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Title: How safe is USDT?
Post by: Akash1243 on December 12, 2021, 06:53:38 PM
This is a question i had for a long time,ive seen majority of traders buy and trade crypto through USDT,they just blindly trust it ,as its purpose is that of a stable coin ,i.e. basically a crypto replacement for USD($).
But what if the company behind USDT decides to cheat its holders,is there any way we can find out before a complete disaster? (for e.g. they start minting more coins unnecessarily)
is there any safety mechanism or a red flag indicator before its too late?


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: hosseinimr93 on December 12, 2021, 07:03:37 PM
There is no proof that the issued tokens are backed by real dollar. I wouldn't be surprised if a day USDT tokens lose their value.

The other problem which makes USDT so insecure is that, your tokens can be frozen even at your non-custodial wallet.
For more information about this, I recommend you to read the topic created by mk4. Visit the link below.

[UPDATED] PSA: Most Stablecoins Can Be Frozen, Even in Your Own Wallets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204055.0)


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: manok jepang on December 12, 2021, 07:33:24 PM
This is a question i had for a long time,ive seen majority of traders buy and trade crypto through USDT,they just blindly trust it ,as its purpose is that of a stable coin ,i.e. basically a crypto replacement for USD($).
But what if the company behind USDT decides to cheat its holders,is there any way we can find out before a complete disaster? (for e.g. they start minting more coins unnecessarily)
is there any safety mechanism or a red flag indicator before its too late?


I think all coins have the same risk as USDT, because investing in crypto is a very risky thing, but I am very optimistic that USDT will survive and will continue to make the best contribution to exchange with other altcoins, currently I have never received the problem at all when using usdt as a transaction tool, in my opinion the first step to find out whether a coin will fall is the amount of FUD news,


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: casperBGD on December 12, 2021, 07:58:58 PM
well, USDT is safe as whole crypto industry, if they go down, broader crypto industry will feel it certainly
with that said, I tend to have several stablecoins, that I put my money in, to diversify the risk

there is also DAI, as algorithmic coin, but also AMPL that should be connected to USD in 2019, but obviously have difficulties to hold peg, since there are +/-20+% fluctuations on price


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: Doell on December 12, 2021, 07:59:25 PM
I don't keep usdt for a long terms ,prefer fiat currencies as usd to save money for a long terms in the "market" but not for long also only a few weeks maybe 2 months ! the point is that I don't believe in anything except bitcoin ,it has been post by @hosseinimr93 regarding usdt which means it is clearly very unsafe to save usdt for a long terms "frozen" which means it can't be used if you need it ,whether it can be unfrozen or not I didn't look deeper into usdt


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: vv181 on December 12, 2021, 08:07:20 PM
That is exactly what most people concerned about USDT. Tether has a lack of transparency to audit their reserve fund to match their issued token, and people should be cautious not only by that but also by regulatory issues. I think that there is no way to be able instantaneously to check whether their token matches the reserved fund or not. So I don't think there is a way to find that happening in real-time. So, I think what most people should beware of and think it as a red flag is that USDT has a counter-party risk within it.


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: timerland on December 12, 2021, 08:09:16 PM
This is a question i had for a long time,ive seen majority of traders buy and trade crypto through USDT,they just blindly trust it ,as its purpose is that of a stable coin ,i.e. basically a crypto replacement for USD($).
But what if the company behind USDT decides to cheat its holders,is there any way we can find out before a complete disaster? (for e.g. they start minting more coins unnecessarily)
is there any safety mechanism or a red flag indicator before its too late?

Not safe.

You are much better off if you even just opt for DAI or USDC instead of USDT.

Tether has a track record of fractional reserves which is the exact opposite of decentralized cryptos mantra. It is essentially an interest free loan given to Tether without any protection/collateral for the people who are holding the USDT.


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: Kavelj22 on December 12, 2021, 08:17:42 PM
But what if the company behind USDT decides to cheat its holders,is there any way we can find out before a complete disaster? (for e.g. they start minting more coins unnecessarily)
is there any safety mechanism or a red flag indicator before its too late?

This is the problem for all the stable coins in the crypto market.
First created by Bitfinex exchange, if i am not wrong, claiming to be backed by real USD reserve, then followed by other exchanges who built USDT in other blockchain networks (Tron/Ethereum/BSC/Polygon...). All of them are built using smart contracts, but almost all of them have a set of parameters that allows devs to freeze balances at any time.
Those stable coins are acting as instrument for trading.


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: Silberman on December 12, 2021, 08:50:48 PM
This is a question i had for a long time,ive seen majority of traders buy and trade crypto through USDT,they just blindly trust it ,as its purpose is that of a stable coin ,i.e. basically a crypto replacement for USD($).
But what if the company behind USDT decides to cheat its holders,is there any way we can find out before a complete disaster? (for e.g. they start minting more coins unnecessarily)
is there any safety mechanism or a red flag indicator before its too late?
Stable coins are very unsafe, however they have a reason to be, banks are still very reluctant to accept transactions that deal with cryptocurrencies in most countries around the world, and if we add that their transactions are slow this means that getting in and out of the market of cryptocurrencies can be a pain, so stable coins were created to bridge that gap, however you must never hold those coins for the long term as it is impossible to know when finally the trust in them will evaporate and they will lose their value.


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: livingfree on December 12, 2021, 09:59:54 PM
There's no way to know if a shitstorm is going to happen before you know it.

well, USDT is safe as whole crypto industry, if they go down, broader crypto industry will feel it certainly
with that said, I tend to have several stablecoins, that I put my money in, to diversify the risk

there is also DAI, as algorithmic coin, but also AMPL that should be connected to USD in 2019, but obviously have difficulties to hold peg, since there are +/-20+% fluctuations on price
I agree about DAI, it's a decentralized stable coin. It's a good alternative if someone doesn't like to use USDT.


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: Kelvinid on December 12, 2021, 10:13:07 PM
This is a question i had for a long time,ive seen majority of traders buy and trade crypto through USDT,they just blindly trust it ,as its purpose is that of a stable coin ,i.e. basically a crypto replacement for USD($).
But what if the company behind USDT decides to cheat its holders,is there any way we can find out before a complete disaster? (for e.g. they start minting more coins unnecessarily)
is there any safety mechanism or a red flag indicator before its too late?
We may come to that risk but for many years it existed in crypto and even called stablecoins, I can't even think that way, it was just overly negatively speculated. Because if we all just to think like then, what else we can trust. Who would spend money and risk in crypto? Though we can assure that it was 100% safe, however, I would make myself think that USDT is a safe asset.

If you are doubted about crypto, for everything inside crypto, I guess you don't need to talk like that. As these people place their money in crypto at risk, they are also aware of the possible ends whether it was a bad or good end.


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: Slow death on December 12, 2021, 10:18:40 PM
I think in the following way that for people who have USDT on exchanges to make day trade in case of usdt there is any problem, the exchange will be responsible for changing usdt to another stable currency, I do day trade using usdt because I think that in case of any problem with usdt exchange will have to be responsible. I just don't advise people to buy usdt and keep it in their wallets, that's a big risk


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: makishart on December 12, 2021, 10:38:56 PM
This is a question i had for a long time,ive seen majority of traders buy and trade crypto through USDT,they just blindly trust it ,as its purpose is that of a stable coin ,i.e. basically a crypto replacement for USD($).
Im still trusting USDT and i have been using this for a few years. I have different opinion about that. Sometimes it has a bad and good side. I know that just because tether has ability to frozen the fund and it was not meant if it's a scam.
But what if the company behind USDT decides to cheat its holders,is there any way we can find out before a complete disaster? (for e.g. they start minting more coins unnecessarily)
is there any safety mechanism or a red flag indicator before its too late?
That's a non sense think and why don't you think if all of stable coins have the same possibilities to become another scam project? Any projects have the same possibilities.  There's no way to find that and that's a big difficult. The only best thing if you're feeling doubt with it and don't use it. I think this is the best way to avoid it.


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: josephdd1 on December 13, 2021, 04:11:11 AM
This is a question i had for a long time,ive seen majority of traders buy and trade crypto through USDT,they just blindly trust it ,as its purpose is that of a stable coin ,i.e. basically a crypto replacement for USD($).
But what if the company behind USDT decides to cheat its holders,is there any way we can find out before a complete disaster? (for e.g. they start minting more coins unnecessarily)
is there any safety mechanism or a red flag indicator before its too late?
The main questions regarding USDT are wether it has declared collateral and how it releases new stablecoins. There were a lot of audits, but these questions are still unsolved. People continue using it, because it is the most convenient option. It is supported by all blockchains, most altcoins have pairs with it. Nevertheless, if you need to store your money in stable coins, you should pick up a basket a stable coins.


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: yazher on December 13, 2021, 05:01:10 AM
This is a question i had for a long time,ive seen majority of traders buy and trade crypto through USDT,they just blindly trust it ,as its purpose is that of a stable coin ,i.e. basically a crypto replacement for USD($).
But what if the company behind USDT decides to cheat its holders,is there any way we can find out before a complete disaster? (for e.g. they start minting more coins unnecessarily)
is there any safety mechanism or a red flag indicator before its too late?

To be safe, all you need to do with the USDT is to temporarily convert some of your altcoins or bitcoin to it when the market is congested and after that, you can either convert it back or cash it out as soon as possible. But if you decide to hold it as if you don't think of the other way might happen, then that would be a major risk because USDT is not really decentralized like BTC. anytime it can be completely blocked by its owner and you don't have any idea how hard it to restore it or maybe you will lose your crypto assets forever.


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: kotajikikox on December 13, 2021, 05:16:43 AM
This is a question i had for a long time,ive seen majority of traders buy and trade crypto through USDT,they just blindly trust it ,as its purpose is that of a stable coin ,i.e. basically a crypto replacement for USD($).
But what if the company behind USDT decides to cheat its holders,is there any way we can find out before a complete disaster? (for e.g. they start minting more coins unnecessarily)
is there any safety mechanism or a red flag indicator before its too late?
USDT can be blocked anytime , i mean this can be chat or do anything against the users and supporters in which very risky for our funds.

this is what we can find in USDT so be aware of the possibilities guys when using USDT , try not to be comfortable and never rely big amount of your funds inside this stable coin.

I think in the following way that for people who have USDT on exchanges to make day trade in case of usdt there is any problem, the exchange will be responsible for changing usdt to another stable currency, I do day trade using usdt because I think that in case of any problem with usdt exchange will have to be responsible. I just don't advise people to buy usdt and keep it in their wallets, that's a big risk
that is the same way for me, buying USDT for short term only and never let funds stay longer on this risky currency .


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: lvsca on December 13, 2021, 05:44:56 AM
It should have happened a long time ago. Because currently, the volume in USDT is very large every transaction. Just imagine, who is not tempted by that kind of money. Especially every year it continues to increase. On the other hand, I think USDT has a special system like a one-way algorithm that becomes a powerful code that can not be read by anyone including the USDT workers themselves.


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: Bttzed03 on December 13, 2021, 05:45:49 AM
~ is there any safety mechanism or a red flag indicator before its too late?
You will just have to trust them on that and also the Government overseeing Tether.

I'm sure there are accounts in crypto twitter that follows the minting and burning of USDT from Tether treasury and post it. You can get notifications from them and get information almost instantly. Unfortunately, I forgot their handles.


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: HashingTower on December 13, 2021, 06:05:39 AM
USDT has lots of problem with everything, rumours everywhere that they can't be trusted but yet they are leading the top stable coin chart in the world today, I still use usdt to be honest because if the project is that bad they should be down already, another one is xrp that many hated for no reason or their centralised part until they start showing real usability, we just have to wait and see what will happen


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: Jackl87 on December 13, 2021, 06:50:26 AM
This is a question i had for a long time,ive seen majority of traders buy and trade crypto through USDT,they just blindly trust it ,as its purpose is that of a stable coin ,i.e. basically a crypto replacement for USD($).
But what if the company behind USDT decides to cheat its holders,is there any way we can find out before a complete disaster? (for e.g. they start minting more coins unnecessarily)
is there any safety mechanism or a red flag indicator before its too late?

The safety of USDT is probably one of the most discussed topics within the whole cryptospace and in my opinion the doubts regarding USDTether are definitely justified. Back in 2019 they changed the official wording from "every USDT is backed by a real dollar" to "we have enough reserves to back every USDT minted. So no one really can validate what kind of reserves they are talking about and if they even exist. I personally switched to USDC a while ago.


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: jtipt on December 15, 2021, 08:21:44 AM
USDT is by far the most sketchy stablecoin out there. USDT currently has $76B in circulation and they claim it is backed 1 to 1 to USD, this would mean Tether has $76B cash reserves but it has never released an official audit.

Now the interesting or rather scary part is that every time there is a parabolic move by BTC, USDT issuance also goes parabolic, do they really have that much USD to back tether? Most likely no. USDT mimics USD and fiat's worst property i.e issuance out of thin air.

If and when this likely fraudulent company goes under, the biggest liquidity provider for the crypto market will cease to exist and the effects will be catastrophic. If anything we need to stop using USDT and move towards more transparent and decentralized stablecoins like DAI or UST (terra USD) or even USDC as a centralized stablecoin is a much better alternative than tether.


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: Snappycoco on December 15, 2021, 09:29:17 AM
This is a question i had for a long time,ive seen majority of traders buy and trade crypto through USDT,they just blindly trust it ,as its purpose is that of a stable coin ,i.e. basically a crypto replacement for USD($).
But what if the company behind USDT decides to cheat its holders,is there any way we can find out before a complete disaster? (for e.g. they start minting more coins unnecessarily)
is there any safety mechanism or a red flag indicator before its too late?
There's none. They are minting actually coins almost weeks actually and there no question about it. If ever Tether USDT becomes a disaster, then almost all of crypto market will collapse but I guess global community have to do something about it. We need a stablecoin which is backed by assets except USD. Like a golden standard made by The Standard protocol. You can generate an algorithmic stable coin by locking up your BTC, ETH and other coins that is allowed by The Standard dao. This is the solution of this USDT drama.


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: nimogsm on December 15, 2021, 12:00:26 PM
do not use usdt as long-term savings, if you have a large amount, study what alternatives there are and store them in them so it will be safer.The entire deposit in an ad asset is always a risk, divide it into 2-3 parts.This issue has been repeatedly discussed here on the forum.


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: marcous on December 15, 2021, 12:29:50 PM
USDT has lots of problem with everything, rumours everywhere that they can't be trusted but yet they are leading the top stable coin chart in the world today, I still use usdt to be honest because if the project is that bad they should be down already, another one is xrp that many hated for no reason or their centralised part until they start showing real usability, we just have to wait and see what will happen
And I'm sure nothing bad will happen to USDT, so far the news about USDT has been circulating very widely but I see nothing bad for USDT as well as for XRP which continues to improve even though it has experienced very bad problems.


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: Coin_trader on December 15, 2021, 12:33:48 PM
This is a question i had for a long time,ive seen majority of traders buy and trade crypto through USDT,they just blindly trust it ,as its purpose is that of a stable coin ,i.e. basically a crypto replacement for USD($).
But what if the company behind USDT decides to cheat its holders,is there any way we can find out before a complete disaster? (for e.g. they start minting more coins unnecessarily)
is there any safety mechanism or a red flag indicator before its too late?

USDT is famous for printing money out of thin air. There's no way prove immediately all the red flags unless the law force them to submit a mandatory financial audit for every token they are printing. But they will not cheat blatantly considering how famous there token already and the amount of profit they are getting by just minting it. Imagine you are the owner of this stablecoin and you know that your product is the number one in the whole crypto market, Do you think you will destroy a long term profit in exchange to a quick bucks that full of risk from authority?


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: Godwinpaul on December 15, 2021, 12:53:20 PM
We've heard diverse opinions about the validity and reliability of USDT, but that doesn't change the fact that USDT is the best we've got. I understand that there may be some questionable trait as to whether USDT is backed with the dollar equivalent of the market capitalisation, but it's really not important to me. USDT has been serving its purpose in the cryptocurrency market for quite a while now and I don't see that ending soon.


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: mdzahed134 on December 15, 2021, 05:04:36 PM
I think USDT is so much controversial in stable coin and large number of people don't trust this coin because of it’s past history (you know can be freeze at any moment) But it’s true that still this coin is most using in crypto trading. But long term holding might be risk, and big amount holders should pick others stable coin such as USDC is my favorite.


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: Jose Mourinho on December 15, 2021, 05:22:35 PM
USDT has lots of problem with everything, rumours everywhere that they can't be trusted but yet they are leading the top stable coin chart in the world today, I still use usdt to be honest because if the project is that bad they should be down already, another one is xrp that many hated for no reason or their centralised part until they start showing real usability, we just have to wait and see what will happen


I don't see usdt being in trouble at the moment, but what I do know is that usdt is always hit by bad news about PUD, so many crypto users doubt the potential of usdt, but if you research deeply then you will find out how big of a prospect the usdt has, evidence the most obvious thing is that until now usdt still survives and is the best stablecoin in crypto, I personally always use usdt as a medium of exchange and have never experienced any problems at all,


Title: Re: How safe is USDT?
Post by: Silberman on December 15, 2021, 09:57:42 PM
USDT has lots of problem with everything, rumours everywhere that they can't be trusted but yet they are leading the top stable coin chart in the world today, I still use usdt to be honest because if the project is that bad they should be down already, another one is xrp that many hated for no reason or their centralised part until they start showing real usability, we just have to wait and see what will happen
If the community does not like a project you can be sure there is something wrong with it and eventually something could happen to it, and what better example than what happened to bitconnect, the community warned everyone that would listen that it was a scam but many people decide to ignore the warnings and think of them as unfounded, and then suddenly one day bitconnect crashed and it never recovered, USDT is not as bad as bitconnect was, but there are reasons to think it is not as good of a project as people think, and as such it is a good idea to stay away from it if you can.