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Title: Mining fail-safes? rather be proactive than reactive Post by: PolishBaldEagle on February 17, 2022, 03:27:53 AM Don’t need my home burning down either.
I hop between using miniZ, lolminer, and trex, though, I assume any added exceptions shouldn’t vary much between miners. My questions are, What type of heat prevention fail safes do you guys use? Electrical wise, I am good. No cable is pulling more power than it can handle and I still have plenty of headroom on my PSU. Do you have certain lines where if card reaches this temp, shut it down? I also have an exception where if miner crashes for whatever reason, to just restart miner. Is there a way to add that if miner crashes 6 times or so to not restart again? Because there may be an obvious problem?? Title: Re: Mining fail-safes? rather be proactive than reactive Post by: adaseb on February 17, 2022, 05:40:42 AM Normally when I had some cable melt or GPU blow up a capacitor all it does is make the rig crash. Never led to an actual fire. However I was always worried.
Kept all the rigs on metal open air cases and on a metal rack and kept away from anything flammable. Also had extra smoke detectors near the mining rigs. So if anything happened when I was home I would run quick. If I wasn't home then that's another issue. I guess you can have a remote smoke detector and some cameras, you see the rig go up in flames you can call the fire dept. No idea if it would help that much since you are remote however. Title: Re: Mining fail-safes? rather be proactive than reactive Post by: JayDDee on February 17, 2022, 06:04:21 AM And keep everything dust free. You can also keep a fire extinguisher handy as an added measure.
It's really very simple, keep anything hot away from anything that can burn. Title: Re: Mining fail-safes? rather be proactive than reactive Post by: swogerino on February 17, 2022, 08:29:26 AM I can now say I never worry again after getting that riserless motherboard.I plug all the cards in the PCIEX 16 slots,give them enough power from my modular PSU,keep the temperature below 70 degree Celsius most of the time,I also am electrical wise so I don't worry about that.I have this motherboard running for a few days and it shows great stability,cards are running cool and the PSU although being a premium one it runs at 60% of its capacity so I have enough for 1 card more.Also keeping the rig in an isolated place like I do greatly narrows down the fear of getting fire etc which to some people it have happened.
Title: Re: Mining fail-safes? rather be proactive than reactive Post by: PolishBaldEagle on February 17, 2022, 12:56:49 PM Normally when I had some cable melt or GPU blow up a capacitor all it does is make the rig crash. Never led to an actual fire. However I was always worried. Kept all the rigs on metal open air cases and on a metal rack and kept away from anything flammable. Also had extra smoke detectors near the mining rigs. So if anything happened when I was home I would run quick. If I wasn't home then that's another issue. I guess you can have a remote smoke detector and some cameras, you see the rig go up in flames you can call the fire dept. No idea if it would help that much since you are remote however. I did add a NEST temperature sensor by the rig to monitor that locations temperature as well as 1 large exhaust fan (a tall narrow one. Like an ionizing fan) and 1 Milwaukee fan to use for rapid cooking if needed. Will buy a fire extinguisher today, and the camera, I have an extra AXIS camera laying around so I’ll put it to good use . Though, I was seeing if you guys have any software implementations in place, like if GPU hits X temperature or X power draw, then stop or alert via discord or something like that Title: Re: Mining fail-safes? rather be proactive than reactive Post by: FP91G on February 17, 2022, 01:56:37 PM Don’t need my home burning down either. If you do not have large loads on the power supply cables, then it is enough to use video surveillance. And for maximum reliability, I use high-quality power supplies with a gold certificate, for example, Corsair, Cougar and other well-known high-quality manufacturers.I hop between using miniZ, lolminer, and trex, though, I assume any added exceptions shouldn’t vary much between miners. My questions are, What type of heat prevention fail safes do you guys use? Electrical wise, I am good. No cable is pulling more power than it can handle and I still have plenty of headroom on my PSU. Do you have certain lines where if card reaches this temp, shut it down? I also have an exception where if miner crashes for whatever reason, to just restart miner. Is there a way to add that if miner crashes 6 times or so to not restart again? Because there may be an obvious problem?? Title: Re: Mining fail-safes? rather be proactive than reactive Post by: JayDDee on February 17, 2022, 05:04:29 PM Though, I was seeing if you guys have any software implementations in place, like if GPU hits X temperature or X power draw, then stop or alert via discord or something like that Well, that's being reactive, not proactive. It doesn't prevent a problem it just reacts to one. It doesn't really prevent fires either, it just prevents further equipment damage. There are many programs that do what you want, just browse some of the other threads. Title: Re: Mining fail-safes? rather be proactive than reactive Post by: swogerino on February 18, 2022, 09:32:47 AM Normally when I had some cable melt or GPU blow up a capacitor all it does is make the rig crash. Never led to an actual fire. However I was always worried. Kept all the rigs on metal open air cases and on a metal rack and kept away from anything flammable. Also had extra smoke detectors near the mining rigs. So if anything happened when I was home I would run quick. If I wasn't home then that's another issue. I guess you can have a remote smoke detector and some cameras, you see the rig go up in flames you can call the fire dept. No idea if it would help that much since you are remote however. I did add a NEST temperature sensor by the rig to monitor that locations temperature as well as 1 large exhaust fan (a tall narrow one. Like an ionizing fan) and 1 Milwaukee fan to use for rapid cooking if needed. Will buy a fire extinguisher today, and the camera, I have an extra AXIS camera laying around so I’ll put it to good use . Though, I was seeing if you guys have any software implementations in place, like if GPU hits X temperature or X power draw, then stop or alert via discord or something like that For the temperature you have a built in option in HiveOS settings after you log in into your account and you can for example set an option if temperature of a card hits 80 degrees Celsius stop mining and you receive an email that a worker went offline after some minutes.I know this is not 100% what you are looking for but to a great extent can help you with that. Title: Re: Mining fail-safes? rather be proactive than reactive Post by: FP91G on February 18, 2022, 05:36:15 PM Normally when I had some cable melt or GPU blow up a capacitor all it does is make the rig crash. Never led to an actual fire. However I was always worried. Kept all the rigs on metal open air cases and on a metal rack and kept away from anything flammable. Also had extra smoke detectors near the mining rigs. So if anything happened when I was home I would run quick. If I wasn't home then that's another issue. I guess you can have a remote smoke detector and some cameras, you see the rig go up in flames you can call the fire dept. No idea if it would help that much since you are remote however. I did add a NEST temperature sensor by the rig to monitor that locations temperature as well as 1 large exhaust fan (a tall narrow one. Like an ionizing fan) and 1 Milwaukee fan to use for rapid cooking if needed. Will buy a fire extinguisher today, and the camera, I have an extra AXIS camera laying around so I’ll put it to good use . Though, I was seeing if you guys have any software implementations in place, like if GPU hits X temperature or X power draw, then stop or alert via discord or something like that For the temperature you have a built in option in HiveOS settings after you log in into your account and you can for example set an option if temperature of a card hits 80 degrees Celsius stop mining and you receive an email that a worker went offline after some minutes.I know this is not 100% what you are looking for but to a great extent can help you with that. The main problems are cables and power supplies. Or video surveillance or smart fire detectors. Title: Re: Mining fail-safes? rather be proactive than reactive Post by: adaseb on February 19, 2022, 03:00:51 AM Riserless motherboards are good because they remove the worry of having the sata cable melt down, this is the most common item that usually melts for most miners. So it’s not a bad idea.
You still got the risk of the GPU themselves having some fault such as a shorted capacitor which goes up in smokes, however this is more rare and usually the PSU detects the short and shuts down. Title: Re: Mining fail-safes? rather be proactive than reactive Post by: FP91G on February 19, 2022, 12:18:52 PM Riserless motherboards are good because they remove the worry of having the sata cable melt down, this is the most common item that usually melts for most miners. So it’s not a bad idea. Riserless motherboards add other problems, such as a mining farm requiring additional cooling or a closed case, and these are additional costs. I think it's cheaper to buy quality raisers and a quality power supply.You still got the risk of the GPU themselves having some fault such as a shorted capacitor which goes up in smokes, however this is more rare and usually the PSU detects the short and shuts down. Title: Re: Mining fail-safes? rather be proactive than reactive Post by: swogerino on February 19, 2022, 08:28:43 PM Riserless motherboards are good because they remove the worry of having the sata cable melt down, this is the most common item that usually melts for most miners. So it’s not a bad idea. Riserless motherboards add other problems, such as a mining farm requiring additional cooling or a closed case, and these are additional costs. I think it's cheaper to buy quality raisers and a quality power supply.You still got the risk of the GPU themselves having some fault such as a shorted capacitor which goes up in smokes, however this is more rare and usually the PSU detects the short and shuts down. I was against them in the first place,but just 8 additional fans it is not that big of a power cost to cool it down.I bought it last Sunday and put it to work on Monday,the riserless motherboard,not a single problem so far.I completely have eliminated that saying "I got 99 problems and one bad riser is all of them" and I have also a few free slots in my old motherboard for which I have ordered a Rtx 2060 12 GB to try. I agree it is more difficult to set up properly such motherboard at the beginning but once you do it is a set and forget thing then.I know for sure if I will build another rig this is the kind of motherboard I will use. Title: Re: Mining fail-safes? rather be proactive than reactive Post by: FP91G on February 20, 2022, 12:52:43 PM Riserless motherboards are good because they remove the worry of having the sata cable melt down, this is the most common item that usually melts for most miners. So it’s not a bad idea. Riserless motherboards add other problems, such as a mining farm requiring additional cooling or a closed case, and these are additional costs. I think it's cheaper to buy quality raisers and a quality power supply.You still got the risk of the GPU themselves having some fault such as a shorted capacitor which goes up in smokes, however this is more rare and usually the PSU detects the short and shuts down. I was against them in the first place,but just 8 additional fans it is not that big of a power cost to cool it down.I bought it last Sunday and put it to work on Monday,the riserless motherboard,not a single problem so far.I completely have eliminated that saying "I got 99 problems and one bad riser is all of them" and I have also a few free slots in my old motherboard for which I have ordered a Rtx 2060 12 GB to try. I agree it is more difficult to set up properly such motherboard at the beginning but once you do it is a set and forget thing then.I know for sure if I will build another rig this is the kind of motherboard I will use. |