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Title: In a world where trust fails
Post by: Zilon on March 14, 2022, 08:49:35 AM
We now live in a society where no one trust each other for a reliable business any longer. A world where greed and selfishness is eating up the world at large, a world where every one thinks about only themselves and what the stand to gain in every process they engage in not minding if others had a stake.

I have come to fully appreciate the innovation of Bitcoin and Blockchain that has opened the door to decentralization. A peer-2-peer network system where everyone is protecting their interest through a consensus mechanism. If it must work we all must make it work kind of mindset. A system where everyone needs each other to keep the vision growing.

Now there will be no need for fear of greed or self centered motives because for the system to  get altered every one must come in agreement like wise the same concept if the vision must continue working. No one has autonomy of the system, no central authority no regulatory agency. Satoshi really saw the future of mankind and taught of this innovation

#Thanks to Satoshi


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: CryptoATM on March 14, 2022, 09:57:08 AM
If BTC is a country that we humans are living in it will make more sense with is full decentralization but what about the outside world? Greed will always be here

1. Years back few people stood up to take the name of BTC creator, that's complete greed.
2. Scammers still Rob people off their coins anyways either through hacking, phishing or other.
3. Regulation is still pushing BTC and other crypto back, not all humans have the confidence to still own a BTC since the government aren't giving them the go ahead which is where I think regulation will work.

My point is no matter how might a sword can be the wielder can be consumed by greed, evil, good, or other.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: Rruchi man on March 14, 2022, 10:50:27 AM
I have come to full appreciate the innovation of Bitcoin and Blockchain that has opened the door to decentralization. A peer-2-peer network system where everyone is protecting their interest through a consensus mechanism. If it must work we all must make it work kind of mindset. A system where everyone needs each other to keep the vision growing.
Unfortunately this p2p network is not void of people who have been scammed and the bitcoins never returned. Trust is not a commodity in the market these days, it has to be earned and to be earned, there has to be a proven track record. Don't just trust the p2p network simply because you believe in satoshi and his vision for a safe transaction space with everybody's interest represented, even among the biblical selected disciples of Christ there was still a judas", don't easily trust.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: noorman0 on March 14, 2022, 01:30:14 PM
With decentralization which means giving up legal guarantees to get involved in problems, it actually opens up more opportunities for people to cheat and be deceived. Therefore, in a decentralized financial system it is more popular to use the word "don't trust, verify". A trustworthy person will first suggest research and explain the risks rather than shouting "trust me" and "it's profitable".


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: Jawhead999 on March 14, 2022, 01:47:51 PM
But most of people is using centralized exchanges and even worst hold their coins on there, while there's many non custodial wallet and decentralized exchanges exist. People need to move from CEX to DEX, this will prevent from any hack, scam, data breach events... also make the volume trading better. Lack of liquidity and higher fees are disadvantages of DEX, that's the reason DEX is so underrated/unpopular. If someone still holding his coins on CEX, I think he doesn't even understand why does Bitcoin was created and just looking for profit.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: bitmover on March 14, 2022, 02:17:30 PM
We now live in a society where no one trust each other for a reliable business any longer. A world where greed and selfishness is eating up the world at large, a world where every one thinks about only themselves and what the stand to gain in every process they engage in not minding if others had a stake.

I think nobody should be trusting their money to anyone. This is not related to greed or selfishness, but to freedom.

Bitcoin and its trustless system has nothing to do with greed or "everyone thinks about only themselves".

It is about I am the owner of my money and I decide about its fate. This is about property rights, freedom and censorship.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: DdmrDdmr on March 14, 2022, 03:32:17 PM
Bitcoin, although often referenced as a trustless system, is not really exempt from requiring trust at some levels. Fine, there is no central authority nor organization behind it, but we still need to trust the software, and that those that are evolving it do it flawlessly, and are on the watch out for potential menaces to the subjacent protocol and encryption.

It is of course open source, so one could go and verify for himself, but let’s be honest, there are very few that will attempt to do so, and even less really capable. It’s trust on a different scale, but trust nonetheless, although shifting the focus to an ameliorated scenario …


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: sunsilk on March 14, 2022, 08:48:22 PM
Greed is human nature and that won't be gone for some people that haven't learned a huge lesson for having that attitude. Whilst the others have learned in an expensive and hard way, that made them change.

We now live in a society where no one trust each other for a reliable business any longer.
I still believe about trusting people for business partnerships is still existing. Lately, I talked to a couple of my friends about forming a business and we're all sincere to what we're planning but there's no execution yet and that's why I believe that trusting others about you and their business is still existing.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: sheenshane on March 14, 2022, 10:25:27 PM
But before you will trust Bitcoin you must understand how it will work.
We saw there are different reports of losing their Bitcoin and getting scammed because they don't know how to protect their asset though they know that Bitcoin brings them freedom and could be trustless but they'd lack of knowledge how to keep it.  So IMO, Bitcoin isn't for everyone, if you're willing to understand what is Bitcoin how the mechanism work, then, Bitcoin it's good for you.

Satoshi, the name who created Bitcoin and we should be thankful to this person that until now many people have been benefited and changed their lives through using Bitcoin.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: Doan9269 on March 15, 2022, 09:47:25 AM
I have come to full appreciate the innovation of Bitcoin and Blockchain that has opened the door to decentralization. A peer-2-peer network system where everyone is protecting their interest through a consensus mechanism. If it must work we all must make it work kind of mindset. A system where everyone needs each other to keep the vision growing.

This is quite motivating, it feels good being amidst people you can relent on, trust and believe every spoken words of their mouth, this also serve as a lesson to us all that after being a active member of this unique forum, we are not expected to join the world of all manners of fraudulent activities, because you cant be in this forum and remain the same way you came.

Satoshi really saw the future of mankind and taught of this innovation

Satoshi has done his part and the impact remains, it is left on us too in deciding what footprints are we leaving behind for generations to come


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: Pmalek on March 15, 2022, 10:42:57 AM
Bitcoin won't help to get rid of the greed and the scamming, which has become part of human nature. It seems like society has accepted that it's completely fine if you cheat and steal if there is an opportunity for that. Fraudulent activities haven't decreased with the introduction of Bitcoin. They have, in fact, increased because crypto opens up new possibilities. That also entails new ways to scam someone.

A trustless and decentralized protocol still needs two honest parties to fully utilize its advantages. If we are talking about P2P trading without the use of a 3rd party, which is one of the benefits of using Bitcoin. If we are just moving that trust from a traditional financial institution to some other middleman, we have just changed the packaging, but the faulty product has still not been fixed.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: GeorgeJohn on March 15, 2022, 11:11:23 AM
Bitcoin is a decentralized currency that have it's own autonomy, so emphasising on trust via centralized currency and decentralized currency, so on decentralized currency which is Bitcoin from this scenario, the reliability in Bitcoin can be seventy five percent sure in terms of security purposes and confidence, actually people rely on bitcoin base on Satoshi ideology or concepts over personal management and higher security of protecting your currency, but in the aspect of fiat currency, the reliability is not what can be secured because it can be easily be manipulate because of it's centralized. So trust building is sure in Bitcoin than fiat.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: Mpamaegbu on March 15, 2022, 11:47:13 AM
Greed and the issue of trust is as old as age itself. It has been there from time immemorial. Bitcoin hasn't been able to change that and I don't think it can. A major defect to things going awry with the Bitcoin blockchain is that those who attempt to be greedy and hijack it will always end up with a Bitcoin fork. It's not that we don't have greedy folks on it. There have been several attempts anyway as history has blessed us with. Trust nobody for the sake of it when it comes to online transactions. Make them earn the trust. Even when they earn it, treat it with skepticism.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: Dillonhebist on March 15, 2022, 01:36:36 PM
in the world today greed has concerned the business world, everybody is looking for  ways to make money and not ways to improve, making bad decisions because they have been blinded with money, taking more clients than they can efficiently manage thinking that more clients brings more money, they don't want to mentor anyone they want to be the only boss, they don't help anyone, they want to be the master of all so many individuals are lacking faith in the business world because greed have taken over the business world. But in bitcoin world it not so because p2p network is more secured and that has made so many individuals believe more on bitcoin.



Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: Findingnemo on March 15, 2022, 03:18:07 PM
Bitcoin can't stop the greed of people as well, it gives financial freedom not the independence hope there is difference between both. But the flaw of cash system is inflation which is what made the bitcoin to grow bigger every year when people started realising that they are using the money which keep losing its value.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: Marykeller on March 15, 2022, 05:19:18 PM
Bitcoin is the best thing that ever happened to humanity. Being financially free and having your asset controlled by you gives joy.
It pains me a lot how scammers want to destroy the anonymous nature and trust crypto has already built by creating scam projects. So many people have fallen prey to scam projects but it wouldn't stop the innovation of bitcoin


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: coupable on March 15, 2022, 06:34:02 PM
We now live in a society where no one trust each other for a reliable business any longer. A world where greed and selfishness is eating up the world at large, a world where every one thinks about only themselves and what the stand to gain in every process they engage in not minding if others had a stake.
This has been applied since forever Bro. Greed and selfishness were always here to motivate people finding easiest ways for more profits.
I guess everybody can conclude this.

I have come to full appreciate the innovation of Bitcoin and Blockchain that has opened the door to decentralization. A peer-2-peer network system where everyone is protecting their interest through a consensus mechanism. If it must work we all must make it work kind of mindset. A system where everyone needs each other to keep the vision growing.
Scammers are everywhere online, and cryptocurrency fields are no different. In a decentralized system, it seems at first glance that no fraud or hack can occur. But experience has taught us that vulnerabilities exist in every system and that scams are a common occurrence. Especially if users are unable to save their private keys and not share them with anyone.

Now there will be no need for fear of greed or self centered motives because for the system to  get altered every one must come in agreement like wise the same concept if the vision must continue working. No one has autonomy of the system, no central authority no regulatory agency. Satoshi really saw the future of mankind and taught of this innovation
Regulations still can be considered as the first obstacle for large adoption of this great technology. Govs still have the power to ban/restrict/punish every use of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general despite it's obvious how it can help solving many issues. See the example of Ukraine who is supported by the entire world using cryptocurrencies while its actual condition dosn't allow people to have access to the traditional monetary system .


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: dbc23 on March 16, 2022, 07:29:58 AM
With decentralization which means giving up legal guarantees to get involved in problems, it actually opens up more opportunities for people to cheat and be deceived. Therefore, in a decentralized financial system it is more popular to use the word "don't trust, verify". A trustworthy person will first suggest research and explain the risks rather than shouting "trust me" and "it's profitable".
To think of it even in a centralized system cheating is inevitable and the disgusting thing about the cheating in a centralized system is that it is only for those at the center of affairs that tend to benefit from this process leaving the average man restricted to the law. In many nations the law is not for the rich so to play on a completely safe ground decentralization should be the leading factor


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: Lordhermes on March 17, 2022, 11:28:39 PM
Trusting people in this world is a sin.If you've never been hurt by trust before,you won't understand the meaning of the topic,it's only those whom have been hurt by trust that can know exactly what this mean.The only person you can ever trust is yourself and leave other person's alone,else your trust will be betrayed,and you'll end up being heart-broken.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: Kelvinid on March 17, 2022, 11:45:08 PM
Trust is really hard to give especially if you have experienced getting scammed by someone that you have been trusted before. This will develop your mindset to be more clever and defend our assets at all costs.

And the good thing about crypto is we can protect ourselves from these scammers. After learning from my bad experience, it was very important to use legit exchanges upon doing buying/selling transactions, unlike what I did before with just a normal transaction but it ends scamming.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: Shamm on March 18, 2022, 09:19:23 PM
We now live in a society where no one trust each other for a reliable business any longer. A world where greed and selfishness is eating up the world at large, a world where every one thinks about only themselves and what the stand to gain in every process they engage in not minding if others had a stake.

I have come to fully appreciate the innovation of Bitcoin and Blockchain that has opened the door to decentralization. A peer-2-peer network system where everyone is protecting their interest through a consensus mechanism. If it must work we all must make it work kind of mindset. A system where everyone needs each other to keep the vision growing.

Now there will be no need for fear of greed or self centered motives because for the system to  get altered every one must come in agreement like wise the same concept if the vision must continue working. No one has autonomy of the system, no central authority no regulatory agency. Satoshi really saw the future of mankind and taught of this innovation

#Thanks to Satoshi

Nowadays trust must be given to those worthy people surround us cause in these time where ever you go you need to be careful cause scammers is on your back. Do not give your trust easily the sites or any new project don't be greedy cause all things you've want to do if you are greedy then you will fail. Patience is virtue.
Greed are own decisions of a human, but  nowadays because of the crisis many people will released  their greed in order to earn a profit.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: Cookdata on March 18, 2022, 11:27:07 PM
Trust is a big thing that once it's broken, they becomes hard to replace or arrange back to how they are but bitcoin has solved this for everyone. Unlike the banks that have failed us multiple occasions, you have to deal with their incompetent and sorry for the downtime.
Thanks to Satoshi for I now have more believe in bitcoin than banks that my parents trust their savings and pension funds with, I can tip anyone I want and I don't need to wait for "interbank transfer is currently in maintenance" and lastly thanks to him for making a forum like this, the knowledge I have gathered from this forum.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: Darker45 on March 19, 2022, 01:35:14 AM
In a different sense, however, the advent of Bitcoin didn't actually remove the necessity to trust. As a matter of fact, most Bitcoin purchases are probably done in centralized exchanges using either banks or centralized payment networks. Those who bought outside centralized exchanges are oftentimes left with no other choice but to trust the other party. In other cases, the escrow.

Many times, purchased Bitcoin are often stored in custodial wallets. That would once again require trust. And when Bitcoin is spent, trust is again given to third party Bitcoin payment service providers.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: Bamjos on April 10, 2022, 07:58:05 PM
It's a great innovation humanity has experienced, and I believe people will agree with that. Everyone on this train has the same right and authority and as you've mentioned, the system can't fold up without the consent/agreement of all the users.

But greed can't be eradicated, in fact it's still present in cryptocurrency and other for of trading as well as some other cryptocurrency transactions, we are human, and our nature can't be done away with.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: KingsDen on April 10, 2022, 09:05:11 PM
Bitcoin is built on trustless protocol. Some of it's trust defects fixed by original Satoshi escrow and the escrow we use now.
Then, no matter how untrustworthy humanity is, there still exist some kind of trust.
In this forum, there is a trust system which guides or predict how likely it is for a user to scam someone.  Bitcoin has introduced us to the world where everyone regulates everything and no one regulates everything and that is why the government is in battle with bitcoin.
Speaking about trust, I have have trusted some unknown people on p2p network, such that I don't need exchanges escrow to do business with them anymore. Amidst the technology, there are still trustworthy people.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: Yamifoud on April 10, 2022, 10:33:45 PM
Well, the truth OP is that people hardly give trust each other because of many scam scenarios happening around and this even pushes us all not to easily trust someone.
P2P transactions, the use of an exchange, and even the people you've talked to online can also be questioned. I'm not going to say that TRUST totally fails but if we still see this scam issue continues, many years from now, everyone has probably been asked to do the KYC as a sort of safety precaution that we are dealing with the right and trusted person.



Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: Finestream on April 11, 2022, 11:42:27 PM
Trust is really hard to give especially if you have experienced getting scammed by someone that you have been trusted before. This will develop your mindset to be more clever and defend our assets at all costs.

And the good thing about crypto is we can protect ourselves from these scammers. After learning from my bad experience, it was very important to use legit exchanges upon doing buying/selling transactions, unlike what I did before with just a normal transaction but it ends scamming.
Trading is the hardest thing to develop and it will only be built through the test of time. And especially if you have been a victim of trust issues, i guess its really hard to trust again. However, the advantage of crypto is that it gives a high level of security when it comes to our investments. As long as you always manage to do transactions in legit exchanges, scamming will never be a big deal.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: hatshepsut93 on April 11, 2022, 11:58:29 PM
Now there will be no need for fear of greed or self centered motives because for the system to  get altered every one must come in agreement like wise the same concept if the vision must continue working. No one has autonomy of the system, no central authority no regulatory agency. Satoshi really saw the future of mankind and taught of this innovation

You misunderstand a few things. First, Bitcoin protocol is not about trusting a community, it's the opposite - actively distrusting everyone and verifying all information yourself. Second, consensus in Bitcoin means using the same rules as other nodes. No one can stop users from adopting different rules, but this would cause a split and existence of separate networks, but without replay protection it gets messy. And third, Bitcoin's paradigm can't be translated into other fields. The broader attempts to implement blockchain are generally a failure. So no, Bitcoin didn't change society by showing people how to cooperate.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: Markinzo on April 12, 2022, 10:39:52 AM
Trust is like giving someone that power to hurt you but with a strong believe that they won't hurt you.
That's why it hurts when they do.

I believe not all the p2p has worked out very when despite the decentralization. This as a result has imoeded the supposed wide embrace that cryptocurrency supposed to have achieved by now.

But be it as it may, the decentralization in the system has done much good than harm.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: Hypnosis00 on April 12, 2022, 11:20:43 PM
Trust is like giving someone that power to hurt you but with a strong believe that they won't hurt you.
That's why it hurts when they do.

I believe not all the p2p has worked out very when despite the decentralization. This as a result has imoeded the supposed wide embrace that cryptocurrency supposed to have achieved by now.

But be it as it may, the decentralization in the system has done much good than harm.
TRUST may cause delays as for the mindset of the majority thinks that Bitcoin is a scam, many people got scammed.
Sooner or later, the market will become centralized and exchanges will be found asking for KYC verification just to avoid scammers. In this way, people will think they are safe.
For now, it was sentiment for many and was hard to trust because of many scamming issues. However, this will never stop Bitcoin from growing and also the adoption. Besides, it wasn't the purpose of having this innovation for all to adapt, this still be an option and everyone is free to choose.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: Proro on April 13, 2022, 06:28:10 AM
Trust is a very expressive commodity to give out. Before one give trust, there should have been a track record of dealings that have been carried out and we're successful.

In as much you deal on your Bitcoin personal does not prevent hacker and scammers, from defrauding you. Before you trust someone know the person overtime.


Title: Re: In a world where trust fails
Post by: firmino10 on April 26, 2022, 09:31:39 AM
trust is a costly commodity in the world of business and investment. what should accompany trust is verification, constancy and research. the p2p exchange has help to cob some fraudulent act to some extent. because you decide the method you want to use but there is risk in it. so you verify. know your forms of exchange, be it the centralized exchange or decentralized exchange(CEX,DEX). most are of the opinion that the dex is preferable against those that have allow greed to break trust.