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Title: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: decodx on March 02, 2022, 09:14:50 PM
In the wake of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, more and more sports have followed the IOC's call to ban Russian athletes from competing. I will try to compile all of those links here for your information.

Feb 28, 2022 - The Executive Board (EB) of the International Olympic Committee (IOC) recommends no participation of Russian and Belarusian athletes and officials

https://i.imgur.com/b5RBwT2.png
https://twitter.com/iocmedia/status/1498297977366102024

The International Chess Federation (https://www.fide.com/) (FIDE) has already responded by announcing that the flags of Russia and Belarus will not be displayed and the anthems of these countries will not be played at international events held by FIDE.
https://twitter.com/FIDE_chess/status/1498026831089487882

The Executive Committee of the World Karate Federation (https://www.wkf.net/) (WKF) unanimously decided to move the tournament to another site and strip Moscow of its hosting rights.
https://twitter.com/worldkarate_wkf/status/1498228985318174721

The International Skating Union (https://www.isu.org/) (ISU) said no athletes from Russia or Belarus "shall be invited or allowed to participate" in events until further notice.
ISU Statement on the Ukrainian crisis (https://www.isu.org/isu-news/news/145-news/14024-isu-statement-on-the-ukrainian-crisis-participation-in-international-competitions-of-skaters-and-officials-from-russia-and-belarus?templateParam=15)

The International Badminton Federation (BWF) has cancelled tournaments planned for Russia and Belarus. It has also determined that neither the flags will be displayed nor the anthems be played of the countries at any of its events.
BWF statement (https://bwfbadminton.com/news-single/2022/03/01/bwf-statement-in-response-to-ioc-eb-recommendations/)

International Basketball Federation (FIBA) has also announced that Russian teams and officials will not be allowed to participate in FIBA Basketball and 3x3 Basketball competitions.
https://www.fiba.basketball/news/fiba-statement-on-russian-teams-and-officials

FIFA announced that it was suspending Russian representative teams (men's and women's). UEFA also announced that club sides would be removed from all competitions. This means Russia won't be participating in the World Cup in Qatar. Spartak Moscow have also been removed from the Europa League.
FIFA and UEFA joint statement (https://www.fifa.com/tournaments/mens/worldcup/qatar2022/media-releases/fifa-uefa-suspend-russian-clubs-and-national-teams-from-all-competitions)

UEFA also confirmed that it was ending its deal with sponsor Gazprom, worth €40 million a year.

U.S. Soccer (https://www.ussoccer.com/) issued a statement to join other soccer federations in refusing to play Russia.
https://twitter.com/ussoccer/status/1498325273552596996

The International Ice Hockey Federation (https://www.iihf.com/) (IIHF) Council has suspended all Russian and Belarusian national and club teams from IIHF competitions until further notice and withdrew the hosting rights of the 2023 #WorldJuniors from Russia.
Bob Nicholson, IIHF Vice President, said, "There are a lot of sports, but hockey probably hits Putin the hardest."
https://twitter.com/IIHFHockey/status/1498387598246621188

Russian and Belarusian tennis players can play on the ATP and WTA tours, but without displaying their national flags, and at the Grand Slams. However, they are barred from participating in team competitions, such as Davis Cup and BJK Cup, until further notice.
Joint Statement by the International Governing Bodies of Tennis (https://www.wtatennis.com/news/2510418/joint-statement-by-the-international-governing-bodies-of-tennis)

The International Ski Federation (https://www.fis-ski.com/en/international-ski-federation/news-multimedia/news-2022/russian-and-belarusian-athletes-not-to-take-part-in-fis-competitions) (FIS) cancels all remaining 2021-22 season events in Russia and bans Russian athletes from all competitions.

The World Athletics Council (https://worldathletics.org/news/press-releases/world-athletics-council-sanctions-russia-and-belarus) has agreed to impose sanctions against the Member Federations of Russia and Belarus as a consequence of the invasion of Ukraine.

In an address to the Council, World Athletics President Sebastian Coe said: "Anyone who knows me will understand that imposing sanctions on athletes because of the actions of their government goes against the grain. I have railed against the practice of politicians targeting athletes and sport to make political points when other sectors continue about their business. This is different as governments, business and other international organisations have imposed sanctions and measures against Russia across all sectors. Sport has to step up and join these efforts to end this war and restore peace. We cannot and should not sit this one out."


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
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Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: zidanw on March 02, 2022, 09:23:08 PM
I normally see all Russian athletes showing their support for Ukraine, but there was an exceptional situation in chess. Top chess player Sergey Karjakin has expressed his support for Putin. Chess players are intelligent people, especially at a high level. I wonder what possesses him to write such a thing on twitter. Could play that he used to be a resident of Ukraine, he now seems to have Russian nationality. That could play into it, maybe he left the country there with a lot of fights. Otherwise you are not going to show your support for Putin for any reason.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Hamphser on March 02, 2022, 09:40:30 PM
I normally see all Russian athletes showing their support for Ukraine, but there was an exceptional situation in chess. Top chess player Sergey Karjakin has expressed his support for Putin. Chess players are intelligent people, especially at a high level. I wonder what possesses him to write such a thing on twitter. Could play that he used to be a resident of Ukraine, he now seems to have Russian nationality. That could play into it, maybe he left the country there with a lot of fights. Otherwise you are not going to show your support for Putin for any reason.
When it comes to personal perspective and views then dont expect that everyone would really be doing on to the same path.We do have our own will and decide for ourselves on which
or whose would be gonna be supported whether being a Russian turns out to be supportive with Ukraine or would totally be that loyal on the place where they do live in.
I dont see for Intelligence to have some major role on choosing on which one you should really support off.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Rruchi man on March 02, 2022, 10:19:31 PM
I personally think some of these reactions sports is having towards some russian athletes and other personels from Russia who have really fought hard to be where they are today totally too extreme and without consideration. Some of them are just Russians by Nationality but have been in the west and other regions so much that they can identify with them. Why disregard all contributions they have made when we all know that they may not all be in support of the invasion.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: sunsilk on March 02, 2022, 10:26:16 PM
There's also the Motorsport UK: Russian drivers in Formula 1 banned from competing in UK (https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/60586914)

The same goes for gaming/esports.

Russian-based CS:GO teams banned from BLAST Premier events, CIS qualifier canceled amid Ukraine conflict (https://dotesports.com/counter-strike/news/russian-based-csgo-teams-banned-blast-premier)

Ukrainian official calls for Xbox, PlayStation, and others to bar Russian players amid invasion (https://www.polygon.com/22958035/ukraine-war-gaming-companies-ban-russian-players)

Virtus.pro removed from GAMERS GALAXY: Invitational Series Dubai 2022 (https://egamersworld.com/dota2/news/13808/virtuspro-removed-from-gamers-galaxy-invitational--mn0W6EiLS)

Virtus.Pro is a Russian based esports organization.

These players are also considered athletes on this time playing e-sports. And all of these organizations and sporting community had agreed to imposed sanctions due to their government's attack.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: CaVO32 on March 02, 2022, 10:29:29 PM
I personally think some of these reactions sports is having towards some russian athletes and other personels from Russia who have really fought hard to be where they are today totally too extreme and without consideration. Some of them are just Russians by Nationality but have been in the west and other regions so much that they can identify with them. Why disregard all contributions they have made when we all know that they may not all be in support of the invasion.

This is one repercussion that Russian-affiliated individuals will receive from all around the globe. Even if they are not pro-Putin, some will still identify them as part of the Russian community, thus, the approach of people towards them. This is owed to their power-hungry President. He doesn't care what will happen to his people because of his aggression. It is like countries will be isolating the Russians from all the other people in the world, which is actually sad for those innocents and just want to live their life peacefully.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: DoublerHunter on March 02, 2022, 10:43:44 PM
^ I am not on their side but I feel pity for them because they are innocent people and I don't know if they are even a pro-Putin which they are.
It seems there is discrimination against all Russian players and athletes because their country invaded Ukraine and now they are suffering too from what their country did. There is too many sports event that has been canceled or postponed, the gambling industry was been affected too.
Nevertheless, this is not the right.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: harizen on March 02, 2022, 10:53:16 PM

It seems unethical for me to just ban Russian players to participate because of an on-going invasion of their country against Ukraine. Like I said in other thread, it seems that the Russian action is not totally the country's fight but for just the sake of their leader's ego. Not all Russians wants this conflict. Putin just hit hard with his ego that's why straight from his air-conditioned room, he is just providing some commands.

However, just come to think of it. The whole world, most of the countries, are condemning the attack of Russia to Ukraine resulting in some "hate"t o other people's view towards Russia. With this ban of Russian players, that's make sure that no one would possibly physically hurt the athletes from those fans who are watching live on their games as we don't know what other people thinks about Russia currently. The safety of these players should be prioritized in the first place.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: DU18 on March 02, 2022, 10:55:31 PM
I agree with what the international sports committees did in banning russia who invaded ukraine from competing in world sports, but has the committee been doing fair rules so far?
Because as far as I know it seems that the world sports committee tends to be more aggressive when the ukraine state was invaded, but they were silent when the americas invaded aghanistan and the middle east, so it seems the world sports committee prefers to turn a blind eye to what israel is doing to palestine until recently.
Honestly, I see that there seems to be injustice in the decision, if they really criticize Russia actions,  of course they should take action against Israel, which continues to kill Palestinians...!

STOP THE WAR AND GIVE FOR FREEDOM FOR PALESTINE And UKRAINE

https://i.ibb.co/mTbNfyh/IMG-20220303-055239.jpg


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Saint-loup on March 02, 2022, 10:59:34 PM
In the wake of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, more and more sports have followed the IOC's call to ban Russian athletes from competing. I will try to compile all of those links here for your information.
[...]
Moreover several european and world leaders are pushing for regulating, freezing and banning russian financial assets, and they don't want russians to circumvent those sanctions thanks to the help of cryptocurrencies. Then they are ready to attack cryptocurrencies with measures similar to the canadian measures. It means russian exchanges and gambling platforms or exchanges and gambling platforms mainly used by them could be targeted by those sanctions. For crypto gamblers that's a two-bladed sword.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: iv4n on March 02, 2022, 11:15:09 PM
It's war, and in war, all means are allowed, right ?! I don't think there has ever been so much dust around a war before, and it's not that this is the only war in the world! Too much propaganda and inaccurate information create so much hatred among people that it is impossible to describe, people choose sides and this does not lead to anything good. Day by day, the conflict seems to be getting bigger and it is involving more and more participants, there's a saying in football "there is no one to calm the ball" and I think that all this will last! Big question is when will all this end and how!

Great players play their games and as usual, many rules do not apply to them! We often hear that politics and sports should not be mixed, but it always happens! This is an example of when politics uses sports for its own purposes! To be clear, this is not about me defending Russian politics or not showing solidarity with the Ukrainian people, I am always against any war, but also against politics interfering in sport and involving sports in war! This is not the first time that sports institutions have fallen under pressure and chose side, and I think that is wrong, very wrong! At the same time, they are not always fair and correct, as real athletes should be! I sincerely hope that some big shit won't happen to everyone, the pressure from both sides is great, and under the pressure, things are can explode!

Sports should be used to unite, not divide people!


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: AmoreJaz on March 02, 2022, 11:24:23 PM
In the wake of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, more and more sports have followed the IOC's call to ban Russian athletes from competing. I will try to compile all of those links here for your information.
[...]
Moreover several european and world leaders are pushing for regulating, freezing and banning russian financial assets, and they don't want russians to circumvent those sanctions thanks to the help of cryptocurrencies. Then they are ready to attack cryptocurrencies with measures similar to the canadian measures. It means russian exchanges and gambling platforms or exchanges and gambling platforms mainly used by them could be targeted by those sanctions. For crypto gamblers that's a two-bladed sword.

well, let's see how this situation pans out in the next coming months.. as putin will not stop this invasion. there will be more unfortunate events that will be received by his people. i am not seeing putin to back down and admit his mistakes...
do you think he's ready to be isolated? but china is not cooperating. as it says from this article -  China will not join sanctions on Russia, banking regulator says (https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/china-banking-regulator-sees-limited-impact-sanctions-russia-2022-03-02/), it goes to show that China is indeed an ally of Russia. as they are the biggest countries in the world, i believe they can live on their own. however, there will be negative impact on its people.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: robelneo on March 02, 2022, 11:30:24 PM
Now they will feel isolated in the sporting world because of Putin's action but the one that will really hurt the Russian are the financial and banking organizations to ban them, it will have a big effect on their economy and finances of Russia, but it's good that the sports organizations around the world let their decision known that they are against this aggression, it's only a matter of time before Putin yield or stop the aggression.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: kaya11 on March 03, 2022, 05:53:05 AM
I normally see all Russian athletes showing their support for Ukraine, but there was an exceptional situation in chess. Top chess player Sergey Karjakin has expressed his support for Putin. Chess players are intelligent people, especially at a high level. I wonder what possesses him to write such a thing on twitter. Could play that he used to be a resident of Ukraine, he now seems to have Russian nationality. That could play into it, maybe he left the country there with a lot of fights. Otherwise you are not going to show your support for Putin for any reason.

So true, they have deeper understanding and reasoning that most common people do not understand. In my beliefs if you go against your ruler and plans to humiliate him in front of his constituents and people under his rule, giving him bad image etc, it would only worsen, your countries law and order will fall in some point. Games includes deep thinking are not to be taken lightly , they think before they move, so should we. We should think and comprehend before we make accusations and comments that we don't have sound proof, these guys have wisdoms than most of the social media influencers out there.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: dimonstration on March 03, 2022, 06:21:41 AM
Now they will feel isolated in the sporting world because of Putin's action but the one that will really hurt the Russian are the financial and banking organizations to ban them, it will have a big effect on their economy and finances of Russia, but it's good that the sports organizations around the world let their decision known that they are against this aggression, it's only a matter of time before Putin yield or stop the aggression.

Russia knows that this is just a temporary sanction and all this punishment will be lifted once they already finished on the invasion since the world especially EU needs Russian product such as oil and gas because its the closest source compared to Middle East. Russia is fully prepared on this and they can withstand this sanction as per plan. You will notice that ar rushing things on demilitarization on Ukraine since Day 1 of the attack.

EU and US can't do anything besides threatening. There increase in defense on neighbours NATO country is useless because Putin will surely stop after Ukraine and plan his next move later on.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: traderethereum on March 03, 2022, 06:36:40 AM
I normally see all Russian athletes showing their support for Ukraine, but there was an exceptional situation in chess. Top chess player Sergey Karjakin has expressed his support for Putin. Chess players are intelligent people, especially at a high level. I wonder what possesses him to write such a thing on twitter. Could play that he used to be a resident of Ukraine, he now seems to have Russian nationality. That could play into it, maybe he left the country there with a lot of fights. Otherwise you are not going to show your support for Putin for any reason.

So true, they have deeper understanding and reasoning that most common people do not understand. In my beliefs if you go against your ruler and plans to humiliate him in front of his constituents and people under his rule, giving him bad image etc, it would only worsen, your countries law and order will fall in some point. Games includes deep thinking are not to be taken lightly , they think before they move, so should we. We should think and comprehend before we make accusations and comments that we don't have sound proof, these guys have wisdoms than most of the social media influencers out there.
We will never be able to embarrass our ruler in front of his constituents, especially if we do not have a lot of support from the people.
Maybe the rulers can suppress a few people, but if those people unite to overthrow the ruling regime, it can happen even though it will happen for a long time.
This war opened a lot of sympathy from many parties and they gave support to Ukraine and hoped the war would stop soon because the small people had suffered too much because of the war.
Hopefully, the war will end peacefully soon and the little people can live well again.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: fiulpro on March 03, 2022, 07:25:41 AM
- They even took the Black Belt Title away from Putin who is Soo. Thinking of imposing the martial law because of so many protests against his own country.

- Russian athletes on TV are writing no to war on the camera after winning the whole game

- Many athletes from Ukraine itself are joining the battle on Frontline along side with their family, which is even a stronger statement than waat Russia is doing

Sports people are united at the same time to help curb this madness that has been happening which is only increasing day by day, they are definitely making a significant amount of impression on the community.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Oshosondy on March 03, 2022, 07:33:56 AM
I normally see all Russian athletes showing their support for Ukraine, but there was an exceptional situation in chess. Top chess player Sergey Karjakin has expressed his support for Putin. Chess players are intelligent people, especially at a high level. I wonder what possesses him to write such a thing on twitter.
What is most important if for Russian government to negatively feel the impacts of sanctions, all Russian sport people will feel it too, if Russia are banned from all sport activities in the world, this will affect many sport people and organizations in Russia which is what FiFA will think and it will be. This is not about athletes that support or oppose what Russia government are doing to Ukraine but about making Russia suffer for the lives devastated in Ukraine.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: dothebeats on March 03, 2022, 07:36:12 AM
Amazing how sports personalities from Russia that are currently IN Russia are expressing their disbelief on what's happening. Voicing out opinions that are against the government's ideals at this time is very hard, considering that the protesters from Day 1 were arrested almost immediately. They are brave enough to tell that something's wrong in the face of a bigger adversary.

It's sad that most sporting events are not including Russia right now on their tourneys and whatnot. The fault of one ruling party affects all that don't even know what's happening.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: mindrust on March 03, 2022, 07:37:50 AM

This.

I don't remember them banning the US from the olympics when they invaded Iraq for nothing. Why did they kill Saddam again? For having nuclear or chemical warheads... And then we learned he didn't have any.

Right now it is free for all. The west is freely seizing all the Russian property they can. I guess law of the jungle is ruling us once again. Maybe it never left us.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: delfastTions on March 03, 2022, 07:41:34 AM
I think this is extremely unfair to athletes and sports teams from Russia. This country has many good athletes, for example, the hero of the last Olympics in Beijing, the skier Bolshunov. I think that such an exclusion of such a large country from all international competitions does great harm to all sports in the world. And many champions, with the exclusion of applicants from Russia, will themselves know that they may not be the best in the world in their sport. Especially if they know their Russian opponent, who was simply not allowed to compete.

I hope this kind of discrimination doesn't last too long.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: TravelMug on March 03, 2022, 07:48:20 AM
I think this is extremely unfair to athletes and sports teams from Russia. This country has many good athletes, for example, the hero of the last Olympics in Beijing, the skier Bolshunov. I think that such an exclusion of such a large country from all international competitions does great harm to all sports in the world. And many champions, with the exclusion of applicants from Russia, will themselves know that they may not be the best in the world in their sport. Especially if they know their Russian opponent, who was simply not allowed to compete.

I hope this kind of discrimination doesn't last too long.

I don't think this kind of discrimination, we have seen this throughout the history of sport, even in the Olympics. US didn't attend the 1980 Olympics to protest against Russian invasion of Afghanistan.

I know it's kinda sad, but it's their leader to blame here. The athletes are part of the whole country they represent, so they can't do anything about it if the Russians are going to be ban in any sports moving forward because of the action of their President.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: swogerino on March 03, 2022, 07:51:36 AM
Now they will feel isolated in the sporting world because of Putin's action but the one that will really hurt the Russian are the financial and banking organizations to ban them, it will have a big effect on their economy and finances of Russia, but it's good that the sports organizations around the world let their decision known that they are against this aggression, it's only a matter of time before Putin yield or stop the aggression.

Russia knows that this is just a temporary sanction and all this punishment will be lifted once they already finished on the invasion since the world especially EU needs Russian product such as oil and gas because its the closest source compared to Middle East. Russia is fully prepared on this and they can withstand this sanction as per plan. You will notice that ar rushing things on demilitarization on Ukraine since Day 1 of the attack.

EU and US can't do anything besides threatening. There increase in defense on neighbours NATO country is useless because Putin will surely stop after Ukraine and plan his next move later on.

It will be very difficult for sanctions to be removed once in place as that shows how weak EU and US are if they do so.They,the Russians started the invasion,killed children,committed genocide against humanity among other war crimes like destroying civilians building which are all not allowed in the law of war,they do not care about any of such laws and if that has been the case,the International Court at Hage will start a thorough case against them for such crimes.I doubt EU and US will remove the sanctions easily,they are in place to make all Russia suffer in the long term but I see the effects are already being felt there by everyone.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: coin-investor on March 03, 2022, 08:35:26 AM
I personally think some of these reactions sports is having towards some russian athletes and other personels from Russia who have really fought hard to be where they are today totally too extreme and without consideration. Some of them are just Russians by Nationality but have been in the west and other regions so much that they can identify with them. Why disregard all contributions they have made when we all know that they may not all be in support of the invasion.

The world is turning to everything that is Russian, they are even pouring Russian vodka into the streets, but according to the French President, Emmanuel Macron insisted that the world was ‘not at war with Russia or its people, but only with Vladimir Putin, they have to do this to show that the world is united in condemning is aggression, if Russian is isolated like North Korea it will lose it's resources and profit because nobody will buy their oil and other products no country will transact with them, but the world will have to see the impact of their action if Putin will back out or not.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Mauser on March 03, 2022, 08:40:09 AM

In an address to the Council, World Athletics President Sebastian Coe said: "Anyone who knows me will understand that imposing sanctions on athletes because of the actions of their government goes against the grain. I have railed against the practice of politicians targeting athletes and sport to make political points when other sectors continue about their business. This is different as governments, business and other international organisations have imposed sanctions and measures against Russia across all sectors. Sport has to step up and join these efforts to end this war and restore peace. We cannot and should not sit this one out."



I am fully against the war in Ukraine, it's a terrible thing and needs to stop. Even though Ukraine is fighting alone against Russia, I find it good that the international community is standing strong behind Ukraine, supporting them through supply and armament shipments, while issuing sanctions against Russia. Trying to make the economically cost as high as possible for Putin is the best strategy for Western countries, and the world seems almost united here. That is why cancelling sponsor deals in sports is a good idea, or not having competitions or tournaments in Russia. It's also good to see that Roman Abramovich decided to sell Chelsea and will donate his profits to help Ukraine.
Hurting the team and companies behind is alright in my opinion, but hurting the individual athlete is not. They spent thousands of hours training to become a professional athlete and there only mistake is to be born in the wrong country. Excluding them from competitions now is not fair I think. It would be better to let them compete under a different team, without the Russian flag.



Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Rockstarguy on March 03, 2022, 08:47:27 AM
Puttin action will really affect so many innocent Russians who are eve in support of puttin. Even if the war ends it will take time for all this damages that puttin have caused  to innocent Russians to be settled. This ban to Russian athletes will not only stop them from participating internationally,  but it will also cause this athletes shortage of income from there respective  sports team.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: aioc on March 03, 2022, 08:54:24 AM

Hurting the team and companies behind is alright in my opinion, but hurting the individual athlete is not. They spent thousands of hours training to become a professional athlete and there only mistake is to be born in the wrong country. Excluding them from competitions now is not fair I think. It would be better to let them compete under a different team, without the Russian flag.



That's a good idea to let them play for another team but they have a contract to fulfill and they are under an obligation under the Russian government to represent them, they will incur the wrath of the Russian government and will be sanctioned, besides this is not permanent if Putin back out the sports organizations may change their decision, this is just a symbolism that they are one in condemning Putin's action.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: asus09 on March 03, 2022, 08:55:56 AM
I normally see all Russian athletes showing their support for Ukraine, but there was an exceptional situation in chess. Top chess player Sergey Karjakin has expressed his support for Putin. Chess players are intelligent people, especially at a high level. I wonder what possesses him to write such a thing on twitter. Could play that he used to be a resident of Ukraine, he now seems to have Russian nationality. That could play into it, maybe he left the country there with a lot of fights. Otherwise you are not going to show your support for Putin for any reason.
Karjakin's policy can't be accepted by everyone, even other athletes can't accept the Karjakin policy that supports Putin's invasion of Ukraine, the country where he was born, most likely he supports Putin because of the policies of the Ukrainian authorities that cover up and not taking action against criminals who burned down a building, which was done by nationalists, maybe for that reason karjakin pro against Putin, but Russian footballer Fiodor Smolov condemned the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and there are many other names such as roman yaremchuk, which used to be a Benfica legend.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: delfastTions on March 03, 2022, 09:03:29 AM
I think this is extremely unfair to athletes and sports teams from Russia. This country has many good athletes, for example, the hero of the last Olympics in Beijing, the skier Bolshunov. I think that such an exclusion of such a large country from all international competitions does great harm to all sports in the world. And many champions, with the exclusion of applicants from Russia, will themselves know that they may not be the best in the world in their sport. Especially if they know their Russian opponent, who was simply not allowed to compete.

I hope this kind of discrimination doesn't last too long.

I don't think this kind of discrimination, we have seen this throughout the history of sport, even in the Olympics. US didn't attend the 1980 Olympics to protest against Russian invasion of Afghanistan.

I know it's kinda sad, but it's their leader to blame here. The athletes are part of the whole country they represent, so they can't do anything about it if the Russians are going to be ban in any sports moving forward because of the action of their President.
I do not really understand how it is possible to stop the training of Russian athletes and their competitions, for example, on the territory of Russia.  They definitely have all the necessary equipment and equipment to train at a professional level even in conditions of complete isolation.  

As for the refusal of the United States from the Olympics in 1980 in Moscow.  Then it was the Soviet Union, and it was the American authorities, by their refusal to participate in the Olympics, that connected politics to sports for the first time.  And I must say that it was their filthy and brazen decision that negatively affected the entire world of sports.  
So far, Russia has not acted under its own flag.  
And these nasty American politicians are to blame for this, as it is now becoming clear to all sane people around the world.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: ropyu1978 on March 03, 2022, 09:15:40 AM
Everyone needs peace, and of course we want to live a normal life, without war, FIFA's policies are good, and all investors have also terminated contracts with Russia, even the Chelsea boss suffered tremendous losses, but fifa must also be fair. Don't just block Russia, but other countries must also be blockaded like that, so that they are deterred, if later Israel attacks Palestine again, Israel must also be sanctioned, as well as America, never be picky. justice must be served..


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: wildan88 on March 03, 2022, 09:38:45 AM
It is natural that the world of sports would react and remove Russia's full scale invasion against Ukraine, I am not an expert about sports but I would like to ask what is the effect of it that they are removed from sports competitions? will they suffer in their economy or just to show that we all don't want to have connections or cut connections to Russia?


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: delfastTions on March 03, 2022, 09:43:55 AM
I just read in the news that Paralympic athletes from Russia were suspended from the Olympics.  It's just amazing, no words!  This is a mockery of the disabled.  Where do the organizers of the Paralympic Games have, where is the IOC in charge of at least a drop of normal human morality and humanity?


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: YOSHIE on March 03, 2022, 10:01:21 AM
Yes, I saw a reaction to the phenomenon in the sports world in Russia, all matches have been cancelled.
• Formula 1 race cancelled.
• The Champions League (UEFA) also suffered the same fate.

Uefa has also criticized what has been done so far to Ukraine, in this action from several private TV stations that I have seen, UEFA has only criticized the Russian government, So, the sports world is still in solidarity with sports athletes, on the other hand UEFA also welcomes Ukrainians and Rusian, especially in the world of sports.

From several sources that I saw the results of the post from @decodx, it can be concluded that the sports world will cancel all matches in Russia, but the football team, Russian GP races can still participate in tournaments held outside Russia.

This reaction, if I think it will have an effect on the Russian Economy from the sports world, the effect on Athletes I don't think so, they are fine, But, Boycott actions, of course you know what happened.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: btc78 on March 03, 2022, 10:34:45 AM
This is just a start of the many reactions and sanctions not only in the world of sports but in all levels instead , We are witnessing news here and there that Russia is being taken out of the system .
but will this really affect Russia with this? they already knew this coming before the action yet they still continue the invasion so that's it They are ready for all of this ..
I just read in the news that Paralympic athletes from Russia were suspended from the Olympics.  It's just amazing, no words!  This is a mockery of the disabled.  Where do the organizers of the Paralympic Games have, where is the IOC in charge of at least a drop of normal human morality and humanity?
Why Paralympic only? why not the whole Russian delegates if this is the case.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: bitbollo on March 03, 2022, 10:47:10 AM
I just read in the news that Paralympic athletes from Russia were suspended from the Olympics.  It's just amazing, no words!  This is a mockery of the disabled.  Where do the organizers of the Paralympic Games have, where is the IOC in charge of at least a drop of normal human morality and humanity?

this news left me dismayed because sport in general but moreover the Paralympic sport should be inclusive ...
I don't know what the Paralympic athletes are to blame... but by now it is clear that these sanctions shoot in the heap and hardly hit or intimidate those who should ...


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: bakasabo on March 03, 2022, 10:48:07 AM
I just read in the news that Paralympic athletes from Russia were suspended from the Olympics.  It's just amazing, no words!  This is a mockery of the disabled.  Where do the organizers of the Paralympic Games have, where is the IOC in charge of at least a drop of normal human morality and humanity?

This is ridiculous and absurd. A lot of people shouted that sports and politics should not be mixed, and now they do by themselves what they were against. I might sound rude, but what should we expect next? Give Ukraine gold medals and first places everywhere because of "support Ukraine"?

I dont understand how this can help to stop the war. Ukraine war: Putin loses World Taekwondo black belt over invasion or Putin also faced discipline from the International Judo Federation (https://www.foxnews.com/sports/ukraine-war-putin-black-belt-invasion). That is fair. Everyone shouts that the war in Ukraine harms innocent people, but now world with sanction harms innocent people also.

The word Russia is turning into Harry Potters The-Word-Which-Must-Not-Be-Pronounced (https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Tom_Riddle).


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Yaunfitda on March 03, 2022, 10:52:52 AM
Just shows that the world doesn't want a war, so almost all sports governing body has united against Russia and it's hard for Russian athlete.

Of course, this will not obviously stop the war, but it shows that war at this day is no longer welcome regardless of what is the reason behind Putin's invasion.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: fzkto on March 03, 2022, 11:20:54 AM
The Russian Paralympic team was suspended by the Olympic Committee today. These are the people I really feel sorry for. I feel sorry for all the athletes from Russia in general. Sport should be out of politics. First they suffered because of the doping scandal, now because of the insane leadership of the government. Although I am sure the athletes could have competed under the flags of other countries, but they did not do it. And now they are faced with treachery.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: gantez on March 03, 2022, 11:31:04 AM
Just shows that the world doesn't want a war, so almost all sports governing body has united against Russia and it's hard for Russian athlete.

Of course, this will not obviously stop the war, but it shows that war at this day is no longer welcome regardless of what is the reason behind Putin's invasion.

This is a show of solidarity for Ukraine and the highly placed in Russia are part of the target group so that Russia can back down on their military invasion. The football and sports of Russia is going to go down drastically and endorsement deals will be affected because almost all countries in Europe is not supporting Putin and globally, about 140 countries have now voted against the invasion. So it is more isolation for Russia.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: madnessteat on March 03, 2022, 11:33:38 AM
Amazing how sports personalities from Russia that are currently IN Russia are expressing their disbelief on what's happening. Voicing out opinions that are against the government's ideals at this time is very hard, considering that the protesters from Day 1 were arrested almost immediately. They are brave enough to tell that something's wrong in the face of a bigger adversary.

It's sad that most sporting events are not including Russia right now on their tourneys and whatnot. The fault of one ruling party affects all that don't even know what's happening.

Any sanctions that are imposed on Russia only cause problems for the general population, which includes athletes. I believe that Russian citizens have long been unable to participate in fair elections and express their positions so this is suppressed by the authorities. The Russian elite has so much money that they can afford to survive on any sanctions, but ordinary people find themselves in a difficult financial situation.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: tyz on March 03, 2022, 11:41:27 AM
Amazing how sports personalities from Russia that are currently IN Russia are expressing their disbelief on what's happening. Voicing out opinions that are against the government's ideals at this time is very hard, considering that the protesters from Day 1 were arrested almost immediately. They are brave enough to tell that something's wrong in the face of a bigger adversary.

It's sad that most sporting events are not including Russia right now on their tourneys and whatnot. The fault of one ruling party affects all that don't even know what's happening.

Any sanctions that are imposed on Russia only cause problems for the general population, which includes athletes. I believe that Russian citizens have long been unable to participate in fair elections and express their positions so this is suppressed by the authorities. The Russian elite has so much money that they can afford to survive on any sanctions, but ordinary people find themselves in a difficult financial situation.

I think the secret hope of the sanctions is also that the brutal economic crisis facing the Russians will lead to some kind of revolution. The only real power that can stop Putin and his regime is his own people. And Russia is so big that the regime cannot capture a revolution if enough people really take to the streets. In addition, in Russia - unlike China - the Internet is still largely free. So far, however, I had the feeling that only a small part, mostly young people in Russia, had rebelled against the regime, and Putin has been able to nip this in the bud.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Boristhecat on March 03, 2022, 11:57:08 AM
It will be very difficult for sanctions to be removed once in place as that shows how weak EU and US are if they do so.They,the Russians started the invasion,killed children,committed genocide against humanity among other war crimes like destroying civilians building which are all not allowed in the law of war,they do not care about any of such laws and if that has been the case,the International Court at Hage will start a thorough case against them for such crimes.I doubt EU and US will remove the sanctions easily,they are in place to make all Russia suffer in the long term but I see the effects are already being felt there by everyone.

I don't know if you know it or not, but we (in Russia) are forbidden to call this war a war. Officially, there is no war, and what is happening is called a special operation. Those local media that called it a war have either been closed or are under persecution. Everyone who comes out to protest is arrested for several days (in fact, the period is unknown). Many people who have the opportunity to hastily leave the country. I agree with your assessment that this is for a long time, this is the Iron Curtain 2.0 and in such conditions the ban for athletes is logical - what kind of sport can there be if the entire civilized world breaks all ties with the aggressor country.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Kakmakr on March 03, 2022, 11:57:57 AM
Do you really think Putin and his government care about Sport? They will just find more ways to by-pass the restrictions that were placed on them. Just look at the Russian Olympic Committee that exploited a loophole that allowed Russian athletes to compete in the Olympics.  ::)

In any way... Putin and his followers have already compared the potential pro's and cons of a war against the Ukrainians and the losses from a few Sport matches are not a huge loss for them.  ::)


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Cnut237 on March 03, 2022, 12:19:15 PM
Do you really think Putin and his government care about Sport? They will just find more ways to by-pass the restrictions that were placed on them. Just look at the Russian Olympic Committee that exploited a loophole that allowed Russian athletes to compete in the Olympics.  ::)

In any way... Putin and his followers have already compared the potential pro's and cons of a war against the Ukrainians and the losses from a few Sport matches are not a huge loss for them.  ::)

Whilst this is true, it's also true that there is an overlap between sanctions and sport, and Putin can be damaged by this. I mean, as one example, Abramovich has been forced to sell Chelsea before the government take it away from him... Putin is an autocrat, his power is based not on popular democratic opinion, but on the small circle of elite billionaires who support him. If you damage the oligarchs, you damage Putin's base.

Of course I'm not saying that for example banning Russian Formula One drivers will cause Putin to abandon the war, just that there's an overlap here and he can be damaged by damaging his support.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: madnessteat on March 03, 2022, 12:20:59 PM
Do you really think Putin and his government care about Sport? They will just find more ways to by-pass the restrictions that were placed on them. Just look at the Russian Olympic Committee that exploited a loophole that allowed Russian athletes to compete in the Olympics.  ::)

In any way... Putin and his followers have already compared the potential pro's and cons of a war against the Ukrainians and the losses from a few Sport matches are not a huge loss for them.  ::)

The worst thing is that ordinary people suffer from all this. If Russian athletes cannot take part in international competitions, it will be a serious blow to their financial well-being. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them quit sport to feed their families.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Erumo on March 03, 2022, 12:26:11 PM
Do you really think Putin and his government care about Sport? They will just find more ways to by-pass the restrictions that were placed on them. Just look at the Russian Olympic Committee that exploited a loophole that allowed Russian athletes to compete in the Olympics.  ::)

In any way... Putin and his followers have already compared the potential pro's and cons of a war against the Ukrainians and the losses from a few Sport matches are not a huge loss for them.  ::)

The worst thing is that ordinary people suffer from all this. If Russian athletes cannot take part in international competitions, it will be a serious blow to their financial well-being. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them quit sport to feed their families.

They can try to change nationality and participate under different flag. Lot of athletes do that if their country has quota limits for their country.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: pinggoki on March 03, 2022, 12:29:55 PM
Glad that someone has compiled all of this stuff because I've been seeing this articles before and I lurk in gambling board and I haven't seen anyone making a thread about it or talking about it. I think that these reactions is justifiable since they're making sure that they're distancing themselves from the conflict which is bad for these organizations images.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Oasisman on March 03, 2022, 12:32:56 PM

This.

I don't remember them banning the US from the olympics when they invaded Iraq for nothing. Why did they kill Saddam again? For having nuclear or chemical warheads... And then we learned he didn't have any.

Right now it is free for all. The west is freely seizing all the Russian property they can. I guess law of the jungle is ruling us once again. Maybe it never left us.

This just only mean that Westerners has a huge influence to the world, and yeah they can actually do whatever they want and the world will follow all because of that influence.

Now, let's go back to the topic.
I have even seen an article about a sports video game removing Russian national teams and players.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10570229/amp/EA-Sports-remove-Russian-national-team-Russian-clubs-FIFA-22.html (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10570229/amp/EA-Sports-remove-Russian-national-team-Russian-clubs-FIFA-22.html)
The sanctions for Russia has gotten worst and worst every single day.
I'm afraid If people from different countries will attack a person residing if they knew he/she's Russian . That would be the worst thing to happen because of this war.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Joca97 on March 03, 2022, 01:06:26 PM
Do you really think Putin and his government care about Sport? They will just find more ways to by-pass the restrictions that were placed on them. Just look at the Russian Olympic Committee that exploited a loophole that allowed Russian athletes to compete in the Olympics.  ::)

In any way... Putin and his followers have already compared the potential pro's and cons of a war against the Ukrainians and the losses from a few Sport matches are not a huge loss for them.  ::)

The worst thing is that ordinary people suffer from all this. If Russian athletes cannot take part in international competitions, it will be a serious blow to their financial well-being. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them quit sport to feed their families.

Politics is politics. I dont know why they allow politics in sport. Im not Russian or something but you should at least allow sports to be played. They have families aswell that live from sports. Uefa and Fifa always said dont get politics involved in sports and thats just what they did. Hopefully the war stops soon so things can go to normal


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: madnessteat on March 03, 2022, 01:07:56 PM
Amazing how sports personalities from Russia that are currently IN Russia are expressing their disbelief on what's happening. Voicing out opinions that are against the government's ideals at this time is very hard, considering that the protesters from Day 1 were arrested almost immediately. They are brave enough to tell that something's wrong in the face of a bigger adversary.

It's sad that most sporting events are not including Russia right now on their tourneys and whatnot. The fault of one ruling party affects all that don't even know what's happening.

Any sanctions that are imposed on Russia only cause problems for the general population, which includes athletes. I believe that Russian citizens have long been unable to participate in fair elections and express their positions so this is suppressed by the authorities. The Russian elite has so much money that they can afford to survive on any sanctions, but ordinary people find themselves in a difficult financial situation.

I think the secret hope of the sanctions is also that the brutal economic crisis facing the Russians will lead to some kind of revolution. The only real power that can stop Putin and his regime is his own people. And Russia is so big that the regime cannot capture a revolution if enough people really take to the streets. In addition, in Russia - unlike China - the Internet is still largely free. So far, however, I had the feeling that only a small part, mostly young people in Russia, had rebelled against the regime, and Putin has been able to nip this in the bud.

Any conflict can be resolved through negotiations, while sanctions are more like the destruction of the economy, which as we know very often turns into a real war.

If you follow your logic, the Russian authorities will be forced to completely cut off gas, oil and metals supplies to the countries that imposed sanctions against Russia.

Politics is politics. I dont know why they allow politics in sport. Im not Russian or something but you should at least allow sports to be played. They have families aswell that live from sports. Uefa and Fifa always said dont get politics involved in sports and thats just what they did. Hopefully the war stops soon so things can go to normal

As it turned out, not only sports are mixed in politics, but also cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: ChiBitCTy on March 03, 2022, 01:38:13 PM
Thanks for sharing all of this information, merit left and deserving for following up with all of this. As much as I don’t want to hurt the average Russian who most likely has nothing to do with this war, I think it’s important to hurt the Russian economy in any way we can. If we piss off the people enough, we could see them support their evil dictator less and less.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: poldanmig on March 03, 2022, 01:52:45 PM
I agree with what the international sports committees did in banning russia who invaded ukraine from competing in world sports, but has the committee been doing fair rules so far?
Because as far as I know it seems that the world sports committee tends to be more aggressive when the ukraine state was invaded, but they were silent when the americas invaded aghanistan and the middle east, so it seems the world sports committee prefers to turn a blind eye to what israel is doing to palestine until recently.
Honestly, I see that there seems to be injustice in the decision, if they really criticize Russia actions,  of course they should take action against Israel, which continues to kill Palestinians...!

STOP THE WAR AND GIVE FOR FREEDOM FOR PALESTINE And UKRAINE


We all don't want war to happen anywhere, but the egos of many world leaders make bloodshed often happen, I think the current sanctions are just political games from people in power and make sports as a means of playing their politics, I think what what has happened in the last few days in ukraine is too much of a priority, while what has happened for years in palestine they have ignored all this time, I personally quite regret the attitude of world leaders who have turned a blind eye to all the suffering that has happened in palestine so far and hope they act fair in making decisions regardless of race and religion.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Hydrogen on March 03, 2022, 02:10:15 PM
Could these bans cause many russians who do not support the invasion of ukraine.

To become more united under Putin. More supportive of the ukraine invasion. In retaliation for these heavy handed measures being directed towards them.

I get that this is supposed to hurt Putin and russia but have people considered it could have the opposite effect.

It is similar to Justin Trudeau declaring martial law in canada and seizing funds donated to truck protestors.

Russians will be angry. Who will they blame for this? Putin or foreigners with their sanctions and cancel culture.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Mauser on March 03, 2022, 02:24:01 PM
That's a good idea to let them play for another team but they have a contract to fulfill and they are under an obligation under the Russian government to represent them, they will incur the wrath of the Russian government and will be sanctioned, besides this is not permanent if Putin back out the sports organizations may change their decision, this is just a symbolism that they are one in condemning Putin's action.

You are right that Putin will very likely not accept athletes to compete for other teams. Atleast he waited for the Olympics to be over with the invasion. I wonder how long will these sanctions be in place. So far the war is going on for a week and maybe they can negotiate a peace treaty quickly, but even then will the world go back to normality quickly? From the short video clips out of Ukraine it looks like there is a lot of destruction happening. And I imagine that the world will not abandon the sanctions until there is some form of compensation. The conflict could carry on for years and the athletes will have to sit out on international competitions. I expect the list of Russian sport teams to get sanctions to grow each week.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: bittraffic on March 03, 2022, 02:33:47 PM
Do you really think Putin and his government care about Sport? They will just find more ways to by-pass the restrictions that were placed on them. Just look at the Russian Olympic Committee that exploited a loophole that allowed Russian athletes to compete in the Olympics.  ::)

In any way... Putin and his followers have already compared the potential pro's and cons of a war against the Ukrainians and the losses from a few Sport matches are not a huge loss for them.  ::)

Of course they care sports. He attended the Beijing Olympics. In every olympics, Russia wins alot of gold medals proving they motivate their citizen to engage in sports. This is a competitive race same as Chinese. But right now its now their priority because of the war.

In MMA, they almost dominate already. Most of my bets atually for Khabib and his proteges. But now all their fighters are also affected. The wolrd gone mad that even them are sanctioned.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Peanutswar on March 03, 2022, 04:18:34 PM
I guess its too hard with the punishment that the athletes are now prohibited to play their particular sports, but of course, it's their president so they can't do anything with that also they are both recovering with their economy got too many expenses to their war, as possible they make the peace talk immediately than risking the lives of the people.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: delfastTions on March 03, 2022, 04:47:37 PM

To become more united under Putin. More supportive of the ukraine invasion. In retaliation for these heavy handed measures being directed towards them.

I get that this is supposed to hurt Putin and russia but have people considered it could have the opposite effect.


Definitely it is.
The more and more severe the sanctions against the Russians, the more united they will be around their leader. So it looks like the stupid politicians from Europe and the USA will just have the opposite effect. And the mass consciousness of Russians will blame the USA and their European hangers-on. The tougher the sanctions, the tougher the response to them will be. And Europe will be able to feel it with its big euro inflation.

It's just ridiculous when Switzerland prohibits the passage of Russian civil aircraft in its airspace, and Russia in response closes its airspace to Swiss aircraft.   :)
What do you think - is there a difference when the Swiss will have to fly in a huge loop over the ocean to China, Japan and Korea? 
And accordingly pay for aviation fuel. :)


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: xSkylarx on March 03, 2022, 06:22:01 PM
I guess its too hard with the punishment that the athletes are now prohibited to play their particular sports, but of course, it's their president so they can't do anything with that also they are both recovering with their economy got too many expenses to their war, as possible they make the peace talk immediately than risking the lives of the people.

Agreed, but this is similar to the asian hatred that has occurred in other countries as a result of COVID, in which they have come to despise all Asians since it began in China. I could honestly say that it is sad that athletes are being barred from participating in games because of the war, but I believe that this is the best decision for their safety because we don't know what people will do on them given that many people are now angry at the Russian president because of the war between Ukraine and the second is that I believe the Russian government will not allow it because they are in an economic crisis.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: uneng on March 03, 2022, 06:39:05 PM
The world is trying to raise the pressure over Russia in any possible ways they can. Besides being an humiliation for Russia to be removed from the sports' scene, it has also an internal strong impact as athletes and sports fans may turn themselves against Putin ffor creating this totally unnecessary mess with serious consequences especially for the average russian citizens and soldiers, who will suffer due to the economical depression and war casualties. Now they can't even participate international competitions, what is really frustrating and leads them to be more isolated than ever in the global scene.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Fortify on March 03, 2022, 06:48:49 PM
In the wake of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, more and more sports have followed the IOC's call to ban Russian athletes from competing. I will try to compile all of those links here for your information.

There seems to be a massive and growing backlash against Russia right now. It's hard to keep track of all the sports sanction as there is a stream of new stuff coming out constantly. All sorts of fighting competitions have dumped Russia and it's even going so far as FIFA dropping them from games. It's going a step beyond allowing Russian players to play under a neutral flag and all Russian sports people are being restricted completely. It seems pretty unprecedented but then Russia has gone full on crazy mode with their invasion.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: South Park on March 03, 2022, 08:36:23 PM
I normally see all Russian athletes showing their support for Ukraine, but there was an exceptional situation in chess. Top chess player Sergey Karjakin has expressed his support for Putin. Chess players are intelligent people, especially at a high level. I wonder what possesses him to write such a thing on twitter. Could play that he used to be a resident of Ukraine, he now seems to have Russian nationality. That could play into it, maybe he left the country there with a lot of fights. Otherwise you are not going to show your support for Putin for any reason.
When it comes to personal perspective and views then dont expect that everyone would really be doing on to the same path.We do have our own will and decide for ourselves on which
or whose would be gonna be supported whether being a Russian turns out to be supportive with Ukraine or would totally be that loyal on the place where they do live in.
I dont see for Intelligence to have some major role on choosing on which one you should really support off.
That is just the way it is, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and even if we disagree with them they have the right to express their opinion just as much as we do, after all the western media is condemning the invasion of Russia but I doubt the same is happening at China and other countries, so while the criticism against Russian actions may seem unanimous this is just an illusion since there are probably a lot of people supporting the actions of Putin as well.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Smartvirus on March 03, 2022, 09:22:27 PM
You know, Ukraine and Ukrainians might be the victims here in this war but looking at it critically, you could also tell that, Russians are paying a great price for the decisions of Putin. Fortunately, it's for the good of the Republic of Russia for which all Russians share a part but the price they now pay seems so much. The word can't even look at the face of a Russian right now, not to tall of doing business with them or even, sharing a table, bus or meal with a Russian. The funny thing is, if it were left in the hands of the Russian citizens, this war could have been ended, following the protest they've carried out across there country but, its Putin's war .


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: DoublerHunter on March 03, 2022, 10:21:37 PM
You know, Ukraine and Ukrainians might be the victims here in this war but looking at it critically, you could also tell that, Russians are paying a great price for the decisions of Putin. Fortunately, it's for the good of the Republic of Russia for which all Russians share a part but the price they now pay seems so much. The word can't even look at the face of a Russian right now, not to tall of doing business with them or even, sharing a table, bus or meal with a Russian. The funny thing is, if it were left in the hands of the Russian citizens, this war could have been ended, following the protest they've carried out across there country but, its Putin's war .
^ Ukrainian probably a victim but I think also the Rusian citizen is a victim too and you are right, this is a Putin's fight which is only his goal to have a more powerful country and invading other country makes them strong. A Russian citizen has been also suffered not only Ukrainian, look at those people who have a business for example in the gambling industry, I think not all investors in one company that based in Russia are all Russian, so they are affected by this Russian invasion, and sports now has been reacted too which is I think should not. It will probably have a postponed but wont stop.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Wexnident on March 03, 2022, 10:43:23 PM
I just personally think it's a pity to some athletes since there are some that are there for their passion for the sport, though a part of me do agree with the sanction since they do represent their country, Russia (whether they like it or not at this point in time). I guess it's just rather unfortunate since they never really chose what country they were born in, nor did they actually know that their president will, well, do something like this when they started representing their country.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: dunfida on March 03, 2022, 10:49:07 PM
Even we don't like the idea of banning Russian players, it's good that there's pressure for Vladimir Putin. Not all Russians want the war and something should hit Putin's head into calmness state. But I don't how those things will be solved as there are now more civilians killed in Ukraine because of a Russian invasion. It's not as easy as Putin will stop the invasion. How about those innocent people being killed?

Putin needs to be stopped. Russia loves peace, I'm sure about that.
Things had been done already and there's no turning back now as the war had already started.We dont know on whats up on the mind of Putin on why he really that pursue on invading UKraine.

Whether we do like it or not there's nothing we can do on stopping it and all of those effects around which causes for russian industries to be heavily affected by this war.
Some would be saying it is not right but lets just deal on what decisions had been made yet options is not really that something possible.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: harizen on March 03, 2022, 10:50:38 PM
I think this is extremely unfair to athletes and sports teams from Russia. This country has many good athletes, for example, the hero of the last Olympics in Beijing, the skier Bolshunov. I think that such an exclusion of such a large country from all international competitions does great harm to all sports in the world. And many champions, with the exclusion of applicants from Russia, will themselves know that they may not be the best in the world in their sport. Especially if they know their Russian opponent, who was simply not allowed to compete.

I hope this kind of discrimination doesn't last too long.

I have to disagree with the discrimination part. It's not what happening.

Let's take that as a form of condemning Russian actions without the act of military actions. Any ways to pressure Russia, or should I say, Putin itself, is necessary as even his soldiers don't want to participate to the invasion, they are bound to follow Putin regardless of their stand.

As also mentioned on my early post here, it's also to protect Russian athletes from a possible violence from the fans (maybe while in game) that don't truly understand the situation because of their "hate" towards Putin action. It's good to isolate those athletes for their safety.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: AmoreJaz on March 03, 2022, 10:55:32 PM
Even we don't like the idea of banning Russian players, it's good that there's pressure for Vladimir Putin. Not all Russians want the war and something should hit Putin's head into calmness state. But I don't how those things will be solved as there are now more civilians killed in Ukraine because of a Russian invasion. It's not as easy as Putin will stop the invasion. How about those innocent people being killed?

Putin needs to be stopped. Russia loves peace, I'm sure about that.
Things had been done already and there's no turning back now as the war had already started.We dont know on whats up on the mind of Putin on why he really that pursue on invading UKraine.

Whether we do like it or not there's nothing we can do on stopping it and all of those effects around which causes for russian industries to be heavily affected by this war.
Some would be saying it is not right but lets just deal on what decisions had been made yet options is not really that something possible.

putin will not be stopping anytime soon. and their sports is just one of the casualties of this war. i believe some of these athletes who has the chance to get out of this country will move to another country for the time being. a lot of these Russian people don't like what their leader is up but they can't stop him now.
we don't know yet where this war will end up with. i believe putin is ready to be isolated by the world, maybe except for china.  ::)


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: decodx on March 03, 2022, 10:57:38 PM
There are so many bullshit comments in this thread that I regret not starting a self-moderated topic. I would like to warn everyone that any low value and off-topic comments will be reported to the forum moderators as spam from now on.

Anyway, back to the topic ...

The International World Games Association Bans Russian and Belarusian Athletes and Officials from The World Games 2022 Competition. (https://www.theworldgames.org/news/The-World-Games-2022-32/IWGA-Bans-Russian-and-Belarusian-Athletes-and-Officials-from-The-World-Games-2022-Competition-2228)

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The International World Games Association (IWGA) and the Executive Board of The World Games 2022 Birmingham Organizing Committee have both met and agreed, in the light of current circumstances, to ban Russian and Belarusian athletes and officials from participating in The World Games 2022 in Birmingham from 7-17 July.
source (https://www.theworldgames.org/news/The-World-Games-2022-32/IWGA-Bans-Russian-and-Belarusian-Athletes-and-Officials-from-The-World-Games-2022-Competition-2228)

International Automobile Federation (FIA) will allow Russian and Belarusian drivers to race on under neutral flag (https://www.fia.com/news/fia-announces-world-motor-sport-council-decisions-relation-situation-ukraine), but no Russian/Belarusian national teams, no Russian/Belarusian national symbols and no international/zone competition to take place in Russia and Belarus, until further notice.

The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem added: "I want to thank the Council members for their prompt action in deciding these measures in the interests of sport and peace. We stand in solidarity with Leonid Kostyuchenko, the President of the Federation Automobile d’Ukraine (FAU) and the wider FIA family in the country. The measures taken today recognise the authority of the FAU in Ukraine and are also aligned with the recommendations recently made by the International Olympic Committee. We are in active discussions with our members as we continue to extend our compassion and support in their time of need. We sincerely hope for a peaceful resolution to their intolerable hardship."

Billionaire Alisher Usmanov has stepped down as President of the International Fencing Federation (FIE) (https://fie.org/articles/1157), after the European Union (EU) imposed economic sanctions on him.

Shortly afterwards, FIE Executive Committee decided not to invite or allow the participation of Russian and Belarusian athletes and officials in FIE compettions, until further notice. (https://fie.org/articles/1158)

According to Bloomberg's report (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-01/adidas-halts-partnership-with-russian-football-union-on-ukraine), Adidas, the German sports company, which been partnered with the Russian football program for years, is joining FIFA and UEFA in censuring Russia and that it's immediately suspending its partnership with the Russian Football Union following that country's invasion of Ukraine.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: boyptc on March 03, 2022, 11:24:30 PM
According to Bloomberg's report (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-01/adidas-halts-partnership-with-russian-football-union-on-ukraine), Adidas, the German sports company, which been partnered with the Russian football program for years, is joining FIFA and UEFA in censuring Russia and that it's immediately suspending its partnership with the Russian Football Union following that country's invasion of Ukraine.
That's unexpected but probably have foreseen that coming.

After all of the sports orgs banning Russians and Belarusians onto their events or allowing but through a neutral flag and has to deny the Russian/Belarusian flag.

Now it has come to the point that big brands, deals and sponsorships are coming after them. Apart from the economy sanctions that has been applied on them.

These cutting off of sponsorships are really going to take a huge cut and slash in addition to the sanction to Russia's economy.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Peanutswar on March 04, 2022, 12:03:44 AM
Even we don't like the idea of banning Russian players, it's good that there's pressure for Vladimir Putin. Not all Russians want the war and something should hit Putin's head into calmness state. But I don't how those things will be solved as there are now more civilians killed in Ukraine because of a Russian invasion. It's not as easy as Putin will stop the invasion. How about those innocent people being killed?

Putin needs to be stopped. Russia loves peace, I'm sure about that.
Things had been done already and there's no turning back now as the war had already started.We dont know on whats up on the mind of Putin on why he really that pursue on invading UKraine.

Whether we do like it or not there's nothing we can do on stopping it and all of those effects around which causes for russian industries to be heavily affected by this war.
Some would be saying it is not right but lets just deal on what decisions had been made yet options is not really that something possible.

putin will not be stopping anytime soon. and their sports is just one of the casualties of this war. i believe some of these athletes who has the chance to get out of this country will move to another country for the time being. a lot of these Russian people don't like what their leader is up but they can't stop him now.
we don't know yet where this war will end up with. i believe putin is ready to be isolated by the world, maybe except for china.  ::)

Yet they are now talking about peace talk happening and its lot of burden to the athletes that they can't play because they are prohibited by some organization to play because of the decision of their president hoping that  they will come up with the good conversation so they keep peace again and back to normal its a lot of life getting affected on this currently war.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: judeafante on March 04, 2022, 01:13:28 AM
According to Bloomberg's report (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-01/adidas-halts-partnership-with-russian-football-union-on-ukraine), Adidas, the German sports company, which been partnered with the Russian football program for years, is joining FIFA and UEFA in censuring Russia and that it's immediately suspending its partnership with the Russian Football Union following that country's invasion of Ukraine.
That's unexpected but probably have foreseen that coming.

After all of the sports orgs banning Russians and Belarusians onto their events or allowing but through a neutral flag and has to deny the Russian/Belarusian flag.

Now it has come to the point that big brands, deals and sponsorships are coming after them. Apart from the economy sanctions that has been applied on them.

These cutting off of sponsorships are really going to take a huge cut and slash in addition to the sanction to Russia's economy.

Everything is targetting Russia's economy and the flow of money once it's cut off there will be fewer resources, I have this feeling that this is going to be a long war, Putin thought that he can capture Ukraine and easily established a puppet government and go on the next target, but the Ukrainian resistant will put everything on hold, those countries on Putin's radar should thank Ukraine for their gallant stand.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Uang_kartal on March 04, 2022, 01:35:08 AM

Everything is targetting Russia's economy and the flow of money once it's cut off there will be fewer resources, I have this feeling that this is going to be a long war, Putin thought that he can capture Ukraine and easily established a puppet government and go on the next target, but the Ukrainian resistant will put everything on hold, those countries on Putin's radar should thank Ukraine for their gallant stand.

it should be if the main russian economic cycle with this war is very bad, I have indeed heard this kind of news. Putin wants to seize this area, is it ready / planned before this happens bro? there is something interesting when the leadership this year, I am not as complete he knows fundamentally about war and the economic targets that you want to change, maybe you can include a link to the news source bro? for me to learn more, I am interested in being interested in what is causing the conflict that is happening in the current period, I hope it will return to normal and it won't take long in any case my hope is in terms of foam sports running again especially from the news that Op conveys above this makes us wonder and feel confused, and this also messes it up including the removal of sponsors in the football club costume.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: _act_ on March 04, 2022, 03:36:59 AM
Everything is targetting Russia's economy and the flow of money once it's cut off there will be fewer resources, I have this feeling that this is going to be a long war, Putin thought that he can capture Ukraine and easily established a puppet government and go on the next target, but the Ukrainian resistant will put everything on hold, those countries on Putin's radar should thank Ukraine for their gallant stand.
It is going to be a long war but I am not happy that Russia are taking over some cities, one of the largest city in Ukraine was even taken over by Russia yesterday. If the war is long, this will not benefit Russia, the sanction of today will have a very great negative effect on Russia later, the EU and US are doing everything possible to make sure they stop Russia to be able to fund the war which they are right. This does also goes to FIFA and UEFA, Russia has been suspended to take part in competitions which is not bad at all. The longer the war the worst the sanctioning even from sport organizations.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: boyptc on March 04, 2022, 03:41:58 AM
According to Bloomberg's report (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-01/adidas-halts-partnership-with-russian-football-union-on-ukraine), Adidas, the German sports company, which been partnered with the Russian football program for years, is joining FIFA and UEFA in censuring Russia and that it's immediately suspending its partnership with the Russian Football Union following that country's invasion of Ukraine.
That's unexpected but probably have foreseen that coming.

After all of the sports orgs banning Russians and Belarusians onto their events or allowing but through a neutral flag and has to deny the Russian/Belarusian flag.

Now it has come to the point that big brands, deals and sponsorships are coming after them. Apart from the economy sanctions that has been applied on them.

These cutting off of sponsorships are really going to take a huge cut and slash in addition to the sanction to Russia's economy.

Everything is targetting Russia's economy and the flow of money once it's cut off there will be fewer resources, I have this feeling that this is going to be a long war, Putin thought that he can capture Ukraine and easily established a puppet government and go on the next target, but the Ukrainian resistant will put everything on hold, those countries on Putin's radar should thank Ukraine for their gallant stand.
Yes.

That's what others don't understand and they want a full stop for Russia even without those sanctions. But that's the reality, almost every source of their economy is being stripped off for being part of world's economy.

It's really going to slow them down and every industry that they've been banned and cancelled, it will affect their economy which will make them think if it's still worth it to go for this war. But I guess, nothing will stop what has Putin started unless they totally lost it.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on March 04, 2022, 05:30:24 AM
I don’t think discriminating people based on nationality is a good idea. This kind of attitude promotes xenophobia. I am glad the CEO of Kraken took a stand and said they wouldn’t ban Russian users from their platform and also said Americans would have to be banned if they applied the same standard.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: traderethereum on March 04, 2022, 05:43:18 AM
I don’t think discriminating people based on nationality is a good idea. This kind of attitude promotes xenophobia. I am glad the CEO of Kraken took a stand and said they wouldn’t ban Russian users from their platform and also said Americans would have to be banned if they applied the same standard.
Users from Russia or Ukraine are ordinary users who have nothing to do with war, so I agree that the CEO of Kraken or other exchanges will not ban users from Russia or other countries.
As long as they don't use their account for any illegal thing, it's okay and they can continue to use their account properly without any problems.
We hope there will be more support to stop the war before more casualties fall.
With this support, Putin can see the consequences if he chooses to continue the war.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Jasad on March 04, 2022, 06:12:55 AM
I don’t think discriminating people based on nationality is a good idea. This kind of attitude promotes xenophobia. I am glad the CEO of Kraken took a stand and said they wouldn’t ban Russian users from their platform and also said Americans would have to be banned if they applied the same standard.
Users from Russia or Ukraine are ordinary users who have nothing to do with war, so I agree that the CEO of Kraken or other exchanges will not ban users from Russia or other countries.
As long as they don't use their account for any illegal thing, it's okay and they can continue to use their account properly without any problems.
We hope there will be more support to stop the war before more casualties fall.
With this support, Putin can see the consequences if he chooses to continue the war.
Not any reason why have to banned Russia or Ukraine user who as active investor on exchange market platform although have invasion made by Putin as Russian president, I see need  to know who fault and what community have ideas with begin this war invasion without have to make all Russia citizen fault with this war. I think not any way why have to banned all Russia use on cryptocurrency and behind of other side Ukraine president make joke with accepted donation using bitcoin, looks he not shy when ask to platform exchange to banned Russia users because he still asking donation around the world.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: virasisog on March 04, 2022, 06:28:18 AM
I normally see all Russian athletes showing their support for Ukraine, but there was an exceptional situation in chess. Top chess player Sergey Karjakin has expressed his support for Putin. Chess players are intelligent people, especially at a high level. I wonder what possesses him to write such a thing on twitter. Could play that he used to be a resident of Ukraine, he now seems to have Russian nationality. That could play into it, maybe he left the country there with a lot of fights. Otherwise you are not going to show your support for Putin for any reason.
When it comes to personal perspective and views then dont expect that everyone would really be doing on to the same path.We do have our own will and decide for ourselves on which
or whose would be gonna be supported whether being a Russian turns out to be supportive with Ukraine or would totally be that loyal on the place where they do live in.
I dont see for Intelligence to have some major role on choosing on which one you should really support off.

This is certainly true. We could all have the free will to support what we want because we have different perspectives and principles. A person from Russia could support Ukraine or vice versa but that doesn't make them less of a person especially if they don't support their own country. I just don't see the point of discriminating against people because of their nationality when in fact, this war isn't cause by ordinally people who are actually suffering now.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: delfastTions on March 04, 2022, 07:07:37 AM
I'll probably return to the topic about which OP is talking about.  

I note that I heard in the sports news that the organizers of almost all international competitions now began to exclude not only athletes from Russia from competitions, but for some reason this also spread to Belarusian athletes and sports teams.  As far as I know, Belarus is not participating in this military operation, its soldiers are not fighting.  
Why such discrimination?  
With the same success, you can safely exclude athletes from everywhere, for example, from Iran, Mali, Somalia, North Korea.....
And what kind of international competition will it be? .... Some insanity and idiocy.  :(


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: batang_bitcoin on March 04, 2022, 09:06:28 AM
I'll probably return to the topic about which OP is talking about.  

I note that I heard in the sports news that the organizers of almost all international competitions now began to exclude not only athletes from Russia from competitions, but for some reason this also spread to Belarusian athletes and sports teams.  As far as I know, Belarus is not participating in this military operation, its soldiers are not fighting.  
Why such discrimination?  
With the same success, you can safely exclude athletes from everywhere, for example, from Iran, Mali, Somalia, North Korea.....
And what kind of international competition will it be? .... Some insanity and idiocy.  :(
I also saw in the news that they're not joining the war. But I guess this ban and exclusion of Belarus from these sports committees and organizations is due to the claim of Ukraine that Belarus is joining the war. Apart from that, I don't see any reason for it and I'm still researching most news about it and one other is probably because Russia and Belarus are allies.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Cnut237 on March 04, 2022, 09:10:01 AM
I note that I heard in the sports news that the organizers of almost all international competitions now began to exclude not only athletes from Russia from competitions, but for some reason this also spread to Belarusian athletes and sports teams.  As far as I know, Belarus is not participating in this military operation, its soldiers are not fighting.  
Why such discrimination?  

Belarus is participating; they are actively supporting Russia. They are hosting thousands of Russian troops, their airports are used as a base by Russian fighter planes, their president has recently changed the law to enable Belarus to host Russian nuclear missiles. Lukashenko is a Putin puppet.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: perla on March 04, 2022, 09:25:34 AM
It is nice to see that the world unites to suppress Vladimir Putin and end his invasion to Ukraine. It seems that not only business but also sports which I think is business too but wouldn't that be enough to stop Putin in his invasion to Ukraine? I don't have any idea what will happened to Russia after this war ended? would they be able to get back to sports competitions or they will need to regain back the trust of the other countries before they can reenter the competitions again?


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Sarah Azhari on March 04, 2022, 12:02:45 PM
It is nice to see that the world unites to suppress Vladimir Putin and end his invasion to Ukraine. It seems that not only business but also sports which I think is business too but wouldn't that be enough to stop Putin in his invasion to Ukraine? I don't have any idea what will happened to Russia after this war ended? would they be able to get back to sports competitions or they will need to regain back the trust of the other countries before they can reenter the competitions again?
if you see a doping case that Russia has supported, it's possible they using ROC (Russian Olympic Committee) again. ATP allows Russian athlete to play without names and the Russian flag. you can see the name Daniil Medvedev as no.1 without Russian attribute.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: AicecreaME on March 04, 2022, 12:17:45 PM
I normally see all Russian athletes showing their support for Ukraine, but there was an exceptional situation in chess. Top chess player Sergey Karjakin has expressed his support for Putin. Chess players are intelligent people, especially at a high level. I wonder what possesses him to write such a thing on twitter. Could play that he used to be a resident of Ukraine, he now seems to have Russian nationality. That could play into it, maybe he left the country there with a lot of fights. Otherwise you are not going to show your support for Putin for any reason.

Being a professional chess player doesn't mean you're also good at political's perspective, and vice versa. Sports and Government issues will never be related to each other, that's why whatever his opinion is regarding about the recent conflict between Russia and Ukraine is not connected to his sports.

It's nice to know that sports community did such thing. Sports should be sports only, personal opinion would never have to be consider on it.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Boristhecat on March 04, 2022, 12:24:20 PM
Even we don't like the idea of banning Russian players, it's good that there's pressure for Vladimir Putin. Not all Russians want the war and something should hit Putin's head into calmness state. But I don't how those things will be solved as there are now more civilians killed in Ukraine because of a Russian invasion. It's not as easy as Putin will stop the invasion. How about those innocent people being killed?

Putin needs to be stopped. Russia loves peace, I'm sure about that.

I think that after the end of the war, in which Russia will lose (you cannot win a war against the whole world), it will pay huge reparations to Ukraine. The dead people cannot be returned, it is true, but the destruction will be paid for by Russia itself. I'm not saying that this will happen right tomorrow, perhaps the sanctions will destroy Russia in a few years, but I am sure that this will happen - all these crimes that the whole world has seen cannot be hidden or canceled.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Saisher on March 04, 2022, 01:15:00 PM
It is nice to see that the world unites to suppress Vladimir Putin and end his invasion to Ukraine. It seems that not only business but also sports which I think is business too but wouldn't that be enough to stop Putin in his invasion to Ukraine? I don't have any idea what will happened to Russia after this war ended? would they be able to get back to sports competitions or they will need to regain back the trust of the other countries before they can reenter the competitions again?

Putin can drag this war for a long time he is an arrogant dictator he will not accept defeat and in fact, he put the nuclear team on high alert, this is too risky we are fighting a mad man who can lead us to nuclear war, that is why countries do not want to directly engage against Russian they are only sending ammunitions and supplies so Ukrainian can keep up fighting Russia.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: TopTort777 on March 04, 2022, 01:15:33 PM
I think that after the end of the war, in which Russia will lose (you cannot win a war against the whole world), it will pay huge reparations to Ukraine.

I sounds sad and wildly, but no one pays reparations nowadays. Reparations were not paid not after armed conflict in Syria, Afganistan, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Vietnam and etc. The only country that paid any reparations was Finland after WW2. Side that won get military equipment and enginery (basically scrap metal) and maybe some benefits from future agreements. That is it. No one pays for destroyed infrastructure and etc.

Sad to see that one of the best boxer Vasily Lomachenko had to join army. This might end as his last "fight". War spares no one.
https://tn.com.ar/resizer/IXs4B0imtyMv2SnSAQ6wzJwj62U=/767x0/smart/filters:quality(60)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/artear/JMMLSQO6YVEANBHGGDBRN4FTRA.JPG

Same goes to Olexander Usyk.

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article26346826.ece/ALTERNATES/n310p/0_FMrUqw9WQAAuncM.jpg

If they got shot, it will be a huge loss for sport.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: molsewid on March 04, 2022, 01:59:29 PM

Putin can drag this war for a long time he is an arrogant dictator he will not accept defeat and in fact, he put the nuclear team on high alert, this is too risky we are fighting a mad man who can lead us to nuclear war, that is why countries do not want to directly engage against Russian they are only sending ammunitions and supplies so Ukrainian can keep up fighting Russia.

With this being said I can say that Putin is a kind of a leader that doesn't need to be pissed off because what he said will be put into action. Actually, I am also one of those people being worried and afraid if this war will be widen and will take longer, we've not been yet recovered from the economic loses we've been through because of pandemic then here it is again, it is already stressful. I do really hope and pray that this war may end the soonest and may not widen to affect many civilians.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: _act_ on March 04, 2022, 02:05:00 PM
I think the sanctions should have been lessen now because if it continues that might trigger as well to Putin for another one. I don't know if these sanctions will last but hoping diplomacy wins on it, they should have done it in sports over bullets. It's just a personal interest after all.
There is nothing bad for the whole world of sport organizations to completely ban or ban Russia indefinitely, it should also go beyond that, Russia should be completely disconnected from trading with Europeans and American continents and if possible Africa. Russia depended on nations and later using power to threaten them. I hope Russian is banned from world cup, continental cups, UEFA leagues. This is a best decision.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: KTChampions on March 04, 2022, 02:59:40 PM
Before the war in Ukraine, the Belarus government and Russia have been in good terms and that is why it is easy for this growing support against Ukraine. Yesterday ,the Belarus president visited Putin and was seen taking pictures together. This is why Zelensky initially rejected the idea of a peace talk in Belarus.

At the moment (for a couple of years already), Belarus is formally a state, but in fact it is another region of Russia that it has occupied after the 2020 protests in Belarus. Belarus exists on loans from Russia, Russian troops are stationed there (and attacking Ukraine from the territory of Belarus), and even most of the employees of the Belarusian propaganda media are Russians. This is bad news for Belarus, but it will share the responsibility with Russia for these war crimes.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: mm2543363580 on March 04, 2022, 03:28:56 PM
Even we don't like the idea of banning Russian players, it's good that there's pressure for Vladimir Putin. Not all Russians want the war and something should hit Putin's head into calmness state. But I don't how those things will be solved as there are now more civilians killed in Ukraine because of a Russian invasion. It's not as easy as Putin will stop the invasion. How about those innocent people being killed?

Putin needs to be stopped. Russia loves peace, I'm sure about that.

I think that after the end of the war, in which Russia will lose (you cannot win a war against the whole world), it will pay huge reparations to Ukraine. The dead people cannot be returned, it is true, but the destruction will be paid for by Russia itself. I'm not saying that this will happen right tomorrow, perhaps the sanctions will destroy Russia in a few years, but I am sure that this will happen - all these crimes that the whole world has seen cannot be hidden or canceled.

Very right -but I disagree that Putin loves Peace, these super power will do anything to destroy peace. Resulting - kids will miss their dads and widows will moarn for their husbands for whole lives. Sports has always been used as a medium to promote peace. And
Along side the mentioned threads on the main page- I have heard in the local news channel that Formula1 has also canceled their contract with Russia's Grand Prix promoter.
May peace prevail!


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: bittraffic on March 04, 2022, 03:39:10 PM
It becomes funny already right when I heard about this because its close to sanctioning the pasionate athletes who are not involve in the government decision. Whats saidnl above that they are also excluding Belarus, India or Iran is really far stretched.

Nato is doing exactly what is done to them as if these NATO members weren't sanctioned themselves. Suprisingly, no Chinese atheletes excluded yet but they were just beaten on streets. These boycott an exclusions.comes from countries that have not experienced war for more than centuries.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: decodx on March 04, 2022, 04:30:50 PM
Sad to see that one of the best boxer Vasily Lomachenko had to join army. This might end as his last "fight". War spares no one.

Same goes to Olexander Usyk.
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Along with other well-known boxers, like Lomachenko and Usyk, former heavyweight world champions, the Klitschko brothers, have already been carrying weapons for days.

Vitali, the former WBC and WBO champion and current mayor of Kyiv, said he had no option but to join the fight against Russia. His brother, Wladimir, a former WBA, WBO and IBF champion, enlisted in Ukraine's reserve army last month, even before the war began.

As reported by The Times (https://www.thetimes.co.uk//article/volodymyr-zelensky-russian-mercenaries-ordered-to-kill-ukraine-president-cvcksh79d), both boxing legends in Ukraine are on a Putin's "kill list" with more than 400 Russian mercenaries operating in Kyiv on orders from the Kremlin to assassinate President Zelensky and his inner circle.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: og kush420 on March 04, 2022, 05:00:25 PM
It is nice to see that the world unites to suppress Vladimir Putin and end his invasion to Ukraine. It seems that not only business but also sports which I think is business too but wouldn't that be enough to stop Putin in his invasion to Ukraine? I don't have any idea what will happened to Russia after this war ended? would they be able to get back to sports competitions or they will need to regain back the trust of the other countries before they can reenter the competitions again?

Putin can drag this war for a long time he is an arrogant dictator he will not accept defeat and in fact, he put the nuclear team on high alert, this is too risky we are fighting a mad man who can lead us to nuclear war, that is why countries do not want to directly engage against Russian they are only sending ammunitions and supplies so Ukrainian can keep up fighting Russia.
The super powers can do anything to anyone in particular if they are weak. We have seen this from our childhood. This planet has no place for the weak. Only the fit survive. Yesterday it was Iraq, Serya, Afghanistan today its Ukraine tomorrow it can be my country or your country. No-one knows how many such dreadful deaths we will see in the days to come. There is no end to it. We will all be making noise and one day we all will rest in peace.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Theones on March 04, 2022, 05:09:54 PM
^ I am not on their side but I feel pity for them because they are innocent people and I don't know if they are even a pro-Putin which they are.
It seems there is discrimination against all Russian players and athletes because their country invaded Ukraine and now they are suffering too from what their country did. There is too many sports event that has been canceled or postponed, the gambling industry was been affected too.
Nevertheless, this is not the right.
I agree with you, the Russian sportsmen have not done anything wrong and yet they see reaction of everyone around. They should be allowed to play sports and people can send the message of peace through them. Russian would not admit that they have done anything wrong. They would have their own justifications for it. The world needs to find solution for this kind of invasions in coming days. There are threats of nuclear war as well. May we never see another Heroshima and Nagasaki again.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: goldkingcoiner on March 04, 2022, 05:16:50 PM
I think that the world of sports has always been one of the firsts if not the very first to show solidarity in any situation and during any event. Its really a big part of what sports is about. Its about getting people together, showing humanity and discouraging inhumanity.

This is what the olympics are always about. Nobody cares about the medals, its about friendly competition and a strengthening of the bonds between countries. But this can go both ways. Currently the Russian people will feel the pang of being left out of something that everyone else is a part of. Something good. Something that would hurt to be left out of.

Economic sanctions do not have this human element.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: qwertyup23 on March 04, 2022, 05:28:41 PM
I normally see all Russian athletes showing their support for Ukraine, but there was an exceptional situation in chess. Top chess player Sergey Karjakin has expressed his support for Putin. Chess players are intelligent people, especially at a high level. I wonder what possesses him to write such a thing on twitter. Could play that he used to be a resident of Ukraine, he now seems to have Russian nationality. That could play into it, maybe he left the country there with a lot of fights. Otherwise you are not going to show your support for Putin for any reason.

Ah this is a famous issue in the chess world where Sergey Karjakin expressed his opinion about the war. Unfortunately, he supported the war and saw it as something that is positive to him- in which the whole chess community reacted against him. For the statements that he made, he was banned in participating in Norway Chess and he now faces an ethics case against him.

Fellow Russian GM Alexander Grischuk made a statement about the war in which he said that he supports 99% of the international conflicts of Russia, but he is totally against the unnecessary and chaotic war against Ukraine.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: chaser15 on March 04, 2022, 11:26:02 PM
The only question is, how far do you want to go?

What would happen if Putin decides to end the war now? Would these sanctions by the sports associations also be reversed?

Until Putin changed his mind and solve the problem within talks. Unfortunately, that was unlikely to happen and Putin does even have a lot of plans to execute from now on. Yes, sanctions will be lifted especially to sports however Putin will face tons of violations under Human Rights.

I don't see Putin will end their invasion. I also don't see any pressure from Putin even there's a massive call to end the war.

Let's face the fact that will be a long-time war. Even though we don't like what happens to Russian athletes, what choice does the world have to slow down Putin?


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Jasad on March 05, 2022, 03:27:37 AM
I think it's good that the sports world is standing up and protesting through statements and certain exclusions. The only question is, how far do you want to go? a lot of individual players are now being hit, who may also have financial problems as a result. You don't attack the government that way. But it also makes sense that if a few unions impose these sanctions, the rest will follow. What would happen if Putin decides to end the war now? Would these sanctions by the sports associations also be reversed?

From the looks of it, I think, Putin is not thinking of stopping the war. It is more on the opposite, going all out in this war. Sports is one of the industries that will suffer in this aggression. We will see what will happen in the next coming days, but there's no sign of slowing down from Russia's end. Putin is ready to sacrifice his people at all cost. That's the sad truth about this situation.
Russia not try to stop war and invasion to Ukraine exactly have punishment giving by Russian president to UEFA and FIFA after their team national country and Spartak Moscow banned in football competition, Putin have warning for FIFA and UEFA if his national country can participating on World Cup Qatar never hope will have World Cup tournament will begin on Qatar, I think looks serious with warning given by Russia president to FIFA if not unbanned national country on world cup.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: traderethereum on March 05, 2022, 05:08:28 AM
Ukraine is innocent here, it was the Russia that attacks them but not totally all the people there however they are still facing the consequences because of the actions of Putin. I don't think Putin will feel sad seeing the situation of his country or seeing his people struggle. That is why we think restrictions seems not right but we can't do anything about it.

On the other hand some companies don't want to put restrictions because they are only thinking about their business and they can lose some potential profit if they will do it. The ban for Russian athletes can be temporary but the efforts of them practicing and preparing is wasted because they can't compete anymore.
Yes, it's all because of Putin's actions and I think he will get a lot of criticism from people to stop his invasion immediately.
Perhaps Putin wants to conquer Ukraine as quickly as possible and not think about the fate of the affected people, especially his soldiers who are into war.
Many teams or athletes are affected by the Russian invasion of Ukraine and do not know what will happen in the future.
It is one example that war can have a massive effect on a country and it seems that Putin has not thought about that yet.
Hopefully, this will end soon and with further negotiations, it is hoped that there will be peace talks between the two sides.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: madnessteat on March 05, 2022, 06:22:17 AM
The only question is, how far do you want to go?

What would happen if Putin decides to end the war now? Would these sanctions by the sports associations also be reversed?

Until Putin changed his mind and solve the problem within talks. Unfortunately, that was unlikely to happen and Putin does even have a lot of plans to execute from now on. Yes, sanctions will be lifted especially to sports however Putin will face tons of violations under Human Rights.

I don't see Putin will end their invasion. I also don't see any pressure from Putin even there's a massive call to end the war.

Let's face the fact that will be a long-time war. Even though we don't like what happens to Russian athletes, what choice does the world have to slow down Putin?

Putin clearly voiced the goals of the special military operation and it seems to me that he and the people close to him do not care about all these sanctions. They will finish what they started. The sanctions imposed will affect the ordinary citizens of Russia to a greater extent than the elite. As I said before, they have enough money to survive any sanctions impact. Therefore, the EU countries and the USA should not expect the people to go against Putin, they will rather hate the authorities of the countries that impose sanctions aimed at destroying the economy of Russia.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: mindrust on March 05, 2022, 06:55:40 AM
The only question is, how far do you want to go?

What would happen if Putin decides to end the war now? Would these sanctions by the sports associations also be reversed?

Until Putin changed his mind and solve the problem within talks. Unfortunately, that was unlikely to happen and Putin does even have a lot of plans to execute from now on. Yes, sanctions will be lifted especially to sports however Putin will face tons of violations under Human Rights.

I don't see Putin will end their invasion. I also don't see any pressure from Putin even there's a massive call to end the war.

Let's face the fact that will be a long-time war. Even though we don't like what happens to Russian athletes, what choice does the world have to slow down Putin?

Putin clearly voiced the goals of the special military operation and it seems to me that he and the people close to him do not care about all these sanctions. They will finish what they started. The sanctions imposed will affect the ordinary citizens of Russia to a greater extent than the elite. As I said before, they have enough money to survive any sanctions impact. Therefore, the EU countries and the USA should not expect the people to go against Putin, they will rather hate the authorities of the countries that impose sanctions aimed at destroying the economy of Russia.

Haven't the west seized trillions of Russian reserves recently? I am not sure if Russia has enough money to survive this. They got the oil and gas and somebody will indeed buy these from the Russians but it won't be the market price. No matter how you look at it, Russia is in a big trouble financially. Maybe they will survive but the life standards of an average Russian citizen will go down dramatically imo and it wasn't very high to begin with.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: madnessteat on March 05, 2022, 08:10:31 AM
^

A country with resources can last much longer in isolation than a country that has technology but no resources. Naturally, sanctions will lead to a drop in living standards, but the elite have so much money that they will have enough for several generations. The West expects that by lowering the standard of living they will achieve a change of regime in Russia, but they do not take into account that the decision to impose sanctions is made by them. Consequently, the lives of Russian citizens are getting worse because of these decisions. In my opinion, such situations force the people to unite rather than stage a revolution.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Theones on March 05, 2022, 08:22:14 AM
It is nice to see that the world unites to suppress Vladimir Putin and end his invasion to Ukraine. It seems that not only business but also sports which I think is business too but wouldn't that be enough to stop Putin in his invasion to Ukraine? I don't have any idea what will happened to Russia after this war ended? would they be able to get back to sports competitions or they will need to regain back the trust of the other countries before they can reenter the competitions again?

Putin can drag this war for a long time he is an arrogant dictator he will not accept defeat and in fact, he put the nuclear team on high alert, this is too risky we are fighting a mad man who can lead us to nuclear war, that is why countries do not want to directly engage against Russian they are only sending ammunitions and supplies so Ukrainian can keep up fighting Russia.
The super powers can do anything to anyone in particular if they are weak. We have seen this from our childhood. This planet has no place for the weak. Only the fit survive. Yesterday it was Iraq, Serya, Afghanistan today its Ukraine tomorrow it can be my country or your country. No-one knows how many such dreadful deaths we will see in the days to come. There is no end to it. We will all be making noise and one day we all will rest in peace.
But I believe in Karma too. If super powers can do anything so does Karma, Russian faced a down fall of 94% in 1998 in their economy and the government fell in a week. Today Russia faced a down fall of 98% which is worse than what they faced in 98. Let's see what Karma does to them. Sports is a medium to promote peace. But everything seem like beating the brush in air when political authorities have different agenda. 


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: decodx on March 05, 2022, 09:48:29 AM
Anyway, back to the topic ...

The International Swimming Federation (FINA) announced that athletes from Russia and Belarus will be able to compete as neutral athletes.  (https://www.fina.org/news/2509860/press-release-fina-order-award-withdrawn)

Quote from: fina.org
Until further notice, no athlete or Aquatics official from Russia or Belarus be allowed to take part under the name of Russia or Belarus. Russian or Belarusian nationals, be it as individuals or teams, should be accepted only as neutral athletes or neutral teams. No national symbols, colours, flags should be displayed or anthems should be played, in international Aquatics events which are not already part of the respective World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) sanctions for Russia.

FINA remains deeply concerned about the impact of the war on the aquatics community and the wider population of Ukraine. FINA will continue to carefully monitor the grave situation and make further decisions as appropriate.

Furthermore, the International Swimming Federation has withdrawn the FINA Order awarded to Russian President Putin because of the invasion of Ukraine.



World Taekwondo announces that President Putin's aggression against the Ukraine goes against the organization's motto, "Peace Is More Precious Than Triumph." (http://worldtaekwondo.org/wtnews/view.html?nid=138702&mcd=C02) Putin was stripped of his World Taekwondo black belt because of this.

In a statement, governing body said: "World Taekwondo strongly condemns the brutal attacks on innocent lives in Ukraine, which go against the World Taekwondo vision of 'Peace is More Precious than Triumph' and the World Taekwondo values of respect and tolerance.
In this regard, World Taekwondo has decided to withdraw the honorary 9th dan black belt conferred to Mr. Vladimir Putin in November 2013."


In addition, World Taekwondo said that no Russian or Belarusian flags or national anthems will be displayed at future events and that Russian athletes and officials will not be permitted to compete at World Taekwondo events until further notice.



The International Judo Federation (IJF) has suspended Vladimir Putin's status as Honorary President and ambassador following Russia's invasion of Ukraine. (https://www.ijf.org/news/show/official-announcement-of-the-international-judo-federation)

Additionally, the International Judo Federation now cancels all judo competitions on the territory of the Russian Federation (https://www.ijf.org/news/show/statement-of-the-international-judo-federation), providing the Russian athletes with an opportunity to compete only under the IJF flag, logo, and anthem.



Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Boristhecat on March 05, 2022, 10:17:16 AM
A country with resources can last much longer in isolation than a country that has technology but no resources. Naturally, sanctions will lead to a drop in living standards, but the elite have so much money that they will have enough for several generations. The West expects that by lowering the standard of living they will achieve a change of regime in Russia, but they do not take into account that the decision to impose sanctions is made by them. Consequently, the lives of Russian citizens are getting worse because of these decisions. In my opinion, such situations force the people to unite rather than stage a revolution.

It seems to me that you are too optimistic because you think that civilized countries are worried about the change of people who seized power in Russia and therefore impose these sanctions. In fact, everything is worse (for the Russians) - this is isolation. Same as for North Korea or Cuba. Who cares who's in power there? Nobody. Who cares how people survive there? Nobody. The main thing is that no problems should come out of these countries. Nobody cares about the rest. Using nuclear blackmail, North Korea regularly receives some food and humanitarian aid, and is generally isolated. This path awaits Russia.
Taking into account the fact that isolation also applies to sports, we will see in the near future how all Russian athletes who are at least something in the international arena will change their citizenship.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: rodskee on March 05, 2022, 11:23:46 AM
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If everyone wants to change, they will unite and probably the revolution can happen in their country, especially if many people are already suffering.
am not sure if Russian can take that chance to fight against their government because they knew how their president handles cases like this and surely they will face consequences .
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If the war could end, the Russian government would recalculate their resources and the potential they still have so they know what to do.
i think that is how every war ends , then yes it is to happen.
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But everything will change and not only the people but the elites will also change according to the situation and conditions that occur in the country.
they will only go with the flow mate and that's what needs to happen.
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It will only worsen if the Russian government also loses a lot of resources that can't run well.
this is war, resources will surely drops and spend in not so best interest .


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Roidz on March 05, 2022, 11:44:40 AM
It is very difficult to say whether the sanctions are necessary or not, because all this time we have seen slogans not to mix politics with sports, but now various sports authorities are starting to punish athletes who are actually not related to what Putin has been doing so far, I think the sports authorities should be able to revise the sanctions decision they are giving now, because it's tantamount to sports authorities trying to kill the careers of these sports athletes from rusian, I believe that actually all Russian athletes do not approve of war happening.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: decodx on March 05, 2022, 01:49:30 PM
The International Gymnastics Federation (FIG) adopts further measures against Russia and Belarus.  (https://www.gymnastics.sport/site/news/displaynews.php?idNews=3444)

As part of the latest sanctions against Russia's sports program following Putin's invasion of Ukraine, the International Gymnastics Federation has announced an indefinite ban on Russian and Belarusian athletes and officials. All FIG events scheduled for Russia and Belarus will be canceled, and neither country will be awarded a new event.

Quote from: gymnastics.sport
The FIG would like to stress that these exceptional and emergency measures are decided and issued in view of the above-mentioned extraordinary circumstances. They constitute preventive measures aiming at preserving the integrity of Gymnastics, the safety and integrity of members and all athletes and participants, and at fighting against all forms of violence and of sports injustice.

Russian and Belarusian nationals who are members of the FIG Executive Committee or of FIG technical committees are not affected by this measure when acting in their capacity as FIG Authorities.

The EC will continue to monitor the situation closely and may further adapt these exceptional measures according to future developments.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: bittraffic on March 05, 2022, 02:29:21 PM
It is very difficult to say whether the sanctions are necessary or not, because all this time we have seen slogans not to mix politics with sports, but now various sports authorities are starting to punish athletes who are actually not related to what Putin has been doing so far, I think the sports authorities should be able to revise the sanctions decision they are giving now, because it's tantamount to sports authorities trying to kill the careers of these sports athletes from rusian, I believe that actually all Russian athletes do not approve of war happening.

Exactly the point. By banning these athletes what does that make all of us?  We all become racist against them. It's not even their fault why there is a war. These athletes are just trying to make a living for all we know they have lots of debts to pay and we contribute to killing them by hunger or losing thier houses. None so far asked how is this a democracy?


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Cling18 on March 05, 2022, 02:52:34 PM
It is very difficult to say whether the sanctions are necessary or not, because all this time we have seen slogans not to mix politics with sports, but now various sports authorities are starting to punish athletes who are actually not related to what Putin has been doing so far, I think the sports authorities should be able to revise the sanctions decision they are giving now, because it's tantamount to sports authorities trying to kill the careers of these sports athletes from rusian, I believe that actually all Russian athletes do not approve of war happening.

Exactly the point. By banning these athletes what does that make all of us?  We all become racist against them. It's not even their fault why there is a war. These athletes are just trying to make a living for all we know they have lots of debts to pay and we contribute to killing them by hunger or losing thier houses. None so far asked how is this a democracy?


They're actually being discriminated and their hard work as athletes would be wasted because of banning them. I hope the authorities would be fair to them because for sure, they also don't want this war to happen. They aren't responsible for what is happening between the two countries so I find it unfair to them. They don't deserve such discrimination and racism.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: KTChampions on March 05, 2022, 05:24:06 PM
Has Belarus got any hand in the invasion? Why are they part of this ?
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According to the international definition of aggression, the country that provides its territory to the attacking troops is the same aggressor as the country directly leading the aggression. In addition, about 20% of all cruise missiles launched by Russia were fired from the territory of Belarus.
This is already enough to recognize Belarus as an aggressor country on a par with Russia.
As I see it, basically all sanctions (and in sports too) are the same for both countries, but in some places they forget about Belarus, I hope this will be fixed soon.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: decodx on March 05, 2022, 06:21:44 PM
Haas F1 team terminates contract with Russian driver Nikita Mazepin and title partner Uralkali  (https://twitter.com/HaasF1Team/status/1500031737581158412)

According to a statement by the Haas F1 team, the Russian driver Nikita Mazepin and the title sponsor Uralkali have been released from their contracts as a result of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

https://i.imgur.com/PEFa3ht.png
https://twitter.com/HaasF1Team/status/1500031737581158412


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: KTChampions on March 05, 2022, 08:59:57 PM
Haas F1 team terminates contract with Russian driver Nikita Mazepin and title partner Uralkali  (https://twitter.com/HaasF1Team/status/1500031737581158412)

According to a statement by the Haas F1 team, the Russian driver Nikita Mazepin and the title sponsor Uralkali have been released from their contracts as a result of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

https://i.imgur.com/PEFa3ht.png
https://twitter.com/HaasF1Team/status/1500031737581158412

I would not call specifically this case the reaction of the sports world to Russian aggression - this is pure business. Uralkali was (like probably all Russian enterprises already) under sanctions, so the contract with them had to be broken and all the obligations arising from it (the presence of a Russian racer in the team).


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: rby on March 06, 2022, 09:11:56 PM
It is very difficult to say whether the sanctions are necessary or not, because all this time we have seen slogans not to mix politics with sports, but now various sports authorities are starting to punish athletes who are actually not related to what Putin has been doing so far, I think the sports authorities should be able to revise the sanctions decision they are giving now, because it's tantamount to sports authorities trying to kill the careers of these sports athletes from rusian, I believe that actually all Russian athletes do not approve of war happening.
It is difficult to separate sports and politics. Sports is happening in a political world. Sports companies are owned by politicians. And human being is a political animal. When wars starts it affects every sector and sports is not excluded. How can sports keep quiet?
When there is war, the emotions of players are poisoned and they can kill their fellow sportsmen from the opposition country. That is why they should be sanctioned too.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Tash on March 07, 2022, 08:06:26 AM

‘There’s Poland, now walk’: Arab students’ ordeal out of Ukraine
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/5/thats-poland-now-walk-arab-students-plight-out-of-ukraine


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: lumbanrang on March 07, 2022, 01:52:17 PM
It is very difficult to say whether the sanctions are necessary or not, because all this time we have seen slogans not to mix politics with sports, but now various sports authorities are starting to punish athletes who are actually not related to what Putin has been doing so far, I think the sports authorities should be able to revise the sanctions decision they are giving now, because it's tantamount to sports authorities trying to kill the careers of these sports athletes from rusian, I believe that actually all Russian athletes do not approve of war happening.

Honestly, sanctions have little effect on Putin's actions and he doesn't seem to care about it. If we talk about people who are affected by sanctions imposed by the US and NATO, especially those in the sports sector, what about those who are affected by Russian aggression? there are many people who died and more than 1 million people had to get out of their country. Those who are affected by sanctions by the US and NATO can at least still live in their countries, but what about Ukrainian citizens? they live in conditions of uncertainty and terror from Russian tanks.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: decodx on March 07, 2022, 08:10:35 PM
Sports Ministers from 26 nations meet to discuss Russian competition sanctions (https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1120209/sports-ministers-russia-26)

There has been an agreement between sport ministers of 26 countries to block Russian and Belarusian athletes from competing in their countries. That's a big deal when you consider how many tournaments are held in those countries.

The 26 countries are the UK, United States, Lithuania, Australia, Japan, Ireland, South Korea, Canada, France, Poland, Austria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Iceland, Latvia, Luxembourg, Malta, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Slovakia, Sweden and Switzerland.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: decodx on March 26, 2022, 08:15:10 PM
Two Russian sporting federations have formally backed the invasion of Ukraine, as a number of athletes in the country continue to publicly support Putin and the war.

In an Instagram post published on Friday, the Russian Boxing Federation showed its support for President Vladimir Putin and the Russian military operation in Ukraine, as first reported by Inside the Games (https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1120893/russia-federations-ukraine-war-support).

In addition, the president of the Russian Bowling Federation, Sergey Lisitsyn, has voiced his support for the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Lisitsyn wrote an open letter to Putin on behalf of the federation's leadership, which has been posted on the organization's website.

So much for the idea that politics and sport should be kept apart.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: decodx on April 30, 2022, 06:40:26 PM
IIHF Moves 2023 World Championships Out of Russia

Another sport event that Russia will not be participating in has been announced by the International Ice Hockey Federation: the 2023 World Championships will not be held in that country. In its statement, the IIHF said that it will announce a new host for the 2023 World Championship during its annual congress in Tampere, Finland, during the final week of the 2022 World Championship.

According to IIHF's statement, the decision to move the event was made primarily for the safety and well-being of the players, officials, media, and fans involved.
"As was the case with Council's earlier decision to withdraw the 2023 IIHF World Junior Championship that was to be held in Omsk and Novosibirsk, Russia, the Council expressed significant concerns over the safe freedom of movement of players and officials to, from, and within Russia."

Earlier this year, the IIHF suspended Russian and Belarusian teams from its competitions until further notice and revoked Russia's hosting rights for the 2023 world junior championships.

source: https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/ice-hockey-russia-loses-2023-world-championship-iihf-2022-04-26/


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: decodx on May 02, 2022, 10:06:53 PM
UEFA bans Russia from women's Euros and World Cup, clubs banned next season

According to the Reuters, UEFA has banned Russia from the Women's European Championship in July and from qualifying for next year's World Cup. In addition, the UEFA ruled Russia's bid to host the men's Euros in 2028 and 2032 ineligible, which means Turkey's bid to host the 2032 tournament is the only one that rivals Britain and Ireland's joint bid to host Euro 2028.

The European soccer's governing body said Russia's bid was ineligible in accordance with its regulations, which states "each bidder shall ensure that it does not act in a manner that could bring UEFA, the UEFA final or UEFA final phase, any other bidder, the bidding procedure or European football into disrepute".

Additionally, Russian clubs will not compete in UEFA's Champions League, Europa League or Europa Conference League next season.

source: https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/uefa-bans-russia-womens-euros-world-cup-qualifying-2022-05-02/


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: 24Kt on May 02, 2022, 10:13:39 PM
UEFA bans Russia from women's Euros and World Cup, clubs banned next season

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More and more organizations are ignoring Russian athletes. I believe, this has tremendous effect to the athletes themselves. They can't go to the world stage for the time being up until these leagues or organizations lift up the sanctions. We don't know when, but Russian athletes seemed not to be seen for the next couple of years. There may be change in the future but it depends on how these organizations react after the war is over.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: decodx on May 04, 2022, 07:25:30 PM
More and more organizations are ignoring Russian athletes. I believe, this has tremendous effect to the athletes themselves. They can't go to the world stage for the time being up until these leagues or organizations lift up the sanctions. We don't know when, but Russian athletes seemed not to be seen for the next couple of years. There may be change in the future but it depends on how these organizations react after the war is over.

That is not entirely true. The vast majority of athletes can still compete, just not under the Russian flag. It is only fair when you look at what their country has been doing in Ukraine. The Russian nationals should only be accepted as neutral athletes or neutral teams. I just don't think they deserve to compete for Russia.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: LTU_btc on May 04, 2022, 11:14:32 PM
That is not entirely true. The vast majority of athletes can still compete, just not under the Russian flag. It is only fair when you look at what their country has been doing in Ukraine. The Russian nationals should only be accepted as neutral athletes or neutral teams. I just don't think they deserve to compete for Russia.

I don't think that vast majority of athletes still can compete under neutral flag. From main sports only tennis comes to my head. And still, not in every tournament, like they're already banned from Wimbledon. Maybe cycling too, I'm no sure.
They still can represent foreign sports teams in football, basketball, hockey and so on, but that's different thing.
From what I noticed, Belarus don't get such strict sanctions like Russia, what's probably unfair, considering that this country become military base of Russia to attack Ukraine. For example, UEFA didn't banned Belarus national teams and clubs from their competitions.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: decodx on May 05, 2022, 10:21:45 AM
That is not entirely true. The vast majority of athletes can still compete, just not under the Russian flag. It is only fair when you look at what their country has been doing in Ukraine. The Russian nationals should only be accepted as neutral athletes or neutral teams. I just don't think they deserve to compete for Russia.

I don't think that vast majority of athletes still can compete under neutral flag. From main sports only tennis comes to my head. And still, not in every tournament, like they're already banned from Wimbledon. Maybe cycling too, I'm no sure.
They still can represent foreign sports teams in football, basketball, hockey and so on, but that's different thing.
From what I noticed, Belarus don't get such strict sanctions like Russia, what's probably unfair, considering that this country become military base of Russia to attack Ukraine. For example, UEFA didn't banned Belarus national teams and clubs from their competitions.

Yes, it seems that many teams and athletes have been banned from all competitions. Based on the news I have followed over the last few months, since the beginning of the Russian invasion, I was under the impression that most governing bodies and committees allow athletes to compete under neutral flags. It seems that this is no longer the case.

Here are some of the exceptions I've found:
  • The FIA said (https://www.fia.com/news/fia-announces-world-motor-sport-council-decisions-relation-situation-ukraine) that Russian and Belarusian drivers could compete under the neutral "FIA flag."
  • The ITF Board announced (https://www.atptour.com/en/news/joint-statement-by-the-international-governing-bodies-of-tennis-1-march-2022) players from Russia and Belarus will continue to be allowed to compete in international tennis events on Tour and at the Grand Slams. However, they will not compete under the name or flag of Russia or Belarus.
  • The International Swimming Federation (FINA) (https://www.fina.org/news/2509860/press-release-fina-order-award-withdrawn) will allow Russian and Belarusian athletes to compete, but it will not be able to do so with their country's name or symbols and must compete as neutral athletes.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: LTU_btc on May 12, 2022, 11:39:50 PM
There is possibility that in some sports Russian athletes will be able to compete again, despite that war continues. First, it's Table Tennis Champions League - yeah, I also didn't know that such competition exists. Russian clubs were reinstated to this competition after European Table Tennis Union (ETTU) Board of Appeal decision:
https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1122760/russia-mixed-ruling-ettu-teams
Similar decision month ago was made by International Luge Federation (FIL);
https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1121647/russia-successful-appeal-against-fil#comments
But probably it's not an end of story in both cases.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Gyfts on May 13, 2022, 02:42:41 PM
There is possibility that in some sports Russian athletes will be able to compete again, despite that war continues. First, it's Table Tennis Champions League - yeah, I also didn't know that such competition exists. Russian clubs were reinstated to this competition after European Table Tennis Union (ETTU) Board of Appeal decision:
https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1122760/russia-mixed-ruling-ettu-teams
Similar decision month ago was made by International Luge Federation (FIL);
https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1121647/russia-successful-appeal-against-fil#comments
But probably it's not an end of story in both cases.

Good. Banning Russian athletes doesn't do anything to stop war efforts. Seems the Russian army doesn't even support the war efforts, let alone athletes not involved in any way.

If the Olympics can be hosted in China, then the selective application of virtue signaling surely need not to apply to Russian athletes. After all, an unworthy war by Russia isn't too much worse than concentration camps of muslims by China. We don't punish the athletes for the actions of a country's government.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: LTU_btc on May 14, 2022, 09:33:30 PM
Good. Banning Russian athletes doesn't do anything to stop war efforts. Seems the Russian army doesn't even support the war efforts, let alone athletes not involved in any way.

If the Olympics can be hosted in China, then the selective application of virtue signaling surely need not to apply to Russian athletes. After all, an unworthy war by Russia isn't too much worse than concentration camps of muslims by China. We don't punish the athletes for the actions of a country's government.
I don't agree with you. Banning Russian atheltes won't stop war, but I think it's not ok to not react and act like nothing didn't happened. Especially when some their athletes support war and even participate in pro-Putin rallies
You also can say that average Russian people aren't responsible for war, but sanctions mostly affect them. I would call it as collective responsibilty. It's far from perfect solution, but nobody didn't offered better solution
And IMO, countries like China or Qatar shouldn't be allowed to held such competitions like Olympics or Wolrd Cup.


Title: Re: The world of sport reacts to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Post by: Gyfts on May 15, 2022, 03:39:07 AM
Good. Banning Russian athletes doesn't do anything to stop war efforts. Seems the Russian army doesn't even support the war efforts, let alone athletes not involved in any way.

If the Olympics can be hosted in China, then the selective application of virtue signaling surely need not to apply to Russian athletes. After all, an unworthy war by Russia isn't too much worse than concentration camps of muslims by China. We don't punish the athletes for the actions of a country's government.
I don't agree with you. Banning Russian atheltes won't stop war, but I think it's not ok to not react and act like nothing didn't happened. Especially when some their athletes support war and even participate in pro-Putin rallies
You also can say that average Russian people aren't responsible for war, but sanctions mostly affect them. I would call it as collective responsibilty. It's far from perfect solution, but nobody didn't offered better solution
And IMO, countries like China or Qatar shouldn't be allowed to held such competitions like Olympics or Wolrd Cup.

I'm not a big fan of sanctions either to be clear. Putin isn't personally hurt by the sanctions. His oligarch billionaire friends are still doing well for themselves too. It's the middle and lower class Russians that pay the biggest price. There are plenty of Russians that don't agree with Putin and his war. If protests were allowed in Russia, I'd imagine there'd be more vocal dissent than what you're seeing. If an organization wanted to boot explicit pro-Putin athletes, then perhaps that would be more reasonable than punishing someone that has nothing to do with the invasion. Just my opinion.