BitVest it is actually your fault.

ya.ya.yo!

If you stopped to read a little further than the OP, instead of writing something quick advertising your scam site and getting paid, you would have read this:


It is the third post in the thread, the OP's first response. But, of course, what to expect from someone who advertises a known scam site to earn a quick buck?

Well, If you guys noticed or not. Lightlord (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=30541) was there and must see what is going on. He was there on December 8. This is not the first time lightlord doing this. He did the same thing before. He was here in the forum, He must saw these threads and he must check the Negative trust on his profile. I don't know what you guys think about it. The "@Poker Player" Created a thread before about his behavior and it's end up locking the thread. Some of lightlord's agent or friends (Whatever) claims that lightlord is physically sick and he is recovering. He owns two casinos (not sure). Do you want to tell me that he doesn't want to keep someone in charge? Why? What is the reason? Well, Suppose he was sick, he just made his comeback on the forum and he must see all of these. Still, Why he is silent? If he had good intentions, it would take a few hours to fix all the issues that have been created. But he is silent. lol.

Bitvest casino is not the worst casino we have casinos with over 20 reports do your own research, they may not be good right now but they are not the worst casino get your fact first before posting, and besides based on your post, you made the wrong decision and put Bitvest support in the spotlight because they are not addressing the issue fast, people here are also blaming you for sending the coin to a wrong chain, other casinos consider this as unretrievable.

Not all the time some wrong address usage can still be rectified most especially custodial wallets, that is why binance support inform the ops that the funds were transferred to BitVest cold wallet and instructed the user to contact Bitvest.

Based from what I noticed, their service has slow support, but they will respond always, it just really takes very while compared to other casino supports. It is one of their flaws in my opinion, but that doesn't mean that they are a bad casino. It was your fault first that you sent litecoin to a bitcoin wallet. You just created an inconvenience to yourself. I'm not sure if that transaction is reversible.

If this matter is in the hands of lightlord now, be prepared to wait for 10 years before you even get a reply from him.  ;D

Seriously though, it was your own fault OP. You can't really blame the casino for not covering you fault manually. Most of the time these services don't really care about these mistakes. It was your mistake in the end, not theirs.

It's been several days since this thread was posted and no one from the BitVest team has responded to your accusations yet which isn't surprising considering Lightlord's issues etc.

Your chances of recovering your funds seem extremely slim at this point op. Don't give up completely though. Keep bumping this thread now and then for some more time.

I see that the harsh truth in what happened here is that OP really did some inconvenience for himself with that mistake. But we all know that nobody wanted for this to happen. It would be highly appreciated if the BitVest team could be actively get involved and offer help for OP, but I don’t know if they would really go that far to help. But let us hope that they would care that much to be able to assist OP.

I don't think that they should be given any slack.

What they've done is seriously wrong and is borderline defrauding their customers.

Just because they have been around for a while doesn't mean that their behaviour should be condoned. Especially when it concerns the safety of customer funds - it is certainly no laughing matter.

Indeed its not going to be easy to recover a coins sent to the wrong chain and its clearly op's fault for not double checking.

Now he is seeking help for Bitvest team, but as we know they are not really responsive and case similar to this is hard to be resolved.

Anyway, op is aware of the casino's reputation (he has an issue even before) so im wondering why he still choose Bitvest to play in.

I can't stand against Bitvest but i am not agreeing in everything towards them because as a former employee of lightlord(part of 777coin campaign) yeah i felt being neglected when our payments being delayed for more than months , but in the end yeah he is still paying with small rewards.
and regarding to being irresponsive ? yeah this one i will agree towards matter because lightlord has this attitude of ignoring everything to address instead he keeps the silence till things being settled .

Wow! This thread has four pages and it's all because the OP sent LTC to the wrong wallet address? What's there to talk about? Stuff like this happens but it's a user's mistake. Bitvest may be a lousy casino, but it's their free will if they wanna pay back the money or not. Maybe they don't want to or maybe it's not even possible. I don't understand what's there to discuss on four pages about this. I see this kind of stuff happening all the time and every time it's on the platform owner to decide if he's gonna help or not.

You should read the 4 pages together with the whole OP then post again , it is obvious that you did not follow the whole thread instead you just read the start of the thread , this topic runs long because of OP's personal problem towards bitvest and lightlord , look the first Thread he created against bitvest months ago , the timing happens when lightlord is missing in action and not paying the signature participants and also the Hot wallet is empty , then now here again as lightlord still MIA .
meaning there is something personal about this (that is what i see in the while scenario)

I admit I didn't read the whole four pages of this thread, but still... The OP transferred LTC to the wrong wallet and that's it. If I learned anything in crypto for the last few years it's that if you send crypto to the wrong wallet, in 90% of the cases your funds are lost. I understand that it's frustrating when your support ticket is not answered for a few days, but there's nothing you can do about it. We all in this forum know that Bitvest is somewhat shady (at least when it comes to their signature campaign) but in this case I think it's their free will if they wanna help their customer or not. Personally I would help my customer every time but that's just me.

And once again you did not understand what it was about .. @rodskee wrote you clearly that the thread is so long, because probably the OP just wants to give Lightlord a black PR. He probably has a grudge against something and therefore tries as hard as possible to lower the confidence in Bitvest and Lightlord.

You're whining because support is not addressing your concern other casinos will just ignore this kind of issue because it happens because of your carelessness, if you want to know the worst casino here, why not try to play on 1XBIT once they scam you, you will change your perception on Bitvest, they maybe not good right now but they are not the worst casino to play.

There's a chance that a coin transferred to the wrong address will be recovered if there's someone who controlled it and only lightlord will recover on the lost LTC that transferred into the wrong address. So, technically, that is not totally lost since there's a possibility that it will recover through the help of lightlord. IF, (take note IF) lightlord will help to recover the lost fund.

No, I don't know. Maybe that is your perception.

That's what I meant when I wrote that it's a totally free will if the casino owner will refund those funds or not. As I said before, I personally would always make it in customer's favor because it eventually pays off. But that's just me.

Don't victim blame too much, you're invalidating what he's experiencing even though there's a problem in both sides but it shouldn't be a cause for us to pin it too much on OP, I mean Bitvest should resolve this issue because they've been in this forum for a really long time so I don't see how they're exempted to not resolving their issue. To OP, you should be patient, you made a complicated transaction so you're at fault to some degree.

I think he send LTC to a Bitcoin Wallet through a 3rd party and things went haywire and now he wants to blame the receiver (BitVest) for not responding to him. They probably never received the LTC/Bitcoin in the first place, so they have nothing to respond on.

I would suggest you setup a LiteCoin wallet and then send the LTC directly from that wallet and not through a 3rd party service provider. That way you can sign a wallet as proof that you are the owner of that wallet.  ::)

That is how Losers act lol, they are looking for someone to blame from their own mistakes , they are forcing the support to response because they are desperately wanted to bring a casino down.
Bitvest never scam anyone in this forum , though they have a attitude of delay in paying yet this is not enough to make them look like in mistake here.

He is indeed a loser, it's his fault but he makes it appear that the casino is the one at fault, this is basic, you don't send a coin to another chain, you're going to lose it forever or it will have a hard time to retrieve it, you gave yourself a problem by being careless like all of us here it's not the fault of Bitvest but it's your fault.

The wiser thing to do is not to blame both the player and the casino. First we need to ensure that the story is real, till now what we read is just a story without any evidence. No evidence to show the transaction of sending LTC to BTC is really happened. We should be neutral in this case until we know the reality not just based on a story that we do not know the authenticity of the story.

If OP play on 1XBIT, they wont even return the money even if OP send the right coins on the right blockchain  ;)

I wonder why people do mistakes themselves and later blame the casinos or exchanges for their loss. I am not saying that all casino's are good but bitvest is one of the trusted and oldest casino.

Very true, without the proofs (transaction IDs / Screenshot) we should not draw the conclusion. It could be mistake on his part of sending LTC to BTC network but what if that was a typing mistake and he did send litecoins on the right blockchain or perhaps he did not send anything at all and just lost on that site and out of frustration made the post without any evidence.

right now claims without evidence is a crime, to be honest I don't believe 100% with what the OP said and it's possible that it actually happened as you said, the OP is frustrated and makes false claims.

Why do you need evidence, when the OP admits itself and claims that  sent Litecoins to the Bitcoins address by mistake. If he did, it is clear that it was his fault. Right now, he just has to ask the Bitvest administration to send his funds back to him. OP makes a problem that it waits a long time for a response from Bitvest support. In a situation where Lightlord is very inactive, I am afraid the OP will wait much longer for a response.

I think this problem is increasing daily. Lightlord wherever he may be should endeavor and rectify all these complains if he want his gambling platform to retain the long maintained reputation. For those that are not being paid for their withdrawal, my advise is that, waiting is not a bad idea and at the same time they can get in to other preferable platforms that would suit their taste.

What complaints are you talking about?
The hot wallets have been filled and both Lightlord owned casinos are in full liquidity. Anyone who wants to make a withdrawal can do so at any time. Only signature campaigns are still in pause mode.

The thing is, OP admit to make a mistake but blame the casino of his own mistake. Evidence is necessary to prove his claim, some users here are making speculation, suggestion or even supporting OP to blame Bitvest while in fact there is no evidence of the claim.

baodo159 is the worse gambler, I have ever seen who has sent litecoin to the bitcoin wallet and claiming that fund and blaming a site. You have not enough knowledge that you cant send litecoin to bitcoin wallet. If you send by mistake then that will be loss forever.

if you have never experienced it yourself then you can't express opinions like this so freely

I have often seen those who were hurt because they lost or cheated which resulted in their funds being unable to be withdrawn making false claims

maybe that's what happened to the OP because if he really knew about how the crypto blockchain works then he would definitely be aware of his stupidity what he did

Such funds can be recovered. In this case, it must be done by the person who has access to the private keys of the wallet to which Litecoins were sent. In this case, it is clear that OP made a mistake, so I just advise him to be patient and wait for a response from Bitvest support. Now it is only up to them how this case will ends.

It may take time, I hard similar problem some time back where I sent USTd to Bitcoin address and when I contacted the exchange support their informed me that it may take a long time so I almost gave up on the money but it was later sent to the right wallet.
So Bitvest will respond to you just keep calm and wait.

I also think it is only a matter of time. Situation like this is never pleasant, but frustration and accusations will not help. OP just need to be patient and I believe Bitvest and Lightlord will honestly return the mistakenly sent Litecoins to the address they were sent from.

^ Definitely right, and blaming the online casino for your mistake because the owner is not that active is not right.
I don't see that the casino you blaming and accusing is the worst casino, that is not right. So, it is now with lightlord decision if they will help you or not, there is nothing you can do is to wait and have a patient. If you can't overcome this, I will advise you my friend to stop gambling for a while, it could be lead to addiction if don't mind it.

The funds sent to a bitcoin wallet from a litecoin wallet in this case if the bitvest have the private key of the bitcoin wallet how bitvest will get the access of the litecoin? As bitcoin if anyone can log into bitcoin via private key then from the wallet it is accessible only bitcoin, not litecoin.

There are various situations like this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/6xpxg1/accidentally_sent_litecoin_to_bitcoin_address/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CoinBase/comments/jdymz2/i_accidentally_sent_litecoin_to_my_bitcoin/
https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/7lqms0/accidentally_sent_litecoin_to_my_bitcoin_wallet/
https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/7kemff/i_accidentally_sent_litecoin_to_my_bitcoin/

Recovery possible?

Thanks for these links.

It may seem strange that it is possible to recover a coin sent to another Blockchain, however if you send Litecoin to a Bitcoin Blockchain it is possible. It is often quite difficult and it happens that services or even exchanges refuse to return, but I think that in the case of Bitvest there should be no problems with it and it is just a matter of time.

This is situational because there are times which coins sent out on different address on a different blockchain cant really be retrieved out which basically means that it cant

really be possible if they would tend out to access those wallets yet getting those litecoins back wont really be that possible which means theres nothing they could do.
For sure they would make out some response and i dont have any doubts about Bitvest legitimacy but lets just always have that acceptance whenever they
do make out some u-turn.

Well, it is possible --but it will surely take a long time of process which I don't think BitVest will do.
Just one question, is this mistake was on the TOS? Something that an agreement that if you have mistaken that sending coin into a wrong blockchain address, the casino will don't have responsible of recovering the fund. I don't have an account of this casino but I think if there is someone who can confirm on this side perhaps that is the reason they did not give any reason why they did not recover the lost litecoin

Most like this isnt really included on TOS on most gambling sites as basing up on my own experience.I dont know if there would be some add ups or alterations of such rule or terms that they wont really be making any recovery on any coins that had been sent out on other wallets.This is actually not that hard but would really be requireing
sufficient time and effort on gambling sites workforce and if the said amount is big then its might be considered but if its just peanuts then i doubt they
would process it just like on exchange issues too.

just an update! 9 days long and my money still somewhere I don't know. Mod have answered to me but they said all they can do just wait from admin. Mod said they will recovered it but don't know when lol this is a joke

for those who flame on me because that was my mistake and I cannot flame on casino for that. I will give you a middle finger right to your head whenever you fall in your life. Things is happen all the time, we cannot 100% sure that we won't make any mistake. I am just a normal person and I do make mistake sometimes, but the thing that they are focus in was just my fault. Not about there is very unprofessional of admin and the way they received coins but not credit my account or recover for me that some idiots support they did it right! Bravo

https://ibb.co/8sQwR2S
https://ibb.co/jvHxhmV
 This to those who said I was making up the story to destroy their lovely scamming place

looks like all you can do about it is wait. I wouldn't be surprised if the recovery takes a month or more(base on how slow they process things). also, you can't really blame the other people for focusing on the mistake you made, all these issues would not have happened if you didn't send your LTC to a BTC wallet. that being said, I hope your issue gets resolved.

I suggest refraining from posting multiple times in a row. it is against forum rules.

Man, in most exchanges you get this or a similar message:

https://i.imgur.com/Bj7vjpB.jpg

If you have received the message that your money will be recovered, you should be happy and wait patiently, because in 90% of cases you would never get it back.

This account has an attitude of pushing things to favor Him and you can see that in the first post against Bitvest couple of months ago.

and now after calling the Gambling Site as garbage now he still plays and commit a mistake but again Blaming Bitvest.

this account cannot wait mate , He is angerly needed funds to gamble more  ;D ;D

Surely, there are many theories as to why he is so upset with the freezing of funds. Maybe he borrowed them, for example? But these kinds of ideas are very unfair. It is possible that he is just impatient and/or has a difficult nature. Certainly, such a situation would be unpleasant for all of us.

He is not alone. I know many people who always say they will not play gamble but they can't stop themselves from this addiction. Now if they won, they keep silent but as soon as they start losing, they start considering the casino a scam and start blaming it. Even if they keep shouting, no one will listen to them and they can never have their money back which they have lost in the casino.

It is known that a large number of gamblers, after losing, accuse the casino of cheating. But he didn't lose that money, he is angry about the waiting time for the return of the deposit. He's just frustrated that his money is frozen, and he can't do anything about it.

Well, if I am not wrong he deposited the funds to wrong chain so he has no reason to accuse anyone since the mistake is done by himself only. The money isn't frozen anywhere it was confirmed and deposited to the address but since he doesn't hold the private key he can't access them the only maximum thing he can do is to request the casino to refund the money if possible but shouting at them will reduce the chances of getting them back.

thank you for your comments, after everything you said. There is another thing that I have learned today. Casino provide the service to their users, their user having problem with their service so they contacted them and seeking for help. The casino here ignoring them and finally anwered the question after 8 days but still not have a solution yet. The users money have been gone for 9 days long and he is just posting a topic to complain about the unprofessional of the casino and to aware other gambler. Some casino's hero show up, said it was users faults and he should shut the fuck up and hoping they will recover his money back, but if they don't want then they can just steal it. This is exactly what you mean right? Shame, shame on all people who is stepping on casino side in this case.

This message is also available in Bitvest, it means there is so low chance for the OP to get the money recovered but it will be appreciated if Bitvest decide to help OP to recover the fund. Otherwise, OP should leave it away and accept the situation that he cant get his money because it has been warned in the deposit menu unless the warning message is added lately after this case happened.

For what I can tell that is pretty much the standard, many exchanges are not going to bother themselves trying to recover coins that were sent to the wrong blockchain, now it seems that the support of bitvest wants to cooperate, which is good news for baodo159 but there is no way to know when the coins will be returned.

It is awful I know but as long as he eventually gets his coins back then there is no damage done, however I can understand his frustration about how slow is the whole process.

@OP, Since you are Playing on Bitvest. I assume you know what is going on with Bitvest and its sister website. If you see their signature campaign, You will see that the Signature Campaign was paused. I don't know about payment, But I assume maybe the Signature participants are unpaid (Sorry if I am wrong). Their Admin Lightlord was inactive for a long time and there was no one in charge of the casino. The lightlord claims that he was extremely sick and now he recovering slowly. As soon as he returns he will fix all the issues. Lightlord was active a few days ago but we didn't see any Step from him. There was a Reputation thread Against lightlord and the community discussed it already. Since You deposited via the wrong blockchain and Mods cannot fix it, You have no other choice rather than wait for Admin. So, it's better to wait for lightlord and let's community know if you get a solution.

Do you have the habit of reading ToS of a site before start using them? You deposited wrongly and now you want the money back not even any service provider will return that but I am not supporting Bitvest as well for their unprofessional behaviour which is existing for months now but he had a reason to back which is his health problem.

Based on your post, this is a human error which clearly means that Binance has no fault and no responsibility to you. You sent a litecoin to a bitcoin address and then you expect the transaction would be processed smoothly. In the first place, you should have transacted accordingly to avoid unnecessary problems. Using the proper wallet and address could have prevented this from happening. But you didn't, hence, you are having a hard time recovering the coins now. If they would help you, probably it would a week or so before you get your funds back into your wallet.

I suggest you do follow ups to monitor the updates about your problem. If you know it yourself that you are the one who made a mistake, then wait for their response. Afterall it's not only your problem that they are catering and attending to. If you think you're right and still the said party is still isn't addressing your concern, then you can make a thread at the scams and accusations board with the evidences that you have.

I don't want to comment on an account that's three coins or a legend, which doesn't believe your story. But honestly I believe your story, because now there are so many liar sites that only want our deposit money, whereas they only give us a little victory.

That's what puzzles me too, there's only testimony and ranting although there's been a talk about Bitvest's wallet being empty so I didn't pry too much and I thought it's trite because somebody might've already asked for evidences but it seems that OP hasn't provided anything yet.

Before commenting this, you must at least try to read and check which Site you are referring Because this topic talks about a more than
8 years Old site that has proven their legitimacy in this Community(Bitcointalk or even outside) about how they managed their site
for those long years.
it is just recently that there are issues arise against this gambling site , but look about OP's problem , it is an obvious that he is on mistake here
but still forcing the site to engage and comply to all His demands.
I don't know in which gambling you have that experience (Liars and want your deposit If you have any action towards) but Bitvest is far different from those .

Well that is why you always advised playing on reputable sites only, and I will also suggest you list out the scamming sites to give warning to members of the forum if you have any.
Bidvest has been around for a while now and the recent delay in some of its activities has raised a lot of concern in the forum with its signature payment delayed.

It's better to be get delayed than to be scammed? Did you get what I have meant to?
lightlord was active on bitcointalk forum recently on December 15 but not sure why he is silent on all these issue. This is really ridiculous how such a long site has turned into. Instead of watching the site to be died, why don't lightlord even sell the project lol.

Maybe it is because he wants to sell the project and he is not trying to develop it further? If now he is negotiating the terms or perhaps even completing the deal and moving everything, it would be understandable that he no longer has to waste time dealing with marketing and replying to forum posts.

If he is going to sell the casinos then he won't let the reputation of the casino to fell, he will take it to the peak by investing more money and lucrative promotions so there will be more traffic so he can take better deal.

OMG, the speculation is going somewhere which is unimagineable. ::)

In fact, my imagination seems to have galloped too far.  :) However, leaving the community with so many unanswered questions creates an atmosphere of mystery, and this leads to all sorts of speculations. Hopefully everything will be clear soon.

This is not the first time this kind of thing do happen. Lightlord do login to his account to see what is happening in n the forum and most he will just scan the matters going and suddenly go offline. Maybe he only comes to read messages and go offline who knows.  Let op write to lightlord and tender everything that happened to him so he can get a quick solution from it.

^ Lightlord (Last Active: December 15, 2021, 07:58:19 AM).
OP has mentioned here that he send PM to lightlord regarding this thread? It could be lightlord does not have an idea on this thread that is why we don't have heard any comment here. The owner of Bitvest knows how this will forum work and how to care about your reputation and I don't see any reason in just a small buck that losing LTC in the wrong address could be lead other users to believe that lightlord did not care about his casino or OP should need more patient since Bivest here is nothing to blame.

Exact not the good excuse for delaying of payment. I remember they’ve changed a lot from a good paying campaign into one of the less paying campaign and seriously, it managed by different manager already and yet no one holds the fund since the owner ate still the one processing it.

I completely agree.

And agree with the sentiment that lightlord should probably sell the project. But that would obviously come only if there is interest in an acquisition.

I personally don't see health problems/long standing reputation or anything of that sort as a valid excuse for being completely unprofessional and borderline scamming customers, especially when holding withdrawals can lead to problem gamblers risking their withdrawals.

It has been long i notice that bitvest platform have not been in existing, i think this platform is self moderated and if the casino union of it is not functioning again the thread should be Lock, because i been observing this for long time, the platform is not operating the way it was before.

Everyone is waiting for the response from Lightlord, because he is coming online but not giving any shit about what is going on and also we don't know he is alright physically so if someone doesn't want to take the risk by betting on his site they have lot other options so go there and continue gambling.

Unfortunately, but probably the consequences of his behavior will be just such that he will lose many users. Certainly not only you and I think the same and we would not want to risk a deposit in a casino where there is no contact with the Admin.  Lightlord should be aware of this, so this situation is even stranger.

It's been there all of this time.  It's just that there were some problems that has been encountered. And that's why these complains have came out but AFAIK, they're trying to fix it already.

Do you mean the thread? this thread isn't the official.

That's the sad truth, it's not the same as before for which it became popular and a place to go for those gamblers that likes the set of games that they have.

You are right, I think op has a big problem to blame a mere gambling site to fetch out his money when it's obvious that he actually made the mistake then coming back to attack Bitvest. I am not just interested in this conversation cause this is not the first occurrence so we should be careful how we send out fund. Although Bitvest also have their lapses which is never encouraging.

What ? not existing? the thread is keeping bumped so what is not existing? if you mean OP is not updating then it is His prerogative because there are no rules in this forum that says it is prohibited not to Update your thread as long as you are not scamming others.
and also That thread runs years now and you wanted to be locked just because there is some loser that cannot accept the fact that His mistake makes him this thread?
and if you are being bothered as you are observing the thread? then best to stop checking it so you'll have no problem at all .

Below is the last comment received by the OP on this issue and he may not reply further. I request admins to lock this thread because every time any one posts here, It is bumped and gives wrong impression of bitvest.

I only used bitvest casino for gambling once but I didn't have any bad experience, but I have noticed many complain about withdrawal that's unfair though. Maybe during my time I was lucky not to have any issue.

My experience with BitVest wasn't bad. So after reading your post I think the lack of communication was the main cause which had caused this issue. Sending the coin into the wrong wallet because of this lack of communication has caused this inconvenience. Also, the response of chat support wasn't satisfactory. I would suggest you send a reminder msg against your complaint.

Is that worst really? I have known bitvest as a good one and have played on that casino for quite long time back in the day. I played on both bitvest and 777coin casino managed by lightlord and has no issue back then. What's wrong now. Though it seems a fault from your side, it should be fixed and send your fund back.

The thing is the operator of the site who is lightlord have always come online in this forum once in a while but did not respond to most of the complain about his site, I suggest any user that is not getting response should try to reach him through pm or on the official Bitvest thread.

Why should the thread be locked? Is the platform not in existence again that you want their thread to be locked.  Thanks that now you no that something is wrong with Bitvest operation making it difficult for Investors and gamblers to get their winning funds to their wallet. Do not think that this is the first time this is happening here.

The site is still existing until now but I think the reputation is not good anymore.
you can see the site and it's still active. https://bitvest.io/

Also, I did check on lightlord's profile and most of the negative comments only relate to the delayed payment of the campaign. you can also see it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=30541... Lastly, I guess this should be moved to scam accusation if OP has solid evidence on his accusation.

^ Sad to say, in just a matter of hundreds of dollars to pay lightlord ruined his reputation.
That is good advice, compile all your documents like your valid proof and create scam accusation on the accusation board, remember if you have lack valid proof your accusation is useless. However, I am thinking of another side too, it could be this is not a scam because recovering lost coins because it was accidentally sent to the other blockchain address and was not their fault. It is their willingness to help.
I don't understand why lightlord let this happen.

Heard about the delay many times already but that’s not the issue I guess, the real problem here is that they are not cooperative or OP are just panicking since he lost the money. If they wrongly send the money to different address, it will be hard for Bitvest to recover it same thing with the other site. Well, Bitvest slowly losing their good reputation, it looks like Lightlord is not hands on anymore to manage the site.

Maybe too busy or doesnt really care that much of the issue? We know on whats the reputation of this gambling site in the market and its just really surprising that they are having some issues now
and turns out that they dont really pays attention on this one after for a long time and its a really bad thing for the business.Sooner or later their reputation would be tarnished out
if they dont know on how to resolve those pending issues.

You should check their main thread and see where it all started. They're one of the best before but because of the issues addressed and being on hiatus.
There were some problems that have been brought and delayed in solution. From the hot wallet refilling, it's where it all started. You can check and read the discussions on their own official thread and read what the people says about it.

this is an ongoing problem, some people saying are having trouble withdrawing and this doesn't happen to all users who play on bitvest (respond to this must be careful and thorough)

I don't know if the problem has been resolved but I still believe that Bitvest is a trusted gambling site

The problem you are talking about was only temporary and has long since been solved. All hot wallets have been replenished and the situation is completely stable. Unfortunately, the discomfort is coming from the fact that we still do not know why such situations occur after so many years of flawless providing business by Lightlord.

Bitvest and 777coin used to be among of those reputable casinos. However due to some issues about withdrawal and delayed payments plus the behavior of the owner (which seems do not care of what's goin on) it reflected to his business and reputation. But the owner released an explanation on why he's not been around and thats because of his personal condition.

Anyway in this issue, op is at fault because he's the one who send a coins to the wrong chain. However what he wants is for Bitvest team to help him with his issue and maybe he's not getting that help to assist him, thats why this thread is existing.

Lol Where did you find that "Many Complain about Withdrawals?" there are Few and this thread does not even talk about Withdrawal but instead the stupidity of OP sending Litecoin in Bitcoin address and taking the blame to the team/site when it is His mistake .
If there is a Gambling site that has Tons of Withdrawal Issues? that is Your Signature campaign Owner so don't ever dare telling people here about problem of Bitvest when your 1xbit scam site is the one that must be here.

Good that there is other from different Gambling site that has Big Issues yet answering like this with clearing .
Bitvest had solved all the Issue towards them and this new case from OP is literally not Bitvest problem , though OP is asking for Support and Help but this is not obligatory from the gambling site because they have done no mistakes at all.

If it is also shown on the Bitvest then how a user don't blame himself/herself or how the user can't understand the fault of the user instead of giving negative opinion to a gambling site. For the fault of the user, the user should feel guilty instead of saying the site as worse. And also, the user should be happy if the site co-operate with the user.

I will never support claims like this that a more than 8 years old casino that provide one of the best plays over the years and with just a misunderstanding you will ruin their reputation?
the Owner of the site continuously providing what is needed though it takes some time before settling but still this is not to be called "Worst Casino"

and remember that you have  a past case in this gambling site and now claiming another one?

well after 15 days, still nothiing from them! how long would I need to wait for my funds to be recover? couple years?

Didn't you notice the warning message when you want get the deposit address as below screenshot?

https://i.imgur.com/n4rC6oo.png

It is clear the rules says that any coins other than bitcoins cant be recovered, so what do you expect? Just admit your own mistake and let it go, I know it is not easy to accept the fact but nothing you can do. You cant force them to recover your money because of your own mistake. You can wait, but you should not expect to get it quick.

Just wait and keep updating The facilitators in bit est casino so that you will know when you can get your money or you can't get your money back.
In your case, it's hard to recover your loss cause you send a none BTC to BTC addresses and they do not miss something cause they provide already a caution/notice all you need is to wait be patient keep calm and pray that your money will came back.

I am confused why would you try to deposit LTC to their BTC wallet and blame BitVest? If you are a gambler and uses crypto I think you know that transferring other coins to Bitcoin wallet or vice versa will result of a lose coin so I think it is not the fault of either Binance and BitVest it is actually your fault.

And the problem is that the longer issues like this one remains then the harder it would be to sell the casino, after all not long ago bitvest had a good reputation among their customers, like any casino it had a problem here and there but nothing serious, and taking into account how long the casino had existed people had no problem referring other people there.

But now if things keep going in this direction and more people keep having problems with the casino then the lower the chances to sell it to someone that has the time and money to manage the project, as the bad reputation is not going to disappear just because a new person is behind bitvest, and as such someone with the desire to manage their own casino may decide it is better to start their own project than to buy one that has a bad reputation.

Yeah agreed.

However, BitVest does have other major issues mostly pertaining to withdrawals.

Even though in this instance Bitvest is not at fault there are plenty of other instances where they definitely are. I would still avoid them at all costs right now.

Really hard to believe on on what are the things they've been experiencing now which i cant really blame out now that people had already bad impressions to them.Issues were pending and remained unresolved
which would be totally a bad thing for their reputation that they had built up for years.
Lightlord should settle things up because if not then that would surely cost them.

bump this up for to get attention from lightlord but I guess he doesn't even care lol

I think the player had a bad experience with Bitvest, that is why he tend to tag it with such kind of name that is misleading. You know how humans behave. They tend to go against things easily with high aggression which is not supposed to be so. I think op would have given Bitvest enough time for his complains to be resolved rather than bringing it here too early. I blame LightLord for his weakness to resolve issues.

At the moment Bitvest seems to be in some trouble. They will have to work on their reputation. I can't remember correctly, but this site used to have a good name and reputation on the forum, right? This seems to be more of a recent thing. Payouts are of course essential, and for many players the most important element on a betting site.

Obviously that you did not read this OP's that is why you posts like this, Why would OP has a right to put time for bitvest or lightlord to comply when this is a clear mistake in His part?
read the OP and you will understand why lightlord need nothing to respond to this claim.
you will never ask this confusing when you already read and study the whole OP.

I will advise you have more patience with bitvest or better still send a reminder to the admin light lord to serve as a reminder and do the same through the support of the site, your issue may take a very long time to be resolved but know that the fault is from you and not Bidvest.

According to this thread, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1221154.0, they have been online since 2015. That was almost seven years ago and Bitvest had a good reputation before. But after @lightlord with his health, the site seems not unmanaged because their thread is not active anymore.

Related to depositing his funds, maybe he doesn't check the wallet address and thinks that the LTC wallet address is a BTC address so he sends it to that wallet address. Maybe he doesn't seem aware that Bitvest has a problem but he is still playing on that site.

Right now the OP just needs to wait patiently, it's true that the OP actions to contact both parties, namely binance and bitvest, but because it was a mistake that the OP made, of course, the OP doesn't need to expect more if there will be a settlement from the bitvest side, I don't know why OP sends LTC to bitcoin address, isn't that a different address?
Btw in your opinion, is it possible for bitvest to return OP Ltc, and is it possible to withdraw Ltc from a Btc wallet?

Theoretically it is possible since Bitvest own the private key of the bictoin wallet, the question is that will bitvest want to do it?
The rules is clearly saying that any other coin than bitcoin sent to bitcoin address is considered as a lost.
I'm sure most casinos has similar rule for this case as it may not worth the time for the casino to do it especially if the amount is just small.

Yes, I think that is theoretically possible. They can use the private key of the BTC address to access litecoin chain. It depends on the wallet owner whether he will try to help the user get his money back or not.

Lightlord is usually busy and for this case he should open the main wallet (hot wallet/ cold wallet) to check either the fund is recoverable or not. Though there is almost no chance to recover the fund. Hopefully, think if he/they can recover the fund they will assist and send back to you. So, you should wait patiently and keep update with their support team.

But OP must not push lightlord to act ASAP like what he demanded here in this post and besides This kind of person must not give any good return because Look at his behavior and how he deals in Bitvest from from the start.
For me? if i were in this , I'll let Him wait for long so he will learn how to deal when you are in mistake and not putting blame to anyone , and try to ask with good attitude,.

You have a point. If only op double check the address he will not be put in the situation he's in right now.

The owner of the site is not active on interacting here so his option is the support of the site. Im not certain if he can still recover his loss coins since it was sent in the wrong chain, but only lightlord or the team can address his issue. If there's no progress or updates then you have no choice but to wait.

Since we do not know when @lightlord comes back again, the only thing @OP can do is just hope and wait for more, but I am not sure how long he will wait as @lightlord is not delegated his decision another person on his team. But if @lightlord comes back and checks his issue and finds that he sent it to the wrong chain, I am not sure if @lightlord will refund the amount he sent because that is not related to him.

I think the poor rating is due to anger of not getting his coin back not good explanation. I don't think this is a very good idea to bring the issue here making it big for the forum to agitate on. This is the fault of the op but because of the current issue of Bitvest coupled with complains from other gamblers, then this is really escalating the matter. I'm not surprised though.

Why he need to wait while the rule is clear enough that any wrong transaction cant be recovered. OP should admit the mistake and follow the rules in Bitvest. It is fine to try contacting them, but there is no point to keep waiting. If bitvest can recover it, it will be double edged sword. If there will be similar case in the future, then the player will use this case and say to Bitvest "please serve your players fairly". But wait, anyone knows how much the deposited LTC?

It's your fault and it requires a manual recover. So, it doesn’t matter whether their hot wallet is empty or what. Unless someone recovers it manually through importing the private key, you are not receiving the fund. It lightlord is the one who has access to their wallet, I think you have to wait as lightlor is inactive for quite a long time now.

I've had complaints like this several times. When they win at a gambling site they do not want to tell the slightest bit. But when they have a problem, they vent it in the forum. Even I made a thread about showing victory is much opposed. You should check the credibility of the casino before depositing your money (crypto).

Your thread is not much opposed , instead there are only few who opposes while more are supporting so why extend your thread here when this is a different story?

OP is at mistake here and yours is not the same issue so let it here.

exactly but of course OP will not accept that fact instead all he wants is He win in this case and lightlord will give back His fund that he mistakenly sent in different wallet.

We can draw the conclusion that 18 days is a very long time that there is still no solution and clarification. It would be best if the player in question is just paid, to avoid more damage to the site. A story always has two sides. Bitvest was quite popular for a while, but that popularity now seems to be waning.

And unfortunately this is one issue in which people are not going to be very forgiving, after all we all understand that casinos may have issues of all kind, like bugs on their games, display issues, the site could take some time to load and many other issues.

But when it comes to withdrawals people want to see their money reaching their wallets as fast as possible and if this does not happen then they are going to complain, and when this issue is so generalized as it is the case of bitvest then it is understandable that people are avoiding the casino at the moment.

Lets imagine if you are an owner of a gambling site and you have a rule or a specific term that you cant recover wrong transaction.
Although the coin is recoverable, will you do it while it might take a lot of your time for few dollars or hundred dollar?
The mistake is clearly coming from the player, so how can you say that the best thing is to pay what is asked by player?
People in general with neutral understanding, wont say like that IMO.

He probably misunderstood the situation and thought that a player simply had not been paid. It may also be a bit more complicated than many people realize at the moment. After all, Bitvest does not have such a bad name. It also depends on how much money is involved in total. It all matters if the player is in his right or not. Then the Terms should be consulted to see what is goingon exactly.

At least you come to read the full OP and not just the recent replies?

OP admitted His mistake so why need to put the blame in the Site? when the only thing that matters from OP is the team is not doing their part to Help him when the truth is he knows about everything that in mistakes.

If you are the owner of the site and the players in issue is not trying to ask nicely , do you think you have a patience to help him?

considering that in the past he even called the Site TRASH GAMBLING SITE? come one mate try to get deeper first before putting your post here.

That's the reason this thread should be locked  :(
I am not happy to see replies against BitVest, when there is no issue with the site. Most people only read first few posts and think that bitvest has not resolved this matter or something wrong is being done by them.

What do you expect from the Bitvest team? they will send a full refund?

Maybe you are not reading from the previous post and you are intended to comment here is for the spam just to get paid for what you have promoted right now. Obviously, Bitvest doesn't have any responsibility for the lost LTC because it's the OP's fault not on Bitvest itself. It is the willingness of the Bitvest casino if they will send a full refund to this OP but as we see they don't because that is very risky on their part.

I agree, but it should OP or the admin will do this.

Not exactly true to be honest. It's not a fucking job which requires you hours to recover. It doesn't take more than half an hpour if someone is less expert while on the other hand it should take few minutes to recover if you are a pro. I believe any team working for bitvest are a pro on this isusue. SO, since you have access to the fund, why not refund it? It's weird that Bitvest team ios taking such a lot of time to recover the fund. After all, it's their customer's fund.

Calling it the worst casino because of sending coins to the wrong address (LTC to BTC address) isn't fair, don't you think? It's your mistake and you can't simply expect the casino to expose a private key (they have to import that key into their LTC wallet) just to recover your funds. Learn from it and move on. Next time read the deposit page where they clearly have a statement about depositing coins to the wrong wallet/address. And it's also important to double check your address before confirming your transaction.


Also, after all these years, it's still strange why many exchanges/services still process transactions to "LTC 3 addresses" since it should be known by now that these were changed into a format that starts with M to avoid confusion between LTC and BTC P2SH addresses. If Binance did so, this confusion wouldn't have occured, as your wrong deposit address would have been rejected.


My conclusion: Bitvest has done nothing wrong. It's your fault and Binance is also to blaim a little for processing your transaction, as they can use a better system that rejects LTC addresses starting with 3.

Do you know what is mean by rule? Lets see the rule of Bitvest related to this situation as quoted below:


Players are already notified/warned, if there is a mistake from the player then Bitvest has no responsibility to recover and refund the money sent to the wrong chain.
The same may happen in withdrawal where most casinos asks players to double check the address before clicking the withdraw button.
Lets say someone put a wrong address while making withdrawal, will you force the casino to make refund too because of player's fault?
My main point is, player may ask for a refund although there is a rule as quoted above but players cant force the casino to do it.

Yeah, correct but it's also understandable that Bitvest can recover the fund and send it back to its original owner. I wonder if Bitvest will ever recover the fund and use as their own fund later on. Would you say the same if they did so? It's not about rules all the time but taking care of the community. They are not liable to do so but doing that wouldn't make them lost a lot of time and in return, they can find a satisfied client.

Actually i have already reported this to be locked since OP does not returning weeks now and it looks like he rested His case already as He knew that it is Him that commit mistake and His stupidity to blame Bitvest regarding this .
and I'm sure he had learn His lesson now.
+1 with you here mate , indeed this is what happens and for Bitvest to be blame is a really big mistake .

Hey mate, don't you think you have no right to insult him or call him stupid, for the fact that he's just trying to express his predicament. I know he shouldn't have used a derogatory heading or topic to express his misfortune and that does not make us to cast a spell on him. I believe he might be angry at his own mistake which I think we should just ignore this thread or rather correct him... simple!

Rather, the point is that this thread has been created unnecessarily. OP made a mistake and should just calmly wait for the support response and then for fixing the problem. If he's angry about making a mistake, he should to take a few deep breaths instead of accusing someone else, here casino.

Maybe he knew that his complains will never be resolved that is why he decided to turn it to the forum for help. Using such a derogatory heading has reason maybe to attract Lightlord himself so he can do something fast about it so he's gambling platform will not be tarnished by mere mistake that was made by a gambler. Everything has reasons and I'm nit surprised if he decided to bring it in form of attack.

I hope they are not in any way affiliated with the large company called, BidVest with more than 132 870 employees.  ::)  I know the site name is spelled slightly different (BitVest) ..but it's pronunciation is almost the same.

The real BidVest site even have a Bank called Bidvest Bank ....so they are doing very well in Africa. THE BIDVEST GROUP LIMITED is an international investment holding company listed on the JSE Securities Exchange South Africa in the Industrial – Support Service sector, with subsidiaries listed on the London, Australian and Luxembourg stock exchanges.

Lol... I'm not sure they are affiliated because Bitvest is just a gambling platform where casino and sport betting take place. There pronunciation and spelling is obvious enough to tell you the difference between the two. BidVest and Bitvest is two different company, so you shouldn't be scared.

That's true, bitvest is proven to be a big gambling site, just because they are spelled the same way doesn't mean Bidvest and Bitvest are under the same group. It's unknown which one formed first, so it's just a simple guess.

There are many companies in the world that have similar names. Bitvest has existed as a gambling platform for many years and no one has ever linked it to any other project (apart from those that Lightlord has).
I'm sure there is nothing to do between the bank you are talking about and Bitvest.

Dont know on why you had attached out a Bank into a gambling site or company? Slight changes and similarity on how it pronounced doesnt automatically means that they are related.

So its a non relevant thing you had posted on here.It has nothing to do with this issue and i boggles up my mind on why their affiliated or something.

So better not to make out some speculative approach if you dont able to back it up with some facts.

I have seen hundreds of examples of how someone can change the name of KFC or Adidas, so the situation with Bitvest does not surprise me at all.
I am surprised that someone has thought of speculating that a cryptocurrency casino may have something to do with an African bank.  ;D ;D

Only bitvest could confirm if they are affiliated or not, but I think it's pretty obvious that they are not as we are linking bitvest to a big company with over 100k employees which bitvest might not even have at less than 1% of that number. Stop the speculation, that doesn't make sense at all to be honest.

Also, OP call it the worst casino, how can they be linked to a good business?

BTW, are we talking about this company (https://www.bidvest.co.za/)?

I think there's no need for any confirmation from them and I think they're not connected at all. There are companies that have the exact name as the others but they're not affiliated with each other. On the one that's being brought, there's a misspelling and even it's misspelled and close to the actual casino, I don't think that there's really a connection with them at all. It is that sometimes our minds are playful and we're thinking things to that point of comparison and become too curious and overthinker.

Yeah, hes been preferring to https://www.bidvestbank.co.za/ which i dont really see any connections too thats why i had said earlier that it totally irrelevant on minding if theyre connected.

and on just looking on the industry that they are engaging on then i dont see that Bidvestbank would really create some casino which isnt the same name of their company?

Doesnt really make sense right.?  :D

You are too much serious about the name. In the global there might have a lots of name which might have been used in multiple case. The name can be matched for different countries even on the same countries even of the same area. On the forum someone using a telegram starting with shasan-- but that is not me. Anyway, bitvest is the gambling site which we are talking about and that site is not related with anything else.

well there have been months already and nothing from them to recover my funds. I already accept the truth is that casino will keep my money when I making mistake just like decided to gambliing at their site! COMPLETELY GARBAGE CASINO

Did you receive any response from their support during this time? Did they confirm receiving your message or anything like that? lightlord is still regularly logged in to this forum (last active yesterday, January 14). Did you try sending him a PM?

It is not that your mistake is deciding gambling in this casino , instead you don't wanna admit your mistake that you sent wrong coin in a different wallet and it is hard for you to accept that reality .

and you must also accept that though the site should reply or answer you from your queries yet it is not their obligation to help you recover that funds sent to wrong address.



Bitvest is experiencing really a bad time now added that the owner and representative does not updating anything here and in their ANN Thread , but calling them garbage just because of your problem here is not right in my own opinion , bitvest did not scam anyone in this forum and i believe even outside this community .

The rule is clear that send coin into the wrong chain is not recoverable, you can push and keep complaining if there was someone from Bitvest promised to you to recover it.
Do not blame other because your own mistake, you should accept the fact that you cant do anything because of your mistake and move on.
I also believe you are aware the latest situation in Bitvest especially related to the owner lightlord who is not as active as before.

I think the fact is ear now and op should be seeing this so he will know that it is his fault not anybody's fault. I don't think there is anyway it can be recover but it's like he sounds like it is a usually occurrence which had been a normal way he funds his Bitvest account. Never the less I think if their is not solution to be the his own mistake, he should just forget about it and leave Bitvest and Lightlord alone.

OP got a response from the moderators informing that his funds will be recovered:


Unfortunately, he was not told when it would happen, hence his frustration.

These types of transactions are not easy to reverse. The situation with the casino owner also definitely makes it difficult to clarify this case. It seems the OP can do nothing but wait patiently.

Can bitvest really keep that funds if it is in the wrong chain?
Maybe, it is quite complicated to recover that fund so bitvest just kept silent about it.
As we know, LL is not active in the past months because of his health situation.
So no one can literally keep up with the resolution of this case.
We can't say, it is the casino's fault because what they can do is just assist in the recovery.
That is, if they will be generous here. Because in the first place, it is not their job to recover the funds sent via wrong chain.
I hope players will be fair on throwing feedback to the casino, if they know they have shortcomings from their end.

Very right! There is problem here and there. Lightlord is not that strong and a good customer to the great Bitvest mistakenly sent coin to wrong address and the team are not showing interest to recover the lost fund. Now op is angry. What can be done? I think op should just forget since many persons are never in support of his mistake of sending coin to the wrong address. If the coin can be recovered then, let the team make that happen.

Even if the team wanted to do so but with that irreversible aspect of crypto then it couldn't really be done unless they would personally compensate those amounts had been lost?

Is he out of his mind?  No business would be doing that specially if the lost coin does involved with your own personal human error which its always been suggested or been minded
that sending out funds should be on the correct address.
You couldn't blame off someone just because of your own personal mistakes and made them responsible on committing that.

Of course OP shouldn't blame anyone for his own mistake.
The transaction he made, despite the fact that it is quite a big mistake, is reversible, but it is not easy and it will definitely take a long time.
OP himself wrote that he received a reply from moderators that he would receive a refund, but it is not known when.

The OP should not expect that he will get the refunds as the mistake is totally his. It is the casino's prerogative if they will refund him or not because most casinos even exchanges are pointing this out clearly in their terms and conditions. Coins sent to the wrong chain are not recoverable and considered lost. And with the situation of bitvest right now, I don't think he is asking this request in good timing. So if he is patient, maybe wait for lightlord to come back here and maybe he will just refund the amount without getting to the point of recovering it.

I thought that their hot wallets has been filled and no longer empty and that means that you're good to withdraw with any funds left of you there.

That's sad that you can't get your funds anymore as the hot wallet seems to be empty. Well, I'm sure that once the hot wallet gets filled, your going to get your funds again if everything has been settled by their own management.

I think that Bitvest is going to resolve this when it comes back, pretty sure that they're not going to waste that reputation that they have established during their time in the forum just to screw over some people for a meager amount of money. I believe as much as @batang_bitcoin believes in Bitvest, pretty sure that participants of the campaign can probably testify that it's going to come back any time soon.

There is nothing to resolve here and nothing in reputation to be wasted because this issue is a total sickness of OP , he mistakenly Send the funds in wrong wallet and he wanted Bitvest to solve his case and keep calling lightlord for His own stupidity .

you should read the thread carefully and read the replies from OP admitting His wrong movemenr.
 
so meaning there is nothing that he needs to claim here unless Bitvest will  act in great behavior .

Maybe after they fill the hot wallet, someone from their staff can come here and explain the situation to help Bitvest and 777coins resolve the problem and still run their business. Besides that, when the hot wallet is filled, hopefully, all players who still play on the site can feel calm down and not worry if they want to withdraw their money. That will be good again if they can reschedule their campaign on this forum as that can help them gain reputations again like before.

It is sad to see that some members here are not even knowing the situation then giving blind opinion. Guys please kindly read and understand what is the main issue in this thread before giving your opinion. Your current opinion shows that you guys do not understand it at all. I'll tell you that it has nothing to do with the hotwallet so stop talking about the hotwallet. Go back to the first page guys and read the first post by OP and you'll know the issue better then you can give your opinion.

I a just smiling when reading such replies because it is obvious that none of these posters really give chance reading the Main topic instead replying to each post they can understand to give reply not knowing that they are completely OFF Topic and their discussions are not related anymore.

OP clearly mention what is his claim and what the status now yet there are others that try to discuss that Hot wallet that is far from the main issue here, though bitvest has that case also sometime last year but this is not that thread and they are posting in different one   ;D

I don't know why they are still talking about reputation for this casino but we all know that the management of this casino/sites carefully doing something so that their reputation will not be ruined in the present days.

Back to the problems/issues of Op that he/she mistakenly send his/her LTC to BTC wallets and asking for justice which is this issues made by his careless thinking. But I don't know if there's a chance that Op will have his/her money back cause this is not about the casino's mistake but Op's mistake.

It does seem like they might be having some liquidity issues, even though they attempt to look professional and legitimate, they cannot even afford a relatively cheap marketing tactic such as a signature campaign. That does seem like a big red flag, especially because they aren't even trying to scam anyone. I guess nobody wants to use their casino, therefore they are not seeing any cash flow.

Best to avoid.

I used to make the same mistake and I had to forget about my lost crypto. This is how it works, unfortunately. You are to be careful when dealing with coins. Otherwise, you will be punished for your own mistakes. No one to blame in this case.

I don't think they will ruin their reputation I will try to do a purposeful review of absolutely all casinos on the internet. We will immediately make a note that it is possible to change information about specific casinos. You're right, be careful and they may change their site's policy, of course we have to review all the changes.

Don't be surprise on why people talk about reputation since there are times that this casino especially the owner became questionable so its expected that there are people who will think that they might turn something bad and people who deposited their money will lost what they put on this casino. But lightlord will not throw hus reputation away as he build his business for so many years and most provably he will solve those issue since he care about his business.

Bitvest has still the good reputation and it is still a creditable casino to play with. However if anyone feel their withdrawals may be stuck or pending, they can always have the choice to skip the casino and play at another site.


No, the signature campaign was paused due to the health issues of light lord and not because of the liquidity issues. There has been never the funds issues with Bitvest. They always have funds but somehow lightlord is too busy with other work.

It's not anymore. It was reputed until lightlord was having done his duty perfectly. But these days, he is just getting late in his every duty. Have you noticed that? He has started a new project earlier namely ElonCoin but he isn't active anymore there, left all the investors without any plan, any words on what will happen.

Anything could turn out to be bad no matter how reputable it is from years of existence and this is the risks involved in dealing with things where anything couldnt really be an assurance to remain like forever.

If lightlord wouldnt really give any clarifications of this issue then it would really be the end of this business as it would messed up the reputation
that they have built up for years.

Bitvest used to be a reputable casino. But due to some issues and lack of communication of the owner, it affected his business and gamblers started to have doubt if they will continue to play on the site.

Yes its his fault but he is hoping Bitvest casino will somehow help him if he can still recover the funds. Unfortunately there's no good news for him.

I think that is not how it meant to be mate because for more than 8 years of existence bitvest and oightlord served their players and campaign participants with good management though few years ago when there are some delays in payments but everything is being settled with all token of bonuses.
soon me their reputation remains one of the trusted casino in crypto

and not enough reason to be avoided , and also there comes a health issue that added big  part  on those delays.

I have read some threads on this forum and I can say that some launch accusations and they grow as a snowball when rolling down. There is no doubt this on is a respectful and trustworthy website. Some particular cases may occur but they should not change the general situation, I think.

It's quite disappointing for their gamblers if that's what has been happening. But there's no one that can solve it but only the owner or anyone that's close to him and has access to the funds for the refilling of it. They've made a lot of hard work to get that reputation they're having right now. It's understandable everyone's frustration especially those that have funds but cannot withdraw their money. But hoping for the best of both ends and to the management that they'll be back and make things operational just like the good old days without having any problems.

Dude, is it really hard to read and understand what is the main problem? Why you keep talking like Bitvest is the one to be blame in this case while the fact is that OP sent a coin into wrong address. I suggest you previously to read, and now you keep talking about refilling hot wallet. Look also in the ANN thread of bitvest, there is no one complaining about hot wallet. Someone did confirm that hotwallet is in good condition since he could withdraw without issue.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5382115.0
this to those who said bitvest is trusted!!!

It's true that once a website becomes more and more popular, with that newly gained popularity, the website also gains trolls and haters who seemingly wish to put the website in a bad light. This is quite unfair but it happens to any and all websites. However, this is mainly true for websites that gain a lot more popularity and have a higher user base. A website that is just starting out fresh and is not that well known, should not have any negative accusations. And if they do, then to me personally, I think it can signal as a red flag.

However accusations can also be a red flag if a lot of people claim the same accusations, even if the casino is more well known.


case in point. Just look at all the people agreeing that bitvest is not all that good.

You are not right. Even if you do not receive your fund in your life then still you cant say this site is a garbage gambling site as you have made mistake while you have sent one type of currency to another type of currency. It is almost impossible to recover the fund by them and if still possible then they may not want to help you if the fund is little. As for recovering that they have to open their main wallet even they might have to refresh their wallet. And still they may not get that fund.

There are indeed situations on which a certain platform couldnt really do something about on particular conditions just like on retrieving out those coins been sent out on other addresses or blockchain

on which even theirselves couldnt able to recover it back.It is just people do always have that impression that the house is been keeping  those coins.We should realize that websites
does have those kind of cautions and reminders about sending those funds on correct addresses or those coins would be lost forever.

My bad, I'm sorry and thank you for the correction.

Now this is another story and a big amount is involved. Well, in the absence of the owner, his remaining active admins should be the ones making it great despite without him. But, another scene has come out that would stain their reputation.

Just did a quick read your thread and I find this:


So you are basically the same user as the one who created this thread (baodo159)? If it is true, it makes me shocked since you have said Bitvest is the worst casino, garbage casino, etc but you are still depositing and playing? Now you get another issue related to the empty hot wallet that forced you to use mod (badger) to help you for your withdrawal but something unexpected happen with the mod?

^ That is right and I agree, understand their situation, you have made mistake on your own in the first place and now the casino did not recover your fund you are talking about this. There could be a crucial result if they will force you to recover your fund, they could be prone to have or they are vulnerable to hack in that way. I have heard the same story on OP but not on the gambling, it is on the exchange platform but the reason that I have heard is the team won't recover the fund because it is risky on their part.

what matter? I have 2 accounts but were my story is not true? I just do not want to use this account to post that threat since there are many users always look up on my post history then said I am trying to just destroy the casino and all my posts were only with BitVest. But it is the truth, I only having problem with this casino

Everything would only be proven out once Bitvest do gave out their word in regards with this issue and this would really remain speculative since people doesn't know if this one is trolling or real one.

If they wouldn't make out some clarification then this would really raise up some questions in mind whether they are really doing the actual thing or these are all just fake complaints and issues.
For now lets just wait for some words from the team itself.

Did you even read the threat I posted? I have attacked my chat transciript with their team. Stop saying anything if you have not even read the topic yet

Sometimes when I look at the tittle of this thread, I just laugh to my score cause it's just funny and  when you click to check, you'll see something different. Op does not need to blame anyone for his mistake which is very obvious and I believe he's not trying to. Since Bitvest team has not talk anything about  the incident then I think they're not ready to resolve this matter.

But still, the title is true because recently bitvest behavior is going to be worst, in some cases it's worst indeed. Spo, the title is justified. lightlord is not giving it a fuck and not even trying to make things better. Started with the signature campaign, now the whole project is going to die soon. But OPs case is different but still easy to solve if the team cooperate which any team should to satisfy their customers.

Its still a considerable reply if you do ask me since he had a point that the team doesnt really give out any response or clarification on the issue whether they could give or provide some help or not
into those funds been sent out on bitcoin address
There is some similar incident about retrieving those coins back.
https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/8lwtru/i_recovered_my_litecoins_that_i_sent_to_bitcoin/
So sine  Bitvest does only have that access then possibly that they could do it.

Well, your attempt to hide behind alt accounts only reduces your credibility here. My impression is that there are a lot of things in your story that aren't true. Let's start with a simple question: Is it really true that you had problems with this casino only? Besides, it seems quite odd that such a high-roller as you would try so desperately to get a loan of a few hundred dollars or less.

Nothing wrong with having 2 accounts, what I do not understand is why you keep playing in Bitvest while you have said that they are worst casino. You are aware that there are some problems on the site, first is about the hot wallet issue and the other one is about the inactivity of the owner lightlord. This is something unusual for me and maybe for most other people. Logically, people will stay away from a casino where they are aware that there are some issues in the casino.

So you're trying to slander a casino with multiple accounts? Your posting history makes me wonder if any of what you have stated is true.

EDIT:

Seems like you had problems with Bitvest last year as well. If so, how come you still played there after that? I am not trying to defend Bitvest here, but something about your story doesn't add up.

Like what I previously mentioned to fake websites and scams, it is definitely better to avoid than to cure an existing illness- "prevention is better than cure." Once you are on the shorter end of the stick, consider your resources gone as recovering your money from an alleged scam gambling website may be relatively difficult especially if they do not have any representatives that are active here in the forum.

I do agree, however, that you should have gone to a different gambling website. There are tons of reputable and well-known websites that have gained massive popularity and reputation over the years.

Lightlord had not been around on this forum since which shows that something is wrong somewhere and it's high time we all need to be careful because their is not attempt from hi. To look into matters and complains from his gambling site. I don't think anything is wrong with having multiple accounts, if he thinks he care to use his alt then, thats his business.

Well a possible case of abandoning their gambling business right?
I am thinking of this because Bivest now did not justify their user complaint and it seems they showed to the public of being inactive.
It could be a red flag to anyone here that could perhaps encounter the same problem and they will never care their users and perhaps we should stay away until such then Lightlord will comeback. But first -- resolving this issue would be a better decision.

It's strange that he enters the forum but doesn't make a single post, even though he knows he has 2 casinos and an altcoin he created


Name: lightlord
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What kind of business owner would do that? this is weird

Not so strange considering that the lightlord rarely communicated here even before that fiasco with his campaigns. Although, I agree, this isn't exactly the best way to run a business, at least as far as the forum is concerned. If you want to promote business here then you have to actively engage with the community.

ok I agreed 100% that was my stupid when having issue with this casino but I am still playing here because the hot wallet is working when I won but they only left in the hot wallet like 20 to 30 LTC max and it is still considering to be a good amount to keep playing there and get paid instantly. Like I said I like their slot and I usually won whenever I play at their slot by they let the user fix the winning chances that no other casino does. That's reason why I still keep playing at their casino, they really paid me but not all of my winning and the live chat people there are very lovely. Beside that their team is worst than ever casino I have been playing with and now even the super mod is scammed me by ripping me off and they are just demoted her and ignoring me.

if he has this behavior then when people have problems with his casino I suggest they send him a PM that way he won't be able to say he didn't see or doesn't know anything


makes sense especially in the part where you say you always win, we all want to be in a place where we constantly win, hope you don't cheat

but there is nothing to update in his part now , yeah he owns 2 casino but this does not need him to be active in chatting here , instead he is keeping the balance of His casino and the support is answering inquiries so i think we have no right to question his behavior and way of treating his own casinos.
and maybe he keeps getting online to check if there is serious matter that needs his attention and those trolling or nonsense topics that runs here and there.

I said that he enters the forum but does not post and that this was not good for someone who has a casino and created an altcoin, casinos may have money in their wallets and be making payments normally and support is responding to each person, but on his altcoin ANN Thread there are people complaining about his absence and this is not good for him, there are many people who bought altcoin from him who deserve him to give details of the altcoin development, in relation to casinos it would also be better if he appeared constantly giving news

lightlord is very active in this forum even today he is online several times. I think judging he bad things is inappropriate, he owns 2 big gambling sites and is one of the longest existing ones, so I think it's not wise to cast prejudice on he.

He is actively logging in his forum account but he is inactive in giving update about his 2 big gambling site as well as his 1 altcoin project which seems to be abandoned now.


It is good to see that you admit your own mistake, you are aware with the situation so you should be ready for the consequences.
You may complain, but you should not hope too much to get your issue will be solved as soon as possible.
That is one of the consequence of your own mistake to play on a casino where there is a well known issue with the casino and its owner.

It's not that I support the way Lightlord has been running things lately, but I don't think we should give too much credit to this baodo character. Judging by his previous posts (from both of his accounts), it seems Bitvest is not the only casino that he has had issues with. I don't know what his angle is, but something tells me he's not being completely honest with us.

Just because he owns 2 casinos doesn't mean that the casinos are somehow reputable because of that.

The fact of the matter is that he is defrauding people because of the delayed withdrawals that are being held indefinitely. And it's not just one issue - it's multiple complaints about the same site, over and over again, and the fact that he is ignoring it instead of addressing it is laughable.

If he can't run the place he should move on from it or sell it. Not keeping it half dead, half alive.

Just because someone has run their business very well in the past does not mean that if they neglect them now, we still have to be nice to them. Sure, we can listen to the explanations and understand them, but unfortunately Lightlord doesn't tell us exactly what the situation is. This unfortunately does not improve the marketing situation of his casinos.

It would be totally dead if he would let these things to happen and its laughable when you dont really make out some announcement or make a word on whats happening on the site as an owner.
Its been showed that he logs into this forum but didnt make out some response or do talks about on sites issue? Im not really able to blame out people on having a presumption that this site
might be already dead and the owner tends to scam out its users that deposited on the site or simply doesnt pays off in terms of marketing (signature campaign)
If things remain unresolved then we do know on whats next.

You caught him red handed lol. So you meant lightlord do visit this forum when so persons thinks he's nit feeling fine and his not ready to resolve or try to show concern to what people are saying about him and his Casinos. I think he's not ready for something serious now that is why he tend to ignored people's comment and perceptions.

I don't want to mislead anyone, but does anyone have any confirmation that these casinos are still in Lightlord's hands?
It is possible that he is visiting Bitcointalk completely privately and not to talk about casino-related topics.
These are just my suspicions, I have no evidence, but as Slow death wrote, this is not normal behavior of business owner.

It's hard to know that unless someone in the two casinos management-speak up and made an announcement but companies and projects change management as long as the casino is paying and have a good reputation and they maintained their operation, who cares as long as they take care of their players nothing to address here the owner need not post for know, Zodiac already made an announcement he will not speak in behalf of the casinos.

When it comes to cross blockchain transactions then it could neither be retrievable or not depending on some circumstances thats why we couldnt make out conclusions but we could really research things up and if we do

find out that it could be retrieved then it is just part of our right to asked out for some help and as some service then its is really ethical to give it back rather than having no actions at all.

This is where reputation could be ruined up or be built up depending on their next move.

I didn't catch him in the act, I'm just saying that for a person who has 2 casinos and has an altcoin ANN Thread that he created himself, disappearing without giving an explanation, then entering the forum without giving an explanation is not a behavior of a person who cares about your business and altcoin. At least this is my opinion, I'm not accusing him of anything

For the record, LightLord was active on the forum today. Here is what he said in the Bitvest main thread:


Coincidentally or not, this was just after the gambling site had a serious system crash was unavailable for more than 24 hours. It remains to be seen if things will really change for the better from now on.

The fact that he made an announcement after a long layoff and addressed his health condition is a good sign that he wants to keep his two casinos running the crash has a huge impact and there should be an assurance that things are ok and with Bitvest case an announcement coming from their long absence developer is a piece of welcome news, about the signature campaign I hope this time he will escrow the campaign, the long delay is another big issue.

this is actually good news for those who are waiting his official statement towards the future of his casinos. also, great to hear that he is in better health condition as compared to last year. they may start addressing issues that are really of importance.
but the case of the OP, i don't think they can resolve it fast. it is the case of sending funds to wrong network. if we look at it, it is not the site's fault. there are even casinos which explicitly state that funds are considered lost if you sent it to wrong network. so the story stops there.

Good thing that he had made out some announcement and health problem isnt something that you should ignore on and its understandable that he had some health problems and on why he

had missed out things specially on his business and things he handled out.This wont really be an easy one but at least he had made out some words and this might be the start on resolving things.

Site and other marketing issues had might raised up but for sure he would really resolved those things.Just give him some time to start on.

Now that @lightlord is active again , I think sooner there will be an Update or at least answer for this thread from the team or from LL itself because this thread needs to be addressed as this is a serious accusation for one of the oldest casino in crypto .

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Calling the attention of Lightlord to please reply on this thread for clarification .

So you are still playing there and winning money then how can you call it as worst casino ever? Did you lost money by depositing into a scam casino?

Seems Lightlord is active and soon all the wallets will be refilled and update if you have anything to post about your issue also make sure you concentrate on one thread instead of multiple threads.

Let him go at his own pace, the man said that he had some health problems and this will definitely stress him out, pretty sure that in time, @lightlord will answer this, didn't he had a reply on this thread recently? Pretty sure that's an assurance at least that he will try to resolve the problem. I think there's other people that can probably answer on behalf of @lightlord.

Obviously you are not following this thread and you are just posting without any checking from here and in Bitvest ANN thread .
Because lightlord clearly mentioned couple days ago that he will be more active in the business and wanting to re continue the Signature campaigns meaning He had already get into his feet now, also he mentioned that he had gained some pounds now as His health is stable and clearly well now .
maybe this is the reason why the POst is calling lightlord attention to address this issue , and some people On his behalf? if there is someone then it has been answered  long ago and did not need to wait this long.

I did called Him because maybe as some point He had not seen or checked this thread so while mentioning Him maybe He'll come here and make a small post or at least contact OP for clearing the issue.

I have seen Him posted in the Official Thread and this is His update


So I assume that any moment he will be surfing this forum and may find out this thread for clarity .

Although you may have missed it, it has already been mentioned that LL was active on the forum that day just a few posts above yours (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375891.msg59093617#msg59093617). Consider reading at least a few posts on the topic to which you are responding.


Again, there is no need to quote the same message multiple times in the same topic.

Yes one of these, is Zodiac we should not expect anything more on Lighlord even if he addressed his condition, we all know ever since how he responded, and when he posted a timeline it left you guessing, most of the time his week is actually months, he mentioned getting active again and relaunch his signature I don't think it will happen this month or next, possible two or three months from now.

Well, we can't blame Lightlord if he will not reply here we can't please him regarding that matter.
As a story on the OP, he made his own mistake and I think it should be the best time to move on and accept the reality that the fund will not recoverable and no one can get on it. Just monitor the address on the coin that you have lost, if that is landed into a different address it means --there someone who had use on it.

He calls it worst because of the recent change in slot game , also because a mod scammed him and there is also a problem with casino's wallet. Bitvest has been here for years so I believe that they will always refill their wallets but they should look at this case to see if the guy is telling the truth that a mod scammed him.

I think the lack of the staff on this casino is also the reason why there are delays in responses but there is nothing wrong if they change something in their slot games. any casino can make changes in the game especially if its been abused. If he did not like all those features and changes then he should not stick on it.

You cannot call being Online as an ACTIVE MEMBER because even if you keep in getting online yet not posting or doing anything here then that is Not activity to be counted.

Yes he keeps going online but did he managed even addressing this thread? or at least contacting OP for his problem?

though he got Online twice since his disappearing and now updating the ANN thread of Bitvest.

Well zodiac had been online but not  making any post here, so i guess they care nothing about this case and also why need to bother for this as OP is clearly in mistake here and not the site or even lightlord?
this is actually a nonsense thread that only few supporting OP.

Lightlord had already made out some response and he particularly reason out about his health even though its really important to get things to be resolved but lets just give him some time.

Not all the times we are really in good shape even we can say that leaving your business hanging for 2 months is not really that something appealing.Whether users would stay or would find another

place once they had settled their problems on this site which I couldn't really blame for people to have these negative impressions.

We also don't know how serious it was with health. Still, I think that if you manage a site you still work with a team. If the person with the most privileges isn't there or can't work, then there should be some kind of backup so that people can still continue the necessary tasks. 2 months without notice is simply too long regardless of the health reason. Anyway, let us hope it will not happen again.

stop this nonsense because lightlord is now active and same as zodiac , but never did they addressed this thread/issue means they care nothing about OP's behavior because he had once accused already this site for something back and even calling bitvest a trash site but what he does?
continued playing as His addiction is uncontrollable and when he commit another stupid mistake he wanted to blame the owner and site? this is a complete trash post and no one should be blamed but Him.

Lightlord had created three posts so far in this case you cant say that he never creates any post. If you or anyone want to get response about this case or any case then the person should pm the link to make his concentration. And for this case it is not the fault of the admin of the site. It is fault of the OP. And almost it is impossible to recover that fund.

What is their point of being online and not making any single post? Did they only logon to see if they receive a personal message from someone or they just watch their announcement thread replies and maybe respond if there are brutal issues because that is what I also observed on lightlord just like last time after his account gets painted, he then explains if what happens to him but it seems there is nothing too much to talk about the op's issue as it is already been resolved?

Hey, rilwan thanks for your concern but there is nothing to be afraid of bitvest because afterall, bitvest has been still a trusted casino that many of us are playing up until now.

I think OP had already rest his case here because He knew that he cannot win this case because of mistakes he committed that he has the guts to blame the team/site for his own carelessness .
maybe he had now accepted that fact and starts enjoying playing in bitvest again because it seems that he cannot ignore the fact that Bitvest is one of the best gambling site he had ever played  ;D ;D ;D

It's your fault and it requires a manual recover. So, it doesn’t matter whether their hot wallet is empty or what. Unless someone recovers it manually through importing the private key, you are not receiving the fund. It lightlord is the one who has access to their wallet, I think you have to wait as lightlord is inactive for quite a long time now.

This case is not about letting go and forgetting about it. Moderators on the Bitvest website informed OP that he would receive a refund of the funds he deposited. Unfortunately, such an operation is very time-consuming, and the owner is not very active. In this situation, it's all about being patient.

Unfortunately since the one that started this thread has not logged in during the week we do not know with complete certainty what happened, it seems he created also a scam accusation against bitvest but I do not know if he was successful on his claims or if he got all his money back, it wold be interesting to hear how all of this ended, after all bitvest was one of the casinos that has been around for a very long time so we would like to know if he was paid after all.

One of the things that do sucks is on which we don't really get any results or updates whenever someone posted up some issues or complaints and times passed then we don't know if its get resolved or
not but basing up with the behavior of not logging in then presuming that the issue might get resolved or totally he had just give up since he hadn't get any response?

Lightlord had already said up some words which pretty sure that he would clean up the mess on the time that hadn't able to handle his company/site.

So, you mean if not active on the forum or accusations of the forum then users of that gambling site will face this type of situation? If you think so then that's your wrong idea. Because many a gambling site and also many exchange site has no announcement thread and/or no profile on this forum but they are doing their business professionally. Regarding this case it is not possible by any support team to solve the case. As it is almost impossible to recover the fund even who had the access of the hot wallet.

Yes, I agree with you but some people can not stay patient because they need their money back which is not available until @LL online and solve the problem.
We do not even know when @LL will be back here and explain and refund his funds, so he will not get @LL attention no matter what he does.
Hopefully, he can have more patience waiting for the answer as we already see what @LL said in his last reply and give them more time.
@LL is still in the recovery phase, which makes him unable to stay online in this thread, but I feel he will come back soon.

Try not to listen in an account like that mate , since it is clearly that He is wearing a Signature of a well known scammer yet he has a face to show here pointing how bad site in gambling is? if he really has a concern about a site that is not trust worthy then he must first attack his own site and not Bitvest in which legit serving gamblers for many years, more than 8 years now,
and also we knew bitvest and lightlord for many years and we knew how he manage to serve players of His site with trust and respect .

Normal for a person to have bias so expect them to protect the platform they promoted since they can't monetize that account again if their campaign owner decide to close that campaign. For sure they struggle to find another campaign to join with that's why they do all things just to try people convince that they are good and other are the bad ones.

It's been a while and I don't know if your issue is now resolved, but I will still want you to understand that half (if not all the blame) is on you, you made the mistake of sending litecoin from your binance account to bitcoin address on your bitvest account, and you should know that crypto transactions aren't reversible, what exactly were you expecting the admin to do for you? Were you expecting the admin to perform a magic and bring out your litecoin from a bitcoin wallet and put it in your litecoin wallet,? How possible is this? Or   were you expecting them to use their own litecoin to pay you and thereby suffer a loss you brought upon yourself for you?

You made the mistake, you should own up to it, don't blame the customer care who didn't answer you cus he or she assumes you should know there's nothing they can do about your mistake, the money is gone and it's only proper you learn from it and be more careful next time so you don't make that kind of mistake again.

you clearly don't understand how it work, so stop flame on me before you get the real story! I am not asking them to pay me from their money, my coins is already in their hot wallet and of course they have access into it. Don't being a jerk