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Title: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: Etranger on March 04, 2022, 11:11:21 AM Russian troops are shelling the largest nuclear power plant in Europe. These actions could lead to catastrophe all over the world. Anyone familiar with Chornobyl should understand that only one nuclear reactor exploded in 1986. There are 6 such reactors at the Zaporizhzhya station. The destruction of the station, where Russian soldiers fire from tanks and mortars, could be fatal not only for Ukraine but for the entire continent.
The world community must stop the Russian army, which is committing crimes against humanity! https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/top-wrap-1-europes-largest-nuclear-power-plant-fire-after-russian-attack-mayor-2022-03-04/ (https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/top-wrap-1-europes-largest-nuclear-power-plant-fire-after-russian-attack-mayor-2022-03-04/) https://time.com/6154672/russian-troops-shell-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-plant/ (https://time.com/6154672/russian-troops-shell-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-plant/) https://globalnews.ca/news/8658032/ukraine-russia-nuclear-plant-fire/ (https://globalnews.ca/news/8658032/ukraine-russia-nuclear-plant-fire/) https://www.npr.org/2022/03/03/1084414241/a-contested-ukrainian-nuclear-plant-is-under-attack-by-russian-forces?t=1646392088506 (https://www.npr.org/2022/03/03/1084414241/a-contested-ukrainian-nuclear-plant-is-under-attack-by-russian-forces?t=1646392088506) Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: lumbanrang on March 04, 2022, 03:47:04 PM I've read articles on this subject and I think Russia's actions this time have gone insane. Their actions by attacking a vital object like this almost killed millions of people in Europe. There must be further action regarding this Russian action because their actions are beyond human understanding, they have played with millions of human lives.
Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: martha1 on March 04, 2022, 03:57:24 PM According to BBC the attack didn't cause any severe damage none of the safety systems at the plant were affected, and there was no release of radioactive material.
You can read the full thing here: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-60609633 The world community must stop the Russian army, which is committing crimes against humanity! You're going a bit too far here don't you think ::) Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: af_newbie on March 04, 2022, 04:00:56 PM I've read articles on this subject and I think Russia's actions this time have gone insane. Their actions by attacking a vital object like this almost killed millions of people in Europe. There must be further action regarding this Russian action because their actions are beyond human understanding, they have played with millions of human lives. Putin seized the nuclear power stations and use them to demand NATO withdrawal from Eastern Europe and to stop the delivery of weapons to Ukraine. If NATO will not comply, he will blow them up. Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: Etranger on March 04, 2022, 04:05:37 PM According to BBC the attack didn't cause any severe damage none of the safety systems at the plant were affected, and there was no release of radioactive material. Yeah, so let`s wait for these serious damage to happen. Waiting is the best decision. We have already waited for sanctions to be imposed on Russia. This only happened after a few days of full-scale war. After only a few thousand people killed on both sides, destroyed cities and the total horror of the entire population of my country. You're going a bit too far here don't you think ::) No, I don`t. I have lived all my life in the country where Chornobyl exploded. The consequences are not very pleasant. You can believe it now, or we can all wait for it to happen again. Then you will have direct access to information. Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: suchmoon on March 04, 2022, 04:07:07 PM You're going a bit too far here don't you think ::) Someone's going too far here but it's not really the OP, it's the senile KGBist in the Kremlin (or more likely in a bunker in Ural). There is no sane reason for invaders to go anywhere near the nuclear power plants. The whole "calm down, it didn't blow up this time" nonsense is just so fucking stupid. Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: istiak2277 on March 04, 2022, 04:21:51 PM I've read articles on this subject and I think Russia's actions this time have gone insane. Their actions by attacking a vital object like this almost killed millions of people in Europe. There must be further action regarding this Russian action because their actions are beyond human understanding, they have played with millions of human lives. Putin seized the nuclear power stations and use them to demand NATO withdrawal from Eastern Europe and to stop the delivery of weapons to Ukraine. If NATO will not comply, he will blow them up. I haven't saw any statement from Putin similar to this. Some Russia's officials says this could lead to a nuclear war but blown up a nuclear power plant is not Putin wants to do. There was a fire broke out when RF shelling Ukrainian position there but there is not much damage happens. Some rumors spread that there was a radiation leak but that was also found false. Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: af_newbie on March 04, 2022, 09:39:18 PM I've read articles on this subject and I think Russia's actions this time have gone insane. Their actions by attacking a vital object like this almost killed millions of people in Europe. There must be further action regarding this Russian action because their actions are beyond human understanding, they have played with millions of human lives. Putin seized the nuclear power stations and use them to demand NATO withdrawal from Eastern Europe and to stop the delivery of weapons to Ukraine. If NATO will not comply, he will blow them up. I haven't saw any statement from Putin similar to this. Some Russia's officials says this could lead to a nuclear war but blown up a nuclear power plant is not Putin wants to do. There was a fire broke out when RF shelling Ukrainian position there but there is not much damage happens. Some rumors spread that there was a radiation leak but that was also found false. https://www.foxnews.com/world/russian-troops-aiming-to-mine-nuclear-plant-to-blackmail-all-of-europe-zaporizhzhia-employees Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: suchmoon on March 04, 2022, 10:03:57 PM I haven't saw any statement from Putin similar to this. Have you learned nothing from movies? The villain doesn't reveal the whole evil plan until the tearful good-bye scene. Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: lumbanrang on March 05, 2022, 03:37:25 PM I've read articles on this subject and I think Russia's actions this time have gone insane. Their actions by attacking a vital object like this almost killed millions of people in Europe. There must be further action regarding this Russian action because their actions are beyond human understanding, they have played with millions of human lives. Putin seized the nuclear power stations and use them to demand NATO withdrawal from Eastern Europe and to stop the delivery of weapons to Ukraine. If NATO will not comply, he will blow them up. If so, Putin would be the second Hitler to kill millions of people in Europe. This man has really gone mad, but NATO and its allies are just silent about their actions and only dare to impose sanctions. smh Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: Etranger on March 05, 2022, 10:11:14 PM I've read articles on this subject and I think Russia's actions this time have gone insane. Their actions by attacking a vital object like this almost killed millions of people in Europe. There must be further action regarding this Russian action because their actions are beyond human understanding, they have played with millions of human lives. Putin seized the nuclear power stations and use them to demand NATO withdrawal from Eastern Europe and to stop the delivery of weapons to Ukraine. If NATO will not comply, he will blow them up. I haven't saw any statement from Putin similar to this. Some Russia's officials says this could lead to a nuclear war but blown up a nuclear power plant is not Putin wants to do. There was a fire broke out when RF shelling Ukrainian position there but there is not much damage happens. Some rumors spread that there was a radiation leak but that was also found false. Of course, Putin won`t make any statement about this. Haven't you learned his tactics yet? He claimed for 8 years that "they are not there" in Donbass. It took several days of full-scale war for him to finally admit that they had dead soldiers. But even so they died in some "special operation" incomprehensible to anyone. Backstage games have become a cultural code of Russia. Putin never publicly admits that he is blackmailing the Ukrainian government and NATO in this way. But he only fools his own people with such behavior. Everyone else has long understood everything. Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: Ultegra134 on March 05, 2022, 10:24:10 PM I don't believe (or at least I find it hard to believe) that Putin actually wants to blow up Ukraine's nuclear plants. The fire that broke out at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant wasn't within the reactor's area, although things can easily take a turn for the worst, shelling it is potentially sending a message, by showing a sample of what he is capable of doing.
I highly doubt it that the purpose of the attack was to cause a nuclear explosion, because that would eventually mean the end of humanity as we know it. I'm not excluding this scenario by any means, if Putin's invasion isn't successful, he might as well take the whole world with him, rather than face NATO and the EU, he won't have anything else to lose, and that's what makes him dangerous. Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: PLayerZero14 on March 05, 2022, 10:36:41 PM I don't believe (or at least I find it hard to believe) that Putin actually wants to blow up Ukraine's nuclear plants. The fire that broke out at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant wasn't within the reactor's area, although things can easily take a turn for the worst, shelling it is potentially sending a message, by showing a sample of what he is capable of doing. Totally agree i think putin is trying to keep civilian casualties as low as possible in this war to not further provoke NATO members that's why we haven't see any major bombing campaigns and airstrikes (which the russian army is very capable of doing ), so putin wanting to destroy a nuclear power plant and ultimately turning that area to a nuclear waste land is not something you want to do if your goal is to seize a country without causing unnecessary attention.I highly doubt it that the purpose of the attack was to cause a nuclear explosion, because that would eventually mean the end of humanity as we know it. I'm not excluding this scenario by any means, if Putin's invasion isn't successful, he might as well take the whole world with him, rather than face NATO and the EU, he won't have anything else to lose, and that's what makes him dangerous. Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: tvbcof on March 05, 2022, 11:30:41 PM I don't believe (or at least I find it hard to believe) that Putin actually wants to blow up Ukraine's nuclear plants. The fire that broke out at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant wasn't within the reactor's area, although things can easily take a turn for the worst, shelling it is potentially sending a message, by showing a sample of what he is capable of doing. I highly doubt it that the purpose of the attack was to cause a nuclear explosion, because that would eventually mean the end of humanity as we know it. I'm not excluding this scenario by any means, if Putin's invasion isn't successful, he might as well take the whole world with him, rather than face NATO and the EU, he won't have anything else to lose, and that's what makes him dangerous. It takes a special kind of stupid to actually believe that 'Putin shelled the nuclear plant'. I'm pleasantly surprised that you didn't fall for that one to be honest. Of course a nuclear power facility is a pretty big thing, and this one in particular. The Rooshins would know all about how it is layed out because they built the fuckin thing (I'm making an educated guess here.) If certain areas of the facility were slightly damaged in fighting it wouldn't surprise me. It also wouldn't surprise me if factions aligned with Ukraine did some level of sabotage in some sort of ham-fisted false-flag propaganda effort. Or if some of the products went missing in the 'fog of war'. Or all of the above. Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: Hetadrop on March 06, 2022, 02:01:47 AM I don't believe (or at least I find it hard to believe) that Putin actually wants to blow up Ukraine's nuclear plants. The fire that broke out at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant wasn't within the reactor's area, although things can easily take a turn for the worst, shelling it is potentially sending a message, by showing a sample of what he is capable of doing. Totally agree i think putin is trying to keep civilian casualties as low as possible in this war to not further provoke NATO members that's why we haven't see any major bombing campaigns and airstrikes (which the russian army is very capable of doing ).I highly doubt it that the purpose of the attack was to cause a nuclear explosion, because that would eventually mean the end of humanity as we know it. I'm not excluding this scenario by any means, if Putin's invasion isn't successful, he might as well take the whole world with him, rather than face NATO and the EU, he won't have anything else to lose, and that's what makes him dangerous. Luckily we have internet and everyone can see Putin's war crimes. Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: im posible on March 07, 2022, 03:00:48 AM May Russia be wise in taking over Chornobyl and not use it rashly. One nuclear reactor that once exploded had a very terrible effect, don't let it happen again.
I've heard Putin's remarks about nuclear, and I believe that Putin and Russia are not so barbaric to destroy the world without really strong reasons. Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: Etranger on March 07, 2022, 09:15:42 AM May Russia be wise in taking over Chornobyl and not use it rashly. One nuclear reactor that once exploded had a very terrible effect, don't let it happen again. I've heard Putin's remarks about nuclear, and I believe that Putin and Russia are not so barbaric to destroy the world without really strong reasons. Maybe they don't plan to do it on purpose. However, there are military units at the nuclear plant that Moscow does not control. They can act on their own, and no one can be sure that their actions are appropriate. Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: Ultegra134 on March 08, 2022, 06:14:55 PM I don't believe (or at least I find it hard to believe) that Putin actually wants to blow up Ukraine's nuclear plants. The fire that broke out at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant wasn't within the reactor's area, although things can easily take a turn for the worst, shelling it is potentially sending a message, by showing a sample of what he is capable of doing. Totally agree i think putin is trying to keep civilian casualties as low as possible in this war to not further provoke NATO members that's why we haven't see any major bombing campaigns and airstrikes (which the russian army is very capable of doing ).I highly doubt it that the purpose of the attack was to cause a nuclear explosion, because that would eventually mean the end of humanity as we know it. I'm not excluding this scenario by any means, if Putin's invasion isn't successful, he might as well take the whole world with him, rather than face NATO and the EU, he won't have anything else to lose, and that's what makes him dangerous. Luckily we have internet and everyone can see Putin's war crimes. Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: suchmoon on March 09, 2022, 12:49:08 PM May Russia be wise in taking over Chornobyl and not use it rashly. One nuclear reactor that once exploded had a very terrible effect, don't let it happen again. I've heard Putin's remarks about nuclear, and I believe that Putin and Russia are not so barbaric to destroy the world without really strong reasons. You have to be seriously fucked in the head to think that there might possibly exist "really strong reasons" to destroy the world. Or you're just shitposting random phrases with no clue what you're talking about. Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: evilgreed on March 09, 2022, 02:59:11 PM Ffs. The entire thing is not right, regardless of how it is sugarcoated. You don't go into another country's nuclear plant and use it as a bargaining chip to satisfy your wants. This has been going on long enough. The effects it's having on the people involved is no joke and are obviously irreversible. With over 5k sanctions which is several times higher than on Iran (about 3k), Putin is also puting his own people into hell with him. I really don't get this guy anymore no matter how much I try and give reason to his actions; benefit of the doubt. Sigh...
Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: Markinzo on March 09, 2022, 07:35:36 PM Russian troops are shelling the largest nuclear power plant in Europe. These actions could lead to catastrophe all over the world. Anyone familiar with Chornobyl should understand that only one nuclear reactor exploded in 1986. There are 6 such reactors at the Zaporizhzhya station. The destruction of the station, where Russian soldiers fire from tanks and mortars, could be fatal not only for Ukraine but for the entire continent. The world community must stop the Russian army, which is committing crimes against humanity! It's quite sympathetic with all you have said. But one bitter truth is that, it's not in your place to hurriedly determine or say Russia is commiting crimes against humanity. We have the UN and other organizations alike, let them stand up to their duty and save the world before this situation escalate beyond the normal. Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: Ultegra134 on March 09, 2022, 07:49:46 PM May Russia be wise in taking over Chornobyl and not use it rashly. One nuclear reactor that once exploded had a very terrible effect, don't let it happen again. I've heard Putin's remarks about nuclear, and I believe that Putin and Russia are not so barbaric to destroy the world without really strong reasons. You have to be seriously fucked in the head to think that there might possibly exist "really strong reasons" to destroy the world. Or you're just shitposting random phrases with no clue what you're talking about. Title: Re: Russian forces seize huge Ukrainian nuclear plant Post by: Etranger on March 09, 2022, 07:52:20 PM It's quite sympathetic with all you have said. But one bitter truth is that, it's not in your place to hurriedly determine or say Russia is commiting crimes against humanity. We have the UN and other organizations alike, let them stand up to their duty and save the world before this situation escalate beyond the normal. UN is doing nothing. Their duties can be described as claiming their “concern”. There were obvious reasons days ago to stop Russia from ruining civilian buildings and killing innocent people. There were multiple video evidence, where Russian captive soldiers admitted they had an order to do this. It is not a secret for UN and other organisations. But they choose to ignore this. This situations has escalated beyond normal 13 days ago. We are trying to convey to the world that drastic measures must be taken before it is too late. That’s why, it is my duty, as well as it is duty of all Ukrainians, to stand for our country. Because no one will do it for us. |