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Is there still any ways to find investments or advisors for crypto project without paying?

When we trying to find some venture investments they offer us discord bots for thousand of dollars instead of advising or money.

You are the biggest and the oldest crypto community. What should we do with the team if we have skills to make a product and have everything is ready to start development and we only need money and advising.


The project what i am talking about WeiWey ANN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394918)

Just start development and show working product man. Why in 2022 people need millions to start coding ... Did satoshi need advisors and investors with millions to start working on bitcoin? Same with Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, Google, Harley Davison and Disney. They all started in garages. Create product that everyone wants to use and then monetize it like uniswap or 1inch exchange did. ICOs spoiled people in crypto showing them than all you need to be rich is a desire to make a copy of something someone might do someday. We have 18 000 such projects in crypto. Its not like that anymore. At least i hope so.

You must become a high tier rank project to be able to attract the venture capital to invest in your project. IF your project was a low tier project and don't think those venture capitals will be interested with your project. Your project must be very popular as well.

lol venture investments will never try to do that, you are offering fake venture investment for sure.
So, try to develop your project first and try to gian popularity. Venture capital will never invest in your project if your project have no popularity among the crypto users

We dont need millions actually to develop a MVP we need just like $30k but we are Ukrainians and it's not easy money for us here to earn them yourself.

And we are looking for small money on seed for NFT and overall GameFi industry just 150k$ for seed round. But i agree with you in overall.

Thank you for your feedback!

I see how no names just blowing up from zero to hero in one day. Some projects that you never heard about and booom 20 tweets in one day 20m invested 10k discord and only promises about launch in 2023,2024 but how they did it where did they found support like this. I can't understand it. If we even can develop the product by ourselves how we can advertise him without money and advisors and funds support. No one believes in our product without funds and its true.

Our funds (its joke) but radish capital seems real

https://i.imgur.com/mToeLeO.png

"What Is the Average Salary of a Software Developer in Ukraine? In Ukraine, the average salary for a senior software developer is $51K a year or around $4,250 a month."
https://www.daxx.com/blog/outsourcing-ukraine/what-average-salaries-for-developers-in-ukraine

And
"How much money do you need to live comfortably in Ukraine?
Family of four estimated monthly costs are 1,437$"
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Ukraine

So if you are a team of programmers "we have skills" it shoudl be possible for you to earn or borrow such money. And to be honest I don't know from where you took those numbers.


Big money creates more money by market manipulation and social engineering.

If i would senior software developer i'd just did it. I was publisher, CEO and community manager in game development i dont have programmer skills. I know how to develop product and my co-founder is product manager in real sector. We know how to build a product and how to lead a product and work with a team but for sure we can't do it by ourselves.

That's the problem of every poor guy out there. In this capitalist world, you need money to make money.

Without the funds your only option is whoring yourself for pay checks until you save or get lucky to make enough funds to start your own projects. There was another guy in another thread looking for investors for his casino project. You say you have the skills to make products and I take this as you know how to code. If you can't find the funds to back your project, you'll have to sell your skills to somebody else for money till you save enough money to back your project. I don't see any other way.

Then try to raise some funds through the launch pad like pinksale. I meant if your target was low and it can be reached easily. The only main thing is to build the hype. What about start to create your announcement thread and introduce what you have been aiming with the funds? this will far better. So, people need to trust you before they will be sending their money for you. Just try to raise the funds through some IDO if you can.

Actually you don't need a advisor, if you have everything. start development and deliver a product already operational or in alpha/beta version. after that start looking for funding through ICO / IEO / IDO, either way you just need to choose one. Having an advisor for a project just getting started may be great, but it's not everything. as long as the project you're developing has users it's more than enough.

You should be able to find angel investors, or they can also be called donors, or you should offer the advantages of your project with greater profits to investors or advisors so that they are interested in joining your project. They are investors who have a lot of money, sometimes they are not too interested in adding large profits in diamonds, they prefer to have their name known with the brand you create. It is better.

It's very hard to say that. TBH you are lack of resource to promote your project. The only way for you to make your project famous. I meant you must also learn about how the marketing trick that used by the shit token. The shit token able to raise some funds and i think that you will able to do that too. This is the only way for you to get some funds to be able to promote or pay exchange site to listing your token.

for now, almost every project requires investors to develop the project. Knowledge and skills alone are not enough, but how do we convince investors to invest in the projects we work on, so that as our coins develop, they will become an attraction for other investors. and right now what's rife is the metaverse project, and you can develop it, if the project is on its way to softcap, it will be easier to reach hardcap, and finally by entering on a popular exchange will pave your way

I do not understand what you really want?  There are very few people with such generosity now.  And do you want to get yield without planting crops?  Start with a small investment. It can be your money or your talent. It is better if it is your talent.  Start working, present the work in the right place, then you don't have to begging for investment, it will run to you.

You can't invest if you don't have money. But you can find advisors without paying them and that's true giving them a share of your project's percentage and if you share the same interest.

That's not organic and you already have an idea on it.

Do you really think that there's a need to make that "product"? I guess that you're pointing out another project or token which is going to be the foundation of it and ask yourselves if you really need to make one.

Thank you all for your advices, but when you say

- You can find advisors without paying them. I want to ask "how? and where?" that is the question.

You can find our materials in WeiWey ANN Topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394918) and maybe you'll like what we do

Difficult, maybe if you found some people that are for free, expect that you cannot guarantee 100% they are legit, they could lead you to bankruptcy.
Another thing is subscribing to some social media personalities is another good idea, especially in Twitter which there are some twitter crypto personalities are giving free lessons or guides about cryptocurrency, just be careful with scammers.

Try to apply into the some IDO. In my opinion if this is the best way for you to get people who interested in investing in your project. I meant find the investor like venture capital is so difficult this day and it's not caused by money but so many things being considered by VC to invest in a specific project. I do know marketing, etc will need money but this is the only way for you to be able to get bunch of investors investing in your project.
You have been talking with some IDO platforms about how to quality to be a part of project that will be launched through IDO?

It is hard to request online or via search in internet. The best way is to approach capable people within your area or among your connections. Most will require for some sort of compensation because they will be using their name for the project. So if you will look via internet search, I don't think you can find someone who will do it for free. Your chance of getting advisors that will not ask for payment will be your close friends or colleagues.

They don't work with project at early stage (whitepaper with idea) as they saying or they just ignoring but actually i saw projects which are launch in 3-6-9 month after its IDO.

or they want smart contact which can be only basic version (just copy of some smart contact) because we have advanced tokenomics and need our own works contact on the chain that we choiced... all of it seems like "kludge" on this stage

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