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I'm in beginner stage at trading . Recently I loose about 80$ . It is a  huge amount for me . But I wanna try again
Now I need some advice for me . I also have some questions about trading.

1.My 1st question is about which trading strategy  is good for a new traders ? I mean short term  or long term.

2.  In short-term trading, when to buy and when to sell ?

3.  In short-term trading, do I need to sell the coin  on the day ?


I hope these questions answer and advise could help me to know some good things about trading and helping to choose the right trading strategy at this stage  and others like me.

Short-term, you can get profit from trading
Long-term, you mostly end with loses from trading

If it is long-term, it is easier, more comfortable and more profitable if you do with investment. Investment is different than gambling. I meant if you intend to do long term investment, you must start with your in-depth research about projects. Then if you conclude it is good and believe in it, you can allocate your capital into it as one of your long term investment.

To be safe, just in case all things go wrong and worse than any of your expectation, don't all in!
Let's allocate a big budget for your daily expenses in about 1 or 2 years which is enough time for bear market to finish.

Imagine, you allocate all money you have at $10000, then in bear market, it is divided 10 times to $1000 and if you don't have other budget to pay daily expenses, you will have to sell part of it to use. Assume you sell $100 for such purpose, it equals to $1000 in your initial capital. That is painful!

Here's the answer:
1. Depends on you.
2. Depends on you.
3. Depends on you.

There's no good or bad answer since it's really depends on the coin you bought and timing. Let's say you bought new listed coins, when the price multiply x100 in a day you'll sell it and then thought short term trading is good. While when you bought Bitcoin, the price dropped in a day but you continued to hold until 1 month. After a month the price increase +20% then you'll sell it and call long term trading is good. Don't forget you may lose in both strategy too.

You sound like you are getting ready to lose again.

With the experiences of following many beginners here, I like to suggest you NOT to go back to trading again.
Trading may be possible for you only after months long preparation.

One simple strategy to recover your losses and to make profits:
With the capital that you have planned trading, buy bitcoin only for 50% of your capital. Wait for 15 days and then buy again for another 50% of remaining amount. (Means if you have $100 then buy bitcoin for $50 and after 15 days buy again for another $25 and keep doing for 50% of your available capital for every 15 days and also add new funds to your capital).

If you are able to hold your nerves for next 4 to 6 months then you may get at least 2x profits and if you are able to hold for next 4 years then you can see more than 5x growth for all your money.

Think over and plan up but never try for any short term trading with any strategy.

Seems that you made a two-words long typo twice :D.

Sorry for the loss, but traders are likely to still lose more, use the amount you can afford to lose to trade. Use small amount for many months and see the outcome. Experience all types of trading and later choose the one best for you.

Long term is better short term is far riskier.

In short term, it is still good to buy when the price of the coin taken have reduced and sell when price have already increased. Know that this does not mean you will gain in short term but this might help in making some profit, but the profit is not guaranteed until you have enough experience which can reduce loss if compared to profit.

The best trading are swing and holding which bus not categorised into trading.

Short term trading can be within few weeks or less than a day. You mean day trading, okay it should not be more than days but there are times it might be more than but still within short time.

I remembered when I was in your shoe, but I lose more. Be very careful and use the amount of money you can afford to lose to trade, later the outcome will determine if you will increase your trading capital.

There are strategies that are safer than others with reasonable profit and since you are a beginner it is better to learn the easy strategies and by developing yourself a little you will be able to make all the difficult strategies easy.


Before you start learning to trade, you should know the basics, such as how to create a wallet, protect your private key, reduce fees when sending, CEX & DEX platforms and the best suitable platform based on your country and payment method.


I recommend you to watch @aantonop YouTube channel^[1] to learn the technical aspects, and then you can ask here about the best platform for you.

Now let's talk about the trading side:

 - Dollar-Cost Averaging (DCA)^[2]: It's perfect and simple, set a specific day and then buy a fixed amount of bitcoin.
 - DCA with support and resistance points: it is a little more difficult and instead of setting a fixed time, you rely on the support and resistance points^[3].
 - Buying at once: It depends on the price collapse by more than 20%.
 - Day trading: It is the most dangerous way and the difference between the prices of cryptocurrencies during the day.
 - Leverage and Margin, DeFi and Low MarketCap cryptos: Not recommended.


[1] https://www.youtube.com/user/aantonop
[2] https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/dollarcostaveraging
[3] in short, when the price drops by more than 15%, you buy more

1. The best would be the one that you've tried and ended up with better amounts of success compared to other strategies.

2. ..it depends on your strategy

3. "Short-term" can span from mere minutes to a span of days

Of course, as a newbie here in this industry dude, while you are in the stage of learning in the crypto space better to to put yourself here in the long term, because if you choose into a short term trading losing your coins probably may happen to you most of the time 100%, and that we want to avoid it as a newbie.

A good subreddit to start from in your trading journey since most of your question are already answered on their wiki and the only thing that you need is time and dedication to read them like a bible.

[1] https://reddit.com/r/RealDayTrading/w/index?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app

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That depends on your trading strategy, some people prefer daytrading, swing trading, or scalping where each of them have different duration in terms of holding their position in an exchange.

But technically, crypto market does not sleep so holding your position for a long period of time doesn't matter.

New traders of course must start from the basic or core of trading.
Support & resistance, if you are a newbie you must understand first this one of the basics.

And another thing that most the newbies ignored or don't really practice is risk management, this will help you to preserve your capital, minimizing your losses and maximizing profits, this is involve how to properly use your trading size, stop losses and take profits.

It depends on you. Short term itself does not mean you have to sell a coin in a day. If you are in profit already and you assume that price is still in your favour and you want to maximize it then you can allow it to roll out more profit but you have to safeguard the already made profit by making adjustment of your take profit and shift it to the entry price. By this strategy,  your are sure that you have secured yourself from any lose on that particular coin trading as short term.

1. Medium-term strategy will fit you but I will not say that is good or best because that will depend on your experience and skills. For example, you buy at a low price and sell at a high price. But in this situation, you can not expect to sell in the next hour because sometimes, you need to wait for a day or some time.

2. Same answer as number one. As long as you can buy at a low price and sell at a high price, you are good.

3. In the short term, you can buy and sell the coin hourly or daily, depending on the market movements. If the market movement is good, you do not have to wait long to sell the coin.

4. The most important thing that every trader must know is that they must control their greed. You do not have to expect to make a big profit in a day, but feeling satisfied with your profit will be necessary to prevent you from chasing your greediness.

1. Either would work, it's really up to what you are able to do and what best fits your time, and what mostly works for you. I'd suggest short term if you have a lot of free time to study the market, and long term if you don't.
2. Again, that's up to you, though the simple strategy would be to buy low sell high.
3. No, not really, it can span to a week or a month if that's what you want. There's really no strict "requirement" when your trading and you want to call it short-term trading

Most of your questions OP are pretty much subjective in answers, there's really no best set of answers other than what you believe in. I'd suggest just trying stuff around for a few months, then try to determine what best fits in your current lifestyle.

1. I'm a long term so I'll say that long term is really good and effective for me and try it, maybe you're for the long term.
2. This is a question that only you can see how it's being done. You'll get similar answers like buying during the dip and selling at the peak and when you're in profit.
3. You have to sell when you're in profit and you have to set a target.

You should go with short term trading, I am not referring to scalping form of trading but strategy that you will enable you to trade using a minimum of 4 hour time frame , you can try some YouTube trading channels and pick one of the numerous strategies, work on it practice with demo when consistent in profit making, go live again however you should learn how to take your profits swiftly due to high volatility in the price of cryptocurrencies else a profiting live trade can reverse and end in a loss and always deploy stop loss in all your trades to minimize your risk.

OP, if $80.00 is a huge amount for you, then you should stop gambling and keep the money for other more important things in your life. Are you a student? Find any job, work hard, save, and if the current cycle follows the halving cycles during 2016 and 2020, you should buy Bitcoin DIPs of 2023 with your savings. Happy new year.

Well depending on his start up capital he might see the loss of $80,00 as huge and despite the amount being small or big, I know that you can carefully build a very small amount of money into millions  so it doesn't depends on the capital of a trader to know or see how successful the trade can be

Start with Spot trading if your a newbie and no any knowledge about Technical Analysis, you can go for a short term first to test if this is working and try to learn the basic support/resistance with rsi. The most important is to learn a proper timing when to buy and sell, that indicators I suggest will help you decide so you have learn it first before trying anything.

From your narration, I am sure that you are not no more a new trader; you are intermediately experienced trader even you are re-starting your trading. You should go for self-analysing your past experiences to figure out that crypto trading is suitable for you or not. But, in my understanding from what you have stated above, I guess it would be the right tie for you to switch over to crypto investments rather than keep trying and keep losing your hard earned money.

I am not anything anything new after lots of people suggested about investing into bitcoin for long term plans; otherwise you must trade for long term based trading rather than looking for short targets. You can easily plan up long term trading with bitcoin if you develop patience to catch bottom and top of bitcoin market. Just go through this forum and lots of people already changed their fate by leaving of their trading plans and you can be a newer one to join that group of people.

I also think long term trading will work on you as it has less risk compared to short term trading. As long as you have patience to hold, you will always be good and profitable when it comes to long term trading.

However, if you go for short term trading, the risk is even higher but its still a good way to make profits as long as you are capable to make profits in a consistent way. Its always a good buying moment when the prices are in dips and definitely perfect time to sell when bull run hits the market or when the coins reaches their new ATH. Of course, never sell at a losing price. Just sell when you think you'll be in profits.

I think for new traders longer-term trading is always better than doing short-term trading. The reason is simple it's hard to control your emotions when you are sitting all the time in front of your PC, while it's relatively easy to control it in long-term trading. Talking about strategies that you need to create buy or sell triggers, First of all, learn a set of indicators that you want to use in your trading, experiment with settings of these indicators or other indicators whichever suits your style the best, backtest and forward test the same and you are good to go. Short term at least in crypto doesn't always mean selling on the same day. It just means selling in a short span of time can be a day or two.

I never recommend anyone to go for short term trading because it may look easier theoretically but when come about live market then you will never able to find the dips easily; even if your technical analysis indicates about dips but when market keep moving down then you will get trapped; so even with the help of technical analysis we cannot make profit in short term trading but in long term trading you can wait so that market will bounce back to get you profits which is the biggest advantage.

This is the reason most people are always suggesting to go for long term trading because here you are having unlimited time and giving market to react in-between that time.

^ I would go if long-term trading and while waiting for my profit I will explore more about trading strategy or the best is if you have fund enough, do 30% of your holding is on short-term trading. Trading is not just an easy way of making money and there is no guarantee that it will return your capital, it will always involve risk when we talk about financial matters.
If you know which exchange platform has copy trading then I would go, copy trading is the easiest trading that you need to choose on which portfolio do you copy. The market price is unpredictable and if you have a good sense of speculating then I probably would go with you.

Yes, it has been working for me and that's why I'm staying with this strategy. It's the reason why I've enjoyed my profits although there are also too many bad decisions I've made which have lost me a lot in profits. But I have to move on and just look at the most positive things in my investments and those are with the profits and not with the loss. Those losses are not really losses because it's to me that I've got lesser profit instead but many of us considers it as losses.

That's right long-term trading is the best way for new traders since they haven't had any experience yet on day trading which is exhausting by the way, if you are not used to it. Short or day trading is just for someone who has an experience in a moving market that knows when to sell and when to buy. Of course, anyone can do it but it takes time and effort to get used to it and besides, there's nothing wrong also if you choose longer-term investment/trading method since I can say it's the most safest way to earn a profit.

Don't focus on day trade, long term or short term trade. Maybe try to challenge yourself, for example study about the support and resistance and within this day you should only rely on support and resistance to get used to it or to be familiar with it and another day you should add another indicator or tool that would help you with trading. With that you are not just only experiencing trading but also applying the things you have learn into real trading.

I would say go with short term trading as you do not want to hold trades for a very long time as compared to long term trading.... But not to write this trading strategy off so soon, this has its advantages if you have a larger capital and saves you the screen time of always looking at charts but it all comes down to preference!

Well its not about guessing the market direction that will make you profits you need to be able to have the technical knowledge of how to read charts before you embark on this journey which is the time consuming part otherwise you buy low and sell high same rules always.

We can't skip to it as most of these newbies wanted a profit as fast as they can, they feel bord waiting long to make it and they likely preferred for day-trading which I believe was riskier than long-term investing. Of course, we know it since we have some experience and it wasn't a quite better move to make it fast and think easy but it rather makes these newbies learn on their own and decide which path to follow either choosing for long-term or short-term trading.

I certainly agree with this. The strategy that you would apply will still depend on you as well as your skills. If you're having a hard time deciding on what to do, then try to apply at least the basic strategy of trading which is to buy low and sell high. Trading is a long process of learning, you couldn't pick any specific strategy unless you research or study everything about it. I would suggest that you acquire more knowledge for you to apply strategies easier.

I tend to agree with that too, it's all matters about OP's skills, knowledge, and on which side OPs are capable of when it comes to trading.
And that's the right answer, it depends on OP that we should know, if it's totally new in trading it's most likely will take time for OP to absorb those strategies that may learn through experience.  Experience is the best teacher as most experts say and I believed in that.

It's really hard to learn those strategies in trading while you're a newbie, it needs time for you to study and have an actual practice most especially when it comes to technical and fundamental analysis.  Find a good exchange that has a feature of demo trading, I think that's the best strategy to boost your ability in trading.

Alternatively, we have books, tutorial videos, and blogs that explained very well in trading.  But all of these didn't have an assurance that it will work 100%, it could be your preference in having DYOR.

Moving average crossover based strategy might get you positive results in long terms and for short term, I never recommend anyone to try due to its known pitfalls. Better adapt any long term strategy and try to maximize your profits by incorporating candle stick patterns and other tools along with.

It will be based on where your technical signals about to enter and exit. There cannot be any general timing or price level to buy and sell but you need to follow you analysis.

You can convert your short term trading into long term based on spot exchanges hence there will be no compulsion to sell within a day when you are trading at spot markets.

A trader does need skill, knowledge, and experience to trade. long-term trades may be safer than short-term for beginners because that way they have a longer time to hold them. other than that, it would be better if you hold or trade-in coins that have good prospects to minimize big losses. but if you want to make short-term trades it means you have to be prepared to choose coins that have good prospects in the near future. a novice trader certainly experiences failure or profits, it all depends on how we save and manage our own trades.

I would say if you really want to learn how to trade, start by trading on large timelines. Meaning do not do day trading or even hour trading or any short term length trading, because emotions will grab hold of you and you will lose money. I say monthly trading and if your coin goes down, do not sell but hodl. Otherwise just buy dips and sell tops. As to where the dips and tops are, look at RSI and heiken ashi candles.

Hodling also has a good strategy to making profit. Yes like hodling coins that have active community. They can pump the coin at anytime that you didn't expect. Therefore is better in such hodling to stay in there telegram group to know what is being discussed there. If a coin is getting listed in a new exchange and a big one, it usually attracts new investors and that will increase the price. This is a strategy of hodling and profiting in a coin.

I am really very Overwhelmed you guys so nice , Thanks to everyone for giving me your important opinions.
 I think I salready enough help and advice from you so I should locked this topic now .
Thanks again to everyone ❤️