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Title: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: tabigod on February 11, 2022, 04:51:51 AM
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Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: Bttzed03 on February 11, 2022, 05:42:03 AM
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Bets Won: 29
Bets lost: 33
Although your win ratio is pretty high, don't place 'guaranteed profit' in your betting pick service. According to your table, you ended up with over $900 profits but that's because you placed higher bets to cover your losses in previous matches. I assume you will keep on doing the same thing over and over again until you get unlucky and ran out of money.


Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: tabigod on February 11, 2022, 05:45:44 AM
You never run out of money if you follow our money management instructions, for example the bets on the spreadsheet are with a bankrol of $5000. All about discipline and money management.

1 Year and a half into betting, and never 'lost all my money' as you said. 


Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: Bttzed03 on February 11, 2022, 06:24:00 AM
You never run out of money if you follow our money management instructions, for example the bets on the spreadsheet are with a bankrol of $5000. All about discipline and money management.
In your bets from Feb. 6 to Feb 7, what would you have done if you also lost the $2350? Would you increase the bet again in the next match or start over again with a small amount ($25)?

1 Year and a half into betting, and never 'lost all my money' as you said.
Well, good for you. Would you still say for sure you'll have guaranteed profits in the next years to come? That's my main issue with your post.

If you still insist with that, would you be willing to set up an escrow for the refund in case of no profit in 7 days?


Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: rhomelmabini on February 11, 2022, 07:08:48 AM
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Bets Won: 29
Bets lost: 33
Although your win ratio is pretty high, don't place 'guaranteed profit' in your betting pick service. According to your table, you ended up with over $900 profits but that's because you placed higher bets to cover your losses in previous matches. I assume you will keep on doing the same thing over and over again until you get unlucky and ran out of money.
Pretty scary seems like a normal prediction to me with a huge risky appetite. To OP, how does profit be guaranteed in the first place and why is there a refund if users will just follow your bets? From what I understand, users will trust their money to yours?


Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: bittraffic on February 11, 2022, 09:00:59 AM

46% win ratio really looks like you are going to win a lot but you did because of the amount you bet. Seem a martingale kind. You ask $20 for our discord channel?

Most will probably just bet on the sports they follow or play themselves. This might just work for some gamblers who are not really into the sports and has no idea which to bet. Today how many users did subscribe?


Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: VanityWallets2015 on February 11, 2022, 11:23:06 AM
That was a good offer, no profit in 7 days 100% it looks like you are confident with your bets I would like to ask what is your strategy for the players for example 10% of their fund to place bet and if lose use double it or you only ask them to place fixed amount for example $100 per bets no matter if it is 3x lose in a row?

Edit:

Just looked at your list I see that you are using martingale system on bets.


Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: tabigod on February 11, 2022, 12:36:15 PM
The players are adviced to use 0,50% of their bankroll. In this case if a lose streak happens, money can be recovered just how we did in the past 10 days.


Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: Wexnident on February 11, 2022, 01:59:00 PM
You never run out of money if you follow our money management instructions, for example the bets on the spreadsheet are with a bankrol of $5000. All about discipline and money management.

1 Year and a half into betting, and never 'lost all my money' as you said. 
That could also be taken as you never earn money no? The effect is simply breaking even in most, if not all scenarios. Never losing money doesn't mean it's a guaranteed profit after all. Might just be OP using different words, but it can be used as a play on words tbh, to make users misunderstand the terms of what OP is providing. Honestly, I'd follow bttzed's recommendation about an escrow if you really are willing to do the 100% refund. Otherwise, I highly doubt people would be willing to risk their money.


Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: tabigod on February 28, 2022, 09:01:36 PM
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Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: bitbollo on February 28, 2022, 10:24:49 PM
My suggestions, and some comments below...
Please note, I am posting for free a selection of my bets from some years :) here on forum and I have won several prize on tipster competition with defunct DirectBet (With my score I collect the second place on hall of fame).

GOOD
- You have placed bets with "relative higher odds"
- Your bets "should be placed" pre match
- You seems determined in offer that service with nice condition/track history for user

BAD
- we cannot have a confirmation :( of when you made a prediction (you can create a table only for justify your track record....)
- you have as little as 24 days as "track history". It's not enough to offer a service (at least to me :) )
- most of your bets are just "martingale" to recover some of your loss
- You can achieve a little profit of 1 cent and no refund for gamblers :( (with previous point it's obviously you will win always just double your bet!)
- You are not using an escrow but you make some bombastic claim
- there is no explanation of your choice. It seems you take obviously match (under 2.00) and place a bet.

SUGGESTIONS
-Use a timestamps for your predictions (and maybe offer some for free)
-USE ESCROW! You don't have any previous history or reputation here on forum and I cannot trust some one in that condition.
-Before selling a service you must show proofs of your ability. There are gamblers active from years here on forum (with trackrecord) that don't ask money since they now that gambling... well... is gambling even for good tipsters :)
- explain your bet! let people understand how you make your choice
-  offer an escrow for your service (repetita iuvant) since if you're targeting noobs of this industry ....


Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: davis196 on March 01, 2022, 05:55:23 AM
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-Use a timestamps for your predictions (and maybe offer some for free)
-USE ESCROW! You don't have any previous history or reputation here on forum and I cannot trust some one in that condition.
-Before selling a service you must show proofs of your ability. There are gamblers active from years here on forum (with trackrecord) that don't ask money since they now that gambling... well... is gambling even for good tipsters Smiley
- explain your bet! let people understand how you make your choice
-  offer an escrow for your service (repetita iuvant) since if you're targeting noobs of this industry ....

These are some really good suggestions,but I'm sure that OP would never agree to these conditions.
Probably 99% of the tipsters are really desperate for the newbie money,that are coming from the paid subscriptions.Those tipsters aren't making any serious money with their own bets.If they were really making serious money with their own bets,they would have shown a valid proof,because in this business,a valid proof is everything.
Screenshots aren't a valid proof,because they can be faked.
I'm not sure if this "100% refund,if you don't make any profits in 7 days" statement is even legit.Does anyone have received a refund,after not making any profits from using OP's services?Please post here.



Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: YOSHIE on March 01, 2022, 07:14:27 AM
You never run out of money if you follow our money management instructions, for example the bets on the spreadsheet are with a bankrol of $5000. All about discipline and money management.

1 Year and a half into betting, and never 'lost all my money' as you said. 
that applies to you, it's a different story for us, it is realistic to predict sports betting where the income you get is quite double, but the risk is very high.

I only suggest to the community here, if you want to place sports bets you should consider Internet access, time, math, concentration and professional, Of course you must have a fairly good knowledge of sports, otherwise don't try to do it the risk of losing is quite large, I've done it.

What I said above is our weakness in sports betting, it can be used by bookmakers, in general the money does not come back even though the OP says the money is guaranteed back, they have 1000's of reasons to delay payment until it's gone, considering the OP is still a beginner, most likely losing an account on this forum isn't a hindrance for him, it's okay to do sports betting predictions, take a good look at their reputation.


Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: BitcoinAccepted on March 01, 2022, 07:33:33 AM
I see that you have consecutive 5 losses and you multiply your bets to cover your losses but that would be very risky, if you are unlucky all your subscribers will lose its money too but I notice that your previous days your average bet is around 25-50 I think that was a good strategy if you know that you can predict more wins than losing. So betting in many games and predicting more wins is much safer than the usual martingale style betting.


Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: Mauser on March 01, 2022, 07:55:56 AM

NO PROFIT IN 7 DAYS? 100% REFUND


How does this work exactly? We need to bet the exact same slips as you do for 7 days, if there is a loss we get the loss back from you? That is a very generous offer from you. So far it seems that you are very profitable with your betting. I saw that you are winning always much more than you are losing, so for every 1 or 2 days of small losses, you have one big payout day. That is awesome, I might give it a try starting this weekend. Always good to consider new betting areas as long as they are profitable. But instead of betting $25 for game, I would probably start with just $5, so dividing all your bets by 5 to make it a bit cheaper on my bankroll.


buy-subscription
$20 / monthly


Oh I missed that it's a monthly subscription. Makes sense since you make so much money out of it. May I ask how much time you spend researching your bets every month?


Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: bitbollo on March 01, 2022, 05:53:27 PM
@tabigod
I hope in your good faith :)
Why don't you offer me a one month free trial of your service? I guarantee you an honest review of your work here on forum...

If you intend to offer a professional service, remember to keep the thread/spreadsheet updated with your bets... Yesterday and today are missing :(

You are not the first to pass this section proposing to sell this kind of service ...


Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: tabigod on March 03, 2022, 06:21:40 PM
@tabigod
I hope in your good faith :)
Why don't you offer me a one month free trial of your service? I guarantee you an honest review of your work here on forum...

If you intend to offer a professional service, remember to keep the thread/spreadsheet updated with your bets... Yesterday and today are missing :(

You are not the first to pass this section proposing to sell this kind of service ...


For sure, i can offer you a free trial of 1 week. Join our discord server and contact me there  ;D


Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: tabigod on March 03, 2022, 06:40:57 PM
@tabigod
I hope in your good faith :)
Why don't you offer me a one month free trial of your service? I guarantee you an honest review of your work here on forum...

If you intend to offer a professional service, remember to keep the thread/spreadsheet updated with your bets... Yesterday and today are missing :(

You are not the first to pass this section proposing to sell this kind of service ...


Forgot to update with March spreadsheet, and pretty much daily i update spreadsheet.


NO PROFIT IN 7 DAYS? 100% REFUND


How does this work exactly? We need to bet the exact same slips as you do for 7 days, if there is a loss we get the loss back from you? That is a very generous offer from you. So far it seems that you are very profitable with your betting. I saw that you are winning always much more than you are losing, so for every 1 or 2 days of small losses, you have one big payout day. That is awesome, I might give it a try starting this weekend. Always good to consider new betting areas as long as they are profitable. But instead of betting $25 for game, I would probably start with just $5, so dividing all your bets by 5 to make it a bit cheaper on my bankroll.


buy-subscription
$20 / monthly


Oh I missed that it's a monthly subscription. Makes sense since you make so much money out of it. May I ask how much time you spend researching your bets every month?

For you since you are reputable i would offer you a 1 week free trial, you come in tell me your bankroll and you do what i say, if you lose money i will refund the loss to you if you are this sceptic.

NONE OF MY CUSTOMERS HAPPENED TO ASK FOR A REFUND, WHY? BECAUSE THEY STARTED GAINING PROFIT FROM DAY 1 WHEN THEY JOINED. I DO RESEARCH EVERYDAY.

You can come ask them directly on my server about how i work, and they will tell you if i'm doing my job wrong or not.

My suggestions, and some comments below...
Please note, I am posting for free a selection of my bets from some years :) here on forum and I have won several prize on tipster competition with defunct DirectBet (With my score I collect the second place on hall of fame).

GOOD
- You have placed bets with "relative higher odds"
- Your bets "should be placed" pre match
- You seems determined in offer that service with nice condition/track history for user

BAD
- we cannot have a confirmation :( of when you made a prediction (you can create a table only for justify your track record....)
- you have as little as 24 days as "track history". It's not enough to offer a service (at least to me :) )
- most of your bets are just "martingale" to recover some of your loss
- You can achieve a little profit of 1 cent and no refund for gamblers :( (with previous point it's obviously you will win always just double your bet!)
- You are not using an escrow but you make some bombastic claim
- there is no explanation of your choice. It seems you take obviously match (under 2.00) and place a bet.

SUGGESTIONS
-Use a timestamps for your predictions (and maybe offer some for free)
-USE ESCROW! You don't have any previous history or reputation here on forum and I cannot trust some one in that condition.
-Before selling a service you must show proofs of your ability. There are gamblers active from years here on forum (with trackrecord) that don't ask money since they now that gambling... well... is gambling even for good tipsters :)
- explain your bet! let people understand how you make your choice
-  offer an escrow for your service (repetita iuvant) since if you're targeting noobs of this industry ....

Pretty good reply with some good points. I do my research for bets so i can assure you it's not just randomly putting under odd 2 bets.
I offered free bets for 1 week on my server, and after that turned subscription only.
The proof of my abilities is the spreadsheet, you can come personally and dm me on discord, i'll show you days with big profit, and see that matches with my predictions gaven to my customers.


Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: bitbollo on March 03, 2022, 06:50:49 PM
@tabigood
thanks for your offer, much appreciated.
I hope to be able to login during this weekend into discord.
I have a couple of curiosities:
Are your bets live or prematch?
why not offer a full month test?
  free to answer even in private ....

Spreadsheet Is a proof but... You can post your bets and we can't be sure when as been posted for the first time... 


Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: tabigod on March 03, 2022, 06:56:40 PM
@tabigood
thanks for your offer, much appreciated.
I hope to be able to login during this weekend into discord.
I have a couple of curiosities:
Are your bets live or prematch?
why not offer a full month test?
  free to answer even in private ....

Spreadsheet Is a proof but... You can post your bets and we can't be sure when as been posted for the first time... 

The bets are LIVE and Prematch, mostly LIVE.
Not full month because i can say 1 week is enough to create your impression about my service and how i work.
If you don't trust spreadsheet, you can tell me which day you want to see and i'll show you everything from my prediction channel for customers and see the bets match with the spreadsheet.
And i can do that easier in discord.

That's for every reputable person in here that has doubts, 1 week free trial & and when you get your free trial you can easily see our latest bets, and you can get to know exactly how my management method is and why after losses we put x2-x3 times the first amount to recover loss, it's all about maths, whoever said i don't do research and maths and i just want to get the money from the people they are wrong, i'm 100% helping customers, 100% on point when it comes to money management.
Just a quick note, all you see on the SPREADSHEET, is with a bankroll of $5000, realistic bankroll, realistic amounts per bet such as $25.


Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: jossiel on March 03, 2022, 10:51:27 PM
Hi, there tabigod,

There is this topic: Have you ever subscribe to any tipser giving sports betting premium picks? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387922.0)

And I've seen that you have this thread offering your sports betting picks and there's a good discussion that's going there. It's actually a good point if a tipster actually comments there and explains why or why not people should get into paid picks.

If the money they'll pay for is worth it or not.


Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: bitbollo on March 05, 2022, 09:44:48 AM
Not full month because i can say 1 week is enough to create your impression about my service and how i work.
You can have a lucky or unlucky week... that's why I have asked about a full month.
Don't worry I will not share your bets/or provide access to anyone.
I can made a proof of your betting style (likewise you have a good ratio of win/not lie about your bet) but.....as I will show below this strategy is full of risk. because it works initially because you have low odds (!) but in the long term it could be a disaster with just 3 loss..*

If you don't trust spreadsheet, you can tell me which day you want to see and i'll show you everything from my prediction channel for customers and see the bets match with the spreadsheet.
And i can do that easier in discord.
The best solution is a timestamp! We can be sure of what have you placed and the time.
I am sorry but as showed below, a strategy like this could work for one week.... maybe... but there is an high risk to collapse all bank roll in few bets

That's for every reputable person in here that has doubts, 1 week free trial & and when you get your free trial you can easily see our latest bets, and you can get to know exactly how my management method is and why after losses we put x2-x3 times the first amount to recover loss,
....
Just a quick note, all you see on the SPREADSHEET, is with a bankroll of $5000, realistic bankroll, realistic amounts per bet such as $25.
From a statistical point of view (or just simple math) I see some big risk on this strategy.
Let me explain....

*
... if you hit a loosing streak you can have the following results:
25$ Loss ---> x2 50$ Loss ---> x2 100 $ Loss ---> 200$ Loss ---> x2 400$ Loss---> 800$ Loss ---> 1600$ Loss ---> x2 3200$  ---> LOSS (out of business)
25$ Loss ---> x3 75$ Loss ---> x3 225$ Loss ---> 675$ Loss ---> 2025$ x3 ---> LOSS (out of business)
It means 8 consecutive loss or 5 consecutive Loss you will get out of business....
But since you're not playing odds greater then @2.00 after a couple of loss (and 2x - 3x) it's likewise impossible recover your initial bankroll... people should pay for a strategy like this with odds provided under @2.00 ? :(

Example
25$ Loss ---> x2 50$ Loss ---> x2 100 $ Loss (total loss 175$)
You place 200$ at @1.50 = 100$ win
Meanwhile you have loss ... 175$ Net profit -75$
So you're forced to bet odds @2.00 .... just 3 loss and you're forced to BUMP your bankroll/search for higher odds!
Because you're betting 8x your initial bankroll!  (from 25$ ...to 200$)
It means Tl:Dr that just a couple of loss and you will play just to recover your initial bankroll, meanwhile putting ALL bankroll at risk with HIGHER (more difficult) odds!

Martingale strategy is pretty hard to be winning in the long time.  
I think it's a pretty dangerous strategy and based only in luck. and with each loss you force your betting style piling pressure and higher odds...
I am a bit skeptic ... thank you for your offer but is ok.


Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: tabigod on March 11, 2022, 12:17:56 PM
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Title: Re: BEST SPORTS BETTING PICKS - GUARANTEED PROFIT - WOSPORT [#1 PREDICTIONS]
Post by: SirLancelot on March 11, 2022, 06:49:41 PM
Hi, there tabigod,

There is this topic: Have you ever subscribe to any tipser giving sports betting premium picks? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387922.0)

And I've seen that you have this thread offering your sports betting picks and there's a good discussion that's going there. It's actually a good point if a tipster actually comments there and explains why or why not people should get into paid picks.

If the money they'll pay for is worth it or not.
The thread is locked so I don't think he can explain why paid picks are worth it. From my perspective though, I feel like paid picks are only worth if the tipster has a prior history of +ve picks overall and certain tipsters are good in certain sports.

When I am betting on UFC every Saturday, I follow no other but statszone (free predictions) so I have different tipsters for different sports, some paid others free.

By the way, I don't like the fact that OP has mentioned Guaranteed Profits because no one can actually guarantee profits so I don't like this term. It points more towards fixed matches and all those things.