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When I was still new to sports betting, I saw a lot of posts from a company or individual offering their premium pick if you will subscribe to them. The subscription fee defers, some are cheap while some offer a high subscription but they all promise the same thing, "long-term profitability".

So the question here is, does anybody here actually subscribe to any tipster who gives sports betting premium picks, and how much is did you pay?

What was the experience, is it profitable or do you feel you got scammed?

Honestly, i have only tried it once and never ever trusted any tipster on my entire betting activity yet that first time following a tip was a lost even though the fee isnt really that big
but still it do cost me and its much better if i do only follow my own analysis and prediction which if ever it do results in a loss but i wouldnt really that regret.
For sure there are still solid followers out there which it would be interesting on hearing up their real experiences on long term.

I have not done that. There are probably some legit tipsters out there but you really have to think why they need to ask payment if they were that good. Don't they put their money where their mouth is? Are they not confident about their picks that they need assurance should they lose? I've come to a conclusion that most of the people presenting themselves as "experts" do not actually make money from betting on sports so it's better to just do it on your own.

I have never been used to this kind of offer because it's better to seek information about the current team, match, map, line up, standing and etc. That information can be used for your references where is the ideal thing to bet. What sports do you specifically focus on?.
Also if you want to add e-sports betting this platform I mostly visited to check the current standing of the teams.

I'm not saying I'm against that idea of subscribing for a tipster pick but it's just that, why should I spend money on something that I have knowledge on. Regardless of those tipsters are having a good winning rate, no way I will pay money on that as I can rely on my own.

I don't even understand why they are calling it premium picks. It's still the same as normal picks where the chances of winnings are the same.

People have different views and I'm on the side that I won't subscribe to this.

With sports betting you predict the outcome with the knowledge you've got in that particular game. The tipster provider will be doing it based on his knowledge and suggest odds to be picked.

There are trusted service providers as well as scammers. Whoever you subscribe they take credit of the winning bets and ignore or justify the loss. So winning credit is for them and losing credit for us. What's the need for this when we can analyse and select the odds as data regarding the games and related information can be got searching the internet.

I haven't used it myself, but I know there are a lot of active players on the forum who use it. or should we say take advantage of it? It also depends on how much information you get. If a bookmaker estimates a team slightly wrong than its real value, that is quite different from having a B team play while the bookmaker thinks it is just an A team. You might ask yourself whether that is still tolerated by bookmakers. I think they then intervene by canceling bets and closing account.

I am very familiar with soccer game, I knew every aspect of the game and followed EPL passionately, soccer betting is my main area of sport betting in view of that, I don't subscribe to any betting tipster which I think is unnecessary though I never bother to know how reliable those tipsters are, my perception about them is that they usually made their money from many of their teeming subscribers and if their tips are very sure bets and real they ought to have been placing bets themselves and earn money instead of selling their tips.

Does my friend trying it out, count? I wasn't really familiar with the price since I didn't ask, but he did update me one time to teach him the stuff about the Dota2 scene (since I mostly go for eSports) like the favored teams, and stuff like that. From that, I already knew he gave up on the tipster service he was trying out early on. Later on after all the teaching and stuff did he realize that he can do most of the decision making on his own, and might even be more accurate than the service he bought back then.

I experience subscribing one of this so called tipster by the time I’m newly addicted on sports betting to boost my winning rate. It gives me +-60% win rate. They are always giving disclaimer that tipster is still gambling in contrast on what they are claiming for a sure profit when they are recruiting you. I immediately terminate my subscription since there pick is almost same on free tipster website. They are just changing there analysis.

Conclusion: Premium tipster is bullshit.

I never have but I could see why if you gambled a lot that you would. I’ve seen the social media posts where influencers are bragging about how much money you would have made of you followed their picks. Personally I’d rather have my destiny in my own hands and make my own picks. I guess that’s why I’ve never paid for tips. I imagine that at least some of the influencers out there selling their picks have to be somewhat successful. Even if it’s just due to a “lucky” streak.

I haven't. Most of the picks that they give aren't really valuable unless you're a big roller capable of betting hundreds to thousands of dollars in one event. Also, some of the 'analysis' that they do can be found on other sites being discussed by tipsters and other gamblers as well, so I don't think that paying someone to parrot or paraphrase information other people already relayed is important.

IMO, study the game and the teams, and make the analysis yourself. You keep 100% of the winnings and you won't blame anyone else for your losses.

I have not tried to subscribe to any tipster because I am not too familiar with sports betting.
Besides that, I only place a bet in sports betting because I know the teams or players and feel sure that the team or player can win the match.
I realize that subscribing to the tipster costs fees weekly or monthly and instead of subscribing to the tipster, I prefer to use it to place the bet.
I think it is not easy to find a good tipster as many of them are trying to convince their audience that they are pros in their fields.

No, i never subscribe to a profesional tipster, first because i made my own predictions and analisis, and second because when i saw the picks when they promote his businnes are or shit picks, or basic picks like anybody can do.
And for more i see various people who want to know if they have value and buy the subscription, and after do it they show to all the picks in various are the same as the free channel. So pure Scam. I know maybe are a lot of serious pro tipster but take care.

If following the bets of the users in the forum like the boxing and UFC threads considered subscribing to them, I say yes I have subscribed to them. This thread for example of tokeweed is actually a good thread to watch out for because of the tips they are talking about. The boxing threads in the gambling forum also give you an overview of what could be the result.

If you mean a chatroom of tipster asking also for subscription pay, it's not going to be worth it because you will only be listening to one viewpoint.

I have got promotion about premium sport betting picks but I think they can't make accurate predicting about sport competition, ever some one ask me offering to join his premium channel with thousand sport betting predicting exactly on weekend, he showed proof about his last predicting although looks correct prediction but I am not sure about he can predicting 100% correct about sport competition, better make easy with know which one your hobbies football or NBA and you can see with your self when have match which one team dominance for betting without have to subscribe with premium channel.

I cannot remember subscribing to any tipster. I think I wouldn't spend any money on another person's opinion. What I can remember, though, is that I actually placed a number of bets on teams and players recommended by tipsters. If I remember it right, there were a number of tipsters here who gave away free tips. I was thinking those free tips were more or less reliable considering that they are selling subscription. They should somehow provide the most winnable tips because they're trying to establish a name and make a market. Their accuracy is made transparent by their free tips. As expected, though, I was losing more than winning. I had a net negative.

He could edit the proof about his last prediction to convince his potential buyer. I've never joined a premium sports betting option because I was worried it could cost me more money betting even though the outcome might be a win for me. It's going to get me addicted slowly without me realizing it and obviously, it's going to cost me a lot of money if I can't stop controlling myself.

Yes, just betting on a hobby you love is better than betting randomly, even if the predictions come from other people. We don't have enough knowledge about the sport and maybe we might lose one day.

At the end of the day,sports betting IS gambling.And there's no way anyone could make guaranteed profits in gambling.Even if the guy is a sports betting genius,who knows how to predict the games,I'm sure that almost every sports betting platform would kick him out sooner or later,because he just makes too many winning bets.
The other way someone could make predictable/guaranteed profits out of sports betting is putting bets on rigged games.This is illegal and that guy must have connections with mobsters or something.He will be kicked out and banned for life,if the sports betting platforms finds out about this.
I would never use paid tipster services,because such services are more or less selling snake oil to the naive.
You could try matched betting,if you are in the UK.Matched betting is legal and profit is low,but it's a low risk bet.

No I never, I choose either to check some free tips from Groups i am in and also some friends here in forum that has good experience and knowledge about sports betting because why would i Pay for subscription when there is no assurance at all if I am going to win or not.
But i will be following this thread for better understanding and knowledge how this work and how much some taken as win in their experiences of subscribing .

I did try a trial of it and made some money for a while, but after a few weeks, there were continuous losses that just got my capital. I didn't want to subscribe to that because it was just unlucky at that time. I think it's okay if you have the extra money to throw around that it wouldn't affect you in general. Maybe you can try for a few months and check the overall results. It would be fluctuating, but you don't have to overthink where to bet; just how much is the question.

Sometimes results are deceiving. I also remember some tipsters before just playing around the odds of 1.5 and 1.6 which for me, not a good reference when doing a pick especially when they called it as premium pick or paid ones. These kind of lines are considered having a good chance of winning although it's not a sure one.

There are also tipster that will just give a tip without even supporting their tips. I'm more prefer of seeing good analysis beforehand even they don't predict it correctly at the end compare to just giving random tips without explanation.

Agreed, I don't really understand how tipsters play a big role in sports betting. It seems kind of pointless because what if the opposing team was told by your tipster and you think they can win? I believe that if you are into sports betting, you are very familiar with the sport as well as the team and how they perform against their opponents. I believe that tipster is useful if you are new to the sport and do not know who the strong team is. But I, for one, believe I am receiving free advice from my friends, but I do take it as such.

How can the results be deceiving when you yourself are going to bet on it? What I meant in my post is that you check your result over a month and see if you are profiting from it. Not the results published by the tipster provider.

How would you even know if they are not supporting their tips? I don't think they publish their bets though but there's probably a reason why they are choosing that specific bet.

So far I haven't paid money for a subscription on betting tips yet. In the past I tried out some free trial periods to take a look at their predictions, but felt like the bets where too far out of my comfort zone. I prefer to know atleast the basics of where I put my money. The only really money I paid for betting tips was back in university, I had a good friend who was following the second Bundesliga a lot and had good insights into their teams. So me and 3 other friends pooled some money together and let our friend bet all the money for one season. He made us a decent profit and in he go 25% from the profits. In the end we used all our profits to make a one week camping trip.



The experience I had from the free trials I used is that the service was not a scam, the tips seems to have merit and are not just random predictions. The problem for me was that on some of the matches where money was bet on, I knew nothing about and it felt a little wrong to bet money and trust someone without doing my own research. Even if I am not as profitable mysef, I want to inform myself and make some own predictions. This is probably why I mostly bet on esports game. I watch the games for fun and it's some excitment for me to make some bets on the side. It's similar to managing your money, you can trust a fund manager to do it for you, or you take your own bets and risks. Atleast like that you can't blame anyone else than yourself if things go wrong.

Not in my case because I always believe that the recipe for success is to learn on your own, you don't need to rely on a tipster even how good he is because time will come his/her pick will not win anymore and you might not like it and you'll blame yourself for not improving your own skills.

If we are for long term purpose, then we should build ourselves, we might make mistakes but eventually we will achieve some consistency if we correct our mistakes every time we make one.

There's no such thing as "assurance to win" in sports betting, otherwise, those tipsters would just bet on their own as there's no risk at all. They claim that they are profitable, which means they have some loses also, and for sure they will also tell you the bankroll management as it's necessary to survive and hoepfully succeed in the long run.

I have not yet but there are a lot of these and they have a private subscription group some of them are offering free trials to test how good they are, if you are serious about sports betting and you have a huge budget, this can help you make the right betting but like trading these are not perfect, it's still gambling and there's no guaranty of winning still better to do your analysis and the paid subscriptions analysis.

I have subscribed just few months back, they have different tipster and I only follow one of them and it seems a good run however there are some time that they are losing 3-5 times consecutively and they encourage players to increase bets every time we are losing and they always says to follow the fund management guide so we would not be able to lose all of our money.

I think if you are not familiar with the sports or in sports betting in general I think you can use tipster service but if you are familiar with the sports and you like it, definitely you don't need tipster since you can analyze the game by yourself.

I don't use the tipster that you have to subscribe and pay money whether premium or VIP or whichever because it doesn't really work the way it is made in promise. I have been in telegram for some tipster and see that they only post winning result when there is winning and they don't post loses all the time like in the case of winnings  ;D So I decided is better to research on games and make your prediction for yourself and take charge of the outcome. If you make winning predictions, that will increase your confidence level that is the good thing about DYOR on betting.

I have never been interested with tipster services, simply because I dont want to spend some money for such service.
For me it is better if we play sports betting based on our own knowledge as the feel will be different.
Imagine we pay for such service but the tips is not even better than our own prediction, it would be something useless.
It is also not worth to pay tipster service (at least for me) as I do not bet big on sports betting.
Of course everyone has their own references and opinion about tipster service so you are free to choose.

I have never used such services, but one of my friends did. Naturally, after he was in the red, he stopped buying forecasts. And these were not online predictions, but offline from a "knowledgeable" better.
Personally, I think that if someone can profit from long-term betting, then there is no point in selling predictions for him. Maybe it was relevant before, since fiat bookmakers get rid of winning bettors in different ways, but now, when there are many ways to bet without KYC, this is illogical.

An interesting thread I think because maybe they or anyone else here has had or has ever subscribed to a really profitable secret tipster, or maybe the other way around so that it can be a good experience that can be shared. For me personally, I have never subscribed to and or followed anyone's choice in betting, even though it is betting on sports that I do not understand very well about related sports. That little check or analysis might also be helpful when betting on unknown sports, but sometimes it's based solely on odds.

I have never used this kind of services so it would be very difficult to judge if it is a good service or if it is a close service but what i can say is that from what i understand about sports betting i think people good at sports betting don't go keep giving tips for the world to be winning, what happens is that they create channels to be able to have money to place bets because they know that betting is something that is easily lost money and with telegram channels they created a way to make money without losing money and the ones who lose money are the guys who pay these channels because they lose money when they buy a subscription and when they lose a bet, it's a double loss situation

Just like me, I prefer sports betting because I have things to do before betting, I mean looking up overall information about the team or sport to be played in order to make a choice or score before doing it. And in that way it will develop my knowledge and insight and other reasons I like sports so it's really fun.

I was once offered a bet as the OP said from a friend of mine, and I turned it down because I didn't get any impression because I prefer sports betting to work or do something before deciding.

Actually, it's not too much different, it's just that we are provided with a kind of choice with a high probability level according to VIP members. But here in my opinion it is better to use your own predictions based on the level of analysis that we are used to. Even guessing is also not a problem, because we can look for references at will. Usually, the premium entry tip also depends on how we trust the advice of the people in it, especially the bookies. I've been for some time back but it feels like when compared to our manual bets, it's not too much different.

You have subscribed so I guess you are not really good enough when it comes to sports betting but you are lucky because it looks like you are profiting well in the tips service that you used. It's okay to experience a loss sometimes because they are only humans and it will be strange if they are unbeatable and the casino that your betting is going to suspect you.

Losing consecutively is not good though at the start or if you don't earn anything yet to prove that you are on a legit service. They encourage users to increase bets after losing I think that is for them to recover their previous loses, it was like a martingale but done in sports betting but it can be risky since your also increasing your loses.

I've never tried to subscribe, so far I've often received offers to subscribe but for some reason, I'm not interested and prefer to bet according to my own wishes. In my opinion, as long as we can find information, then it won't be too much of a burden for us to bet with confidence. Regarding sports betting, maybe for me, it is not too important to subscribe to premium services.

I have never subscribed any of these service but I have encountered several scammers (as you can see from trust rating that I have left) here on forum .
Likewise
People claiming to provide "rigged match" (just for a tip in case of win!)
People claiming to guess "winning horses" but meanwhile they were just posting generally and non sense predictions
and other not tagged because completely not trustable by the scratch... not dangerous.

Some years ago I have sold 1% of my stake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1565169.0 in a betting competition.
There are not such competitions :( but at the end the user that made this purchase realized an easy profit ;)

I think of paid tipsters in the same way that I think about those that give paid trading signals, if they could actually give good tips to the point they could make someone else profitable then this means they could do the same for themselves, but why are they not doing it? Instead of selling their premium picks for money why not use them to make themselves rich in the process? And when I think of this in that way I cannot help to think that the majority of those tipsters probably cannot give you any real edge against the casinos.

It happened to a pal, and it wasn't just money for him, it was money that his mother placed on his account for his Master's in Canada, but you know how addiction can drive someone to do things that don't make sense. This is one of the major impending scams in my area, they call it sure ODDS, and the question I asked myself was, if this genuinely works for them, why go to such lengths to get others to give you money to play instead of doing it all yourself?
You'll see them in Facebook groups, local forums, and bet shops standing behind the door, and it's beyond me why you'd believe an unknown person would want to share your legitimate tip of winning your ticket in the first place.

And they are the same! They can't earn from betting and trading, so they found a way to sell fog and earn from that! Probably some of them hit something here and there, but most of us can do that by ourselves, so why would we pay for that!?

I never paid for any betting tip, and I never will! I enjoy watching stats of teams and their previous games, I read some sports pages here and there, sometimes there is useful info, I also like to check sites like BettingExpert (https://www.bettingexpert.com/) and to see how some other people see the next games...

I guess we can either enjoy sports betting and its perks, or we shouldn't bet! Relying on someone else is never advisable, except if you know that person and you are sure of their skills and experience!

Some people said for having more extra income but in just in some common sense thing then you would definitely be saying that they wont really be needing those sub fees if they could really make

money for themselves by just putting up some big bets and made tons of profits and with that alone then you could really say that they are just still simple predicting but somehow there are people who
do look for prediction success rate on which if they do saw its high then they might consider on following them which it is a personal kind of  choice.

A nice topic. Personally, I don't subscribe to this program by those "tipsters" but I have been in several Telegram groups of those since there are free picks provided them as a proof. But sometimes their free picks are not backed up by a real bet slip. It's like simply they will just post their picks. Therefore if it's a win, it's already recorded as a win on their prediction stats which is not good for me since it should be associated with valid bet slip.

Moving forward, as a sports bettor for long and involved in sports at my young age, I don't really needs these tips especially in the sports or leagues that I have knowledge on. I'm just sticking with my main forte instead of jumping to betting on other leagues which I'm not familiar.

I've got friends that are sharing some insights and predictions for some particular match. It's like a passed on information for that prediction and it's for free.

I don't know their source but it seems reliable, there were still some losses but very minimal. I guess it's not from any paid tipster but it's more on an conventional tipping where they gather information for an upcoming match and filters information that could affect the result since it's sportsbetting.

A current state of a team or a player really affects the game's performance for that upcoming match.

Uhhmm no. Subscribing to any tipser giving sports betting premium picks is like paying hundreds of dollars to join one of those "legit trading signal groups" where people who lose money because of bad trades blame the group or the individual trader for FUD or making the trade at the wrong time.

Its all a scam. Anyone who has actual real tips is not sharing that with anyone except his insider circle rich friends.

What would be the point of giving away tips about who is best and who is not? The more people know, the less value the bet has.

I haven't tried subscribing to any tipster for premium tips. I don't believe them either. I know there are channels in Telegram and others dedicated for paid membership of these tipsters. I doubt they are taking much profit from these. Some are even claiming to have inside information about match fixing and negotiations. They are all bullshit. I am betting on my own assessment. I don't bet on matches I have no idea about.

I often get invitations to join several tipser channels both on telegram and other social media, but the experience of some of my friends who have tried it they say if not entirely the tips and predictions they get can guarantee victory in a bet, I think instead of spending money for inaccurate information is better to use the money for betting capital, now there may be many media that provide free information related to sports matches and of course based on that information we can make our own predictions.

Yup, I tried them a few times and I still remember a couple of picks ended up losing, for me the experience is a hit or miss as there are certain tipsters that could put you on a profitable week then there are others that could put you in the hole.

After going through that weird experience, all I can say is that it's best to go with your own picks if you don't know where to start stick with the sports you like to watch and bet little by little until you get familiar with most of the teams you're betting on. Even if you have a big bankroll it's not worth going for paid picks knowing that most of the information you can find like stats, trends, injuries are available for everyone.

Better try with own analyze without have joined with betting premium picks and I don't sure they have accurate predicting with sport competition, I think they only take care how to get many member with subscribe each member almost 30$ until 50$ and we need to pay each month, but if you want to know how accurate with sport betting premium picks maybe you can subscribe it for one month only and lets see with their predicting, that true or always wrong predicting with sport betting games.

Yes, I subscribed to a free picks service once that demanded that I pay every time I win - which in retrospective was obviously a scam.

Initially I did win a bit, but looking back it was definitely luck.

There are a lot of tipsters who just prey on people who are just entering the space and want quick money. Think about why they would want to provide a service, especially free ones, when they could be capitalizing off these market inefficiencies themselves.

Not yet but I was planning to, this is the tipster I am interested with https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387081.0 but they are new and I just want to see more of their bets before I would be convinced to join his group, I am actually not sure if this would be profitable or not I am just curious since I see a lot of tipster offering their service here. I just hope that it will be a good investment for myself.

I think tipsters are just scamming people, they are giving you tips on what team to place your bet on when you can actually do an analysis of your own If you're truly into that sport.
Now, If you're not sure about the teams you want to place a bet on and you're depending on tipsters, well that's the same as giving your money to someone who knows how to trade.

IMO, If there's a legit tipster that gives you an accurate results, then I doubt the sport itself is a fraud and it's conducting fixed games.

Am sorry to say this but all these tipster services all they do is provide the tipster a form of financing for his/her bets without actually using their personal funds, but in terms of performance the numbers dont look pretty to convince anybody to subcribe on these services. But based on the rules of gambling, you win some and lose some... Its not everyday that will be milk and honey.

I don't have the experience but I think it's not scam but it's not profitable as well.

I would rather trust myself that trust other people, they won't be with me all the time and if I am really serious to be a profitable sports bettor, then I should trust my self, and it should start by developing my skills until I become better and more consistent in winning.

I'm not sure how to believe this thing and that is the reason why I don't want to try even before. I'm not accusing these services of scam thing but we can't deny that most of those sites that offer/promise huge returns and long-term profitability is turn into scams in the end.
Maybe I have nothing to say about this stuff for I have no experience as well (I don't have a plan either) but it always comes into my mind the tricks in gambling that these tipsters will do. I'd choose to be lucky and win rather than of getting fooled.

You'll have to pay for the subscription fee if you want to be a member, and you'll get the premium pick for you to follow, and even how good they are, it does not guarantee that you'll win, they just based it on their record and they claim themselves to be profitable.

Bottom line, they have no responsibility to you if you lose, you just have to trust thema and take the risk.

That way you don't have to spend.

Somehow I stumble upon a tipser but all I have to do is to join and take the opportunity to take the free picks and if somehow it ended and the owner wants to pay those picks then I'd leave or the owner will just kicked me on that group. Haven't been onto any paid tipser in my gambling journey since it's likely not my type or I just trust my instincts and judgement upon what I bet, especially on sports betting.

I don't have the experience to use tipster placing the bet on the sports as I don't really trust them. Perhaps, they are good enough to have the skills to analyze every match, but those tipsters require us to pay some fees to get their info, and they don't feel responsible if we lose because of their predictions. I prefer to follow those who share the info for free because sometimes, they can share many things related to the matches without thinking about the money, only share what they know and let us decide.

I don't have an experience subscribing to any tipser channel and actually I am reading other member here sharing their experiences. Actually I don't feel like in my betting activities I will use a third party group because yeah mostly it just end up for a lost or scam money, sorry for the term but this is mostly what happen especially if you don't research properly the site and the background of the tipser channel. In my betting activities I would still prefer to directly put my money on the betting site.

That one service you're interested to is I think not new but if I'm not mistaken I already heard of them before. Maybe they have only renovated their thread or something but it's up to you, I never used them myself because I'm already confident with my ability and I don't want to waste extra cash for such service.

If you want to, you can also try older services than them because you said there are lots of them? But, brawlbets prediction service have some nice terms in which they can return your money if the tips doesn't guarantee you a win or they can give you more free tips as an incentive for not winning your previous bets. I'm not sure though if this terms is also offered on others tipping service.

More precisely, too much money to pay for premium services and if the outcome of the bet is still no difference why should we be interested in subscribing. So it's true that a lot of people also don't want third parties to bet if they can still manually analyze their own information. For lazy people who know that they have excess money, they may not worry too much if they just subscribe.

We have the same realization. I also tried subscribing to tipster once and it only lead me to losses. From then on, I decided to follow my own instinct and prediction. Most of them aren't reliable and would only cost us too much. As for me, it would be better if we'll know how to decide on our own than relying on others' predictions.

Sometimes the platforms allow their users to get a community chat mostly I saw this kind of feature in e-sports gambling and they are giving their thoughts like do bet here because good win of course at the end of the day it's your decision to make a wage on that team or not. Better to make your own research preventing losing too much money because of the gut feel of other people having their own research is the most ideal thing.

Yes, this is similar to an open discussion, but I've noticed that these types of chats attract a large number of trolls, which could have a negative impact on the community. I recall reading somewhere that this type of open discussion is truly a gold mine because there are so many professional players who are willing to share tips and tricks in the open chat and you can make friends as a result of it. It is true that I have made friends through it, and we are also talking about gambling, but on social media rather than on those websites because the community on those websites is not good. There are also a lot of people who are now giving false tips on those types of chats in order to cause the players to lose.

One of the problems that you would able to see out that information wouldnt really be that clear due to those trolls around on which it do make things harder for you to seek for some worthy tip.
Couldnt blame out other people on why they do really hesitate out on following someone because no precise prediction could be made out and all of it would be remain out speculation.
You could check out for yourself about success rates though if you would consider out those kind of qualities before joining or tending to follow them out.

Much better to do that, if they have some good predictions and tips and it's working on them. Well, they should keep it to themselves and make money from it if it's really effective.
But the reality is that they're making money from the sale of the tips and not from the actual tips. So imagine if they've got a lot of subscribers, that's a lot of money. Analyzing and researching can be done by us if we really want to have a knowledge about a game that's about to happen.

I've never subscribed to this sort of service and doubt I ever would. It fits into the same ballpark as get rich quick schemes and does not make much logical sense when you see it through from start to end. If someone was so good at predicting sports that they could eek out a consistent edge against sportsbooks then they would be foolish to offer that information to anyone else. The fact is they can't, or at least there are so many fakers out there that you will waste all your money ever finding a genuine one - who might stop tomorrow if they had any sense. Sportsbooks aren't stupid either, if they found such a person they would either hire them or monitor them to adjust odds against

^ Basically, I don't believe those tipsters so I did not have an experience like this even though I am more frequent in sports betting.
Just imagine, why do they bother themselves giving tips others, having this kind of offering service if they know even themselves that this is 100% working. Why not do it on their own just to make money, right?
Yeah, that what was I have felt, just like I have got scammed if I will subscribe to them, instead, making my own research is technically free and I don't need those tipsters.

This is what my take here also. If they are sure they have high percentage of winning, why not use that to their own advantage? They can easily make money if they will keep it to themselves if what they are claiming is true. And yet, they want to attract naive bettors to pay for a premium package to get access with their tips? It is understandable that most players here don't subscribe to tipsters. Because they are mostly good in talks only. But the actual stats? They won't give you the full picture of it.

They just exist because they want to earn on possible upcoming subscription and I doubt they are 100% sure to the suggestions they given since provably they are just like us predicting the game and only based which team is strong at the moment and check if there's injury on the team since this will give really an advantage to the opponent team to win when live event happen.

In my experience, almost closed to getting on the way back to my newbie days in gambling. Not here in the forum but to a local forum that was a popular pitstop of discussion almost over a decade ago. The reason why I almost got hooked on these sports tipsters offering subscriptions is not actually the sports but the profit that they are gaining on every bet.

Admit it, some people don't really like the gambling subject or concept but what matters to them is only gaining profit regardless of what is. That's the reason why tipsters attract even those non-gamblers because it's all about money money money.

Maybe they try to subscribe premium spot betting pick because lazy for predicting several spot match competition and want to know how effective with premium channel predicting, the same with signal premium on cryptocurrency when found several trader not have enough time to analyze which one coin have to buy, so they try instant way with subscribe sport betting premium picks and during income by joining this premium channel more benefit is fine  but if always wrong predicting have waste much money for paying premium channel have to pay high for joining.

Not only minding about having a small group because you are still basically charging a commision from it which i dont see any difference into those sold to gamblers in small price.
If you do really mind on getting profits bigtime then you could simply make out big bets for yourself without having the hassle and complicating things.
I dont really believe on any tipster yet that very common sense question is always been asked on first line.

Exactly, even if they are giving any tips somehow at the back of your mind there are doubts on those bets. I've been there tbh and I feel that way and I really did my own research and decisions these days, may it a losing or a winning bet, luck is having a few percentage on that instinct.

It's not about being lazy, you already mentioned it yourself not everyone has the time to spend on looking for the best pick and taking them at those odds before it swings.

It's kind of similar to the sportsbook subreddit where people post most of their tips and a minority of the successful ones suddenly go with the paid route and they're shunned by the community once they do so.

Even if there's doubts I still appreciate others posting picks as long as there's reasoning since not all tipster share their thoughts on their picks and just post it.

Experience to join this kind before and I didn't this one helpful actually since in the end we will still unsure about the result, we are just wasting our money if there's premium subscription ask in the group so for newbies its good to rely on what you are noticing about the sports you familiarized with since if you are a sports fan for sure you provably know what can give you a higher percentage to win and we don't need anything useless in that case.

Honestly you can very easily go through the discussions on the forum as well and people generally have various threads open which does mean that you can get advice from there as well, considering that you are seeking advice, generally I don't think that it is a good idea to involve anyone giving you tips since it's not assured that it's going to be 100% working and at the same time at the end of the day the person might end up scamming you. It's better to watch the sport yourself or ask your friends for advice as well if you are not sure but trusting someone just like that might not end up good.
Also another person made a good point about the chats on the gambling platforms, they also have a lot of people giving literally free advice and everything most of the people I have seen there didn't give any bad advice at all.

I've never done such thing because I'm a paranoid person who always doubt new things that seems fishy to me. I mean, if I could do it my own, I wouldn't trust someone else's judgment regarding on where to bet to make profits, I'd rather lose money with my own decisions rather than losing my money because of other people decision. Sports betting is very chill to make, to be honest, no need to subscribe to tipster.

Unfortunately, all these scattered tips cannot be evaluated in terms of effectiveness. Sometimes people guess the result without any analytics, but this does not mean that they are good forecasters and that their next tip will also be successful. The value of forecasts can only be seen at a distance of hundreds of events. I've seen only a couple of threads of such scale here on the forum.

Therefore, we just need to know how effective it is between subscribing and manuals without subscribing. When viewed from the percentage of profits that tend to have satisfactory results, there is no harm in trying. However, it seems that most prefer to bet manually on instinct and rely on self-discovered information.

I've done it once and to be honest, it wasn't a good experience since the suggested predictions aren't accurate. I was so disappointed that I have wasted my funds on them. It's still an advantage if we'll know how to make predictions ourselves. Sports betting still needs knowledge about our sports of choice for us to be able to deal with the game flow. It's better to be knowledgeable than to rely on tipsters.

It was never predictable on the first place and it would be just normal that they would really be giving off those disclaimers since they dont like on getting being blamed if a particular bet was a lose.

So its not surprising that everything wouldnt really be that an assurance for you to win and its true that it is much more better if you do make your own analysis on any bets that you do potentially
consider to bet on and wont tend to rely nor depend into those tipsters which are just basically just the same like ours on which we could also make our own research on our own and will
be applying into it.

It's more fulfilling if we succeed in sports betting by our own efforts only, but those who are looking for an easy path, they can try subscribing to a tipster but always evaluate the result, otherwise, you won't be able to notice that you are already losing a lot of money if you don't keep track of your record.

Even following a successful tipster could also result in failure, why? because discipline is very important as well, and effective bankroll management must be implemented.

It would be a waste if you have knowledge and yet you still pay someone or a group to get tips in sports betting. Maybe it's for those who doesn't have vast knowledge about picks in sport betting especially in premium picks. Tipster are not 100% reliable if you ask me so , I wouldn't bother to pay for a tipster when I can learn it myself so I don't have to spend extra money just to receive tips from a tipster unless you are rich and doesn't matter if you pay extra for tipster.

If we refer to satisfaction, the results from our own analysis are better for us to use as a guide. Betting is more free to determine and if it doesn't match our expectations, we will not blame others for the bets we make. From the point of view of the decision that is more objective for us to use. In addition to knowing the conditions of the bets made, we are also less burdened.

Exactly, I mean what's the point of using or subscribing to any tipser when you have already a knowledge how to bet. For me, winning in sports betting is more rewarding for me when I win if I bet on my own, I get the reward which is the prize also I get the chance to improve my betting knowledge. For me, there will be a huge benefits of betting on your own than relying on tipser's tips because you may not know that tipser could give a 100% reliable information of who's team will going to win.

Didn't I made myself clear that it is a waste if you pay for a tipster when you have the knowledge to bet in premium picks?. I would say that it is indeed no point in paying tipster to help you bet but some people would still pay tipster (finding the cheapest tipster or not) not for helping you to make a bet but to compare the tips that the tipster give to your own knowledge to tip. It is more like gathering information instead of asking for help on what to bet and not to bet. Is this clear enough?.

I want to add also that as far games are concerned in betting, whether gathering information from pay groups and personal knowledge is not a guarantee because there have been times we saw upset in matches especially in English league where presumed big teams lose against the teams called big teams. I classify gambling with some luck involved in it.

So far I haven't tried paying a tipster to increase my chances of winning since I think they were like almost fixing the game. Though it's not like straight connected to the game but giving tips here and there seems like he's giving some choices to others. That's why I can't completely trust a tipster. And just like what the other said, if you have the knowledge about gambling or the game, then why bother give a tip to someone if his choices is just the same as yours?

It would feel like someone is taking your money with the knowledge that you have, though it's up to us if we would rely to a tipster.

Moreover I have the feeling a tipster can create different identities to promote different games' results simultaneously for a same game, so one of his profiles will be always sharing correct predictions and building a positive reputation, that is useful to attract customers, but not solid on long run anyway.

I wouldn't pay for predictions, unless I knew the person very well and trusted his job through my own eyes and not someone else's experience.

Amazing, something like this never occurred to me before, but if someone makes more tipster accounts anywhere and throws out different predictions for each match, one is probably a hit, with any result he increases the rating of at least one account! This sounds like a real scam, and probably someone has to do this for a long time in order to gather enough people on each of the accounts! It's amazing how fraudsters try to cheat and take people's money for nothing!

I totally agree with you, when you know someone then it's different, but when it comes to the internet people shouldn't trust anything! It's something we all know but looks like many people get blinded by promises of easy, fast, and big profit and they make foolish mistakes and lose what they had! I feel like that happens all the time around us, new blood comes every day!

^ Based on luck could be there but the information you may get will probably give a chance or increase your chances to win, though there is no guarantee the chances of winning will surely boost. For me, I will combine them all, having research and at the same time have a preference that comes from a tipster, all you have to do is to confirm the prediction that comes from the tipster before you will place a bet. I think that is more reliable than you are relying on the tipster's work.

Relying on a tipsters work alone is laziness. You may think it brings you closer to winning alone, but at same time you must know that it brings you closer to loosing as well. A tipster? sound almost like a Trickster, lol, i wouldn't trust any of them. Subscribing to a tipster shows too much intent to make money and that puts too much pressure on an individual, which can result to depression when one looses. Develop yourself, better to loose money learning, than loose money not learning.