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Title: Future of ETH mining
Post by: StormHawk on March 15, 2022, 08:41:32 AM
I think mining has more profitable days ahead but it all depends on ETH 2.0 being delayed. My bet is it will be postponed, the truth is I'm excited and scared at the same time, I hope GPU mining will still live for many years to come I just can't digest the fact that ETH mining might be no more.


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: sp_ on March 15, 2022, 11:07:24 AM
Postponed to 2023. That's what I heard.


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: FP91G on March 16, 2022, 01:05:26 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=428589.25760
A very important event will be how the testnet works. Like all miners, I want to mine ethereum for as long as possible. In any news channel about mining, news about ETH is published first.



Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: DevFile90 on March 16, 2022, 03:14:10 PM
Postponed to 2023. That's what I heard.
For real   :o? Any proof to support this point? This is why I'm not buying some gtx 1660 super from China at 410$ today, I just needed four pieces but the ETH 2.0 is making me slow down, I already changed my mind but this?.


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: Salamande on March 16, 2022, 04:05:32 PM
Postponed to 2023. That's what I heard.
For real   :o? Any proof to support this point? This is why I'm not buying some gtx 1660 super from China at 410$ today, I just needed four pieces but the ETH 2.0 is making me slow down, I already changed my mind but this?.

No point in buying 6gb graphic card now, even if ETH mining stayuntill 2023 , a 6GB card won't be able to mine ETH long enough to ROI by that time.


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: swogerino on March 16, 2022, 09:39:54 PM
Postponed to 2023. That's what I heard.
For real   :o? Any proof to support this point? This is why I'm not buying some gtx 1660 super from China at 410$ today, I just needed four pieces but the ETH 2.0 is making me slow down, I already changed my mind but this?.

No point in buying 6gb graphic card now, even if ETH mining stayuntill 2023 , a 6GB card won't be able to mine ETH long enough to ROI by that time.

Maybe but I don't see their price to go down in trend,sure there have been some price improvements in all the GPU market right now but I am not seeing any specific 6 GB cards going down a bit more than others now that the Ethereum may switch to PoS in 2023.That is because probably the 6 GB cards can still mine for a long time ETC,RVN and ERGO which are the next best coins to mine after Ethereum cannot be mined again.

However I think that once Ethereum stops PoW in favor of PoS things will change a LOT in the mining world.


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: CryptoATM on March 17, 2022, 08:56:15 AM
Postponed to 2023. That's what I heard.
For real   :o? Any proof to support this point? This is why I'm not buying some gtx 1660 super from China at 410$ today, I just needed four pieces but the ETH 2.0 is making me slow down, I already changed my mind but this?.

No point in buying 6gb graphic card now, even if ETH mining stayuntill 2023 , a 6GB card won't be able to mine ETH long enough to ROI by that time.
Yet some are still using 4GB rx580 to mine Ergo and raven coin even ETC, 6GB DAG will take years probably by 2025, the gtx1660 is also good for conflux and FLUX coin, these cards will always be here as long as PoW algorithm is still alive.


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: sp_ on March 17, 2022, 09:20:22 AM
76% of the mining in the world is in Ethereum according to the hiveos statistics. If Ethereum was moving over to POS overnight, miners will need to move over to the smaller coins and crush the profitabillity. A profit decline of at least 3/4 overnight, but probobly more like 7/8

100MHASH ethash 03-17-2022= around $ 3.30 a day

after ETH goes POS

100MHASH ethash = around $ 0.41 a day


https://hiveon.com/statistics/

https://i.ibb.co/Xy8pYjr/coins.png



Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: FP91G on March 17, 2022, 09:46:03 AM
76% of the mining in the world is in Ethereum according to the hiveos statistics. If Ethereum was moving over to POS overnight, miners will need to move over to the smaller coins and crush the profitabillity. A profit decline of at least 3/4 overnight, but probobly more like 7/8

If all miners switch to other coins, then only miners with free electricity will profit. The rest of the miners' electricity bills will exceed the profit. Have you heard anything about a new coin that will replace Ethereum?


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: sp_ on March 17, 2022, 09:55:02 AM
Ethereum is generating around $1.02 Billion worth every month in mining revenue. Out of the $12 billion yearly profit we can estimate that the miners have invested 2-3 times that amount in equipment alone.

36 BUSD - 48 BUSD of investments from companies and individuals will be removed from supporting Ethereum, and move to other coins..


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: S3300 on March 17, 2022, 06:38:10 PM
Ethereum is generating around $1.02 Billion worth every month in mining revenue. Out of the $12 billion yearly profit we can estimate that the miners have invested 2-3 times that amount in equipment alone.

36 BUSD - 48 BUSD of investments from companies and individuals will be removed from supporting Ethereum, and move to other coins.
This is why I think that ETH PoS is never going to happen, this will do big damage to ETH rep because it's clear that ETH became a favourite because of it's PoW algorithm, I don't know what buterin is thinking 💭 .


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: BioFrog on March 18, 2022, 09:48:41 AM
I believe that unfortunately the mining of eth will end within the year given the recent tests carried out successfully, however there will always be other valid alternatives in mining even if less profitable such as raven and ergo


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: GEMIN_M4 on March 18, 2022, 10:11:19 AM
76% of the mining in the world is in Ethereum according to the hiveos statistics. If Ethereum was moving over to POS overnight, miners will need to move over to the smaller coins and crush the profitabillity. A profit decline of at least 3/4 overnight, but probobly more like 7/8

If all miners switch to other coins, then only miners with free electricity will profit. The rest of the miners' electricity bills will exceed the profit. Have you heard anything about a new coin that will replace Ethereum?
At this point in time I expect 80% of miners to get out of mining since it's no more profitable but I won't do that, I will use my gpus to get some coins for long term and hold, will be a big advantage if difficulty greatly reduce.


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: Salamande on March 18, 2022, 12:01:23 PM
Back in 2017 it was the same scenario. ETH was supposed too go POS in less than a year too. There was lot of post like this one about what mining will be after that and ... here we go again 5 years later.

Maybe this time it will be true, who knows?

Roughly guess, but I discovered a  new fresh coin (not a shitclone copy paste, NEW code) that could be the next good coin to mine and it is Bamboo. Not 100% ready for now (miner doesn't do multi gpus yet, still not on an exchange) but dev is really active. So if ETH mining is gone in the next year, this could be a good mining canditate.

Well see ....


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: FP91G on March 18, 2022, 01:48:18 PM
76% of the mining in the world is in Ethereum according to the hiveos statistics. If Ethereum was moving over to POS overnight, miners will need to move over to the smaller coins and crush the profitabillity. A profit decline of at least 3/4 overnight, but probobly more like 7/8

If all miners switch to other coins, then only miners with free electricity will profit. The rest of the miners' electricity bills will exceed the profit. Have you heard anything about a new coin that will replace Ethereum?
At this point in time I expect 80% of miners to get out of mining since it's no more profitable but I won't do that, I will use my gpus to get some coins for long term and hold, will be a big advantage if difficulty greatly reduce.
It depends on the cost of electricity, because in some cases it is more profitable not to mine, but to buy coins with money to pay for electricity. But the event will be very interesting, because now there are a lot of video cards in mining.


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: FirmWars on March 18, 2022, 07:51:36 PM
Unfortunately people now understand that mining are more profitable long term in bear market I doubt many miners will be a hut down even if coins aren't profitable to mine anymore.


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: philipma1957 on March 19, 2022, 03:16:06 AM
ETH may continue well past this summer and into next year, or not.

I don't really know.  I do know a lot of people want mining to continue. AMD + Nvidia for sure. ;) ;)


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: swogerino on March 20, 2022, 11:53:11 AM
ETH may continue well past this summer and into next year, or not.

I don't really know.  I do know a lot of people want mining to continue. AMD + Nvidia for sure. ;) ;)

Nvidia looks like it wants less than AMD to continue since they are the ones who brought up this nasty LHR thing and not AMD.Although in the upcoming series from both providers I know for sure AMD will not have any limitation in place while I have a lot of doubts regarding Nvidia.

I also want to continue mining for sure,now I see that mining ETC with the same hash rate gives me 2.5 USD less per day now that the price of ETC has gone up than mining ETH so as far as I know ETC developers promised to never go PoS anytime soon.Mining will continue,I personally will mine even at a loss and keep the coins if I have the possibility to pay the electricity bills because I believe there is only room for upside potential for crypto in the near and not near future.


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: FP91G on March 20, 2022, 12:00:13 PM
It's time to start voting on the end of ethereum mining.
https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/ethereum-20-merge-imminent-after-successful-test-will-lay-rest-energy-concerns


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: JangoUnchained on March 20, 2022, 04:13:23 PM
I'm starting to get discount offers from GPU purchase agreement of 10-20 pieces but I don't have enough confidence to proceed because if PoS algorithm happens it will affects everything (PoW).


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: Coinfarm ventures on March 20, 2022, 09:14:39 PM
I'm starting to get discount offers from GPU purchase agreement of 10-20 pieces but I don't have enough confidence to proceed because if PoS algorithm happens it will affects everything (PoW).
Just wait until July or August, when RTX 3080's will cost $400 a piece on feeBay, with miners offering 10-20 of them for $350 each. I too thought it was time to buy after RTX 3060's were $530 on Newegg. But this week, Newegg started selling them for $500, and news broke that PoS advanced to the next stage. So I'll return my order after mining for 2 weeks, then hopefully buy them back for < $250 this summer.


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: sp_ on March 20, 2022, 09:18:18 PM
Ethereum classic will continue POW, and the price has risen +50% in the last week.

https://www.benzinga.com/markets/cryptocurrency/22/03/26213006/ethereum-classic-soars-on-reaction-to-key-pattern-miners-gain-interest-is-a-golden-cross-o



Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: StormHawk on April 04, 2022, 04:28:34 AM
Postponed to 2023. That's what I heard.
Where did you them this news from can you drop me a link? Since the merge test net is completed I don't see any reason for more delays unless a new bug or problem is detected again.


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: sp_ on April 11, 2022, 06:50:49 PM
Where did you them this news from can you drop me a link? Since the merge test net is completed I don't see any reason for more delays unless a new bug or problem is detected again.

The merge testnet had problems with 25% of the nodes. A success because more than 50% of the nodes worked, but not good enough to go live.

Another stresstest yesterday had some more issues..

Quote
Once today's shadow fork went live, the developer team noticed some issues with Ethereum-based software systems provider Nethermind and Hyperledger Besu, a Java-based open-source Ethereum client, Jayanthi tweeted on Monday.

https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2022/04/11/ethereums-first-mainnet-shadow-fork-goes-live-as-move-to-pos-continues/


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: philipma1957 on April 12, 2022, 02:18:48 AM
Where did you them this news from can you drop me a link? Since the merge test net is completed I don't see any reason for more delays unless a new bug or problem is detected again.

The merge testnet had problems with 25% of the nodes. A success because more than 50% of the nodes worked, but not good enough to go live.

Another stresstest yesterday had some more issues..

Quote
Once today's shadow fork went live, the developer team noticed some issues with Ethereum-based software systems provider Nethermind and Hyperledger Besu, a Java-based open-source Ethereum client, Jayanthi tweeted on Monday.

https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2022/04/11/ethereums-first-mainnet-shadow-fork-goes-live-as-move-to-pos-continues/

So this leave the door open to stick with pow. It appears that it is shadow and backend work being done. Code is not that transparent. So who is to say that it works or does not work if you can't view it working or not working.

A percent of stake nodes dropped out. But not that many.  And the public can't see results of testing live.

Or I read too much into the article. I would love to see real time testing much like I can see realtime  btc blockchain.

Wow it could mean a few things are coming up very soon.

1) smooth switchover
2) bumpy switchover.
3) postponed switchover.
4) a disastrous switch over with huge amount of coins stolen/lost due to a glitch.

KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN AND READY FOR ACTION PEOPLE.


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: adaseb on April 12, 2022, 02:40:39 AM
Because Ethereum has gotten just way too complex and there are bugs everywhere pretty much. Not surprised they run into issues with that. Look at all these smart contracts that keep getting hacked and drained every few weeks pretty much.

It’s because they are very complex, have tons of bugs and most are undiscovered yet and basically it’s risky keeping large amounts of your money in them. There is a dev call I think in a couple of days and they will provide more info about the merge launch date and such.


Title: Re: Future of ETH mining
Post by: VRExpress on April 12, 2022, 06:03:13 AM
Vitalik should just accept things the way it is, ETH can forever be a PoW coin and still do lots of great things, leave the gas fee thing for other small projects ETH cant be perfect 👌, if people want PoS just create a farming APY shit aside for ETH only.