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https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2021/09/20/bitcoins-impacts-on-climate-and-the-environment


https://theconversation.com/bitcoin-isnt-getting-greener-four-environmental-myths-about-cryptocurrency-debunked-155329

The threat to the environment has existed since we (all people in developed and developing countries) switched to an industrial way of producing something. As soon as this happened, the inevitable process of chasing profits began, and against the backdrop of ever-increasing competition in the global economy, there are no prerequisites to hope that this process will be stopped or slowed down. And, of course, all this has been happening so long ago that the person who invented bitcoin (whoever he or they may be) had not yet been born. So all this is nonsense.

The cars emits a lot pollution as well, did we stop using them and the trucks? No ! Most of the things that we use have some probelms concerned with the environment and we have to understand that the developed nations and other industrial countries are not making it any easier on the environment. We do know that the green mining is just a small portion, But we can hope with projects like El Salvador for more people to take it on. At the same time right now we don't really have a system that can tackle the financial probelms that everyone is facing right now and thus needs bitcoins in every sense, it's a necessity for the moment, plus soon they will stop mining coins and the mining energy would be more concerned with taking transactions back and forth, the small miners will disappear because of all the competition but at the end of the day, the big companies would have to follow green rules and thus make things more sustainable inevitably.

Ah here we go, another Copy/Paste post about the environment and Bitcoin.

Does the OP expect us all to switch our interest to Bitcoin SV?

I would love to know how the OP thinks about mining for Lithium to fuel new
electric vehicles, what about the energy used there? I'll bet the OP doesnt have
the motivation to search, copy and past all that data because it doesnt
attack Bitcoin mining.

Bitcoin's energy consumption has been debated to death here on BCT. I dont read
any of these threads anymore, there isnt an industry on Earth which doesnt have
a massive carbon footprint.

On the contrary alot of people seems to castigate against what they don't admire and in this case, is the commendations coming from bitcoin enthusiast or those that are against it, naturally man tends to develop a kind of pleasure to what they don't like, bitcoin already is contributing to solving world inefficient energy wasted through the use of a renewable energy while providing another solution to environmental degradation, and with or without bitcoin energy consumption the total amount of waste energy globally remains constant and bitcoin has not come to constitute more loss to this but rather solve part of the menace through renewable energy.

Do you really think that you will be allowed to continue to pollute the environment?

New system coming soon
https://gdb.voanews.com/49A4E389-0B35-432E-900D-D5169DCA9B49_w1023_r1_s.jpg

Then few people attached importance to this, but now it is an official agenda approved by Klaus Schwab himself.

BSV is green. BTC is dangerous for nature. BSV ecosystem & the new world order will be on the same side. The rest of the non-green cryptocurrency will be outlawed

No one is saying that it's not an issue for the environment, we are all aware of that. One of the big factors for its longevity is that it addresses its impact on the environment and in a growing increase in environmental awareness, it's something that it has to tackle sometime in the future. Maybe it could go the Norway route where it's investing in the environment after it got it's money from harming the environment with fossil fuels. It's a strange situation.

Funny to read from a fan of pedobitcoin about the harms of the original bitcoin! For some reason globalists, when talking about carbon dioxide emissions, forget to mention erupting volcanoes, which emit more CO2 than all of humanity. So it seems to me that this topic is best not brought up at all. I take this opportunity to say hello to the real Satoshi through the author of this thread.

I see things like this and I ask if it's the only one out there. Secondly, bitcoin is just a decade and a year or 2 years old and suddenly, it feels the like the environmental menace just started. I wonder where crude refining has been and other activities that results in the production of hydrocarbon.

Anyway, bitcoin shouldn't be taking the front line of this, it's just pure hatred on the system and the fact that, government and individuals fronting this aren't at the end point of it all. Should they be, I'm sure all that would be forgotten.

Boring.  Same tired old crap on repeat.

Read the following topics and understand how minor of an issue it really is:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5325350.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5385679.0



I'd have said it's more of a shit-brown.
💩 BitcloneShitVision 💩

Soon all people will switch to electric cars. And just the same, people should switch from BTC to BSV, because BSV is green (And BTC is not green)

Proof
https://i.ibb.co/MgTfy4t/image.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/XXVVDB9/image.jpg

https://coincarboncap.com

Actually I think this is just a classic reason that is always exaggerated.
Since I haven't been in bitcoin until now I'm here the reasons for environmental threats are still one of the reasons people dislike bitcoin.
Whereas on the other hand there are now many companies that actually produce B3 waste which is classified as a type of waste that is very dangerous for the environment.
I think if we bother thinking about bitcoin being harmful to the environment then B3 there is much more dangerous and who said bitcoin is dangerous not thinking about this?

This forum about BTC, not about cars, lithium & waste incinerators. Fuel cars, harmful lithium & toxic wastes is a competence of environmental organizations.

Here is crypto community, not environmental organization. The competence of our crypto community is a awareness of the harm of BTC & fight against its impact on the environment.

Hey,,, even shit can be environmentally friendly. Unfortunately, crypto shit does not even contribute to nutrients to help plants grow and make soil fertile.

I always laugh when I see people throw their alts out there and tell people it is environmentally friendly. And then you check the network and see only transactions of miners and holders to each other.

BSV are the exception among other crypto. BSV is green (https://newswire.net/newsroom/blog-post/00218098-bsv-is-green.html) in spite of PoW
Only 32 harmless BSV nodes (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-sv/nodes) against 8305 harmfull BTC nodes (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/nodes) polluting environment

BTC should be banned by all governments for for the sake of the planet.
BTC has no chance of survival with such greedy miners polluting Earth.
Only BSV has the right to survive in the future utopia

Which is like a grain of sand in a sandbox.
I'm not even going to argue if this is a right number, but for people who think 11k tonnes a year is a lot:
China, the largest producer of electronic waste in the world creates 10 million tonnes every year, the US 7 million.
Worldwide more than 50 million tonnes of electronic waste is produced every year.

You can find these statistics online with ease on multiple sites.

I'd rather if an average household threw out 10kg of electronic trash in the form of Bitcoin miners and support unconfiscatable, censorship-resistant money, than 50kg because they got bored by their 50" TV and need a 60".

So, you crawl out from the altcoins boards and post a topic in Bitcoin Discussion with the deliberate intent to draw attention to the fact that your forkcoin can supposedly only do one thing remotely well?  And even if it is true, it is largely outside of your direct control anyway, so it's not really even your accomplishment.  Are you sure it's a good idea to highlight by omission that your worthless scamcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5149062) is completely useless at anything else?  I mean... I've heard of "playing to your strengths", but all this does is shine a spotlight on all the things you can't boast about.  Personally, I think it makes you and your scummy project look desperate and weak.  But then, so do most of the things you do on this forum.  ::)

But....

BSV is the Green Bitcoin with Ec0-Friendly Mining Process

Looking at Bitcoin and comparing to other digital assets based on CO2 emissions and the amount of energy used for hashing, BSV is the overall greenest.

Less emissions and lower energy usage make it one of the cleanest on the blockchain.

We know that having the ability to scale while using less energy is desirable by all. BSV is the only digital asset that can do both.

https://coinpedia.org/guest-post/bsv-is-the-green-bitcoin

environmental menace? It's not that this fud has been around for a long time but until now it's not bitcoin that is the main cause of environmental damage, there are many factories or vehicle emissions that cause environmental damage, Bitcoin only has an almost imperceptible impact.

European Union is on Track to Ban Bitcoin

According to a surprise report published by the German cryptocurrency media agency BTC-ECHO, the European Parliament, one of the legislative branches of the European Union, has plans to ban Bitcoin and other proof-of-work (PoW) cryptocurrencies.  

The final draft of the Markets in Crypto-Assets (MiCA) regulatory framework, the much-anticipated package of cryptocurrency regulations, includes a specific provision that makes illegal the “environmentally unsustainable” consensus mechanism.

What does this mean? This means that Bitcoin could become illegal within the countries of the European Union starting from Jan. 1, 2025.

Businesses in EU would be prohibited from offering any services associated with ‘proof-of-work’ cryptocurrencies, such as Bitcoin.  

Stefan Berger, the center-right rapporteur behind the framework, told the media that the proposal was “very likely” to be greenlit, because it has overwhelming support from both sides.

The regulation was pushed by center-left Social Democrats, the Greens and the Left Party. Some Christian Democrats and right-wing conservatives opposed the addition of the Bitcoin ban, but it was a deal-breaker for the parties that supported cracking down on proof-of-work.

The European Commission, the executive branch of the European Union, will now engage in a trialogue with the member states and the Parliament before reaching a final decision later this year.

https://wallstreetpro.com/2022/02/24/european-union-is-on-track-to-ban-bitcoin

We definitely can’t ignore the environmental hazards that bitcoin mining causes but we all know that developers have been attempting to fix it. Let’s wait for that.

I am curious what exactly are the developers doing to fix the environmental hazards that bitcoin mining causes?

Tesla’s Kimbal Musk says company was ‘very ignorant’ of environmental impact of its Bitcoin purchase

https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Screen-Shot-2022-02-23-at-4.23.06-PM.png?w=990&crop=1

In an interview with TechCrunch onstage at the Ethereum Denver conference, Tesla board member Kimbal Musk, brother of CEO Elon Musk, said that the company had been “very ignorant” of the environmental impact of Bitcoin when it announced last year that it would purchase $1.5 billion worth of the cryptocurrency and would plan to allow owners to purchase the company’s vehicles with the currency.

“When we invested in Bitcoin, we were very ignorant. We had no idea of the environmental impact, we literally didn’t know, we were like this seems like a good store of value and a good way to diversify assets. And of course, it didn’t take very long to get a million — I’m not kidding probably a million — messages telling us what we were doing to the environment,” said Kimbal Musk, in an interview with this reporter. “And of course, our company is about creating alternative energy futures so we really were not informed enough when we made that decision.”

Kimbal Musk says that while Tesla “didn’t necessarily regret” its Bitcoin purchase, he hopes that the broader blockchain industry can move to more environmentally friendly infrastructure, noting that his own philanthropic organization Big Green had embraced a crypto-native DAO governance structure operating on a less energy-intensive blockchain.

https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Screen-Shot-2022-02-23-at-4.12.41-PM.png?resize=680,453

“I really do not agree with the environmental impact of crypto, but I love what it does.” Kimbal Musk said onstage. “So we’ve just got to figure out how to do it without the environmental impact…. it’s simply not an option to have this environmental impact.”

Tesla’s decision to buy Bitcoin last year prompted a major bull run for the cryptocurrency, though that surge was famously reversed months later by the company’s announcement that while it did not immediately plan to sell its Bitcoin, it would no longer be accepting Bitcoin as payment for vehicle purchases.

“Cryptocurrency is a good idea on many levels and we believe it has a promising future, but this cannot come at a great cost to the environment,” Elon Musk wrote, partially, in a tweet last May. “Tesla will not be selling any bitcoin and we intend to use it for transactions as soon as mining transitions to more sustainable energy.”

While there is still plenty of missing data around how heavily the Bitcoin mining network relies on renewable energy sources, it is clear just how significant the network’s energy usage is. Estimates from Digiconomist‘s energy tracker suggest that the total annualized energy footprint of Bitcoin’s mining operations has nearly doubled since Musk’s tweet last May. The Bitcoin network contributes as much carbon to the atmosphere as the country of Kuwait does on an annual basis according to the site’s estimates.

Kimbal Musk has served on Tesla’s board since 2004.

https://techcrunch.com/2022/02/23/teslas-kimbal-musk-says-company-was-very-ignorant-of-environmental-impact-of-its-bitcoin-purchase

Power consumption is the price you pay for security.  And this is the alternative price you pay if you don't have a secure network (https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-sv-rocked-by-three-51-attacks-in-as-many-months).  I know which one I'd rather have.  

Arguably, transacting on weak and insecure blockchains is a bigger waste of energy.  Like squandering money constructing something expensive on a known sinkhole or bog.  BSV scamcoin is an utter waste of time/effort/energy/money.  Not green in the slightest.  It's basically just pissing resources up the wall to talk a big game when you aren't actually achieving anything (aside from painting a target on your arse).  

Not to mention the part where the entire scamcoin project is part of an ongoing fraud to support a renowned identity thief who has declared war on this very community.  You and all your supporters are scum.

Bitcoin mining is actually worse for the environment since China banned it, a new study says


https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/02/26/bitcoin-mining-was-actually-worse-for-the-environment-since-china-banned-it-a-new-study-sa

This Shit Vision scammer had gone off the radar for some time. Looks like its back again with the same old agenda. The BSV scammers definitely have a very well-paid PR team. Despite getting shat upon almost everywhere including twitter, they seem to have a knack for making up new websites to give BSV a veneer of being legit.

I wonder if its the same person behind the account now or just another paid sock-puppet posting his lying master's bullshit.

After failing to convince anyone of the legitimacy of BSV, they seem to want to play the environment card. Well, at scaled TPS, every PoW crypto will be the same. Even if changes are made, they can be incorporated into Bitcoin. Nobody needs a scammer like CSW to tell the community what to do or believe in. The community chose a long time ago when every respectable figure rejected BSV and that scammer.

Just take your shit away.

LOL.

We are helping to protect environment offering green alternative of BTC

BSV - is a green alternative

Bitcoin mining is turning green. But the point is, what is not an environmental menace nowadays? Your food is an environmental menace. Your clothes are an environmental menace. Your gadgets are an environmental menace. Your house, furniture, car, bicycle, lamp, carpet, and everything else are an environmental menace. Your hobby is an environmental menace. You know what, humans are an environmental menace. But, again, Bitcoin is turning green.

That ridiculous. Hashrate of BTC is growing. BTC is not green. Greedy BTC miners are carbon terrorists!
BTC is environmental menace.

https://i.ibb.co/s10xhd9/hashrate.jpg

https://www.blockchain.com/en/charts/hash-rate

I totally agree, but ...

• The solution is to force Bitcoin miners (and everyone else) to stop using fossil fuels to generate the electricity that they use.
• Bitcoin's high energy usage is due entirely to its incredible success. Bitcoin SV is greener only because it is a dead coin.

Yeah, that didn't last long.

THIS IS NOT TRUE

BSV is not dead coin, BSV is cheap

look at our metastore (https://metastore.app/), we have many active BSV-based apps

Here's the latest: "EU Parliament Monetary Committee to Vote on MiCA Next Week. Wording that would have banned proof-of-work cryptos like bitcoin has been removed."

"An independent topic of proof-of-work is no longer provided in the MiCA," Berger told CoinDesk, confirming his promise to remove language he had previously called a "de facto" ban on Bitcoin.

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/03/07/eu-parliament-monetary-committee-to-vote-on-mica-next-week/


I hope we could find a totally objective and comprehensive data on how green or not Bitcoin mining is. So far, anti-Bitcoin could cite data that would serve their purpose while pro-Bitcoin could also cite data that would serve theirs.

On the other hand, pro-Bitcoin has been arguing that its energy consumption is somehow justified because that's the way to make sure transactions are secured and are impossible to tamper. In the same manner that tumble drying, which has a higher carbon emission than Bitcoin, is justified because it's the most efficient way to dry clothes. ;D

https://i.imgur.com/8Mxlc6C.png
https://twitter.com/DocumentingBTC/status/1500919244229390342/photo/1

Biden to Order Federal Agencies to Study Cryptocurrency Impacts


https://www.investopedia.com/biden-to-order-federal-agencies-to-study-crypto-impacts-5221587

Bitcoin should be stopped

Environmantal impact of BTC is growing in geometric progression

Wake up! Blind fools!

Bitcoin is getting even dirtier


https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/26/investing/bitcoin-mining-renewable-energy/index.html

Which comes heavier, the environment or our currency's security? But it doesn't mean that Bitcoin's only option to be able to work and be of use to everyone is to destroy the environment. It could keep it's secure design while minimizing its environmental impact. Bitcoin is no special case when it comes to environmentally-destructive technologies. But like the other technologies, Bitcoin is also starting to transform into an environment-friendly currency.

Hey toddlers. BTC has no future with that agressive mining

Volcanoes? You forgot one thing, volcanoes - it is a natural formation. BTC - is a fully anthropogenic factor

Why Is Bitcoin Bad For the Environment? It Spends A Lot of Energy (and Elon Musk Knows It)
https://youmatter.world/en/bitcoin-bad-environment-impact

It's the complete opposite of that, actually.  Weak and insecure chains get compromised.  They are the ones with no future.  

BTC continues to be more secure than any other PoW coin.  For that reason, it will outlast the multitude of cheap imitations out there.


 

It can't be.  Market forces determine everything.  No one is choosing for Bitcoin to have a higher hashrate than any other coin.  That's just something that naturally occurs when a coin is actually worth mining.  Undesirable shitcoins can claim to be "green", but that's merely a side effect of being worthless trash that no one can be bothered mining for.




No arguments there.  Exceedingly cheap.   ::)

Sometimes in life, you get exactly what you pay for.

Using electricity is not bad for the environment. Burning carbon to generate electricity is the problem.

there's no point in you screaming about this FUD because those who are already in love with bitcoin will find it hard to hate it.  based on the weather forecast agency report in my country, my country has a fairly high level of pollution and none of it is caused by Bitcoin ^{(though there are many bitcoin miners here)}

Yeah, it is not about PoW being great that makes Bitcoin the most secure and consistent chain, it is bitcoin that is doing it itself. There are other PoW systems out there which are not as strong or secure as bitcoin, which is a proof that PoW itself is not the reason for it, if it was then other chains would have been as secure as well. We are goign to see a PoS with ETH and see how they will do, if they do great then it will be great for them, if they do terrible then it would be another proof that PoS is not the solution.

There is nothing wrong with asking to get more greener, we just haven't found a way to do that just yet, as soon as we find a method that is as secure and more green then we would probably move there.

but we cannot allow the consumption of energy using fossil fuels to continue to be so high because this will accelerate the energy crisis in the future and as the best solution we must switch to renewable energy which is of course environmentally friendly so that mining is no longer the reason for many countries and some people to narrow the progress of bitcoin
although it's difficult but I'm sure bitcoin will be able to pass this challenge

If you are a "CO2 kills plants" believer...  Then yup; I am a very bad terrorist!  Whoehoe :)

Just like the crazy fact that lots of people here are Pro-Ukraine Neo-Nazi lovers, instead of seeing the real problem over there...


But who cares, there are to many dumb people living on this planet these days.

Judging from the environmental impact caused by mining BTC is a very strange thing, because for some countries and especially countries in Asia really consider this as a joke smart people as a whole. because for countries in Asia, the nature that exists can still be called a paradise to enjoy the air, and consider BTC miners as a natural thing. even for gold miners it is blatantly a bad deed and can have dire consequences for countries that do it greedily without regard for healthy nature.
So, if the media continues to release stupid debates like this, then I consider it something that has ulterior motives because of its free nature.

Thank God bitcoin collapsing and stop polluting the planet

Long live the new world order

Era of bitcoin was gone

OP is a funny man who is only entertaining ideas and opinions that are against Bitcoin. Now, he should be aware that if people will be rejecting Bitcoin for any reason they are rejecting the whole of cryptocurrency and BSV is still part of this industry which means it would be rejected too. In fact, when BTC is falling down, there is more chance that the value of BSV is doing the same thing as it is not detached from the whole industry. Of course, OP will all be silent or probably be looking for another reason of attack once the crypto winter is over...and it would be over based on the history of Bitcoin. My next question is: How come BSV has not overtaken BTC yet in many areas if it is really superior to the latter?

No problem, give us supply from hydro electric power and other natural sources we are fine with it unless and until the power is not steady. Since school days I’m learning that we are getting affected with the green house effect, I’m wondering how come they have not done anything since last 15 years! In fact they increased car production, rocket launches, number of flights increased and guess what everyone has air conditioners in their homes from developing countries as well. They are direct miners of CO2 and fumigations. Come on this is really question of for how long and what’s the alternate solutions. (Also I thought china does not mine anymore after their ban)

You just do your job, it's okay. Bitcoin is still fulfilling its mission, today bitcoin is priced at $ 20k and bitcoin has dropped from $ 69k to $20k. I don't feel sad, you may have forgotten that btc has only been around for 13 years and was originally an asset worth less than $1 and each bitcoin is now worth more than $20k, it has grown several hundred thousand times and there is no asset in the world that ever did what bitcoin did.

Thank you for praying for a bitcoin price drop for giving me the opportunity to buy bitcoins cheap. I missed bitcoin at $1, $3k and now I want it lower so I don't have to regret it again.

this BTC ponzi trap is designed for fools like you exactly

Open your eyes. Bitcoin is dead

Bitcoin is a pollution-creating mess

Few statistics on the environmental impact of Bitcoin mining
-Bitcoin uses more renewable energy than most countries
-Bitcoin mining is currently estimated to account for about 0.5% of global electricity consumption
-Now Bitcoin has a carbon footprint equivalent to Greece
-Only seven mining companies own almost 80% of all computer power on the network
-Bitcoin mining currently uses 66 times more electricity than in 2015
-In 2009 the cost of mining took a few second’s worth of household electricity, in 2021 the cost was worth 9 years of household electricity
-A single Bitcoin transaction results in the same carbon footprint as a traveler flying from New York to Amsterdam.

In an article on CNN Business written by Jon Sarlin “Bitcoin is a pollution-creating mess”. Despite efforts to make the energy-intensive mining process friendlier to the environment, it has grown significantly more reliant on fossil fuels over the past year.

China's cryptocurrency mining ban in the spring of 2021 significantly worsened Bitcoin's environmental impact, according to a new research on mining published in Joule. It is because Bitcoin miners were tapping into a significant amount of Chinese hydropower which suddenly evaporated when China made mining illegal, said Alex de Vries, one of the study's authors and a researcher at the School of Business and Economics at the Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam.

So miners took their business elsewhere, including countries using significantly dirtier energy than China. Electricity sources powering the Bitcoin network were just 25.1% renewable in August 2021, nearly 17 percentage points lower than the 2020 average.

Mining Bitcoin each year produces as much pollution as Greece created in 2019, the study found. A single Bitcoin transaction results in the same carbon footprint as a traveler flying from New York to Amsterdam.

"After China banned Bitcoin mining, everyone was expecting it to become more green, but we are somewhat surprisingly seeing the opposite happening." said de Vries. "A lot of the hydropower these miners got previously in China has now been replaced with natural gas from the US."

Bitcoin mining is still booming in the United States. According to the study, many of the American Bitcoin mines are powered by natural gas and coal. Kentucky now offers subsidies to crypto miners, looking to attract business for the state's coal industry.

Kazakhstan has also become a destination for Bitcoin miners. According to the study, the country's electricity grid is reliant on hard coal, which is even more polluting than the coal used in China.

The hydropower behind China's Bitcoin mines was often held up by cryptocurrency advocates to rebut criticism about the technology's environmental impact.

In May, Coinbase — one of the largest cryptocurrency marketplaces — published a "fact check" citing China's hydroelectric plants in trying to undermine the idea Bitcoin contributed to climate change.

Coinbase did not respond to CNN's questions on whether it stood by its fact check in light of China's cryptocurrency crackdown, but said in a statement it believes "the industry is innovating at an encouraging pace to solve these challenges... Community-led change is possible and crypto can be part of the fight against climate change if we come together to solve these challenges."

What is Bitcoin Mining?
In short, Bitcoin mining is the process of creating, or ‘winning’, new Bitcoins by solving increasingly difficult mathematical puzzles - a process called proof-of-work (PoW). While at its beginnings these puzzles could be solved with normal computers (CPUs), Bitcoin’s creator, Satoshi Nakamoto, designed a system where over time, as competition for Bitcoin mining grew, the mathematical puzzles would become more difficult to solve. Therefore, over the past decade, as the price of Bitcoin - and the possible profit from mining them - has skyrocketed, better technology has become indispensable to solve these puzzles.

Miners now use specialised computers, called ASIC systems, that are much more efficient per attempt (or hash) of the puzzle - therefore increasing the likelihood of being the first to solve the puzzle and reaping the newly mined Bitcoin, but also increasing the amount of energy required to power these computers.

ASIC systems, although more energy efficient than normal computers, require more electricity since they are typically kept running incessantly, and also require energy to cool down the hardware to prevent from overheating, either with internal fans or with air conditioning.

How long does it take to mine one Bitcoin?
The answer to this question is not as straightforward as one might think as the procedure is becoming more complex and requires so much processing power.

However, there is a Bitcoin mining calculator called the NiceHash calculator that may help you better understand. It will not tell you directly how long it will take to mine 1 Bitcoin but there is an easy way to find out. Go to the calculator, select which mining rig you’re going to use and then increase the number of devices until you can see that you’re earning 1 Bitcoin per month.

For example, based on the current hash rate it would take fourteen S19 Pros to mine 1 Bitcoin per month. Or, put differently, one S19 Pro could mine 1 Bitcoin in 14 months (not accounting for a rise in hash rate over time).

This calculator is the easiest way to figure out how long it will take you to mine 1 Bitcoin.

https://arcticportal.org/ap-library/news-list/2783-bitcoin-is-a-pollution-creating-mess

That's a positive characteristic, you gormless cretin.  It's good that we're using renewable sources of energy.  If you're going to talk FUD, at least do it right.   ::)

And you are clearly still envious of Bitcoin's energy use and resulting security, because no one wants to mine your worthless, collapsing fork-coin.  The only reason shit-vision does not use as much energy as Bitcoin is because it's a joke and no one's cares about it.  It's weak and insecure.  

I hope you don't use a car nor ride a bus for your transportation. You must be riding a bicycle or a tesla on your regular transportation. However it's also made of materials that were mined using energy that emits high carbon. The future is green energy and bitcoin can also mined thru green energy. But even current bitcoin mining is still nothing and very small compared to huge carbon emissions from factories and daily activities like cars. 

Why don't you look at your own carbon footprint and in particular observe how many BSV miners are running on non-renewables, and then take your garbage posts to Twitter.

whatever other members' responses about bitcoin the OP will still deny it because he is a Craig Steven Wright cult group with Bitcoin SV which he says is the real Bitcoin. For some reason it always attacks bitcoin, even though Bitcoin SV was born from a bitcoin fork and uses the name "Bitcoin". This kind of FUD is intentionally made for the bitcoin community, but I don't think there's any point in making this kind of FUD, because everyone today is smart and can discern the hidden intentions and hidden goals of Craig Steven Wright's loyal followers.

It is not only Bitcoin that is an environmental menace. Everything that uses electricity is an environmental menace. But we need to develop sustainable energy that doesn't emit greenhouse emissions. This should be the goal. Not villianise Bitcoin for killing the environment.

But the fact that we are not pursuing sustainable energy - this is true. This needs to change.

when compared to miners such as petroleum, coal and others who have been around for a long time, and Bitcoin miners who are only 1 decade old, the impact of damage to the earth caused by bitcoin mining is not much.
even though both of them caused mischief on this Earth

Everything and everyone in this world evolve, so does bitcoin, there was a time when mining cost of Bitcoin was far lower than what is today. However as the cost of mining has soared. This debate has been in public space for quite some time. Firstly I think there is solution to every problem. Maybe Bitcoin too will move into proof of stake concept in future or something else. However for now we have to eat the cost. It's as simple as that. No ifs and buts..

at op

Wtf are you talking about.

oil burning and coal burning  since 1900 has to be 999999 not btc and 1 btc.



btc does 220eh at 50 watts a th.

this is 220000000th x 50 = 1,100,000,000 watts an hour or 1,100 megawatts an hour.

about the same as 26,400 meagwatts a day

but world output is  25,000,000 mega watts a day

so btc is 1/1000 of the worlds power.

and of course you leave out that  from 1900 to 2009 btc burned 0


and you leave out how much mega watts in solar are funded by btc.

my partner fourm member buysolar and i have made 500 kwatts of solar arrays. they generate over 5 megawatts a day. buysolar has built 50 megawatts of arrays in NJ  Some of them like ours were fully financed by btc.

So lets say a minimum of 10 megawatts daily are being generated by us because of btc.

We are not a giant solar company. Just one of many in New Jersey.


New Jersey added 3800 mega watts  of solar last year.

A lot is because of btc. It is a big tool for getting solar built.

There are tons of comparisons between Bitcoin mining versus other day to day use, and the power consumption of Bitcoin mining is very VERY small in comparison, it's almost nothing.

Check this one for instance:

https://i.imgur.com/CNpHjaf.jpg
Source:Bitcoinmagazine


BitcoinSV maximalists are even trying?, at least come up with something that is not so easy to disprove with shitload of data and charts.

good chart.  now add in the fact that a ton of solar arrays are created specifically due to mining coins. the ratio is larger than the image

it the 79 is lower since maybe ⅓ is offset by new solar made for mining.

The problem is that, even if you end up using your electric car, that means you are going to "charge" it instead of put oil in it, well if that electricity that you charge your car with comes from something bad for the environment then it's bad too, doesn't really have any difference at all with regular petrol cars.

This means it is not about using bitcoin, or using cars, or using anything, it is about where the electricity that we use comes from, no matter what we use it for. People think that bitcoin energy spending means bad thing, no, where that energy comes from makes it bad or good. I personally believe as long as we "ban" oil and freaking and what not, and put trillions and trillions from ALL nations into renewable, then we would be fine in just under 10 years.

BSV is green
BTC is not green

Feel the difference

FTFY.

ShitVision only uses less energy because it's a completely worthless crapcoin, perpetuated by scummy criminals and no one in their right mind would touch it.  As such, it makes very little economic sense to waste any hashpower mining it.

OP I don't know why a toxic stupid idiot like you is still doing here in this forum. Your claims are a bunch of nonsense BS. What does it benefit you here? Wasting your time and energy as a keyboard warrior posting negative stuff about the unstoppable Bitcoin?

You can't change the whole world buddy. BTC can't be stopped no matter if it falls down several times whether in the financial or environmental side. It's unbeatable. Not even the governments and banks can stop or control it.

https://i.ibb.co/qm82Pn7/Bitcoin-electricity-consumption.png

Electricity consumption of the bitcoin network since 2016 (annualized) and comparison with the electricity consumption of various countries in 2019. The upper and lower bounds (grey traces) are based on worst-case and best-case scenario assumptions, respectively. The red trace indicates an intermediate best-guess estimate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin
https://cbeci.org/
https://www.eia.gov/international/data/world/electricity/electricity-consumption

1. Most of that energy comes from green sources.
2. Even the waste product of bitcoin mining, heat, can be used for heating homes during the winter (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412448.0).

There is no energy wasted in Bitcoin mining. What goes in, also goes out of the system.

You know, you could utilize those waste products too, but I think CoinGeek and co. are too ignorant to do anything with ESG.

Polluting Bitcoin Mines Come to Rural Georgia


https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/research/polluting-bitcoin-mines-come-to-rural-georgia/