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Title: Some info about spammer warning...
Post by: laredo7mm on February 03, 2022, 01:00:02 PM
I know there are some rules for controlling spam posters in the forum. Users could be limited for any new post for 7, 14, or 30 days prior to a permanent ban as a warning. Is there any way users can find out how many times they were warned before? As I can remember I was also warned one or two times a long time ago but can not remember exactly for how many days.


Title: Re: Some info about spammer warning...
Post by: Little Mouse on February 03, 2022, 01:19:04 PM
I don’t think it's available on smf while in some forum software, users can see how and where they got the warning. Here in smf, more specifically, in bitcointalk, I think only mod can see it. You can't find it anywhere.


Title: Re: Some info about spammer warning...
Post by: sheenshane on February 03, 2022, 02:52:50 PM
You must be alarmed seeing your profile there are more than 50+ deleted posts by the moderators and upon having quick research on your profile, you have 387 deleted (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=315682) posts based on bpip.org.  It's alarming and maybe starting from now avoid spamming.

If you read this,
Campaign Participants:

Staff do not want to hand out bans for unconstructive posts but if we feel that you as a user are continually making very poor or unsubstantial posts due to your paid signature the following bans will be issued:

First offence: 7 days
Second offence: 14 days
Third offence: 30 days
Fourth: Permanent ban
It's until a fourth offense and I think 1 to 2 offenses have made sense to warn you.  Maybe only moderators have known this feature and AFAIK, I didn't read it here how to determine how many offenses you currently have before the permaban will occur.  Let's just wait if mods will disclose this matter.


Title: Re: Some info about spammer warning...
Post by: Upgrade00 on February 03, 2022, 03:02:10 PM
Is there any way users can find out how many times they were warned before? As I can remember I was also warned one or two times a long time ago but can not remember exactly for how many days.
No, I do not believe there is anyway to check how many times you have been banned before on the forum. The knowledge that you have been banned previously before should be enough warning to avoid the practices that actually caused you the temporary ban.
 


Title: Re: Some info about spammer warning...
Post by: BitMaxz on February 03, 2022, 03:33:27 PM
Users could be limited for any new post for 7, 14, or 30 days prior to a permanent ban as a warning.

I think you talking about a temporary ban as a warning 7,14 or 30 days of account suspended.

There is no way to know how many times you'll be warned and I think it depends on how serious your violation is. If you keep spamming for no reason well you will end up permanently banned.

If you want to avoid a permanent ban always follow the forum rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0) and nothing else.


Title: Re: Some info about spammer warning...
Post by: Lucius on February 03, 2022, 03:48:17 PM
Does the user not be notified that he has been banned through private messages with some generic message similar to when a post was deleted? I can’t say if that’s the case because I’ve never been banned, but if everyone is informed about it, then the evidence is in private messages.


Title: Re: Some info about spammer warning...
Post by: KingsDen on February 03, 2022, 04:49:41 PM
Does the user not be notified that he has been banned through private messages with some generic message similar to when a post was deleted? I can’t say if that’s the case because I’ve never been banned, but if everyone is informed about it, then the evidence is in private messages.
Exactly my thought. Every warning comes through pm or mail as the case may be. A little search in your inbox should reveal it to you.
Then, some crimes are committed unknowingly and can be pardoned.
But according to you, you have been warned previously, it will be nice if change from the habit that makes them warn you, especially now that you made the post open.


Title: Re: Some info about spammer warning...
Post by: BitMaxz on February 03, 2022, 11:40:37 PM
Exactly my thought. Every warning comes through pm or mail as the case may be. A little search in your inbox should reveal it to you.
Then, some crimes are committed unknowingly and can be pardoned.
But according to you, you have been warned previously, it will be nice if change from the habit that makes them warn you, especially now that you made the post open.

I think you are talking about deleted posts but it's not actually telling you that you are spamming. Mods probably deleted posts for so many reasons based on the forum rules and people who reported your post.

You will only be notified and warned if you receive a PM that you are temporary ban and a red text under your account like the image below

https://i.ibb.co/n3vQ6T7/EA1-C00-D0-7-EEC-477-C-A3-F7-0-FABAE67164-F.jpg
Source: 7 days Ban Appeal (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234398)

That should be the warning before you are permanently banned.

Also, take note of PMs from newbies you probably get them if you receive a PM from newbies. Look at the image below but this shouldn't be related to this topic.
https://i.imgur.com/09CeygH.png


Title: Re: Some info about spammer warning...
Post by: Welsh on February 04, 2022, 12:20:37 AM
You will only be notified and warned if you receive a PM that you are temporary ban and a red text under your account like the image below
While this might be true in some cases, having a lot of posts deleted, especially when it makes up a large percentage of what you've posted in total, should be considered a warning. It might not have explicitly been a personalied message from a moderator, but having a large share of your posts deleted should start the alarm bells ringing, since it likely indicates your posts aren't up to the standards of the forum guidelines.

At that point, I would advise checking the rules, and altering whatever you think might be the problem immediately. Of course, if you seek clarification you can always ask a moderator.


Title: Re: Some info about spammer warning...
Post by: BITCOIN4X on February 04, 2022, 04:17:06 AM
It might not have explicitly been a personalied message from a moderator, but having a large share of your posts deleted should start the alarm bells ringing, since it likely indicates your posts aren't up to the standards of the forum guidelines.

At that point, I would advise checking the rules, and altering whatever you think might be the problem immediately. Of course, if you seek clarification you can always ask a moderator.
What about the deletion of posts by the user himself, will that also affect the stats of the deleted posts?
Also, is there a specific number that determines how many posts deleted by a moderator will receive a temporary ban warning? Looks like we need to know a little bit about this.


Title: Re: Some info about spammer warning...
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on February 04, 2022, 05:42:55 AM

What about the deletion of posts by the user himself, will that also affect the stats of the deleted posts?
Also, is there a specific number that determines how many posts deleted by a moderator will receive a temporary ban warning? Looks like we need to know a little bit about this.

I do not think that your deleted posts can negatively affect the future of the account. On the contrary, self-cleaning posts that are not helpful can only help the forum. Delete all your old bounty reports, for example, if you are a bounty hunter.
Bpip.org keeps statistics that show how many messages were deleted by moderators and how many by users themselves.

https://bpip.org/Profile?id=1903411
https://i.ibb.co/F7zYpvb/Screenshot.png (https://imgbb.com/)

https://bpip.org/Profile?id=955510
https://i.ibb.co/jTbmBKh/Screenshot.png (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: Some info about spammer warning...
Post by: Coyster on February 04, 2022, 06:26:49 AM
What about the deletion of posts by the user himself, will that also affect the stats of the deleted posts?
It won't, if I understood what you meant as "stats of the deleted posts" to mean whether you'll get into trouble cause you have so many posts deleted (correct me if I'm wrong). users can decide to delete some of their posts they prolly made in the past that they now consider unhelpful and somewhat of a shitpost, I don't think there's anything wrong in that. But then it could also be obnoxious and even an offense if for example the user is on a signature campaign, deletes most of the posts he made in the previous week, to post them them in the current week, that's unethical and can cause problems for such user, thus I can say it's down to the intent of the user, why actually are they deleting their posts, are they turning a new leaf or trying to cheat.
Also, is there a specific number that determines how many posts deleted by a moderator will receive a temporary ban warning? Looks like we need to know a little bit about this.
I don't think there is an actual specific number, it's prolly something 'arbitrary' on the part of the moderator, if a user has constantly had quite a lot of posts deleted, then they can give them a ban to see if they would stop shitposting, I also think it could also go down to rank or usefulness of a user, for example a user who has been on the forum for a while, posting fairly good stuff and some shitposts in between that gets deleted all the time, that user would prolly not receive a temporary ban sooner than a newbie who prolly just got to the forum and started posting shit from the beginning.


Title: Re: Some info about spammer warning...
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on February 04, 2022, 09:24:36 AM
The deleted posts, should be enough warning. The only thing that I would like to see is a link to the rules in the automated forum message. This is the best way to warn the users and push them to read the rules..
Here is an example of a deleted message I had.

Quote from: Bitcoin Forum
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

Quote
2021.02.04 I use my binance account withdrawal to freebitcoin account. Maybe I can use my binance account withdrawal some amount again to Prove that freebitcoin is my own.  Is this okay?

Dear, posting here will not help you at all, this thread is only for helping people sign a message from an address of which they own the private keys.

Your case is completely different. I suggest as others already did, Ask those questions in Freebitco.in's thread. There is where you can get help.

Ask the support if sending a small amount of btc from the mentioned address on binance will be accepted as prove of ownership, but again these questions you should direct to the FREEBITCOIN SUPPORT!!

I will have to report your posts here, because they are off-topic.
This post will also be removed.

If it could be something like this no need to have any more warnings >

Quote from: Bitcoin Forum
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted, and read the Unofficial Rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0) and Newbies' Guidelines (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0) before posting.

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Title: Re: Some info about spammer warning...
Post by: Findingnemo on February 04, 2022, 09:32:07 AM
AFAIK, it depends on case by case and mod decides how many temporary ban maybe given before going for the permanent ban but no one is actually got permanent ban just for spamming either hundreds of posts deleted in a day or so they will be given 2 weeks or 30days ban and only the moderator, admin and the user know it since its not publicly recorded in the modlog.


Title: Re: Some info about spammer warning...
Post by: LoyceV on February 04, 2022, 11:47:10 AM
I know there are some rules for controlling spam posters in the forum. Users could be limited for any new post for 7, 14, or 30 days prior to a permanent ban as a warning. Is there any way users can find out how many times they were warned before?
Why do you ask? Will you behave better if you know you're at your last change? And if you have 2 more temporary bans to go, will you spam more?


Title: Re: Some info about spammer warning...
Post by: laredo7mm on February 04, 2022, 02:59:35 PM
I know there are some rules for controlling spam posters in the forum. Users could be limited for any new post for 7, 14, or 30 days prior to a permanent ban as a warning. Is there any way users can find out how many times they were warned before?
Why do you ask? Will you behave better if you know you're at your last change? And if you have 2 more temporary bans to go, will you spam more?

It was more than a year I think I was warned but the mod hasn't told me anything specifically what was wrong with my post. So I tried to improve the quality of my post since then and till now I haven't faced any problem. But I do not know if I am still violating any rules. I love this forum not only can earn some money by signature but the knowledge and experience I gained are priceless. So I just don't want anything to happen to my account and am eager to improve more if still didn't reach that standard.


Title: Re: Some info about spammer warning...
Post by: Odusko on February 04, 2022, 05:29:30 PM
I know there are some rules for controlling spam posters in the forum. Users could be limited for any new post for 7, 14, or 30 days prior to a permanent ban as a warning. Is there any way users can find out how many times they were warned before? As I can remember I was also warned one or two times a long time ago but can not remember exactly for how many days.
Have not being warned before,and i prayed it doesnt happen in future ,it will be good not to have any ban be it temporary or permanent, its better to abide with the rules of the forum rather than being banned.


Title: Re: Some info about spammer warning...
Post by: BITCOIN4X on February 04, 2022, 07:43:14 PM
I do not think that your deleted posts can negatively affect the future of the account. On the contrary, self-cleaning posts that are not helpful can only help the forum. Delete all your old bounty reports, for example, if you are a bounty hunter.
Bpip.org keeps statistics that show how many messages were deleted by moderators and how many by users themselves.
So only posts deleted by mods will be counted, I hope that's true especially if we receive the notification email. I also noticed that the number of deleted posts in bpip for my profile had no effect if I deleted the posts themselves. Several times I've also noticed that when a moderator deletes a thread where my post exists, the number doesn't increase either.

It won't, if I understood what you meant as "stats of the deleted posts" to mean whether you'll get into trouble cause you have so many posts deleted (correct me if I'm wrong).
Nothing, I don't have a lot of posts that I delete myself. There were only 28 posts that I deleted when I was not accepted in the campaign especially application posts. I don't have a habit of deleting my regular posts.

I don't think there is an actual specific number, it's prolly something 'arbitrary' on the part of the moderator,
Although it's not the mod that answered, but I believe your answer is self-explanatory.


Title: Re: Some info about spammer warning...
Post by: rhomelmabini on February 04, 2022, 09:23:16 PM
I know there are some rules for controlling spam posters in the forum. Users could be limited for any new post for 7, 14, or 30 days prior to a permanent ban as a warning. Is there any way users can find out how many times they were warned before? As I can remember I was also warned one or two times a long time ago but can not remember exactly for how many days.
Nada, there's nothing that warns about it. If you can remember how did you get the warn or what triggers the warn from a moderator then try to change it or be mindful the next time around. If it's about spamming then better to improve your posts quality or post always on topic, nothing that difficult to understand.