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It looks like Shiba inu is the biggest Ponzi scheme of them all, if not why look like it? Whales kept buying billions and billions of Shiba inu tokens since last week like they heard a rumour or something and now Shiba listed on the Robinhood exchange then the price starts going down, tell me this is not an inside job.

Im not sure about which point that will be supporting your statement if this was an inside job, if this was true and the whales will not try to risking their money caused by that. It seems like that your accusation was not true at all. Maybe the whales wanna buy shiba inu caused by a reason. in my opinion that when whales are buying more tokens didn't mean if this is a manipulation or inside job. I think that you need more proof to make sure if that was not an inside job.
Just saying like that was not enough.

This is not a hack, most crypto hacks are inside jobs thats my own belief but in this case whales are capable of good market predictions too, if they smell any inside job they won't take the risk of buying billions of Shiba Inu tokens, your claim is wrong. Next time make sure you have something valid against a project before creating this type of topic.

Price can go down after listing, it isn't a guarantee for instant price growth and robinhood is avoided by a lot of traders right now.


No one was talking about any hack.


That's just speculation that they wouldn't risk it. And whales most certainly talk to each other so there's ton of insider trading going on all the time as there has been before.

After regulators got interested in crypto trading it isn't just so obvious anymore. It's more opaque now.

that's 100% insider trading. That doesn't exactly mean that it is a ponzi scheme, far from it, if anything it's an overhyped crypto that's been on a downtrend lately and whales saw an opportunity to make a quick buck off it thanks to the insider

This literally happens all the time in the cryptosphere, hell, there's allegations of possible insider trading from Coinbase right now https://mobile.twitter.com/cobie/status/1513874972552355846
and again, it doesn't mean those cryptos are ponzi schemes, they're just shitty vaporware that are easy to manipulate (PumpAndDump) if you are well-connected (whale groups, insider info, etc)

IMO, I think most of the cryptocurrencies are also working that way, do you mean that most of them are Ponzi too? is that what you are portraying mate? I believe it's not like that and it's not appropriate to say that it was an inside job, the so-called whales have money to gamble and take the risks thats why they also have a big chance to earn big profits out of it. and that's not a Ponzi scheme as far as I know.

I don't see this token is going down right now. Bitcoin is doing a small recovery and this makes the price can sustain. In my opinion if pump and dump in the crypto are not something new for sure. Even when the whales have bought billions of shiba inu and that's their money. If you are not feeling good with it and then just jump into another cryptocurrency. The whales buying big stack of crypto was a common thing in this world. You may need to see that what happened in another token as well. The whales are always trying to make more money from the market.
This is why when they are starting to accumulate and people will be starting to jump and follow the whales.

Are you an investor or a trader? It's clear on the BTC chart that this recovery from 39500$ might be the last before the biggest dump in the history if crypto in 2022, its clear that BTC is having a difficult time to keep up with bulls, its getting tired and also how much impact does Robinhood listing have on Shiba inu? That's what I was talking about, whales took profit and Shiba is going down again.

Probably an insider but whales may already know its going to be listed on the exchange so they accumulated now dumped it this is why we should avoid trusting the highly manipulated coins but still many feel that Shiba is going to be the next Doge and become highly profitable investment.

What the whales are doing isn't your thing. So if you've got the same mindset of making money from shiba then you should have bought also.
Whether they have an insider information or none, these whales will do the same thing repetitively. Maybe it could be for shiba again or for another coin but it's not your matter anymore if they do that again.

Don't get it twisted crypto market 9s are always like that the are times when a particular coin/token will get extremely pumped to the point of making a new all-time high that is familiar with most meme coins which Shiba inu is one of them. These coins are created as a joke and can easily be pumped by the team or any whales that want to fill his bag. Shiba inu right from time has been one of the most active meme coins after the 🐕 dog coin so there are whales in the Shiba inu network who want to pump the market at this point.

You mean insider trader? Yeah, it's possible but it's hard to proved in crypto space.
And what do you expect from a meme coin? or coins whales are going to buy in volume because it is very cheap and it's just a matter of time before it explodes and then they get out with X amount of profits.

So regardless if there is an inside job or not, it's pretty obvious that it will be used for pump and dump scheme by whales and manipulators in crypto space.

Where did you read that whales were buying billions and billions of tokens before the listing? The rumor about Shib getting listed on Robin hood was around for ages. Nothing new. And where did you read or see that the price started to go down after the listing? As far as I know it went up 30% within few hours. And yeah, even if the price dropped, it was expected. They needed to make quick profit. People bought the rumor, and sold the news.

I don't know whether that's accurate or not to call this as a ponzi scheme just caused by you are seeing the whales are trying to buy more and more billions tokens from the market. In my opinion if your statement was not accurate at all. You have no proof if the whales are also manipoulating the market. Buying billions of shiba inu were not wrong at all and as far as i know if this rumor was true or not. When the whales bought billions USD of shiba inu and there would be a very big price impact to the price of shiba inu while the fact that nothing happened with it

This is how it always works.  Almost all of these are scams and as far as exchange listing it always happens look at the volume of any alt before a major exchange addition lots of volume.  That's the people who know they are listing them loading up the truck lol.  If you arent in the know you are bound to lose with these tokens.  Best stuck with bitcoin.

I've been on the sidelines since I made a big profit when FOMO followed the project. I know some teams have continuously pushed the price of this coin to get to ATH. Not only in the case of Shiba Inu, but there are many big coins that work like this. You can see this is also a good thing and get used to them, I am sure if it works for a long time, in this space, you will still see many projects listed on the top exchanges and released uncontrollably :)

I don't see any Ponzi scheme here nor inside job, these are just a normal move in crypto most popular memes like this are subject to manipulation by whales, market makers shaking weak hands and forced to sell then pump the price this is how they earn huge profit from weak hands so if your a believer then don't ever sell until you meet your target price.   

I would suggest the same thing. If someone sees whales are buying billions of Shib, you should also do the same because you already have the hunch that something could come up. Learning about SHIB getting listed on robinhood which is not just for crypto markets, its definitely something worth investing. Only few crypto got there and you have the chance to buy millions of it with just $1000.

Shib has been bought buy people even before its on robinhood, a not very close friend was laughing for profiting more than 10x for buying SHIB and she is not someone I thought would really be into crypto because this is a mother of 4.

inside job to be honest till this date shiba team still anonymous and we dont even understand how much shitcoin that shiba dev have been made but yes shiba become one of many who sucess creating shitcoin that been listed on big cex

I personally also can't accuse or convict that it's an inside job because I've also never been involved with Shiba Inu until now, neither in terms of trading nor in terms of investment because I don't like any coin memes from the past. And even if it could be right by the actions of insiders, I think they also have the right to do so because basically they also want a lot of profit from investors, so there is nothing wrong with this mate.

although shiba dev team anonymous they are good team that could bring project that called shitcoin by many investors until survive for long term and even listing at top tier 1. maybe if compare with another project,  they are doing better.

maybe its whales games that have early information,i am believe insider working here. buying roumor and selling the news could done well by them.

More like an overhyped project instead? Honestly the whales are just playing games with small time investors right now imo, creating hype news about the coin while temporarily forcing its price to increase, then when something that could help the hype reach it's peak, they sell and make a profit out of it.

Traders can also take advantage of it, just that you're only following the wave and not exactly starting it, so you have to know when it falls down or not. It's the usual crypto stuff tbh.

Wouldn't be surprised if it was Shiba or Doge as these coins are made to bump and dump. This is how the market works so no one is to blame here. If you are the victim in this situation becoming the liquidity provider to the sharks then blame yourself instead of the blame.
Shiba is listed on Robinhood and it is completely normal for sharks to take profits. If you were a shark, you would do the same thing.

well, we don't know if this is an inside job or not. however, the price of shiba is still quite cheap, so we don't know when people are interested in buying shiba in bulk. it's just, I think this kind of thing happens quite often with meme coins. people will be attracted by the price increase, then the price is dumped slowly. therefore, it is very risky to invest in memecoin. we don't know what will happen in the future. prices can rise quickly, or even fall in a short time.

I don't understand what kind of inside job you're talking about the price of SHIB is down because of market situation as you can see BTC is struggling from the last couple of weeks so we can't expect something positive with altcoins so it's not surprising at all if SHIB didn't perform well after Robinhood listing although it may bring effective results in future.

I think if the shiba inu is said to be a ponzi scheme it is unfair, the basis of all altcoins is the same, they go in first and leave when someone comes in. But ponzi are actually those who are really openly turning money from investments with definite profits for a predetermined period of time. Meanwhile, when we buy Shiba inu and other altcoins, we must make predictions and careful consideration, and when we lose, we have to consider it.

This is how they make money.
This is also one of the best examples of how "buy the rumor, sell the news". Yes, I admit there will be always an inside job here, this becomes normal especially these big exchanges are involved because they will always be expected to go up once the news is release to the public.

One of the first phrases that i heard when i first came into this forum and was looking up other stuff about crypto was "Buy the rumor, sell the news". So what happened with Shiba Inu and the Robinhood listing is nothing new. I mean i am pretty sure that a handful of people where directly involved in the negotiations between robinhood and Shiba Inu regarding the listing and all those people could have told anyone that they know about it, so i guess for the whales with good connections it was not to hard to find out that a listing might be imminent. Then after the news came out and Shiba Inu's price went up 20% they sold off. It's always the same.

What can we do if Shiba is indeed the biggest Ponzi scheme? If you don't want to get involved in it, then you shouldn't invest in Shiba and choose other coins for investment. I see many people continue to invest in Shiba because they see an opportunity to make a profit. But I'm not sure if insiders caused the decline in Shiba prices but that's because the crypto market is experiencing a decline. You can see what happened to the other coins, a lot of them went down and even bitcoin went down.

what the OP pointed out is not completely correct. I think insider or not, that's how the meme project works. they are trying to get their tokens to be talked about and bought by a lot of people. and Shiba I think managed to do it.
you are right, if you have doubts and have suspicions, the OP should distance himself from the token. the most important thing is not to feel confused when what we have analyzed or guessed does not match what is happening in the market.

In my opinion, if you buy a meme token, you have to use cold money and be prepared to lose whatever it is. for the price movement to go down because there is a skewed issue, I don't focus too much on it. I saw it from the daily transaction volume and the fully diluted market cap from the website https://coinmarketcap.com/ .

If that's how the Ponzi scheme works then even coins that whales are buying can be considered Ponzi you have to update yourself or get the right fact about how Ponzi works, you can buy anytime and you can sell anytime there's no guaranteed profit, this is trading and when you are trading you will get to know all the information about the coin you're investing, directly from their community or chat board, that is why they are buying.

I do not doubt that either, there is something fishy that is going on with Shiba Inu, they had big investors right from the start and they were getting more exposure and exchange listings from the start and their developers are still unknown and i will not be surprised if there will be wash trading going on in the background and i have seen some gambling sites accepting Shiba Inu which was strange but that is how the market is, really unpredictable  :D.

Look at it this way,  there is upcoming news.. what would investors do?  Of course, they will buy into speculation that the price would spike when the listing event happens.  But bear in mind that in the history of cryptocurrency, not all listings in exchange create an increase in price.  There are several altcoins that were listed on a very good exchange but suffered a huge decline in price right after they were listed.  I think it isn't an inside job that the price of Shiba Inu goes down right after it was listed on the Robinhood exchange.  It is probably because several investors were disappointed with the market movement when Shiba Inu was listed on that exchange and sold their holdings due to frustration.

That's how really crypto works and how most investors deal with it. It doesn't mean that if a coin is being listed on a new exchange, it would pump and reach a good price right away. Whales always take advantage of every market situation even huge project events like a new listing and that doesn't make a project a Ponzi scheme.

This is the correct answer, whales are just manipulating the market as they want as they have the power to do so, such a thing is illegal almost everywhere around the world but since the market of cryptocurrencies is still at an early stage and it is difficult to regulate what happens here then whales can get away with almost anything, so price manipulation is something that is not a big deal for them, which is one of the reasons why people need to avoid the majority of altcoins as they can be manipulated at will by the whales.

I've known crypto for a few years, it's enough to see the situation and the game, the way they play the game, the problem that happened to shiba has never happened to other coins, just look at the next few months if shiba is registered in Robinhood, it will experience an increase.

It’s a regular thing in the market , if you don’t want to experience it the only thing you’re going to do is to avoid all these coins that has a smaller market cap, because they are always going to be fluctuating that much. Coins with smaller market cap can easily be manipulated by all those whales, which is why Bitcoin remains a solid choice these days because nobody can do that.

But anyways, that’s not enough reason to avoid altcoins, because there are still so many good coins that we can find in the market. And the fluctuation will always occur, the market will not only run up, there will be times it will fall.

No one can be blamed in terms of investing, let alone trying to blame others, because basically the investment that is started must have a good understanding, both shiba inu and dogecoins are altcoins, this must be understood, their concept is not the same as other potential coins, so I think it is the investment pattern that must be corrected, because if the investment we make is based on people's reactions, this can actually make us lose under any circumstances

Could you share announcement with us here or post a link to share with the information with here. But mostly sincerely speaking altcoin or cryptocoin must not remain static due to up and down movement of the market. If Shiba goes down after listing doesn't really show it's a scam or something else but mostly information has been shared underground and wanting to dump the market enabling the whales to buy more before any pump or the next pipelining.

I'm sure several big whales simultaneously carrying out the same mission of pumping shiba coins are under the influence of the hype, but unfortunately the hype shib didn't get much response from the community so it couldn't achieve a 50% increase, whereas previously the shiba coin was very sensitive if it was influenced by news trends positive.

If your instinct is telling you that it is bad then maybe it’s best that you avoid it. But As for me so far I don’t really think that shibainu is a Ponzi scheme and it is not. It is normal for you to see whales investing in this coin because it has been trending for long now and a lot of people knows about it. You would even see big influencers on social media talking about it which includes Elon Musk himself.

So, it is really a big coin now and Robin Hood is even adopting it late judging by when other crypto currency exchanges has added it to their own platform such as coinbase.com and binance.com. it is normal for a coin to Dip, it’s not like this is the first coin that is doing so, it has been happening in the cryptocurrency market for long. Don’t expect it to just keep going up.

Investors often trade for events. If the Shiba Inu team announced that something spectacular was about to happen, traders were buying tokens in advance and waited for the announcement. At the moment of listing on Robin Hood, the price jumps, as it also happened this time, and traders use this moment to sell with a profit of 20% (for example), which can be even several million dollars for large investments.

If there is an inside job but why the pope dares to buy shiba inu up to billions of course this is something we have to take into account, and for me shiba inu is indeed a coin that is building their future well so that it is currently re-listed on the Robinhood exchange of course this will have a positive impact on the future of the coin, so at this time the decision depends on each of us which is certainly shiba inu is not a ponzi scheme.

Although the big whales don't know the future of the news that becomes popular, but the investment involvement of the big whales has a positive impact on the price increase, but unfortunately if you trade short for 20% profit, the price will drop after being dumped to take profit.

and if you feel there's something wrong for ex here in shib, then don't spend any penny buying this meme token. no one is obliging to buy a hyped-up project. it is always your prerogative to get involved in this type of project. if your instincts is saying that this will go sideways, then don't push yourself into this token.
as the amount revolving on this token is quite huge, hard to conclude that there's inside job. we also don't know if these whales are capable of communicating with each other.

Why would it look like an inside job when the price of Shiba Inu only pumped 20% max and then dumped? At no point was there a big pump as expected to be seen in a listing of Cobinhood size

You are right.

To consider it an inside job we need to take in consideration every pump and dump schemes of crypto market as well. What I can say is that it was pure speculation which led SHIB to almost hit 0,00003$ on April 12, crashing to 0,000026$ immediately. Now SHIB has reached deeper, to 0,000025$. Looking the charts I see people behind this currency can't take it to a new ATH anymore, so they are profiting from smaller pumps schemes, like the one from last week. Sadly, many crypto news sites are giving support to this memecoin through advertisement and hot articles during the pumps, what somehow endorses investors to buy SHIB and lose money.

I don't think Shiba Inu - a crypto currency, works like a Ponzi Scheme. A Ponzi Scheme is more like an investment outfit or platform where the platform owners use the money of early investors to pay older investors. Often times the platform have no source of income of their own and depend largely on the frequency of new investors that join the platform. But for cryptocurrency coin or token, a new investor or old investor can make money, it all depends on the activity of the individual and not the platform.

IMO. Whales acted proactively in view of the listing on Robinhood and planned to sell when the value goes up - may be due to the listing. The news of the listing means that the token may go up in value because of increase in the purchase of the token. They bought much more earlier. I don't think it is an inside job. That is also what most of us are doing. We buy early in view of expected increase so as to make profit.

Im not sure why you called it as the biggest ponzi in the history. The shiba inu developers have no premined tokens and whole of tokens already in the circulating supply except the tokens that being sent by vitalik to the a charity organization in india but i heard that they have returned so many funds back again. So, what's wrong with it? If whales are accumulating more and more tokens from the market and nothing wrong with it. The whales are also traders as well. They are accumulating something that can give benefit for all of them.
This is a common thing in the crypto market and pretty much the same like stock market.

not only shiba inu but the supply and demand mechanism that exists in all cryptocurrencies that contain speculation is also a kind of ponzi, but usually ponzi openly makes their website look like an investment that produces instant results in a certain period of time and is very large. Unlike speculative coins, although those who arrive late they will receive losses if they are not good at seeing opportunities, this is pure cryptocurrency law, with no definite big profit provisions. Maybe some people who take cheap profits can also be a cover for new people coming in so they can take higher profits by big not selling them.

Robinhood is apparently not a big market, of course after shiba inu is listed there they will immediately go down quickly because there will definitely be a temporary increase, that's normal for almost all coins when listed on the market, not just low tier exchanges like robinhood, even big exchanges like binance also often experiences it after listing on the market their coin will drop in the next few hours but usually this is just an opportunity for whales to buy back. Don't worry if you miss this opportunity, because there are many other opportunities for Shiba inu.

we can see the trading volume on the shiba inu, until now it still ranks at the top on coinmarketcap. so in my opinion, although the price is currently falling again, the volume is still relatively high, so there are still many investors who hope that shiba will make a profit for them, and indeed buy it in the market so that price fluctuations are normal, and the resilience of the volume is a reference that this coin is still has great power, unlike most new coins which after a dump, they seem to disappear

Every time the price increases or decreases in price in a market it will greatly affect the project or investor that will run later. There are some investors who are very worried about the downturn that is happening. but it's natural for everyone to be concerned about what they're investing in.

Until this day BTC dev is still largely Anonymous, what do you have to say about that? Do you know how many top altcoins in crypto space that have anonymous teams? Yet these projects are doing so well than those with visible team members.

It is not just an "inside job", it is basically just some people who decided to take advantage of the success doge had during Elon Musk tweet period and that's it, there is really nothing new to it. I am not saying that they are scammers or something, they are not really scammers, they just wanted to build a project and get rich based on already hyped thing and that's it.

Doge is a meme, shibainu is the dog in that picture, so they just wanted to use that, there is also floki which is layer 3, doge is the meme, shibainu is the type of dog, floki is the shiba dog that elon musk has, and they created a token even for that. Just hype riding, nothing more.

And for me that's manipulation. A large portion of investors are expecting a great pump after the new listing and whales can take advantage of this. Sell all their Shiba tokens and let the small investors buy them using the expectations. Now it won't pump that hard because whales are not joining in yet. Let the drama sink like this thread that will dump the market and as soon as it happens they buy back. They can play this kind of game for a thing that has no project at all.
If not manipulation, it's a marketing strategy. They know many investors will react and that means free advertising to every social media outlet.

this kind of method being used by someone that holds big capital quite frequently they are always trying manipulating traders that are newbie into thinking that they could scores a really profit through the memecoins everytime a sudden bullrun occurs and at the end of the day they are the ones that lost their money.
basically these big traders are just taking advantage of the rumour and nothing more, it’s just so many newbie traders are falling for the same thing over and over again, if there is any rumour relating with memecoins you could just ignore them if you don’t want losing money after all meme coins are being regarded as highly speculative trading instrument because some reasons and surely this is also one of the few reasons supporting that categorization.

What happens is that even if the whales are incredibly powerful that does not mean that they can achieve everything by themselves, we are talking about manipulation here which means they need to lead newbies and inexpert traders to their desired direction and make them to invest in coins against their best judgement and it is obvious that right now Shiba does not hold the power that it once held among newbie investors, which is why they cannot pump the price as much as they did in the past.

It is just another meme coin being hyped the crap out and nothing more. I am even seeing people some newer accounts here building a "shilled" reputation and people seemingly just take that bait and keep buying this coin over and over.
It even gave birth to plenty of this crappy variants.

Not sure what the pope did to the Shiba inu, in fact the meme coin is not of good value at the moment, I have doubts about starting to invest in the shiba inu, it seems more and more unclear.

Believe it or not shiba is currently being talked about by many users in negative words.

If you still have doubts about any meme coin, then step back from now on and never invest in it because every choice and job always has a risk that is balanced with profit, so let those who dare to take risks on meme coins to make their own move. because everyone has different investment options and it doesn't have to be into memecoin.

Well, I have a similar opinion about meme coins! That's why this hype about meme coins is a bit confusing for me, clearly, some powerful group of people is running the show from the shadow, there is no other explanation for the meme market behavior in some moments! I am sure that some whales are taking advantage and making a profit from that!
I don't have investments in meme coins as well, but I am getting some of them in various casinos from staking some other tokens. But amount I am getting is low, so I am not doing anything with them, they are just stacking...

Everyone has a view in carrying out investments, they can develop investments based on knowledge or identify potential coins thoroughly, for me this coin is not very strong to run, so there is no guarantee of any kind if it continues to be forced, a large enough amount is also the main thing that becomes consideration, but everyone can conclude according to their respective knowledge

they talked because its hype maybe gone meanwhile they invest alot on shiba. since beginning shiba could survive because its hype and shill from crypto influencer that always said positive about shiba. in fact although its listed on robinhood which is huge exchange in US, it still not enough to drive price even it dumped after listing. maybe meme coin trend ended and change to another part.

That's only your basis? It's is just a speculation and if you can't give more solid proof then your claim is just a plain rumor. We may not be sure but maybe investors see something about the movement of the Shiba coin and it is also not a bad thing to follow whales since they have a good impact to the market and they can sometimes affect the movement of a certain coin.