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I see one prominent crypto trader analyst Michaël van de Poppe saying this on his Twitter

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He is really a bullish person but I'd never think this gonna happens in real life. $350k-$450k is not realistic for me but he stands it comes possibly as he relies on History repeats itself scenario.

Should we have to believe this?

If history will repeat itself, we should expect more bear market this year. Until 2024, there will be bull run and bear market in a way ATH may not be attained and it can be more of the bears than bulls which would likely be the outcome.

About $350000 to $450000 this year, you should know this is not well analysed. I am not saying the price of bitcoin can not get to that price but it will only be possible probably 3 to 10 years from now and halving will have effect also people have known the time is for buy.

We should first talk about bitcoin getting to six digits ($100000) first rather than that price range.

Well that Tweet was on last year I am right?
The most awaited moment is the bull market and when it will happen, I don't think the repeat itself will happen, it supposedly this time is a bearish trend but it did not happen. Bullrun could be possible and if there is another ATH that you mean, that is impossible because we are at the time of corrections, perhaps when there is next halving come I believe that bitcoin will reach a new ATH and that is the time we will have a bullrun.
For now, let us see if there is really repeat itself, we should always ready for the possible that will happen.

No we don't have to believe this very bullish prediction. There have been predictions made in the past coming from prominent crypto traders that failed. Even if they are popular traders or crypto price analysts, it does not mean they couldn't be wrong in their takes. And I think that history is generally not a good basis because the price level of Bitcoin these days is already much higher than it was in the past. Of course I'm not saying that $350,000 is not possible. It is but it will take more than just months to happen. It will not happen in 2022.

This post was from Dec 2021. And I remember everyday seeing posts predicting that Bitcoin will go to $100K or $150K or $250K or $500K or even a million. Basically did it’s job to convince all the retail holders of Bitcoin that selling at $69K was too cheap and it was the top of 2021.

Now everybody would love to sell their Bitcoin in the $60K area. Whether he is right or wrong is hard to say. Too many political and economic reasons that it can go both ways.

If a world war starts …. Will it be bullish?
If inflation doesn’t get under control… will it be bullish?
What if the fed Hikes rates like crazy? Next month hiking 50bps?

There are so many things going on right now it’s hard to say.

Let them believe in exaggerating part in which I know wont come to happen , for my years here in crypto I have never seen a Bullrun goes in 2 consecutive years that the price mate it ATH here and there .

So if OP wanted to buy that Idea then let Him be but never trust something that you will Hurt your investing , Buy coins that you only capable of Holding long term and can risk the money that afford to lose.

$350k-$450k is actually very realistic, it's just a matter of 'when'.

Definitely not sure if I would listen to that guy though, especially knowing that his thesis is pretty much just "history repeating itself", and that's pretty much it. Seems like your typical social media influencer that's just looking for attention.

Pretty old tweet, It wasn't really out of place back then I think so I don't think it should even be used as a basis. Not to mention that if we really are repeating history, then shouldn't it be a rather steady movement instead? 2 years after 2016 halving the graph was pretty flat. Pretty sure we've had enough of that bullish sentiment (which I also believed tbf). Plus, the increment of increase of Bitcoin is slowly getting lower and lower with each peak, unlike back then. I wouldn't expect us to reach $300-400k levels, this or next year. $100k isn't completely out of the reach though.

I would expect a bull market in the mid-year to end of the year but not really $300K, seem very extreme but I would like to see that happen this year. It recently dip down to $33K months ago and it had gone up to more than $40K too. I think that's enough to see bulls are brewing the market.

The geopolitics around the world is however not shedding a bright light on where the market will go. So this hangs within the range until something happens. If the conflict escaltes, markets fall including the crypto market thus bear wins it.

To be honest this person looks more like a shitcoin bag holder who is advertising the garbage he has placed in his bags and wishes them to rise up. It is a common thing on social media too, they look like "prominent traders" but they are just pump and dumpers who are making money if people follow their fake advice.

In any case, he is such a newbie that he doesn't even realize that his suggestion means you must not invest your money in any of the shitcoins he listed. Look at the rises and you will see it too. He was predicting on April 26 that bitcoin will rise up at least 700% while shitcoins like ethereum would rise up less than 300%. Who would in their right mind choose anything other than bitcoin? :D

I am very certain that Bitcoin will actually break that 450k even a Million dollar because this coin will climb high and high as time goes by.

but talking about this to happen this year specifically in Last quarter? where did he get that idea? is there any chances that we know nothing about what he Knew? because it looks like He is just shilling for something to favor His investments.

Same thought here mate , because this year seems to be Bearish and will not getting any higher on that level.

Nah, just another one of those who seems to be a perma-bull on bitcoin, nothing against him, but obviously, the bull run is over, we have touch a new all time high already in November.

So it's better just to put conservative numbers today, no exaggeration, just pure numbers that is enough for the current situation. Although we wouldn't want the price to hit 6 digits and more this year? But for me, it's not going to happen base on bitcoin's history.

10 years, 50 years from now, not even sure.

It is just to happen now that social media become a medium used by these crypto influencers to encourage noobs to invest in wrong advice. And I don't think that calling himself a "prominent trader" is a ticket that everyone who reads his tweet or anything he talks about crypto will ever be going to believe.
perhaps, he mentions Elrond, DIA, and Zilliqa coins which are not familiar. He is really trying to promote these coins.

Well, what he wrote is on the level of a slightly more intelligent child in primary school after someone would explain to him how the crypto market works. Every year you just write as many tweets as you can and one day you might be able to say "I was right", maybe at least in part.

I wonder if there is any speculation for 2024, or Popay thinks it will no longer play any role? Maybe it’s time for a new can of spinach ::)

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I'd go for "1 to 50 years", actually.  ;)


People are preaching a new altcoin season, so all the altcoin bag holders rejoice. Of course, they don't realize that not all their shitcoins will become profitable (if any!)

It's nice to hear and better if it happens but it's hard to believe.
History repeating itself might not even happen with all the world economy problem, the war and the Covid pandemic, add the new variant.
All of those being summarized is a big hit to the wallet of an individual.
The rich will also doubt to spend more preparing for the worse that could happen. There's one thing that makes me optimistic for a sudden pump, it's when they try to secure their money in cryptocurrency. But that is just one which makes it slimmer to happen.

I am a perma-bull on bitcoin as well and yet even I do not make these type of claims. Nobody could really know what could happen with bitcoin, some may act as if they know, but in reality none of us know about it.

There are tens of millions of investors to crypto, and there are hundreds of billions of dollars involved, one person cannot make a big change (well Elon challenged that for a while) and that is why I doubt it could ever make sense for one person to act like they know what will happen. I do hope that we break ATH this year, but I "hope" for it to happen, I do not know if it will happen, I wish, I dream, I hope, I want it to, but none of these are "know", just my preference.

Yeah, he could be one of those guys, so again, take everything with a grain of salt. If his predictions came true, then he can claim that he see it many years ago, he will have that bragging right. Nevertheless, it's just a coincidence that his prediction where right.


Shitcoin will be shitcoin, "wise" investors will continue their pump and dump scheme until they dried up and milk everyone and then goes to the next shitcoin. But not bitcoin though, manipulating it is getting harder as there are a lot of players and whales.

By just being realistic then you would not really reach out these numbers and if you do really make out some analysis and some common sense on how this market moves after all the years then you

would really be seeing these numbers to be some sort of a dream for a short time period but we know that it is really capable or does have potential but lets not anticipate nor expect that much

because no one really knows on where we would be heading out thats why its better to be wise if you are making some investment on when to get in and when to get out.

I wouldn't trust some dude on Twitter, especially if he's talking about a bull market. For one thing, it just recently ended, so why should it happen again after only six months? Secondly, there's a lot of shit going on in the world right now, so any market could be bloody for a long time. As has been said here, it is more likely to see a new bull run after 2024.

According to the image he gave himself until 2023 for bitcoin to be able to reach that price, but even then I think it is going to be difficult, bitcoin is having problems staying above the 40k level and we have yet to break through the 100k level which is going to be a huge psychological barrier, so while I think we will eventually see those prices I am not so sure they are going to appear so soon, especially when the economy is in such a bad shape and this seems this is going to keep being the case for a long time.

Why does this crappy Twitter analysis deserve any attention? It makes no sense, if you try to extrapolate the old data, you must understand that there are long periods of bear markets and stagnation. The bull run was 1 year ago, so based on this you could predict that the bear market will last for another 1-2 years.

There's a lot of theories that the past patterns have been broken, but this tweet doesn't try to construct any such theory.

Yes, definitely not realistic. It's not even possible to say if this bear season is going to end soon. There is a good chance we are going to enter 2023 without bitcoin recovering yet. Furthermore, bitcoin has a long path until it can finally reach 350,000$ or 450,000$.

Last ATH hit close to 70,000$ and it was pretty hard, so as we can it's a hardcore mission to reach the price predicted by the trader. Billion of dollars must be invested in btc, so we can see that happening for real. And that is something we don't see happening on short run.

Isn't obvious that he is really Bullish ? imagine speculating Bitcoin to reach 350-450 in 1-2 years span? without considering the Halving to happen in 2024-25?

I love people being bullish about Bitcoin but not to the extend that they are exaggerating the concept of giving bullish prediction , and besides what is the basis of this scenario?  just because of repeating the history? then if does then we wont even need to reach the 100k?  ;D
Influencers ? do you really believe in those clowns? specially those social media influencer? lol they cannot lore new investors instead Haters is what they can find.

I don't say I believe in this, but we got nothing to lose if we somehow believe into this anyway, as long as you're holding regardless If you at $50k and wait for this figure to come.

However, bullish run may not be experienced again this year as we all know how Bitcoin reacts after the long bullish season. We might be experiencing long bear trends before we see a significant rise again. But it's not gonna be something to worry about because for real investors, the sharp dips are an opportunity for a long term profit.

I'm even bullish that it could go as high as $500k to $1M.  ;D
Well, just like what others have said of every price is possible but we don't know when it's going to happen. I think everyone has that understanding that when bitcoin halving comes, the price really shoots and skyrockets for which gives us the idea on how much it can go. Maybe it won't happen by this year or by next year but maybe after the next halving.

Good to have your own prediction since it could make you believe that there will be more great things to happen on bitcoin but you shouldn't live on your fantasy since in reality its hard to achieve that figures. Its good to take action on how the market act so that you can get a better result in future.

So in April he says peak is 2022/23 and then in December he brings back his peak to Q4 2022? This is like every other trader extending or drawing back her/his predictions whenever a quarter ends. That's also like me with my real life deadlines and chores haha.

Either prediction stretches the bull run into 2 years. Not saying it won't happen, happy if it does. Supercycle I consider no longer, but his scenario would put a heavy lens on if we ever get another winter cycle either.

Yup, this is just a prediction/analysis from someone with the capacity he has, but to reach that price he doesn't give a realistic reason.

In fact, Bitcoin experienced a bullrun when the halving event occurred, and we don't know for sure how high the latest bitcoin ATH price will be. Many experts predict every movement of BTC after the halving, in fact many are not right.

I'm also bullish on BTC, but to hit $350K - $450K after the next halving alone doesn't mean BTC will reach this price. There are so many political factors and so on that can later affect the price of the next BTC bullrun.

1.I don't know this guy.Is he some kind of a crypto authority or a trading guru?
2.He says that there's going to be a bull run,but he doesn't explain what will cause the bull run.
Does he have a crystal ball or something? ;D This is just pure speculation and nothing else.
Saying that altcoins will begin the bull run and Bitcoin will follow is just delusional.Bitcoin is always the core of every bull market in the history of the cryptocurrency world.Altcoin prices are simply following the BTC price.
Predicting a Bitcoin price of 350-400K in 2023 is delusional as well.I think that 100K would be the absolute peak.

If the scenario goes as he said, it means the Altcoin season will start soon, but we don't know if that's true or not because no one knows when the crypto market will get a bull market again. But it's like giving hope for people to be more patient and buy coins that are predicted to go up high.

But the $350,000 figure for bitcoin seems too high for this year. Maybe the bitcoin price is still in the range between $100,000-$250,000 or even below $100,000, and in the next year, the bitcoin price will start to rally towards $100,000-$250,000. Whatever happens, prepare your coins and don't be careless because it could mean you will lose profits if you sell late.

The prediction is somehow impossible and has sense. One of the best predictions is using history, like previous prices of the Bitcoin where it could repeat possible in different times or different phases.

Another bull run is always expected especially after a long bear run or crypto winter where we always experience sideways.

I think there's no need to believe anything and it's always better to keep DYOR under any circumstances :))
Everything seems to be the perfect value levels for someone to ask for stimulation or more confidence.  Lol actually a big bull run is likely but not in the short term given the market conditions this year its better to consolidate the portfolio and secure the growth plan  In the long term, the market is always reactive and represents a hedge against inflation in the coming, and until the 4-year cycle produces a new miracle, it is necessary to be strong to hold

Dont anticipate much because you would really be ending up on frustration if the thing you are expecting to happen would not happen that fast and basing on real experience
then this is something that really on random and we dont even know on how demand and recognition would be playing out for this year alone and on the next one.
Thats why it would really be good to be wise on making out that step for you to utilize up these movements and dont expect or anticipate much on bigger numbers
because this would really be a bumpy ride.

Long bull run always happen after the halving so maybe we ca expect that it will also happen on futute halving, but for now its hard to speculate something which have no basis and it seems that we are going on long stability or maybe we can get a little by little pump then correction schemes as normally happen if bitcoin doesn't have any news to hype it up.

Following crypto influencers can be deceptive. Is the bear so far strong enough to push for a new bull?. Bull run don't just happen if we are still expecting a bull run this year then it will require even more dip. It's only When the bear gets exhausted before the bull can take over for now there is still a struggle between both which results in a range giving no clear direction at the moment

The first answer to answer the OP's question is, we really don't know and we're not sure. Of course he has his reasons why he is brave enough to predict such a price, but I don't think I would fully trust influencers. They could say anything, they could predict it but also didn't have a crystal ball in hand to confirm it.

So far I'm sure the 2022/23 bullrun won't happen in my opinion given the similarity of the charts to past history. We will have another 1-2 years for a decline, but if it happens the other way around then back to the original fact that bitcoin is really unpredictable with certainty. It might be good to see a bullrun, but $69K is still pretty tough to hit after we've been on the downside since then.

believe it or not, in 2011 to 2015, only a few people believed Bitcoin will go to $50k...

the majority were pessimistic about Bitcoin reaching that price but in fact, Bitcoin broke through $60k! so nothing is impossible with the price of Bitcoin, I am actually very confident in the prediction of the price of Bitcoin that he provides.

The situation now is different, Bitcoin proves to be the best cryptocurrency and the price trend right now is unpredictable which makes the whole scenario possible. Bull market should start this year because we are done with the bear market, and the issue of war are slowly getting into a peaceful talk so once they successfully stop the war, that is the best time for Bitcoin to climb higher. New ATH this year are still possible, looking at the price right now once we break the resistance in $43k, expect the price to go for $50k in the next quarter.

As much as I want to believe that this analysis is true but the question is how realistic is this? If you are going to look at the chart you will see that the line for the next bull run will be in the next halving cycle and what we get this year and in another year is just the bear market. Although, it doesn't quite fit as a bear though but this might lead to bear run soon. Try to draw a line from two years ago up until now and you will see and I think if another FUD would come out maybe that would be the start.

If we look at the history of Bitcoin movement, usually a long bull run occurs after the halving occurs. So I'm a little doubtful if this year there
will be another bullrun, especially after seeing a very high increase in 2021, then it makes more sense this year Bitcoin will experience a bearish
trend. Then looking at the stable price of Bitcoin at $40k, like you said Bitcoin is likely to be on a long term stability. So the possibility of going up
will not be too high, there is not much we can do other than to be patient when deciding to invest in Bitcoin. After all, this year there are more
FUDs circulating than good news. So the possibility is very small if we expect a bullrun to occur this year.

Do you mean repeat itself?
Possible, but I think there's no bullrun, it's supposedly a bear market if you think it repeats itself.
But who truly knows if Bitcoin will create a bull trend this year the same as we didn't expect last year that we have experienced twice reaching a new ATH.
Be ready always, whatever happens, just hold if you didn't see yet a profit, just aim for a profit that you've to wish to have or if you didn't money don't sell you Bitcoin, that's is very simple as that.

IMO, I don't believe in repeating itself on the price of Bitcoin, we have different events and news that can have an effect on the Bitcoin price.

It is interesting how two persons using the same Bitcoin chart came up with two different analyses. But this has always been how things work with charting and technical analysis. You both look at the same chart but see different possibilities. Michael van de Poppe is seeing possibilities based on Bitcoins price history while you, who are also trying to analyze based on Bitcoin price's two-year history, obviously disagreed with his analysis.

On my part, I disagree with Michael's analysis. I also disagree with yours. I don't think this year and the year to follow will be bearish. $50,000 will arrive soon.

I like optimistic people, and bullish people. however, I also feel that $350k to $450k is not a realistic number. in fact, I feel that for 2023, when the bitcoin price could hit $100k or more, that would be a very good move. anyway, it's not wrong if he's optimistic like that, anyway, he's free to speculate, but we don't have to believe that, but maybe we can hope.

Personally, I don't have high hopes for this. however, I try to prepare my assets when this moment comes. What I mean is, it's time for us to re-assemble the assets of our choice, especially in the top 3 crypto coins, namely bitcoin, ethereum, and binance coins. if a bull market occurs, the price of the three coins will have a high price, and if the belief is correct, it will be a big profit for us.

what does FIFA did in the past that helps boosting crypto market? for how many years of this market yet i remember nothing that FIFA BRINGS BEST RESULT.

so i think i will close my beliefs in this part and will expect nothing in effect.

It is not an assurance that there will be a bull run at least because of the FIFA. Of course, bitcoin an crypto will be exposed because of the sponsorship, but it doesn't mean that the fans around the world will suddenly buy bitcoin.  So it's really hard to believed if there will be bull run this year because the price seems to be having a lot of hard time getting an maintaining a price levels because of what is happening around the world, the war in Europe and other factors that might affect investors mentality on crypto and any other assets.

It's not a fantasy and I know that it's hard to achieve. When bitcoin was $500 - $1k. I think it's a fantasy to think that it will be @ $20k and $69k. Well, I think we're still on the same phase and that's where bitcoin is heading, 2 more years for the halving and the effect of it is no longer a secret to us. It may take time until it goes there but whether it will be there or not, I'm prepared for the best and for the worst as well.

if according to the previous cycle, the bullrun will come again in the cryptocurrency world in 2024 or 2025,

because historically the price of bitcoin always increases after the halving, and the halving will also start around 2024, if Bitcoin goes up, then the bullrun begins,
for this year it's better to trade monthly or weekly, if you buy cheap then sell when you get a profit

This is not really a bad approach to crypto, I know it may not happen anytime soon but 500k+ and even 1 million is not impossible for bitcoin at all. I believe that it will happen, the only difference is that I believe it will happen 10 years from now and not right now. This is why I am buying bitcoin at all prices without a care.

I bought bitcoin when it was under 10k, bought when it was over 60k, I will keep on buying bitcoin at all prices because I agree with you that it will be 500k+. That means we are going to see more than 10x increase in the next 10 years, and that would result with me being able to live a much better life thanks to that increase.

That could happen this year and next year, especially if bitcoin can rise even higher in the next month.
But seeing bitcoin increase to $350,000 this year still seems a long way off, especially if you look at the current bitcoin price, which is still under $50k and still below the last ATH.
So it may take some more time for bitcoin to rise from any highs to $350,000 or more.
Meanwhile, altcoins can only follow unstable bitcoin price movements so altcoins will inevitably experience instability.

Well, it's true that Bitcoin market is unpredictable so anything could happen in this market and I'm not saying I'm 100% sure that it's going to be bearish next year but I'm just basing it from the history of the market. But just like I said, Bitcoin market is unpredictable since we don't know what could be the future and a lot of things happening in the past already that's why I'm not so certain with my prediction.

We all have our own understanding about the market and there's no right or wrong here it's just the market act depending on the world reaction about the economy and $50k might come soon or not anymore unless if there's a bull run.

Not even the halving gives assurance for that.
We can't erase the possibility for another ATH  during that year but the amount that had been cited on Twitter is somewhat impossible.
Not totally I was going to believe about History Repeat itself. I guess we need to move forward and accept that what happens before cannot happen again in the future, might we actually expect more. This seems it helps to motivate people rather than thinking of the past.

Not too realistic I think. More wishful thinking than anything.

I think adaseb has given us the main clue:


Although with Bitcoin you can never know for sure, I highly doubt there will be a bull run this year. And if it does occur, it would not be based on a repeat of previous cycles isolated from events happening in the real world. The predictions for last year, which all gave at least $100K, were based on a repeat pattern of cycles, when it's not like the Bitcoin has had a million cycles with similar patterns, there had only been 3 cycles before.

I think if we go into a bull run it will be a combination of things like: end of the Ukraine war, more states adopting bitcoin as a legal tender and some large companies announcing they are buying bitcoin for their reserves and/or accepting bitcoin payments.

but the thing is How many of them ( Prominent crypto trader) has this speculation ? because it seems that there are only few who has been saying same manner but many are still silent and not putting their beliefs this year.

Like what you mentioned He is very Bullish so how would you expect us to literally believe a bullish person? and besides he is not a prominent if he just wanted to boost Bitcoin price despite of no related situation to come.

Chances that those unfortunate things after the 4 year cycle happen from the past will not happen by this year or even in 2023 since as of now many great things happen, bitcoin already gaining good momentum in the mainstream as well it got a good usage upon this war happening on Ukraine - Russia which many think as the government in other parts of the world that bitcoin is really good alternative currency to them. So for seeing red days on it I think it will only happen in short time period which is normal happening in bitcoin for over the past years.

Hard to judge, there is 'history repeats itself' in crypto, but then again bitcoin narrative has evolved since the last bull run of 2017. So it's really hard to see where the price is going, specially with the geo-political thingy that is going around the world, and then the war Ukraine vs Russia. There is this thought that both countries will go on bitcoin to survived and this might push the price or start a bull run. So far we have seen the price touching $43k again, but we have seen this before and so far it can't sustain the ran.

This is very unrealistic and too far away where this prediction exceeds the limit which is too high while in this case the prediction for 2022/2023 can be said to be in the near future but does it really reach a fantastic number?
We may be able to see from the current price that it is still difficult to reach ATH and even above $40k it is still in its usual correction, if bitcoin has passed the unexpected it means that ATH is back now then a continued upward movement is possible but now we know it is still hard to redeem just $50k.

$50,000 will come. It is guaranteed one hundred percent. Whether it will come this week, next week, next month, or next year is something we cannot be sure of. What we can only be sure of is that it will come. And that is regardless if whether the market is bullish or bearish. Because the truth is that Bitcoin is designed to increase in value. If there is no bull run, it doesn't mean $50,000 will not arrive. The movement may be slow but it will still be upward.

     If we are to really just talk about the history repeating itself, then the people who have suggested this should have already sold most of thejr bags last year November-december since those were the best times to sell since by history repeating itself we should be expecting a bearish time or a winter for the crypto industry. Currently bitcoin is trying to push through 45k but I don't expect it to reach thag price just yet since we are approaching the weekends again. An honest opinion amd already a bullish outlook is 70k with a maximum of 90k for this year.

I really can't imagine if his prediction is right, if it is true that he is a bullish person then many people also believe in him,

Bitcoin to $350000? I was surprised!, this year is really confusing everyone haha,

if Bitcoin really goes to $350k then we will see Altcoins will also go high to the moon  ;D ;D

The value of 350k dollars is not possible this year.The first wanted price in bitcoin is 65k dollars again.Now the price will back to 45k ,then the investment will increased huge.When the investment increased,demand will increased soon.Demand is enough to increase in price for huge.Kindly be a reality.The Rome was not build in one day.To see that 350k dollars,it will takes a couple of years.

Lol, I think that's too much for now bro because we haven't been in a new ath yet and I am expecting an ath of 80k something because the last ath was at 70k right? and after it may be the next ath will be 100k and so on. The final ath for btc would be 1 million dollar but that takes a lot of time. Maybe it's only our grand children that can witness that happen. How many times the price rise after the halving?

I forget it already, that's why I am asking but what I remember that it happen 1 time but id be more convince if it happened for a lot of time. After every year I always expect for a bull run but if my expectations didn't come true, it's still fine for me.

Influencers may have the ability to manipulate a few people with their words but they cannot manipulate the markets because for that you need money, just because a bunch of kids on Youtube are saying that we are going to see a bull market that does not mean that it is going to happen, would I like for 2022 to be even better than 2021? You bet, but right now even if the price has reached 44k we are still very far away from the ATH and the bulls do not really have the strength to take us there.

It's okay. I'm not hasting for it to see like next year or next few years. It's the actual plan that I've got for long term. Yes, it's too much but it's the same in the past that many have thought that it's too much as well. With halving reducing the rewards of miners, it's going to be the main factor to push it to that price.

On 2017 it was $20k.
While for 2020-2021, the highest was $69k. So that's like 3x of increase after the halving. And for the next halving, even it's going to be just 2x then that will lead to $130k+.

Unfortunately people only "talk" about how it will repeat itself, and not act accordingly. The simplest proof of this is that everyone knows that you should buy when the price is at the bottom and low, and you should sell when it peaks and high right? Well by that logic, how could it even get low? If nobody sells because it is going low and wants to buy because it is going low, it can't even get low by that logic, same goes for the higher prices.

Same idea could be used for the history repeats itself, if it repeats itself then we could get very very wealthy all together, just buy at the same time, and sell at the same time and it will repeat forever and we will get richer and it is so simple. Hence why it won't happen that way.

Because we do have different approach towards price situations or moments which would lead in to different types of actions to be made thats why price would really be volatile and unpredictable as always.

As for individual personal view then actions be made would be accordingly on what you are observing whether you do buy on dip which might not be a dip price into others.
As for this market normal possible situations to happen then its impossible to think that there would be no bullrun but the question as always is on WHEN?

     This is exactly why I always recommend that even if a person doesn't want to be a full time trader, they should at least know the very basic knowledge or skills that are found in trading. Tedious thing yes, but is very beneficial and vutal even for an ordinary investor. I just don't understand why some people blindly invest without even trying to be familiar with what they're putting their money into. They'd rather watch influencers that hype shitcoins rather than watch tutorials about this industry or trading. I don't even know if I should pity them for theur losses or say they deserved it for not taking this industry seriously just like how you would treat other investments like real estate, stocks and more.

Just a few hundreds and we will be on the $50k price, surprising to see the run is still continuing, as we break $43k one of the biggest test so far but we conquer it already and going as high as $44,500 now. So maybe $50k will be the next obvious target and it will be good to see that price again.

And we knows, if we hit $50k in the next couple of weeks we will see another bull run and new all time high.

But $350k? not sure if that is achievable this year, might be too big for 2022.

We are all waiting for that, a bull run is possible when enough nuances converge to describe market conditions in a way that responds to sustained bullish behavior.  Based on serious developments, this is the period when the market is consolidating, sideways, testing safe dip areas.  15% is a bounce back since Feb. 25. It's certainly a bullish signal to build bullish structure, but I don't know what any pattern is going to show next.

Before the Russian invasion of Ukraine I would have thought this year and next
were going to be Bear years but because of the interest in Bitcoin by Russia all of a
sudden a Bear year is looking a little less likely IMO.

Russia is looking to side step the sanctions imposed on it by using Bitcoin so damand
SHOULD increase which MAY contribute to a bull run

Every target is realistic in the right circumstances but we cant just guess higher, there has to be some clue to think such things will happen now especially.   Look for progression and confirmation in events, in price action etc.
  In future much higher prices might occur but right now I think we merely consolidate which to me is quite positive by itself as it helps confirms the prior rise as valid long term not a bubble or empty rise as many label BTC continually.    Put simply the more volume that occurs at any price the greater its confirmation a bit like the blocks themselves :)

$50,000 does not necessarily signal a bull run that will bring the price to its new all time high. I don't think that will be as easy as imagined. If this current increase will be sustained up to $50,000, that means a correction is about to happen. We've just come from $33,000 two months ago. Reaching $50,000 means the increase was fast. If that happens, expect a selling pressure at $50,000. Many must have bought at the price near the recent bottom. They might take profit.

I'm not going to say he is wrong, speculations can be right, and besides, talking back while Bitcoin is $1 long years ago, nobody believes this will reach $10k, but somehow, we even reach $60k in the right time.

While saying Bitcoin will reach $350k, almost everyone reacted it was impossible, it was unrealistic but I'd never find it wrong nor make a conclusion. What went wrong with this is He mentioned a year that makes it unrealistic.

Of course, he is bullish, anyone can be like that. It sounds unbelievable, however, we can't ignore any possibilities.

Everything is possible, but let's just be realistic that this year, it won't be possible, it might take more than that. And as the price grew stronger every 4 years, the more it's harder to make the price goes up. Even last year we have a prediction to $100k at least December 2021 and everyone was jumping or joy in November as we hit all time high.

And so the narrative continues, unfortunately, December was the opposite, the price did go down hard and the dream of hitting 6 digits didn't happen. So the same here, we might put numbers out there, but if it is not realistic then the prediction might not happen.

either 70-90k or 350-450k both are exaggerated expecting this year alone because try to look at the movement and the status of the market , is there any reason why this will be achieved?
to doubled the standing price now? because for me this has nothing to do for the mean time and I believe also that we will be needing at least year or 2 before finally reaching that 6 digit price or even that 90k value.

And what are those specific reasons for you to say that $70k-$90k are exaggerated Bitcoin price predictions? Because, as far as I know, Btc price either rises or fall before we knew the reasons why.
And what do you see about the status and movement of crypto market today?
Isn't Bitcoin has been very volatile lately? rising and falling to $39k up to $45k region, hitting it to a $50k is very much possible anytime this month or two, $70k is most probably achievable within this year If Bitcoin will have another breakout.

Exaggerated thoughts are used by people who are not believers, or who are not optimistic as we are. According to reports, the Russian government is considering accepting Bitcoin as payment, which led Bitcoin to move past its 45k price ceiling. As markets responded to the news, BTC was trading almost 5% higher. This is positive news, and perhaps more good news is on the way. I am optimistic that it will reach 50k/70k by 2022. There will be more ups and downs with bitcoin. However, it will rise someday incredibly. As of now, we are moving in the right direction and $70k can most likely be reached by the end of this year.

don't be too selfish, even though the price of Bitcoin has gone up from $30000 to $45000 this still can't be said to be bullish anymore,
and I still call this situation sideways, you will understand, if on the sideways it will be difficult to go up and difficult to go down, 50:50.
Of course This is very confusing for new users, but don't worry you can learn technical analysis if you want to get past this

FIFA just agreed that world cup official sponsor will be crypto.com, which means that the worlds most watched sports event will have crypto.com written every single place. It is just surreal to imagine so many people seeing crypto.com all the time. It is not like we are talking about some weird name like kraken, or binance, which people may not know what it is all about.

But, crypto.com says crypto in the name and people will see that. You have no idea how many people views those games and that means there will be maybe a billion people checking something with crypto ad. I am bullish on it for sure, do not like the app myself, but definitely bullish on bitcoin.

His bullish prediction maybe is based on the Stock to Flow model.

There are times where we aren't expecting Bitcoin to reach X price but it is surprising us and it reaches that price in a short amount of time. I'm not saying that this price target will not be reached and even I'm very bullish on Bitcoin long term, reaching that price in just 2 years would be nearly impossible though I'm not removing the fact that it can. It can surprise us like what it is doing for a very long time already. Who knows? We might see it or we might not but I don't think that relying on just mere predictions is a good thing but just stick with the strategy that we built.

For me, I'm not believing in his prediction even though I'm bullish but I will not be surprised if it reaches that price in 2 years.

We can't tell for now because it's too early. The price can make a comeback up to 65k and it can continue above 100k so 350k can be realistic.

As of now the price of btc is 44.5k, only 0.5k left and we are on your 45k target but why will the people need to wait for it before they start accumulating? Isn't that a bad move because they will miss so much gain then if they invest now or last time when the price was still at 30k level and what if the price is just joking us? But, few moments later the price will go down again to 40k? People that will invest when btc is green is only going to lose. Cant compare btc to rome because btc can do impossible things.

To hard to predict on how we can see the market goes but what most important thing there is how we can handle the stress if we can afford to buy now then maybe we should do it since the price is much cheap compare to the last ath it reached few months ago. But if you are conservative trader or only have small amount you really need to be careful on the decisions upon buying since you might lose your money on wrong position and I'm sure you regret it.

But as of the moment the potential for pump is high since bitcoin is now taking the mainstream as Russia use this as their alternative currency at the moment.

Bullish market as people are predicting to expect, what research do you think that will course the increment of bull market of bitcoin without investors going into bitcoin market, something we see on Twitter is not true of bitcoin because some of them who brings the news of bitcoin going to rise is online influencers, if they need us to believe the good news of bitcoin entering bull market let evidence should be indicate

Of course not possible because He mentioned several types of Coins. Maybe I agree History repeat will happen only BTC and ETH. If ADA, DOT, LINK , DIA , EGLD and ZIL are difficult or impossible to achieve the price he predicts.  But back to each other's opinion if you want to trust him then follow his advice. If not then do the analysis yourself.

One thing that I find interesting is that both sides of the conflict are using bitcoin for their own purposes, the bitcoin community has sent a significant amount of money to support Ukraine during these difficult times, while the Russian government and some of their citizens are thinking about using bitcoin to sidestep the sanctions, this should show us why bitcoin is unstoppable, as no matter what regulations governments try to be impose on bitcoin, it can still be moved freely and that is incredibly useful no matter how we look at it.

These days bitcoin is stable above $45k, and a few hours ago it touched $49k although there was another correction and currently around $47500, this proves that bitcoin demand continues to increase and is a strong indication that a bull run is imminent or about 2 months again from now on.

This is true, initially it was only Ukraine, with the donations pouring in anonymously. And then Russian government made a U-turn and thinking of accepting bitcoin as payment for their oil. So it's a win-win situation for us bitcoin enthusiast because it just shows how bitcoin can be used in war, so another use case for us. But as far as those predictions by the so called expert, again, I will take everything with a grain of salt. As we really don't know what will be the movement in Q4 of this year.

This is a good thing, it shows that bitcoin could be used in any way you think would benefit you. Russia using crypto to improve their situation and it end up working is a great proof that crypto is above governments. They could try to block us off from the banks, but they can't block crypto itself because it is decentralized and has always been.

This is why I do not trust stablecoins neither, they are usually tied to a company and those companies could be blocked or banned by governments as well. However, bitcoin itself is decentralized and no matter what governments do, they could only drop the price of it, but can't stop it themselves.

The case of Russia what make bitcoin stand out among other currencies since as we see fiat is controllable by world government or shall we say the country who has high influence in the world. Its good thing that Russia used this and show to all that this is ideal option to became alternative currency to anyone. For this I don't see any bad scenarios that can make bitcoin fall since for now people are been hype on it and might we can see bitcoin to rise again.

That is why it seems like the Ukraine-Russia War that is happening right now is kinda like a "blessing in disguise" towards Bitcoin since many people are using it to help both countries in their own ways.

This is the power of decentralization where nobody can stop anything. Bitcoin is for all. You can also see Russia trying to use cryptocurrencies just to evade those sanctions that has been put to them. Its hard I think but at least they are making ways to at least stimulate the economy though I believe that their economy will be affected greatly with what is happening.

Due to the war bitcoin have got more exposure, before the war it was the pandemic that made people look for opportunities on the internet. This landed a big number of users into cryptocurrency. As a result the price peaked and marked its ATH. Further corrective decline took place. After a long the price crossed $48k, but it wasn't able to sustain. Now the price have fallen down around $45k. Right now there is no need of thinking about a bull run, because the market move is happening within limits for longer time period.

Confined for now, price action will accumulate but I think people expect too much too soon when in a larger time frame we might just tread water.   The rise from the lowest to highest price this year will still be an epic gain, its worth being bullish in that respect just not thinking we get new all time highs especially.
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I'm looking at the two averages here as a boundary till we can prove otherwise.   We are free from the prior downtrend so quite positive compartively.

It would be always a bumpy ride because having those medium pumps in price doesnt indicate that we are already on a start of a bull run.Well, i could not deny nor oppose into those people whom had thought that

it was just the start because of the current recognition or exposure of Bitcoin in between Russia vs Ukraine war.Dont expect if you dont like to get frustrated because everything would be random and unpredictable.

Whether we do experience some bull run for this year or into the next one which is always been a common question into our minds.

It is natural that people do not like to talk about it but any catastrophic event, whether is caused by nature or by humans, always brings new opportunities to those that better adapt to the new circumstances, both sides of the conflict can bring benefits to themselves by using bitcoin, which right now it seems the only thing in which they agree, as despite the reports it does not seem as if the peace talks are going anywhere.

Expect that it should go sideways on that area once again but I still firmly believe that we are still in the strongest phase to the upside. I think that correction is healthy and one more thing is that I don't make it a basis on  smaller timeframe, always looking at the macro level of things.

Well, I'd just put aside the situation that happens to Ukraine and Russia and their impact on the crypto market. Let's say it was a blessing in disguise but I believe that even there is no such war between the two prices will still go up somehow, it was just in coincidence.

Yeah, Bitcoin is unstoppable. Many negative speculations rise that it collapses but what we see is big different from how these negative people view it. We can't really predict the market but then, we can really expect the uptrend rather than thinking more about the downsides.

Agree with what you said, that today we have learned a lot how cryptocurrencies actually have an impact on bulls and corrections, even many experts who try to make predictions are totally wrong, as well as traders and investment experts, following history is not wrong, but most importantly analysis and developments today are not always the same as experiences in the future, that's why analysis and knowledge itself is needed here

that Bold part is obviously the answer to this question and that is what?

NO I dont believe that , because it is obviously His wordings is only luring investors so it will pump the price but basically he has no proof of how this may happen and when.

so Nope never listen to a person that completely bully because all words that he will give is surely in favor of his coins.

I do believe that I am as bullish as it gets while keeping realism as well. I am not saying that 350k+ is not possible, of course it is possible, in crypto anything is possible and if we had a big run like we had from 2020 to 2021, but this time from 2022 to 2023, then we could see that kind of price. However, to be a bit more realistic, I would assume that the best case for us right now would be to have a 100k price point.

If we can reach that, I would be incredibly happy and that is my goal. I am not saying we will reach that neither, we "can" reach that but there is no guarantee. However there is a big difference between hoping to reach 100k and hoping to reach 400k. Mine seems a bit more realistic and possible.

In a highly volatile world, anything can happen, and expect unexpected things to happen, we are always shy of one big event happening to reach our downfall or reach our goal if that's his analysis and expectation then so be it, you should have your own analysis and you can base it on other expert's analysis, the most important is to see all sides to come out with the best action based on proven analysis, experts are not perfect but can contribute to your analysis.